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Speaker 1: Everybody very excited to be here with you. Ryan Edwards,

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Speaker 2: What's up? Nate's hey, how are you? I'm I'm fantastic,

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Speaker 1: It's a football. It's a football flannel Friday. I don't

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Speaker 1: know's you're working on it, Triple F. Yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Health Hotline and bring on Broncos cornerback passer Tan.

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Speaker 2: Pat My friends. Good to catch up with you. How

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Speaker 2: are you? I'm good as well.

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Speaker 3: How y'all doing.

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Speaker 1: We're doing fantastic, very excited about this game against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: What are some things that you felt?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you major return, which we're all very excited

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Speaker 2: How did that go for you?

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Speaker 3: I went pretty well. You know, obviously I had a harness,

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Speaker 3: it showed a little bit until it just footy one hundred,

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Speaker 5: You know, winning that game, especially on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Night, and you know what I mean, there's something that

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Speaker 2: Off of for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, you look great out there, Pat, and it's pretty

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Speaker 1: They punched the ball out and I just was wondering,

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Speaker 1: Pat Obviously, you guys are taking this one game at

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Speaker 5: And make that call.

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Speaker 1: And I take those acting classes like you wide receivers

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Speaker 4: Uh, let's tie for the Children's Hospital Call a Kid

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Speaker 2: This week's question is from Miles Hi Pat. I'm Miles

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Speaker 2: and I'm a patient at Children's Hospital Colorado, and I

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Speaker 2: Very good, very good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's that's my pace, right there, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. Always always great, Pat, We really appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Safe travels. That's Las Vegas, and best of luck on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's that's Mario brother. That's good. That's really good. You

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Speaker 2: Now that the refs have it's subjected. They are there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, coming from the guy that actually like penalizes players

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Speaker 1: I'm just enforcing the rules that I'm clearly watching you break.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who say, this is a

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Speaker 1: Everybody's played close, but they win. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Would you really be like, oh, I don't know about this,

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Speaker 2: Well, you just said that it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say it doesn't matter, okay, But I said

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Speaker 1: the most important thing is to win, okay. And I'm

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Speaker 1: saying and I think any of these opponents are present

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to blow out. I agree, Okay, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. This offense has clearly not played

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Speaker 1: their best football, and hopefully they do at some point

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Speaker 1: this year. Now, I do think they have a problem

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Speaker 1: with a running game. I think Sean Payton knows that

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Speaker 1: going into January and February, they're going to need to

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Speaker 1: be able to run the rock and they. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we saw what happened last year when they kind of

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Speaker 1: didn't in the playoffs, right, So I think that is

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Speaker 1: something that needs to get worked out because if they

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Speaker 1: become one dimensional then Bo. You know, we've seen what

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Speaker 1: happens when Bog gets a little uncomfortable back there, prone

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Speaker 1: to make some mistakes, get a little skittish, able to

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Speaker 1: pocket early, and that's not good. So I think the

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Speaker 1: running game establishing that will go a long way in

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Speaker 1: allowing them to put up double digit victories and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: Depending I mean, no matter who the opponent is. What

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Speaker 1: did Sean Payton think of the Broncos performance against the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: He has a very clear message that he sends today

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Speaker 4: in the media. We'll get to that come out of

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Speaker 4: here on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Also today, coming up at five thirty, we'll have our

468
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Speaker 1: Coaches Corner breakdown of the play that you and Jake

469
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Speaker 1: did a really good job breaking down the touchdown pass

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Speaker 1: to Cortland Sudden. That'll be Sean Payton and voiced the

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Speaker 1: Moroncos Dave Logan plus your chance to win Broncos Packers tickets.

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Speaker 4: It's all coming up at five thirty today. We'll right

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Speaker 4: back on k W riffing George Pickens last night, and

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Speaker 4: George Pickens responded.

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Speaker 1: Although he has Sens deleted his Instagram post too late,

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Speaker 1: but everybody saw it first, so it's not it's not

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Speaker 1: great till heads it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I'll never understand that. Just don't hit send.

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Speaker 2: Just don't hit send. But he said he hit some

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Speaker 2: choice words for Richard Sherman.

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Speaker 5: He did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he basically called him fraud. Oh shit, Richard Sherban.

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Speaker 4: He's like, you're you're basically nothing without the legion to boo,

484
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Speaker 4: You're basically nothing without the rest of the players around.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, George.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, we'll hear Sherman going off on George Pickens and

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Speaker 4: then the response from Pickens coming up in a little

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Speaker 4: bit five six six nights zeros or kaway Comma spirit

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Speaker 4: I'll textall on again in two hours from now. An

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Speaker 4: opportunity to listen to our coach's corner Voice, the Broncos

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Speaker 4: Dave Logan and head coach On Payton breaking down a

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Speaker 4: play from last week, plus an opportunity to win Broncos

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Speaker 4: Packers tickets. You're not gonna want to miss that. We'll

494
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Speaker 4: go through a game a lot of good games this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Get a championship Saturday tomorrow, Yeah, and then of course

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, Boy, there's some great great You got Texans, Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: You've got the Jaguars and Colts, Bears, Packers. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean even I think even Bengals Bills has got some

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Speaker 1: interesting playoff and the.

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Speaker 2: Bills, I'm sorry. The Bengals are kind of in play.

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Speaker 4: Right now, only a couple games out wild. It is

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Speaker 4: weird they missed the quarterback for the entire season. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's an only division.

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Speaker 2: That you could do this in because old Man Rounders

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Speaker 2: is falling apart of the seams. Man Lamar isn't playing

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Speaker 2: great either. Yeah, but did you see old Man Rounders

507
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Speaker 2: with a bloody nose. He just looked like he just

508
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Speaker 2: stumbled out of a van down by the river. It

509
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Speaker 2: was like, why did I come back? Why am I here?

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Speaker 2: The memes were great. The look on his face.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I kept hearing hello darkness, my old friend as

512
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Speaker 4: he's sitting on the sideline like looking out onto the field.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he should have walked away after winning.

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Speaker 2: The MVP after the COVID year.

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Speaker 1: I think that could that would have been his ultimate

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Speaker 1: like because he's all about like how the man trying

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Speaker 1: to keep him down in the NFL tried to stop

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Speaker 1: him from, you know, being an autonomous, freethinking individual, and

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Speaker 1: if he really wanted to prove that point, he should

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Speaker 1: have walked away. Then he hasn't really accomplished much since then,

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Speaker 1: and it's only been a comedy of errors. And now

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Speaker 1: he's just like, obviously he's not going to affect his

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Speaker 1: legend or his legacy, if you will. He's still going

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Speaker 1: to go to the Hall of Fame, first ballot. Everyone

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Speaker 1: loves Aaron Rodgers. Do we all love Okay?

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Speaker 2: I think we respect his game, Yeah, I oways say

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Speaker 2: that that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that you know, the last three

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Speaker 1: years haven't done him any favors. No, not really, not

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Speaker 1: from a public persona standpoint. And then of course on

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Speaker 1: the field play hasn't been great. Well, he wears his

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Speaker 1: wedding ring on the field, which is interesting because most

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Speaker 1: guys just take it off and leave it in your locker,

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Speaker 1: right you're on the it's a football game. But nobody

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Speaker 1: on his team has ever met his wife, and no

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Speaker 1: one knows who his wife is. It's such a strange thing.

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Speaker 1: But he is married, he says he is, but he

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Speaker 1: says she's a private person, his imaginary wife. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to be known that is Nate Jackson's sake, imaginary wife.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I wouldn't it be weird?

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Speaker 1: Your leader was like everyone on the like everyone wants

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to like invite him over or like hang out,

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Speaker 1: let's meet your wife, Like we're all on a team together,

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Speaker 1: can we can we get.

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Speaker 2: To know each other here?

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Speaker 1: I just don't imagine no one, no one on the

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Speaker 1: Broncos having ever met bo Nix's wife.

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Speaker 2: The school district, she's in a different school. That explains it. Yeah, there,

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Speaker 2: there you go.

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Speaker 5: That explains it.

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Speaker 2: No, I see your points. I do see your point.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, the audio all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: gets back to be out in Pittsburgh and there like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Denver, they're they're saying worse about him. There, I

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Speaker 2: guarantee they are, so, Sean Peyton, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Zach Stevens, the n v r OS does a great

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Speaker 1: job asked this question of Sean saying, how.

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Speaker 2: Much is game the game plan for a team the

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Speaker 2: second time around?

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Speaker 4: How much different can it be, especially when you think

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Speaker 4: in terms of how relatively close these two games were,

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Speaker 4: you know, so a few weeks apart.

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Speaker 2: But here's what Sean had to say to that question.

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Speaker 5: No, there is a lot.

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Speaker 6: I felt like, man, I said this already offensively, our

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Speaker 6: plan the last time was you know, it was awful.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think the difference is with Pete is

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Speaker 6: a new head coach.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you know, you had a new.

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Speaker 6: Offense, and then they've made a change, so they'll be

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Speaker 6: some things they want to do differently.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll want to run the ball more.

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Speaker 6: And then they've done a good job at times defensively,

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Speaker 6: and you know, they put us in a pickle last time.

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Speaker 2: And so I think the film this year is important.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes last year's the film this year's, I would say,

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Speaker 6: is important.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I guess I appreciated a little bit of

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Speaker 4: the transparency there because he said the planned was awful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he had said that offensively.

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Speaker 1: They didn't play great, and you remember after the game

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Speaker 1: he looked as though they lost that game.

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Speaker 2: They won ten to seven, but he's very unhappy National TV.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, your your prize quarterback had his worst

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Speaker 4: game he still won.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he had a very bad game in prime

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Speaker 1: time and they didn't play well. He looked like they

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Speaker 1: had lost coming off that game, and here he is

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Speaker 1: coming back to a sort of reliving it. But this

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Speaker 1: is why for all the people out there keep saying

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Speaker 1: trap game, and you know, maybe they'll overlooked it, They're

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Speaker 1: not overlooking the Raiders, not after that offensive performance. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee Sean has been on these guys in a most

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Speaker 1: redemptive state.

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Speaker 2: We have a chance of redemption, Fellaws. Then we win.

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Speaker 2: We won, but we could have won by more.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I think there's an understanding in that in that building

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Speaker 1: that if you if you are going to win all

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Speaker 1: these games by one, by two, or by three, one

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Speaker 1: mistake can lose it for you. And so they he

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Speaker 1: if he is getting to know this team and understanding

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Speaker 1: who they are and who they are is taking it

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Speaker 1: down to the wire and finding a way to win,

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Speaker 1: will then shoot man like you have no margin for

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Speaker 1: error there, and so we better figure it out, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you better dot your j's and cross your exes,

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Speaker 1: you know, and make sure that you're preparing the right

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Speaker 1: way and doing all the film study and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I think that.

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Speaker 1: To me, when I hear that he says that the

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Speaker 1: plan was awful, that raises my eyebrow because only one eyebrow,

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Speaker 1: Because why is it like the plans should be In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, ninety percent of what you do should but

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Speaker 1: what you always do, Okay, it's just what.

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Speaker 2: We do well.

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Speaker 1: We run the ball, we'd run play action, We do

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Speaker 1: quick passes to our guys and that opens things up

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Speaker 1: in the second half.

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Speaker 2: We take advantage of the middle of field.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be like a complicated process where it's like

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Speaker 1: we're gonna swing at this plan and it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: something that's either gonna hit or it's gonna miss. Because

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Speaker 1: to me, when you when I hear that the plan

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Speaker 1: was awful, it means it was all about the plan

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't about the players. Because the players know

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Speaker 1: how to play football, they know how to make plays,

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Speaker 1: so go put them in a position to go do that.

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Speaker 2: It's not that hard to do that in a way

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Speaker 2: in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly they were caught by surprise by some

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Speaker 1: of the things the Raiders did defensively. Yeah, how surprising

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Speaker 1: could defenses really be? Yeah, we're either gonna go his

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Speaker 1: zone or you're gonna go and man, Well, here's what

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Speaker 1: Joe Lamartin said actually on that very topic.

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Speaker 7: I think we got behind the sticks a lot with penalties.

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Speaker 7: You know, they you know, played the run real well,

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Speaker 7: gave us some different looks that we weren't that we

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Speaker 7: hadn't seen before. They kind of knock this tough schedule

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Speaker 7: a little bit, but I mean you said it, they're Uh.

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Speaker 7: I think I got a lot of respect for you know,

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Speaker 7: the defensive coordinator. He's always done a really good job

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Speaker 7: and he's got him playing well and uh, and we

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Speaker 7: told the guys don't get fooled by the record.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is a good defense.

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Speaker 7: And I think Crosby is the most disruptive defensive player

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. You know, he always is a tough

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Speaker 7: out when you play him, and uh, you know you're

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Speaker 7: gonna get his best effort every game, every play, and

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Speaker 7: he causes a lot of problems. And they've got you know,

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Speaker 7: a lot of other good players, and they're coached well,

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Speaker 7: and they got a good scheme and they've been playing

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Speaker 7: well all year. And obviously he doesn't show on the record,

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Speaker 7: but defensively.

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Speaker 5: This is a good team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of things. You got to say.

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Speaker 2: I understand like a lot of things, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: And actually, of the two sides of the.

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Speaker 1: Ball, I'd say the Raiders defense is performing at a

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Speaker 1: better level than the offenses.

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00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty easy thing to say.

662
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, but the thing that he said there that

663
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: really jumped out to me was that they threw some

664
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: things that that we didn't we hadn't seen before. And

665
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: maybe that's a part of it being a short So

666
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: if you throw that all together like in a big

667
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: gumbo pot, right, you think about it in terms of

668
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: a bad plan, poor execution, and you're seeing things that

669
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 4: you hadn't scouted or you hadn't prepared for. Well, then

670
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: that's why you have a ten to seven game at home. Yeah,

671
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: you got to learn from that, and I think they have.

672
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: The last two games, the Chiefs and the Washington Commanders

673
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: are both in really good games.

674
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: They played great offensively.

675
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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think that you make a big

676
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: mistake when you think you know what your opponent is

677
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: going to do and you prepare as if you do.

678
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: That's why it's kind of hard when you do it

679
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: the way Sean Payton does with here's what I'm coming

680
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: up with this week based on what I've seen on

681
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: film and what I think they're gonna do, and this

682
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: thing I saw them do, and here's how we want

683
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: to take advantage of that that.

684
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: Can bite you.

685
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: And I think that has in the Broncos pretty frequently,

686
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: and I think probably that sort of philosophy is responsible

687
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: for the slow start that the Broncos have had in

688
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: a lot of games. Here's what we you think is

689
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: gonna work, and then it doesn't work, And so what

690
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: happens in the fourth quarter? Take off the rains, go

691
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: play ball. We're gonna call some basic stuff. Go make plays.

692
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: Guess what they do? They make plays.

693
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: When you take the reins off, you call some basic

694
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: stuff where there's answers for everything on this one play.

695
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: The school I thought I come from when when it

696
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: when you call an offensive play is no matter what

697
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: they do, we have an answer for it.

698
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: If they do.

699
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: If they if they're in man, we go here. Or

700
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: you have a choice between these guys. If they're in zone,

701
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: we want to go here. If it's two deep, we

702
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: go here. If it's three deep, we go here. If

703
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: they bliss, you go here like there is an answer

704
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: for everything. And so to be caught off guard to

705
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: a point where you don't have answers to me means

706
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: that there's too much complicated sort of gamesmanship happening, and

707
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: it takes a half or so to shake that off.

708
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: So I don't want if I'm a player, I don't

709
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: want to do that.

710
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to go through this whole week where

711
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: we think they're gonna do this thing and we're prepared,

712
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: because every once in.

713
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: A while it does work. Yeah, great play call, awesome, that.

714
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: Was wide open, but it doesn't allow your players to

715
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: go pin their ears back and just know what to expect.

716
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: Number one, play with confidence, play with pace, and go attack.

717
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: And I think the Broncos have a better team with

718
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: better players who are playing better, and so when you

719
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: are on that side of it, then I think it's

720
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: a mistake over game plan.

721
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: The Broncos should beat up on the Raiders based on.

722
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: I think their skill set and just the mojo that

723
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: they have going right now right, And so we're hoping

724
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: for a less awful game plan this time.

725
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: I do want to ask you, we'll come back and

726
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: get to this here and give me out the Richard

727
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 4: Sherman sound, I do want to ask you if you've

728
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: ever been a part of a game or a game

729
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: plan where you felt like the plan was bad, we

730
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: played bad and just like it.

731
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: Was all bad. Yeah, yeah, okay, certainly we'll.

732
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: Get to that.

733
00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: Coming up, we're going to check in with Hondo Carpenter.

734
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: Hondo Carpenter is gonna help us preview the Raiders game,

735
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: and that's coming up at four, sorry, five o'clock tonight.

736
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: We'll do a little pick them there in the four

737
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: o'clock hour as well, so we all sort.

738
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: Of fun stuff.

739
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: And again coming up at after five point thirty, our

740
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: coach's Corner Voice the Broncos, Dave Logan sits down with

741
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: head coach Sean Payton. They breakdown to play plus your

742
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: chance to win Broncos Packers tickets. So I asked you

743
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: a question as we're heading to break Nate Nate Jackson

744
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 4: and Studio today about as we heard Sean Payton saying

745
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: we had a bad plan versus the raiderscuse had a

746
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: bad plan. And maybe that's more retrospect, right, I mean,

747
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: say you don't ever go into a game with thinking,

748
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think this is a good plan

749
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: unless for you as a player. Did that ever happen

750
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: where you were? Like, you know, I see what the

751
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: coaches are trying to do, but I just don't know if.

752
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: This is gonna work. Oh yeah, and I was right?

753
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: Did you no?

754
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: No?

755
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: Did you just say things or did you just come

756
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: You're not gonna say it? Hey, coach, I don't think

757
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: that's gonna work.

758
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: Man.

759
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Sorry, No, we don't talk, We don't input, We don't

760
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: tell you how we feel. We sit there and take,

761
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, the lesson and then try to implement it.

762
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a collaborative thing there. That's a

763
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: good point.

764
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: They don't ask us what we think they should, though

765
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: they should, you're right, but they don't. You know, you

766
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: would think that the best in the world at this

767
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: thing might have a few ideas as to how it

768
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: might work. But instead the dudes who were never very

769
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: good at it now I'm kidding, come up with a

770
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: plan and then we just do it right. Of course,

771
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: they're very intelligent football men. Sean Payton is among the

772
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: most intelligent of football men. However, doesn't mean he always

773
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: gets it right. And you know, Mike Shanahan didn't always

774
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: get it right. And I remember the very first game

775
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: of the season against the Saint Louis Rams. At the time,

776
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: I think this was two thousand and six. We had

777
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: a very complicated plan. It was you know, it happens

778
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: a lot with the first game of the season because

779
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: the coaches, you know, it's the first meaningful game in

780
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: a long time, and so they want to throw everything

781
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: in there. And the problems have had this problem in

782
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: the opening game, even in the Sean Payton era. Right,

783
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: looking a little weird offensively, it's because you want to try.

784
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: All this stuff.

785
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: And we had a plan that was pretty complicated, and

786
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: there were a lot of checks in this plan. There

787
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: were a lot of like, check with me, and if

788
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: they do this, we're going to change a lot of

789
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: audibles at the line of scrimmage. And it was very

790
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: loud there, and so you're working with crowd noise and

791
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: you've got to also be hearing the quarterback make these changes.

792
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: And it was just we looked all out of sorts

793
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: and it just didn't click. And for us, we knew

794
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: what we were good at running the football, play action passes,

795
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: quick pass game work in the middle of the field.

796
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: That's what we were good at and we steered away

797
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: from that a little bit, you know.

798
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm a proponent of doing what your

799
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: guys do well and not like trying to be all clever,

800
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: because especially with a team like the Raiders who was

801
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: energetically like leaking, right they are, they want the season

802
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: already to be over, that's right. Don't remind them that

803
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: this is a rivalry. Don't remind them that they used

804
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: to be you know, that this can be competitive. Pounce

805
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: on them, rip them to shreds.

806
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: And how do you do that?

807
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: You play fast, you play aggressive, you were the aggressor.

808
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: You go out and punch them in the mouth. You

809
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: don't do something cute right off the bat, like a

810
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: triple pass to start the game or a surprise on side.

811
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: You can't do that anymore. Yeah, but what if the

812
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: triple pass works?

813
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: Well?

814
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Ah, how smarter unil even the Yeah, no, we like

815
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: you know these style points thing. The Broncos offense wants

816
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: to feel what it feels like to drive down on

817
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: the first drive, score touchdown, drive down on the second drive,

818
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: score touchdown. What was that game where they scored like,

819
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, four touchdowns in the first half? Was that

820
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: the Cowboys might have been the Cowboys game something like that.

821
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that was like the only time this season

822
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: that's like everything in the first.

823
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: Half has worked. That's right.

824
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Cincinnati they got off to a relatively hot

825
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: start too, right, right, right, But what we want to

826
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: see and what they want to see is does everything

827
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: work now? We're finding ways to win and all that.

828
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: But but the offense would just feel really nice to

829
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: go into the locker room after halftime.

830
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Up twenty four to zero. Yes, you know what I mean?

831
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: And uh, And to me, that doesn't happen because the

832
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: game plan is good. It happens because you guys are

833
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: ready to play and they're not. And in Vegas they're

834
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: not going to be ready to play. It's Vegas.

835
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: They're at the casinos all night.

836
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 5: Now.

837
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm kidding where DoD the Broncos stay. Did they stay

838
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: on the strip? I think they're staying like Green Valley Ranch.

839
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

840
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: I would say, I don't know if they're like the

841
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: Politan right, like MGM Grand or something like that, Like

842
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I ever say it's win.

843
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't think I know.

844
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's list of seventeen things that went wrong with

845
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: the with their trip to San Francisco for the preseason

846
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: be a lot longer they stayed at like the Venetian

847
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: be fun though