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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Mann Show. Don't come down, don't

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Speaker 1: make me try. Follow me on Twitter at mark man X.

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Speaker 1: The Athletics says the Steelers have an eighteen percent chance

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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, but they could. They could even

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Speaker 1: But the Steelers have no foundation for excellence, no plan

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Speaker 1: for excellence. They would rather be steady than successful. It's

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Speaker 1: a bad outlook. It's horrific management. It's poor roster assembly,

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Speaker 1: it's rotten coaching. It's a flawed roster with a myriad

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Speaker 1: of holes. It's high priced bozos who don't produce on

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Speaker 2: It's an antiquated approach.

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Speaker 1: And the Steelers might be six and five, but it

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Speaker 1: feels like rock bottom in terms of potential. The Penguins

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Speaker 1: those buffalo tonight. The Penguins have a plan. Don't know

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Speaker 1: how long it's gonna take. Coivenon back in the lineup,

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Speaker 1: Russ is ready to go. Kendall's going to be a scratch,

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Speaker 1: not because of bad plague, that's because of their playing

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Speaker 1: for him as an eighteen year old rookie, and Tristan

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Speaker 1: Jari will be in the net.

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Speaker 2: Looks like morishall is going to go back down.

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Speaker 1: We got Robbie Merchant the River Hans at four point

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Speaker 1: thirty to celebrate the Hands winning the USL Championship. By

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Speaker 1: the way, it's River Hans Night tonight at the Penguin

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Speaker 1: Game Pit hosts Miami for a big game Saturday, which

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Speaker 1: I don't intend on talking about at all between now

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Speaker 1: and then, but if they lose. If they lose, I'll

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Speaker 1: bury him on Monday, because that's the way this show operates.

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Speaker 1: And with the Steelers and Pirates, I mean, what do

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Speaker 1: you say, nothing ever changes. Give the Steelers credit. They

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Speaker 1: brought in one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time

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Speaker 1: and nothing changed. It's still stale. Now that is consistency.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Tommy Radio. Tom This all feels like

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Speaker 1: regurgitation with the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Don't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like the same movie that we've been

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Speaker 3: watching over and over and over again from them, and

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Speaker 3: there is really no hope for change. You brought up

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Speaker 3: eighteen percent chance to make the playoffs. That seems pretty

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Speaker 3: spot on to me. To be honest with you, I

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Speaker 3: think what ten wins probably gets you in comfortably nine wins.

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Speaker 2: You're really starting to sweat some tie breakers.

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Speaker 1: I think this year ten you're a lock is not

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Speaker 1: a lock, but I think ken like ninety percent kitch in.

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Speaker 2: I think nine to eight tenkots.

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Speaker 3: You that's four more wins. They got to scrounge up

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They always play good against Baltimore tome they got except

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Speaker 1: for those last two games.

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Speaker 2: How did those go well?

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Speaker 1: And that's why the Ravens went from three and a

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Speaker 1: half games back in Week six to tide with the

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Speaker 1: Steelers now, because the Steelers got their number, and we

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna be Baltimore not once, but twice. There's

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Speaker 1: a one hundred and forty one and two thirty percent

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Speaker 1: chance of that. No, it's like dumbness one oh one.

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Speaker 1: What the Steelers do, It doesn't work, so they keep

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Speaker 1: doing it. The Steelers are one hundred percent sold on

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Speaker 1: a method that won't ever work.

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Speaker 3: Enough, Like do they think that if they just keep

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Speaker 3: doing this over and over again and stay stubborn in

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Speaker 2: Like they will swing the NFL back to this lag.

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Speaker 2: They can will the NFL back to the sentience in.

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Speaker 1: Acquiescing to their style, that their power which they don't have,

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Speaker 1: that their physicality which they don't have, that their old

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Speaker 1: at some point that will pay off.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they really do believe that.

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Speaker 3: That's so foolish when the league itself is trying to

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Speaker 3: get that kind of out, that style out of the game.

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Speaker 3: Like they want offense, they want less physicality, you know,

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Speaker 3: Everything is geared towards offensive football in that league. To

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Speaker 1: We keep dreaming about getting the right quarterback in the draft,

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Speaker 1: quarterback refuses to come to Pittsburgh. He should refuse. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: is death badly for quarterbacks. If I was near edge quarterback,

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Speaker 3: There's just no way that they would be in a

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Speaker 3: They're never going to be picking number one overall to

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Speaker 1: All you have to say about Tom when not knowing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was a Tom win Pike. He insisted

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Speaker 1: He said, we got our guy, and then Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 1: I mean they failed him, but not as much.

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Speaker 2: As as he feels failed them. He's awful. I mean,

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Speaker 2: look what's happened since he's awful. Kenny Pickett is that

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Speaker 3: I had many sucks. He's terrible in the pros. Kenny

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Speaker 3: Pickett was the one that is definitely at the top

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Speaker 3: of that list. But there's other examples when you look

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Speaker 3: at all the other free agents that they went after.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Mitch Trubisky was a miss. Uh justin Fields

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever blamed the Steelers or Tom went for that.

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Speaker 1: They blamed the guy the quarterback he failed. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just it just makes me puke poke like that

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Speaker 1: just hope Aaron Rodgers will own up to how he

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Speaker 1: big headline. As I've said repeatedly, I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: Bucco note. Ken Rosenthal wrote at The Athletic that if

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Speaker 1: there is a cap with a floor and teams have

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Speaker 1: that that's the one thing that might make Nuttings sell

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Speaker 1: the team him and the Marlins owner. Rosenthal said that

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Speaker 1: they might not, how he put it, they might not

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Speaker 1: I heard the B team talking about that, saying how

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Speaker 1: if he sells the team, it will be to the

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Speaker 1: highest bidder. And ain't nobody in Pittsburgh Pittsburgh connected what

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban my Penis wants to laugh? Ain't nobody going

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Speaker 1: to keep that team in Pittsburgh if Nutting decides to

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Speaker 2: Five ninety x.

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Speaker 1: Peng was hosting Buffalo tonight, third game in a row

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Speaker 1: at home. Penguins look over their first win in that

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Speaker 1: run of home games. You can watch the game at

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Speaker 1: Columbus with me Friday at seven pm at Dino's in Latrobe.

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Speaker 1: And if the boys want to fight, you better let them.

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Speaker 1: Penguins need to win tonight. Can't lose a third straight

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Speaker 1: at home. Buffalo not a great roster, but has won

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Speaker 1: fur out of five. Tage Thompson has scored goals in

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Speaker 1: six straight games. Going to be a tough night. Let's

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Speaker 1: not talk to Tom Offerman. Tom, how can the Penguins

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Speaker 1: in that loss to Seattle on Saturday the ot loss,

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Speaker 1: but as coach Dan Muse noted, it was a loss.

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Speaker 3: I hate to make it sound a simple, but they

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Speaker 3: just need to fill the net more. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: just need to capitalize on their opportunities. They're only averaging

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Speaker 3: one point eight goals over these past five games that

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Speaker 3: those games to the Minnesota while to start this homestand

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Speaker 3: so you know, I think they're getting decent opportunities, the

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Speaker 3: generating good chances. I mean, Mark, they massively outplayed the

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Speaker 1: On Saturday the question News noted, you still got to

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Speaker 1: finish exactly. And that goes for five on five too.

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Speaker 1: Like Clevenan's back in the lineup after being injured, I

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Speaker 1: have five goals, that's pretty good return for an eighteen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the depth needs to start scoring. Malkin and said

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Speaker 3: both scored the goals against the Krack and they aren't

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Speaker 3: a problem. And I mean Sid's line. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I mean was playing there for Heck's sake, and secondary

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Speaker 1: scoring is tough to generate per se. We're going to

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Speaker 2: Uh again, I don't know where that comes from.

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Speaker 1: Kindle the kids, Like I said, Kindle run in tonight

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Speaker 1: Now it's still the number one power play at thirty two,

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Speaker 1: the power play, I'm seeing cracks. And this is a

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Speaker 1: Penguins tradition with the man advantaged tom the better it does,

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Speaker 1: the more they complicate, and the more they manufacture their

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Speaker 3: And I mean, you can't deny Kendall's effect to that

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Speaker 3: power play and how he has helped it become one

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Speaker 3: the best in the NHL to this point. Won't have

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Speaker 3: them tonight on the power play, and I worry moving

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Speaker 2: You've noted this. They'll put Kindle on power play too,

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Speaker 2: so Rakel can slide back to the first You know,

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Speaker 2: I want to hear jump some power play one tonight

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Speaker 2: with Kendle Lott. Who do you think that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who they would use it instead of

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Speaker 3: Kendle because Russ Well rust is on it, but he

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Speaker 3: was sick for the past.

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Speaker 1: Couple of days, but looks he says he's should be back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like may I might put there go to defenseman. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: put la tangle on the left half wall. Why not, right, Carlson,

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Speaker 1: I hate to say, you know it's not bad in

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Speaker 1: the power play.

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Speaker 2: Is Hayes just plug him right in front of the net? Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's best on the on the right half wall,

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Speaker 1: but I mean that Sid geno rotation. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I say my instinct would be to go with theftang.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Now, one good thing is I don't believe Sid's going

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Speaker 1: five on five and a factor with Malkul and maybe

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Speaker 2: Is this season?

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you're asking me this question because it really.

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Speaker 2: Truly makes no sense what the Steelers did.

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Speaker 5: I don't know who made the call, but I don't

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Speaker 5: A broken bone is a week's long injury weeks plural.

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Speaker 5: And Tom's answer was because he can practice more.

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Speaker 1: The fabos one hundred percent right. That was a great rant.

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Speaker 1: What Tomlin said is contradictory and nonsensical. It's double talk.

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Speaker 1: It's what a con man does. Hey, I've been saying

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Speaker 1: The pregame show brought to us play our buddy Shandorovitch,

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Speaker 1: Shandorovich and Fishman, the personal injury experts. But I want

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Speaker 1: to mention there's now a ground swell among Penn State's

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Speaker 1: football players, alumni, nil types, the power brokers. They want

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Speaker 1: They beat Nebraska convencently thirty seven to ten, and I

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Speaker 1: I don't have the same kind of faith in Terry

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Speaker 1: But I just don't think that's a good move if

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Speaker 2: They did a ton of damage to that program.

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Speaker 1: But who give us a rats ass about that when

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Speaker 2: Is your wife cook my wife phone cooking this next

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Speaker 1: Now your trifecta is as everybody hopes to hear and

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving sides correct. These are the three best sides according

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Speaker 3: Number three mashed potatoes, always reliable, big old helping of

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Speaker 3: to Thanksgiving, right Like you have a turkey sandwich elsewhere

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Speaker 3: in the year, you have mashed potatoes with steak, you know,

440
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Speaker 3: in a June night or something like that. But you

441
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Speaker 3: don't get the cranberry sauce or the stuffing unless it's

442
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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Two. Really, I don't really do stuffing on thanks On Christmas.

444
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Speaker 1: I do, okay, and I love stuffing, and it is

445
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Speaker 1: a proper number one choice here, but I only do

446
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Speaker 1: it twice a year, Thanksgiving a Christmas. Although there was

447
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Speaker 1: a period growing up there used to be something called

448
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Speaker 1: stovetop stuffing. Yes, and it wasn't great, but it wasn't bad,

449
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Speaker 1: and that would become in our house growing up, an

450
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Speaker 1: easy side for my grandmother to make or my mom to.

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Speaker 3: Make, no doubt. I mean, it's still a thing you

452
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Speaker 3: can still get. It's easy as hell. It's like a

453
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Speaker 3: pack of you know, the bread crumbs. Throw a stick

454
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Speaker 3: of butter in there with some water and it's good

455
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Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I want to break down stuffing a bit more, though,

458
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Speaker 1: because basic stuffing is the best. It's better if it's

459
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Speaker 1: inside the bird, that's better. Taste Almost any kind is fine.

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Speaker 1: My favorite variable is sausage stuffing, and I've even had

461
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Speaker 1: cheriso stuffing, you know, hot Mexican sausage but you're right,

462
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Speaker 1: sausage is by far a runaway winter Now I would

463
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Speaker 1: put cranberry.

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Speaker 2: Sauce on my list, and here's why.

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Speaker 1: Oh No, to me, it's a side to the side,

466
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Speaker 1: like I put it on turkey a little bit, okay,

467
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Speaker 1: or oh, I have a mouthful of stuffing a mouthful

468
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Speaker 1: of cranberry sauce, okay, so I like it. To me,

469
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Speaker 1: it's a side to the side. I like the homemade

470
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Speaker 1: stuff better than out of the can. Uh Like gravy

471
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Speaker 1: to me is roughly in the same boat as cranberry sauce.

472
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Speaker 1: So I would round out my top three. And by

473
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Speaker 1: the way, desserts are separate. We'll get to that a

474
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Speaker 1: little bit. I guess I would say mashed potatoes grudgingly

475
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Speaker 1: because I'm not the biggest fan with the wake in

476
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Speaker 1: one eighty. I'm I'm picking my poison. I'm with stuffing

477
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Speaker 1: as the exception and not massed potatoes. And here's why

478
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Speaker 1: I rank mashed potatoes clearly below stuffing. And by the way,

479
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Speaker 1: it has to be homemade mashed potatoes, yes, okay, actually

480
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Speaker 1: mashed potato.

481
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Speaker 2: Do you like seeing a little bit of the skins

482
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Speaker 2: in there? No? No, you don't like that, do a

483
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Speaker 2: better job. Well's purpose sometimes who do a better job?

484
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Speaker 1: No, No, I have had mashed potatoes that are like

485
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Speaker 1: that that aren't bad, but not for Thanksgiving. So if

486
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Speaker 1: you're cooking out there, get get the skin out, get

487
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Speaker 1: skin out of the game.

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Speaker 2: I guess is how I would put it.

489
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Speaker 1: I put mashed potatoes a distance second of stuffing, though,

490
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Speaker 1: because it's similar to stuffing but not as good.

491
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Speaker 2: Like the use of gravy.

492
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Speaker 1: It's almost not the same thing, but the same deployment

493
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Speaker 1: to use it tominism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again like you will have many opportunities to

495
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Speaker 3: have mashed potatoes throughout the year. It is a side

496
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Speaker 3: that is very common. Stuffing is unique to this holiday

497
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Speaker 3: season alone. You gotta go with the stuffing now. My

498
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Speaker 3: number three is a tough choice.

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Speaker 1: I would say Brussels sprouts, but it's not indigenous necessarily Thanksgiving,

500
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Speaker 1: but they are underrated in general. And I also I'm

501
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Speaker 1: thinking green bean casserole with onion straws.

502
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Speaker 2: Yes, but here's the thing. I don't like it. I

503
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Speaker 2: don't eat it.

504
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Speaker 1: I just feel better if it's there, Okay, comfortable with it? Yes,

505
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Speaker 1: just let me go off the board. Here is this

506
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Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving item, because if it is, I'll put it

507
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Speaker 1: on their head of both the green bean casserole and

508
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Speaker 1: the Brussels rotts.

509
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Speaker 2: What about Rockley and cheese castle.

510
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that's exactly you know, Thanksgiving indigenous.

511
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Speaker 3: It sounds fantastic. I would love to eat some of that,

512
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Speaker 3: but I don't know if that's, you know, a staple.

513
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Speaker 3: I think the castrole that's the staple on every Thanksgiving

514
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Speaker 3: dinner table is the green being cast role.

515
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Speaker 1: Now, Charlie Batchel, on the podcast he does with Tree Essex,

516
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Speaker 1: made a compelling case for macaroni and cheese. See and

517
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Speaker 1: I love mac and cheese, but is it indigenous to Thanksgiving?

518
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Speaker 2: And Charlie's argument was that more and more it's becoming that.

519
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Speaker 3: I think I agree with Charlie on that that it's

520
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Speaker 3: picking up a lot of steam right now.

521
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Speaker 2: It is such a borderline one.

522
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Speaker 3: I think that it is about to cross the precipice

523
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Speaker 3: though of being a common thing on the table for Thanksgiving.

524
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Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about it, though, Mark.

525
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Speaker 3: I feel like it might be a little bit of overkill.

526
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Speaker 3: I grew up without it, so maybe change is making

527
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Speaker 3: me uncomfortable.

528
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Speaker 2: I think it is overkilled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I have one exception to my awakened

530
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Speaker 1: one of the guidelines. That will be the stuffing and desserts, unfortunately,

531
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Speaker 1: because I can't resist those. Yeah, but how just lose

532
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Speaker 1: it back? I went to Liverpool, gained four pounds, lost

533
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Speaker 1: it back. You gotta you gotta gotta know when to

534
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Speaker 1: pick your spot. Sorry, awaken one eighty, But but you've

535
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Speaker 1: helped me lose. I think it's thirty four thirty four

536
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Speaker 1: pounds and that's an under two months now.

537
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Speaker 2: You can't eat these, but I think a good dinner

538
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Speaker 2: roll too is very key. Okay, let me let me

539
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Speaker 2: you're right.

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Speaker 1: Roles are aren't necessary, yes, brand, because you've got you

541
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Speaker 1: need them to soak up whatever without question, whether it's.

542
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Speaker 2: Gravy, whatever's left on the plate. You used the roll,

543
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Speaker 2: soap it end of the role. Yeah. Now what would

544
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Speaker 2: you rather have though, rolls or biscuits. I do love

545
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Speaker 2: me some biscuits.

546
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, in a vacuum, I'd rather have biscuits.

547
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Speaker 2: On Thanksgiving that rolls are better for the soaking on Thanksgiving.

548
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Speaker 3: I think I agree with that. On Thanksgiving. The other

549
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Speaker 3: thing I like to do with a role. You know

550
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Speaker 3: those little like square butters that you get on Thanksgiving

551
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Speaker 3: that are out on the table.

552
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Speaker 2: You just cut it open, but the little butter pats.

553
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Speaker 3: I cut it open like pac Man the Role and

554
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Speaker 3: just put the butter pat right in the middle of it.

555
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Speaker 2: I feel that that's too crappy restauranty. I love it. Well,

556
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Speaker 2: some have taste. Some dun't corn.

557
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Speaker 7: Big corn guy on the table, just like a see

558
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Speaker 7: more peas peas that's not indigenous vegetable though now here's

559
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Speaker 7: something is indigenous we've not mentioned, but it's not on

560
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Speaker 7: my list, not even close, because I don't like them.

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Speaker 3: Yams and sweet potatoes, agreed. I don't like them either,

562
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Speaker 3: but they are such a staple. I mean some people

563
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Speaker 3: have them. Probably if they were making their trifecta, that

564
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Speaker 3: would be people's number one.

565
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Speaker 1: I bet you know who made great yams special recipe

566
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Speaker 1: Kitty Foreman on that seventy Grand Foreman always looked forward

567
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Speaker 1: to the yams.

568
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: But I forget who, probably Eric.

569
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Speaker 1: Maybe it was uh, maybe it was the daughter that

570
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: like bang Kelso and ruined Thanksgiving.

571
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Speaker 2: I forget what it is getting marshmallows on them right

572
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: like a little no well, no, here's the thing.

573
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Speaker 1: If you want marshmallows, feel free, because I'm not going

574
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: to eat them either way.

575
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: The yams right, the sweet potatoes right, but I see

576
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: marshmallows on him. Sometimes it's a popular choice.

577
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So if we had a consensus list, it would

578
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Speaker 1: probably be stuffing one, mashed potatoes two, and we have

579
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Speaker 1: to pick.

580
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: I can sacrifice cranberry sauce if we want to just

581
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: throw the green bean casserole on there.

582
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: Okay, No, I'm gonna put cranberry. I'm gonna agree with

583
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: your list in total because cranberry sauce. I still think

584
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: it's a side to the sides, but I also think

585
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: it's indispensable. Like I would not like it if I

586
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: didn't have the cranberry sauce to eat, Whereas if you

587
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: remove the green bean cast role, like I said, I

588
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: like seeing it, but I wouldn't mis eating it.

589
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: No, I got you on that, and I like with me,

590
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: I'm more of cranberry sauce is more than just the

591
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 3: side to the side to me, Like I'll get like

592
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Speaker 3: two big things of the jello like circles on my

593
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Speaker 3: plate and just scoop those down, So that is more

594
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Speaker 3: of a side traditionally to me.

595
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll be.

596
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Speaker 1: Talking about this with Charlie when he joins the show

597
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Speaker 1: at four, because I gotta be honest.

598
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Speaker 2: In a vacuum, he's Friday, so he'll be the recap Friday. Yeah,

599
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: he's the thing. He can recaps. Right now, I forgot.

600
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm already.

601
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Speaker 1: I'm actually putting way more effort into this show than

602
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Speaker 1: I thought I but I didn't, you know, because it

603
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Speaker 1: feels like Friday. That's why I said we'll talk to

604
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Speaker 1: Charlie later. We will, just just a couple of days later.

605
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: But now in a vacuum, which is a phrase I

606
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: use way too much. If it wasn't Thanksgiving, I could

607
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Speaker 1: pick three items. Mac and cheese would be third, like

608
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: sausage mac and cheese or uh, oh my god, lobster

609
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: mac and cheese. Had that buffalo chicken mac and cheese.

610
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, there's some place where do I go? Is it?

611
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Speaker 2: Poor Riches and Wexford wife had someplace?

612
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Speaker 1: But I don't eat mac. I mean, I'm tired of

613
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: talking about food I can't eat. Now I'm getting pissed.

614
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: We even did this segment.

615
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Speaker 3: Now, gravy, are you a smother of the entire plate

616
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: full of gravy, the turkey, the stuff and the potatoes.

617
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: Everything gets hit with it. Or do you pick your

618
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: spots not smother, But there's gravy on everything. The potatoes

619
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Speaker 1: especially got to do like the reservoir of gravy.

620
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Speaker 2: Without question, the spoon indentation on top too deep, not

621
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Speaker 2: too deep. I don't smother any of it.

622
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Speaker 1: And I do like I said, I will take a

623
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Speaker 1: slice of turkey and put cranberry sauce on it, or

624
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Speaker 1: eat the turkey with the mouthful of cranberry sauce.

625
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you like the Such a great thing about a

626
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day plate is that when that food touches each other,

627
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: it all works right. Like if you get a scoop

628
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: of stuffing with a little bit of mashed potatoes on it,

629
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Speaker 3: and oh there's some cranberry sauce on there too, it

630
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: goes in your mouth and it all just plays together

631
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: so beautifully. That's why there's so many subs, right that

632
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: just have all of the ingredients just thrown onto a

633
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: piece of bread and you can eat it.

634
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just such a good compliment.

635
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Speaker 1: The leftovers, leftovers for the plate of turkey, stuffing and

636
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: mass potatoes with cranberry such.

637
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Speaker 2: That's the basic.

638
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: But what about turkey and stuffing in a sandwich like

639
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: the Pilgrim only made it home with Like Ross Geller

640
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: said on Friends, remember his famous Thanksgiving sandwich? It had

641
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of gravy. I think he called it

642
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: a sealer. I forget what did what did he call?

643
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Speaker 2: Fan? Never watched it? If you ever had insomny, you'd

644
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: be a Friends fan. I watched that stuff all nights

645
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: on all the time.

646
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I did, I remember, I said on the

647
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Speaker 1: show one time, between TBS and Nicked Knight both, there's

648
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Speaker 1: two Nicked Knights, Nicked Knight, Niked Knight two. You could

649
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Speaker 1: watch the entire run of Friends inside of a week

650
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: if the episodes hit right.

651
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: That's how Yeah. Yeah, but now how about dessert? Where

652
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: do you weigh in on dessert?

653
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: Big pumpkin pie guy, I mean, that's at the top

654
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Speaker 3: of the list for me. Is it still acceptable to

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Speaker 3: have like a pumpkin roll? Is it a little late

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Speaker 3: in the season for that? No, I think it's acceptable.

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Speaker 3: Pumpkin roll is pretty good too, But I go pipe pumpkin.

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Speaker 1: But pumpkin pie first. Pumpkin rolls in there I got

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Speaker 1: for where I'm going. Uh a ho ho roll? Now

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Speaker 1: they were in the refrigerator here, you saw them? Did

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Speaker 1: you take one?

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Speaker 2: I didn't take one. Now you took one, though, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I took one.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a hostess ho ho, like the roll up

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Speaker 1: of cream inside of cake. It doesn't have like the

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Speaker 1: like the icing though, like the would you call that crust?

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Speaker 1: What would you call that on a ho ho?

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Speaker 2: The icing?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know what you mean. Like the crust, the

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Speaker 3: chocolate crust on the outside of the cake.

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Speaker 2: Is that fund on? Is that the correct term for that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: The cream on the inside is a little different, I

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Speaker 3: think on these homemade ho hos, right, Like, it's not

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Speaker 3: exactly like that icing that you have in a hoo.

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Speaker 2: It's more like a whip cream, isn't it, Like I think?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it looks really good. Yeah. So, and then

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Speaker 2: you're gonna tell people you made it yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And and you also have to have whipped cream

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Speaker 1: on everything. Okay, ice cream is overkill at Thanksgiving? You

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Speaker 1: think I'm okay with pie.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm okay with alamode pie.

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Speaker 1: It's pump If it's apple pie, that's my sleeper Here's

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Speaker 1: what I have for dessert, because I'm bringing the dessert

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Speaker 1: the ho ho roll, pumpkin pie, Dutch apple pie with

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Speaker 1: the crumbs on top.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's huge. No chocolate pie, you fan of chocolate pie,

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Speaker 2: No I am, but none for this time. I make

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Speaker 2: a pecan pie as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a huge pecan pie guy. I'm not

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Speaker 3: a huge apple pie guy, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: Pumpkin pie in this case pumpkin And then I like

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Speaker 3: cookies out on the table too, right, just something you know,

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Speaker 3: like maybe some sugar cookies overkill.

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Speaker 1: Here is the ross Geller turkey sand which he called

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Speaker 1: it the moistmaker. That's what I was thinking of. Three

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Speaker 1: slices of bread. The middle slice is soaked in gravy.

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Speaker 1: That's the moistmaker. Uh, leftover turkey stuffing, mayonnaise optional.

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Speaker 2: What is optional?

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Speaker 3: So like he's talking about, like you take a piece

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Speaker 3: of bread and you dip it, you submerge it.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: The way we call it, you take like a knife

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Speaker 1: and spread you spread it on so it's thoroughly.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking you just soak it in it, No,

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Speaker 2: then it would drip. It's the moistmaker.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see the sandwich because one of his coworkers

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Speaker 1: stole it out of the refrigerator.

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Speaker 2: Ross went crazy, Classic friends trope.

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Speaker 1: Now, one thing real quick. Did your neighbor have a

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Speaker 1: Turkey Bowl football game? And was a touch or tackle?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We played tackle football.

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Speaker 3: I probably played all the way, played all the way

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Speaker 3: through high school, maybe a little bit in.

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Speaker 2: College, but yeah, I did a little bit into college.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt the tackle football for sure. But once

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Speaker 3: you get to that point in college, Mark, You're just like,

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Speaker 3: I can't play tackle anymore, right, Like it's over.

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Speaker 2: I forget that.

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Speaker 1: We kept time. I think we just kept playing until

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Speaker 1: we decided it would rather drink beer.

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Speaker 3: Either that or you just like picked like first one

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Speaker 3: to you know, ten touchdowns or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Now we had one, because every playground football game is

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Speaker 1: going to.

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Speaker 2: Be all passing, right, No, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: But we had one. This is my most memorable Turkey

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Speaker 1: Bowl one year. This was in Reserve Tounship. This was

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Speaker 1: at Reserve Field where the Great School was and is.

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Speaker 1: We sometimes played him with this smaller field cal the

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Speaker 1: little field, but this was a big turnout. We had

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Speaker 1: this one kid, Eddie Basic, who was stocking tough, and

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Speaker 1: he was on my team. Our game plans would just

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Speaker 1: keep handing him the ball like no passing it, all,

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Speaker 1: handing him the ball because tackling him was painful, and

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Speaker 1: he loved it, and he busted up the other team.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether he was like Jim Brown of

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Speaker 1: Reserve Township or Godzilla through Tokyo. It was just like

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Speaker 1: I remember somebody watching the game where it was a

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Speaker 1: grower of it called it disgusting. So we just kept

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Speaker 1: doing it and we won. And at the end, because

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Speaker 1: this was clearly my idea, nobody else would be super genius,

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Speaker 1: right exactly, the other team threw me in interception because

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Speaker 1: they were all going to tackle me. I just batted

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Speaker 1: it dom as they get nice, try get that. We

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Speaker 1: crap out of here, and they should have hit me anyway,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because the ball was right there,

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Speaker 1: but I confused him, or to be fair, that did

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Speaker 1: show a degree of being pusillanimous on my part.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, But the game was won. He won the game.

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Speaker 2: That's all that matters.

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Speaker 3: You should should treated you too, like the ref and

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Speaker 3: the remake of the Longest Yards Alan Covert character, when

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Speaker 3: Adam Sandler just drills him in the nuts a couple

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Speaker 3: of times.

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Speaker 1: Well, in the interest of being pucillanimous, I played pretty

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Speaker 1: far off the line, what oh five ninety x