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Speaker 1: Despite what you may have heard from some of the

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Speaker 1: national media, maybe even some local media, it was a

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Speaker 1: win last night and the Broncos are now sitting in

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Speaker 1: top not only the AFC, but also the NFL at

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Speaker 1: eight and two. Welcome to the show, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards,

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Speaker 1: Nate Jackson is studio high.

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Speaker 2: Nates. Hey, how are you? I'm doing great, Dave Logan,

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Speaker 2: We got you on the phone.

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Speaker 3: How are you hey, Guys, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you too, my friend. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, It's it is all over the

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Speaker 1: place the reaction to this game. As you had a

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Speaker 1: beat now to think about what you saw last night

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Speaker 1: in the win over the division rival Raiders.

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Speaker 2: What do you come down on here, Dave.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's I mean, two things can be true, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Broncos should be a Bronco fans should

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Speaker 3: be excited that this.

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Speaker 1: Team is eight and two.

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Speaker 3: Nobody else says eight wins right now at least, and

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Speaker 3: they're a top d AFC West. I also think it's

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Speaker 3: okay to be more than mildly concerned about what they

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Speaker 3: saw last night with with the Denver offense. And I

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Speaker 3: think the question is what two or three things can

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Speaker 3: they do in a relatively short period of time. It's

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Speaker 3: not like they have an off season to work on

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Speaker 3: stuff to you know, get both settled back in. I

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Speaker 3: thought that last night he was unsettled more than I've

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Speaker 3: seen him in this season's play, right. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: in the pocket. There were things that were there that

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Speaker 3: he didn't see, and I mean too many, too many penalties,

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Speaker 3: certainly offensively, receivers not running routes completely. So it was

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Speaker 3: just a it was a myriad of things that sort

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Speaker 3: they've got to be honest about this and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're we're happy, happy as hell that we're eight two,

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Speaker 3: but we've got to get this offense hung track, become

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Speaker 3: much more efficient and we better find a way to

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Speaker 3: do that in the next ten days.

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Speaker 2: Phils. Though, now it's the case, Nate, what did you

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Speaker 2: see last night? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think first of all, it's important to acknowledge the

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Speaker 4: rivalry with the Raiders, and the fact that the Raiders,

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Speaker 4: despite being bad a year after year, coming here and

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Speaker 4: usually give the Broncos a good game, and they did

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Speaker 4: that last night. They were ready to play and you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm walking around the field and their sideline.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they were juiced.

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Speaker 4: They were ready for that game, even though they don't

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Speaker 4: have a lot to play for. What they have to

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Speaker 4: play for is beating the Broncos and spoiling the Broncos

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Speaker 2: And so I think they came ready to play.

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Speaker 4: That said the Broncos, you know, their defense is fantastic,

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Speaker 4: and the offenses what was the opposite? And you know,

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Speaker 4: to Dave's point about bo, I mean the most basic

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Speaker 4: quick pass throws that gets you started and as a receiver,

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Speaker 4: you get your hands on and then you can look

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Speaker 4: upfield and try to make a move. I mean he's

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Speaker 4: hitting them in the dirt, he's throwing them above their heads.

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Speaker 4: They're not even completing the most basic easy passes.

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Speaker 2: And so I just wonder, why, why, what is it

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Speaker 4: Throws that you're not making, both the ones where you're

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Speaker 4: and you're not throwing it just you're just probably play

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Speaker 4: catch here. And you know, three straight runs to JK.

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Speaker 4: Dobbins to start the game, you don't see much more

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Speaker 2: But I only had one more in the first half.

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Speaker 5: In me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a game where he should have got

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Speaker 4: twenty five thirty carries, especially when you're you know, your

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Speaker 2: Now we take it a little banged up.

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Speaker 1: We found it out for the fact there was a

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Speaker 1: hip drop tackle and Tom Pelisero, by the way, he

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Speaker 1: so hopefully nothing significant there. He said he was finding

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, do they overlook the raiders or you know,

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Speaker 2: Obviously they're tired. That goes into it.

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Speaker 4: They've been at it since training camp as week ten here,

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Speaker 4: so that's something the short week of preparation.

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Speaker 2: How to that affect them? Offensively?

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Speaker 4: They're very sloppy, more more more flax than first downs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is a head scratcher there.

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Speaker 4: Not great and Sean Payton, who's an excellent coach, continues

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Speaker 4: the only team in the NFL with eight wins day.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this because that came.

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Speaker 1: Up a little bit last night when you just sort

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Speaker 1: of allude to their night about the fatigue factor. They've

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Speaker 1: been going pretty hard, obviously, from training camp all the

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Speaker 1: that bye week following the London trip. Now again, you

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Speaker 1: win the game, so I guess you know the result

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Speaker 1: of the decision was a good one because you're on

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Speaker 1: the streak in part because you didn't do that. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, is there something to that not

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I think fatigue in an

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Speaker 3: NFL season is real. I think anybody who's ever played

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Speaker 3: more of a mental fatigue factor. And I get back,

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Speaker 3: I get back to offense, and I get back to

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Speaker 3: bo Nicks. I think that there are times, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and Sean, hey, listen, Sean.

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Speaker 5: May completely disagree with this, but.

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Speaker 3: I think Sean Payton, over the course of his career

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Speaker 3: has come up with some of the most creative offensive ideas.

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Speaker 3: They're intricate, they're sophisticated. There the verbiage is long, and

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Speaker 3: I do believe this, I mean and this I mean,

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Speaker 3: I believe it, but it's conjecture. Calling that game last night,

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Speaker 3: I thought Bo was so unsettled in the pocket. And

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Speaker 3: my conclusion was that there are times for young players,

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Speaker 3: no matter what the position, certainly a quarterback, that you

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Speaker 3: can have paralysis by analysis, and that you can you

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Speaker 3: you know what, it just doesn't click and it doesn't fire.

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Speaker 5: And so I think, to.

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Speaker 3: Me, when you have stuff like we witnessed last night,

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Speaker 3: I thought there were times that Bo was casual in

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Speaker 3: times he probably lapsed into that. But I would try

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Speaker 3: when you know it's like that. And in their defense, they.

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Speaker 5: Had very difficult field position.

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Speaker 3: Of their first four series, two of those came inside

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Speaker 3: their own two yard line, right, I mean, they have

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Speaker 3: right now be like caught in a very stiff breeze,

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Speaker 3: bit more specific with your play pass stuff on where

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Speaker 3: four in a checkdown. Maybe there's some routes that it's

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Speaker 3: me to say they're sitting out there right now trying

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Speaker 3: you know I'm not, but that would be how I

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you both, since you're both receivers,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this one, Nate, how much

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Speaker 1: of the struggles we saw a bit last night if

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Speaker 1: quarterback and receivers, right, Because I think the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: by and large had a pretty good night. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby is Max Crosby, but in general I thought

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Speaker 2: So let's just for now focus in on that.

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Speaker 1: You got play calling, You've got to the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: who had some drops last night as well.

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Speaker 2: So as the pie chart looks, what's that listen look like.

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Speaker 4: For you, I'd say probably forty forty twenty when it comes,

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Speaker 4: you know, forty Sean Payton, forty Bo Knicks twenty.

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Speaker 2: With the receivers.

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Speaker 4: Because there was also that deep interception the Bo Nicks

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Speaker 4: He doesn't think Bo's gonna throw against his body across

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Speaker 4: the field on a deep post like that. But still

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Speaker 4: you got to run your route and be ready for it.

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Speaker 4: But what I alluded to before that the simple stuff

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Speaker 4: having Ingram had some drops Troy Franklin had one to

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Speaker 4: I think the third and one double pass, the Corland sudden.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you just run the ball, you know, I

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Speaker 4: mean hindsight of course, run the ball, but you know

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Speaker 4: you need points there. You're almost in field goal range

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Speaker 4: there that you're tied seven to seven. These are crucial moments,

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Speaker 4: and you know it's He was asked about it after

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Speaker 4: the game and it was, yeah, this plays been up

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Speaker 4: that's too much, and sometimes it feels like Sean Payton

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Speaker 4: the simple thing not only works but also endears you

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Speaker 4: to your teammates more because it makes them or to

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Speaker 4: in us to go get that hard yard in a

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Speaker 4: dirty way. We're just going to fire off and go

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Speaker 4: up that yard. We can do that, coach. Instead, you're

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Speaker 4: throwing the ball five yards behind the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 4: punt it. So I think everyone had their fingerprints on that.

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Speaker 4: But I think Bo and Sean are probably most at

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Speaker 2: What about you, Dave? How do you come down on that?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't any good at map right, You're way better

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Speaker 3: than me, is it? I don't know about the forty thing.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody had a hand in it. I'm a

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Speaker 3: big believer that, hey, if one side of the ball

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Speaker 3: is not playing, well, you got to look at everything.

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Speaker 3: You got to look at play designed, you got to

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Speaker 3: look at personnel packages, you got to look at play selection.

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Speaker 3: But you know, as Sean Payton knows this, he doesn't

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Speaker 5: All right, how'd you do that? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's perfectly said, and that's honestly confidence

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Speaker 3: And I think the Broncos are still honestly in search

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Speaker 3: But the Broncos are not there right now, so they

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Speaker 1: Some lots of the defense here. Nate, Oh yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: So we had to watch that yesterday.

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Speaker 4: His timing seems off. You put him under it allows

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Speaker 1: Dave last out here on the defense before we let

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean that they're having a special year,

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that to be true. I think you

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Speaker 3: I mean I watched when the Broncos turned the ball

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Speaker 3: I've seen teams that do that, and sooner or later,

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Speaker 2: I believe so too. Dave, appreciate you, my friend. Thanks

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, have your weekend.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, said boys the moroncos Dave Logan. And yeah, there.

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Speaker 1: He called in and he brought up a really good

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Speaker 4: You know, you want to be this kind of juggernaut

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Speaker 4: You know, you have a bad week and then you

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Speaker 1: But you're talking about players jobs on the line. Coaches

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Speaker 1: jobs are on the line as well in performances. So

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Speaker 1: all right, Rob Early here on a victory Friday. Hey

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Speaker 1: to the Kae Commas Spirit of Health hot Line and

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Speaker 1: bring on Pats or Tan and joins us here on

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Speaker 1: k Sports Every Friday. Pat your own Nate Jackson and

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Speaker 1: Ryan Edwards.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir? We're doing great.

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Speaker 1: Man, your defense we got we got started the defense. Man,

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Speaker 1: what had five sacks? Le Broncos defense had five sacks

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Speaker 1: in the first half and ended up with six dominance performance.

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Speaker 2: What did you like from that group last night?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 6: It's a whole march to like from that group.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: You know, them boys is game after it even through

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Speaker 6: the missive adversity throughout the game, you know what I

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Speaker 6: mean sometimes you know, I mean they was, you know,

462
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Speaker 6: took territory looking at the score and you know, we

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Speaker 6: came through. A pressure was needed and they came through.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: So they made some big time key playing throughout the game,

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Speaker 6: you know, and they made the fail for Gino back there.

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Speaker 2: Pat Obviously you had to stand on the sideline and watch.

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Speaker 2: You're not used to that.

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Speaker 4: You're also the best player in the world, the defensive

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Speaker 4: player of the year. So it's very rare that a

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Speaker 4: defensive player of the year has to sit and watch.

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Speaker 4: And I'm wondering if you see anything different, if you

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Speaker 4: what the experience is like watching when you're just so

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Speaker 4: used to preparing and competing, when you're down there on

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Speaker 4: the sideline.

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Speaker 2: What do you see anything different?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's a different learnages than what I'm really

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Speaker 6: familiar to, so obviously it took some adjustin to get

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Speaker 6: used to.

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Speaker 7: You know, sometimes you see certain things out there that

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Speaker 7: you made not see on the field, and you sort

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Speaker 7: of tried to use that as a benefit to help

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Speaker 7: the other guys on the field, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 7: because I feel like I'm their.

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Speaker 6: Second eye out there as well, being that the extra

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Speaker 6: leader and extra captain. I feel like when I'm off

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Speaker 6: the field, it might due diligence to my.

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Speaker 8: Job to help the other guys, and you know, I

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Speaker 8: mean that's that was my role last night. And uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, I feel like all the boys did a

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Speaker 8: good job of seeing what they were seeing, reading their keys.

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Speaker 3: And I mean it was just a well.

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Speaker 5: Dominant well around the game all around.

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Speaker 6: So it felt good teeming boys dominate out there. But

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Speaker 6: it was also like, man, I can't wait to get

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Speaker 6: back out there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure and especially I imagine a division game, right,

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Speaker 1: I know, they know you've been here for a while. Now,

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Speaker 1: you got the Chiefs on the other side of this

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Speaker 1: many bye week, and then of course you've got a

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Speaker 1: couple more Division games after that, so I imagine there was

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Speaker 1: just a little bit of extras use plus prime time

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Speaker 1: that has a certain kind of electricity.

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Speaker 2: Is there something though about the division games?

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Speaker 1: Because I mean it was a ten to seven kind

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Speaker 1: of sloppy game last night. Is there something just about

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Speaker 1: Division games that sometimes invites that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I feel like with this game coming

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Speaker 9: up against the Chiefs, you know where we all experienced

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Speaker 9: team within them, I feel like some of those eras

511
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Speaker 9: we can't be had in consistently, you know, because it'll.

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Speaker 6: Cost us in games you know like.

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Speaker 9: That, and even hurt it down the road, you know

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Speaker 9: what I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, because it seems like every game gets bigger and

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Speaker 6: bigger down the stretch. So we got we got to

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Speaker 6: understand that, you know, even though we got the win,

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Speaker 6: did a lot of corrections that we need to you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean, that we need to fix and

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Speaker 6: work on. So, you know, especially in an O visual

521
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Speaker 6: game like this, you know, everybody's gonna give us a

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Speaker 6: bench out within the division. So that's like it's up

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Speaker 6: to us to lock you in and you know, fix

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Speaker 6: we need to fix and you know, get on this road.

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Speaker 4: Can you talk a little bit about the impact that

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Speaker 4: a big special teams play like the one jail Skinner

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Speaker 4: had the block punt blocked it with his face mask,

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Speaker 4: just like they teach you to do it. Yeah, can

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Speaker 4: you talk a little bit about can you talk a

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Speaker 4: little bit about what that does for a defense or

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Speaker 4: an offense when when a guy on your team makes

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Speaker 4: it playing special teams.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it means a lot, Man, when you

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Speaker 6: see guys capitalized in their role, making the impact in

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Speaker 6: they role, you know what I mean. I feel like

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Speaker 6: some guys could really like.

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Speaker 3: Be a fen of by it.

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Speaker 6: I feel like, man, I deserve a different role. But

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Speaker 6: when you talk about jail Man, he's a hell of

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Speaker 6: a player that could be a starter on any defense.

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Speaker 6: But also he's he's just got the tenacity and the

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Speaker 6: effort to go out there no matter what, and they

543
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Speaker 6: could play regardless. And that's what you've seen yesterday. And

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Speaker 6: you know, I mean, he really went in there and

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Speaker 6: made a play that we needed throughout the.

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Speaker 9: Game, a big time play.

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Speaker 6: You know, he lived for.

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Speaker 5: Moments like that.

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Speaker 6: He could tell like the whole sideline was rallying up,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, it was getting hyped because

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Speaker 6: you love to see guys that work hard day in

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Speaker 6: and day out and make players like that in a

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Speaker 6: crucier part of the game.

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Speaker 3: So it's very excited to see last couple here.

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Speaker 1: For you, Pat, I definitely want to check in on

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Speaker 1: how you're feeling. We talked to you last week and

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Speaker 1: said that you've been getting up early in the morning

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Speaker 1: getting in there for treatments and Nate was sharing the

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Speaker 1: stories just about what that whole process tends to be

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Speaker 1: like for players.

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Speaker 2: How's your treatment going, How you feeling?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, treatment going well, Man, it's pretty much you know,

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Speaker 6: feeling I'll say, like, so, I mean I'm progressing the

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Speaker 6: right way, but uh, you know, I mean the trainers

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Speaker 6: have been doing a good job, the staff and making

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Speaker 6: sure that getting the right rehab and making sure I

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Speaker 6: get my strength back, because I think that's the most

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Speaker 6: important thing, you know with these pecks is.

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Speaker 9: You know, you may feel good, but the.

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Speaker 6: Strength may not be there. So it's very important, very

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Speaker 6: uh you know, valuable that make sure that you know

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Speaker 6: is staying here, that copying in the right way. So

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Speaker 6: and that's where it's trending to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably not bench pressing yet, right.

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Speaker 9: Nah, I ain't doing that, so you know, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, like there's there's standard rehab stuff like the ice,

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Speaker 4: the electric stimulation, the ultrasound, but then there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of new age stuff like lasers, blue lasers, red lasers, acupuncture.

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Speaker 4: What are there any kind of interesting, not experimental but

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Speaker 4: less traditional sort of rehab techniques that you're going through

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Speaker 4: or is it kind of just the standard rest ice

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Speaker 4: mobility stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, the standard stuff that has

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Speaker 6: been proven to work and help, which you know, uh,

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Speaker 6: in the in the field, man, there's so much.

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Speaker 9: Things have evolved within that field.

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Speaker 6: So it's like you get chiro therapy, you get red light.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously you contrast and uh heat and ice,

589
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 6: but you know, it's so much and you know the

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Speaker 6: best thing about you know, our rocos and aathletic staff

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Speaker 6: and the organization is that the owners and the staff

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Speaker 6: that does so much into our bodies. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 6: they they went and got state of the art equipment,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, in the state of the

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Speaker 6: art modalities to make sure that our bodies is up

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Speaker 6: to speed and make sure our bodies recovery efficiently. But

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, we get a ownership group

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Speaker 6: and a training staff that cares about the players so much,

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Speaker 6: and that value is that time with then you, you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean it's proven to help a lot, and that's

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Speaker 6: what's going on right now, all right.

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Speaker 1: So we have a little bit of technical difficulties on

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Speaker 1: the kid caster question. So I'm just gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: sort of what is what is your general plan in

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Speaker 1: bye weeks many by weeks? What do you try to

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Speaker 1: do to maybe unplug a little bit from the game

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Speaker 1: before you guys get ready for the next one.

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Speaker 3: Sure, man, I just I just I just like to relax.

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Speaker 6: What is that getting into it nature. I mentioned on

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Speaker 6: my podcast the other day that I've been I've been

611
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Speaker 6: going grounding a little bit, something that I haven't done

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Speaker 6: in the past, but something I heard that's beneficially know,

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Speaker 6: just trying new things.

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Speaker 9: Trying new hobbies and just moving that scale.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I mean, I'm gonna definitely take the

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Speaker 6: time to rest.

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Speaker 9: Enjoy the weekend and you know, I mean get back

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Speaker 9: to this rehabit the techic, So get back on the

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Speaker 9: field as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: That sounds great, well, Pat, we really appreciate the time

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Speaker 1: my friends.

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Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy this many bye week and we'll check you with

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Speaker 1: you next week.

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Speaker 3: All right, appreciate you, all right.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Patser Tan Broncos starting cornerback and the Children's hospital call her.

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Speaker 2: And I imagine for the most part, when.

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Speaker 1: You're rehabbing many by or full by week, you probably

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Speaker 1: don't get to go too far, you don't.

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Speaker 4: He's probably in there today, that's right. Everybody else got

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Speaker 4: to leave. That's part of just the doldrums of being

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Speaker 4: an injured player.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Everyone goes home and you stay, you stay on that

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Speaker 4: training table, you know. But but you have a lot

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Speaker 4: of time to think, you know, yeah, and you have

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Speaker 4: a lot of time to motivate yourself.

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Speaker 2: That's a good thing to have a lot of time

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Speaker 2: to think.

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Speaker 4: It can be but it can also be, you know,

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Speaker 4: a detriment. It can be very lonely. Yes, And you

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Speaker 4: see a lot of guys who end up with some

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Speaker 4: kind of mental health issues when they're dealing with an injury,

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Speaker 4: because you know, passes a lot of end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 4: It's not a season ending injury. He's going to be

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Speaker 4: back on the field, so he can see himself being

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Speaker 4: there sooner than later. But if you're to get a

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Speaker 4: severe injury, you're done for the season. You're self worth

653
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: immediately disappears. My entire worth is what I'm doing on

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Speaker 4: the field. If I'm not on the field, who am

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Speaker 4: I Even? Nobody calls me anymore. No one's talking to

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Speaker 4: me and asking me about the game. The coach doesn't

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Speaker 4: even look at you in the eye when you pass

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Speaker 4: them in the hall anymore. I mean, you really disappear.

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Speaker 4: And so it can be a pair of the situation.

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Speaker 4: And then that's why it's so important to have a

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Speaker 4: great support staff on the team dealing for guys who

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Speaker 4: are dealing with these types of things, because the physical

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Speaker 4: injury leads to some mental issues as well.

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Speaker 1: I've said for years thinking too much can be a problem.

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Speaker 1: You know, I lived my life that way. And well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're a man of many talents. It's hard

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Speaker 1: not to think. Listen, you going back the other way.

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Speaker 1: That's great stuff.

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Speaker 2: It was a compliment last night.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: Really awesome.

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Speaker 1: My heart radio app Well, you never it's an episode

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Speaker 1: of the show. You can even said KI Sports as

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Speaker 1: a preset, so you open the app and you're like,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what's going on with K Sports. I want

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Speaker 1: to hear Patser Tan. You just click the button there

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Speaker 1: and it's right there, so it's pretty cool stuff. We'll

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Speaker 1: have a chance for you to win a fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: over the next three hours, so we'll give that away

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Speaker 1: here in a second. I did think that, and thank

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Speaker 1: you to b K for pointing this out, and I

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Speaker 1: was going to point out as well, but the forty

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Speaker 1: six percent certainly does not sound like a guy that's

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Speaker 1: playing next really good for six which was a great

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Speaker 1: a very specific number, but also not a I'm getting

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Speaker 1: ready to come back out in the field next week.

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Speaker 1: So which is you know, discretion, right? I mean in

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Speaker 1: this case, understanding what's his stake. You're eight and two,

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Speaker 1: you built yourself a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of a cushion. Plus some of these guys are playing

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Speaker 2: really well.

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Speaker 1: So you say, we need Patser Tan to accomplish the

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Speaker 1: goals that we have this season, and we need him

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Speaker 1: playing as close to eighty ninety maybe even one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent probably won't be that high, but you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, and we can wait through the bye week

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Speaker 1: to get him back for the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're eating two first place. Your defenses has arguably

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Speaker 4: had the last two games two of their better best performances,

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Speaker 4: you know, or at least up there. So don't rush

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Speaker 4: this guy back. He's at forty six percent. What's he

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Speaker 4: going to be next week?

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Speaker 5: You know? Right?

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Speaker 2: And it's and what is he is at four or.

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Speaker 4: Five percent per day? It's not right, you know, seven tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: maybe fifty one. Yeah, but uh but again, you know,

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Speaker 4: I come from the school of thought that when it's

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Speaker 4: a when you say you're ready, we're going to give.

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Speaker 2: You another week.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because you say you're ready, because you do feel ready,

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Speaker 4: because you never no one's ever one hundred percent. And

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Speaker 4: in football, you you know, you want to get to that,

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Speaker 4: but no one's ever one hundred percent. You're always feeling

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Speaker 4: something and you go out there and the adrenaline of

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Speaker 4: the moment and maybe a little tour it All injection

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Speaker 4: or whatever they put in them these days.

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Speaker 2: We'll get you ready.

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Speaker 4: But you don't want Patrick to Tan to have to

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Speaker 4: to have to go through any extreme measures to get

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Speaker 4: on the field when he comes back. You want it

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Speaker 4: to be able to crystal clear, I didn't need anything

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Speaker 4: to be here.

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Speaker 2: I feel good, I'm ready to go. So I say

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Speaker 2: wait till after that bye week makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: And you'd like to have him obviously.

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Speaker 1: For the Chiefs game. And I'm sure there a lot

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Speaker 1: of Broncos fans like, no, no, no, we need him, we

729
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Speaker 1: need you do need him, you do need him, but

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Speaker 1: you don't want to suffer a set back. And I

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Speaker 1: love the point you make there is even though when

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Speaker 1: you say you're ready, it's probably in the best discretion

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Speaker 1: of the team to step in and.

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Speaker 2: Say yeah, he say that.

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Speaker 1: But and in reality is you are going to get

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Speaker 1: back a couple of guys, well at least one guy

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Speaker 1: you hopefully Marvin Mims can be available for this game

738
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Speaker 1: come against the Chiefs, And honestly, this offense really needs him.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how significant Marvin Mims was to the

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Speaker 1: flow of this team. I think by the last two

741
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Speaker 1: weeks and how the offenses looked, they really miss Marvin Mimsy.

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Speaker 1: It seems apparent at this point they probably really miss

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Speaker 1: Nate Adkins too. Yeah, you know, I mean you just

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if we'll have a Nate Adkins

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Speaker 1: back by then. We have no update whatsoever on Nate,

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Speaker 1: but Marvin Mims and concussion protocol. You hope by the

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Speaker 1: time we come the MIDI bie he'll be available for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Marvin Mims a special talent. Sean Payton a struggle

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Speaker 4: to figure out how exactly to get him involved in

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Speaker 4: the offense, but they came up with something and then

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Speaker 4: he put him.

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Speaker 2: In the backfield.

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Speaker 4: They have him doing a lot of motion and get

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Speaker 4: the ball in his hands, and he's a dynamic player

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Speaker 4: and other teams respect that.

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Speaker 2: You know, they respect the abilities.

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Speaker 4: Of Marvin Mims. And when he's not there, you don't

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Speaker 4: have to keep an eye on him. I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: relative to Nate Atkins. Listen, look, the tight ends are

760
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Speaker 4: a big thorn in the side of the Broncos offense

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Speaker 4: right now. I mean, the tight ends are not pulling

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Speaker 4: their weight. Adam Troutman is supposed to be a blocking

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Speaker 4: tight end and I think he thought instead last night

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Speaker 4: we're supposed to play Patty k.

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Speaker 2: Because he wasn't.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't sticking his head in there and being physical

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Speaker 4: on those blocks, and you need that.

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Speaker 2: And from the.

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Speaker 4: Guy who is the self professed blocking tight end.

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Speaker 2: I'm the guy who's gonna be the blocker. I'm that guy.

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Speaker 4: Well then he has to be better, Evan Ingram, you

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Speaker 4: got to be better, man. I mean, balls just falling

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Speaker 4: off of his fingertips. His hands look like they're all discombobulated.

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Speaker 4: Ball's coming in the air and he's like, how do

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Speaker 4: I do this again? And it just hits his hands

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Speaker 4: and falls to the ground. Evan Ingram has been a

777
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Speaker 4: difficult experiment here, supposed to be the joker, but to me,

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Speaker 4: he has a fairly limited skill set. He's not a

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Speaker 4: big body tight end who's going to go up and

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Speaker 4: over somebody and get it. So he has to be

781
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Speaker 4: in space and he has to create that space.

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Speaker 2: But if you create that.

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Speaker 4: Space, you have to catch the ball and then you

784
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Speaker 4: got to do something with it. But he's also not

785
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Speaker 4: a blocker, and so they don't ever ask him to

786
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Speaker 4: be the point of attack on a side of a

787
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Speaker 4: running play, and so it's very easy to understand why

788
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Speaker 4: he's on the field and what they are going to

789
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Speaker 4: be doing. When he's on the field. Or rather what

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Speaker 4: they're not going to be doing when he's on the field.

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Speaker 4: And so when it's Adam Trouman and it's Evan Ingram

792
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Speaker 4: taking the majority of the snaps at tight end, and

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Speaker 4: both of those guys are having issues in a league

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Speaker 4: where the tight end is like the fulcrum of the offense.

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Speaker 4: He's a run block, he's a pass protector, he's a

796
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Speaker 4: pass catcher and and a lot of times your tight

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Speaker 4: end allows you to create the mismatches. Right, That's why

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Speaker 4: you wanted the joker. That's why you put two tight

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Speaker 4: ends out there, because if they go big on you,

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Speaker 4: then you pass it. If they go small, then you

801
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: run it with the two tight ends. But they have

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Speaker 4: to be able to block and they have to be

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00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: able to catch. And we're a little bit, like I said, discombobulated.

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Speaker 4: There By the way, have you ever been combobulated? I

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Speaker 4: have nots one of those weird words, right, it only

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Speaker 4: works with the antecedent or the negative.

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Speaker 2: Are we allowed to say that in the air?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 2: Never mind?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Three all three seven three eighty five eighty five,

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Speaker 1: caller number five, Right now? Three all three seven one

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Speaker 1: three eighty five eighty five Collar five is gonna win

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Speaker 1: to give away next hour. Another one get to give

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Speaker 1: away in the five o'clock hour. You know this offense

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Speaker 1: needs it needs an Eate Jackson type. Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 1: would be that would be pretty cool. All right, well

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Speaker 1: come back, I want to get you guys.

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Speaker 2: In reaction five six six nine zero to the game.

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Speaker 1: Also, young Zack Seegers pointed out something that I want

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Speaker 1: to run by you coming up next