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Speaker 1: You've been on the air a couple of times today.

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Speaker 1: He's been busy.

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Speaker 2: You tried to get out of here and go take

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Speaker 2: a nap, and I said, nope, old man, come on back,

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Speaker 2: Come on back. You're not going anywhere. There's an ice

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Speaker 2: corner over there. You can go take a nap on

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Speaker 2: the sidewalk or the carpet. I said, we got to.

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Speaker 1: Get more out of you. Man.

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Speaker 2: There's no way that you go out with I, in

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Speaker 2: with Mark, with Chuck and Buck, and then leave your

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Speaker 2: boys here.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't on Mark today. You weren't.

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Speaker 2: No, that must have been somebody else with unbelievable analysis

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Speaker 2: besides you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there is no one else. There is no one else.

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Speaker 1: That's a low bar.

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Speaker 3: Man. He get my bar's easy to hurdle. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to say that we wanted more. Let's go more for

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Speaker 3: with Well, let's get to it. You tend to hand

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Speaker 3: on the radio. Let's go Holy ca man, Well what

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Speaker 3: do you think so far? Are you enjoying yourself? This

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Speaker 3: is another Super Bowl radio row. You and me first

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Speaker 3: went twenty years ago Detroit.

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Speaker 1: You were no.

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Speaker 3: We went we went in ninety nine, ninety nine, we

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Speaker 3: went for in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was in Atlanta for sure, not with me.

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Speaker 1: You want to see what? No? Yeah, are you sure? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's Rams Rams Titans. I don't remember that at all.

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Speaker 2: I'll be totally honest with you. Are you sure it

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Speaker 2: was me and not some other Jewish kid that was

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Speaker 2: with you? Because I remember being with getting ct you know,

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Speaker 2: being with the garage in New Orleans and he's six

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Speaker 1: We've been here a bit. Yeah, But the point is

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Speaker 1: that you've been doing this since like your mid.

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Speaker 3: Filenwhile, and uh yeah, you know, there's been some chatter nationally,

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Speaker 3: hey is their star power? And and then you know,

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Speaker 3: for us, we don't care. So it's like, hey, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's have another parade. But in kind of looking at it,

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Speaker 3: I think there's some truth to that. I mean it

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Speaker 3: from a Seattle perspective. I mean, you think Pek Pete

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Speaker 3: Carroll compared to Mike McDonald. I mean, I personally, Mike

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Speaker 3: McDonald's more my style, but that's that's a personal thing.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You know, Sam Donald, I like his style.

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Speaker 3: But I could see how the rest of the country

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Speaker 3: You know, it kind of is there's the hardcore fans

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Speaker 3: be a good matchup in the super Right, and yet

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Speaker 3: then there's fans on the periphery we say, okay, does

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Speaker 3: this really have.

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Speaker 1: Like crossover transcendent power?

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Speaker 3: Are their personalities that bring you know, the people on

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Speaker 3: the periphery in.

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Speaker 4: The Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, Yeah, Brady.

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Speaker 3: You know, people knew Brady was you know, Oprah could

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Speaker 3: I think there's some truth not there with I don't

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Speaker 3: but but to the extent that that point has been raised,

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Speaker 3: I think there's a point to it.

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Speaker 4: What's the biggest, single, biggest reason the Seahawks are here

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Speaker 4: and the single biggest reason the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Are here Mike McDonald and the other guy Mike probably Vrabel.

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Speaker 3: They won four games last year. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've I've thought for years. I haven't said it in

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Speaker 3: Jimmy's and Joe's. I kicked it already right out the shoot.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's from from coaches that don't know

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Speaker 3: you know who I first heard that from. Huh Dick Baird. Well,

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Speaker 3: and Joe's, right, I think that, Uh. I think the

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Speaker 3: gap in players, right, And so I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: I've just been in in uh offensive meeting room where

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Speaker 3: forty four lucky Ricky, and I watch how it gets installed,

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Speaker 3: believe coaching is every bit is significant in the gap.

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Speaker 3: And so we're seeing this is a good year with

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Speaker 3: Signetti with uh with who's in the super Bowl, these

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Speaker 2: We were talking the other day about who deserves the

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Speaker 1: You got to pick one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said McDonald, You said Schneider, And then Jackson

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Speaker 3: everybody who did something that you you want to have

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Speaker 1: But never mind who hired who.

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Speaker 2: If if John Schneyder made all these moves, he made

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, I don't think so. It's

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Speaker 3: just it's not provable, it's not false viable. I just

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Speaker 3: I think Mike McDonald has done enough with with you

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Speaker 3: know how he has a vision for the defense, not

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Speaker 3: but his the way he's teaching the offense as everything

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Speaker 3: funnels through his headsets. You know, the constant encouragement of

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Speaker 3: have you ever seen frustration from Mike McDonald about turnovers?

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Speaker 3: One word to describe h Donald in the FC Championship game, fearless.

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Speaker 3: He fostered, Yeah right, we didn't care about any of

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Speaker 1: Closest to their potential.

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Speaker 3: And so I think it should not be unspoken how

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Speaker 4: I was thinking about the six units that are going

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Speaker 4: and the only concern was, Okay, is the Hawks offense

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Speaker 4: better than the Patriots defense?

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Speaker 1: That would be the three in.

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Speaker 4: The four, I would think, because I would think correct

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Speaker 4: if I'm wrong, that the Hawks defense and the Hawks

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Speaker 4: becial teams are one and two in this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've got a lot of respect for the Patriot defense.

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Speaker 3: I think that, particularly when considering that they're in year

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Speaker 3: last year, for example, you know, they they bounced Christian

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Speaker 3: the pressures that they've been bringing. They're twenty seven percent

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Speaker 3: and the regular season blitzes now they're for those blitzes

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Speaker 3: Now it helps that cl has two weeks to prepare.

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Speaker 3: I also like that for there's a lot there's a

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Speaker 3: when they bring a five man pressure and play zone

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Speaker 1: Uh. Some people call that a box car at Vegas

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Speaker 1: when you roll a six what is it? What box car? Right?

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Speaker 3: So just think of like, okay, three deep and three

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Speaker 3: four under when he brings five when he wants to

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Speaker 3: what's what's called a trigger or catch or palms technique

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Speaker 3: big oversimplification of it, but it's I think he creates

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Speaker 3: more problems for offense. Mike McDonald believes in it more

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Speaker 2: You're seeing how long it takes the Hawks to score

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Speaker 2: in a double move. That's what I'm looking for to.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to watching this game from the first

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Speaker 2: either break one for a big play or get into

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Speaker 2: the end zone. But here's the thing, what you mentioned

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Speaker 2: up the overplay.

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Speaker 1: You think Rabel knows that by now? Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: think he you know, yeah, of course, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: he and he follows me. He probably saw.

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Speaker 2: That, says that we're getting a little nosey here with

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Speaker 2: these double moves.

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Speaker 1: Boys. I want to right, he ses, that's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's philosophical, if you say there's sound arguments

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Speaker 3: to be made by both. I mean, flip a coin.

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Speaker 3: I'll make the argument for you the one if you

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Speaker 3: if you say defend the idea of be more passive,

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Speaker 3: then you say, hey, listen, it sounds like this.

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Speaker 1: The worst thing you.

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Speaker 3: Can do is big, give up a big play, Make

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Speaker 3: people drive the length of the field.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a penalty.

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Speaker 3: They'll make a mistake events eventually if you make them

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Speaker 3: go ten twelve plays.

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Speaker 1: You know, play good defense in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: Just don't give up that big play, you know, and

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Speaker 3: don't let anybody behind you. Okay, now you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: but they'll give up more intermediates in front in front

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Speaker 3: of them. If you want the argument, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Does any of that mean anything on Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Well, you look at Vrabel, he played in a number

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Speaker 1: After two years of law school.

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Speaker 1: Sure this is just his right.

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Speaker 3: But I think that all the ideas of say, okay,

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Speaker 4: The last ten games Jackson, Smith and Jigba has been

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks are ten and zero.

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Speaker 4: Right, So does he even have to be have a

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Speaker 1: And it was evident on.

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Speaker 1: He just was fast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And and I just think that he just said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well he ain't seen nothing yet. Like that's that's his dude.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny about that. I went and looked at

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Speaker 1: But you're right. I mean, that's well. He was named

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Speaker 2: You're going to pick a state to be the best

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Speaker 6: already between them and the league on how to do that.

437
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Speaker 6: So curious what you can say about that. And the

438
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 6: other is the report that the team was fined five

439
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Speaker 6: million dollars for not adhering to the structure of the

440
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Speaker 6: ownership rules.

441
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Speaker 7: Well, the last point, it's not true on the fine.

442
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 7: The second point, I would say, I think when Paul

443
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 7: all passed away, it is made very clear that as

444
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 7: a matter of the trust that the team would eventually

445
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Speaker 7: be sold. Jody's doing a great job of managing the team.

446
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 7: Bert's here, They've done a great job there in the

447
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 7: Super Bowl. I think from that standpoint, they've done a

448
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 7: really important job in the context of the trust and

449
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 7: the execution of that. But eventually the team will need

450
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 7: to be sold in accordance with that. That'll be Jody's

451
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 7: decision when she does that, and we will be supportive

452
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Speaker 7: of that.

453
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Speaker 2: There you go, Roger Goodell, not true, they've not been

454
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: fined five million dollars. The team eventually will be sold,

455
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: but everybody's denying it right now. You heard Greg Bell's

456
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: thought process on Friday when he said, well, the statement

457
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: doesn't say anything. It says they're not for sale today,

458
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: this exact second. Doesn't mean they won't be for sale

459
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: on Monday. So we all agree that eventually the team

460
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Speaker 2: will be sold. There's two things though, Number one, how

461
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Speaker 2: big of a distraction could this be this week for

462
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Speaker 2: the players? And then number two, how can earned are

463
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: we that eventually somebody not in the Allen family will

464
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: take this thing over?

465
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: And moreover, when he said not true, it could have

466
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: been not true to any one of those several items

467
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Speaker 3: that were involved in the question. It could have been

468
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 3: four million, and and oh yes, say not true. You

469
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: know it was actually six point nine. Yeah, so so

470
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Speaker 3: it was only five And that's not a shot at Bob,

471
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Speaker 3: I mean, in a big uh you know.

472
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Speaker 1: National presser as it really were.

473
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Speaker 3: You know, you don't have the time to just sit

474
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 3: there and you know a follow ups, Well, okay, what

475
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: part of that's not true?

476
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Speaker 1: All of it? Four right.

477
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Speaker 3: As far as the distraction, I'm not in their heads,

478
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: the players. I can only speak to my sense of

479
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: what would be likely.

480
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

481
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: I think it's minimal. I think it's more distracting that

482
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 3: Kubiak is going to be gone, and maybe the offensive

483
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: line coach and maybe the defensive coordinator. But yeah, I

484
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: mean I think it's less than ideal. I mean, Jody

485
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: Allen was just up on that stage with them, you know,

486
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: celebrating with the confetti and the and the trophies and

487
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: all right, So it would be better, I think, for

488
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 3: the for the players, if if you had more stability there.

489
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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's gonna impact them in this game.

490
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Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you about Kobiak and you know

491
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Speaker 4: the level of distraction, and also just what are we

492
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Speaker 4: going to be missing next year? Do you think there's

493
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: gonna be a significant drop off in the execution to

494
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Speaker 4: the offense?

495
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Speaker 3: Ask me when they replace him, you know, are they

496
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: are they gonna replace from within? Are they going to

497
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: replace with the guy that that knows similar system, you know,

498
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: the Kyle Shanahan system, you know, which is a little

499
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: bit of a uh you know, it's it's a bastardization.

500
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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking that there's got to be another Kubiak somewhere.

501
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: I mean, they're all running, they.

502
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Speaker 4: Are they behind the eight ball because they're playing so

503
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: long and all these guys have been hired.

504
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 8: Uh well, I think I think that the the other

505
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 8: teams they can't have interaction with the players now, they

506
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 8: can't be having mini camps and you know, or O

507
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 8: T A S or anything yet.

508
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: So right, but some of these new hot offensive coordinators

509
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: have already.

510
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 3: Taken in terms of uh yeah, oh you're saying, you're

511
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: you're picking the leftovers at the North soon rack.

512
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

513
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: Well, but if you want to promote like somebody else's

514
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: past game coordinator, you can do that, right. You might

515
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: not get somebody else's OC because they could block it,

516
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: but you could get somebody's pass game coordinator, run game

517
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: coordinator or whatever. Right, who is the guy from the Lions,

518
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: the off the offensive line coach that they were talking

519
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: about making the OC last year? Remember that dude that

520
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: was in the mix he was he was an offensive

521
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: line coach that was in the for the OC job.

522
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: You know somebody like that, right, But I mean.

523
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: Should they should they wait and do these interviews when

524
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: the season's over.

525
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, it's like I didn't like

526
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: hearing the fact that last weekend Clint Koobiak is sitting

527
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: around talking to the Cardinals and Raiders should be getting

528
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: ready for the freaking super There you go.

529
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: Well, Saturday, the Hayes in the barn mostly for that

530
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: NFC championship game. So that really wasn't the fact. You know,

531
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 3: it's really kind of your personal integrity. I mean on

532
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: Tuesday and Wednesday when you should be you know, doing

533
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 3: watching an extra reel. Okay, I've already watched, you know,

534
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: the two minute drill. I've watched the the red zone drill.

535
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: You know, I've seen the game, so I probably don't

536
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: need to see the third third down Uh sure, sure,

537
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 3: uh tape. But then you say, well, wait a minute,

538
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: every game this season you've watched third third h third

539
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: down tape?

540
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? Correct?

541
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: So why what why did you choose to choose the

542
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: chance on that? And you know, little things like that

543
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: could creep in I hope we're not talking about this

544
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 3: on Sunday. Well, I think they Maybeack had his best

545
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: game on Sunday, right, and he's been in these discussions.

546
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: For what that's worth.

547
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: I thought I thought he handed Krisula's ass the majority

548
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 3: of the game, and Chris Sula had been interviewing as well.

549
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: There's just a lot of times where you're look and

550
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: you say, the rams are not right, they're not communicating right,

551
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: they're running the wrong coverage that within the coverage they're

552
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: not they're not uh slanting to the right people, they're

553
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: not redirecting h on the right people out of the slot.

554
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things, you know, and and and

555
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: again Kubiak engendered that thought in me in this game

556
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: more than probably any other game. And now you could

557
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 3: say the Commanders are some of these you know, Jackson Jacksonville.

558
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: There's other really good games. But when you consider the

559
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: stakes and the quality of the opponent, I think that

560
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: that was Kubiak's best.

561
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Kay, well, before you go, you played the position, Hugh,

562
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: and he was with us live from radio Row at

563
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

564
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: Obviously, you ever have.

565
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: Something get in your head that you know shouldn't be there,

566
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: as a player, and you just can't. You couldn't shake it,

567
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: you couldn't get rid of it. People remind you about it. Whatever,

568
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I mean all of us do it now?

569
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: Even just like this?

570
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what you mean? As afer as we think.

571
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: About like that hole, that's my I hate that whole right,

572
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: you get to the par three whatever?

573
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: Sam?

574
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: Have you seen Sam Donald's numbers against the Patriots? Has

575
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: anybody bothered to look to see what Donald has done.

576
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: In his career? In his career doesn't matter, That's what

577
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm asking. He's a different quarterback now. Well I know

578
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: that they know that. Tell what his numbers are forty.

579
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Two passer rating, one touchdown, nine interceptions in four games

580
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: against the Patriots.

581
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: And I just I don't know.

582
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean that was obviously most of that was, if

583
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: not all of it with the Jets, obviously right because

584
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: they played in the same division.

585
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: Is he thinking about any of that stuff like this? Does?

586
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 5: Do?

587
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: I hate till we use the word ghosts because don't

588
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: know how much that bothers you to talk about ghosts

589
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: with Sam Donald?

590
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: Are it bothers me to talk about ghosts in the

591
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: wrong content?

592
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 8: No?

593
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: I get that right, But that's a different conversation for

594
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 2: different Are there any cobwebs at all for him?

595
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: Okay, the sensible answer is that's a personality thing. And

596
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I'm not in his head. I

597
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: think that there's it's potential that some would say, oh,

598
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: you know, the Patriots my worst experience and and it

599
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: could creep in all those years.

600
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: I can't say that's out of the question. In theory.

601
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: That would have been much more of a factor in

602
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: the ram NFC Championship game for obvious reasons. And he

603
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: was able to want to call it slay those dragons,

604
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: what have you? Uh, you know, for what it's worth,

605
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 3: the ghost game, if you want to call it. That

606
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: was against the Patriots. They were That was a twelve

607
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: and four Patriot team that was number one in the

608
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: NFL on defense and number one in past defense that year.

609
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: Yards uh, first downs, uh and.

610
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: It I look, you gotta you gotta have uh.

611
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: You gotta have a strong mind to play quarterback, and

612
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: particularly to be a Super Bowl quarterback. You got you

613
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: have to you have to be able to just bury

614
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: stuff that that would would you know, stuffs creeps in

615
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: and you just gotta you know, you gotta power through it.

616
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: Mainly, I'm not saying that I was good at it.

617
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, hell I was. But see what am I

618
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: supposed to say when you say that you're right here?

619
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: No no you were no no, no.

620
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: No so but but but being around the guy a

621
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: few greats of the game and looking at the position

622
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: for fifty years, I have no hesitation saying it's hard. Yeah, hard,

623
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: things are hard, and battling through, you know, all of

624
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: the demands of being a professional quarterback and being a

625
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl quarterback. It's you've got to have a strong mind.

626
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: Damn strong mind, I hope. And I think you know,

627
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: he's Look, you know, he won a Rose Bull fifty

628
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: two to forty nine. He threw for five touchdowns game

629
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: four over four hundred yards. He won to Pack twelve

630
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: championship game against Stanford three three and twenty five yards,

631
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: and and uh.

632
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: I think two or three touchdowns. He's had big game.

633
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: He won a big game against the Huskies, he won

634
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: a big game last week against the last Sunday right exactly,

635
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: and uh and so uh, look, I think this is

636
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: the first time where people are kind of just going,

637
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: whoa this Darnold dude's a dude. This is the first

638
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: freaking time since he got drafted as a twenty year old,

639
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: but just for contact.

640
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: I mean the last time he played in New England

641
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: was November the seventh, twenty twenty one.

642
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: He was twenty four years ago.

643
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: Who knows if it's in his head? The crappy team knows, well,

644
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: no idea what's in his head? I just think that

645
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: this is I. I have the same idea that you

646
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: had last Sunday. I want them to win this game

647
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: next Sunday, and I want him to be the reason

648
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: why they win. I want them to win the game

649
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: and say we could not have done this without Sam Darnold.

650
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: I think it'd be great. I think it'd be great.

651
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: They didn't last week totally. They won both RAM games,

652
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: both correct both.

653
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford threw for like a thousand yards against the

654
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: Seahawks and he went one and two in those three games. Okay,

655
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: all right, all right man, good stuff. Okay, can you

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Speaker 2: milling with us? We'll do some texts next segment four nine,

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Speaker 2: four or five one? Phil simms Son, how about that?

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Speaker 2: Chris Simms will join us at five o'clock tonight on

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Speaker 2: ninety three three KJRFM,