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Speaker 1: All right back with Eddie and Rocky and rock News

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Speaker 1: announced on the Western Hills Viaduct, a project that I've

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Speaker 1: lived here longer than I've lived here, longer than you've

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Speaker 1: lived here, and I'm and I'm not from here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those things. It's like the Brent Spence

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Speaker 1: since I moved here forty six years ago, I did

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Speaker 1: the bridge. Gotta fix the bridge. You gotta fix the bridge.

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Speaker 1: You got to fix the viaduct, you gotta fix the nothing, nothing,

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Speaker 1: And now they're going to half asset.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna happen, but not in the way that

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Speaker 2: I think everybody envisioned it. So I guess maybe some

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Speaker 2: some good news bad news.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk to a woman who wrote about it

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Speaker 1: today in the Inquirer Cincinnati dot Com. Our good friend,

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Speaker 1: Patricia Gallagher Newberry, And Patty, what is the latest on

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Speaker 1: these things? Because of inflation and I had kind of

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Speaker 1: loss the building material right lingering around for so long?

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Speaker 1: What are we talking about here?

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Speaker 3: I started writing about this bridge in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: and learned that it's been considered functionally obsolete since two

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Speaker 3: thousand and seven. Anybody who drives on the Western Hills

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Speaker 3: viadec knows it's in some amount of disrepair, and occasionally,

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Speaker 3: you know, you look up and you might see some

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Speaker 3: falling chunks of concrete. Year it's been two years since

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Speaker 3: anything big has fallen off. But of course they have

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Speaker 3: a lot of netting up there now to catch between

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Speaker 3: the top deck and the bottom. So the latest on this,

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Speaker 3: according to city officials, is that they're going to shrink

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Speaker 3: the footprint just a bit because of costs anticipated costs.

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Speaker 4: It was going to be.

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Speaker 3: Four lanes in each direction going over from seventy five

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Speaker 3: to the west side, over the big Queen's Gate rail yard,

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Speaker 3: and now it's going to be three lanes in each direction. Instead,

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Speaker 3: there were going to be paths on both the north

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Speaker 3: side and the south side of the new structure. Now

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Speaker 3: there's just going to be a south side passage, not

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Speaker 3: the north side.

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Speaker 5: Both of those.

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Speaker 3: Things will save some amount of cost, but city officials

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Speaker 3: either don't know or we're not yet ready to make

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Speaker 3: public how much it's going to cost. The last figure

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Speaker 3: was three hundred and ninety eight million, but that's going

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Speaker 3: back now, you know, three four years, and it was

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Speaker 3: already the second estimate. So it's definitely going to be

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Speaker 3: more than that. I certainly can't venture a guess, and

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Speaker 3: if city officials aren't willing to say it, I'm certainly

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Speaker 3: not going to jump out there.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to cost.

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Speaker 3: More and it's going to be a little more narrow

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Speaker 3: than anticipated.

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Speaker 2: Patty, just share with the listeners where all the money,

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Speaker 2: the three hundred ninety eight million and growing. Where's that

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Speaker 2: exactly come from? A local, state, federal combination.

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Speaker 5: It's a combination. Yeah, it's a combination.

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Speaker 3: And we we didn't publish it today, but we had

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Speaker 3: published some charts earlier showing, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, dot O DOT is a contributor.

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Speaker 3: The Federal Transportation Authority is a big is you know,

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Speaker 3: a contributor as the City of Cincinnati. And then they

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Speaker 3: do have two more chunks of money coming in. One

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Speaker 3: is six million that they just secured via OKI, which

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Speaker 3: your listeners might know is the Ohio Kentucky, Indiana Regional

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Speaker 3: Council of Governments, which funnels federal money.

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Speaker 5: So that's six million.

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Speaker 3: And then they've just applied for and are waiting to

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Speaker 3: hear from another big hunk from the state of Ohio

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Speaker 3: to the tune of fifty million. They already had twenty

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Speaker 3: five million from the state of Ohio secured, so another

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Speaker 3: fifty on top of that. Now, is that going to mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, we should just add fifty six million to

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Speaker 3: the last price.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but but that's where it stands at

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Speaker 5: this time in terms of the funding.

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Speaker 1: Patricia Gallagher Newberry from the Inquirer Cincinnatia dot com with

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Speaker 1: us and so, Patty, the plan is to build this

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Speaker 1: beside the current viaduct and then tear the viaduct down.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm reading, Is that right?

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Speaker 3: That that is correct, and that's been the plan all along.

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Speaker 3: So it'll be just south and fifty miles excuse me.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be and somewhere in Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty feet south of the the new one will

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Speaker 3: go up and then when it's done, which will be

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Speaker 3: twenty thirty one is what they're saying, then the old

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Speaker 3: one will come down in its one hundredth year centennial

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Speaker 3: and last birthday that the old viaduct celebrates, so it'll

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Speaker 3: be imploded when the new one is up and operational

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Speaker 3: and tied in at both ends seventy five and then

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Speaker 3: to west side streets.

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Speaker 2: So that's exactly what's gonna happen with the Brent Spensbridge.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna build one right next to it and then

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Speaker 2: tear down the old structure, so so very similar.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no correction, both

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Speaker 3: the Brent Spence stays it becomes the local okay, okay, connects, yeah,

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Speaker 3: connects into Cincinnati and into Covington.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And then the brand the brand new companion bridge that

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Speaker 3: doesn't have a name yet will be built to its

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Speaker 3: immediate west and it will become the I seventy five

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Speaker 3: new one, gotcha, and that one, that one they should

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Speaker 3: have shovel in the water. Next year we'll start to

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Speaker 3: see some actual you know, cranes and pylons and so forth,

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Speaker 3: good in the Ohio River.

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Speaker 1: That yeah, I think situation is going to be fun.

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Speaker 1: That will be fun. But no, thanks for clarifying that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the the old viaduct will will come down

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Speaker 2: and for for the viaduct shovels in the ground when.

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Speaker 3: Next year they'll be doing found work and that's going

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Speaker 3: to take through twenty twenty eight, so you won't see

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Speaker 3: any you know, deck work going up on the new

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Speaker 3: one until twenty twenty eight, and then that'll take about

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Speaker 3: three years for completion.

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Speaker 1: All right, with the with that pet what again? It's

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Speaker 1: are people upset about this or were people ready to

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Speaker 1: make concessions anyway? Just get something done, just to get

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Speaker 1: something done, because like groc and I were talking and

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Speaker 1: Willie was talking about it, it seems like every project

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Speaker 1: that comes around in the city, it somehow gets around

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Speaker 1: it being kind of half assed at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day.

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Speaker 5: Well, those are your words, not mine.

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Speaker 1: I know that's my words for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just say, you know, I haven't I haven't

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Speaker 3: actually talked to any commuters on this latest change. But

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Speaker 3: I think the city is just accepting the reality is

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Speaker 3: the price of materials, the price of labor have gone up,

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Speaker 3: so we want the thing.

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Speaker 5: To be built. You know, I asked, is this thing

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Speaker 3: And they're, you know, they're very resolute that it's going forward,

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Speaker 3: and that the way to go forward is to you know,

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Speaker 3: right size it or downsize it a bit so that

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Speaker 3: they can match the dollars they have to what it's

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Speaker 3: actually going to cost.

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Speaker 5: And get it done.

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Speaker 2: So all right, well, Patty, great stuff. I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: you laying this out for us.

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Speaker 1: You bet you to take care, take care, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Batricia Gallagher and Newberry from The Inquirer since ninety dot com.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I look, it's a it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a turn of a phrase, half ast but I know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I can't get why she she wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want me to put those words in her mouth because

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Speaker 1: she's a reporter. But right, it kind of doesn't that

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Speaker 1: always see in that way? Yeah, yeah, it does, Yeah

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Speaker 1: it does. And look, it always goes that way.

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Speaker 2: It's never like you know what we're able to you know,

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Speaker 2: with the same amount of funds, we're able to reach

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Speaker 2: out to some different contractors and we're able to get

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Speaker 2: more then we normally that that never happens, right, especially

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Speaker 2: when it comes comes to government. So I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is usually the way it goes because well we wanted

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Speaker 2: to you know, have all you.

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Speaker 1: Know, gold plated you know, roadways, but that's not gonna

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Speaker 1: happen now. But look at it, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: the same with the banks, and it seems the same

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Speaker 1: with Great American Ballpark and even to a certain degree,

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Speaker 1: pay Corps and all that stuff. It just seems like,

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Speaker 1: you know, okay, granted, I know it sounds like nothing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we could save a quarter million dollars here, blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah by doing this. Well, you know what, look

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Speaker 1: at these other stadiums in the other cities. Granted, Vegas

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Speaker 1: has a lot of money, so does LA I get it,

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Speaker 1: But can't we sometimes just put a little extra, just

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Speaker 1: a little kick into it and go, damn am nice,

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Speaker 1: that's nice, No to be, it's adequate.

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Speaker 2: On a completely different note here, obviously, we've been talking

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Speaker 2: was scheduled for Mason High School this weekend. You know,

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Speaker 2: lots of folks Willie myself very vocal byt let's move

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Speaker 2: that thing to pay Corps and do it right. Officially

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Speaker 2: came down and that's what's going to happen now. Someone

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Speaker 2: who was really integral in making this happen, and I

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Speaker 2: talked to her, Denise Treehouse, and she just released a

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Speaker 2: statement quote, there will be a once in a lifetime

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Speaker 2: opportunity for so many young men who take the field

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Speaker 2: Friday night. Pay Corp is a publicly owned stadium and

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Speaker 2: it only makes sense that the public should be able

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Speaker 2: to access it for big events like Elder versus Sex.

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful for Katie Blackburn and the Bengals organization and

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Speaker 2: partnering to make this happen. This is one of my

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Speaker 2: of many similar events to come. So again, that's a

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Speaker 2: statement from Denise tree House and I definitely want to

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Speaker 2: reach out and say thank you to Commissioner dree House

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Speaker 2: for really pushing.

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Speaker 1: That getting that thing done. Job, well done, awesome. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: we got traffick in weather what is going on? Talking

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Speaker 1: to Petty Newbery from the Inquirer, and we were talking

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Speaker 1: about how everything tends to be half assed these days.

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Speaker 1: No offense to our friends at the Cincinnati Bengal or

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Speaker 1: what the Bengals or the Reds, but the Reds we

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Speaker 1: are the home with the rest by the way.

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Speaker 6: And uh.

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Speaker 1: But I was always kind of all right, you build

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Speaker 1: been to other ballparks and they're beautiful, and I would say,

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Speaker 1: and again, I get it, it's a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: but can't we one day around here build something that's

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Speaker 1: built to last for one hundred years. I mean, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: and make it cool and classic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess you know, it comes down the

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Speaker 2: money and that you know, do do people want their

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Speaker 2: levies raised and taxes raised and all that. But but

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Speaker 2: I just say, in general, you and I were talking

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Speaker 2: during the break, it's like, there's no buildings that are

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Speaker 2: built like that, just are just top top notch, like

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Speaker 2: both functionally and esthetically. And I think the only place

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Speaker 2: feel like, are on college campuses, right because because they

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Speaker 2: can go to a donor and say, look, you know

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Speaker 2: this building is gonna have your name on it, right.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, we need thirty million bucks.

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Speaker 2: And that thing is is built to survive a nuclear

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Speaker 2: bomb and looks unbelievable brick and the whole ornate everything.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of buildings these days are just

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Speaker 1: You know, And that's what we were talking about.

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Speaker 2: Is Now there's got to be you know, this safety measure,

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Speaker 1: Well, coming up, put on your safety harness. Because we're

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Speaker 1: going to be talking to the Queen. Now there may

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Speaker 2: You might have to we're trying to get a commissioner

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, you will be listening to a powerful woman

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Speaker 1: News right now seven hundred WLW, the Elder.

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Speaker 2: Playoff game has in fact been moved from Mason down

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Speaker 2: the pay Court Stadium. And you know something Willie and

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm in a good mood.

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Speaker 4: Yes, let me can.

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Speaker 8: I just say though, that it took Willie reaching out

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Speaker 8: but credit where credits due. I mean the impetus came

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so explain the machinations going on here? Denise? Where

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Speaker 8: So talk to Willie a little bit about it. I'm

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Speaker 8: we're open to this. Would you think about moving it

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Speaker 8: because I'm hearing horror stories right at these schools where

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Speaker 8: And then it took you know, the County Commission to say.

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Speaker 4: Ye to it as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the issue a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: Great place.

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Speaker 2: But since it's about you know, six thousand people, and

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Speaker 1: So it just it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: And you know, they released the tickets during school hours,

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Speaker 8: These well there there Actually there's quite a bit to

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Speaker 8: opening that thing up on a day that you didn't anticipate.

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Speaker 8: Remember the Beangals are in town on Sunday, so that's

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Speaker 8: a quick turnaround for them. We can do it, but

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Speaker 8: this kind of game. I mean, this is exciting stuff

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Speaker 2: And look, when you're talking about the regional finals every year,

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Speaker 2: It's going to be Saint Axe is gonna be Outer,

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Speaker 2: I mean you you're talking about some and others I

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Speaker 2: it just makes sense to just let's make this precedent

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Speaker 1: That'd be great.

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Speaker 8: I think that'd be great too, but that's not my decision.

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Speaker 1: To make right right.

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Speaker 8: But here we are right doing this setting a precedent.

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Speaker 8: You know, this is again this is the first four

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Speaker 8: So here we are right, and it's and it's quicker

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Speaker 1: County Commissioner Denise Treehouses our guest and Denise So who

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Speaker 1: I don't know understand, not that it matter, just one

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Bengals manage all of that. And so this

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Speaker 8: technical questions on what do you need, what do we

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Speaker 2: Well, like you said, hopefully that the precedent is set

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Speaker 2: we really appreciate your time and great job, and thank

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, got it. Denise Dreehouse are our guest, and uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's man. Talk about getting a lot of there's a

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Speaker 2: And where I had started to hear that this may happen,

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Speaker 1: Well, Rock, I don't know if you got another call

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Speaker 1: to together for us, but I'm saying that we might

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Speaker 1: have Kerry Combs on the line. Kerry Combs on the line,

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Speaker 1: I do believe he is. Kerry Combs, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 8: Hey, how you guys do today? Good?

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're talking tri state football, okay, you're talking

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Speaker 9: I'm fantastic. I gotta tell you. I just called because

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Speaker 9: And you know, the Bengals deserve a ton of credit

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Speaker 9: because this is not easy for them to do, and

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Speaker 9: it's not just open up the stadium and let people

438
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Speaker 9: come in. I mean it affects the coaches and the

439
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 9: players and everybody affiliate with the Bengals, you know, the

440
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 9: Brown family. This this is significant. And I know Mike

441
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 9: Brown loves high school football. I know how it feels

442
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 9: about it. I had a great opportunity to coach down

443
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 9: there in that stadium and some pretty dagon big games,

444
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 9: and it was it was a phenomenal experience for my

445
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 9: players and and it's something they'll never forget. So I'm

446
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 9: expecting they're going to get forty your fifty thousand people

447
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 9: down there this weekend. You got two great high school

448
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 9: teams with great tradition, two great coaches. It's just really

449
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 9: exciting that they're that they're gonna do that. I just

450
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 9: tell you, it just makes me love being a Cincinnatian.

451
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Speaker 1: Rocky, you know what I mean, there's no doubt, bro.

452
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Speaker 2: And and look, you know when I played, when you

453
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: were coaching these these big regional playoff games, they were

454
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Speaker 2: at Knipper, they were at you know, at the time,

455
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: Paul Brown Stadium. For what a reason that that went

456
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Speaker 2: away my understanding. And you may know this, Carrie, like

457
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: the reason why they can't be held at Nipper anymore

458
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 2: is as a recruiting violation.

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Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what you've heard as well? It is, okay, it.

460
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Speaker 9: Is, And it was so frustrating last year we were

461
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 9: gonna play. We were trying to get the city championship

462
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 9: down there because you know, those kids, uh from the

463
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 9: city schools don't get to play in some of those

464
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Speaker 9: environments and stadiums, and so we were gonna do a

465
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 9: doubleheader uh city championship games down there, and uh NCAA

466
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 9: wouldn't let us do it. And you know we used

467
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 9: to have the early season the opening game there and

468
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 9: and everybody played and everybody went. They can't I can't

469
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Speaker 9: imagine in any conceivable way that that's some kind of

470
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Speaker 9: recruiting advantage. And never never felt that way. I was

471
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Speaker 9: on both sides of it as a high school coach

472
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 9: and as a college coach. Never felt like that at all.

473
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Speaker 9: It just felt like this is where people ought to be.

474
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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know if you played in games

475
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 9: down there. I coached in a ton of them effort

476
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 9: where people were hanging off the rafters. It was sold out.

477
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 9: We lived out before they did.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, played three of them down there.

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow.

480
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Speaker 9: Fantastic, And so I'm really glad the Bengals stepped up.

481
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 9: I'm just telling you, man, it just and you guys

482
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 9: had a big part in it. Don't think that you didn't.

483
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 9: Between Willie and you getting it on the air and

484
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 9: pumping that and uh you know, uh God bless mus

485
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 9: Greehouse and Katie obviously for putting it together because that's

486
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 9: not easy for the Bengals. I'm telling you that Bengals

487
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 9: deserve a ton of credit on this. This is a huge,

488
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 9: huge thing for them, and it's only because they love

489
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Speaker 9: high school football. My guess is ROCKETF you go around,

490
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Speaker 9: uh the other thirty two thirty one NFL teams, you

491
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Speaker 9: probably aren't going to find any high school games being

492
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Speaker 9: played in any of those seams to the home game

493
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Speaker 9: on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a great point. Well, well, now all these happenings,

495
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: you need to be out there for the opening coin flip.

496
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Speaker 2: I mean, let let's make this thing full circle, right,

497
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: Let's get the embodiment of high school football out there

498
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Speaker 2: and flip the coin.

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Speaker 9: Right, It'll be, it'd be. It'd be a ton of fun.

500
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Speaker 9: I love seeing Doug and Steve and love seeing the game.

501
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Speaker 4: It would be.

502
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Speaker 9: It just does my hard good. High school football Cincinnati

503
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 9: is different than anywhere else.

504
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: I've told you that.

505
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Speaker 9: I told people that all over the country it just is,

506
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 9: and uh in the state of Ohio, but especially in Cincinnati,

507
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 9: it's it's remarkable and I'm just so excited for those

508
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 9: teams and those kids and just our town in general.

509
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 9: You know, it's just it's what and you know we

510
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 9: need that in the fall, right, you need that kind

511
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 9: of excitement and energy. It's just just fantastic.

512
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Speaker 2: Carrie very Well said, we really appreciate calling the show

513
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: and checking in, my friend, and hope you do it

514
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: again soon.

515
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

516
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 9: All right, Hey, good luck with your boys teams too.

517
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Speaker 1: Now, thanks, Carry, appreciate you, Bud. Yeah, yeah to Kerry,

518
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: Kerry Comb's just a bat. How about that Carry comes

519
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: calling a Rocky show. I thought you would have raised them.

520
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, you didn't tell me this.

521
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 10: Going on.

522
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Speaker 1: I'm on the phone.

523
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 2: I was trying to get pull my hair out, trying

524
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: to get that commissioner of Dreehouse on. I'm trying to

525
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: get Tim Streed from the OHSA to come on to

526
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Speaker 2: talk about it.

527
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Speaker 1: But yeah, and Carry calls about that. Cool, that's great,

528
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: he's the best with that. We check in with trafficking weather,

529
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Speaker 1: What is going on? All right?

530
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Speaker 2: On a completely other tangent here, I saw this story

531
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Speaker 2: and see, these are the things that interest me. Maybe

532
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: not well, I know you, you and I are kind

533
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: of interested in the same things, especially two things. Yeah,

534
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, nonetheless, nonetheless it's generational snakes observed wiping poison

535
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Speaker 2: off frogs before eating them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the snakes are getting smarter.

537
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Speaker 2: So a royal ground snake was given in a test,

538
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Speaker 2: was given a potentially lethal frogs was given potentially lethal

539
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: frogs to eat. Okay, so instead of eating the frogs,

540
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: was carry poison on top of their skin. The snakes

541
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Speaker 2: were observed wrapping around the frogs and dragging them to

542
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: wipe the poison and off before eating. Okay, so he

543
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: was limited by small sample size. Ten snakes each was

544
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Speaker 2: presented with three striped poison dark frogs.

545
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Speaker 1: Okay, and I eight these things. They're dead, right.

546
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Speaker 2: Of the ten snakes, six refuse to participate, so they're

547
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: like nothing because I know it has poison. Four of

548
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: the snakes engaged in dragging the frog around on its

549
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: back to get rid of the poison. And then and

550
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Speaker 2: three of those four snakes survived.

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Speaker 1: See now that's all we need to do. Four snakes

552
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Speaker 1: to develop superior intelligence. Right, because I don't like them,

553
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: I know you don't like them, and they start getting

554
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: smart and or growing arms and stuff, I'm out, I'm out.

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00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: I will. I would tell the story I told a

556
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: long time ago, and it anybody would have been to

557
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: the same boat as me. In my in my old house,

558
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: I was coming up the steps we lived, I've told

559
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: that before. We lived next to ole woods, so there

560
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: were all kinds of critters running, you know, roaming around

561
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Speaker 1: the property. And I went down into the basement to

562
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Speaker 1: get like we had a fridge down in the basement

563
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Speaker 1: and went down there to get a popper or whatever

564
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Speaker 1: the hell with. And I'm walking up the steps and

565
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Speaker 1: it's kind of dark down there, and I see this.

566
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Speaker 1: When the kids were little, and I see this. They

567
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: had all these rubber critters that they played with. And

568
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Speaker 1: I see once on the on the step in front

569
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Speaker 1: of me, and I reached down to pick it up,

570
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Speaker 1: thinking it's a rubber snake. Oh no, it was real, Ian, dude,

571
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Speaker 1: I about, well, it wasn't. It was just one of

572
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Speaker 1: those things where I didn't think it was alive. And

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Speaker 1: soon I reached down there and it just went good

574
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Speaker 1: and wiggled away, and I almost fell backwards down the steps.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I did not expect that. Uh, nor

576
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: do I want to expect it again.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: With that thought of mind, we check in. Yeah, so

579
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Speaker 2: we got a state rep out of Matthews up Jornesse. Yeah,

580
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: he's got some legislation, you know, kind of timely with

581
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Speaker 2: what we're talking about with getting this high school game

582
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: moved to pay Corps.

583
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: He's put for some legislation.

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Speaker 2: Uh that once you know, anytime you know there's a

585
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: stadium that has you know, tax dollars involved in it, right,

586
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: community ownership. Uh, that they that game, that the prices

587
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: should be on par with what you would get at

588
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: say a high school venue. So he'll explain that next

589
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: after the news News Radio seven hundred w l W.

590
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Speaker 2: All right back with Eddie and Rocky.

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Speaker 1: And rock this is a this is a kind of

592
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: cool story here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's timely because we're dealing with the big

594
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: news that the older sext football game is going to

595
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: go down to pay for stadium. And by the way,

596
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean a big shout out to the Bengals or

597
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: were very interchol and you know, none of this happens

598
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 2: without them giving their blessing to have a high scho

599
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: game in their pro stadium.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But there's state rep here locally that is introduced some

602
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: legislation or drafting some legislation whereas any taxpayer subsidized stadium

603
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Speaker 2: in the state, So that could be the Bengals stadium,

604
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: that could be the Browns News Stadium, whatever it is.

605
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: If they're taking taxpayer dollars, a concession would be that

606
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Speaker 2: they reduce any fees so that tickets would be the

607
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Speaker 2: same price as your average high school venue.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: So again, very very timely, and that State Rep of course,

610
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: is a good friend of the show, Adam Matthews, who

611
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: coincidentally is the say next guy?

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Speaker 1: Did I mention it? Anyway, Adam Matthews, I welcome to program.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 11: Doing great?

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Speaker 1: To do it great?

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Speaker 11: I'm still excited for these young gentlemen both at Eleder

617
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Speaker 11: and X where uh they're gonna This has been a

618
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 11: once in a lifetime memory. So again, like you said,

619
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Speaker 11: congratulations and thank you to the Bengals. One of my

620
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Speaker 11: my formative memories was at Paul Brown Stadium. We beat

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Speaker 11: Cole Raine twelve to nine and to a crowd of

622
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Speaker 11: tens of thousands, and it's it's incredible. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 11: And the Bingos have stepped up to really build.

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Speaker 1: The community here.

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Speaker 11: So this is this is wonderful, wonderful news.

626
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Speaker 1: Wonderful news.

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00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: And again timely because you're you're drafting some legislation that

628
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: I guess it might be beneficial especially to viewers of

629
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Speaker 2: that might want to go to these kind of games,

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Speaker 2: big games that are held at at bigger stadium.

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Speaker 1: So explain what you got going on.

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Speaker 12: Yes, so.

633
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Speaker 11: We heard and we're trying to chase down how true

634
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Speaker 11: of The reasoning was that the OHSAA was did not

635
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Speaker 11: look at the Bingos Stadium or the other places like

636
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Speaker 11: that because of cost, and that's really unfortunate. The if

637
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 11: you're going to have taxpayer dollars going into these facilities,

638
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 11: then they should be community assets. When we look to

639
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 11: have the Lender Center of Tennis up in Mason, take

640
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 11: taxpayer dollars. We opened it up so that it wouldn't

641
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 11: just be it for the professional tournament, but now it

642
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 11: has at very low cost. The girls and boys State

643
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Speaker 11: Tennis finals are there and you look up at the

644
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 11: Brown Stadium in that huge infrastructure that's being built out there,

645
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Speaker 11: and I think that the Bengals are going to look

646
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Speaker 11: for a renovation. But if you're going to have taxpayer

647
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 11: dollars going to this, then when the Bengals and the

648
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 11: pros are not using it, it should be available for

649
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Speaker 11: the community. And what better than Friday night lights so

650
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Speaker 11: that you can have these venues where State AX and

651
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Speaker 11: Elder have ten thousand seats on a normal regular season game,

652
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Speaker 11: so when it gets to these regional finals, you should

653
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Speaker 11: have venues that have thirty, forty fifty sixty thousand seats

654
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Speaker 11: and they'll fill up.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and available to the every day.

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Speaker 2: Right and and to your point with your legislation, I

657
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Speaker 2: assume the heart of this is in you know, I

658
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Speaker 2: don't know not the Bengals would do this, I don't think,

659
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Speaker 2: but that that you know, a pro venue wouldn't all

660
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Speaker 2: of a sudden want to start charging pro prices where

661
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Speaker 2: now a ticket to this great playoff high school game

662
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Speaker 2: is going to cost seventy or no, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be in line with your normal ticket right of you know,

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Speaker 2: seven eight ten bucks that sort of.

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Speaker 11: Thing exactly, or that they look at their normal cost

666
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Speaker 11: of it. It is very expensive, and I understand it's

667
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Speaker 11: very expensive to run kind of a small city on

668
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Speaker 11: a NFL game day to make sure that that's not

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Speaker 11: a barrier to entry for these locations to being open

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Speaker 11: to the community.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we're talking to Ada Matthews here, stay

672
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Speaker 1: rep and the guys. One thing I haven't heard are

673
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Speaker 1: are the schools paying the Bengals to use the stadium?

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Speaker 1: Are they donating? And I have not heard that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the details, but imagine new Yeah,

676
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Speaker 2: well you explain, Adam.

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00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I.

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Speaker 13: Know that there's a play in public statement at five

679
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 13: o'clock today, and so they'll come out with all of that,

680
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 13: and it's still no matter what it is, it's very

681
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 13: gracious for the Bengals to respond in this last minute way.

682
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Speaker 2: Right, And I'm sure they organized in a way that's

683
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: it's not you know, chopping the head off anybody here,

684
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: right and either school or the HSAA and all that.

685
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: So, yeah, this is this is fantastic.

686
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Speaker 11: And I also give credit Mason Is where it was

687
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Speaker 11: going to be located. It's a great stadium. It's just

688
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Speaker 11: smaller than either the home stadiums of either X or Elder.

689
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Speaker 11: So this is and a good credit to this agility

690
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Speaker 11: for everyone coming together to step up, seeing a problem

691
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Speaker 11: and adjusting very good. And he makes the play call,

692
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Speaker 11: but you adjust on the field.

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Speaker 1: That's the way you do it.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: So with your legislation that you're crafting right now, when

696
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Speaker 2: do we expect to maybe see that end of the.

697
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Speaker 1: House floor for a vote or get considered or discussed or.

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Speaker 11: What so right now, we are working, We are reaching

699
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Speaker 11: out to HSAA making sure that we don't step on contracts,

700
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Speaker 11: but want to make sure that it's these communities that

701
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Speaker 11: love their high school sports, these communities that Live and

702
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Speaker 11: Die on Friday Night are made home. I believe we'll

703
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Speaker 11: have something introduced and have committees when we come back

704
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Speaker 11: early next year. This week is likely our last week

705
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Speaker 11: before Thanksgiving and Christmas, so we'll get back to work

706
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Speaker 11: right after that.

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Speaker 1: Very good, that's great, Adam.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well listen, we appreciate all you're doing here and

709
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: again especially very timely with what's going on, and I

710
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on the show and keep us posting.

711
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: How this thing goes right. Absolutely all right, thanks so much, Bud.

712
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: Of course they wrap out of Matthews. So when you

713
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: were where did you play? When you're in high school?

714
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Speaker 1: We played Nippert so weight.

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Speaker 2: So my freshman year I got the dress varsity and

716
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Speaker 2: we played at Knippert. And then my let's see, yeah,

717
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Speaker 2: senior year, we played at Knippert against Hamilton one, and

718
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Speaker 2: then we played the next week played Moler at Knippert.

719
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Speaker 1: Lost, But yeah, so I've played yeah three times there.

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Speaker 1: What was it as a What was it like as

721
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Speaker 1: a high school kid playing in front of a crowd

722
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Speaker 1: like that? I mean, obviously Nippert back then wasn't it

723
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Speaker 1: wasn't huge like it is now. It was still a damn.

724
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Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Yeah, it felt you know, even

725
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Speaker 1: even then, it was like you could really feel like

726
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Speaker 1: that thing was packed, you know it. No, it was great.

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Speaker 1: That was back and they had the old field turf,

728
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Speaker 1: I mean, like not field turf, like the old like

729
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Speaker 1: turf turf, you know.

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Speaker 9: What I mean.

731
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Speaker 1: So anyway, I just I recall that. But well, I'm

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Speaker 1: fun My buddies from Dayton a few of them came

733
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Speaker 1: down here to school and to go to U See,

734
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Speaker 1: and I remember back then you could walk out in

735
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Speaker 1: the field at Nippert. We're out there throwing frisbee and

736
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Speaker 1: just kind of horsing around and stuff, and nobody has

737
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Speaker 1: said anything to us.

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Speaker 4: Have some fun.

739
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let it go have fun. All right? With that,

740
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Speaker 1: we check in with traffic and weather, what is going on?

741
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Speaker 9: All right?

742
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: Back with Eddie and Rocky coming up after the bottom

743
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Speaker 1: of the hour news, we're gonna be talking to our

744
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: good friend Dave Hatter about this cloud flair thing that

745
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: happened today. Now you didn't experience it, right, I did not,

746
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Speaker 1: because every any website I tried to go on, well

747
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Speaker 1: it kind of alternated, you know. I tried to access

748
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Speaker 1: my work email, nothing hornwork try to access those other sites.

749
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Speaker 1: Thank god. Any right, that's where you had to. I

750
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Speaker 1: had some to do, but no, but any anyway by

751
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Speaker 1: leg Cincinnati dot cot and it didn't matter. Then I

752
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Speaker 1: would go back to it a minute later and it

753
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Speaker 1: would work. And that's what we're going to talk to

754
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Speaker 1: him about that. Apparently this was I guess worldwide.

755
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, per down Detector. Some of the

756
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 2: websites hit were x A League of Legends, Grinder.

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Speaker 1: Which I know you That's what I was. Bump we all.

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Speaker 10: Some I'm old, I don't care anymore, something called anyway

759
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 10: I can't even know. I'm move on real quick. At

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Speaker 10: six and eight tonight, last Callista is going to have

761
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 10: Pat Kelsey. Right, other than the high school football game,

762
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 10: there's a big UC versus Louisville basketball game.

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Speaker 2: And so I was going to talk that big game

764
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Speaker 2: and I'm sure I know, give information about tickets and

765
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: all that sort of thing, but that'll be good. In

766
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: other news, ed on This Day in History nineteen ninety three.

767
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Speaker 2: If you tuned into one MTV, you might have heard

768
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Speaker 2: this song. They're very famous. Nirvana and Plugged recorded their

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Speaker 2: on This Day in History. They actually recorded their MTV

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Speaker 2: Unplugged Special.

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Speaker 1: At Sony Studios in New York. They of course played

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Speaker 1: a set list really have kind of lesser known stuff

773
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Speaker 1: right their own songs. Yeah, this is like this is

774
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: a David Bowie. Yeah.

775
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some meat puppets, you know whatever. But this,

776
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: I remember this album was huge in nineteen ninety three thirteen.

777
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: I had to tell everybody had this tape. Everybody, and

778
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: this was just really groundbreaking stuff to see this grunge

779
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: kind of heavy band sit there.

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Speaker 1: And now I wasn't truly unplugged. It was just toned down.

781
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no, less you get the idea. For

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00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: my money, if this isn't the best unplugged show, I'd

783
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: like to know what's better in that. But it's certainly

784
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: in top two or three. I'm trying to think of

785
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: another good one. Alison Chains, I would say those two

786
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: are neck and neck. I would go, this is the

787
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Speaker 1: best one. I can't argue. I'm not going to argue,

788
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: but right below that would be the Alison Chains one.

789
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: Because well, I told that story not too long ago.

790
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Speaker 1: I put that on in a CD in my truck

791
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: and we were driving back from Gatlinburg, and Dev says

792
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: this is good.

793
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 4: Who is this?

794
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: Because I had said it wasn't she said in Nirvana

795
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, no, no it's not. But pound

796
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: for you know, that'd be a good topic one day

797
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: because one of the I think I've told you this before,

798
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: look it up because it's really good. L L cool

799
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: J Mama said, knock you out. I was just gonna

800
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: mention that dude that live he killed it. I know

801
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, Okay, this is going to

802
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: be corny, but it was like, this is pretty good. Yeah,

803
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's pretty talented.

804
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: Now I was looking, so I'm looking up here list

805
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: of artists featured by MTV and plugged. I remember one

806
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: of the very first ones I saw, and this is

807
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: nineteen eight one, the first year they did this.

808
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: Now I remember it.

809
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: Ten thousand maniacs. That was because then, you know that

810
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 2: was that was a huge, huge song. Let's see who else,

811
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: Great White, I don't remember them doing it. I remember

812
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't remember Aerosmith doing it either.

813
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Remember that one.

814
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: Eric Clapton, Oh clap he did Layla unplugged oust and

815
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: iconic Tears in Heaven. Tears in Heaven brought the house down,

816
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: brought the house down. Yes, so I don't even I

817
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: don't remember. I remember Katie Lang doing Okay, Bruce Springsteen,

818
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: I remember him.

819
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Doing oh yeah he did see again. He was kind

820
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Speaker 1: of like I wasn't really unplugged. It was kind of

821
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: sort of just like Nirvana down a little bit not

822
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Speaker 1: ye So yeah, no, I mean that was that was

823
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Speaker 1: just that was great. I think your good friends did it.

824
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to forget that you were probably did you

825
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Speaker 1: too do it. I'm sure that's probably when they stopped

826
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: doing there like this ain't working, you know, and i'

827
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: remember that, but I'm pretty sure that you did it.

828
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Speaker 1: They certainly did.

829
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Speaker 2: So I'm looking at like the last year, God that

830
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: they did this all the way until now again I'll

831
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Speaker 2: learn what.

832
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Speaker 1: You know and what the form it took. But I

833
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: mean this says it going all the way to I

834
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: mean way late.

835
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Speaker 2: I mean after a while, it wasn't like the true

836
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: unplugged some yeah here in two thousand and one, Ram, yeah,

837
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Speaker 2: Lauryn Hill remember that one, kind of so lots more set.

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Speaker 1: I remember that one.

839
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

840
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we're gonna be talking to our good friend

842
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: Dave Header about this cloud flare thing that happened this morning,

843
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: but now it's the news News Radio seven hundred w

844
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Speaker 1: L All right back with Eddian, Rocky and Rocky. This morning.

845
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Speaker 1: You said you did an experience, but it was kind

846
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Speaker 1: of it was very dodgy with me, and I thought

847
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Speaker 1: it was just my home internet screwing up again, because

848
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of screwy. But a cloud flare, it's crowded.

849
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Speaker 1: Cloud flare is a well, let's let's ask our guy here,

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00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: Dave Header about it. Hey, Dave, how you doing, buddy?

851
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 4: I'm good, guys, how you doing it?

852
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: So what why don't you explain to us what cloud

853
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: flare is? I've seen that screen before that popped up

854
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Speaker 1: this morning. I got told rock I was just trying

855
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Speaker 1: to access my work email and I get this cloud

856
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: flare screen.

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00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that, Ed, because I saw

858
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Speaker 4: a lot of systems down all over the internet. In fact,

859
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Speaker 4: just looking at a quick short list here e commerce platform, Shopify,

860
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 4: job search Engine, indeed, anthropics, claud chatbot, elon Musk's platform

861
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Speaker 4: X down Detector, which is a site many people use

862
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Speaker 4: to try to figure out is there some sort of

863
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: widespread out it's going on? Ironically, it was down itself,

864
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Speaker 4: and apparently open Ai, which makes Chatchyputine sort had some

865
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Speaker 4: of their apps down, So cloud Flare is kind of

866
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Speaker 4: hard to explain to someone who's not a nerd. Basically,

867
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Speaker 4: imagine a company that provides a variety of services something

868
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Speaker 4: called content caching, where they can copy the content of

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Speaker 4: your website and then move it to different servers all

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Speaker 4: around the Internet so it's closer to places. So instead

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Speaker 4: of having to go maybe multiple hops off the Internet

872
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 4: to get to it, they can pull it from a

873
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 4: server that's closer so it loads faster. That's one of

874
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: the things. It's called content delivery or content delivery network.

875
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: They act as a reverse proxy, which is basically fancy

876
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: nerd speak, where they sit in between a user and

877
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 4: your website and when someone requests the content from your

878
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: website or a web based application again Shopify, things like that,

879
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 4: they're sitting in between there, you're hitting them first, and

880
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 4: then they check out that request, try to determine isn't

881
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: rigit doesn't have any kind of malicious content, and then

882
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: stow it on to the legitimate site. And they also

883
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 4: try to stop distributed denial of service attacks. I'm sure

884
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 4: we've talked about that in the past, the idea where

885
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 4: you have Internet of Things devices, maybe at one time

886
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: set top cable boxes. We're co opted by bad guys

887
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: and they use these things that just launch enormous amounts

888
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: of traffic at certain websites to try and bring them down,

889
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: just overload them with so many requests. So those are

890
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: three of the main things cloud player is doing. And

891
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 4: I've seen numbers of twenty percent of the entire Internet

892
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: is using one or more of these services from crowdflay.

893
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: So if they have a hiccup like we saw today,

894
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: it's pretty pretty catastrophic to a substantial portion of the Internet.

895
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 4: Thankfully they were able to fix it fairly quickly.

896
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: Interesting, I mean, so, I mean, how how often can

897
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: we expect these things?

898
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: Well, Rocky hopefully not at all. And you know, one

899
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 4: of the concerns I have had talk to you guys about,

900
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 4: I talk about this all the time, is we are

901
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: moving so fast with all this technology. You know, we

902
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: just saw the AWS outage a week of TJ that

903
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 4: knocked out a substantial portion of the Internet. You guys

904
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: may recall we talked about the crowd strike outage, where

905
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: you have what is ASSINCI, an antivirus program that, due

906
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 4: to an update, caused a massive outage across the internet

907
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: last year. And my concern with all of this is

908
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: our society is increasingly reliant on all this technology, like

909
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 4: you said, educating and get your email. You know, lots

910
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 4: of sites were down and while you know some video

911
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 4: game site is down, that's one thing. If people's businesses

912
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: are down because they've relied on one of these services,

913
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 4: that's a real problem. And especially if it affects our

914
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 4: critical infrastructure. If you can't roll ambulances, if you water

915
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: plant goes down, if the electrical grid goes down as

916
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 4: a result, who be saying it's a serious problem. And

917
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 4: you know, my concern with all of this is most

918
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 4: software and you know this is all software making this

919
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: work is really not focused on security and robustness and uptime.

920
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: It's focused on things like speed the market, ease of use,

921
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: and market share. And you know, when there are ways

922
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 4: to build systems that are resilient and very difficult to

923
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 4: break down. I mean, you know, you get hit with

924
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 4: an EMP, you get hit with a solar storm, there's

925
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: probably nothing you could do about that. But you can

926
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: build systems that are resilient, It costs more money, it

927
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: takes more time, it's more difficult to do, and you know,

928
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: when you see these kind of outagies, it really makes

929
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 4: me concerned. Thankfully, there are organizations out there like SAISM,

930
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: a Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, push the idea of

931
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: secure by design and focus on critical infrastructure, because even

932
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 4: though this is a private company, you could argue it's

933
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: critical infrastructure because so many other companies rely on them

934
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 4: for protection and to speed things up and so forth.

935
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: And you know, as a society, we have just got

936
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 4: to get serious that think it's serious, and you've got

937
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 4: to do it now about building systems that are resilient

938
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: and focused on uptime. Because this is only down for

939
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: a couple hours for the most part. Imagine if this

940
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: were still down, or if it were down for days

941
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: or weeks, what a problem this would be.

942
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and David, how does that? How does this get repaired? Well,

943
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: you said fairly quickly, But it said it was taken

944
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: care of by you know, early morning. But I'll tell

945
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: you it was. It was affecting my computer until shoot,

946
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: almost noon, I would say.

947
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. So according to one article that I read, it

948
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 4: said a few sites came back online within a few hours. Now,

949
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 4: cloud Fare, like all of these large Internet cloud based companies,

950
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: will have some kind of status page administrator, whatever you

951
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: want to call it. You can kind of go see

952
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: what's going on again. A lot of people will use

953
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: the website downdetector dot com, which ironically was knocked out

954
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 4: by this at least for a short period of time.

955
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: Of course, you know cloud Fare, a cloud FLARIR spokesperson said, quote,

956
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 4: the root cause of the average was an automated generated

957
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 4: configuration file used to manage spread traffic that grew beyond

958
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 4: the expected size of interesting entries and cause the crash

959
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: and the system that handles traffic for several of its services.

960
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: Was first reported around five twenty am, so it was

961
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: mostly fixed by about ten am. But again, guys, when

962
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 4: you read what they said, first off, they're saying not

963
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: a cyber attack. This is essentially a configuration slash software error.

964
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 4: Configuration error slash software error. And again, people write this software.

965
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: You know, That's what I did for over twenty five years.

966
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: People make mistakes, and when you have critical services that

967
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 4: rely on this stuff, you really can't afford these kind

968
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 4: of mistakes. Again, Thankfully they were able to get to

969
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: the bottom of it quickly. But to me, this is

970
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 4: just another indication, especially in light of the AWS outage

971
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: and these other outages we've seen. And I'll just say this, guys,

972
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: without going too far down the rabbit hole, the idea

973
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 4: of any kind of central bank digital currency, if you

974
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: want to know why, it's a terrible idea, despite the

975
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 4: privacy and surveillance aspects. Just imagine this takes down the

976
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 4: banking system for three or four days and you can't

977
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 4: you can't get any kind of money because it's all digital.

978
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: Think about how that would work out.

979
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: I wonder what, because I feel like that's going to happen,

980
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: is everyone gets further and further away from using real money.

981
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: I mean some places don't, I mean increasingly more and

982
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: more don't even don't take money.

983
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Don't take money.

984
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: And yes, what happens if a computer crashes, are a

985
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: cloud flare happens, Everyone's going to lose your mind, you know,

986
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 2: especially if it happens over the course of three days

987
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: or a week.

988
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a I know people don't like to talk

989
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 4: about this. I know people don't like to think about this,

990
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 4: but again, Rockie we have just got to get serious

991
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: about as we become increasingly reliant on this technology, making

992
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: sure that the fundamental focus is on up time and

993
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: resilience as opposed to things like cost and market share

994
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 4: and so forth, because once this goes down for any

995
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: extinct it's going to be a major problem, especially again

996
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 4: if it can take down on critical infrastructure sectors like

997
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: the electrical grid or water plants or you know, emergency services.

998
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 4: Think about the potential negative consequences of that. Now, again

999
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 4: they have said very clearly. Again to their credit, they

1000
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 4: have apologized. They've come out and said, this is our fault,

1001
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: this is unacceptable. So from a Cloud Flair perspective, I

1002
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: think they've done.

1003
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: Everything above board.

1004
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: But again, just imagine the potential consequences that this wouldn't

1005
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: have been able to be restored a quickly, whether it's

1006
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 4: simply loss of business or critical services, police fire, ambulance

1007
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: can't get out. We got to get really serious about this,

1008
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 4: and we've got to do it soon, Dives, and I

1009
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: just can't stratad enough. Thankfully, there are people out there

1010
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: talking about this, but I don't know that enough people

1011
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 4: are taking it seriously and that we're focusing on the

1012
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: right things.

1013
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: All right with that, Dave hadd we can We've been

1014
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: talking about this forever. I mean, you kind of turned

1015
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: the sword to the possibilities here, and I just know

1016
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: just from watching it happen around here. If you remember,

1017
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: we all remember if a couple of you know, whenever,

1018
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: that was a few years back when the hurricane came

1019
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: through here and power was knocked out all over the city. Now,

1020
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: think about that, if something like that, a cyber attack

1021
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: takes out the power of grid and whatever area for

1022
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: four or five days, two weeks, whatever the case might be,

1023
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: it would be panic, it'd be nuts.

1024
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: I agree with you, because the last time the power

1025
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: was out for any extended period of time, I'm thinking

1026
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 4: it was like two thousand and eight due to that hurricane.

1027
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: I went like a whole week without power at my house.

1028
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 4: We weren't nearly as dependent on this stuff as we

1029
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 4: are today, and the more and more dependent we get

1030
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 4: on it, the more critical it's going to be to

1031
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: ensure that these systems are you know, have like six

1032
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: nine seven nine eight nine up time where you know

1033
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: the likelihood of it going down is virtually zero. We've

1034
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 4: got to get there or we're we're in a bad

1035
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: place if we don't. So we got to focus on

1036
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: secure by design.

1037
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 6: All right.

1038
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: With with that, Dave Hadter, we will let you go, buddy.

1039
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, Thanks so much.

1040
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: Thank you guys, have a good one day.

1041
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, down in your in your cellar their son.

1042
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah back then there, but it is okay. We're helpless

1043
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to stuff, when it comes to internet stuff.

1044
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: I know, I am, like I said, I just kept

1045
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to get on my work email

1046
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: and I can. I've said that looking on my iPad, Like,

1047
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?

1048
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: It's like a god given right, basic human rights. You

1049
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: are to have the internet work when I want to

1050
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 2: watch a funny cat video?

1051
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: Right? Right?

1052
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: Are you always working?

1053
00:53:59,800 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 6: No?

1054
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 11: You doing that?

1055
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1056
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: Stop?

1057
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1058
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: Just work?

1059
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1060
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: And there's I mean, I mean, think about the things

1061
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: increasingly in our society that you absolutely is your idea

1062
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: how they work.

1063
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: And they just work. So you just expect it to work.

1064
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: I don't.

1065
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: Just then when it doesn't, you go, well, then you

1066
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: realize you have absolutely no idea how to fix it? Correct?

1067
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, oh yeah, just keep trying it. That's

1068
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: why when it comes to the computer stuff, that's all.

1069
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: That's all I can do. I just like keep trying

1070
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: it until it works, or I go unplug something and

1071
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: plug it back in and see if that work.

1072
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: Back in the day, the worst thing that would happen

1073
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: would be, you know, if you ran out of wood

1074
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: or coal, you couldn't eat your home. But you know,

1075
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: as long as you can figure out a way to

1076
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: get that one, you could fix your problem. And now

1077
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how to. We can't

1078
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: even order a pizza without without the internet anymore.

1079
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Right there? You go, helpless? Help with that. We check

1080
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: in with traffic and weather. What is going on, Rocky?

1081
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 1: This sounds like something out of an old movie or something.

1082
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: This happened in Australia. Deborah Brown and her her family

1083
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: were cleaning up a beach near their hometown in Western

1084
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: Australia and they were just you know, picking up the

1085
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: litter and whatnot, and they found an old bottle okay,

1086
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: washed up one shore. All right, I know this is

1087
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: going It turned out to be two guys who were

1088
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: heading off to fight in World War One? What wow?

1089
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Very cool? How about that?

1090
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 4: Yes?

1091
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: The uh, there were two letters in there dated nineteen sixteen.

1092
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: The two guys were shipping out to head off to

1093
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: well obviously to Europe. Then so these people found it

1094
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah put it on social media. They

1095
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: traced down these people's relatives all these years where they're

1096
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: obviously their ancestors at this stage of the game. It

1097
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: was Private Malcolm Neville and Private William Harley. Private Neville's

1098
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: records show that he was initially discharged due to his

1099
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: poor eyesight, but then re enlisted a couple of weeks later.

1100
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 2: Here's so many stories about that, whether if someone was

1101
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: a little bit too young, bad eyesight, found no way

1102
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 2: to sneak in, said his great his great nephew.

1103
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: I think that just shows you his character, how determined

1104
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: he was. Sadly, Private Neville was killed in action in

1105
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 1: France at the age of twenty eight, but his buddy

1106
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: Private Harley did get home. His granddaughter and Turner said

1107
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: finding the letters was like a miracle. Were absolutely stunned.

1108
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: But try to imagine that man, that is something like

1109
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: out of a dream that you would, oh, look at

1110
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's going to be some kid who was

1111
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: on a field trip, and that they threw it in

1112
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: the water about a week and a half ago. Right, No,

1113
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen. Now have you ever put a note in

1114
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: a bottle? I've done it probably three or four times.

1115
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Yeah, I'm mahma stooing in there.

1116
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: Did you get anything back? Nothing? Well, one time this

1117
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: model reached out to me, and you know, I was like,

1118
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm already taken. Yeah, comb yeah, yeah. But

1119
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: Gwen Stefani was probably walking along the beach and Clink

1120
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: always picked up with her toe and was like, oh,

1121
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: what's this looking for? Just like a nice, you know,

1122
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: redhaired guy, fairly from the Midwest. But unfortunately she had

1123
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: just married Blake. Were shut down coming up, We're gonna

1124
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: we got I guess here. This is very cool. I

1125
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: happened to stumble across her reels on Facebook and obviously

1126
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: on Instagram as well. Sammy Riggs is her name. She

1127
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: writes songs. She's a singer songwriter, and she kind of

1128
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: every week writes the Bengals Diddy. We'll be talking to

1129
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: her about how she got into this and what it's

1130
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: all about. They're pretty. She actually does a killer version

1131
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: of Zombie by the Cranberrys, which I know you like

1132
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: heck yeah, and it's about the Bengals. Call hear it

1133
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: coming up right now. It's the News News Radio seven

1134
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: hundred w LW right back with Eddie and Rocky.

1135
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 4: And Mark.

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00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: I've seen this woman on Facebook on her seen her reels.

1137
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: She is a singer songwriter and just kind of in

1138
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: her spare time, she has deemed to write a Bengals

1139
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: song pretty much every week after the Bengals games.

1140
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: And there they're thematic right like they they fit the theme.

1141
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: The song fits the theme of what mayor may not have.

1142
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: Happened, generally in the style of another artist.

1143
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 12: Yes, Londer, our hearts the seasons over of their dry

1144
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 12: and only so much can be expected. It's the same

1145
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 12: old thing with the third youby.

1146
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: It's been said, it's been said, we won't stoup whining

1147
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: Brownie back up, and we have her with us right now.

1148
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: From a dry Ridge to your radio. Is that our

1149
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: friend Sammy Riggs? Sammy, welcome to the program. Hello, So

1150
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: is Sammy singer songwriter Dry Ridge? Explain your story because

1151
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: you just want a songwriting award in Nashville? Is that correct?

1152
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 12: So it's Nashville, Indiana?

1153
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: But yes, well, heye's na, that's it. Yeah, there you go.

1154
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 12: So yeah. So I grew up in Northern Kentucky. I've

1155
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 12: been playing music since I was really young.

1156
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 9: And.

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 12: I mean I've always been a songwriter, but I feel

1158
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 12: like I've really honed in on the craft probably over

1159
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 12: the last five.

1160
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: Years or so.

1161
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 12: And I definitely have always used humor to relate to people,

1162
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 12: and so with the Bengals songs, it was just kind

1163
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 12: of a way to recap what has happened during games

1164
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 12: during the season, and I kind of started doing it

1165
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 12: a couple of years ago.

1166
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: Very nice.

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01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: So, so are all the songs you write or perform?

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01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: Are they themed around sports or local events that are

1169
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: things that are happening in the world.

1170
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 4: Or what.

1171
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 12: Every I write about everything. So I have original music

1172
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 12: on Spotify. Those are obviously more serious songs. So I mean, really,

1173
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 12: if you're friends with a songwriter, anything can be turned

1174
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 12: into a song. So you have to be careful what

1175
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 12: you do and say you might end up in a song.

1176
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: It's like Taylor Swift, right as you write a song

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01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: about you.

1178
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 12: Now, I mean pretty much Taylor and I are very

1179
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 12: close in age, so when she was, you know, coming

1180
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 12: into the picture, I was still in high school, and

1181
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 12: so I actually had a lot of animosity towards her.

1182
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 12: When I was younger, I think there was a lot

1183
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 12: of jealousy of like, man.

1184
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 5: She's doing what I want to be doing.

1185
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 12: But now obviously, like I have so much respect for her.

1186
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 12: But yeah, I just really enjoy just writing and I

1187
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 12: always want to make people laugh if I can.

1188
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: You know, right now in your career doing this, can

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01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: you recall or take us back to a moment when

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01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: you had one hit big right or like got a

1191
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: lot of attention, you know, because like music business is tough.

1192
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: You can do this for a long time and kind

1193
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: of go unnoticed, but do your call one that really

1194
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: got a lot of play and kind of got you

1195
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: a little recognition.

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Speaker 12: I mean, honestly, up until now, the Bengals stuff has

1197
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 12: probably gotten me more recognition than anything, just because you know,

1198
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 12: the algorithm and people seeing things through the years, just

1199
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 12: being a local and you know, playing throughout the area.

1200
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 12: I've had people following me for a while just from

1201
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 12: like singing in bars, restaurants and things like that. But

1202
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 12: I feel like up until now I've kind of been

1203
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 12: and part of it too, is just the grind of

1204
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 12: like getting myself out there more, getting my original music

1205
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 12: out there more. So I feel like over the past

1206
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 12: year or two that's kind of it's it's just all

1207
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 12: taking off more. But I think also because I've been

1208
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 12: focusing on that more.

1209
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Sam with you Rigaz our guest and now are

1210
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: do you find the because it sounds like you just

1211
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: started doing this for fun writing the Bengals song the

1212
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: Bengals songs? Are Are you feeling pressure now that after

1213
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: every game people are going, Okay, when's the net? What's

1214
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: summarize my feeling of the song? Is this one going

1215
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: to be Guns and Roses, Latest Laws or what explained?

1216
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 12: I definitely feel a lot more pressure now. When I

1217
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 12: first started doing it. I mean, obviously I started doing

1218
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 12: it because it was fun and it was just being silly,

1219
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 12: but I mean there was a lot of nervousness of like,

1220
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 12: is anyone going to care about this? And so when

1221
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 12: I started doing it a couple of years ago, there

1222
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 12: would be weeks where I didn't do a song because

1223
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 12: I'm like, I don't really know if anybodybody really cares

1224
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 12: about this, And then I would have people say, man,

1225
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 12: I was looking forward to your song, so then I

1226
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 12: started realizing that people were kind of paying attention, and

1227
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 12: I was like, okay, well, if people really care about this,

1228
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 12: I guess I'll just keep trying to do it. And

1229
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 12: this season is probably the first season I've really really

1230
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 12: felt the pressure of like, okay, I got to put

1231
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 12: out a song and it's not even I mean, okay.

1232
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 12: So the Thursday night game wide Out with the Steelers.

1233
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 12: That was an eight o'clock game. I had worked the

1234
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 12: next day, and I had.

1235
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 1: People like, where's your song? Where's the song?

1236
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 12: I'm the guys, I have a day job. Okay, I

1237
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 12: don't just this is not what I do for a living.

1238
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 12: So they had to wait until, you know, after five

1239
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 12: o'clock on Friday to hear my you know, recap of

1240
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 12: that game. So, I mean, I'm watching the game and

1241
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 12: I'm trying to think of songs, and I'm like, can

1242
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 12: I write this? And I mean on Sunday, I wrote

1243
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 12: my song in the fourth quarter of the game.

1244
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 6: Pretty much.

1245
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the story was already told.

1246
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 12: I was told. But you know what the Cardiac Cats, Okay,

1247
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 12: the which game was it? A couple of games before that,

1248
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 12: I thought we were going to win the game.

1249
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 4: The Jets game.

1250
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, so I wrote a whole song about winning and

1251
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 12: then had to throw it.

1252
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 6: All the way.

1253
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: Yes, that's you know, there was many writers that write

1254
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: columns about the Bengals had had the same thing happen.

1255
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: So any plans of adopting this to Reds games, you know,

1256
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: there's only one hundred and sixty two of them, so yeah,

1257
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, Cutch quick turnaround, bang those out like four

1258
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: or five a week, right.

1259
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't.

1260
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 12: I mean, I follow the Reds, but I'm I don't

1261
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 12: know as much about baseball as I do about football,

1262
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 12: So that's my only That would be the difficult part

1263
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 12: for me there. But I mean, even with the football stuff,

1264
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 12: I have moments where I'm like, I mean, you're never

1265
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 12: going to satisfy everyone's thought in a song. And so

1266
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 12: even with you know, the songs that I'm posting, I'll

1267
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 12: have commentary on and of like, well, the defense actually

1268
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 12: did good this game, but the offense and it's like, okay,

1269
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 12: I know, but like notoriously, our defense sucks. So that's

1270
01:06:55,320 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 12: what I'm capitalizing on. Some people are very literal about it,

1271
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 12: and they want me to be very detailed, and it's

1272
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 12: like okay, well, I can only do so much in

1273
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 12: ninety seconds.

1274
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: No, have you gotten any feedback from many of the

1275
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: players at all? Just curious about that.

1276
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 4: No, but I wish I did.

1277
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 9: That.

1278
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 12: When I wrote the Hallolujah song about Joe Burrow, I

1279
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 12: was like, maybe he'll see it because I asked him,

1280
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 12: you know, if you ever want to collab because he

1281
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 12: plays piano.

1282
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 10: Now let me know.

1283
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: Every big maybe you know what, maybe least reach a

1284
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: little less high, maybe get give find them.

1285
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've got to get the long snapper. Yeah, yeah,

1286
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: some of them will start slow, might embrace that a

1287
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: little bit.

1288
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: It's I don't know, no Offen or something or Chase Brown.

1289
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: Chase Brown is having a good year running back. You

1290
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: might want to collab and get a little little pub

1291
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: little mileage for himself.

1292
01:07:58,880 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: It'll be good.

1293
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1294
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 12: And I will tell you that I wrote a song

1295
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 12: today about the Spitgate scandal, so I will be posting

1296
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 12: that tonight about Jamar Chase.

1297
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: I saw your post the other day on Facebook and

1298
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: you said I will be spitting out a song in

1299
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: a little bit. Nice. That's great. Yeah, what is this?

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Speaker 1: What is this in the style of or is this

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01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 1: a SAMMI original.

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 12: It's not a semi original, it's just a chaboozy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, ok yeah, And.

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 12: I'm pretty I'm pretty proud of myself.

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Speaker 4: For this one.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that'll be posted on Facebook and it's

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: reels and so you're on Instagram, Facebook, I assume both.

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01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, and TikTok. But I'll probably I'll probably get home

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 12: after this and record it and post it sometime this evening.

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Speaker 1: All right, Folks just want to want to check this out?

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01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: Where do they go? How do they follow you? Or

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01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: check your stuff out?

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01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 12: If you go to Sammy Riggs dot com, it's s

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01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 12: A M I R I G g s dot com,

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01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 12: all of my handles are there. It'll take you to

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 12: my Spotify, my Facebook, my Instagram, and my TikTok as well.

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01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: Now do you play out a lot, Sammy?

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01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 12: I do. I I probably play at least three or

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01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 12: four shows a month. I've definitely pivoted to doing more

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01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 12: original music, so I have. My next show is going

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 12: to be on Black Friday at Saskate House Revival, and

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 12: that is going to be all original music. So myself,

1324
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 12: my friend Kayleen Talent, and my friends Chelsea and Zack

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01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 12: of by Salia Gold. It's just going to be a

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01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 12: showcase of all the songs that we've written. Nothing about

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01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 12: the Bengals though.

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Speaker 1: Very cool with that. Sammy wigile A, you go, good

1329
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: luck and keep up.

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 12: The good war kid, thank you very much for having

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01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 12: me have a great night.

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: Her name is Sammy Riggs. She's from dry Ridge and

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: uh yeah, see, I'm like she's saying she's jealous of

1334
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Well, I'm jealous of people who can do.

1335
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: Stuff like that.

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: I tried to learn how to play guitar. Dude, I

1337
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: couldn't strum a chord. I we know I played. Did

1338
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: I tell you I played drums for the band gun

1339
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: Metal Gray?

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 13: No?

1341
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 2: No, okay, Well let me tell you all about it.

1342
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 2: They were a metal kind of affair metal hair metal.

1343
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 2: But we're kind of all over the map.

1344
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't like to I don't like to talk about

1346
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: these things. But I don't know. I don't think Gun

1347
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: Metal Gray did a whole lot of James Taylor toun.

1348
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 8: No, we didn't do that.

1349
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: We were all over the map, but we played very loud,

1350
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: very average. How long did the did the band last?

1351
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: It's not you know, three years? Well, you know, and

1352
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: that's not twenty five shows a year or anything.

1353
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 2: But you know, of course about two and a half

1354
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 2: years we played maybe twelve, played a couple of festivals,

1355
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 2: played a played a barn party.

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: Kind of was it. I get the impression it was

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01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: kind of spinal tappy.

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 6: Now.

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01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: We were we were decent, you know, we were good.

1360
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: I mean that you guys, you know, didn't get along.

1361
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: And look, there was there was some some you know,

1362
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: there's always the guy. The lead singer generally is the guy.

1363
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this our our main argument and was

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01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: always you know, our lead singer, Ben Wilson, went best

1365
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: friends and were a great guy, good singer. He would

1366
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: always want to play like you b sides off of

1367
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: Motley Cruz, like original first bootleg tape. Right, I'm like,

1368
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: do you gotta play we gotta play stuff people know,

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01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Right, But and you got

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 2: to play a few songs that are obscure. But there's

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: there would be a couple of people in the art

1372
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: like we played Firewoman by the Cult and you know

1373
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: that's not like a super well known song, but there

1374
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: were a couple of people in the audience are probably

1375
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 2: like hell yeah, that was a fire woman. Good job

1376
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: we killed that song, by the way, but uh, you know,

1377
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 2: but then sometimes you would want to play again.

1378
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 4: Just some.

1379
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: Some stuff no one knew. I mean, we're not talented

1380
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: enough to carry that. I just see Boyman back there

1381
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: with the headband on the shirt shirt, the sleeless t shirt.

1382
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: Our first show, or it was that.

1383
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 4: It was that.

1384
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: We used to go a black sheet was a public

1385
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 2: house up and cheviot. Our speakers caught fire. We were

1386
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: running so much amperage. These like like small speakers. I'm

1387
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: looking in the back of it and it's like glowing hot. Like, man,

1388
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 2: this is a problem with that. We check in with

1389
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 2: traffic and weather of what's going on.

1390
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: From the UC. All right, bag with Eddie and Rocky

1391
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: in a long.

1392
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: One more segment here and then six oh eight Lance

1393
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: McCallister takes over and he is going to have Pat

1394
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: Kelsey on right out of the gate to talk the

1395
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: big UC Louisville game again.

1396
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: That is at six oh eight.

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: But until then, ed right, we have our good friend

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01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: Alex Stone from ABC join us.

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Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before, Alex. But I guess

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01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: it keeps going here.

1401
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: More and more athletes and Hollywood stars are getting targeted

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01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 2: by home burglar is when they're you know, on TV

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01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: or on the road trail and that kind of thing.

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01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, this is an ongoing problem for athletes and celebrities,

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01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 14: and a lot of athletes have DELLA. Then we know

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 14: Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow and celebrities as well.

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 14: The issue being is pretty clear where they are, and

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01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 14: whether they're on TV or they're on social media, everybody

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01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 14: knows they're whereabouts. And so this weekend, while shod Or

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01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 14: Sanders was making his debut for the Browns, he had

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 14: his home burglarived and the Sheriff's department to stay around

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01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 14: two hundred thousand worth of stuff was taken, and it

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01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 14: seemed that at the end of the game when the

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01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 14: Browns lost, that Sanders had no idea what was going on.

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01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 14: He didn't know about it because he was away and

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 14: he was playing when he was hit and when he

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01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 14: was talking about what was going on in his life

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01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 14: after the game.

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01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: I'm just thankful I'm out here, you know, I'm thankful,

1420
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: thankful seeing Autumn Twilt's out there.

1421
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 14: Probably not too thankful once he found out what had

1422
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 14: gone on at his home. And then this weekend as well,

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01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 14: on Saturday morning, the LAPD was called the home of

1424
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 14: a Real Housewives star, Setting Strack. A dog walker saw

1425
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 14: signs of a home break in, called police, burglars were gone.

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01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 14: And today Strak is putting out security camera footage of

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01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 14: the burglars in her home and she says that they

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 14: stole all of her luxury handbags and her fine jewelry.

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01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 14: It's no secret where she lives, and it's no secret

1430
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 14: that she was at Bravo con in Vegas this weekend.

1431
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 14: She on the show on Real Housewives Beverly Hills, shows

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01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 14: her home and shows everything she's got and where it is.

1433
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 14: Great thing living in a we get the sun, so

1434
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 14: there's no secret there. And then about twelve hours later

1435
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 14: on Saturday, as rain was pouring in LA this weekend,

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01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 14: the LAPD was called the bell Air home of Kathy

1437
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 14: Hilton and TMD says her husband was at home, saw

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01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 14: three burglars on the property, but both of them weren't

1439
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 14: Bravo Khan in Vegas, and it was very publicly known

1440
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 14: unclear if anything was taken from Hilton's home, But guys,

1441
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 14: we asked Brad Garrett, former FBI profiler ab Snows law

1442
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 14: enforcement analyst has taken all this and he says it

1443
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 14: comes back to the celebrities being easy targets. That it's

1444
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 14: clear that they're away and probably family members are not

1445
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 14: in Hilton's case, but for an athlete, family members are

1446
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 14: there watching them play and nobody will be home.

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01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 6: As you look at these three cases, these are high

1448
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 6: profile folks, two of them from a reality television show

1449
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 6: and one a professional football player, but they all three

1450
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 6: have one thing in common. There are a way from

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01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 6: their residences and because so many people know who they are,

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 6: quite possibly maybe even where they live, because that's not

1453
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 6: that difficult to figure out. We have seen a string

1454
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 6: of high profile celebrities and professional athletes houses broken into.

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01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 14: I got to go back to when we've covered these

1456
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 14: previously with celebrity break ins, and really the one involving

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01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 14: Jennifer Aniston when a stoker tried to get in a

1458
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 14: few months ago but was stopped because she had high

1459
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 14: level armed security who responded and held it a gunpoint.

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01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 14: And law enforcement tells us celebrities and athletes really need

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01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 14: twenty four to seven armed security because even if you

1462
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 14: have an alarm system, a lot of them, don't use it.

1463
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 14: But if they haven't turned on, police still aren't going

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01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 14: to get there quickly enough, typically before burglars can get

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01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 14: in and get out, or get in and threaten somebody

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 14: with a gun. And yeah, if it's a celebrity, hold

1467
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 14: the hostage or whatever. So that's the critical difference beyond

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 14: just alarm system. But LAPD brass are saying, whether you're

1469
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 14: here or you know you're in Cleveland, that highly trained,

1470
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 14: real armed security is what makes the difference. To have

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01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 14: your own like police department to stop an intruder. But

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01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 14: that's super expensive. It's intrusive to have people constantly doing

1473
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 14: rounds on your property and to have cars idling out front,

1474
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 14: but that can make all the difference to preventing one

1475
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 14: of these.

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'm one of these multimillionaire stars of some again,

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01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: like you said, Jennifer Aniston, if I've got that kind

1478
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: of money, man, I'm going to be as safe as possible.

1479
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 14: You know, I'm want somebody there, And I mean it

1480
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 14: really is expensive. If you're thinking you're paying for usually

1481
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 14: multiple people twenty four hours a day, I mean you're

1482
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 14: potentially talking millions of dollars a year because of all

1483
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 14: their equipment and their training and then everything else. And

1484
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 14: if it's each individual person, depending on how good they are,

1485
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 14: then it's going to be costly. But in the case

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01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 14: of Jennifer Aniston, those two or three security guards who

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01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 14: were working that day and were armed, they were able

1488
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 14: to stop that intruder and hold them until the LAPD

1489
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 14: got there, whereas others just hop the fence and they

1490
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 14: go right in and can do whatever they want.

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01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: That's rough, man, that's wrong. And like you said, yeah,

1492
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: it does seem simbol. Just hire somebody, but that that

1493
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: that has a cost. And and and that's even you know,

1494
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 2: that level of security requires a big cost. I'd hires

1495
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 2: and call it a day's good.

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 14: You would think, well, just get camera as well. I mean,

1497
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 14: look at the strack that she has cameras and she's

1498
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 14: sharing the footage today, But what good is it when

1499
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 14: they're just wearing masks and hoodies and yeah, you can't

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01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 14: see who they are anyway. And a lot of times

1501
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 14: now they use Wi Fi jammers to jam the signal

1502
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 14: anyway if it's not a wired camera. So I mean,

1503
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 14: that's good after the fact, but in the moment, those

1504
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 14: cameras aren't going to do much.

1505
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and it is so easy, it appears, I like,

1506
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: so we really appreciate it. Man, thanks so much.

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01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 14: You got to thank you.

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01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean I would, honestly, god, I would be scared

1509
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: to death most of the time if I was one

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01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 1: of these people, if I didn't have that kind of security.

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01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because you have a target

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Speaker 1: on your back. Man, people are looking, yeah, look and

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Speaker 1: everybody knows.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Part of it two is you're on social media, so

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Speaker 2: people know, okay, well you're not at your house or

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01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: or you are at your house, and they want to

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like they kind of know

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Speaker 2: where you can't hard to like just kind of you.

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Speaker 1: Know, become unknown anymore.

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Speaker 2: If you're one of these big stars where I think

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Speaker 2: it used to be able to do that a little bit,

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Speaker 2: at least your private residence was.

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Speaker 1: Off limits or not really known where that was. But

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Speaker 1: now no holds barre okay, rock before we get out

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Speaker 1: of here. In other news, this is being reported in

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Speaker 1: the Philippines. This is the some doctors there have documented

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Speaker 1: the case of a woman whose armpits laate milk what

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Speaker 1: uh gros but hand rows. But we yeah, dermatiz Just,

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Speaker 1: writing in the Journal of Blah Blah Blah, said the

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Speaker 1: patient was born with extra breast tissue on both sides

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Speaker 1: of her under arms, which swelled up after she delivered

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Speaker 1: a baby and produced milk secretions from the overlying hair follicles.

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Speaker 1: It didn't bother when she was pregnant or breastfeeding. The

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Speaker 1: doctor said, it effects you know, fewer than six percent

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Speaker 1: of women. Rock six percent of women. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of women I have never met. So they just like

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Speaker 1: when they're lactating or whatever, like it just it comes

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Speaker 1: out their armpits. Awful, it leaks out of their hair follicles.

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Speaker 1: How bad would that freak out?

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Speaker 10: God?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Hell? How come every time of the baby nurses,

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Speaker 1: I get like, right, oh my god, baby licking your

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Speaker 1: armpits and stick? Are you sure you're hungry?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: Sure, you want to eat? But it's just, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. Uh just the various I like I said,

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Speaker 1: six percent of women that effects one When you think

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Speaker 1: you would have heard of that before, because I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard of it and everything. Never never heard of it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well there you go. And uh so that

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Speaker 1: that baby's got leftovers, I guess with the with that

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Speaker 1: in mind, let's that gross thought in mind. Yeah that is,

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Speaker 1: that's that's good. Leave a bad daste in everybody's mouth.

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Speaker 1: But right now it's traffic and weather. What is going

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Speaker 1: on