1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: All righty, now, what's going on? Nine to noon heads 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: into the final hour of the radio show and subsequently 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis and the scouting combine an hour and change 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: from now and there we meet the analyst Pete Bursich 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: later today and then Curly with the ven arranges the 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Mexican food feast for the traveling TV types and it's good, 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: but it's delayed this year due to a coach's covenant 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: and much more on that in a minute, Because while 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for our yearly venture courtesy of the ever 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: gracious Minnesota Football Vikings, the Analyst and I will keep 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: tradition alive by attending Courtney Cronin's Women in the NFL 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Media Gala, and there we will chat with Bears podcasters 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: about their squad and our squad and my ordeal and 14 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: Peach YouTube channel and rip on Blakemore's favorite squad, the 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: Brett Brett Blakemore. 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: You know Brett Blakemore's mom one time heard me at 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: the end of a Vikings game during the credits call him, 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Blake Brett Moore. We want to bank production assistant Blake 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Brett Moore, that Brett's mom was so offended. I don't 21 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: think she listened to a Vikings football game for three years. 22 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean that that's dedicated love for your baby boy 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: and and uh and with our yearly catchup covenant in Indianapolis, 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: ursus and I for sure will tag a McDonald's for 25 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: a combined fifty and change. 26 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: And the routine is racing. 27 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: It's in the air Indianapolis in weather it looks fine. 28 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: No Nordo anymore, No Nordo anymore in the Indianapolis journeys. 29 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: So it is I lugging the equipment which doesn't really 30 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: have much l to it, so who cares? 31 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: And then we cut. 32 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: Loose with a couple of all football radio shows from 33 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: what's now dubbed podcast Row. It's not Radio Rows podcast 34 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: Row because the podcasters have table after table after table 35 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: after table, and that's all good pre speech First Amendment 36 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: podcasters and YouTubers. Radio shows preach with the with the 37 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: eighteen segments we're going to have for you Tuesday and Wednesday. 38 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: The situation per usual, it's quite fluid, very fluid situation 39 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. 40 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: But here's what's see. 41 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm certain and all of this is mostly certain to 42 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: be included Tuesday and or Wednesday, but it's not limited 43 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: to just this. Coaches set to join combine covenant me 44 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: and the analyst, Minnesota Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell and 45 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks assistant head coach Make That associate head coach, 46 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Elite defensive mind and former Minnesota Vikings head coach and 47 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Ladies and gentlemen Leslie Fraser, Ko and Leslie 48 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: Fraser from the Indianapolis Scouting Combine. Also Minnesota Vikings acting 49 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: general Manager Rob Brazinski, a man they call Briz. Take note, 50 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: all right, this is important. The absolute only place you 51 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: will hear Ko and the GM is nine to now 52 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: those days because the coach and the acting GM are 53 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: not doing podium briefings and are doing table talk with 54 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: the beats. They'll do some table talk with the beats, 55 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: so you'll get the tweets from the beats, and you'll 56 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: get the stories and stuff like that from the scribe. 57 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: Ben Gesslinging, Kevin Seffert, Alan Lewis, Dame Mishuttani at all 58 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: now from at the combine basically certain, but these guests 59 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: are certain, but the shows are not limited to inclusion 60 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: from ESPN Elite Draft analyst Jordan Reed, Elite Draft analyst 61 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: Field Yates, and Courtney Cronin who covers the Chicago Bears, 62 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: and all those are on site, on air, on demand 63 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: and on fire ESPN the mothership the Juggernaut ESPN coming 64 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: through for the Combine shows Tuesday and or Wednesday with 65 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: the likes of Jordan Reed, Field Yates, and Courtney Cronin, 66 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Foxes play by play voices executing their toil for the 67 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: Shield the National Football League. The Autumn Wind is a 68 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: vox describing just for fun. Box inclusion most likely will 69 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: include Chicago Bears play by play voice Jeff Joniac and 70 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers analyst Larry mccarrn. Combine Kids some of 71 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: the players from college looking to open eyes and put 72 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: on dazzling performances in interview rooms and or on the 73 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: field at the twenty twenty six Combine. This would be 74 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: Combine Kids, but it really should be Combine Kid because 75 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: we only got one as of now. That is Nebraska 76 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: running back Emmit Johnson. Ladies and Gentlemen, Emma Johnson, game 77 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: changing running back for the Nebraska corn Huskers. Emma Johnson, 78 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: he just ran for fourteen hundred some odd yards and 79 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of tds for the Huskers Holy Angels richfield 80 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: product Emma Johnson. Now I've known him and his brother 81 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: for years. The relationship with EJ kind of got over 82 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: the top the year Moscow and Faber and that high 83 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: end Gophers hockey team lost the Frozen Four to Quinnipiac. 84 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: I watched it in Lincoln, Nebraska. Emmit Johnson was going 85 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: to school in Lincoln, Nebraska, and we had just met 86 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: each other, like within six months before that, and my 87 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: flight to Minneapolis was a bit delayed, and there I 88 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: saw aim it at the Lincoln airport and we uh 89 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: we talked about Sundays and the significance of that day 90 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: of the week and blessings and things like that, and 91 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: we didn't have any football. Now we I'll never forget 92 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: that time at the airport with Emma Johnson. We we've 93 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: stayed in touch ever since. Smart Football minds c Minnesotan 94 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: Emmitt Johnson most likely as a Day two draft. 95 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: Pick round two or three. Let's go EJ. 96 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: And we're gonna vet that out with our ESPN drafts dods. 97 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Hey did I tell you? On the Combine shows Tuesday 98 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: and Wednesday, Kfan from Indianapolis, Me and the analyst that 99 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: ESPN Draft analyst, Jordan Reid, draft analyst Field Yates. They're 100 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna be on the radio show Courtney Cronin for the 101 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Bears represents ESPN Covering the Bear ESPN. We're going to 102 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: vet out Emma Johnson's drafting lot in life with, among others, 103 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: those EFP ESPN draft studs. All that sounds like a 104 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: winning bet, doesn't it. Tuesday and Wednesday in Indianapolis with 105 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: your buddy Paul Allen and your buddy Pete Bursich, two 106 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: thirds of the Vasting Never Expanding Minnesota Vikings KFA in 107 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings Audio Network. That's a winning bet. Over two days. 108 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: That is looking like it's going to be clomp free. 109 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: It'll be clomp free, you know. And unless I leave 110 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: behind a three three hundred dollars set of headphones like 111 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: I did last year, went to Indianapolis with four. 112 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: Came home with three. 113 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: Thought I had four three hundred dollars headphones dead. 114 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: It's my fault. 115 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: So I was thinking, you know, hey, if you want 116 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: all the headphones to come home, send Noordo to sweat 117 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: his way through the convention. 118 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: Center hallways. Then it's a cinch. Y'all leave with. 119 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: Four sets of headphones twelve hundred dollars in value and 120 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: you come home with four sets of headphones twelve hundred 121 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: dollars in value. Oh wait, oh wait, my ever reliable 122 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: best friend and producer Nordo. Oh wait, the last time 123 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: he went to the Indianapolis Combine to produce nine to Noon, 124 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Nordo dropped the equipment and it didn't work. So I 125 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: heart Indianapolis. Scurried to the convention center to get us equipment, 126 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: and the show indeed went on. Now elite tweeter reporter 127 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: and fantasy mind Adam Kaplan is a card carrying member 128 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: of the Love Covenant and has been for the duration 129 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: of his run, which would be like. 130 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: Twenty eight years. Twenty eight years, though a. 131 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: This will be combined sixteen for me, and I'm guessing 132 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: more for Cap Adam Kaplan beloved Cap. Now, Adam was 133 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: texting me over the weekend and I'm like, hey, hey, Cap, 134 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: do me a solid man so I can leave for 135 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: the airport at around eleven o'clock to get to the 136 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Combine. Let's take a chat about football and the 137 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Combine and he said, cool, so Cappy, how many combines 138 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: is this for you? 139 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think this is going to be Paul around 140 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: twenty five for me. Unfortunately, because we got snowed out 141 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: in Philly, I missed my first senior bol since two 142 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: thousand and two. But I'm looking forward to this one. 143 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: This is a depending on which team. I mean, this 144 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: is a big free agency period obviously, depending on what 145 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 3: team big for the draft, and so this is a 146 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: lot talking to a bunch of teams. Man, this draft could. 147 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: Be very very fast, you know, speaking of combines and drafts. 148 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: Adam at Kaplin, NFL via the X Machine. You know, 149 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy? Twenty twenty, the year the world 150 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: shut down. We actually were at the combine the week 151 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: before it popped and talking about Justin Jefferson and that 152 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: elite twenty twenty wide receiver draft class. 153 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? 154 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: That was? You know that that Justin Jefferson situation. There's 155 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: one that you remember certain things that would go on 156 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: in that draft and you Philly passing on him. That 157 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: there were coaches there who thought that Jefferson would only 158 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: be a slot receiver Obinson that was completely wrong, and 159 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: you got to get Rick Spielman credit. I mean he 160 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: he didn't even hesitate. And Jefferson's obviously a stud. 161 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Now Chris Cooper, Chris Cooper is the Eagles new offensive 162 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: line coach. Now he recently was here Chris Cooper, wonderful 163 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: man up chatting with him here. What's he walking into 164 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: with that Eagles offensive line? 165 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 3: Well, you know, for years Paul Philly's offensive line was 166 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: e lead, but last season Shelve itself joined my lot 167 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: at the left tackled didn't play particularly well. Landon Dickerson 168 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: was beat up physically at two surgeries in twenty twenty 169 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: five after the Super Bowl, one after then one he 170 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: actually suffered a meniscous injury and had the trim right 171 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: before the season started. Cam Jurgens, who never should have 172 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: made the Pro Bowl, at back surgery after the Super 173 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: Bowl and was a shell of himself. Tyler Stem was 174 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: below average of the right guard, and Eline Johnson missed 175 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: about half the season with the list frog's brain. So 176 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 3: this goes to show you with this particular team, you 177 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: got to have better depth. They did not, and that's 178 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why they got embarrassed at home 179 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: against the forty nine ers. 180 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: In the playoffs a cap with the Eagles. Is aj 181 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: Brown for sure on the team next season? 182 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 3: I would say for sure. I'm expecting that Eagles will 183 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: receive interest and they would listen. The problem is Paul. 184 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: They don't not you can act replace him. But free 185 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: incy is terrible. They're not if they wanted a trader 186 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: for they're willing to trade them, and they do trade them, 187 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: it won't become for free agency. It have to be 188 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: via a trade or via the draft. What I'm told 189 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: is it's kind of top bavy, top heavy at receiver 190 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: for this draft and it really drops off. So look, 191 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: he hasn't been happy in the past. You know, the 192 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: offense is going to completely change. They're going to run 193 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: a true West Coast offense the first time in many 194 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: many years since Doug Peterson was fired of the twenty 195 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: twenty season. So it's going to change. But the problem 196 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: has been with Philly as the quarterback. Jalen Hurts has 197 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: really been on the downward slide as a passer the 198 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: last two seasons. 199 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: Hey, when a gap, When you say free agency is terrible, 200 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: what do you mean by position? 201 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: First of all, receiver really really bad. It gets Donald clubs. 202 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 3: People I respect have looked at the receiver position. I mean, 203 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: other than Deebo. Samuel Tyler Kills out coming back from 204 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 3: one of the worst d injuries you could have, and 205 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: he's thirty two. He just got cut. Now Mike Evans 206 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: is out, There's probably got two good of years left 207 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: in him. The Bills are probably going to be involved 208 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: with a bunch of free agent receivers. They need to 209 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: do that. Christian Kirk's a decent slot receiver. Hollywood Brown's 210 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: out there. It could run. But have been disappointed for 211 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: the chief. Tron Jennings is a nice player. He's more 212 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: of a tall slot receiver. It just not very good, 213 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: to be honest. You see. You know it's amazing about 214 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: this free agency. If you just moving the clock back 215 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: four years. Mike Evans stud, Adam Feelin Stud, Debo, Samuel Studd, 216 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins Stud, Well, things have changed unfortunately. 217 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 218 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: Well Keenan Allen, Yeah, there's a youngster here who's going 219 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: to hit free agency, I believe named Jalen Naylor. 220 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: Yep. 221 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: And I think you know, I mean from the Vikings 222 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: cap situation. It's not the worst, it's workable, but it 223 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: ain't the best. Uh, And certainly not speaking for the team, 224 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,119 Speaker 1: but I would be surprised with all the work Kevin O'Connell, 225 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: Keenan McCardell and this staff have put into jail and 226 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Nailer that they would prefer losing him. 227 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: I just don't so. 228 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: So what I'm envisioning off what you said is Nailer 229 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: there will be a market for him, and it may 230 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: be a more financially competitive market with higher numbers. Uh, 231 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: simply because the the you know, the the the rest 232 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: of the free agent receivers just they're not as young 233 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: or they're not as. 234 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: Good, and there's a quality backup. He's been a good 235 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: story of development, but he is a backup. I mean, 236 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: you're not looking like you're not looking at most likely 237 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: a big deal out there. Yeah, it's if you want 238 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: a receiver, you know, if you for the folks listening, 239 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: we know we're in Liking territory, but not everyone's a 240 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: Viking fan listening. Yeah, if you're looking for a receiver, 241 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna you're most likely they're gonna have to look 242 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: towards the draft. It's just just that's just what it is. 243 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: This is, this is a position for freegency in the draft. 244 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: That's not very deep for. 245 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: The for for the scouting combine. Just to have some 246 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: reference material for a versus and I when we chat, like, 247 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: I've printed a voluminous research packet on defensive tackles and 248 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: running backs, and I'm thinking about those for the Minnesota Vikings. 249 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: But just overall, like where do you think now? The 250 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: draft absolutely is deep, and maybe outside of defensive tackle 251 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: and running back, I need to print more. 252 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: Ed rush The early word that I'm told is EDG 253 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: rush is actually really really deep. Could see as many 254 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: as five go in the first round. Being from Miami's 255 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, Falk from Auburn, Bailey, David Bailey, Parker 256 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: from Clemson. It's actually you could see as many as 257 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: seven or eight going the first two round. It's deep. Now, 258 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: d tackle see de tackle is interesting. It depends what 259 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: you're looking for. What scheme the Vikers one of thirty four, 260 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: there should be two to four that go in the 261 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: first round. And again it depends what you look for. 262 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: You're looking for a guy could rush from the interior. 263 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: You're looking for just a wide body. That's what it's 264 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: going to come down to. 265 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just kind of riding a vibe here 266 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: because the last chat that Pete Bursich and I together 267 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: had with former Vikings general manager Quasi Yudopha Mensa took 268 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: place adjacent to the lobby outside of Arlington, Texas. Before 269 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: the Vikings would would walk off on the Dallas Cowboys 270 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football and we're chat mcwasey, and then 271 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: he had to run from the conversation and he's like, 272 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: I got to go look at some defensive tackles for 273 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: the draft. So now, grat that's months ago and he's 274 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: no longer here, but I never forgot it. So I'm like, hey, 275 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and print that defensive tackle 276 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: research packet. Now, now to the up to the current 277 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: nature of the NFL. Are are the Kansas City Chiefs 278 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: cap cap Adam kaplan at Kaplan NFL? Are the Chiefs 279 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: done with their Super Bowl years? Or is that a 280 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: premature proclamation? 281 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 3: Well, you never want to count on Andy Reid and 282 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: GM bred Viach. They came together from Philly and Veach 283 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: who want to cause with Matt Nagy who's now the 284 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: Giants SoC So these guys have been together a long time. 285 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: This is the first time they've had real turmoil in 286 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: terms of what the future looks like. The quarterbacks coming 287 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: back from a devastating knee injury. Now there are questions 288 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: whether it be ready. Week one, they're not very good 289 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: at receiver ratio. Race has got now illegal issue another one, 290 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: this is one that's different. They need They have a 291 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: lot of needs. I do radio on WHB every Thursday, 292 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: and I was talking about it, like you, They've got 293 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: eight legitimate needs. So they're no. When you look at 294 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: that division, the bronc is clearly or now clearly now 295 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: the favorite after that probably Chargers and the Chiefs. 296 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: What's what's your venturing quarterback? Adam? Do you like the 297 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: Vikings to get? 298 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: All? Right? So what I put out on sports grid 299 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: in January, it's definitely gonna happen. I mean, the Niners 300 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: have the cards here. When you look at Mac Jones, 301 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: he's on the last year of a two year deal, 302 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: will make four point seven million. He was phenomenal, I'm 303 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: told from from the table filling in for an injured 304 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 3: brought party last season. They're going to receive sign significant 305 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: interest in them. Why is that? If you really look 306 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: Paul at the quarterback landscape. Daniel Jones, who's a free agent, 307 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: pults one and back. He's come back from a major injury. 308 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers turns forty three, Russell Wilson is almost a 309 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: third string Quarterick Mariota low On number two is at 310 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: Wilson a number three. Flaccoh I'm told still wants to play. 311 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: Garoppolo's out there is not a bad backup case Keenum crazy. 312 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: We're still he's still trying to play for what I'm 313 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: told it's just bad. I'm mitched Trubisky and he's a 314 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: low and number two, so I think you. And by 315 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: the way, Philly's got this amazing backup Tanner McKee, who 316 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: they love. They probably would not even move for a 317 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: second round pick Beliver or not. So wow, it's hard 318 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, he's got an app. They call him 319 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: the Mormon, the Mormon rifle, Mormon missless, Yeah more miss 320 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's what Jordan a Lot, thank you. Yeah, 321 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 3: Jordany a Lot loves to say that he's got an 322 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: absolute host for an arm big dude. Mac Jones is 323 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: the one to watch here in free agency and in 324 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: terms of trade. 325 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: All right, well, what if what if people like you 326 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: and the big spot tweeters, reporters and newsbreakers are accurate, 327 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: and Atlanta cuts Cousins in middle March. 328 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how does that get end? 329 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: Cut at walk? Well? 330 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: How's that that end? 331 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: Well? The thing with Cousins is what is he willing 332 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: to do? Is he allowed to be what we call 333 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: in the mixed guy for the starting job or does 334 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: he want to be handed the starting job? He doesn't 335 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: need the money. He's got ten million. He's got ten 336 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 3: million fully guarantee the season. Anyway, I think he's got 337 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: this restructure deal with forces the Falcons. Hey, look, Cousins 338 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: at his agent, Mike McCartney. Agreed to this so the 339 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: Falcons so he could become free. Yep, he probably will 340 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: look to start first. That's just my sense because you 341 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 3: know what, if you gave thirty two teams true seerum, 342 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: I bet you eight of them could tell you honestly 343 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: that they don't know exactly who their starting quarterback will be. 344 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: Cousins is going to receive interest, won't just be for 345 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: a backup. To be honest with. 346 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: You, all right, time for two more for Adam kaplan. 347 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: Malik willis what's Malik willis going to be like as 348 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: a full time starter, and where do you think it'll be. 349 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Malik Willis is one now he Here's the thing 350 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: with Malik Willis, I don't have him as a backup. 351 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: Why the tape for the few starts he made was 352 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: really really good. Look, you could see him go to 353 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh anywhere where they're going to run. They're going to 354 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: run a West Coast offense. He finally got it. Took 355 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: him long enough. He was awful in Tennessee. He really matured. 356 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: They found a team and the Packers who really coached 357 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: him hard. He's a compete guy. Now could he go 358 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 3: as the starter for a team? That's a little species 359 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: for me. That's Ford thinking, I'm not there yet. I 360 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: know some people think so. I don't agree with that yet. 361 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: Ye again, I know a lot of teams need to 362 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: start a quarterback. But are you really willing to pay 363 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: him twenty to twenty five million a year to be 364 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: your starter when he hasn't even played close to full season. 365 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: That is really Ford. 366 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: Thinking, yeah, no doubt. 367 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: Last one, the Vikings acting general manager is somebody I know, 368 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: you know quite well. He's been with the team twenty 369 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: seven years. Capologist Poison pill mastermind whole thing. Rob Razinski's 370 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: the acting general manager here. What do you think about 371 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: all that with the combine free agency and the draft. 372 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was on the show last month 373 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 3: when the news broke about Quoice of being fired, and 374 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: I said, look, Rob has been around a lot of 375 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: people in his career, whether it's Miami or Minnesota, a 376 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: lot of gms, a lot of personnel people. Obviously, Rix, 377 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: bilmot Rick and here are very close friends. He understands 378 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: how you build a football team. And I also believe 379 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: Rob will be smart enough to listen to the guys 380 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: will work on him for this draft, and that's what 381 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: he has to do. There are a lot of good 382 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: veteran personnel people that are still there and he's just 383 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: got to do that. And if that happens, I expect 384 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 3: this to be a team that will improve be improved 385 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: this season. We know that if JJ McCarthy is starting, 386 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: he's got to play. Betty also has got to stay healthy. 387 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: Their offensive line is attacked. That we'll see about Ryan 388 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 3: Kelly with his concussion history, Asen's back, Jefferson's back, Jones 389 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: for now at least Jordan Mason, who, if healthy, is 390 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: a quality guy. They're going to be able to score 391 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: points if the quarterback plays better. Van kingles back. He's 392 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: got to stay healthy that the two older tackles, Alan 393 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: and Hargrave. By the way, based on contact structure, there's 394 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: enough guaranteed Miney to keep on the roster. But would 395 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: it surprise anyone if both are gone after the season. 396 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, as you said earlier to start this talk here, 397 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: the Vikings have a lot of work to do. There's 398 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: no question for their offseason. 399 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan, Thank you very much. 400 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: You got it man. 401 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: Nine to Noon continues after that