Speaker 1: All right back with Eddie and Rocky and rock News
Speaker 1: announced on the Western Hills Viaduct, a project that I've
Speaker 1: lived here longer than I've lived here, longer than you've
Speaker 1: lived here, and I'm and I'm not from here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. It's like the Brent Spence
Speaker 1: since I moved here forty six years ago, I did
Speaker 1: the bridge. Gotta fix the bridge. You gotta fix the bridge.
Speaker 1: You got to fix the viaduct, you gotta fix the nothing, nothing,
Speaker 1: And now they're going to half asset.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna happen, but not in the way that
Speaker 2: I think everybody envisioned it. So I guess maybe some
Speaker 2: some good news bad news.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk to a woman who wrote about it
Speaker 1: today in the Inquirer Cincinnati dot Com. Our good friend,
Speaker 1: Patricia Gallagher Newberry, And Patty, what is the latest on
Speaker 1: these things? Because of inflation and I had kind of
Speaker 1: loss the building material right lingering around for so long?
Speaker 1: What are we talking about here?
Speaker 3: I started writing about this bridge in twenty twenty two
Speaker 3: and learned that it's been considered functionally obsolete since two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven. Anybody who drives on the Western Hills
Speaker 3: viadec knows it's in some amount of disrepair, and occasionally,
Speaker 3: you know, you look up and you might see some
Speaker 3: falling chunks of concrete. Year it's been two years since
Speaker 3: anything big has fallen off. But of course they have
Speaker 3: a lot of netting up there now to catch between
Speaker 3: the top deck and the bottom. So the latest on this,
Speaker 3: according to city officials, is that they're going to shrink
Speaker 3: the footprint just a bit because of costs anticipated costs.
Speaker 4: It was going to be.
Speaker 3: Four lanes in each direction going over from seventy five
Speaker 3: to the west side, over the big Queen's Gate rail yard,
Speaker 3: and now it's going to be three lanes in each direction. Instead,
Speaker 3: there were going to be paths on both the north
Speaker 3: side and the south side of the new structure. Now
Speaker 3: there's just going to be a south side passage, not
Speaker 3: the north side.
Speaker 5: Both of those.
Speaker 3: Things will save some amount of cost, but city officials
Speaker 3: either don't know or we're not yet ready to make
Speaker 3: public how much it's going to cost. The last figure
Speaker 3: was three hundred and ninety eight million, but that's going
Speaker 3: back now, you know, three four years, and it was
Speaker 3: already the second estimate. So it's definitely going to be
Speaker 3: more than that. I certainly can't venture a guess, and
Speaker 3: if city officials aren't willing to say it, I'm certainly
Speaker 3: not going to jump out there.
Speaker 1: But it's going to cost.
Speaker 3: More and it's going to be a little more narrow
Speaker 3: than anticipated.
Speaker 2: Patty, just share with the listeners where all the money,
Speaker 2: the three hundred ninety eight million and growing. Where's that
Speaker 2: exactly come from? A local, state, federal combination.
Speaker 5: It's a combination. Yeah, it's a combination.
Speaker 3: And we we didn't publish it today, but we had
Speaker 3: published some charts earlier showing, you.
Speaker 5: Know, dot O DOT is a contributor.
Speaker 3: The Federal Transportation Authority is a big is you know,
Speaker 3: a contributor as the City of Cincinnati. And then they
Speaker 3: do have two more chunks of money coming in. One
Speaker 3: is six million that they just secured via OKI, which
Speaker 3: your listeners might know is the Ohio Kentucky, Indiana Regional
Speaker 3: Council of Governments, which funnels federal money.
Speaker 5: So that's six million.
Speaker 3: And then they've just applied for and are waiting to
Speaker 3: hear from another big hunk from the state of Ohio
Speaker 3: to the tune of fifty million. They already had twenty
Speaker 3: five million from the state of Ohio secured, so another
Speaker 3: fifty on top of that. Now, is that going to mean,
Speaker 3: you know, we should just add fifty six million to
Speaker 3: the last price.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but but that's where it stands at
Speaker 5: this time in terms of the funding.
Speaker 1: Patricia Gallagher Newberry from the Inquirer Cincinnatia dot com with
Speaker 1: us and so, Patty, the plan is to build this
Speaker 1: beside the current viaduct and then tear the viaduct down.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm reading, Is that right?
Speaker 3: That that is correct, and that's been the plan all along.
Speaker 3: So it'll be just south and fifty miles excuse me.
Speaker 1: So it'll be and somewhere in Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty feet south of the the new one will
Speaker 3: go up and then when it's done, which will be
Speaker 3: twenty thirty one is what they're saying, then the old
Speaker 3: one will come down in its one hundredth year centennial
Speaker 3: and last birthday that the old viaduct celebrates, so it'll
Speaker 3: be imploded when the new one is up and operational
Speaker 3: and tied in at both ends seventy five and then
Speaker 3: to west side streets.
Speaker 2: So that's exactly what's gonna happen with the Brent Spensbridge.
Speaker 2: You're gonna build one right next to it and then
Speaker 2: tear down the old structure, so so very similar.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no correction, both
Speaker 3: the Brent Spence stays it becomes the local okay, okay, connects, yeah,
Speaker 3: connects into Cincinnati and into Covington.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: And then the brand the brand new companion bridge that
Speaker 3: doesn't have a name yet will be built to its
Speaker 3: immediate west and it will become the I seventy five
Speaker 3: seventy one bridge, so it'll be the interstate passage, the
Speaker 3: new one, gotcha, and that one, that one they should
Speaker 3: have shovel in the water. Next year we'll start to
Speaker 3: see some actual you know, cranes and pylons and so forth,
Speaker 3: good in the Ohio River.
Speaker 1: That yeah, I think situation is going to be fun.
Speaker 1: That will be fun. But no, thanks for clarifying that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the the old viaduct will will come down
Speaker 2: and for for the viaduct shovels in the ground when.
Speaker 3: Next year they'll be doing found work and that's going
Speaker 3: to take through twenty twenty eight, so you won't see
Speaker 3: any you know, deck work going up on the new
Speaker 3: one until twenty twenty eight, and then that'll take about
Speaker 3: three years for completion.
Speaker 1: All right, with the with that pet what again? It's
Speaker 1: are people upset about this or were people ready to
Speaker 1: make concessions anyway? Just get something done, just to get
Speaker 1: something done, because like groc and I were talking and
Speaker 1: Willie was talking about it, it seems like every project
Speaker 1: that comes around in the city, it somehow gets around
Speaker 1: it being kind of half assed at the end of
Speaker 1: the day.
Speaker 5: Well, those are your words, not mine.
Speaker 1: I know that's my words for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just say, you know, I haven't I haven't
Speaker 3: actually talked to any commuters on this latest change. But
Speaker 3: I think the city is just accepting the reality is
Speaker 3: the price of materials, the price of labor have gone up,
Speaker 3: so we want the thing.
Speaker 5: To be built. You know, I asked, is this thing
Speaker 5: gonna fly? Is it going to happen? Is it going
Speaker 5: to be delayed?
Speaker 3: And they're, you know, they're very resolute that it's going forward,
Speaker 3: and that the way to go forward is to you know,
Speaker 3: right size it or downsize it a bit so that
Speaker 3: they can match the dollars they have to what it's
Speaker 3: actually going to cost.
Speaker 5: And get it done.
Speaker 2: So all right, well, Patty, great stuff. I really appreciate
Speaker 2: you laying this out for us.
Speaker 1: You bet you to take care, take care, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Batricia Gallagher and Newberry from The Inquirer since ninety dot com.
Speaker 1: And you know, I look, it's a it's kind of
Speaker 1: a turn of a phrase, half ast but I know,
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I can't get why she she wouldn't
Speaker 1: want me to put those words in her mouth because
Speaker 1: she's a reporter. But right, it kind of doesn't that
Speaker 1: always see in that way? Yeah, yeah, it does, Yeah
Speaker 1: it does. And look, it always goes that way.
Speaker 2: It's never like you know what we're able to you know,
Speaker 2: with the same amount of funds, we're able to reach
Speaker 2: out to some different contractors and we're able to get
Speaker 2: more then we normally that that never happens, right, especially
Speaker 2: when it comes comes to government. So I mean, this
Speaker 2: is usually the way it goes because well we wanted
Speaker 2: to you know, have all you.
Speaker 1: Know, gold plated you know, roadways, but that's not gonna
Speaker 1: happen now. But look at it, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: the same with the banks, and it seems the same
Speaker 1: with Great American Ballpark and even to a certain degree,
Speaker 1: pay Corps and all that stuff. It just seems like,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, granted, I know it sounds like nothing.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could save a quarter million dollars here, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah by doing this. Well, you know what, look
Speaker 1: at these other stadiums in the other cities. Granted, Vegas
Speaker 1: has a lot of money, so does LA I get it,
Speaker 1: But can't we sometimes just put a little extra, just
Speaker 1: a little kick into it and go, damn am nice,
Speaker 1: that's nice, No to be, it's adequate.
Speaker 2: On a completely different note here, obviously, we've been talking
Speaker 2: about the big news that the Sex Elder game that
Speaker 2: was scheduled for Mason High School this weekend. You know,
Speaker 2: lots of folks Willie myself very vocal byt let's move
Speaker 2: that thing to pay Corps and do it right. Officially
Speaker 2: came down and that's what's going to happen now. Someone
Speaker 2: who was really integral in making this happen, and I
Speaker 2: talked to her, Denise Treehouse, and she just released a
Speaker 2: statement quote, there will be a once in a lifetime
Speaker 2: opportunity for so many young men who take the field
Speaker 2: Friday night. Pay Corp is a publicly owned stadium and
Speaker 2: it only makes sense that the public should be able
Speaker 2: to access it for big events like Elder versus Sex.
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for Katie Blackburn and the Bengals organization and
Speaker 2: partnering to make this happen. This is one of my
Speaker 2: main points in our recent lease negotiations. Hopefully it's indicative
Speaker 2: of many similar events to come. So again, that's a
Speaker 2: statement from Denise tree House and I definitely want to
Speaker 2: reach out and say thank you to Commissioner dree House
Speaker 2: for really pushing.
Speaker 1: That getting that thing done. Job, well done, awesome. Coming up,
Speaker 1: we got traffick in weather what is going on? Talking
Speaker 1: to Petty Newbery from the Inquirer, and we were talking
Speaker 1: about how everything tends to be half assed these days.
Speaker 1: No offense to our friends at the Cincinnati Bengal or
Speaker 1: what the Bengals or the Reds, but the Reds we
Speaker 1: are the home with the rest by the way.
Speaker 6: And uh.
Speaker 1: But I was always kind of all right, you build
Speaker 1: a ballpark, but you go to some of the I've
Speaker 1: been to other ballparks and they're beautiful, and I would say,
Speaker 1: and again, I get it, it's a lot of money,
Speaker 1: but can't we one day around here build something that's
Speaker 1: built to last for one hundred years. I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 1: and make it cool and classic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess you know, it comes down the
Speaker 2: money and that you know, do do people want their
Speaker 2: levies raised and taxes raised and all that. But but
Speaker 2: I just say, in general, you and I were talking
Speaker 2: during the break, it's like, there's no buildings that are
Speaker 2: built like that, just are just top top notch, like
Speaker 2: both functionally and esthetically. And I think the only place
Speaker 2: that you see those kind of buildings building anymore, I
Speaker 2: feel like, are on college campuses, right because because they
Speaker 2: can go to a donor and say, look, you know
Speaker 2: this building is gonna have your name on it, right.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we need thirty million bucks.
Speaker 2: And that thing is is built to survive a nuclear
Speaker 2: bomb and looks unbelievable brick and the whole ornate everything.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of buildings these days are just
Speaker 2: office buildings.
Speaker 1: Are you know, just glass boxes?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, And that's what we were talking about.
Speaker 2: The it does make you wonder, just like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: mean throughout all of history there's needed to be some
Speaker 2: amount of public money that goes in.
Speaker 1: How come they could be done then?
Speaker 2: Or you know, even fifty years ago, and it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like they're done like that anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you had to work with what you
Speaker 1: had forrest building materials went right, and they only had
Speaker 1: stone and maybe that's part.
Speaker 2: Of it too, But now there's all these other but
Speaker 2: everything's like it's like this space age material and it's
Speaker 2: fireproof and okay, which is great, but you know, but.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the Empire State Building, for instance,
Speaker 1: how much would that cost to build today?
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then the building go up like like like
Speaker 7: under the time they they thought it would under budget,
Speaker 7: like the whole thing that would never happen again, Like yeah,
Speaker 7: we're just talking about the viaduct skyrocketing costs.
Speaker 1: You got to cut it, cut this, cut back, make
Speaker 1: it three lanes at A four. And the Empire State
Speaker 1: Building built in the early thirties that took that thing
Speaker 1: took a hit from a I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was I forget if it was a B fifty. It
Speaker 1: was a big airplane that hit the Empire State Building
Speaker 1: square in more or less the middle. Fine, okay, it
Speaker 1: took out a floor. Really, I did not know that story.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Look it up. Really yeah, huh, hadn't
Speaker 1: been up very long, and this plane wasn't a terrorist attack.
Speaker 1: I don't know if a guy got lost in the fog.
Speaker 1: I forget what the story is. Just smack right into
Speaker 1: its back, right into it. Wow, and uh yeah it's
Speaker 1: still standing. Yeah, it makes you wonder. Well.
Speaker 2: I think one of the things is regulations. You know,
Speaker 2: back then day had when the Empire state buildings, they
Speaker 2: had guys up there, no harnesses, just walking around.
Speaker 1: You know, you see those old pictures of those guys
Speaker 1: out there, they're literally ninety floors up just walking around
Speaker 1: to eating a ham sandwich, just going about there.
Speaker 2: Is Now there's got to be you know, this safety measure,
Speaker 2: this harness, this hook, this, can't do this, can't do that,
Speaker 2: can't do it on this day. I guess all that
Speaker 2: from what builders say, all that red tape just adds
Speaker 2: to the cost.
Speaker 1: Well, coming up, put on your safety harness. Because we're
Speaker 1: going to be talking to the Queen. Now there may
Speaker 1: be a punting situation.
Speaker 2: You might have to we're trying to get a commissioner
Speaker 2: Jreehouse to come on and talk about the venue change.
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, you will be listening to a powerful woman
Speaker 2: of the tri State after the.
Speaker 1: News right now seven hundred WLW, the Elder.
Speaker 2: Playoff game has in fact been moved from Mason down
Speaker 2: the pay Court Stadium. And you know something Willie and
Speaker 2: I were kind of pushing hard for. But someone who
Speaker 2: deserves a lot of the credit and making this happen
Speaker 2: is Hamilon County Commissioner Denise Dreehouse. And she joins us
Speaker 2: right now. Commissioner Dreehouse, how are you.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm in a good mood.
Speaker 4: Yes, let me can.
Speaker 8: I just say though, that it took Willie reaching out
Speaker 8: to me to put it on my radar, so you know,
Speaker 8: I wasn't in the loop on this, and so when
Speaker 8: he told me what was going on, I was like,
Speaker 8: oh wait a minute. And so so I appreciates credit,
Speaker 8: but credit where credits due. I mean the impetus came
Speaker 8: from Willy Cunningham.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so explain the machinations going on here? Denise? Where
Speaker 1: did you go once you had this information?
Speaker 8: So talk to Willie a little bit about it. I'm
Speaker 8: familiar with Elder and as it's going to Dentilly and
Speaker 8: what a big rivalry this is. And so I said,
Speaker 8: oh my gosh, we should so have this down at
Speaker 8: pay Corps and so I called Katie Blackburn and said, hey,
Speaker 8: we had been talking through the least the lease we
Speaker 8: just signed about having high school football games at pay
Speaker 8: Corpse Stadium, and we were thinking, yeah, we'll work all
Speaker 8: that out next year, have a model that we can
Speaker 8: you know, sort through. And it just came sooner than later,
Speaker 8: that's all. And Katie said, well, yeah, let's see if
Speaker 8: we can make it happen. And so she and her
Speaker 8: team reached out to the O H SAA and said, hey,
Speaker 8: we've got the capacity down here, we think, you know,
Speaker 8: we're open to this. Would you think about moving it
Speaker 8: because I'm hearing horror stories right at these schools where
Speaker 8: that the students can't get tickets, the parents can't get tickets,
Speaker 8: the teachers can't get tickets, and so we just they
Speaker 8: took us from there. But the Bengals did a lot
Speaker 8: of the groundwork here and then finally got in okay,
Speaker 8: And then it took you know, the County Commission to say.
Speaker 4: Ye to it as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the issue a lot of folks
Speaker 2: that it reached out to me and you know, we're
Speaker 2: kind of screaming, look, you know, nothing against Mason High School.
Speaker 1: Great place.
Speaker 2: But since it's about you know, six thousand people, and
Speaker 2: you go to just your average regular season Elder game
Speaker 2: and there's eight ten thousand people. You go to your
Speaker 2: average regular season, say next game, there's eight ten thousand
Speaker 2: people at that thing.
Speaker 1: So it just it's crazy.
Speaker 2: And you know, they released the tickets during school hours,
Speaker 2: so a lot of the students, who yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: you want the students to be at the game. That's
Speaker 2: the lifeblood of high school football is having the you know,
Speaker 2: the kids there and stuff. So I guess, I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean talk about some of the other I guess
Speaker 2: hurdles that had to.
Speaker 1: Be you know, kind of overcome here to make this
Speaker 1: happen to.
Speaker 8: These well there there Actually there's quite a bit to
Speaker 8: it when you talk about the personnel that needs to
Speaker 8: be down there at the safety of the stadium, you know,
Speaker 8: opening that thing up on a day that you didn't anticipate.
Speaker 8: Remember the Beangals are in town on Sunday, so that's
Speaker 8: a quick turnaround for them. We can do it, but
Speaker 8: it's no small task to turn that around. So they
Speaker 8: worked well with us. They had to run through all
Speaker 8: that they were working last night through the night trying
Speaker 8: to figure out whether or not they could pull it
Speaker 8: off for Friday. And then I heard from Katie this
Speaker 8: morning and she said, yep, she said, we can do it.
Speaker 8: We just need the nod FROMHSAA. And then that came,
Speaker 8: and then we had to get approval from the county
Speaker 8: commissioners and so that came, and it's like, so everything
Speaker 8: just kind of fell into place. But you know, hopefully
Speaker 8: this will serve as a model as we move into
Speaker 8: next year and we get more aggressive about being on
Speaker 8: the radar WITHSAA. I don't want to do this this
Speaker 8: way next time, right. I want to be on the
Speaker 8: radar and have them thinking through oh wait a minute,
Speaker 8: pay course and option. Why don't we have some of
Speaker 8: our games down there? Because I want this to be
Speaker 8: open to any high school team that you know in
Speaker 8: this kind of game. I mean, this is exciting stuff
Speaker 8: for the community and by the way, the taxpayers on
Speaker 8: the stadium, and so I think we should let them
Speaker 8: use it.
Speaker 2: And look, when you're talking about the regional finals every year,
Speaker 2: it's going to be one or multiple of these schools.
Speaker 2: It's going to be Saint Axe is gonna be Outer,
Speaker 2: It's going to be Molder. It's going to be you know,
Speaker 2: it could be Leasal, could be La Cota West. You know,
Speaker 2: I mean you you're talking about some and others I
Speaker 2: haven't mentioned, but you're talking all big time fan bases.
Speaker 2: So I mean, no matter who of a bunch of
Speaker 2: like say a group of ten teams, any one of
Speaker 2: those are going to bring a big fan base. So
Speaker 2: it just makes sense to just let's make this precedent
Speaker 2: set right now that the regional finals are going to
Speaker 2: be held to pay for it.
Speaker 1: That'd be great.
Speaker 8: I think that'd be great too, but that's not my decision.
Speaker 1: To make right right.
Speaker 8: But here we are right doing this setting a precedent.
Speaker 8: You know, this is again this is the first four
Speaker 8: a because commissioners have said, we said all along we
Speaker 8: want to bring more concerts and football games into this facility.
Speaker 8: So here we are right, and it's and it's quicker
Speaker 8: than we anticipated. But let's get this right. Let's figure
Speaker 8: out all the details, and then next year will be
Speaker 8: set and ready to go to you know, try to
Speaker 8: promote this pay course sitium for some more of these games.
Speaker 1: County Commissioner Denise Treehouses our guest and Denise So who
Speaker 1: I don't know understand, not that it matter, just one
Speaker 1: of those behind the scenes thing that I was thinking about,
Speaker 1: who who staffs or who staffs the stadium on a
Speaker 1: on a night like this. Do the Bengals supply the
Speaker 1: staff does the county? How does that work? I have
Speaker 1: no idea.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Bengals manage all of that. And so this
Speaker 8: is why it was so important that they reach out
Speaker 8: to OHSAA, because you know, there are those kinds of
Speaker 8: technical questions on what do you need, what do we
Speaker 8: need to open up? How many people do we need
Speaker 8: in there? And so it was critical that the Bengals
Speaker 8: do that outreach, which they happily did because they're excited
Speaker 8: about this too. And so you know, it hasn't always
Speaker 8: been this kind of relationship with the Bengals, the Bengals
Speaker 8: in the county, but I think to see, you know,
Speaker 8: it's a new day. We've got the least behind us,
Speaker 8: and so this is a new posture between the Bengals
Speaker 8: and the county and I think it's it's a good
Speaker 8: thing for the community that we're all working together.
Speaker 2: Well, like you said, hopefully that the precedent is set
Speaker 2: that this is kind of the situation moving forward. If
Speaker 2: I can be of service and helping with that for
Speaker 2: next year next please let me know because because I
Speaker 2: think it'd be fantastic for the community. But Commissioner Drea House,
Speaker 2: we really appreciate your time and great job, and thank
Speaker 2: you so much.
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yep, got it. Denise Dreehouse are our guest, and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's man. Talk about getting a lot of there's a
Speaker 1: lot of machinations going on to open that thing.
Speaker 2: There is, yeah, just a lot of moving parts, but
Speaker 2: it just takes you know, the willingness to do it.
Speaker 2: And where I had started to hear that this may happen,
Speaker 2: I have, you know, some police friends, and they had
Speaker 2: put internally put out hey, uh you know, there were
Speaker 2: just with people to see if they will be available
Speaker 2: to work police details down at the game. So once
Speaker 2: you heard that, you knew that the wheels were certainly
Speaker 2: in motion here.
Speaker 1: Well, Rock, I don't know if you got another call
Speaker 1: to together for us, but I'm saying that we might
Speaker 1: have Kerry Combs on the line. Kerry Combs on the line,
Speaker 1: I do believe he is. Kerry Combs, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 8: Hey, how you guys do today? Good?
Speaker 2: Now, if you're talking tri state football, okay, you're talking
Speaker 2: about the love that is the Cincinnati area. It begins
Speaker 2: and ends with Carry Combs, Carrie, how are you, brother, Rocky.
Speaker 9: I'm fantastic. I gotta tell you. I just called because
Speaker 9: this is a big deal playing this game at pay Corps.
Speaker 9: And you know, the Bengals deserve a ton of credit
Speaker 9: because this is not easy for them to do, and
Speaker 9: it's not just open up the stadium and let people
Speaker 9: come in. I mean it affects the coaches and the
Speaker 9: players and everybody affiliate with the Bengals, you know, the
Speaker 9: Brown family. This this is significant. And I know Mike
Speaker 9: Brown loves high school football. I know how it feels
Speaker 9: about it. I had a great opportunity to coach down
Speaker 9: there in that stadium and some pretty dagon big games,
Speaker 9: and it was it was a phenomenal experience for my
Speaker 9: players and and it's something they'll never forget. So I'm
Speaker 9: expecting they're going to get forty your fifty thousand people
Speaker 9: down there this weekend. You got two great high school
Speaker 9: teams with great tradition, two great coaches. It's just really
Speaker 9: exciting that they're that they're gonna do that. I just
Speaker 9: tell you, it just makes me love being a Cincinnatian.
Speaker 1: Rocky, you know what I mean, there's no doubt, bro.
Speaker 2: And and look, you know when I played, when you
Speaker 2: were coaching these these big regional playoff games, they were
Speaker 2: at Knipper, they were at you know, at the time,
Speaker 2: Paul Brown Stadium. For what a reason that that went
Speaker 2: away my understanding. And you may know this, Carrie, like
Speaker 2: the reason why they can't be held at Nipper anymore
Speaker 2: is as a recruiting violation.
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what you've heard as well? It is, okay, it.
Speaker 9: Is, And it was so frustrating last year we were
Speaker 9: gonna play. We were trying to get the city championship
Speaker 9: down there because you know, those kids, uh from the
Speaker 9: city schools don't get to play in some of those
Speaker 9: environments and stadiums, and so we were gonna do a
Speaker 9: doubleheader uh city championship games down there, and uh NCAA
Speaker 9: wouldn't let us do it. And you know we used
Speaker 9: to have the early season the opening game there and
Speaker 9: and everybody played and everybody went. They can't I can't
Speaker 9: imagine in any conceivable way that that's some kind of
Speaker 9: recruiting advantage. And never never felt that way. I was
Speaker 9: on both sides of it as a high school coach
Speaker 9: and as a college coach. Never felt like that at all.
Speaker 9: It just felt like this is where people ought to be.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know if you played in games
Speaker 9: down there. I coached in a ton of them effort
Speaker 9: where people were hanging off the rafters. It was sold out.
Speaker 9: We lived out before they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, played three of them down there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow.
Speaker 9: Fantastic, And so I'm really glad the Bengals stepped up.
Speaker 9: I'm just telling you, man, it just and you guys
Speaker 9: had a big part in it. Don't think that you didn't.
Speaker 9: Between Willie and you getting it on the air and
Speaker 9: pumping that and uh you know, uh God bless mus
Speaker 9: Greehouse and Katie obviously for putting it together because that's
Speaker 9: not easy for the Bengals. I'm telling you that Bengals
Speaker 9: deserve a ton of credit on this. This is a huge,
Speaker 9: huge thing for them, and it's only because they love
Speaker 9: high school football. My guess is ROCKETF you go around,
Speaker 9: uh the other thirty two thirty one NFL teams, you
Speaker 9: probably aren't going to find any high school games being
Speaker 9: played in any of those seams to the home game
Speaker 9: on Sunday.
Speaker 2: That's that's a great point. Well, well, now all these happenings,
Speaker 2: you need to be out there for the opening coin flip.
Speaker 2: I mean, let let's make this thing full circle, right,
Speaker 2: Let's get the embodiment of high school football out there
Speaker 2: and flip the coin.
Speaker 9: Right, It'll be, it'd be. It'd be a ton of fun.
Speaker 9: I love seeing Doug and Steve and love seeing the game.
Speaker 4: It would be.
Speaker 9: It just does my hard good. High school football Cincinnati
Speaker 9: is different than anywhere else.
Speaker 1: I've told you that.
Speaker 9: I told people that all over the country it just is,
Speaker 9: and uh in the state of Ohio, but especially in Cincinnati,
Speaker 9: it's it's remarkable and I'm just so excited for those
Speaker 9: teams and those kids and just our town in general.
Speaker 9: You know, it's just it's what and you know we
Speaker 9: need that in the fall, right, you need that kind
Speaker 9: of excitement and energy. It's just just fantastic.
Speaker 2: Carrie very Well said, we really appreciate calling the show
Speaker 2: and checking in, my friend, and hope you do it
Speaker 2: again soon.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 9: All right, Hey, good luck with your boys teams too.
Speaker 1: Now, thanks, Carry, appreciate you, Bud. Yeah, yeah to Kerry,
Speaker 1: Kerry Comb's just a bat. How about that Carry comes
Speaker 1: calling a Rocky show. I thought you would have raised them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you didn't tell me this.
Speaker 10: Going on.
Speaker 1: I'm on the phone.
Speaker 2: I was trying to get pull my hair out, trying
Speaker 2: to get that commissioner of Dreehouse on. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get Tim Streed from the OHSA to come on to
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and Carry calls about that. Cool, that's great,
Speaker 1: he's the best with that. We check in with trafficking weather,
Speaker 1: What is going on? All right?
Speaker 2: On a completely other tangent here, I saw this story
Speaker 2: and see, these are the things that interest me. Maybe
Speaker 2: not well, I know you, you and I are kind
Speaker 2: of interested in the same things, especially two things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, nonetheless, nonetheless it's generational snakes observed wiping poison
Speaker 2: off frogs before eating them.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the snakes are getting smarter.
Speaker 2: So a royal ground snake was given in a test,
Speaker 2: was given a potentially lethal frogs was given potentially lethal
Speaker 2: frogs to eat. Okay, so instead of eating the frogs,
Speaker 2: was carry poison on top of their skin. The snakes
Speaker 2: were observed wrapping around the frogs and dragging them to
Speaker 2: wipe the poison and off before eating. Okay, so he
Speaker 2: was limited by small sample size. Ten snakes each was
Speaker 2: presented with three striped poison dark frogs.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I eight these things. They're dead, right.
Speaker 2: Of the ten snakes, six refuse to participate, so they're
Speaker 2: like nothing because I know it has poison. Four of
Speaker 2: the snakes engaged in dragging the frog around on its
Speaker 2: back to get rid of the poison. And then and
Speaker 2: three of those four snakes survived.
Speaker 1: See now that's all we need to do. Four snakes
Speaker 1: to develop superior intelligence. Right, because I don't like them,
Speaker 1: I know you don't like them, and they start getting
Speaker 1: smart and or growing arms and stuff, I'm out, I'm out.
Speaker 1: I will. I would tell the story I told a
Speaker 1: long time ago, and it anybody would have been to
Speaker 1: the same boat as me. In my in my old house,
Speaker 1: I was coming up the steps we lived, I've told
Speaker 1: that before. We lived next to ole woods, so there
Speaker 1: were all kinds of critters running, you know, roaming around
Speaker 1: the property. And I went down into the basement to
Speaker 1: get like we had a fridge down in the basement
Speaker 1: and went down there to get a popper or whatever
Speaker 1: the hell with. And I'm walking up the steps and
Speaker 1: it's kind of dark down there, and I see this.
Speaker 1: When the kids were little, and I see this. They
Speaker 1: had all these rubber critters that they played with. And
Speaker 1: I see once on the on the step in front
Speaker 1: of me, and I reached down to pick it up,
Speaker 1: thinking it's a rubber snake. Oh no, it was real, Ian, dude,
Speaker 1: I about, well, it wasn't. It was just one of
Speaker 1: those things where I didn't think it was alive. And
Speaker 1: soon I reached down there and it just went good
Speaker 1: and wiggled away, and I almost fell backwards down the steps.
Speaker 1: I was like, I did not expect that. Uh, nor
Speaker 1: do I want to expect it again.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: With that thought of mind, we check in. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: we got a state rep out of Matthews up Jornesse. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's got some legislation, you know, kind of timely with
Speaker 2: what we're talking about with getting this high school game
Speaker 2: moved to pay Corps.
Speaker 1: He's put for some legislation.
Speaker 2: Uh that once you know, anytime you know there's a
Speaker 2: stadium that has you know, tax dollars involved in it, right,
Speaker 2: community ownership. Uh, that they that game, that the prices
Speaker 2: should be on par with what you would get at
Speaker 2: say a high school venue. So he'll explain that next
Speaker 2: after the news News Radio seven hundred w l W.
Speaker 2: All right back with Eddie and Rocky.
Speaker 1: And rock this is a this is a kind of
Speaker 1: cool story here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's timely because we're dealing with the big
Speaker 2: news that the older sext football game is going to
Speaker 2: go down to pay for stadium. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I mean a big shout out to the Bengals or
Speaker 2: were very interchol and you know, none of this happens
Speaker 2: without them giving their blessing to have a high scho
Speaker 2: game in their pro stadium.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: But there's state rep here locally that is introduced some
Speaker 2: legislation or drafting some legislation whereas any taxpayer subsidized stadium
Speaker 2: in the state, So that could be the Bengals stadium,
Speaker 2: that could be the Browns News Stadium, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: If they're taking taxpayer dollars, a concession would be that
Speaker 2: they reduce any fees so that tickets would be the
Speaker 2: same price as your average high school venue.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So again, very very timely, and that State Rep of course,
Speaker 2: is a good friend of the show, Adam Matthews, who
Speaker 2: coincidentally is the say next guy?
Speaker 1: Did I mention it? Anyway, Adam Matthews, I welcome to program.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 11: Doing great?
Speaker 1: To do it great?
Speaker 11: I'm still excited for these young gentlemen both at Eleder
Speaker 11: and X where uh they're gonna This has been a
Speaker 11: once in a lifetime memory. So again, like you said,
Speaker 11: congratulations and thank you to the Bengals. One of my
Speaker 11: my formative memories was at Paul Brown Stadium. We beat
Speaker 11: Cole Raine twelve to nine and to a crowd of
Speaker 11: tens of thousands, and it's it's incredible. I'm very excited.
Speaker 11: And the Bingos have stepped up to really build.
Speaker 1: The community here.
Speaker 11: So this is this is wonderful, wonderful news.
Speaker 1: Wonderful news.
Speaker 2: And again timely because you're you're drafting some legislation that
Speaker 2: I guess it might be beneficial especially to viewers of
Speaker 2: that might want to go to these kind of games,
Speaker 2: big games that are held at at bigger stadium.
Speaker 1: So explain what you got going on.
Speaker 12: Yes, so.
Speaker 11: We heard and we're trying to chase down how true
Speaker 11: of The reasoning was that the OHSAA was did not
Speaker 11: look at the Bingos Stadium or the other places like
Speaker 11: that because of cost, and that's really unfortunate. The if
Speaker 11: you're going to have taxpayer dollars going into these facilities,
Speaker 11: then they should be community assets. When we look to
Speaker 11: have the Lender Center of Tennis up in Mason, take
Speaker 11: taxpayer dollars. We opened it up so that it wouldn't
Speaker 11: just be it for the professional tournament, but now it
Speaker 11: has at very low cost. The girls and boys State
Speaker 11: Tennis finals are there and you look up at the
Speaker 11: Brown Stadium in that huge infrastructure that's being built out there,
Speaker 11: and I think that the Bengals are going to look
Speaker 11: for a renovation. But if you're going to have taxpayer
Speaker 11: dollars going to this, then when the Bengals and the
Speaker 11: pros are not using it, it should be available for
Speaker 11: the community. And what better than Friday night lights so
Speaker 11: that you can have these venues where State AX and
Speaker 11: Elder have ten thousand seats on a normal regular season game,
Speaker 11: so when it gets to these regional finals, you should
Speaker 11: have venues that have thirty, forty fifty sixty thousand seats
Speaker 11: and they'll fill up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and available to the every day.
Speaker 2: Right and and to your point with your legislation, I
Speaker 2: assume the heart of this is in you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know not the Bengals would do this, I don't think,
Speaker 2: but that that you know, a pro venue wouldn't all
Speaker 2: of a sudden want to start charging pro prices where
Speaker 2: now a ticket to this great playoff high school game
Speaker 2: is going to cost seventy or no, it's going to
Speaker 2: be in line with your normal ticket right of you know,
Speaker 2: seven eight ten bucks that sort of.
Speaker 11: Thing exactly, or that they look at their normal cost
Speaker 11: of it. It is very expensive, and I understand it's
Speaker 11: very expensive to run kind of a small city on
Speaker 11: a NFL game day to make sure that that's not
Speaker 11: a barrier to entry for these locations to being open
Speaker 11: to the community.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're talking to Ada Matthews here, stay
Speaker 1: rep and the guys. One thing I haven't heard are
Speaker 1: are the schools paying the Bengals to use the stadium?
Speaker 1: Are they donating? And I have not heard that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the details, but imagine new Yeah,
Speaker 2: well you explain, Adam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I.
Speaker 13: Know that there's a play in public statement at five
Speaker 13: o'clock today, and so they'll come out with all of that,
Speaker 13: and it's still no matter what it is, it's very
Speaker 13: gracious for the Bengals to respond in this last minute way.
Speaker 2: Right, And I'm sure they organized in a way that's
Speaker 2: it's not you know, chopping the head off anybody here,
Speaker 2: right and either school or the HSAA and all that.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, this is this is fantastic.
Speaker 11: And I also give credit Mason Is where it was
Speaker 11: going to be located. It's a great stadium. It's just
Speaker 11: smaller than either the home stadiums of either X or Elder.
Speaker 11: So this is and a good credit to this agility
Speaker 11: for everyone coming together to step up, seeing a problem
Speaker 11: and adjusting very good. And he makes the play call,
Speaker 11: but you adjust on the field.
Speaker 1: That's the way you do it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: So with your legislation that you're crafting right now, when
Speaker 2: do we expect to maybe see that end of the.
Speaker 1: House floor for a vote or get considered or discussed or.
Speaker 11: What so right now, we are working, We are reaching
Speaker 11: out to HSAA making sure that we don't step on contracts,
Speaker 11: but want to make sure that it's these communities that
Speaker 11: love their high school sports, these communities that Live and
Speaker 11: Die on Friday Night are made home. I believe we'll
Speaker 11: have something introduced and have committees when we come back
Speaker 11: early next year. This week is likely our last week
Speaker 11: before Thanksgiving and Christmas, so we'll get back to work
Speaker 11: right after that.
Speaker 1: Very good, that's great, Adam.
Speaker 2: Hey, well listen, we appreciate all you're doing here and
Speaker 2: again especially very timely with what's going on, and I
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on the show and keep us posting.
Speaker 1: How this thing goes right. Absolutely all right, thanks so much, Bud.
Speaker 1: Of course they wrap out of Matthews. So when you
Speaker 1: were where did you play? When you're in high school?
Speaker 1: We played Nippert so weight.
Speaker 2: So my freshman year I got the dress varsity and
Speaker 2: we played at Knippert. And then my let's see, yeah,
Speaker 2: senior year, we played at Knippert against Hamilton one, and
Speaker 2: then we played the next week played Moler at Knippert.
Speaker 1: Lost, But yeah, so I've played yeah three times there.
Speaker 1: What was it as a What was it like as
Speaker 1: a high school kid playing in front of a crowd
Speaker 1: like that? I mean, obviously Nippert back then wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't huge like it is now. It was still a damn.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Yeah, it felt you know, even
Speaker 1: even then, it was like you could really feel like
Speaker 1: that thing was packed, you know it. No, it was great.
Speaker 1: That was back and they had the old field turf,
Speaker 1: I mean, like not field turf, like the old like
Speaker 1: turf turf, you know.
Speaker 9: What I mean.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just I recall that. But well, I'm
Speaker 1: fun My buddies from Dayton a few of them came
Speaker 1: down here to school and to go to U See,
Speaker 1: and I remember back then you could walk out in
Speaker 1: the field at Nippert. We're out there throwing frisbee and
Speaker 1: just kind of horsing around and stuff, and nobody has
Speaker 1: said anything to us.
Speaker 4: Have some fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let it go have fun. All right? With that,
Speaker 1: we check in with traffic and weather, what is going on?
Speaker 9: All right?
Speaker 1: Back with Eddie and Rocky coming up after the bottom
Speaker 1: of the hour news, we're gonna be talking to our
Speaker 1: good friend Dave Hatter about this cloud flair thing that
Speaker 1: happened today. Now you didn't experience it, right, I did not,
Speaker 1: because every any website I tried to go on, well
Speaker 1: it kind of alternated, you know. I tried to access
Speaker 1: my work email, nothing hornwork try to access those other sites.
Speaker 1: Thank god. Any right, that's where you had to. I
Speaker 1: had some to do, but no, but any anyway by
Speaker 1: leg Cincinnati dot cot and it didn't matter. Then I
Speaker 1: would go back to it a minute later and it
Speaker 1: would work. And that's what we're going to talk to
Speaker 1: him about that. Apparently this was I guess worldwide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, per down Detector. Some of the
Speaker 2: websites hit were x A League of Legends, Grinder.
Speaker 1: Which I know you That's what I was. Bump we all.
Speaker 10: Some I'm old, I don't care anymore, something called anyway
Speaker 10: I can't even know. I'm move on real quick. At
Speaker 10: six and eight tonight, last Callista is going to have
Speaker 10: Pat Kelsey. Right, other than the high school football game,
Speaker 10: there's a big UC versus Louisville basketball game.
Speaker 2: And so I was going to talk that big game
Speaker 2: and I'm sure I know, give information about tickets and
Speaker 2: all that sort of thing, but that'll be good. In
Speaker 2: other news, ed on This Day in History nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 2: If you tuned into one MTV, you might have heard
Speaker 2: this song. They're very famous. Nirvana and Plugged recorded their
Speaker 2: on This Day in History. They actually recorded their MTV
Speaker 2: Unplugged Special.
Speaker 1: At Sony Studios in New York. They of course played
Speaker 1: a set list really have kind of lesser known stuff
Speaker 1: right their own songs. Yeah, this is like this is
Speaker 1: a David Bowie. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some meat puppets, you know whatever. But this,
Speaker 2: I remember this album was huge in nineteen ninety three thirteen.
Speaker 2: I had to tell everybody had this tape. Everybody, and
Speaker 2: this was just really groundbreaking stuff to see this grunge
Speaker 2: kind of heavy band sit there.
Speaker 1: And now I wasn't truly unplugged. It was just toned down.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no, less you get the idea. For
Speaker 1: my money, if this isn't the best unplugged show, I'd
Speaker 1: like to know what's better in that. But it's certainly
Speaker 1: in top two or three. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: another good one. Alison Chains, I would say those two
Speaker 1: are neck and neck. I would go, this is the
Speaker 1: best one. I can't argue. I'm not going to argue,
Speaker 1: but right below that would be the Alison Chains one.
Speaker 1: Because well, I told that story not too long ago.
Speaker 1: I put that on in a CD in my truck
Speaker 1: and we were driving back from Gatlinburg, and Dev says
Speaker 1: this is good.
Speaker 4: Who is this?
Speaker 1: Because I had said it wasn't she said in Nirvana
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, no, no it's not. But pound
Speaker 1: for you know, that'd be a good topic one day
Speaker 1: because one of the I think I've told you this before,
Speaker 1: look it up because it's really good. L L cool
Speaker 1: J Mama said, knock you out. I was just gonna
Speaker 1: mention that dude that live he killed it. I know
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, Okay, this is going to
Speaker 1: be corny, but it was like, this is pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's pretty talented.
Speaker 2: Now I was looking, so I'm looking up here list
Speaker 2: of artists featured by MTV and plugged. I remember one
Speaker 2: of the very first ones I saw, and this is
Speaker 2: nineteen eight one, the first year they did this.
Speaker 1: Now I remember it.
Speaker 2: Ten thousand maniacs. That was because then, you know that
Speaker 2: was that was a huge, huge song. Let's see who else,
Speaker 2: Great White, I don't remember them doing it. I remember
Speaker 2: I don't remember Aerosmith doing it either.
Speaker 1: Remember that one.
Speaker 2: Eric Clapton, Oh clap he did Layla unplugged oust and
Speaker 2: iconic Tears in Heaven. Tears in Heaven brought the house down,
Speaker 2: brought the house down. Yes, so I don't even I
Speaker 2: don't remember. I remember Katie Lang doing Okay, Bruce Springsteen,
Speaker 2: I remember him.
Speaker 1: Doing oh yeah he did see again. He was kind
Speaker 1: of like I wasn't really unplugged. It was kind of
Speaker 1: sort of just like Nirvana down a little bit not
Speaker 1: ye So yeah, no, I mean that was that was
Speaker 1: just that was great. I think your good friends did it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to forget that you were probably did you
Speaker 1: too do it. I'm sure that's probably when they stopped
Speaker 1: doing there like this ain't working, you know, and i'
Speaker 1: remember that, but I'm pretty sure that you did it.
Speaker 1: They certainly did.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at like the last year, God that
Speaker 2: they did this all the way until now again I'll
Speaker 2: learn what.
Speaker 1: You know and what the form it took. But I
Speaker 1: mean this says it going all the way to I
Speaker 1: mean way late.
Speaker 2: I mean after a while, it wasn't like the true
Speaker 2: unplugged some yeah here in two thousand and one, Ram, yeah,
Speaker 2: Lauryn Hill remember that one, kind of so lots more set.
Speaker 1: I remember that one.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we're gonna be talking to our good friend
Speaker 1: Dave Header about this cloud flare thing that happened this morning,
Speaker 1: but now it's the news News Radio seven hundred w
Speaker 1: L All right back with Eddian, Rocky and Rocky. This morning.
Speaker 1: You said you did an experience, but it was kind
Speaker 1: of it was very dodgy with me, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was just my home internet screwing up again, because
Speaker 1: it's kind of screwy. But a cloud flare, it's crowded.
Speaker 1: Cloud flare is a well, let's let's ask our guy here,
Speaker 1: Dave Header about it. Hey, Dave, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 4: I'm good, guys, how you doing it?
Speaker 1: So what why don't you explain to us what cloud
Speaker 1: flare is? I've seen that screen before that popped up
Speaker 1: this morning. I got told rock I was just trying
Speaker 1: to access my work email and I get this cloud
Speaker 1: flare screen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that, Ed, because I saw
Speaker 4: a lot of systems down all over the internet. In fact,
Speaker 4: just looking at a quick short list here e commerce platform, Shopify,
Speaker 4: job search Engine, indeed, anthropics, claud chatbot, elon Musk's platform
Speaker 4: X down Detector, which is a site many people use
Speaker 4: to try to figure out is there some sort of
Speaker 4: widespread out it's going on? Ironically, it was down itself,
Speaker 4: and apparently open Ai, which makes Chatchyputine sort had some
Speaker 4: of their apps down, So cloud Flare is kind of
Speaker 4: hard to explain to someone who's not a nerd. Basically,
Speaker 4: imagine a company that provides a variety of services something
Speaker 4: called content caching, where they can copy the content of
Speaker 4: your website and then move it to different servers all
Speaker 4: around the Internet so it's closer to places. So instead
Speaker 4: of having to go maybe multiple hops off the Internet
Speaker 4: to get to it, they can pull it from a
Speaker 4: server that's closer so it loads faster. That's one of
Speaker 4: the things. It's called content delivery or content delivery network.
Speaker 4: They act as a reverse proxy, which is basically fancy
Speaker 4: nerd speak, where they sit in between a user and
Speaker 4: your website and when someone requests the content from your
Speaker 4: website or a web based application again Shopify, things like that,
Speaker 4: they're sitting in between there, you're hitting them first, and
Speaker 4: then they check out that request, try to determine isn't
Speaker 4: rigit doesn't have any kind of malicious content, and then
Speaker 4: stow it on to the legitimate site. And they also
Speaker 4: try to stop distributed denial of service attacks. I'm sure
Speaker 4: we've talked about that in the past, the idea where
Speaker 4: you have Internet of Things devices, maybe at one time
Speaker 4: set top cable boxes. We're co opted by bad guys
Speaker 4: and they use these things that just launch enormous amounts
Speaker 4: of traffic at certain websites to try and bring them down,
Speaker 4: just overload them with so many requests. So those are
Speaker 4: three of the main things cloud player is doing. And
Speaker 4: I've seen numbers of twenty percent of the entire Internet
Speaker 4: is using one or more of these services from crowdflay.
Speaker 4: So if they have a hiccup like we saw today,
Speaker 4: it's pretty pretty catastrophic to a substantial portion of the Internet.
Speaker 4: Thankfully they were able to fix it fairly quickly.
Speaker 1: Interesting, I mean, so, I mean, how how often can
Speaker 1: we expect these things?
Speaker 4: Well, Rocky hopefully not at all. And you know, one
Speaker 4: of the concerns I have had talk to you guys about,
Speaker 4: I talk about this all the time, is we are
Speaker 4: moving so fast with all this technology. You know, we
Speaker 4: just saw the AWS outage a week of TJ that
Speaker 4: knocked out a substantial portion of the Internet. You guys
Speaker 4: may recall we talked about the crowd strike outage, where
Speaker 4: you have what is ASSINCI, an antivirus program that, due
Speaker 4: to an update, caused a massive outage across the internet
Speaker 4: last year. And my concern with all of this is
Speaker 4: our society is increasingly reliant on all this technology, like
Speaker 4: you said, educating and get your email. You know, lots
Speaker 4: of sites were down and while you know some video
Speaker 4: game site is down, that's one thing. If people's businesses
Speaker 4: are down because they've relied on one of these services,
Speaker 4: that's a real problem. And especially if it affects our
Speaker 4: critical infrastructure. If you can't roll ambulances, if you water
Speaker 4: plant goes down, if the electrical grid goes down as
Speaker 4: a result, who be saying it's a serious problem. And
Speaker 4: you know, my concern with all of this is most
Speaker 4: software and you know this is all software making this
Speaker 4: work is really not focused on security and robustness and uptime.
Speaker 4: It's focused on things like speed the market, ease of use,
Speaker 4: and market share. And you know, when there are ways
Speaker 4: to build systems that are resilient and very difficult to
Speaker 4: break down. I mean, you know, you get hit with
Speaker 4: an EMP, you get hit with a solar storm, there's
Speaker 4: probably nothing you could do about that. But you can
Speaker 4: build systems that are resilient, It costs more money, it
Speaker 4: takes more time, it's more difficult to do, and you know,
Speaker 4: when you see these kind of outagies, it really makes
Speaker 4: me concerned. Thankfully, there are organizations out there like SAISM,
Speaker 4: a Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, push the idea of
Speaker 4: secure by design and focus on critical infrastructure, because even
Speaker 4: though this is a private company, you could argue it's
Speaker 4: critical infrastructure because so many other companies rely on them
Speaker 4: for protection and to speed things up and so forth.
Speaker 4: And you know, as a society, we have just got
Speaker 4: to get serious that think it's serious, and you've got
Speaker 4: to do it now about building systems that are resilient
Speaker 4: and focused on uptime. Because this is only down for
Speaker 4: a couple hours for the most part. Imagine if this
Speaker 4: were still down, or if it were down for days
Speaker 4: or weeks, what a problem this would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and David, how does that? How does this get repaired? Well,
Speaker 1: you said fairly quickly, But it said it was taken
Speaker 1: care of by you know, early morning. But I'll tell
Speaker 1: you it was. It was affecting my computer until shoot,
Speaker 1: almost noon, I would say.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So according to one article that I read, it
Speaker 4: said a few sites came back online within a few hours. Now,
Speaker 4: cloud Fare, like all of these large Internet cloud based companies,
Speaker 4: will have some kind of status page administrator, whatever you
Speaker 4: want to call it. You can kind of go see
Speaker 4: what's going on again. A lot of people will use
Speaker 4: the website downdetector dot com, which ironically was knocked out
Speaker 4: by this at least for a short period of time.
Speaker 4: Of course, you know cloud Fare, a cloud FLARIR spokesperson said, quote,
Speaker 4: the root cause of the average was an automated generated
Speaker 4: configuration file used to manage spread traffic that grew beyond
Speaker 4: the expected size of interesting entries and cause the crash
Speaker 4: and the system that handles traffic for several of its services.
Speaker 4: Was first reported around five twenty am, so it was
Speaker 4: mostly fixed by about ten am. But again, guys, when
Speaker 4: you read what they said, first off, they're saying not
Speaker 4: a cyber attack. This is essentially a configuration slash software error.
Speaker 4: Configuration error slash software error. And again, people write this software.
Speaker 4: You know, That's what I did for over twenty five years.
Speaker 4: People make mistakes, and when you have critical services that
Speaker 4: rely on this stuff, you really can't afford these kind
Speaker 4: of mistakes. Again, Thankfully they were able to get to
Speaker 4: the bottom of it quickly. But to me, this is
Speaker 4: just another indication, especially in light of the AWS outage
Speaker 4: and these other outages we've seen. And I'll just say this, guys,
Speaker 4: without going too far down the rabbit hole, the idea
Speaker 4: of any kind of central bank digital currency, if you
Speaker 4: want to know why, it's a terrible idea, despite the
Speaker 4: privacy and surveillance aspects. Just imagine this takes down the
Speaker 4: banking system for three or four days and you can't
Speaker 4: you can't get any kind of money because it's all digital.
Speaker 4: Think about how that would work out.
Speaker 2: I wonder what, because I feel like that's going to happen,
Speaker 2: is everyone gets further and further away from using real money.
Speaker 2: I mean some places don't, I mean increasingly more and
Speaker 2: more don't even don't take money.
Speaker 1: Don't take money.
Speaker 2: And yes, what happens if a computer crashes, are a
Speaker 2: cloud flare happens, Everyone's going to lose your mind, you know,
Speaker 2: especially if it happens over the course of three days
Speaker 2: or a week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a I know people don't like to talk
Speaker 4: about this. I know people don't like to think about this,
Speaker 4: but again, Rockie we have just got to get serious
Speaker 4: about as we become increasingly reliant on this technology, making
Speaker 4: sure that the fundamental focus is on up time and
Speaker 4: resilience as opposed to things like cost and market share
Speaker 4: and so forth, because once this goes down for any
Speaker 4: extinct it's going to be a major problem, especially again
Speaker 4: if it can take down on critical infrastructure sectors like
Speaker 4: the electrical grid or water plants or you know, emergency services.
Speaker 4: Think about the potential negative consequences of that. Now, again
Speaker 4: they have said very clearly. Again to their credit, they
Speaker 4: have apologized. They've come out and said, this is our fault,
Speaker 4: this is unacceptable. So from a Cloud Flair perspective, I
Speaker 4: think they've done.
Speaker 1: Everything above board.
Speaker 4: But again, just imagine the potential consequences that this wouldn't
Speaker 4: have been able to be restored a quickly, whether it's
Speaker 4: simply loss of business or critical services, police fire, ambulance
Speaker 4: can't get out. We got to get really serious about this,
Speaker 4: and we've got to do it soon, Dives, and I
Speaker 4: just can't stratad enough. Thankfully, there are people out there
Speaker 4: talking about this, but I don't know that enough people
Speaker 4: are taking it seriously and that we're focusing on the
Speaker 4: right things.
Speaker 1: All right with that, Dave hadd we can We've been
Speaker 1: talking about this forever. I mean, you kind of turned
Speaker 1: the sword to the possibilities here, and I just know
Speaker 1: just from watching it happen around here. If you remember,
Speaker 1: we all remember if a couple of you know, whenever,
Speaker 1: that was a few years back when the hurricane came
Speaker 1: through here and power was knocked out all over the city. Now,
Speaker 1: think about that, if something like that, a cyber attack
Speaker 1: takes out the power of grid and whatever area for
Speaker 1: four or five days, two weeks, whatever the case might be,
Speaker 1: it would be panic, it'd be nuts.
Speaker 4: I agree with you, because the last time the power
Speaker 4: was out for any extended period of time, I'm thinking
Speaker 4: it was like two thousand and eight due to that hurricane.
Speaker 4: I went like a whole week without power at my house.
Speaker 4: We weren't nearly as dependent on this stuff as we
Speaker 4: are today, and the more and more dependent we get
Speaker 4: on it, the more critical it's going to be to
Speaker 4: ensure that these systems are you know, have like six
Speaker 4: nine seven nine eight nine up time where you know
Speaker 4: the likelihood of it going down is virtually zero. We've
Speaker 4: got to get there or we're we're in a bad
Speaker 4: place if we don't. So we got to focus on
Speaker 4: secure by design.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 1: With with that, Dave Hadter, we will let you go, buddy.
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys, have a good one day.
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, down in your in your cellar their son.
Speaker 1: Yeah back then there, but it is okay. We're helpless
Speaker 1: when it comes to stuff, when it comes to internet stuff.
Speaker 1: I know, I am, like I said, I just kept
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to get on my work email
Speaker 1: and I can. I've said that looking on my iPad, Like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: It's like a god given right, basic human rights. You
Speaker 2: are to have the internet work when I want to
Speaker 2: watch a funny cat video?
Speaker 4: Right? Right?
Speaker 1: Are you always working?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 11: You doing that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Stop?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Just work?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: And there's I mean, I mean, think about the things
Speaker 2: increasingly in our society that you absolutely is your idea
Speaker 2: how they work.
Speaker 1: And they just work. So you just expect it to work.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: Just then when it doesn't, you go, well, then you
Speaker 1: realize you have absolutely no idea how to fix it? Correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, oh yeah, just keep trying it. That's
Speaker 1: why when it comes to the computer stuff, that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all I can do. I just like keep trying
Speaker 1: it until it works, or I go unplug something and
Speaker 1: plug it back in and see if that work.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, the worst thing that would happen
Speaker 2: would be, you know, if you ran out of wood
Speaker 2: or coal, you couldn't eat your home. But you know,
Speaker 2: as long as you can figure out a way to
Speaker 2: get that one, you could fix your problem. And now
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how to. We can't
Speaker 2: even order a pizza without without the internet anymore.
Speaker 1: Right there? You go, helpless? Help with that. We check
Speaker 1: in with traffic and weather. What is going on, Rocky?
Speaker 1: This sounds like something out of an old movie or something.
Speaker 1: This happened in Australia. Deborah Brown and her her family
Speaker 1: were cleaning up a beach near their hometown in Western
Speaker 1: Australia and they were just you know, picking up the
Speaker 1: litter and whatnot, and they found an old bottle okay,
Speaker 1: washed up one shore. All right, I know this is
Speaker 1: going It turned out to be two guys who were
Speaker 1: heading off to fight in World War One? What wow?
Speaker 1: Very cool? How about that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: The uh, there were two letters in there dated nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: The two guys were shipping out to head off to
Speaker 1: well obviously to Europe. Then so these people found it
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah put it on social media. They
Speaker 1: traced down these people's relatives all these years where they're
Speaker 1: obviously their ancestors at this stage of the game. It
Speaker 1: was Private Malcolm Neville and Private William Harley. Private Neville's
Speaker 1: records show that he was initially discharged due to his
Speaker 1: poor eyesight, but then re enlisted a couple of weeks later.
Speaker 2: Here's so many stories about that, whether if someone was
Speaker 2: a little bit too young, bad eyesight, found no way
Speaker 2: to sneak in, said his great his great nephew.
Speaker 1: I think that just shows you his character, how determined
Speaker 1: he was. Sadly, Private Neville was killed in action in
Speaker 1: France at the age of twenty eight, but his buddy
Speaker 1: Private Harley did get home. His granddaughter and Turner said
Speaker 1: finding the letters was like a miracle. Were absolutely stunned.
Speaker 1: But try to imagine that man, that is something like
Speaker 1: out of a dream that you would, oh, look at
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's going to be some kid who was
Speaker 1: on a field trip, and that they threw it in
Speaker 1: the water about a week and a half ago. Right, No,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen. Now have you ever put a note in
Speaker 1: a bottle? I've done it probably three or four times.
Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Yeah, I'm mahma stooing in there.
Speaker 1: Did you get anything back? Nothing? Well, one time this
Speaker 1: model reached out to me, and you know, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm already taken. Yeah, comb yeah, yeah. But
Speaker 1: Gwen Stefani was probably walking along the beach and Clink
Speaker 1: always picked up with her toe and was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's this looking for? Just like a nice, you know,
Speaker 1: redhaired guy, fairly from the Midwest. But unfortunately she had
Speaker 1: just married Blake. Were shut down coming up, We're gonna
Speaker 1: we got I guess here. This is very cool. I
Speaker 1: happened to stumble across her reels on Facebook and obviously
Speaker 1: on Instagram as well. Sammy Riggs is her name. She
Speaker 1: writes songs. She's a singer songwriter, and she kind of
Speaker 1: every week writes the Bengals Diddy. We'll be talking to
Speaker 1: her about how she got into this and what it's
Speaker 1: all about. They're pretty. She actually does a killer version
Speaker 1: of Zombie by the Cranberrys, which I know you like
Speaker 1: heck yeah, and it's about the Bengals. Call hear it
Speaker 1: coming up right now. It's the News News Radio seven
Speaker 1: hundred w LW right back with Eddie and Rocky.
Speaker 4: And Mark.
Speaker 1: I've seen this woman on Facebook on her seen her reels.
Speaker 1: She is a singer songwriter and just kind of in
Speaker 1: her spare time, she has deemed to write a Bengals
Speaker 1: song pretty much every week after the Bengals games.
Speaker 2: And there they're thematic right like they they fit the theme.
Speaker 2: The song fits the theme of what mayor may not have.
Speaker 1: Happened, generally in the style of another artist.
Speaker 12: Yes, Londer, our hearts the seasons over of their dry
Speaker 12: and only so much can be expected. It's the same
Speaker 12: old thing with the third youby.
Speaker 1: It's been said, it's been said, we won't stoup whining
Speaker 1: Brownie back up, and we have her with us right now.
Speaker 1: From a dry Ridge to your radio. Is that our
Speaker 1: friend Sammy Riggs? Sammy, welcome to the program. Hello, So
Speaker 1: is Sammy singer songwriter Dry Ridge? Explain your story because
Speaker 1: you just want a songwriting award in Nashville? Is that correct?
Speaker 12: So it's Nashville, Indiana?
Speaker 1: But yes, well, heye's na, that's it. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 12: So yeah. So I grew up in Northern Kentucky. I've
Speaker 12: been playing music since I was really young.
Speaker 9: And.
Speaker 12: I mean I've always been a songwriter, but I feel
Speaker 12: like I've really honed in on the craft probably over
Speaker 12: the last five.
Speaker 4: Years or so.
Speaker 12: And I definitely have always used humor to relate to people,
Speaker 12: and so with the Bengals songs, it was just kind
Speaker 12: of a way to recap what has happened during games
Speaker 12: during the season, and I kind of started doing it
Speaker 12: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Very nice.
Speaker 2: So, so are all the songs you write or perform?
Speaker 2: Are they themed around sports or local events that are
Speaker 2: things that are happening in the world.
Speaker 4: Or what.
Speaker 12: Every I write about everything. So I have original music
Speaker 12: on Spotify. Those are obviously more serious songs. So I mean, really,
Speaker 12: if you're friends with a songwriter, anything can be turned
Speaker 12: into a song. So you have to be careful what
Speaker 12: you do and say you might end up in a song.
Speaker 1: It's like Taylor Swift, right as you write a song
Speaker 1: about you.
Speaker 12: Now, I mean pretty much Taylor and I are very
Speaker 12: close in age, so when she was, you know, coming
Speaker 12: into the picture, I was still in high school, and
Speaker 12: so I actually had a lot of animosity towards her.
Speaker 12: When I was younger, I think there was a lot
Speaker 12: of jealousy of like, man.
Speaker 5: She's doing what I want to be doing.
Speaker 12: But now obviously, like I have so much respect for her.
Speaker 12: But yeah, I just really enjoy just writing and I
Speaker 12: always want to make people laugh if I can.
Speaker 2: You know, right now in your career doing this, can
Speaker 2: you recall or take us back to a moment when
Speaker 2: you had one hit big right or like got a
Speaker 2: lot of attention, you know, because like music business is tough.
Speaker 2: You can do this for a long time and kind
Speaker 2: of go unnoticed, but do your call one that really
Speaker 2: got a lot of play and kind of got you
Speaker 2: a little recognition.
Speaker 12: I mean, honestly, up until now, the Bengals stuff has
Speaker 12: probably gotten me more recognition than anything, just because you know,
Speaker 12: the algorithm and people seeing things through the years, just
Speaker 12: being a local and you know, playing throughout the area.
Speaker 12: I've had people following me for a while just from
Speaker 12: like singing in bars, restaurants and things like that. But
Speaker 12: I feel like up until now I've kind of been
Speaker 12: and part of it too, is just the grind of
Speaker 12: like getting myself out there more, getting my original music
Speaker 12: out there more. So I feel like over the past
Speaker 12: year or two that's kind of it's it's just all
Speaker 12: taking off more. But I think also because I've been
Speaker 12: focusing on that more.
Speaker 1: Okay, Sam with you Rigaz our guest and now are
Speaker 1: do you find the because it sounds like you just
Speaker 1: started doing this for fun writing the Bengals song the
Speaker 1: Bengals songs? Are Are you feeling pressure now that after
Speaker 1: every game people are going, Okay, when's the net? What's
Speaker 1: summarize my feeling of the song? Is this one going
Speaker 1: to be Guns and Roses, Latest Laws or what explained?
Speaker 12: I definitely feel a lot more pressure now. When I
Speaker 12: first started doing it. I mean, obviously I started doing
Speaker 12: it because it was fun and it was just being silly,
Speaker 12: but I mean there was a lot of nervousness of like,
Speaker 12: is anyone going to care about this? And so when
Speaker 12: I started doing it a couple of years ago, there
Speaker 12: would be weeks where I didn't do a song because
Speaker 12: I'm like, I don't really know if anybodybody really cares
Speaker 12: about this, And then I would have people say, man,
Speaker 12: I was looking forward to your song, so then I
Speaker 12: started realizing that people were kind of paying attention, and
Speaker 12: I was like, okay, well, if people really care about this,
Speaker 12: I guess I'll just keep trying to do it. And
Speaker 12: this season is probably the first season I've really really
Speaker 12: felt the pressure of like, okay, I got to put
Speaker 12: out a song and it's not even I mean, okay.
Speaker 12: So the Thursday night game wide Out with the Steelers.
Speaker 12: That was an eight o'clock game. I had worked the
Speaker 12: next day, and I had.
Speaker 1: People like, where's your song? Where's the song?
Speaker 12: I'm the guys, I have a day job. Okay, I
Speaker 12: don't just this is not what I do for a living.
Speaker 12: So they had to wait until, you know, after five
Speaker 12: o'clock on Friday to hear my you know, recap of
Speaker 12: that game. So, I mean, I'm watching the game and
Speaker 12: I'm trying to think of songs, and I'm like, can
Speaker 12: I write this? And I mean on Sunday, I wrote
Speaker 12: my song in the fourth quarter of the game.
Speaker 6: Pretty much.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the story was already told.
Speaker 12: I was told. But you know what the Cardiac Cats, Okay,
Speaker 12: the which game was it? A couple of games before that,
Speaker 12: I thought we were going to win the game.
Speaker 4: The Jets game.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so I wrote a whole song about winning and
Speaker 12: then had to throw it.
Speaker 6: All the way.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's you know, there was many writers that write
Speaker 2: columns about the Bengals had had the same thing happen.
Speaker 2: So any plans of adopting this to Reds games, you know,
Speaker 2: there's only one hundred and sixty two of them, so yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, Cutch quick turnaround, bang those out like four
Speaker 2: or five a week, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 12: I mean, I follow the Reds, but I'm I don't
Speaker 12: know as much about baseball as I do about football,
Speaker 12: So that's my only That would be the difficult part
Speaker 12: for me there. But I mean, even with the football stuff,
Speaker 12: I have moments where I'm like, I mean, you're never
Speaker 12: going to satisfy everyone's thought in a song. And so
Speaker 12: even with you know, the songs that I'm posting, I'll
Speaker 12: have commentary on and of like, well, the defense actually
Speaker 12: did good this game, but the offense and it's like, okay,
Speaker 12: I know, but like notoriously, our defense sucks. So that's
Speaker 12: what I'm capitalizing on. Some people are very literal about it,
Speaker 12: and they want me to be very detailed, and it's
Speaker 12: like okay, well, I can only do so much in
Speaker 12: ninety seconds.
Speaker 1: No, have you gotten any feedback from many of the
Speaker 1: players at all? Just curious about that.
Speaker 4: No, but I wish I did.
Speaker 9: That.
Speaker 12: When I wrote the Hallolujah song about Joe Burrow, I
Speaker 12: was like, maybe he'll see it because I asked him,
Speaker 12: you know, if you ever want to collab because he
Speaker 12: plays piano.
Speaker 10: Now let me know.
Speaker 2: Every big maybe you know what, maybe least reach a
Speaker 2: little less high, maybe get give find them.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've got to get the long snapper. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: some of them will start slow, might embrace that a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: It's I don't know, no Offen or something or Chase Brown.
Speaker 2: Chase Brown is having a good year running back. You
Speaker 2: might want to collab and get a little little pub
Speaker 2: little mileage for himself.
Speaker 1: It'll be good.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 12: And I will tell you that I wrote a song
Speaker 12: today about the Spitgate scandal, so I will be posting
Speaker 12: that tonight about Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1: I saw your post the other day on Facebook and
Speaker 1: you said I will be spitting out a song in
Speaker 1: a little bit. Nice. That's great. Yeah, what is this?
Speaker 1: What is this in the style of or is this
Speaker 1: a SAMMI original.
Speaker 12: It's not a semi original, it's just a chaboozy.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, ok yeah, And.
Speaker 12: I'm pretty I'm pretty proud of myself.
Speaker 4: For this one.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that'll be posted on Facebook and it's
Speaker 1: reels and so you're on Instagram, Facebook, I assume both.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and TikTok. But I'll probably I'll probably get home
Speaker 12: after this and record it and post it sometime this evening.
Speaker 1: All right, Folks just want to want to check this out?
Speaker 1: Where do they go? How do they follow you? Or
Speaker 1: check your stuff out?
Speaker 12: If you go to Sammy Riggs dot com, it's s
Speaker 12: A M I R I G g s dot com,
Speaker 12: all of my handles are there. It'll take you to
Speaker 12: my Spotify, my Facebook, my Instagram, and my TikTok as well.
Speaker 1: Now do you play out a lot, Sammy?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 12: I do. I I probably play at least three or
Speaker 12: four shows a month. I've definitely pivoted to doing more
Speaker 12: original music, so I have. My next show is going
Speaker 12: to be on Black Friday at Saskate House Revival, and
Speaker 12: that is going to be all original music. So myself,
Speaker 12: my friend Kayleen Talent, and my friends Chelsea and Zack
Speaker 12: of by Salia Gold. It's just going to be a
Speaker 12: showcase of all the songs that we've written. Nothing about
Speaker 12: the Bengals though.
Speaker 1: Very cool with that. Sammy wigile A, you go, good
Speaker 1: luck and keep up.
Speaker 12: The good war kid, thank you very much for having
Speaker 12: me have a great night.
Speaker 1: Her name is Sammy Riggs. She's from dry Ridge and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, see, I'm like she's saying she's jealous of
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Well, I'm jealous of people who can do.
Speaker 4: Stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I tried to learn how to play guitar. Dude, I
Speaker 1: couldn't strum a chord. I we know I played. Did
Speaker 1: I tell you I played drums for the band gun
Speaker 1: Metal Gray?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 2: No, okay, Well let me tell you all about it.
Speaker 2: They were a metal kind of affair metal hair metal.
Speaker 2: But we're kind of all over the map.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't like to I don't like to talk about
Speaker 1: these things. But I don't know. I don't think Gun
Speaker 1: Metal Gray did a whole lot of James Taylor toun.
Speaker 8: No, we didn't do that.
Speaker 1: We were all over the map, but we played very loud,
Speaker 1: very average. How long did the did the band last?
Speaker 1: It's not you know, three years? Well, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's not twenty five shows a year or anything.
Speaker 2: But you know, of course about two and a half
Speaker 2: years we played maybe twelve, played a couple of festivals,
Speaker 2: played a played a barn party.
Speaker 1: Kind of was it. I get the impression it was
Speaker 1: kind of spinal tappy.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: We were we were decent, you know, we were good.
Speaker 1: I mean that you guys, you know, didn't get along.
Speaker 1: And look, there was there was some some you know,
Speaker 1: there's always the guy. The lead singer generally is the guy.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this our our main argument and was
Speaker 2: always you know, our lead singer, Ben Wilson, went best
Speaker 2: friends and were a great guy, good singer. He would
Speaker 2: always want to play like you b sides off of
Speaker 2: Motley Cruz, like original first bootleg tape. Right, I'm like,
Speaker 2: do you gotta play we gotta play stuff people know,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Right, But and you got
Speaker 2: to play a few songs that are obscure. But there's
Speaker 2: there would be a couple of people in the art
Speaker 2: like we played Firewoman by the Cult and you know
Speaker 2: that's not like a super well known song, but there
Speaker 2: were a couple of people in the audience are probably
Speaker 2: like hell yeah, that was a fire woman. Good job
Speaker 2: we killed that song, by the way, but uh, you know,
Speaker 2: but then sometimes you would want to play again.
Speaker 4: Just some.
Speaker 1: Some stuff no one knew. I mean, we're not talented
Speaker 1: enough to carry that. I just see Boyman back there
Speaker 1: with the headband on the shirt shirt, the sleeless t shirt.
Speaker 1: Our first show, or it was that.
Speaker 4: It was that.
Speaker 2: We used to go a black sheet was a public
Speaker 2: house up and cheviot. Our speakers caught fire. We were
Speaker 2: running so much amperage. These like like small speakers. I'm
Speaker 2: looking in the back of it and it's like glowing hot. Like, man,
Speaker 2: this is a problem with that. We check in with
Speaker 2: traffic and weather of what's going on.
Speaker 1: From the UC. All right, bag with Eddie and Rocky
Speaker 1: in a long.
Speaker 2: One more segment here and then six oh eight Lance
Speaker 2: McCallister takes over and he is going to have Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey on right out of the gate to talk the
Speaker 2: big UC Louisville game again.
Speaker 1: That is at six oh eight.
Speaker 2: But until then, ed right, we have our good friend
Speaker 2: Alex Stone from ABC join us.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before, Alex. But I guess
Speaker 1: it keeps going here.
Speaker 2: More and more athletes and Hollywood stars are getting targeted
Speaker 2: by home burglar is when they're you know, on TV
Speaker 2: or on the road trail and that kind of thing.
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, this is an ongoing problem for athletes and celebrities,
Speaker 14: and a lot of athletes have DELLA. Then we know
Speaker 14: Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow and celebrities as well.
Speaker 14: The issue being is pretty clear where they are, and
Speaker 14: whether they're on TV or they're on social media, everybody
Speaker 14: knows they're whereabouts. And so this weekend, while shod Or
Speaker 14: Sanders was making his debut for the Browns, he had
Speaker 14: his home burglarived and the Sheriff's department to stay around
Speaker 14: two hundred thousand worth of stuff was taken, and it
Speaker 14: seemed that at the end of the game when the
Speaker 14: Browns lost, that Sanders had no idea what was going on.
Speaker 14: He didn't know about it because he was away and
Speaker 14: he was playing when he was hit and when he
Speaker 14: was talking about what was going on in his life
Speaker 14: after the game.
Speaker 2: I'm just thankful I'm out here, you know, I'm thankful,
Speaker 2: thankful seeing Autumn Twilt's out there.
Speaker 14: Probably not too thankful once he found out what had
Speaker 14: gone on at his home. And then this weekend as well,
Speaker 14: on Saturday morning, the LAPD was called the home of
Speaker 14: a Real Housewives star, Setting Strack. A dog walker saw
Speaker 14: signs of a home break in, called police, burglars were gone.
Speaker 14: And today Strak is putting out security camera footage of
Speaker 14: the burglars in her home and she says that they
Speaker 14: stole all of her luxury handbags and her fine jewelry.
Speaker 14: It's no secret where she lives, and it's no secret
Speaker 14: that she was at Bravo con in Vegas this weekend.
Speaker 14: She on the show on Real Housewives Beverly Hills, shows
Speaker 14: her home and shows everything she's got and where it is.
Speaker 14: Great thing living in a we get the sun, so
Speaker 14: there's no secret there. And then about twelve hours later
Speaker 14: on Saturday, as rain was pouring in LA this weekend,
Speaker 14: the LAPD was called the bell Air home of Kathy
Speaker 14: Hilton and TMD says her husband was at home, saw
Speaker 14: three burglars on the property, but both of them weren't
Speaker 14: Bravo Khan in Vegas, and it was very publicly known
Speaker 14: unclear if anything was taken from Hilton's home, But guys,
Speaker 14: we asked Brad Garrett, former FBI profiler ab Snows law
Speaker 14: enforcement analyst has taken all this and he says it
Speaker 14: comes back to the celebrities being easy targets. That it's
Speaker 14: clear that they're away and probably family members are not
Speaker 14: in Hilton's case, but for an athlete, family members are
Speaker 14: there watching them play and nobody will be home.
Speaker 6: As you look at these three cases, these are high
Speaker 6: profile folks, two of them from a reality television show
Speaker 6: and one a professional football player, but they all three
Speaker 6: have one thing in common. There are a way from
Speaker 6: their residences and because so many people know who they are,
Speaker 6: quite possibly maybe even where they live, because that's not
Speaker 6: that difficult to figure out. We have seen a string
Speaker 6: of high profile celebrities and professional athletes houses broken into.
Speaker 14: I got to go back to when we've covered these
Speaker 14: previously with celebrity break ins, and really the one involving
Speaker 14: Jennifer Aniston when a stoker tried to get in a
Speaker 14: few months ago but was stopped because she had high
Speaker 14: level armed security who responded and held it a gunpoint.
Speaker 14: And law enforcement tells us celebrities and athletes really need
Speaker 14: twenty four to seven armed security because even if you
Speaker 14: have an alarm system, a lot of them, don't use it.
Speaker 14: But if they haven't turned on, police still aren't going
Speaker 14: to get there quickly enough, typically before burglars can get
Speaker 14: in and get out, or get in and threaten somebody
Speaker 14: with a gun. And yeah, if it's a celebrity, hold
Speaker 14: the hostage or whatever. So that's the critical difference beyond
Speaker 14: just alarm system. But LAPD brass are saying, whether you're
Speaker 14: here or you know you're in Cleveland, that highly trained,
Speaker 14: real armed security is what makes the difference. To have
Speaker 14: your own like police department to stop an intruder. But
Speaker 14: that's super expensive. It's intrusive to have people constantly doing
Speaker 14: rounds on your property and to have cars idling out front,
Speaker 14: but that can make all the difference to preventing one
Speaker 14: of these.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'm one of these multimillionaire stars of some again,
Speaker 1: like you said, Jennifer Aniston, if I've got that kind
Speaker 1: of money, man, I'm going to be as safe as possible.
Speaker 14: You know, I'm want somebody there, And I mean it
Speaker 14: really is expensive. If you're thinking you're paying for usually
Speaker 14: multiple people twenty four hours a day, I mean you're
Speaker 14: potentially talking millions of dollars a year because of all
Speaker 14: their equipment and their training and then everything else. And
Speaker 14: if it's each individual person, depending on how good they are,
Speaker 14: then it's going to be costly. But in the case
Speaker 14: of Jennifer Aniston, those two or three security guards who
Speaker 14: were working that day and were armed, they were able
Speaker 14: to stop that intruder and hold them until the LAPD
Speaker 14: got there, whereas others just hop the fence and they
Speaker 14: go right in and can do whatever they want.
Speaker 2: That's rough, man, that's wrong. And like you said, yeah,
Speaker 2: it does seem simbol. Just hire somebody, but that that
Speaker 2: that has a cost. And and and that's even you know,
Speaker 2: that level of security requires a big cost. I'd hires
Speaker 2: and call it a day's good.
Speaker 14: You would think, well, just get camera as well. I mean,
Speaker 14: look at the strack that she has cameras and she's
Speaker 14: sharing the footage today, But what good is it when
Speaker 14: they're just wearing masks and hoodies and yeah, you can't
Speaker 14: see who they are anyway. And a lot of times
Speaker 14: now they use Wi Fi jammers to jam the signal
Speaker 14: anyway if it's not a wired camera. So I mean,
Speaker 14: that's good after the fact, but in the moment, those
Speaker 14: cameras aren't going to do much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and it is so easy, it appears, I like,
Speaker 1: so we really appreciate it. Man, thanks so much.
Speaker 14: You got to thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean I would, honestly, god, I would be scared
Speaker 1: to death most of the time if I was one
Speaker 1: of these people, if I didn't have that kind of security.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because you have a target
Speaker 1: on your back. Man, people are looking, yeah, look and
Speaker 1: everybody knows.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: Part of it two is you're on social media, so
Speaker 2: people know, okay, well you're not at your house or
Speaker 2: or you are at your house, and they want to
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like they kind of know
Speaker 2: where you can't hard to like just kind of you.
Speaker 1: Know, become unknown anymore.
Speaker 2: If you're one of these big stars where I think
Speaker 2: it used to be able to do that a little bit,
Speaker 2: at least your private residence was.
Speaker 1: Off limits or not really known where that was. But
Speaker 1: now no holds barre okay, rock before we get out
Speaker 1: of here. In other news, this is being reported in
Speaker 1: the Philippines. This is the some doctors there have documented
Speaker 1: the case of a woman whose armpits laate milk what
Speaker 1: uh gros but hand rows. But we yeah, dermatiz Just,
Speaker 1: writing in the Journal of Blah Blah Blah, said the
Speaker 1: patient was born with extra breast tissue on both sides
Speaker 1: of her under arms, which swelled up after she delivered
Speaker 1: a baby and produced milk secretions from the overlying hair follicles.
Speaker 1: It didn't bother when she was pregnant or breastfeeding. The
Speaker 1: doctor said, it effects you know, fewer than six percent
Speaker 1: of women. Rock six percent of women. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of women I have never met. So they just like
Speaker 1: when they're lactating or whatever, like it just it comes
Speaker 1: out their armpits. Awful, it leaks out of their hair follicles.
Speaker 1: How bad would that freak out?
Speaker 10: God?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Hell? How come every time of the baby nurses,
Speaker 1: I get like, right, oh my god, baby licking your
Speaker 1: armpits and stick? Are you sure you're hungry?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Sure, you want to eat? But it's just, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Uh just the various I like I said,
Speaker 1: six percent of women that effects one When you think
Speaker 1: you would have heard of that before, because I haven't
Speaker 1: heard of it and everything. Never never heard of it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well there you go. And uh so that
Speaker 1: that baby's got leftovers, I guess with the with that
Speaker 1: in mind, let's that gross thought in mind. Yeah that is,
Speaker 1: that's that's good. Leave a bad daste in everybody's mouth.
Speaker 1: But right now it's traffic and weather. What is going
Speaker 1: on