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Speaker 1: Welcome into the creative construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement Sure

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeartRadio app coming

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Speaker 1: live from the Donovan and Jorgensen Heity Cooling Studios. I

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Speaker 1: might be given alongside the twenty twenty five Associate of

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Speaker 1: the Year for MBA. Man Congratulations, Bingo's people standing in

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Speaker 1: the studio clapping balloons, confetti, beautiful cake yep Man.

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Speaker 2: Well, first thing people said, okay your associate idea? Does

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Speaker 2: that mean?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Well, anyways, well, if the NBA they got builders people up,

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Speaker 2: you know, find up with some dirt and build a

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Speaker 2: house and associated everybody else and when it was everybody

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Speaker 2: else got was that a surprise for you? Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what was coming.

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Speaker 1: Man. The one year, I'm not MCing the thing.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's why I did good it right. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's why because they're waiting for you to get out

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Speaker 2: of here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I I normally had you guys seated way in the back.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I asked him. I said, yeah, how come Mike,

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Speaker 2: And he says, well, you you suggested that I'm they

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Speaker 2: take a year off from you.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because three years in a row and I

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Speaker 1: know Rob probably did. He didn't do.

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Speaker 2: No, you just you just wanted to watch a Brewer game.

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Speaker 1: Nope, nope, nope. I got to talk to Rob. It

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Speaker 1: feels like Rob started to go after some of my stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I need to have a little conversation with with Rob.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, he spent some time talking to me. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I know he did.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he talked to Colonel Electric outvan Jeorgans and heating, cooling,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the all of my my guys. And

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Speaker 1: we'll have a little conversation with Rob los about six

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Speaker 1: blocks for me. So I'll just stop by knocking his

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Speaker 1: door and introduce myself.

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Speaker 2: No, I have a I might have a conflict of

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Speaker 2: interest because this kid worked for us last summer.

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Speaker 1: He could worked for Colonel Electric last summer.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, remember two weeks ago, I wasn't here because

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Speaker 2: my daughter got married. Yes, well I got to call

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Speaker 2: it Wednesday morning. He guess who else guests got married?

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Speaker 2: Zach no Way, yep, yeah, maybe he took his little

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Speaker 2: vacation to some park things. So I got a call

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Speaker 2: and he's like, you know the Hey, Dad, I just

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Speaker 2: want let you know that he got we got married.

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Speaker 2: So you can put bucket because we're at We're at

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Speaker 2: the wedding. Oh, at the wedding? Was this horrible? Every said,

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Speaker 2: when do you get made? When you get made?

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Speaker 1: When do you get married?

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Speaker 2: He said, you guys can quit, finally saying that we

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Speaker 2: finally did it.

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Speaker 1: Man, you know what I told him for years, You

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Speaker 1: better put a ring on that finger. Put a ring

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Speaker 1: on that figure. Good for him. Congratulations, Zach, look at you.

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Speaker 1: You got him all off and married.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like I said, you know, so we

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Speaker 2: had two kids married less than two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you did. One was a little more expensive than.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one here. Yeah, I hope I didn't pay

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Speaker 2: for anything. But dev is not letting him get off

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Speaker 2: without a party. We're gonna go. They do gonna make

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Speaker 2: him do the place. No, we don't want to do anything.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you ain't getting away with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that coming. Hey, our special guest,

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Speaker 1: and hey, sorry about that. We had a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about before we introduced. He is the current president

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Speaker 1: for Nary Milwaukee. Current because only in a couple more

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Speaker 1: months he becomes the past president, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. We'll find out Tom, Guys, mkae

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Speaker 1: Designed Build Milwaukee Design Build. You can go to mke

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Speaker 1: deesign buill dot com for more information on his company.

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Speaker 1: We're talking a lot of Narry stuff today. Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: good to see the morning.

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Speaker 4: Might get to see you as well. Been good, been

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Speaker 4: really good, been busy, but overall enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: How is my friend Sarah doing.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Sarah's doing great. And Sarah's doing awesome.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm not that surprised she didn't come in studio

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Speaker 1: with you. Yeah. No, she didn't like coming in studio

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Speaker 1: when she was the courr Electric.

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Speaker 2: Wish I wish i'd know that, I would have forgot

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Speaker 2: that she works. That would have made her because yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because we go way back with her.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I officiated her wedding. If I can't tell

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Speaker 1: her to come in studio, even when when she was

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Speaker 1: the cour Electric, when she came in studio, she was like,

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Speaker 1: I'll come in, but I'm not talking. I'd be like, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: this is radio and we're a lot of the radio.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to talk. Don't ask me many questions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's just the best. She's still doing really well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a rock star.

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Speaker 4: She's I was rassing her yesterday at the show because

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Speaker 4: she said it was like, Hey, I'm doing the radio

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Speaker 4: sort tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: I said, last time Mike asked me to bring you along.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not coming to see there it is.

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Speaker 1: And look, I understand that her husband, and I'm a

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Speaker 1: big fan of Bobby's, he's had a rough high school

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Speaker 1: football season. I'm sure that he's not been the peach

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Speaker 1: to be around the whole season. So maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: she didn't want to come back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she said, he's been spending long hours working

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Speaker 4: on the on the team and trying to improve it,

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Speaker 4: and yeah.

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Speaker 5: The unfortunately didn't go well for him.

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Speaker 1: It did not go well. And I haven't called him

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Speaker 1: a lot of times, like back in the day when

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Speaker 1: were rolling, I'd be on the phone with them all

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Speaker 1: the time, you know, talking about that team and who

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Speaker 1: you know, upcoming matchups, and didn't talk too much this year.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. Hey, the Narrow Show started.

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty five home remodeling show at State Fair

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Speaker 1: Park started yesterday. Yeah, how did that go? Yesterday?

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Speaker 5: It went great?

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Speaker 4: So really excited this year we we created a new

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Speaker 4: kind of focal point for the show this year, which

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Speaker 4: is the Midwest basement. Yeah, it ties in and correlates awesome.

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Speaker 4: I mean, unfortunately, we had a lot of you know,

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Speaker 4: the standpoint of for those that unfortunately went through that

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Speaker 4: more creative or innovative ways to look at their basement

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Speaker 4: it is is perfect, right, and it's it's cool the

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Speaker 4: way they set it up. You know, they just did

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Speaker 4: perfect time for you know, people that are thinking about

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Speaker 5: That are there, that are excited to be there.

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Speaker 4: They're excited to meet with you and really get a

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Speaker 2: And what happens is right now, you know, as we're

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Speaker 2: homes are being built, they're not being built with basements.

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Speaker 2: So then every people want to make additions. The most

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Speaker 2: People just like, well, I want tom do an edition.

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Speaker 2: The balls are there, the room's there, the spots are there.

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Speaker 2: it's there. It's a good, really good opportunity to take

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to buy tickets. Guys, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: the show, buy them ahead of time. Go online and

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Speaker 1: you can again, Bengo says, you can be in line

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Speaker 1: save a couple of bucks. Goes on today and tomorrow

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Speaker 1: again at State Fair Park. Tickets are eight dollars online,

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Speaker 1: ten dollars at the door. Seniors are eight bucks with

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Speaker 1: an ID, and then kids seventeen and under are free

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Speaker 1: along with active military, veterans medical personnel. Just bring your

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Speaker 2: You're going on Sunday or you're going someday and it's free.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That was the next one special promotion during the Packer game.

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Speaker 1: Get over there tomorrow at three o'clock and it's free

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Speaker 1: miss the Packer game there. They are gonna be TVs.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, there's so many had the Brewer game on

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Speaker 1: No, no they didn't. They had my twenty four for

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Speaker 1: the high school I'm on the sidelines over there. That was.

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Speaker 2: That was just times you can live.

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Speaker 1: You want, you can't, but you might want. I'm city

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Speaker 1: right here, No, that's all right. Homestead at West and West.

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Speaker 1: It was a heck of a game, went right down

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Speaker 1: And big high school show today, by the way, brackets

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Speaker 1: getting back to the near show. Yesterday's crowd when you

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Speaker 1: and then you know, in the evening, like it always

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Speaker 1: good Friday compared to word spend in the past. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, So we had a good attendance yesterday. And then

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Speaker 4: you know, honestly, the show in and of itself, as

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Speaker 4: I was giving the announcements and talking to the staff yesterday,

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Speaker 4: attributed to the staff, you know, and also the committees

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Speaker 4: that are you know, reinventing what the show is trying

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Speaker 4: to you know, spark more interest, providing things like that

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Speaker 4: Midwest basement revival, right because unfortunately, well fortunately for us,

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Speaker 4: I guess unfortunately for a lot of people is that

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Speaker 4: you know, homeowners that maybe can't visualize it can't really

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I was the thing about is what happening

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Speaker 2: is the whole world was going to Amazon right every

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Speaker 2: he's buying online. Look online. You don't take this right.

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Speaker 2: But if you're doing remodeling, you know, you need to

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Speaker 2: build a relationship because these people are they live in

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Speaker 2: your house for a while. You need to build a

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Speaker 2: decent relationship. And then you know, it's like you and

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Speaker 2: my wife. She doesn't like to just want buy. She

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Speaker 2: wants to go there. Become good friends with her whoever

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Speaker 1: Yet yeah, hang around. They don't let you break clean.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the twenty twenty five Homer remodeling show.

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Speaker 1: He is with MKE Designed a Build. They're located in

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Speaker 1: only on Fox Sports signed twenty and Your iheartradiop Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home Improvement show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeartRadio app. Coming

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Speaker 1: live from the Donovan and Jorganson Heating and Cooling Studios,

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Speaker 1: the largest employee owned HVAC company in the state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Go to Donovan Jorgenson dot com for any of your

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Speaker 1: HVAC needs. I'm Mike McGivern alongside Bengo Emmons, the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five Associated of the Year for the NBA. Can't

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Speaker 1: believe you're making me introduce you like that every time for.

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Speaker 2: The next just for our next year.

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Speaker 1: For the next year. Oh man, next for you one

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Speaker 1: weeks the NBA Associated of the Year. That's a big

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Speaker 1: old trophy you were holding.

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Speaker 2: It was it was really big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it looks like you started a thing

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Speaker 2: in the fifties.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, Hey, thank good. This dev was there

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Speaker 1: to help you carry that thing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: telling you our special guest in studio. He is the

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Speaker 1: current president for NARY Milwaukee. He is Tom guys MK

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Speaker 1: Designed Build. How long is MKA design Bill ben In?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we opened up in twenty fifteen, so just

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Speaker 4: over ten years that we've we've been in business, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean we we are about a fifteen person team,

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Speaker 4: and you know, honestly, we specialize in mostly high end

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Speaker 4: residential modeling, but also like commercial so we'll do bars, restaurants,

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Speaker 4: we do some dental medical facilities as well, but primarily

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Speaker 4: our business is really centered around residential and residential remodeling.

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Speaker 1: Did you start the company? Yeah, yeah, so you're you're

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Speaker 1: a call owner. Yeah, when you started the company, did

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Speaker 1: you think, man, we all look at that one year

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Speaker 1: or three year, right, ten year? Did you think that

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Speaker 1: you guys would get to how big you are right now?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think I did, but it was I

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Speaker 4: mean even now, so my business partner and I, you know,

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Speaker 4: we always really have adopted the mindset of organic growth.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's never really been about a number of

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Speaker 4: employees or you know, even revenue right. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: is just something that we're passionate about, construction remodeling in particular,

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Speaker 4: and we want to make a living. You know, we

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Speaker 4: want all of our people to make a good living.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, whether I'm doing it for somebody

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Speaker 4: else or doing it for myself, that was really just

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Speaker 4: a choice. But yeah, it's never We've never been driven

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Speaker 4: by you know, those types of metrics. Right, it's just

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Speaker 4: been Yep, this is what we're gonna do, and we're

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Speaker 4: going to make a go of it, and we're going

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Speaker 4: to make sure that we're successful by just you know,

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Speaker 4: putting in the effort and hard work and learning, teaching ourselves.

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Speaker 4: And uh, it's been great, it's been awesome. We have

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Speaker 4: a really great culture within our within our organization of

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Speaker 4: our employees, and we just have a lot of fun

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Speaker 4: and really spend a lot of time together and joining

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Speaker 4: each other.

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Speaker 1: What out on the street, what do you think you

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Speaker 1: guys are known for the most? Is it first of

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Speaker 1: all residential? I think right, yeah? But is it is

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Speaker 1: it full full room model? Is a certain area in

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Speaker 1: the in the house. Is there something that you guys

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Speaker 1: kind of hang your hat on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I would say full service remodeling.

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Speaker 4: And the reason I say that is because we we

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Speaker 4: are turn key, right, So we're we're very approachable, you know,

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Speaker 4: we really want to work with people. You know, We're

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Speaker 4: We're definitely not someone that's going to come in and

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Speaker 4: tell you, you know, what the best way to do

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Speaker 4: something is. We're going to listen to you and understand

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Speaker 4: what your needs are. We're gonna make suggestions along the way.

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Speaker 4: But more than anything, we want to be approachable, right.

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Speaker 4: We want a relationship with these people. We have a

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Speaker 4: lot of repeat customers, repeat business and it's because for us,

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Speaker 4: we look at it as you know, for whatever it

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Speaker 4: is that you know, these customers do, right, we want

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Speaker 4: to be their advocate, whether this is a commercial space

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Speaker 4: and their business.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: You know I've told some of our dental clients in

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Speaker 4: the past, right, Hey, you you focus on teeth and

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Speaker 4: you focus on what you're doing with that, and I'll

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Speaker 4: focus on your building for you.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: And that's really our mindset, right is that you know,

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Speaker 4: we're not We're very humble. We you know, want to

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Speaker 4: help out. We we care about quality, we care about

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Speaker 4: our product and what we're putting out there. Uh, and

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Speaker 4: we want all of our employees to really vest in

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Speaker 4: that and enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Hey, do you when when when you go into

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Speaker 1: to somebody who's looking to redo their kitchen. That for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, when I was grown up on the East

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Speaker 1: side of Milwaukee with this whole Irish family, and the

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Speaker 1: kitchen was such a focal point, and then it kind

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Speaker 1: of moved to the living area in the living room

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Speaker 1: and maybe the dining room because they'd hang a TV there.

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Speaker 1: But it seems to me like it's back to that kitchen.

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Speaker 1: And maybe I'm wrong with that, and that open concept

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Speaker 1: of trying to blend the two is that in every

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Speaker 1: single conversation that you.

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Speaker 4: Have, Yeah, I mean, you know, it's the kitchen is

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Speaker 4: so you know, it's such a center of someone's home, right,

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's a I guess I

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Speaker 4: don't know if it's a Midwest thing or not, right,

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Speaker 4: but I feel like I agree with you. You know,

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Speaker 4: no matter what, when you have people over, everyone kind

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Speaker 4: of gravitates. And you know, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: because your you know, food is just kind of this

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Speaker 4: thing that draws everyone in or what, but you know,

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Speaker 4: everyone sort of gravitates to the kitchen, that's where you convene,

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Speaker 4: where you talk, you know, and so you know, not

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Speaker 4: necessarily always is an open concept, right, but you kind

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Speaker 4: of always have to look at it in context of

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Speaker 4: the adjacencies to the other spaces, how it functions, how

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Speaker 4: it works. Some people prefer a more open concept, right,

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Speaker 4: and then others say, I don't want an open concept

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Speaker 4: because then everyone's going to gravitate into my kitchen and

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to cook.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: So it's really well a matter of preference.

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Speaker 1: Man. We found that out when we moved to this

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Speaker 1: This kind of for me, my wife loves it. It

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Speaker 1: was when we were in our home on eighty eighth Street.

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Speaker 1: The kitchen was a different area, different room with walls

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Speaker 1: and doors, and now it's all open and you're trying

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Speaker 1: to watch a ball game or something and the you know,

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Speaker 1: the dishwashers on or the you know, something's going down

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Speaker 1: in the kitchen. You had to turn it up. And

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Speaker 1: there are some downsides to that open concept.

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Speaker 4: There, there are some downsides that open concept. Yeah, So

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Speaker 4: I mean it really again, it depends on you know,

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Speaker 4: what everyone's preference is with it. Obviously, newer construction homes,

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Speaker 4: you know, newer design homes, a lot of them are

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Speaker 4: open concept, and I think it still works, you know,

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Speaker 4: but of course you get into your older bungalows things

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Speaker 4: like that, and it's it's natural to have those spaces

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Speaker 4: segregated like that.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say something to it. There's also a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a trend. I know, it's in a

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Speaker 2: few products I've been a part of. They Actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: they got the open concept and there's a little room

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Speaker 2: right next to it that's like where the where they

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Speaker 2: can go there and go.

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Speaker 5: Hide little pantry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a little pantry thing, take a little

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Speaker 2: sinking there, a little coffee area in there, and you

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Speaker 2: got a little place go in there where you can

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Speaker 2: do stuff. So they're not like.

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Speaker 1: Right there, walk in closet.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's what it looks like. And I'm saying, it's like,

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Speaker 2: what do you need this for? You said, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you have a bunch of people over and you're

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Speaker 2: cutting fish or something, you just got to do it

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Speaker 2: in there, and coffee in there.

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Speaker 1: We we have a walking closet in our bedroom. That

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Speaker 1: most of what they did when they kind of redid

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Speaker 1: our condo, they did great, sure, but they used those

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Speaker 1: wire racks in our walking closet, and once started to

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Speaker 1: bowl a little bit, and then another words started bowl

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Speaker 1: a little bit, so I I fixed it, try it,

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Speaker 1: and so it was okay for a bit, and then

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Speaker 1: one the other one started the bowl a little bit

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Speaker 1: and my wife said, hey, I'm gonna go to Pick

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Speaker 1: and Save and wait till I get back and we'll

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Speaker 1: do it together. I said, no, I okay, and I

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Speaker 1: thought I got this. I did the other ones and

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Speaker 1: as I lifted it up, and we had so much

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Speaker 1: stuff in there, Christmas ornaments, all of it. It all

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Speaker 1: came down, all of it, and it was like boom,

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Speaker 1: boom boom. And I was stuck in the back of

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Speaker 1: the closet. But I had my phone and I called

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Speaker 1: her and I said, where are you. She said, I'm

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Speaker 1: just getting done at Pick and Save and I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the closet. She goes, what, I go,

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Speaker 1: wait till you come home. You're not gonna believe this.

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Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the closet. And so by the time

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Speaker 1: she got home, I had dug myself out and she

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Speaker 1: goes with a doorstock. I go, no, go in there,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, this is not going to go. Well,

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Speaker 1: she goes, I get a new closet, don't I. I said, yes,

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Speaker 1: you do. So we got that done. But I can

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Speaker 1: tell you, man, it was to upgrade. Now it's like

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Speaker 1: almost that's my favorite room.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's just so nice to be able to and we

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Speaker 1: see the lighting part, all of it. It's it's great.

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Speaker 1: So I can see why people are putting that in

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Speaker 1: off the kitchen, getting nice to put a little bit

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Speaker 1: of mini TV in there and just close the door. Right. Yeah. Hey,

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Speaker 1: down at State Fair Park, you guys are booth four thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be there?

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Speaker 4: So I'm over there today, I was there yesterday, I'll

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Speaker 4: be there tomorrow all day.

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Speaker 1: You'll be there tomorrow all day all day. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: if you're going, make sure you head over to Booth

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Speaker 1: four thirteen. Talk to Time. You can talk to him

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Speaker 1: about nairy stuff. You can talk to him about building stuff,

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Speaker 1: about work, about packers.

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Speaker 5: You'll talk packers anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not talking about your footballer version.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm a little sour about the Brewers game. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so you know in batterers. Honestly, yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 4: just a sensitive subject for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: A show I do call Faith in the Zone that

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Speaker 1: airs Sunday, so you're on nine to twenty. I talked

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Speaker 1: to a guy named Brady Ewing, Okay, who played at

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Speaker 1: at Wisconsin, played in the NFL, was on the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff for a bit, and we were talking about Faith

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Speaker 1: in the Zone and and and I finally said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you, how are you feeling? He goes,

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Speaker 1: they're unwatchable right now? Yeah, And I go they are

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Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm so sad by this. He said,

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Speaker 1: I really was happy with the Fickle Hire and I

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Speaker 1: I just I just don't know what they're laying their head.

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Speaker 1: And as we talked about when I asked you, what

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Speaker 1: do you guys? You know what? This is who we are?

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Speaker 1: They don't.

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Speaker 5: They don't have that identity.

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Speaker 1: They don't have that identity at all. For sure. Hey,

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Speaker 1: when yesterday when you were down at State Fair Park,

651
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Speaker 1: what are most consumers coming to talk to you about? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So to us specifically, they're they're coming and talking about remodeling,

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Speaker 4: typically a kitchen or a bathroom. We do have some

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Speaker 4: folks that come in and talk about additions, you know,

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Speaker 4: and into our whole house.

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Speaker 5: Remodels as well.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like that's it's it's definitely more kitchens

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Speaker 4: and baths for sure. And again that's that's a very

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Speaker 4: large portion of our business is just kitchens and bathroom.

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Speaker 1: You know, early on in our conversation about your company

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Speaker 1: in this segment, you said, look, we are high end.

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Speaker 1: We're a high end. Do people do people get surprised?

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Speaker 1: Do they ask you budget wise, where do I need

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Speaker 1: to be to work with you? And are they surprised

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Speaker 1: at that number?

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Speaker 4: I would I would say they are, and I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of it. You know, It's it's not that

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Speaker 4: we have a you know floor as far as what

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Speaker 4: you know number will work with or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: We're definitely willing to work with whatever budget they have,

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Speaker 4: but we definitely want to identify that budget very early

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Speaker 4: on because it is our goal as a design build

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Speaker 4: and part of that turn key process to really navigate

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Speaker 4: in and guide them, you know, into that budget.

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Speaker 1: Hey, the difference between a design build company and a

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Speaker 1: company that you could go and bring your own design

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Speaker 1: and say, well you build this force is it that

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Speaker 1: that's a big difference. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I Mean we do all the drawings, we do all

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Speaker 4: of the finished selections, with you.

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Speaker 1: We have our.

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Speaker 4: Designers in house, so it is a big difference, right,

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Speaker 4: And and part of the reason why it's so great

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Speaker 4: is because we have that autonomy to help guide you

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Speaker 4: early in the process so that you're not over designing, right.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's where people are surprised when it

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Speaker 4: comes to cost, right, is that they see all the

688
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Speaker 4: pretty pictures. I mean, social media is great for that, right,

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Speaker 4: The Internet is great for that. They see all these

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Speaker 4: things that they want, they don't fully understand how much

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Speaker 4: a lot of that costs, right, And so we try

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Speaker 4: to be really transparent and open with our pricing and

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Speaker 4: just say, hey, look, you know, it's not that we're

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Speaker 4: trying to profit, you know, in mass amount of money

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Speaker 4: or anything like that for these jobs.

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Speaker 5: It's just this is what the real costs are.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: My thing is like they see someone on Pinterest and

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Speaker 2: it won't fit in a room that they want to

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Speaker 2: put it, right, They're like, well, yeah, can you make

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Speaker 2: this thing work? My wife really likes it, you know,

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Speaker 2: not necessary space.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, if somebody comes to you and and wants

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Speaker 1: you just to be the design part of it or

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Speaker 1: just the build part of it, can they hire you

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Speaker 1: for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 4: More so we've had that happen where people come to

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Speaker 4: us with their own designs and they want us to

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Speaker 4: just contract it the design portion. The way that we

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Speaker 4: operate is to segment and we create milestones throughout the

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Speaker 4: process where you know, theoretically, if they wanted to stop

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Speaker 4: working with us after the design and you know, go

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Speaker 4: to another contractor, they could. To be honest, that's I

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Speaker 4: think only happened one time in the entire history of

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Speaker 4: our company. And part of the reason is, and Bingo

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Speaker 4: and I had talked about it before. We have developed

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Speaker 4: a rapport and a relationship with people at that point

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Speaker 4: right where they're comfortable, they're confident, they don't really want

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Speaker 4: to start over with that, and you know, and to

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Speaker 4: be honest, I don't feel like they should. Only from

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Speaker 4: the sansets. It sounds biased, but we really at that

723
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Speaker 4: point have a very good understanding of what their needs are,

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Speaker 4: what their house is, how it's going to function.

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Speaker 1: You've been holding hands with them for a bit. Absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Hey, guys, when you go down to the

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Speaker 1: Narra show and you want to talk to Tom, you go

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Speaker 1: to Booth four thirteen MK Design built Booth four thirteen.

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Speaker 1: He'll be there all day tomorrow, but there'll be people there.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Sarah will be there.

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Speaker 4: Sarah will be there today. Yeah, and then I think

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Speaker 4: Michelle's there is today as well.

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Speaker 1: Just one of the most beautiful brides I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in my life. To be able to blessing, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Another thing too is I think about if you're a

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Speaker 2: contractor and I think about moving up the next level,

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Speaker 2: you talk to time about becoming a member.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, it's a great point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because people say, well, you know, they would say, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to join NAIRY because I don't need

741
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Speaker 2: the workers. No, it's it's a different level of work,

742
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Speaker 2: and it's the respect of all your friends. And when

743
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Speaker 2: you go to this ard, you know that you know

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Speaker 2: the other dollars coming up you go towards and you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean you think they're competitors, but they're not. They're

746
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Speaker 2: also they're also you know, and as that when you

747
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Speaker 2: become a member of NAIRY, I mean, these aren't your competitors.

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Speaker 2: It's your support group. They all help each other in

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Speaker 2: this business to keep this and keep their construction. Construction

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Speaker 2: get a bad name for a while and groups like this.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you hire a nairy guy, you know

752
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Speaker 2: you're hiring a contractor. It won't be on contact six.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent one hundred percent. And if you go

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Speaker 1: to the show today, before you go, Michelle Brown and

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Speaker 1: I talked about this a lot last week, you put

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Speaker 1: together he steps to prepare for the show, and you

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Speaker 1: might find that, like what I have to prepare to

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Speaker 1: go to this show? That this is a really good piece.

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Speaker 2: Thisy be like me, I just lose it easy, So,

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Speaker 2: oh this is really cool.

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Speaker 1: And I forget Homer Simpson when you're both we're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at look at that shiny object. Oh no, hold on,

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Speaker 1: you wait, look at that shiny object. Do yourself a favor.

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Speaker 1: Go on the Narry website. It's Narymwaukee dot org and

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Speaker 1: go to the events page and go to the steps

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Speaker 1: to prepare for the home show. And look, even if

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Speaker 1: you just read it quickly, on things that can make

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Speaker 1: this journey that you're going to go on more enjoyable

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Speaker 1: because you're not going to be just flying all over

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Speaker 1: the place. Gives you a really good kind of just

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Speaker 1: here's a couple of things that you're going to be

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Speaker 1: able to completely get everything you want out of this show.

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Speaker 1: If you just take a second to read that or

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Speaker 1: print it and take it with you, we'll continue to

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Speaker 1: talk about this show. Twenty twenty five Homer Remodeling Show

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Speaker 1: at State Fair Park, doors open at ten am to day.

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Speaker 1: Go to Narymwaukee dot org for all the information you

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Speaker 1: need on that show. This is the Creative Construction of

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin home improvement show only on Fox fort nine twenty

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Speaker 1: Getting a little spat here, he say go ahead and

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Speaker 1: yeah that's good. You jump, I'm not jumping. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Creative Construction Wisconsin. I'll pull a hamstring. Creative

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Speaker 1: Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports on twenty

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Speaker 1: Your iHeart Radio app coming from the Donovan to Jorgansen

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Speaker 1: Heating and Cooling Studios. Our special guest. He's a good

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Speaker 1: on tom Geist MK Design Built go to Mkdesign build

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Speaker 1: dot com or better yet, if you're gonna be there

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Speaker 1: tomorrow you get a chance to meet him in person.

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Speaker 1: But go today to meet my friend Sarah. Go go

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Speaker 1: down there and tell her, hey, I heard you. You

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Speaker 1: were the most beautiful bride of all time, And I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you that's a fact. Go to what booth four

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Speaker 1: thirteen is where you got to go? Hey, when people

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Speaker 1: go out of there?

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Speaker 2: You know, Sarah's the reason why I was such a

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Speaker 2: good relationship with Current in the beginning to right too,

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Speaker 2: because yeah, because zach.

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Speaker 1: On and Steve who used to work there. Yeah, one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent. I uh yeah, I love. She's just a

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Speaker 1: really good person. And if she is an ambassador for

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Speaker 1: MK Design, Bill, You're you're in good hand there, there

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Speaker 1: is no doubt. Do not talk to her about high

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Speaker 1: school football to day. Don't do it, you know, I don't,

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Speaker 1: don't do it. Stay away from that. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: you can talk to her about just about anything. Hey, Tom,

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Speaker 1: would people go down to the show of somebody's going

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Speaker 1: down there for the first time? Are there other than

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Speaker 1: than than printed out these steps to prepare for a

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Speaker 1: home show? What what advice would you give somebody to

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Speaker 1: to to be able to to get full what the

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Speaker 1: show offers is so much, but to get the full experience?

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Speaker 1: What would you tell them? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So, I mean I think with any project, in your

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Speaker 4: remodeling project, you know, doing your homework and preparing yourself

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Speaker 4: is is really you know, it's it's your investment, right,

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Speaker 4: and it's your way of protecting your investment.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: So understanding what it is that you're really looking for,

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Speaker 4: really understanding you know, the finance, you know, financial aspect

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Speaker 4: of of you know, what you want to invest into

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Speaker 4: your home and your project, right, and that's something that

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Speaker 4: unfortunately a lot of us we can't really answer that

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Speaker 4: for you, right, Like, we're not we're not your accountant,

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Speaker 4: we're not your you know, finance guy.

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Speaker 5: You know, we don't live in your house.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, we can kind of tell you whether you

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Speaker 4: know it's going to be a worthy investment in your home,

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Speaker 4: you know, just based on the market and things like that.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: you have to figure that out for yourself as far

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Speaker 4: as you know how you're going to afford it, how

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Speaker 4: you're going to do this, and then you know, be

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Speaker 4: prepared also with what your likes and dislikes are, right,

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Speaker 4: And some people may not be able to do that

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Speaker 4: because they have trouble visualizing, you know. But it doesn't

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Speaker 4: necessarily have to be from a design standpoint. It could

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Speaker 4: be functionality, right. It could be that you know, hey,

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Speaker 4: I don't really cook, so that's not really a big

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Speaker 4: priority for me, you know.

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Speaker 5: Or I love to cook and I love to cook

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Speaker 5: for a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: Right, those things are are really important to us as

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Speaker 4: contractors for to be able.

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Speaker 2: To help with Yeah what I'm saying, but just companies

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Speaker 2: like you know, let's say Tom, we're just Bill pick

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Speaker 2: on him because he's in here. Just companies like him

848
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Speaker 2: that says, you know what, we want to do this,

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Speaker 2: but where do we know where to start? We don't

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Speaker 2: know what how to go? And you design build firms

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Speaker 2: that that his company all LEAs started right from the

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Speaker 2: very beginning to like, okay, what do you want to

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Speaker 2: build and what do you want to need at And

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Speaker 2: they're smart enough to know that people live in these

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Speaker 2: homes long enough now, right, so they put the boards

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Speaker 2: in the bathrooms, they make it and say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: how many years are going to live here? So let's

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Speaker 2: design this for that and that. And you know, companies

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Speaker 2: like that they can cater to that.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you always got those companies that can just

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Speaker 2: they'll just build whatever you want, right, But you've got

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Speaker 2: somebody that can actually build for what you really you

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Speaker 2: know you want something, but what what do you really need?

865
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: And that's what they're good at. They're good at designing

866
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: and building for what you need, not just.

867
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: What do you think?

868
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: Well, And I was going to say, like even even

869
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 4: now posts, I mean, we're well pasted it, thank god,

870
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 4: But I mean post pandemic, right, that narrative really changed.

871
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 4: You talked about it earlier about people, you know, using

872
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: their space differently. You know, prior to pandemic, we would

873
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 4: run into people and they say, I want to redo

874
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: my kitchens that I can sell, And I would think

875
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: to myself, why do you.

876
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 5: Want to do that?

877
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: Right, Like you're putting your own stamp on it, building

878
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: this beautiful space. Why don't you want to enjoy it?

879
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 5: Right?

880
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: That idea has changed, right, And a lot of it

881
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: has to do with the market. You know, home values

882
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 4: have gone up. People want to stay in the same

883
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: house that they're in, they want to improve it. But

884
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: we're really excited about that because now they're actually they're

885
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: really putting their own personal touch on it and they're

886
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 4: using the space the way that it's intended.

887
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: Hey, when somebody goes down again and if they go

888
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: to Booth four thirteen today at State Fair Park and Sarah,

889
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: and we keep talking about her, but she's a project

890
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: coordinator coreat what a perfect person to be able to

891
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: talk to about some of the like, Okay, as a

892
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: project coordinator, look timing? What am I looking at? Timing wise?

893
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: How much knowledge you're making? Am I going to hear

894
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: from you guys? Every day? Am I going to know

895
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: when you're coming, when you're not coming? What? And So

896
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: I think to talk to her about working with MKA

897
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: Design build is a really good conversation because you can

898
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of get the weeds a little bit and say, Okay,

899
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: what can I expect from you when it comes to this.

900
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, we love that part of like

901
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 4: that personal relationship that we form with our customers.

902
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Right.

903
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: So it makes me so happy that most of our

904
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: reviews and compliments that we get from our customers, the

905
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: number one thing they say is how nice everybody was,

906
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: how approachable, how easy going they were, how comfortable they

907
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 4: felt with them in their house. Right, And that's by design, right,

908
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: We want people to feel that way because it is

909
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 4: a very intrusive process.

910
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 5: Right.

911
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: We're going in and your swinging hammers and cutting and

912
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: doing all types of things, making noise, making dust, right,

913
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: it can be uncomfortable, but you know, being reassured by

914
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: the people that you're working with it just it makes

915
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: it so much easy.

916
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: Does she stay with it? So if if I were

917
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: to hire you guys, no, no, no, she did. Is

918
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: she's still my contact once you guys start swinging here.

919
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

920
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: So it transitions, honestly, So it transitions from you know,

921
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: our design staff. They'll kind of walk you through, you know,

922
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 4: the selections and picking everything out with you the drawings.

923
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: Right then it actually transitions over to Sarah. Sarah kind

924
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: of helps work with our estimating and then she helps

925
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: Sarah is like all the permitting. She works with all

926
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 4: the subcontractors, getting them in alignment and getting everything organized

927
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 4: prior to the start of the job, pre construction.

928
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: Designed, with the selections, selection process. That's that's the most

929
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: of the most excruciating part. I have no involvement, and

930
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: that was whatever the worst.

931
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 4: There's a lot to this. I mean, it's you don't

932
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 4: think about how much there is it. But I mean

933
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: when you're talking about, oh yeah, because because he's.

934
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: Talked about picting, you know, cupboard handles and stuff like that,

935
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: the worst, right, Yeah, put.

936
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: Me in the fetal position I was.

937
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: I was.

938
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: It was the worst.

939
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: Always telling me what I do is I always say,

940
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: the best thing is you know, give me like two,

941
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: this one or this one?

942
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, I'm okay with three, but but man, yeah,

943
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: a thousand. I am in the fetal position and I

944
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: need I.

945
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: Need look at this catalog. Forget it.

946
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, get it, it's over. I get it to my

947
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: wife and I go, please choose, and I will be

948
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: happy with almost anything that that that you choose. Hey,

949
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: we had talked little bit earlier. When people are in today,

950
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: in today's world, right, people that are coming to this show,

951
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: you'd say, look, it's a wide variety of things. But

952
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: is it are they bigger projects than they used to be?

953
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Or is it is it they want one part of

954
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: their house changed and then they'll come back a year

955
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: to change another one.

956
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 5: I think it's a good mix.

957
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Right.

958
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: So there are still people that are just coming to

959
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: do you know, their kitchen or bathroom, which is great.

960
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 4: We love clients that are really upfront and transparent with us,

961
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 4: where they say, hey, look we have these three projects

962
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: we want to do, and we want to work them

963
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: in over the next handful of years, even ten years, right,

964
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 4: and say okay, great, perfect, Yeah, let's let's get to work.

965
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: Say one of the biggest mistakes that customers will do

966
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: is they'll say some underinflated budget. They'll come up with

967
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: some unrealistic budget. He say, yeah, we don't want to

968
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: spend more in seventeen thousand dollars on a completely model. Well,

969
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose interest over you're talking to. I mean

970
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: you should kind of be honest, because you know, let

971
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: them know what they got to work with, you can

972
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: work with. They're not going to be They're afraid to

973
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 2: say something, Well, I don't want to say sixty thousand

974
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: because is not going to charge my hundred and twenty thousand, right.

975
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: Or spend the whole sixty right? Right? Yeah, yeah.

976
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 4: I mean again, it really depends on your tastes and

977
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: what you pick, right. I mean, we help guide you

978
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: with that, But that's what drives it, right, It's not

979
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 4: it's not anything other than that.

980
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you know it could.

981
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: It could give you job costings of what it actually

982
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 4: costs to have our guys on site and.

983
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 5: That sort of thing.

984
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: But the reality is is that's not what's driving the

985
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: main cost. The main cost is all of these really

986
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: high end finishes that people are selecting, which they fall

987
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: in love with through you know, whether it's social media,

988
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 4: whether it's Pinterest, whether it's you know, seeing it on TV.

989
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: And again they're great, they're awesome, right, and we love

990
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 4: installing those. But you don't have to go that route.

991
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: It's not a necessity. It's sort of a status symbol

992
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: thing that people get sucked into.

993
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get it's like a twelve burner, big Viking thing. Yeah, right,

994
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: when you buy something like that, you understand now you

995
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: got to get makeup. There, there's things, there's qualities.

996
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: It's for costs.

997
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: I come to it as you know, twenty thousand dollars

998
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: stole you got.

999
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: Well, And that's actually another reason why we love people

1000
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 4: that come in and say, hey, these are the projects

1001
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 4: we want to do, right, because the last thing we

1002
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 4: want to do is do a project and then have

1003
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 4: to you know, disrupt that project that we just completed

1004
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 4: maybe a year or two ago, to then do something else. Right,

1005
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: So you want to do a bathroom, well, we're going

1006
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: to look at your pipes and if your pipes need

1007
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 4: to be addressed now so that we don't have to

1008
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 4: tear things open.

1009
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Later, we're going to do that, right, hey, And and

1010
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: things change, right, I mean for a while there because

1011
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: of those TV shows, the barn door thing was was

1012
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: huge and now nobody wants it anymore. And for the

1013
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: people that jumped on it because that was the next

1014
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: cool shiny object, kind of stuck with that for a while. Yeah.

1015
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: The the you know, the big farmers are kitchen the

1016
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: kitchen farm stinks.

1017
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely everybody.

1018
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's still hot or not.

1019
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: It's you know, again, I think that's more of a

1020
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: style thing. I think there's a lot of people that

1021
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: still really enjoy that style and like it. You know,

1022
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: it just depends on what people want, right. I Mean,

1023
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: we we operate, you know, we're just south of downtown

1024
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 4: in Saint Francis. We do a lot of condos on

1025
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 4: the east side, and you know, we work in all

1026
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: types of different traditional styles, modern styles, right, So it

1027
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: really depends on what you're looking for and what your

1028
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 4: space you know, kind of works with. I mean, you're

1029
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 4: not gonna put a farm sink in a brand new modern.

1030
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: House and you brought up condos and that's a whole

1031
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: nother show. Oh yeah, it's a whole another show.

1032
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: And now that I live and when I see that, okay,

1033
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: I text Sam, we got to bring them back. But

1034
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: with Sarah, yeah yes only yeah she doesn't she does

1035
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: it right, but you know what if she wants, but

1036
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: I have pictures. The condo project is a totally separate

1037
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: It's just a whole different animal.

1038
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1039
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 4: So we we jokingly call ourselves the condo contractors sometimes

1040
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: because we get into a building and we have a

1041
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: really good rapport with the management team, and then they

1042
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: just start making referrals for us, and next thing you know,

1043
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: we're in ten twenty units doing different things, and it's

1044
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 4: it's a different project from sense of like, yes, it's residential,

1045
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: but you're really in a commercial building, right, So there's

1046
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 4: there's fire suppression and things that you have to take

1047
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 4: into account that normally you don't see on a residential draft.

1048
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: You know, my wife and I've been in this kind

1049
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: of almost three years now, and the hl A board

1050
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: is up in November and there's some people going, hey,

1051
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's time, and my wife's like, you

1052
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: better think about that. You better think about what you're

1053
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: getting yourself into, because I won't answer the door if

1054
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: people keep bringing the doorbells. So Hey, Tom, it's so

1055
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: good to see you. And if you want to meet

1056
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: him in person or go say hi to him tomorrow

1057
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: at State Fair Park, doors open at ten a quad.

1058
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty five Homer remodeling showed opens today at

1059
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock. Tom will be there tomorrow. Booth four thirteen.

1060
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: Go see the Superheroes that Colonel Electric Booth three forty three.

1061
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: Donovan Jeorgan said, heating cooling against some clients of mine.

1062
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: Booth two thirty one, but four thirteen. Go say hi

1063
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: Sarah today. Go say hi to Tom tomorrow. From MKA

1064
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: Design and Build. Hey Bingo again, congratulations. Twenty twenty five

1065
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: associated the year with NBA. That's a really cool award.

1066
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

1067
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you bet. Dev looked awfully happy in that picture.

1068
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 2: Well no, I keep telling her some days you's gonna

1069
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: like me, because.

1070
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: I ye she she may not like you all the time,

1071
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: but she sure loves you, and I can tell you

1072
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: that firsthand. Say something bad about you behind your back

1073
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: and watch her. Go Tom, it's good to see it,

1074
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: really gat to see you.

1075
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.

1076
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: You got it. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin home

1077
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: at Probit show on Fox Sports nine twenty and your

1078
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,920
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