1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Well, the good thing about getting a really nasty cold 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: at this time of year is maybe I'll be able 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: to get through the winter. WHOA, I've gotten hit with something. 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: I hope none of you have had anything like this. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: But the last couple of days have been stressful, I 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: mean really stressful. Just my whole body seems to be aching. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: And I've finally got some medication, so I think I'm 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: going to be okay. But I would just apologize and 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: ask any of you who think I sound quite differently tonight, 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: you're correct, I do. 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: I can hear it in my head, simple as that. 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: My name is Dan Ray. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: I'm the host of Night's Side Monday through Friday night 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: right here on WBZ ten thirty Am in Boston, a legendary, 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: legendary radio station here in Boston. As I think many 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: of you who grew up with WBZ, the radio station 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: of Dave Maynard. 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: And Carl Dessous and. 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: Gary LaPier and Gil Santo's and just as it's a great, 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: great station with a great history going back to when 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: the first one of the year in nineteen twenty one. 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: So with all of that, just in case you're not, 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: you're perhaps weren't a weir of some of that history. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: We're going to talk with four individuals and the first guest, 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: his name is Vincent Straugis. I hope I've got Vincent's 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: name correctly. 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: Vincent. 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, go ahead and tell me, go right ahead. 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: That's my pleasure. So we're talking about some music history. 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: Doesn't quite go back as far as WPZ, but it 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: takes us back to the mid seventies through the eighties, 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: Boston at the forefront of producing some of the country's 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: greatest bands in music. 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm sure you know those bands off. 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: The top of your head, and I'll bet you if 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: you've just bounce a few, a lot of people's memories 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: are going to be be called to mind. 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 5: The film's called Life on the Other Planet, and it's 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 5: a tripped from late mid to late seventies to the 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 5: mid to late eighties, and it features bands like The Atlantics, 43 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 5: the Stompers, the Real Kids, the Nervous Eaters, Robin Lane, 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 5: and the Chartbusters. There's so many to list, I won't 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: list them all, but those are some of the big names. 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 5: The neighborhoods and so on, the only the only problem 47 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 5: with it all was there were so many bands at 48 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: that time you couldn't hit them all in the film. 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: So what about Stephen Tyler's band? 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 5: Well, they were they they So this this was more 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: of a local scene, the local scene that came after 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 5: a lot of the groups like Aerosmith and Jay Giles 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 5: established this this road and there wasn't really a Boston sound, 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: per Sae. I mean Aerosmith, Jay Giles, great rock and 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 5: roll bands, but this local sound which kind of came 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 5: in on the heels of punk rock in the seventy 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 5: four seventy five era and and morphed into like a 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 5: new wave sound which was at that time. But you know, 59 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: it created its own sound with with groups like, like 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 5: I said, Nervous Eaters, the Neighborhoods and oh. 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Here's the d Let me run this one by you. 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: This is a band I'm sure you are very well 63 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: aware of. Saw them one night at the Channel just 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: really blew me away. 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: Girls Night Out there in the film too, DD Stewart 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: and Girls Night Out fantastic band. And yes it's uh 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: and there are a lot of the local bands that 68 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 5: had females in it. Were the Bristols and the Girls 69 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 5: Night Out and again Robin Lane and the Sharbusters, who 70 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: really kind of paved the way for a lot of 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 5: women bands back then. 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: So you've made a movie, you're the I assume you 73 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: you're the producer of the. 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: Movie, producer director. Yes, how tough was it? 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: How tough was it to make a movie and find 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: a video of these bands? I mean, in those days, 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: everything probably was on different type of digital or maybe 78 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: it was just on videotape. 79 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: Maybe he was on film. 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: That VHS and I mean, and it was far inview 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 5: between because nobody had a camera, nobody had a phone 82 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 5: to be able to tape a concert, and so there 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 5: was a lot of footage that was at teamed through. 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: Harvard had a collection called the Larready Freedman Collection. Uh 85 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 5: and Larti was a cameraman back then who went to 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 5: different nightclubs and shot a lot of these bands. And 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 5: fortunately there's there's collections of them, but they're they're far 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 5: and few between, and we have been a bit in 89 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: our phone and a lot of the archival footage that 90 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 5: tells the story of Boston at the time was was 91 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 5: obtained through WGV and S Archives, who was fantastic working 92 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 5: with on the film. So a lot of great cool stuff. 93 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 5: And I want to say that the film is about 94 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: the music. But you know, when I was sitting down 95 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 5: to edit this film, one of the hardest things to 96 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 5: do was I did we want to make it a 97 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 5: film where we interviewed an artist and then saw a 98 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 5: clip of their music and then just keep going like that. 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 5: When you step back from it all, the real star 100 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: of the film is Boston back in the seventies and eighties, 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 5: the culture of the time and things that are long 102 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: gone from here. And that's that's what it's about. 103 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: I'll bet you your film had kind of a gritty 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: feel to it because that was Boston. 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: Boston. 106 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And we have we have a great local 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 5: historian who fills from the gaps of the history of 108 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 5: Boston and that talks about talks about the times and 109 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 5: how Boston was was ranked pretty low as a city 110 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: back then, and which is surprising because now it's it's not. 111 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 5: It's a fabulous city, always has been, but it did 112 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 5: have a lot of grit back then that doesn't happen anymore. 113 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: Well, you know, you had a lot of crime back 114 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: in the late sixties, you had the Strangler, Albert DeSalvo, 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: you know, Whitey Bulger and his. 116 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: Group was n was running around. 117 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: Real estate prices in the Back Bay and Beacon Hill 118 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: were nothing compared to what they are today. 119 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, and you had. 120 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: The combat zone, you had, you had places that don't 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 5: exist anymore. 122 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 4: And did you tell a young person about this stuff? 123 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: They think you're you know, making it up. 124 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 6: Well, the Rat Sclar Rat Skadies and Kenmo Square and 125 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 6: girls rather the channel over by by the postal station. 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: So yeah, looking forward. 127 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're running this on the sixtieth of October, 128 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: which is. 129 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: It's actually the twenty fourth of October. 130 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: Why is my why does my does my my specs here? 131 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: Have you changed? That's okay, I had this, Okay, now. 132 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: It's it's yeah, it's on the twenty fourth of October, okay, 133 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: and yeah it's uh it's the Nervous Eaters are actual 134 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 5: playing that event. So they've been around for forty years. 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 5: They're coming coming to play the concert and the film 136 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: will be shown after that. So it should be a 137 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: fun night for everybody, and it's it's a great time 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 5: to reminisce and just you know, for young people to 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: learn a little bit about the history of Boston music. 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: And you are doing this is the Boston Prepare Boston 141 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: premiere on Friday night, October twenty correct. 142 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: I don't know why not said the sixteenth. 143 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 5: No, No, there's there's a screening, but it's it's just 144 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 5: it's a private screening. 145 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, we don't okay, So this is this also 146 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: at the Regent Theater in Arlington. 147 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: It's at the Arlington Region Theater on October twenty fourth. 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: Yes, correct, that's all we need. Then we got this 149 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: thing covered. That should it should be a good night 150 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: for you and Vincent Stragus. Thanks very much for doing 151 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: stuff like this, frankly, because I think what happens is 152 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: there's some great times and people should remember the great times. 153 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: You know, Austin has always been there's a great city, 154 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: and that was the era of Kevin White was the 155 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: mayor in the seventies, in the eighties seven. 156 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: He actually makes an appearance in the film briefly. 157 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised, all right. Thanks, thank 158 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: you so much, Vincent. I enjoyed our conversation. 159 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: Thank you very much for having me on. I appreciate it. 160 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: You bet you it. 161 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Sorry about my voice and my cold. It's one of 162 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: these things where I cough and I'm remote, so I 163 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: can't wave it rob and say yeah, roll kill my 164 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: mic So. 165 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: I hear you man, be well, well I'll get well. 166 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: Thanks. 167 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: Vincent Talks. 168 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: Okay, when we come back, when I talk with Betty 169 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: Lynn Fisher. She's a consumer news reporter with USA Today. 170 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about some uncomfortable conversations that you 171 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: might find yourself in and how to extricate yourself from 172 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: those uncomfortable conversations. Back on night Side right after this. 173 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm done you easy, 174 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: Boston's News Radio. 175 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: All right, I want to introduce Betty Lynn Fisher. Betty 176 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: Lynn Fisher, Welcome to night So you're a consumer news 177 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: reporter for USA Today, as I understand. 178 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 7: It, correct, Yes, yes, thank you for having me. 179 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: Very welcome. 180 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if this is the only circumstance, 181 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: but well, we're going to talk about how you deal 182 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: with an uncomfortable situation or an uncomfortable conversation. 183 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: Uh. 184 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: And the example that I'm giving that I've been given 185 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: here is, you know, you go out with friends, maybe 186 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: maybe it's a group of girlfriends, a group of guy friends, whatever, 187 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: and you don't order much, maybe you have one glass 188 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: of wine. But other people decide, well, this would be 189 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: a good opportunity to have dinner and a couple of 190 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: a couple of desserts. And when it comes time for 191 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: the bill, someone says, well, why don't we just split 192 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: it evily? And you're thinking, Okay, this bill's gonna be 193 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: like four hundred dollars and I had one glass of 194 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: wine four hundred times five, but divided by five, that's 195 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: a very expensive bottle of a very expensive glass of wine. 196 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: Explain to you, to us how someone like yourself would 197 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: extricate yourself from that situation without causing a lot of 198 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: angst and gnashing of teeth amongst your friends. 199 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 5: Yeah. 200 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 7: So I wrote a story as part of my series 201 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 7: called Uncomfortable Conversations about Money, and it was about splitting 202 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 7: the bill. I actually used two examples very similar to 203 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 7: what you explained. One was Alan Klensky and his wife Sandy, 204 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 7: and they were actually still kind of seizing about this 205 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 7: twenty years later. They were explaining something that happened twenty 206 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 7: years ago that they were young at the time. They 207 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 7: went out with two other couples, and they didn't note 208 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 7: the other couples very well. But the other couples decided 209 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 7: to order duck. It was the most expensive thing on 210 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 7: the kosher item, and of course when it came time 211 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 7: to pay the bill, they're like, let's split it three ways, 212 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 7: and you know, the Kolinskis were just not sure what 213 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 7: to do. They didn't want to be awkward, they didn't 214 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 7: want to seem cheap, and so you know, they went 215 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 7: ahead and did it, but they it just left a 216 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 7: bad taste in their mouth. They to this day called 217 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 7: the other couples mister and missus Duck. But their advice is, 218 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 7: they say, you know, you need to you need to 219 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 7: communicate with the people who have invited you, and if 220 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 7: you're on a type budget, you need to don't be 221 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 7: afraid to say it. Too many times. People are, you know, 222 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 7: kind of afraid to say like, oh, you know, that's 223 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 7: that's not something I can afford, or you know that's 224 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 7: not that's not what I planned for, it's not in 225 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 7: my budget. 226 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: Just just to make it reallier, I'm curious, what was 227 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: the bill? Since you wrote about this, what was the bill? 228 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 7: You know, they actually didn't tell me. They didn't tell 229 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 7: me the amount, and either didn't remember because it was 230 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 7: twenty years earlier. But I have another example, which was 231 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 7: a single woman who went out with another single friend 232 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 7: and a couple and they all ordered, and exactly like 233 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 7: you said before, the other couple ordered a ton of 234 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 7: food to share. The husband ordered its on entree. He 235 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 7: ordered a steak, and the woman was like, you know, 236 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 7: I she didn't really like much of what was being ordered, 237 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 7: but she figured she'd find something to pick at. And 238 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 7: of course, when when the when the bill comes up, 239 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 7: the husband says to the server, let's split it three ways, 240 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 7: and he included him and his wife as one pair. 241 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 7: Oh and the one of two singles as singles, sore 242 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 7: four people three ways, and that came to two hundred 243 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 7: and thirty eight dollars each. 244 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: And the woman said, how. 245 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: Much too, fifty eight a piece. 246 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 7: To fifty eight apiece. 247 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 2: And okay, I'm doing some quick math here, Okay, I'm 248 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: a quick math guy. Two fifty eight willun will round 249 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: down two fifty two fifty two fifty that's seven point 250 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: fifty okay. 251 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 252 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: First, first of all, under any circumstances, the husband and 253 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: wife who represented two of the people at the table 254 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: should have picked up fifty percent of the bill. So 255 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: if it was seven fifty, they should have picked that 256 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: three seventy five. Now we can get into what they 257 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: had and all of that, But why do people do that? 258 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, she said, she said, She said that 259 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 7: didn't seem fair at all. I kept my paid my 260 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 7: portion and I've been stewing over it ever since. And 261 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 7: she said, should I have said something? And now she 262 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 7: wishes she had, but they were good friends and she 263 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 7: didn't want to rock the boat. 264 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: Are they still good friends? 265 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 8: I who knows? 266 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: Right? 267 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 7: So I talked. I talked to Elaine Swann, who is 268 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 7: an etiquette coach and founder of the Swan School of Protocol, 269 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 7: and she said, you know, you've got to embrace the 270 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 7: awkward that really, you know, these these awkward situations just 271 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 7: just turn into something that you do about for twenty years, right, 272 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 7: You're you're still telling that same story and wishing that 273 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 7: you had done something different. And you know, her suggestion 274 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 7: is to do it early. Before you accept the invitation 275 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 7: to go out to eat, look at the menu, see 276 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 7: if it's something you can you can afford, and ask 277 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 7: if people be splitting the bill or address it as 278 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 7: many as you sit down the meal, she says, Well, 279 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 7: you know. 280 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: Going out to eat is always sort of an adventure, 281 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: and sometimes when you're going to a restaurant for the 282 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: first time, you just don't know what's going to happen. 283 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: And my wife and I went to a restaurant a 284 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and the food was great, but 285 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: the place was so packed. I mean you couldn't hear 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: yourself think. And there was no carpeting in the restaurant, 287 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, people there were a lot of people too, 288 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: I mean like a hundred people in a very small restaurant, 289 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: and there was a bar that was crowded and everybody's 290 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: It just was unpleasant. And the owner, you know, came 291 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: over and how'd you like the food? They said, the 292 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: food was great, blah blah blah, but uh, you got 293 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: to do something. You got to get some sort of 294 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: insulation for the sound here, because it was you know, 295 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: it ruined the meal. If we had been smart, and 296 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: I should have said, you know, look, why don't we 297 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: get up and just leave because you can't even have 298 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: a conversation. And then people who are at a table 299 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: and this has happened a couple of times. People who 300 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: are at a table, it's like, I don't know if 301 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: they're drunk, but every other word, it's like they're yelling 302 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: across the table and you want to say to them, 303 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: you know, there's other people here who are looking to 304 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: have a quiet conversation, but it's like these goofballs patriots 305 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: a Patriots one, and you know you want you just 306 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: want to go over and whack the guy outside the 307 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: head and say, knucklehead. You know, the ignorance of people, Well, 308 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't astound to me anymore, I guess. You know, 309 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever addressed those those sort 310 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: of conundrums. You know, what do you do? 311 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: You want? 312 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: You know, you're either you're going to sit there and 313 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: say nothing and not even able to have a conversation. 314 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: You know, you glare over it a couple of times, 315 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: and you hope that somebody realizes that they're looking. 316 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: But I don't care. They just don't care. 317 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 7: Maybe you may, maybe you can bring it up to 318 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 7: the you know, the waiter or the waitress maybe and 319 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 7: see if they could say something too. 320 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what's funny that happened One time 321 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: we were in a very expensive restaurant, very expensive restaurant, 322 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: and we were in a small room and there was 323 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: I was with two people and myself, and there was 324 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: about five or six people pretty close. But they were 325 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: that they were just incredible. So I actually asked the waiter. 326 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: I said, I said, could you ask them just to 327 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: keep it a little bit on the d lo? And 328 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: he said, oh no, we couldn't do that. So I said, okay, Finn, 329 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: do you have another you know, table somewhere else? Oh no, 330 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: We're booked up till nine o'clock. Said thanks very much. 331 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: We got up and walked out, and I felt so liberated, 332 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I felt, well, you know, 333 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to sit there because dinner at this 334 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: restaurant would have been probably for three six hundred dollars. 335 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: I just felt liberated by it. 336 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: You know, you you you have to. 337 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: At some point draw a line. How can people get 338 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: your Obviously you're in USA today. Is there a book 339 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: that you happen to have put together that you'd like 340 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: to reform? 341 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 7: My listeners to No, no, but they can they can 342 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 7: take a look at you know, USA today dot com 343 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 7: slash money for stories by myself and others on the Money, 344 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 7: Tech and Travel team. 345 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: Oh that's great, well, Betty Lynn Fisher, thank you very much. 346 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: We'll be looking for your for your reports. The great 347 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: thing about USA today is wherever you happen to be 348 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: in America, it's in every hotel in America. And it's great. 349 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: For it's it's great. It's a great newspaper. It's a 350 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: great newspaper in my opinion. It gives you everything you 351 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: need when you're on the road. And please, good luck, 352 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: keep working at it. Okay, thank you so much. 353 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: Thanks, thank pleasure. 354 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: All Right, there has been some developments in the Middle East, 355 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: and so we're going to take the CBS special report 356 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour. Again, very hopeful. President 357 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 2: Trump has made a statement on Trump's social today and 358 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: that here's here's a special report from CBS News. 359 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio. 360 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: All right, want to welcome doctor Jonathan Thorpe. He's a 361 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: doctor of a business administration, not a medical doctor. But 362 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: he's a relationship expert in the CEO of Quantum Connections. 363 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: It's almost illiterative. A firm that helps individuals and organizations 364 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: find connection in a disconnected world. However, he has produced 365 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: for us, for our consideration, for your consideration, a very 366 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: interesting statistic. First of all, doctor Thorpe, welcome to Nightside 367 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: for having me. 368 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: One in five Americans. 369 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: This is one in five of the people who live 370 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: on U stream, one in five of the people who 371 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: you work with. One in five of the people who 372 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: whatever you do you do with, believe that they can 373 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: find real romance, that it's possible to find real romance 374 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: with artificial intelligent chat bots. 375 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: Are you The only question I guess is are you 376 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: kidding me? I don't know what it said. 377 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 9: It's funny, and I would almost say, you know, you 378 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 9: can't be surprised today with anything related to AI. AI 379 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 9: is doing some amazing things, even this, the suggestion that 380 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 9: people can find real romance or what they feel is 381 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 9: real with a computer. I mean, if you look at it, 382 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 9: there've been over two hundred million downloads of these AI 383 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 9: companions and chatbots. It's a two hundred million dollars a 384 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 9: year industry. And what people are doing dan as they're 385 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 9: building these echo chambers around themselves to reflect back everything 386 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 9: inside their head that they already know, their interest, curiosity, 387 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 9: and it just reinforces that for them. 388 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, but my question is what happened to the traditional 389 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: old fashioned blow up dolls? It's like nuts, It is crazy, right. 390 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 9: The world is so socially fragmented that people are looking 391 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 9: for alternatives, so much isolation. 392 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: Everything is so let me ask you this question because 393 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: I think it's important. 394 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: Okay, So, is this a chat box bot? 395 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: Would be obviously artificial intelligent intelligence image of someone of 396 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: whoever they're having this relationship with men and woman. Correct, 397 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: They're not just looking at a computer screen. They're having 398 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: this this relationship with what would appear to be an 399 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: image of a human being. 400 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: Correct. 401 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 9: Absolutely, And it's invoice and AI is so powerful. It 402 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 9: can be created at the person's own design. You can 403 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 9: tell it exactly what to look like, what form to take, 404 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 9: what to sound like, how to speak, so it can 405 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 9: really be customizable in a scary way almost. 406 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: How can you be sure that the chat box will 407 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: remain faithful to you and will cheetah on you with 408 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: some other weirdo I reade, I'm serious, I'm asking, I'm 409 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: asking relatively serious questions here. It is on my mind 410 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: is blown that people will think this, that they're going 411 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: to sit in front of computer and share their their 412 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: hopes and their dreams and their aspirations with an AI 413 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: generated human being. 414 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: That's what it comes down to, right. 415 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 9: It's crazy to think about it, right, what people will 416 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 9: turn to as an alternative to other living, breathing human beings. 417 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 9: And you just have to say, we need to pay 418 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 9: more attention to the people around us and find out 419 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 9: and ask those questions, Hey, what are you not getting? 420 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 9: What are you missing that you can't find any human being? 421 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 9: I mean, is it is a powerful draw? 422 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this this statistic one in 423 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: five Americans. I assume this means Americans, but over the 424 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: age of twenty one or something like that. I'm sure 425 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: we're not. I hope we're not talking about kids here, right, mean, 426 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to can I Is that an accurate assumption 427 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: that I'm making. 428 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 9: I think it is. It's not my research, and I 429 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 9: would say the survey did probably survey adults, but teenagers 430 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 9: are swarming to this technology. And I think if you're 431 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 9: a parent out there, you have to pay attention because kids, 432 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 9: you know, as young as ten, eleven, twelve years old 433 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 9: are seeking to find this feeling of being seen and 434 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 9: heard in technology. Instead of people, and that's really scary. 435 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 2: Well it is. I mean, you can understand how a 436 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: lot of kids now think. Look, when I grow up, 437 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a teacher. I'm not going 438 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: to be a firefighter, not going to be a police officer. 439 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to be an influencer. Because it looks like great, 440 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: easy work, but of course it is quite hard. I mean, 441 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: so that distorts. But I would hope that most people 442 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: at some point would say, well, I actually got to 443 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: go to school and I got to learn and trade, 444 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: or I have to go and get a college degree and. 445 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: Enter the workforce. 446 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: But this is a study that has been done here 447 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 2: in America. Please tell me that the rest of the 448 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: world is just as crazy as we are, and that 449 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: I hope that they've done studies in other countries which 450 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: shows that the fascination with these chatbots ire as sick 451 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: as we are. 452 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 453 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 9: I can't confirm anything about what's going on over see. 454 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 9: What I can tell you is if they've got access 455 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 9: to technology, then they're going to have to deal with 456 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 9: these exact same problems the same as we are. 457 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 458 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: Do you think that, And again, this is your area 459 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: of expertise. It's not my and I don't script questions. 460 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: These are just thoughts that can in my mind. Do 461 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: you think that over time the novelty of chatbots as 462 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: relationships will subside and that people will realize that's not 463 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: a real person that you're talking do here, it's it's 464 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: it's computer generated. 465 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: Do you think people will figure that out eventually? 466 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 467 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 9: I hope so, and maybe I share your optimism too, 468 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 9: that that over time the novelty will fade. And I 469 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 9: think people are going to discover that, you know, we 470 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 9: as humans we love because time runs out and AI 471 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 9: it has no existential stakes in the game, no threats. 472 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 9: It's going to be there endlessly, So the love and 473 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 9: the attention that an AI chatbot can provide is going 474 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 9: to be effectively empty. I think people will eventually discover, 475 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 9: you know, AI as a tool can be great to 476 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 9: rehearse interactions for people, but as soon as it replaces 477 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 9: interactions for people, that's when it gets really problematic. 478 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 479 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: I mean to think that someone is sitting in a 480 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: house or in their apartment and having this conversation and 481 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: this relationship, and I assume that just to make sure 482 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: I understand this, someone's sitting there and they have their 483 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: chat bot up on a screen and they're having an 484 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: ongoing conversation like, Hi. 485 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: How are you tonight? Doing great? 486 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: What's up with you? Well, it's kind of a slow 487 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about 488 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: there's actually a conversation theoretically going on. 489 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 9: Absolutely, Dan, there's voice recognition, and these conversations are live, dynamic, 490 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 9: and they're synthetic, but they're actually happening in real time. 491 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: Wow, I'll tell you that's fascinating. 492 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: I've interviewed some subjects that are talked about, some subjects 493 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: that I thought were pretty weird, but this. 494 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: Tops them all. Right now, So. 495 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: Anything you got a story that you want to chat about, 496 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: doctor Jonathan Thorpe. I'm a real human being. You're a 497 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: real human being. We can do it right here a 498 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: WBC radio. 499 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds good, Dan, Thank you very much. 500 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: Doctor. 501 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: I think that's fascinating. I really think it's fascinating. 502 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk with a 503 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: WBZ reporter. It's Jay will Lett, and he's going to 504 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: talk about the Boston Public Library is revamping a passport program. 505 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: So nothing is really new. Everything is kind of being revamping, 506 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: being revamped, I should say, and this and this actually 507 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: talks about how about this for an idea, actually physically 508 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 2: visiting libraries, Yeah, really buildings, walking into the library and 509 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: maybe taking a book off the shelf and I don't know, 510 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: reading it a little bit, or maybe even checking it 511 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: out and bringing it home, and then after twenty one 512 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: days or whatever the time is, you bring it back. 513 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: Kind of like a nineteen fifty or nineteen forties thing. 514 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: But it's coming around. The new passport program, or I 515 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: should say, the old passport program, has explained to us 516 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: by WBZ News Radio reported Jay. We'll let right after 517 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: this break. 518 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio. 519 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by WBZ reporter Jay will Lett. Jay, 520 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: I hear you during the day obviously, and we're going 521 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: to talk about a program. I don't know if you 522 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: discovered it, but you certainly did a very interesting report 523 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: on a Boston Public library program that revamps passport program. 524 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: Revamp says to me, it used to be around, used 525 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: to be available, it went away, and now it's back. 526 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: Tell us the history of it. 527 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, Hey, hey, Dan, thank you so much for having 528 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 8: me and I really appreciate your kind words. Yeah, yeah, 529 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 8: it's revamped, is you know a way of saying that, 530 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 8: you know they had it in previous years. I think 531 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 8: you it just would have had a different design to it, 532 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 8: but the library passport has a whole new design. I 533 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 8: think if it started in September, and that's how I 534 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 8: found out about it, is we were reporting on it 535 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 8: in WBZ in the newsroom. We got the release from 536 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 8: the library, and you know, I kind of started out 537 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 8: doing it for myself. I've actually completed the challenge myself, 538 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 8: and I didn't do it for work. I didn't do 539 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 8: it as a reporter. I just decided, you know what, 540 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 8: I want to explore my city and see the neighborhoods 541 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 8: myself and you know, just kind of live in the moment. 542 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 8: And it wasn't until afterward that I thought, you know, 543 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 8: I'm kind of depriving people of this if I don't 544 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 8: kind of get the word out. 545 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, so you know, when when did it? Was 546 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: it always there? 547 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: Or was it there and it fell into disuse and 548 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: then someone said, hey, that's we haven't done this for 549 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: twenty years or was it you know, was it suspended 550 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: for some period of time. If you know I asked 551 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 2: questions Jay, you know, I just made them up as 552 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: they go along here, So I'm asking you something you 553 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: don't know. 554 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: I apologize, go ahead. 555 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 8: No, no, by all means, please do. To my knowledge, 556 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 8: it didn't necessarily go away. I think the original passport 557 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 8: started a few years ago, but for whatever reason, you know, 558 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 8: people fell off from it. There maybe wasn't a lot 559 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 8: of draw to it. I can tell you that this 560 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 8: time around there's some big interests, notably because of those prizes. 561 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: So if you. 562 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 8: Don't know what we're talking about, if you go to 563 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 8: twenty so there's twenty six libraries in Boston. There's twenty 564 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 8: four that are currently open, and if you go to 565 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 8: what you what you do is you go to your 566 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 8: local library. You get the passport and it's kind of 567 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 8: like a little booklet. 568 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 4: It's cool. 569 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 8: It has all the libraries on there, and you go 570 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 8: to each of the libraries and each has each will 571 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 8: give you a stamp, and if you get ten stamps, 572 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 8: you get a custom magnet. And if you go to 573 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 8: all twenty six you get a deck of custom bpl 574 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 8: playing cards, which are very cool and I have them myself. 575 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 8: But if you ask me. The real prize of it, 576 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 8: and what really drew me to it, and what I imagine 577 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 8: drew a lot of adults to it is just getting 578 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 8: the opportunity to check out other neighborhoods that may not 579 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 8: have checked out and seeing what kind of libraries are 580 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 8: in store. 581 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: So when you say you get a stamp, is it 582 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: like a stamp when you're traveling internationally and they just 583 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 2: stamp the passport or do they give you a stamp 584 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: that they affix to your passport? 585 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, so's it's much The new design is much like 586 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 8: a traveling passport in the sense that you have all 587 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 8: these blank pages at the back of your booklet and 588 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 8: the librarian will just whip out this stamp. And each 589 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 8: library has its own special stamp. So it does feel 590 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 8: like you're traveling in a way. 591 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: You know, I think, how long did it? So? 592 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: It sounds to me like there's twenty four libraries or 593 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: twenty six, but two are currently under you know, reconstruction 594 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: or something. So how long did it take you to 595 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: hit all twenty four? 596 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 8: J It took me about a month. One of the 597 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 8: advantages that I had is that as a reporter, I 598 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,239 Speaker 8: am traveling around Boston always, and so the way that 599 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 8: I kind of approached it is that I would go 600 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 8: do stories and I would just look at my map 601 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 8: and my booklet and say to myself, well, which libraries 602 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 8: am I close to right now? And can I just 603 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 8: waltz on over? And yeah. I ended up kind of 604 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 8: completing it within a month, which is pretty cool and 605 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 8: one of the cool the important things about the the 606 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 8: booklet is that it shows you how to get to 607 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 8: each library from the others. So if you're they have 608 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 8: certain routes from nearby line libraries that you can follow. 609 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 8: And what's cool about it is that none of it 610 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 8: involves driving a car. So all these libraries you could 611 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 8: get get to by walking, running, biking, or taking the tee. 612 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 8: And they really try to hit that home that you 613 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 8: don't need to have a car to to go and 614 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 8: visit these libraries if you if you just get to 615 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 8: the first one. 616 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: But as a reporter, I assume as a reporter because 617 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: I was a reporter a long time ago and we 618 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: had vans and stuff, but sometimes you had to drive 619 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: yourself to the story. I'm assuming then when you're when 620 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: you're heading off to a story, you probably you're not 621 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: taking the tea. 622 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: I hope. 623 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I'm I'm definitely using a car to get Yeah. 624 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 625 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get the I get the point, But I mean, 626 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to find out that you're in some 627 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: sort of an MBT A train that people had to 628 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: jump out the window into the Mystic River. 629 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: You know. That's yeah, that's that's a that's above and beyond. Okay. 630 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: I grew up in Hyde Park. I'm a Boston kid 631 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: many many many years ago. Jay, what what is the 632 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: library in Hyde Park? If you have your passport? Is 633 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: it n in Reedville? Hyde Park there was a library 634 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: that was the next street over from us. 635 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: Actually, I'm just grace if it's the same location. 636 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 8: I think it is the same location. It's quite an old, 637 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 8: older library. 638 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: It was. 639 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 8: What was notable about Hyde Park is it was pretty 640 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 8: strict on the phone policy. I noticed that it was 641 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 8: really that library in particular that I walked in and 642 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 8: there's all these signs that say please no phones, please, 643 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 8: no devices. They're very distracting. And all the other libraries 644 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 8: they had some semblance of a phone policy is in 645 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 8: you know, there's like a quiet zone and whatnot. But 646 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 8: Hyde Park, it was all over the place, like they 647 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 8: just did not want people on their phones, which I 648 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 8: can appreciate. 649 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 7: You know, it's still and. 650 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: I totally get it. Libraries are supposed to be quiet. 651 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time in libraries and you're 652 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: trying to concentrate, so people don't you know, phones are 653 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: relatively I mean when you think about it, you know, 654 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: fifteen twenty years new. So when most of us grew 655 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: up and we're at that age where you go into libraries. 656 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: Did you pull any books out along the way or no? 657 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: Did you? Oh? 658 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yes, of course. I am an avid reader. 659 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 8: I love to read. One of the cool things about 660 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 8: going because you know, these days, everyone's checking out books. 661 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 8: I shouldn't say everybody, but a lot of people are 662 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 8: checking out books on their phones, speaking of phones and 663 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 8: their laptops through just the ebooks. And what I find 664 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 8: is the benefit of going to these physical libraries, apart 665 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 8: from you know, face to face connections and learning a 666 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 8: lot about the neighborhood, is that you can also check 667 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 8: out the Lucky Day aisle, which those books are not 668 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 8: available for holds. Nobody can reserve them. 669 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 4: They're all he's. 670 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 8: Gonna sit there, so and you only have two weeks 671 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 8: to read them, but it just it keeps it more available. 672 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 8: And these are these are the books that people are 673 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 8: seeking like, these are the sought after books, like right 674 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 8: off the shelf. 675 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you a book when next time you 676 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: go to the library. See if they have a Day 677 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: in the Life of a Television news Reporter. That was 678 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: a book that came out many years ago on me. 679 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: It was a theoretical Day in the Life of TV Reporter. 680 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: It was published by Little Brown, written by a fellow 681 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 2: who was a photo journalist named Bill Jasperson. It'll give 682 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: you a really good history on WBC TV A Day 683 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: in the Life of a television. 684 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: News report when I worked, okidding, I. 685 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: Used to get one of them every month or so 686 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: in the mail from some library across the country. Some 687 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: kid took it out, uh, and they said, will you 688 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: give me an autograph? 689 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: Will you do this? And yeah it was. 690 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: It was in all the libraries across the country. Now 691 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: it may have it's been a while, so you may 692 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: I have a few extra I have a few extra 693 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 2: copies by you know. Yeah, absolutely, all right, Jay, thank 694 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: you much. We'll talk soon, okay. 695 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 8: Buddy, all right, keep on reading. 696 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely Jable at WBZ News Radio Reporter we come back. 697 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: We are going to talk about what happened. It was 698 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: a riot last night, plain and simple. It was a 699 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 2: riot by a group of anarchists and four Boston police 700 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: officers were injured. We'll talk with Larry called Around of 701 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: the Boston Police Patrolman's Association. 702 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 3: He's the president. He'll have some interesting things to say.