WEBVTT - Gaza Hostages Are Freed | Gov. Shutdown Negotiations Stagnate

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a momentous Monday. That's the way we should call Monday's

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<v Speaker 2>momentous Mondays, because that's what they seem to be lately.

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<v Speaker 2>October thirteenth and the big news, and we're watching this

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<v Speaker 2>in real time. First of all, the hostages several hours ago,

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<v Speaker 2>all twenty hostages were released, the ones that we're still alive. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the bodies, the remains of the ones still held by

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas who are deceased. They figured it out twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>of those those will be coming over, but obviously concentrate

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<v Speaker 2>on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ones that were alive and they now are back on

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli soil. The President.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in Israel. He flew out to celebrate that. He

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<v Speaker 2>also spoke in front of the Kanesset a little while

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<v Speaker 2>ago and rightly took credit for it. He was introduced

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<v Speaker 2>by the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as the greatest president

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<v Speaker 2>that ever lived. Without his help, that is, without President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's help, this probably this would not have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's right.

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<v Speaker 2>The President was able to pull all of this together

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<v Speaker 2>because he's Donald Trump. He's Donald Trump, who happens to

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<v Speaker 2>be president. No other president, I think would do this,

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<v Speaker 2>because no other president would literally look at Hamas and say,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't come to the table, you're gonna be blown

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<v Speaker 2>to smithereens and we're going to help Israel do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That wouldn't happen. Joe Biden would never have had that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, the George Bushes. Never this president did.

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<v Speaker 2>And Hamas had to come to the table. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening is the president then spoke I don't know. He

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<v Speaker 2>was on for half an hour maybe up at the

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<v Speaker 2>stand at the Dayas in front of the Kanesset, which

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<v Speaker 2>is their parliament, and he had the teleprompters there, and

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<v Speaker 2>boy did he go off script. I mean, he came

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<v Speaker 2>up with stories about Steve Witkoff, who is the senior negotiator,

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<v Speaker 2>and what Steve did and his background and just and

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<v Speaker 2>stories talked about Jared Kushner, his son in law, who

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<v Speaker 2>was instrumental all this, and how Ivonka converted to Judaism,

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<v Speaker 2>and just talked about the seven forty seven that he

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<v Speaker 2>bought for the United States from Cutter, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it just was all over the place, and he's the

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<v Speaker 2>one that was able to pull it off. Come on, well,

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<v Speaker 2>typical Donald Trump. I mean, you talk about off script, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the only thing at this point that I

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<v Speaker 2>can really, I think, talk about a negative way about

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, because underneath it all, this guy made it happen. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said earlier, I'm going to talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>in the next segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Is how did this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did it take seven hundred and thirty six days?

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<v Speaker 2>What did Israel do? And this is not being talked

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot about. Is that Hamas basically shot itself

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<v Speaker 2>in the foot, in both feet, and the way where

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<v Speaker 2>it guessed this guest where it would all go, and

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<v Speaker 2>how they completely blew it. And I'll try to set

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<v Speaker 2>up some timeline and dive into a little bit. In

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime, the president right now is on Air Force one,

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<v Speaker 2>having left Tel Aviv maybe half an hour ago. He

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<v Speaker 2>will be landing in Cairo. It's a one hour flight

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<v Speaker 2>from Tel Aviv to Cairo, and he will I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even imagine what the hoopla is going to be as

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<v Speaker 2>he lands at Cairo International Airport and will be feted

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<v Speaker 2>like you can't believe because he is obviously he is

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<v Speaker 2>the hero here. There are twenty world leaders that are

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<v Speaker 2>in Cairo, and is a peace summit that is being convened,

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about what's going to happen in Gaza. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that the war is over and the hostage is part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. That's been done. Now comes the hard part,

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<v Speaker 2>and what is the hard part? Who is going to

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<v Speaker 2>govern Gaza and the West Bank? Because Israel's putting all

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<v Speaker 2>that together under a new Palestinian authority, actually an international

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<v Speaker 2>authority that's going to govern Gaza such until such time

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<v Speaker 2>that that can govern itself, which as far as Israel

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<v Speaker 2>is concerned with this government, the Israeli government will mean

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<v Speaker 2>the Ever, then you have will Hamas disarm itself? Will

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<v Speaker 2>it cease to be will it cease to become a

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<v Speaker 2>political force? Will the party because it's a political party

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<v Speaker 2>as well the terrorist group as well as a governing group,

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<v Speaker 2>so it hits all of those points in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>Will it disarm? Will it dismember itself? Will it do

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<v Speaker 1>any of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's happening now, just getting reports that Hamas is

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<v Speaker 2>jumping right into those areas that Israel has relinquished Israel

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<v Speaker 2>has and this is part of the ceasefire, is that

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<v Speaker 2>Israel has released about I would say sixty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza to Hamas, which is still in charge. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Israel, imagine the entire eastern part of Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that eastern part of Gaza, all of that

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<v Speaker 2>is in Israeli hands. Gaza City is not Eunice, is

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<v Speaker 2>not the big city in the south that was at

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<v Speaker 2>the point of a lot of this fighting and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of humanitarian aid not coming in. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot going on there, but Israel, pursu into the agreement,

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<v Speaker 2>still controls a lot of Gaza. Hamas now and these

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<v Speaker 2>are the reports are now is now going around and

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<v Speaker 2>executing people who they view were Israeli operatives or somehow

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<v Speaker 2>we're traders to the Palestinian cause in Gaza and Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>at this point looks like it's filling the void very

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly. And frankly, I don't think Israel cares. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to become an internal issue. All Israel

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<v Speaker 2>cares about is the threat that Hamas is to Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I want to take a break and come

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<v Speaker 2>back because I want to dive into a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and there's some underlying reasons and where Hamas blew it completely.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not just talking about the terrorist attack because

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<v Speaker 2>that worked for them. It happened exactly the way it

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to happen. As a matter of fact, there are

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<v Speaker 2>some new documents that have just come up that show

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<v Speaker 2>how successful that terrorist attack is per the plans and

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<v Speaker 2>per the hopes of Camas. But also how mann did

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<v Speaker 2>they screw the pooch on a political, international, geopolitical military matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I want to talk a little bit about how

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<v Speaker 2>all this came to be. One of them is the President,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, effectively telling Camas this either happens, it happens now,

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm going to let Israel just go right at

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<v Speaker 2>it and I'm going to give Israel all the arms

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to effectively wipe you out. It came pretty

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<v Speaker 2>close to it anyway, and also telling Natanyahu, who was

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<v Speaker 2>insisting we are not going to sit down with them

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<v Speaker 2>until they have agreed that there will be no more Hamas,

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<v Speaker 2>that they willed disarm, that was written in stone, and

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<v Speaker 2>the President told Natanyahu that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Get these deel cut you're not going to see American

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<v Speaker 2>arms anymore. Okay, both sides now come to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about some of the facts we know,

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<v Speaker 2>because as I said.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not just Israel winning.

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<v Speaker 2>This was Hamas losing, shooting itself in the foot, in

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<v Speaker 2>the head, in the stomach. We have just heard, and

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<v Speaker 2>this just came out a few days ago, that there

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<v Speaker 2>were documents that were picked up by Israeli intelligence in

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<v Speaker 2>the military written by Yaya Sinwar, who had been released

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<v Speaker 2>from Israeli prison after twenty years during one of these

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<v Speaker 2>prisoner exchanges, and he had written given instructions to the

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<v Speaker 2>terrorists to go into Israel during that October seventh attack,

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<v Speaker 2>to kill as many children, to burn as many buildings

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<v Speaker 2>as possible, not only kill Israeli soldiers who were there,

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<v Speaker 2>but also as many civilians as possible. And he did

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<v Speaker 2>it not just because he hated and we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just him who wrote this. These were instructions

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<v Speaker 2>being given by the hierarchy. And it's not just because

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<v Speaker 2>they hated Israelis and don't believe in Israel being any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a sovereign country.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't exist at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But they took the political tack, because here's what they assumed,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was part and parcel. They assumed that once

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<v Speaker 2>this attack happened, the entire Arab world would join Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>in trying to destroy Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right there in the documents.

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<v Speaker 2>The Arab world will understand that this is a fight

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<v Speaker 2>for freedom and they will join us. And they knew

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<v Speaker 2>they had the backing of his Blah. They knew they

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<v Speaker 2>had the backing of Iran. They knew they had the

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<v Speaker 2>backing of the various Isis and al Kaieda offshoots in Iraq.

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<v Speaker 2>And they knew that Israel is this one loan country

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<v Speaker 2>and if the United States weren't there, it wouldn't even exist.

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<v Speaker 2>And they thought that the whole world, the Arab world,

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be on their side. They missed it completely,

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<v Speaker 2>of course they did. First of all, Hesbelah was wiped

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<v Speaker 2>out by the Israelis. They just attacked His attacked South

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<v Speaker 2>Lesbionon and Hesbelah is no longer a force. The attack

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<v Speaker 2>on Iran, you had Israel straight out attack Iran, sending missiles,

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<v Speaker 2>which had never happened before. And then the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>this is where Trump came in and bombed facilities, nuclear facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>and so Iran now doesn't have anywhere near the power

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<v Speaker 2>that it has. So you have the two major allies

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<v Speaker 2>of Hamas have just basically disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>They have devolved.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hamas is now on its own for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole world as much as they hate Israel

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<v Speaker 2>for what it has and is doing, or not anymore

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<v Speaker 2>to the Palestinians, and there's a lot of hatred, and

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<v Speaker 2>there should be a lot of hatred because while I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe the word genocide is appropriate, I do believe

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<v Speaker 2>war crimes are appropriate and describing what Israel did. The

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<v Speaker 2>problem is Hamas missed the boat because as much as

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<v Speaker 2>the entire world, particularly the Arab world, looked at Israel

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<v Speaker 2>as the enemy or at least gave lip service to

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<v Speaker 2>the Palestinians, they hate Hamas as much as anybody does.

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<v Speaker 2>The Arab countries do not want a Hamas controlling Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>or any part of the Mid East.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a bunch of terear Risks.

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<v Speaker 2>They know it, and all of a sudden they as

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas turns to them and says, please, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>help us, you want to be on our side. Look

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<v Speaker 2>what we did this magnificent thing that we did in

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<v Speaker 2>attacking the Israelis on October seventh.

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<v Speaker 1>They Hamas just missed it completely and so the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guests, and it's the only way you can talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>The guess was wrong. Hamas didn't have a chance, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think after October seventh and what it did. And

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<v Speaker 2>then keeping the hostages, that's the other really dumb thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see the logic of taking the hostages. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree, I mean we all disagree. And the humanitarian

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<v Speaker 2>issue involved in taking civilian hostages and killing civilians because

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<v Speaker 2>they are Jewish, because they were Israeli, I can understand.

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<v Speaker 2>They're crazy ass logic. What I don't understand is treating

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<v Speaker 2>the hostages the way they did, starving the hostages, keeping

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<v Speaker 2>them in cages, doing some horrific things. In one case,

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<v Speaker 2>this was discussed over the news over the weekend. In

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<v Speaker 2>one case, they took on a group of hostages were

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<v Speaker 2>released pursuing to a couple of the ceasefires, and they

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<v Speaker 2>took a group of them and turned over to the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Cross, keeping one to see his fellow Israelis being freed,

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<v Speaker 2>and then drove him back to the cage. In the tunnel,

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<v Speaker 2>just the sheer in humanity of it. So underneath it

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<v Speaker 2>all Hamas. They blew every single chance they had. They

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<v Speaker 2>were never gonna win, but they made sure they lost.

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<v Speaker 2>And as we speak right now, I'm looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>love I've picture Air Force one is it has parked,

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<v Speaker 2>the doors opened. There are probably I don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>boya a dozen black suburbans that are out there and

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the President to come down the stairs of

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force one at Cairo where the summit will start,

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<v Speaker 2>the Gaza Summit will start.

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<v Speaker 1>And look at all those planes lined up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those are for all world leaders that have come in.

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<v Speaker 1>And nobody brings a little plane. No, they've all got

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<v Speaker 1>bigg Well did you notice did you notice the Sea five?

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<v Speaker 2>As matter of fact, they're driving right towards it right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the big Sea five or the Galaxy with the smaller

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a seven to sixty seven. Also US

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force Air Force one when the play president flies

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<v Speaker 2>because the United States of America on it, the same

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<v Speaker 2>the same paint scheme that's on the other ones. And

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<v Speaker 2>this so whenever a president travels, as you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>it's especially in this case, a whole lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>travel with him, and there's enough for rom On air

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<v Speaker 2>Force one. So here comes the other airplayed in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the seven to sixty seven filled

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<v Speaker 2>with I don't even say reporters. I think reporters are

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<v Speaker 2>on their own that one. Those would just be officials

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<v Speaker 2>and people accompanying the president. This is one big, big deal,

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<v Speaker 2>and the president will be the star of this, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>No question about it, and deserves to be.

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<v Speaker 2>They just have to keep them off this speech making

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<v Speaker 2>for forty minutes at a time. Oh, also there is

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<v Speaker 2>there were a couple of private seven forty sevens there

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<v Speaker 2>that you could see. They didn't have the markings of

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<v Speaker 2>an airline. There's some pretty rich people there in the

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<v Speaker 2>Arab world all right Now on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the coin is what's happening on this side of the

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<v Speaker 2>world is the government shut down. It's going on three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks now, started his third week, and it's no end

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<v Speaker 2>in sight. The government shutdown now collides with the US economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss paychecks Wednesday are the first miss paychecks, and billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars of government services are going to disappear, and

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<v Speaker 2>millions of workers are going to be affected, not just

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<v Speaker 2>in government, but those who supply government. Because even if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a company that sells to the government, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say janitorial services or copiers or whatever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the government obviously just make its own copiers. It buys

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<v Speaker 2>it from the local copier store. Well, all of those

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<v Speaker 2>payments stop. There ain't no money until the until Congress

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<v Speaker 2>votes itself the ability to keep running the government.

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<v Speaker 1>So where is where's this line? Why aren't they even agreeing?

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<v Speaker 2>Because now when we talk about the disparity between the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans the Democrats, this is about as clear a ligne as.

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<v Speaker 1>You can come to.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's real simple with the Republicans want in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of all this, just give us a continuing resolution

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<v Speaker 2>while we're figuring this out, while we're figuring out the budget,

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<v Speaker 2>while we're figuring out the cuts if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call them cuts, and I'll explain that in a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>to Medicaid and Obamacare subsidies. Let's just keep the government

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<v Speaker 2>running with a continuing resolution, which just kicks the can

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<v Speaker 2>down the road. And continuing resolutions happen more often than not.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no deal that has come to the table

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<v Speaker 2>where Democrats and Republicans can't agree, and so they pass

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<v Speaker 2>a continuing resolution saying, Okay, we keep everything copasetic, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't add any programs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called a clean bill.

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<v Speaker 2>A continuing resolution is completely clean bill means it does

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing but just continue the government the way it's

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<v Speaker 2>been going while we talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense, that's completely logical.

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<v Speaker 2>So why are the Democrats not going with this because

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<v Speaker 2>they always have. Now let's move to the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>and the pain of this governmental shutdown is hitting on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>day after tomorrow, the first checks don't arrive to government workers,

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<v Speaker 2>and so this shutdown is colliding with the US economy.

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<v Speaker 2>The miss paychecks, billions of dollars of government services which

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<v Speaker 2>will not be given or will not be paid for,

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<v Speaker 2>are hitting. And the president and the lawmakers in Congress

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<v Speaker 2>are completely deadlocked. The Republicans and the Democrats are deadlocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Why well, because the argument is that the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit upset about is the president's priorities? And

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<v Speaker 2>if the president, well, whatever the president's priorities are, the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican parties and the Republican legislature, the Senate and the House,

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<v Speaker 2>they are whatever the President says, they follow along. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about lap dogs. So the Democrats obviously fight that.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has to do and here's where they're both

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<v Speaker 2>right and wrong. This has to do with the cuts,

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<v Speaker 2>Medicaid expansion, and the Obama Care subsidies for people who

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<v Speaker 2>heretofore couldn't afford insurance. Several million people were put on

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<v Speaker 2>the roster of Obamacare that weren't prior to COVID. So

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<v Speaker 2>COVID comes in and the government says, okay, we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to expand Medicaid and we're going to expand the

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<v Speaker 2>subsidies for Obamacare so more people can be covered. This

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<v Speaker 2>was temporary. This sunsets this year. And here is the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>There really is no such thing as sun setting when

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about a governmental program.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, COVID hits or some massive problem occurs at work,

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<v Speaker 2>and you are given a temporary raise for six months

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<v Speaker 2>or two years, and you're told this is only good

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<v Speaker 2>for two years. So two years pass, and then your

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<v Speaker 2>boss says, okay, we're gonna go back to the previous

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<v Speaker 2>pay level. You go, wait a minute, I get this,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>To go back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's exactly what I'm asking you to do is

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<v Speaker 2>to go back. So you have the Democrats effectively saying

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<v Speaker 2>these are cuts that the Republicans are cutting these programs.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not.

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<v Speaker 2>What they're doing is not extending the cuts that took place.

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<v Speaker 1>They're allowing the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Setting cuts, the sun setting, sun setting, the sun I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>get this right, I'm so good with words. The sun

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<v Speaker 2>setting subsidies. He's Peter Piper picked a peck. The sun

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<v Speaker 2>setting tanks you very much, subsidies to sunset. And the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats are saying absolutely not so, because they're saying people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be uninsured. Millions of Americans are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be uninsured. They're not going to have the government

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<v Speaker 2>support for medical care that they have now.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Republicans are saying, hey, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was temporary, and it's a question of philosophy, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a question of what priorities are the existing government. The

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<v Speaker 2>priority is immigration defense. The Democrats are we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>get people insured, we have to have governmental programs that

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<v Speaker 2>help people. The Republicans think helping people in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States is a matter of defense, ensuring our borders and

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<v Speaker 2>social programs are not as important.

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<v Speaker 1>It's philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that being said, they are at a standstill

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<v Speaker 2>because the Democrats are saying, noe, we're drawing. The red

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<v Speaker 2>line is right here, right now, and we are not

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote for that continuing resolution to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>government alive for even a month while negotiations take place,

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<v Speaker 2>because the Democrats rightly so, are saying the Republicans will

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<v Speaker 2>never cave to this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And they won't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look what the Trump administration did with DOGE,

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<v Speaker 2>and look what they're doing with programs all over the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Look what RFK is doing with the CDC. Look what

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<v Speaker 2>is happening Department of Transportation. They are cutting, cutting, cuting, cutting,

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<v Speaker 2>cutting much less keeping programs alive that have been sunseted.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said, we're done, We're done. And so there

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<v Speaker 2>is the fight. Is there going to be some end

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<v Speaker 2>to this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? A couple of other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the well the President ordered the Pentagon to repurpose

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<v Speaker 2>research and development money to be able to make payroll

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<v Speaker 2>for members of the military. The military doesn't get paid.

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<v Speaker 2>They still have to be there, they don't get paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Millions of workers still have to go to work and

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<v Speaker 2>not get paid. Air traffic controllers can you imagine this,

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<v Speaker 2>have to work and not get a paycheck, and so

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do. Well, a lot of them call

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<v Speaker 2>in sick, they just had it. And then the argument is, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll get back pay. We always have that's been

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<v Speaker 2>that's just been the pattern of what we do when

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<v Speaker 2>their government shut downs. Well, the president is saying not

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<v Speaker 2>this time. You're not going to get back pay to

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<v Speaker 2>large segments of the workforce. Military will of course, how

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<v Speaker 2>does he say no to the military. And on top

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<v Speaker 2>of that, he has four thousand already workers who are

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<v Speaker 2>not working, have been furloughed, fired, and you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to see back pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. That gets interesting with the back pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Business because even though it was policy to give back

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<v Speaker 2>pay to workers during a shutdown, after the last massive shutdown,

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<v Speaker 2>the Congress passed a law saying it is illegal not

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<v Speaker 2>to pay furloughed employees or those who are not are

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<v Speaker 2>off the books but still have to work. And the

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<v Speaker 2>president and the White House is saying, we ain't going.

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<v Speaker 1>To pay now. The law says that the government must

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<v Speaker 1>pay back pay.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know when that was signed, it was during

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's first term.

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<v Speaker 1>He signed it, he said, he signed the bill that

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<v Speaker 1>said there must be back pay.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's saying there Isn't you go, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the law that you oh signed, there's your signature

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<v Speaker 2>right on that law.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah. The joys of this administration is when the laws

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<v Speaker 2>on your side, the laws on your side, When the

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<v Speaker 2>laws not on your side, the laws on your side.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We're done with that.

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