1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: All right, there you go. 2 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:01,639 Speaker 2: Five that for four. 3 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Oeger. The UC football 4 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: team begins spring practice next week. A whole lot of 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: new faces to sift through, coordinators, lots going on it. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: You see forty six new faces. It's a lot, even 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: in this day and age. The head coach of the 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Bearcats always kind enough to join us whenever we ask 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: s gott Sadderfield, It's awesome to have you, coach. How 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: are you? 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How you doing? 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I appreciate you doing this. So spring 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: practice is about to begin. Described for me what the 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: last couple of months have been like, just in terms 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: of all the changes, all the new guys coming into 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: the program. 17 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think the good news is, you know, 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: we had all our whole strength staff or you know, 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: coming back and are here. You know, these guys have 20 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: been with us the whole time I've been here, you know, 21 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: going on a year four now, and so anytime you 22 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: got that that, it's a smooth transition when you get 23 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: to the winter program, because once that happens, you get 24 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: all these new faces in here. You know, we set 25 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: our agenda for the winner and we've been doing that, 26 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: which is you know, lifting weights, getting stronger, trying to 27 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: develop our guys, uh, going out on the field and running. 28 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: This is the first winner that we've had, you know, 29 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: the brand new indoor here that it's incredible to be 30 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: able to go out and guys get some great work 31 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: out in there and and really do a lot of 32 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: football stuff as well as running and cutting, you know, 33 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: trying to get all that done. You know, and you've 34 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: got you got new quarterbacks, got new receivers, so you've 35 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: got to get timing throwing. So these guys are you know, 36 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: in their own time just coming out here throwing. You know, 37 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: we're gearing up for spring practice. So really the last 38 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: two months has just been just been doing that, you know, 39 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: doing some meetings with the guys, trying to put in 40 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: our new defense and offense, and just trying to continue 41 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: to get better for spring ball. 42 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Give me two or three things that are at the 43 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: top of your to do list for spring ball starting 44 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: on Monday. 45 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think number one when you look at you know, 46 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: coach woodis here. Obviously a brand new defensive coordinator coming 47 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: over from Army, you know, and we had Army they 48 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: were one of the best defenses historically the last five seasons. 49 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: You know, he was my defensive coordinator app State for 50 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: six years, did a great job for us there. Having 51 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: him here really for them is just put in the defense, 52 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: you know, getting the guys comfortable with the calls, learning 53 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: where alignment's going to be, trying to figure out, you know, 54 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: where it's the best spot for all these guys. That'll 55 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: be a you know, part of our our spring practice 56 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: is moving guys around and putting them in some different 57 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: positions to see what they can do, and then let 58 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: them play at a at a you know, high level 59 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: doing that. And then you know, spring ball is like 60 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier. You know, you got some new quarterbacks 61 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: in here, and you got some new receivers. So really 62 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: it's just trying to get all those guys on the 63 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: same page, you know, within their offense, you know, lining up, 64 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: running round. 65 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: So it's just a. 66 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: Lot of fundamental work. I think when you look at 67 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: spring practice anymore, this is across the country. You're gonna 68 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: have a lot of new faces each and every year 69 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: at every program, and so you know, it's about getting 70 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: everybody on the same page, understanding each other, competing at 71 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: a high level, really trying to connect as a football 72 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: team and just trying to continue to get better and better. 73 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: One of your newcomers is a quarterback from Georgia Southern, 74 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: J C. French. What do you like most about him? 75 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jay jac brings a great deal of 76 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: experience playing at Georgia Southern the last couple of years, 77 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: had two really good years. 78 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 4: You know. 79 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: Obviously, like the way he throws the football. The ball 80 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: comes off his hand, nice tight spiral, there's a really 81 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 2: good deep ball, you know, smart player. Also has some athleticism. 82 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: You know, he's a guy that rush for over three 83 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: hundred yards of judge Georgia Southern last year and you know, 84 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: six or seven touchdowns, So he certainly can provide you 85 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: know a little bit of the running game with that, 86 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: you know. But I like his pois too, you know, 87 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: everything that we've been doing here, he's got a great 88 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: deal of poise. The guys like him. He's a good leader. 89 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, he was a captain at Geordia Southern as well, 90 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: so you know, there's a lot of things to like 91 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: about him. Again, it's just him getting comfortable with what 92 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: we're doing offensively, and and again that's what spring practice 93 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: will be all about. 94 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: In this day and age where there's so much turnover, 95 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: how nice is it to be able to lean on 96 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: three returning players from a very good offensive line. 97 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, that's that's awesome for us. 98 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: We felt like we were in great sht last year 99 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: offensive line wise heading into the season. You know, we're 100 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: feeling good about it again this year. You know, you 101 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: bringing back Evan Tanya Sall. That's a that's an outstanding player, 102 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: that was an All American last season. You know, glad 103 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: we're able to hang on to him. And this day 104 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: in a hazy way, everybody tries to poach your players, 105 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: and and he certainly was one that that they came after. 106 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: And to be able to keep him here was was 107 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: tremendous for us. Having Joe Cotton come back and tearing 108 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: Tyer who who I think. You know, those three guys 109 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: will be three of the better linemen in the Big 110 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: twelve next season, you know, And we got a bunch 111 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: of guys that that played last year that'll be in 112 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: the mix and rotation, you know, at the other spots. 113 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: But to have those those guys and anchor you know, 114 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: anchor type players and three of the better type O 115 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 2: linemen in this Big twelve and even in the country. 116 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: It's great to have those goes back and then, and 117 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: it's the leadership, you know, the leadership of those guys 118 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: up front. They know how to work. I'm excited about 119 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: the offensive line. We got a lot of depth there, 120 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: you know, and and the more depth that you have 121 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: obviously the better when you when you're thinking about the 122 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: guys up front. So it's exciting time. We do have 123 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: to replace Gavin Garhart, who was a tremendous leader and 124 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: was our starting center for the last three years, so 125 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: that be one of the things that we have to 126 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: work on this this spring. 127 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: Who that's gonna be. 128 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you mentioned Gavin, and and as last 129 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: season unfolded, I'd come down there to talk to players 130 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: for the radio show, and to a man, every single 131 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: one of them, the non lineman would mention Gavin Gerhart 132 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: and the leadership in the tone setting. You've You've got 133 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: some guys who I think can do that on the 134 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: offensive line, But like that's that's the sort of personality 135 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: whose influence permeated through the team. How do you replace that? 136 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: How do you replace that intangible that you got from 137 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: Gavin Gerhart last year. 138 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't think you can replace 139 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: it with one person. I think it's gonna be you know, 140 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: a several guys that will step up and lead. You know, 141 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: anytime you got a guy who's coming back as a 142 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: three time captain, I did everything, you know, right, he 143 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: was a coach in the locker room. You're not gonna 144 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: be able to replace that, you know, unless you got 145 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: a guy that's in that same scenario, which we don't, 146 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: you know. So it's it's some new guys, but it's 147 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: guys like Evan who's been here you know for a 148 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: long time now, you know, and Joe and tarn were 149 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: here all last year, so they're about you know, jt 150 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball has been there 151 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: for a long time. He's that kind of guy on 152 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: that on that side of the ball, he's really grown 153 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: up over over the course of his career here. He's 154 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: made a ton of plays for us and played a 155 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: great deal in our defense, so you know, we're leaning 156 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: on him on that side. Mark west Parker's a guy 157 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: who's played a lot of ball for us. Who's who's 158 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 2: I think it's done a great job this winner as well, 159 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: you know. But some of the guys that's been here 160 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: that know our culture, that know what we're looking for. 161 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: Those are the type guys that you got to lean on, 162 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: you know, and we mentioned the guys up front on 163 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: the old line. I think that those would be that type. 164 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: And then guys like jac You know, we have some 165 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: guys that are coming in that you know, in the 166 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: running back room and the receiver room that I think 167 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: bringing a great deal of experience, and you know, some 168 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: leadership that I think that will start to step up. 169 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: You know. 170 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: It's just something when you think about leadership though, it's 171 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: not something that you can get within a month or 172 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: two months. To me, that's something that's going to take time. 173 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: I do think that we're gonna have some great leaders 174 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: as we head throughout this spring practice and when you 175 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: go through the summer. By the time you get to August, 176 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: camp Man, we'll have a great idea about who those 177 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: leaders and who have stepped up over the last six months. 178 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: You and I talked a few years ago when you're 179 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: implementing the three three five defense, which, for lack of 180 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: a better way of putting it, while you see it 181 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: around college football a lot is quote non traditional. Is 182 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: it easier to get new guys up to speed when 183 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: with Coach Woody system, you're gonna be playing something that 184 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit more familiar in a in 185 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: a three to four. 186 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's certainly more familiar. You know, that's my 187 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: defense that I've played with my whole time as the 188 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: head coach, other than the last two seasons. So you know, 189 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: this certainly goes back to what I know a lot 190 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: about this defense, you know, and co Coach wood has 191 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: kind of been the architect of this defense and has 192 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: been doing it for a long time. It's been great 193 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: to have him in the building and manus so familiar 194 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: with what what I'm seeing now. And you know, I 195 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: think obviously the differences are going to be you know, 196 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna bring You're gonna bring more people to the quarterback, 197 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: and I think that's certainly a thing that you know, 198 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: Rykat fans will like the fact that we're going to 199 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: try to get after the quarterback a lot more than 200 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: we have in the last couple of years, and you know, 201 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: not let the quarterbacks just kind of sit back there 202 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: and pick us apart. So you know, for us, this 203 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: spring as trying to find those guys who can pass, 204 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, whether it be a linebackers off the edge. 205 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: You know, we're coming from the fields as a Sainety's 206 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: coming off the edge from the field. So you know, 207 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: those are the things that that we're gonna try to 208 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: have to find. But other than that, you know, we 209 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: got some good pieces to the puzzle for that defense. 210 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: We went out in the porn and got a bunch 211 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: of DB's, which I think we needed to do, and 212 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: some linebackers, so the back you know, the back half 213 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: of this defense or some some new faces back there, 214 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: but that they bring a great deal of talent that 215 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: to me is gonna be fun to watch and see. 216 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: You know, guys like m. J. Cannon that that come 217 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: in from Bowling Green and we played against last year. 218 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: I thought it was an outstanding player. 219 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 4: You know. 220 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: Kenny Worthy is a nice corner. You know, family is 221 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: the corner that started two years at n I uh. 222 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: You know, there's some good players that we brought in here. 223 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: Todd Goodwill came from South Alabama. Beeler it's a great player. 224 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: So so there's a lot of guys that can play 225 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: with multiple positions and so they find in the best 226 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: spot for those guys that can go cut loose and playball. 227 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: You've got springball and your season that you're getting ready for. 228 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: You also have former Bearcats who are getting said for 229 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, and I'm paying attention to the combine 230 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: this weekend. I watch people rave about Jeff Caldwell, which 231 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: if you know anything about him from a physical specimen standpoint, 232 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: you can understand why your pro day is in a 233 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: few weeks. What's you and your staff's role in getting 234 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: guys ready for the next level now that they've played 235 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: their final college football games. 236 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we got several guys that have just 237 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: stayed here and continue to work out with our strength staff. 238 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: I think one of the best strengths staffs in the country. 239 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: So why would you not stay here continue to train, 240 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, those guys get you right, man. 241 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: And there's you know, several of the guys are working 242 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: with agents, obviously, and these agents send them to certain 243 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: parts of the country to work with some of their guys, 244 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: which is that's fine as well, you know, but we're 245 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: always going to support our guys that played here, So 246 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: certainly we're gonna have this pro day here in a 247 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: couple of weeks and all these guys will come back. 248 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: There'll be a you know, a ton of personnel in 249 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: the building as we saw last fall. I mean every 250 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: day there's five, six, seven, eight, up to ten scouts 251 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: a day that were coming to watch our players, and 252 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: I think, you know, they should be they should have 253 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: been here. I mean these guys, these guys are good 254 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: players and they're they're. 255 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: They're physical freaks. 256 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: When you think of about Callwell, Calwell arguably had one 257 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: of the best days in the history of the combine. 258 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: When you think about wide receivers, and you know, Jake 259 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: gold is another one that had an unbelievable day. You know, 260 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: one of the top linebackers in the country that coming 261 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: out this year. So there's certainly going to be a 262 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: lot of interest to come and watch these guys. I'm 263 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: looking forward to to Pro Day, to seeing all the 264 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: NFL personnel and watching these guys show out. 265 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: That's a few weeks away. First things first, start a 266 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: spring practice on Monday, Coach. We appreciate the time as always, man, 267 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: thanks so much. 268 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, appreciate it most. Take care you. 269 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: Got at spring ball underway for the Bearcats on Monday 270 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: and everything takes you right up until April eighteenth. The 271 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: Spring Showcase, which was announced last week, that is going 272 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: to be at noon, open to the public, free Saturday, 273 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: April eighteenth, at Knippert Stadium at twelve noon sixteen after 274 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: four o'clock guest free for the next fifteen minutes or so. 275 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: Five win three seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty eight six 276 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: six seven oh two three seven seven six. Trey Hendrickson 277 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: is not being franchise tagged. We'll spend a few minutes 278 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: on that. We got to get set for a big 279 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: night of college basketball as well done early today UK 280 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: hoops at five thirty on Moegger's sixteen after four o'clock. 281 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports. 282 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 5: Station WCKY Cincinnati and iHeartRadio station guaranteed. 283 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Twenty two Hard Radio. After four o'clock. This is ESPN 284 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty on Moeger Sounded unsure myself there for a second, 285 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Hunter sands, Im'm the official bracketologist of this show, not 286 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: any of the other shows. This show is going to 287 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: be with us at five oh five. Hunter is more 288 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: than welcome, of course, to go on any other show 289 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: he pleases. And why would you not want him, but 290 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: we had him first. Oh, there was a moment he 291 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: was on another show here in the building last night, 292 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: and uh, you got to hear it. 293 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 6: You have to hear it. 294 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: So do you have the audio of this because he 295 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: did about it? Yes, I have that idea. You haven't 296 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: now I haven't. 297 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 5: Now. 298 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: All right, well, Hunter Sansom is our bracketologist. He's going 299 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: to be on at five oh five. He tweeted about 300 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: this moment. I did not get a chance to hear it. 301 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Go ahead and play it. 302 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 7: It's a pleasure. Welcome back to the show, Hunter, san 303 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 7: Thom Hunter. How are we doing well? 304 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Or I am so sorry? 305 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 7: Lance, Well this will be the last time you're coming 306 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 7: back now, it's so sorry. No, you're you're good. I 307 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 7: know you're all with MO. So it's perfectly understandable. 308 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: That's you know. Lance should be deeply offended. Lance should 309 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: be deeply offended. I once, many many years ago, he 310 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: had Mick Cronin on the show and three times during 311 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: the interview he referred to me as Lance, and again 312 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't care less. Lance should be offended. But like 313 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: after the third one, it's like you have to like coach, 314 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: Why do you keep calling me Lance? And he was apologetic. 315 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: I guess we're hard. We're hard to distinguish from each other. 316 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, but anyway, Hunter is going to be 317 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: on the show at five oh five to talk uh 318 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: bracketology as it relates to a few area college basketball programs. Also, 319 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: we're going to dive into the lawsuit between UC and 320 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby with our legal experts Stuart W. Penrose from 321 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: the Manila Law Group coming up in ten minutes. And 322 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: we're going to preview the Bonded Spirit Festival, which is 323 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: happening in Covington all across Covington starting today. But we 324 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: have folks who have been waiting, so let's talk to 325 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: them instead of hearing me babbel. Jim and Milford. You're 326 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Jim, good afternoon. How are you hey, Lance? 327 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: How you doing? 328 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm very well played. Thank you? 329 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 6: Excuse me, I got a check. 330 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: I've been called many, many, many, many worse things than that. 331 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 6: Wow, let's not go there. Let's get some stuff straight. 332 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 6: I'm an idiot, don't understand it. Well, that's your call. Lance, 333 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 6: i'll's stop with that. Joe I want to know from 334 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 6: the Bengals perspective, how how the Bengals would benefit trap 335 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 6: this whole tray thing. So let's let's use the example 336 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 6: that he's making thirty million dollars, so so we don't 337 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 6: tag him and he walks, so that frees up what 338 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 6: thirty million towards our cap? Is that is that the 339 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,479 Speaker 6: Bengals advantage? 340 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the money's already freed. It's it's not 341 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: like they're going to get an additional thirty mil because 342 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: the contract was already coming off the books. But I 343 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: think they view what they would have spent in tagging 344 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson for this year as money that's best spent 345 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: elsewhere and best spent maybe more evenly distributed across the roster. 346 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 6: Okay, let's slow down. So the other side of the 347 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 6: coin is they would have tagged him, but what so 348 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 6: the advantage to the Bengals would be like they tag 349 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 6: him but really didn't want to plane they So another 350 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 6: team would have to match the thirty million. 351 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, a team would have to agree to give the 352 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: Bengals the compensation they're looking for and then work out 353 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: a long term deal with with Trey. So you would 354 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: you would have needed the cooperation of Trey's representation to 355 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: get something done. And if other teams and if Tray 356 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: for that matter, know that you're tagging him with no 357 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: real intention of him playing for you, then you just 358 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: wait for the Bengals to resin the tag so you 359 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: could try to sign the guy without giving the Bengals 360 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: trade compensation. The disadvantage there is trade can then take 361 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: his pick among every team that's interested in signing him, 362 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: where he would not have that freedom had they tried 363 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: to tag and trade him. 364 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 6: So if we would attack them, and let's say I 365 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 6: heard today Chicago was interested in maybe a three year deal. 366 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 6: So if we would attacked him and Chicago is really interested, 367 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 6: we couldn't use that to our advantage to what gets 368 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 6: some players on defense or a tick and a draft. 369 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: More likely a pick in this year's draft. 370 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 6: Yes, then why would you let him walk if you're 371 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 6: in it at least get something out of the. 372 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: Deal, Because it possibly became abundantly clear to them that 373 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: teams were just going to be We're not going to 374 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: be interested in giving up more compensation than they would 375 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: have to give up if they just waited for Trey 376 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to eventually hit free agency, or maybe there was because 377 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: bad feelings have bubbled to the surface here between the 378 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Bengals and Tray that they were not going to be 379 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: able to get the cooperation from Trey's representation that they 380 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: were looking looking for him to work out a long 381 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: term deal with the Bears while the Bengals worked out 382 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: the trade compensation with the Bears. Like from Chicago's perspective, 383 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: it's like, can we get Trey Hendrickson on the open market? Cool, Well, 384 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: we can do that once the Bengals put him on 385 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: the open market, as opposed to giving the Bengals what 386 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: they're looking for, which is probably at least a third 387 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: round pick. 388 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 6: So if you're tagging, does does that mean we have 389 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 6: to play? 390 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: No, you could resend the tag now. If Trey decides, okay, 391 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: you've tagged me, I'm signing the franchise tag offer, then 392 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: you're stuck with him and whether it's right or wrong. 393 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: And we'll know this as the next year or two unfolds. 394 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: The Bengals a year ago the Bengals go ahead time out. 395 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 6: So he just said something like if he signs the 396 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 6: franchise tag, then does that mean we owe him thirty million? 397 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: That means he's under contract you for one year at 398 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more than thirty million bucks. Yes, whoa Okay, 399 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: and the Bengals. 400 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: I can see why they didn't want to tagging. 401 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't want to. 402 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody really believes that Trey would have 403 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: signed the franchise tag offer. There's I've not talked to 404 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: anybody who thought it was a distinct possibility that had 405 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals franchise tag tray, that he would just sign 406 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: the deal because he wants a multi year contract, and 407 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: a franchise tag would not have given him the multi 408 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: year contract. He wants the freedom to pick the team 409 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: that he's going to play for. He has sought that 410 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: for a while, so he's not going to sign the tag, 411 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: and then basically you're left with both sides staring at 412 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: each other until the Bengals designed or recin the tag, 413 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: releasing him to free agency, and then you get nothing 414 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: in return. 415 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 6: Okay. So to me, it's it's kind of like an 416 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 6: old used car, right, It's like, well, let's get something 417 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 6: out of it, right, Yes, It's like I don't want 418 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 6: some guy in a hand in the and he just 419 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 6: starts the car. And drives off and he gets it 420 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 6: for free. I would think, you know, well, at least 421 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 6: give me at least give me a nice to walk screwdriver, 422 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 6: you know, sure, a screw driver for the deal. 423 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 424 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 6: For me, it's just why would you let him walk 425 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 6: for not getting something out of him? But it sounds 426 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 6: like the contract lawyers just make it so difficult that 427 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 6: it's just like, okay, go ahead and walk right. 428 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Well, what I would what I would like to think 429 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: is that the Bengals used last week in Indianapolis to 430 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: gather intel to talk with teams and see if a 431 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: trade was a possibility. And I genuinely do believe if 432 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: they felt like we could legitimately pull off a trade 433 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: involving Trey Hendrickson where he goes and signs with the 434 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: team that we've decided to trade him to and we 435 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: get good compensation back, I believe they would have done that. 436 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: Why would they? Maybe I'm giving them the benefit of 437 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: the doubt that they don't deserve, but it certainly seems 438 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: plausible that after a week of talking with teams in India, 439 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: it became abundantly clear like a deal involving the compensation 440 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: they were looking for that they want to exceed. The 441 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: possible compensatory pick they would get next year was just 442 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: not in the works, and so it's time to move on, 443 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: and barring something totally unforeseen, Trey is going to move on. 444 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: The Bengals have never had plans for Trey Hendrickson to 445 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: be on the team in twenty twenty six. That's been 446 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: the one constant in this entire thing. It just feels like, 447 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: and again, maybe I'm giving them more credit than they deserve, 448 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: but this took into the last possible minute, right like 449 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: the deadline's four o'clock today. Today, it's come out they're 450 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: not planning on doing it. The fact that we're talking 451 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: about this today would suggest that last week they were 452 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: open to the idea of tagging him. Certainly neither Duke 453 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: or Zach dismissed the possibility last week, and a deal 454 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: that benefited them just wasn't there. And so in the 455 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: absence of a deal that benefited them just not being 456 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: there at four o'clock today comes and goes, and now 457 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson said to be a free agent, Bengals get 458 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: a compensatory pick, and they can essentially proceed with what 459 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: their plan originally was, which was for Tray to not 460 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: be a part of the franchise. What you can't help 461 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: but do, though, is go back to last year and 462 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: wonder what could they have gotten in a trade for 463 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: Trey a year ago when they were shopping him because 464 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: he asked for a deal. That's the thing for me, 465 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: it's you can't get a deal done now, Fine, that 466 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: makes sense, But given the fact that you had no 467 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: long term plans for him, couldn't you have gotten something 468 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: in return that not only could have benefited them now, 469 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: but could have benefited them this past season. That's what 470 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: we're always going to wonder. That's where I think the 471 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: criticism is fair. Not tagging him this week no big deal, 472 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: but it is completely understandable if you are looking at 473 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: what they didn't do with him last year as a 474 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: missed opportunity to get something better in return than what 475 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: they will get in a year by him becoming a 476 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: free agent. Is UC going to actually go to court 477 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: with their former quarterback? Our guy, our legal expert, Stewart W. 478 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: Penrose from the Manila Lag Group. 479 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic. 480 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 5: From the UC Health Traffic Center at the UC Gardner 481 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 5: Neuroscience Institute. 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Attorney Stuart W. 496 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Penrose joins us on Tuesday to answer usually my dumb 497 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: sports and legal questions. And I've got a few as 498 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: it relates to the lawsuit that you see is putting 499 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: forth against the former quarterback Brendan Sorosby Stewart. It's awesome 500 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: in the heavy was always a good afternoon. How are 501 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: you awesome to be on Mogan? 502 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. How about you? 503 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: I'm well. So Brendan Sorosby leaves the University of Cincinnati 504 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: to go to Texas Tech, where he is going to 505 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: make reportedly anywhere between four and six million dollars. Now 506 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: the school says, well, yeah, he's left, but he owes 507 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: us a million bucks because he's leaving his contract early 508 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: and it's basically a one million dollar buyout. So we're 509 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: taking him to court. I guess this is the sort 510 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: of thing that, in this day and age of college sports, 511 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: was almost inevitable at some point. But is this the 512 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: kind of case that's just going to get settled well 513 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: before it never reaches the courtroom. 514 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: You're right on both fronts, it was inevitable. I'm sure 515 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: we will see this again from different universities. I was 516 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: surprised it came directly from UC instead of nil collective. 517 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: I read the complaint and it came directly from UC. 518 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: I guess the way that they have it structured, so 519 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: that was very interesting to me. Yes, almost certainly this 520 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: will end in some sort of settlements. The players don't 521 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: want this, They don't want to be suited over this. 522 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: The schools don't want their names dragged through the mud 523 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: over it. It's not a great look for UC. But 524 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: I understand both sides of the coin here. They want 525 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: to hold you know, players to their commitments, you know, 526 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: including a damage's. 527 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: Clause that they have in there. 528 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 3: But at the same time, you don't want the bad press, 529 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 3: you know, amongsture cruits that you might want to bring, 530 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: you know, to bring in. Yes, this will ultimately most 531 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: certainly into the settlement. 532 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: If it were to drag on a very long. 533 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 3: The public gets a look under the hood, and you know, 534 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: how is this school how are these schools in ILDs 535 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: deals structured? 536 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: How does that go? U? 537 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: There are things that both sides would want to keep, 538 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: keep the hood clothes on moth, and. 539 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: I guess the way I look at this is like 540 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: the business model of college athletics is already flimsy, built 541 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: on a house of cards. If if now these contracts 542 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: that athletes sign with universities end up not being binding, 543 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: then what are we doing? 544 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question, and there's no there's no 545 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: direct answer to that, right now everything's so fragmented college 546 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: sports is cle mean, the first thing I thought when 547 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: I saw the sadline come out last week, my was, 548 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: my god, are we in an unhealthy place right now 549 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: with this? I mean, contracts are still contracts. They still 550 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 3: have to mean something, but they can be challenged and 551 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 3: you know, more often than not, they're going to end 552 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: in some sort of uh, you know, negotiated resolution. But 553 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: you know, something's got to give somewhere, and you know, 554 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 3: it's it's the ad state of affairs when we have 555 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: university suing players and and and vice versus which which 556 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 3: is what we're seeing all the time over eligibility or 557 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: an il contract, one thing or the other. 558 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: What is the foundation of Brendan Sorosby's defense. 559 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: Well that he gets sixty days from the time of 560 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: the lawsuit to file an answer, So we'll see. He 561 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: could argue that it violates anti trust laws. Uh, he 562 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: could argue that the liquidated damages contract is not enforceable, 563 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: or that you know, the you know, player portability is 564 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: in the best public interest. You know, We'll see what 565 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: his lawyers come out with in terms of in terms 566 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: of an argument with US. 567 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: Can I sue Brendan Sorosby for never throwing the ball 568 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: to Joe Royer, Or could Joe Royer sue Brendan Soorsby 569 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: for never throwing him the football? 570 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: The I could go on a tangent here the long 571 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: list of people I'd like to sue over the last 572 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: couple of years with this, but it's probably not a 573 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 3: good idea that I do that. Probably probably the youth 574 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: football and basketball ticket holder go. 575 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, my gribes likely will not hold up in court. 576 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: Attorney Steward W. Penrose from the Manila Law Group is 577 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: with this. I think you and I have talked about 578 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: sports prediction markets in the past, and uh, I like 579 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: sports wagering. The sports prediction markets make me feel icky. 580 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: This is apparently going to get to the Supreme Court, 581 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: where now they may decide on the basic future, the 582 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: basic existence at least in this country of sports prediction markets. 583 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: Where do we see this going? 584 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: Well, we don't know if it's going to get the 585 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: Supreme Court yet. 586 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 5: MO. 587 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: What we have are we have various, you know, somewhat 588 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 3: analogous cases in different federal courts across the country right 589 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: now where Kelsey is being challenged on different things. You know, 590 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: the crupt of it? Are you know, states are saying, hey, 591 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: this is sports gambling and all but name you know, 592 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: if it walks, talks and looks like sports gambling, it's 593 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 3: sports gambling and it should be subjects to our state laws. 594 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: And let's be honest. They want the type that they 595 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: want the revenue from it, and why wouldn't they So 596 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: that that's the crux of it here that they're they're challenging, 597 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: you know, should this be governed under state law or 598 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 3: do federal law? Preemphis. It's going to be really interesting 599 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: to see how these decisions come out. It may get 600 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: to the Supreme Court if we get decisions that contradict 601 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: each other, and that's really when you would see potential 602 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 3: Supreme Court involvement. But it's going to be really far 603 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 3: reaching because I mean, yes, you're looking at it the 604 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: blind eye, it doesn't look any different than sports scambling. 605 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 5: Uh. 606 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: And and it's a it's at a stay where you know, 607 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: depending upon how these decisions go down and if it 608 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: goes to the Supreme Court, are are prediction market's going 609 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: to go away completely or they can explode? And if 610 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: they explode, does does that mean that uh? Your draft kams, 611 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: your fan duels, your your your what have you for? Uh, 612 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: you know traditional sports vetting platforms do they do? They 613 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: then switch their business models to be a prediction market. 614 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: You know, we'll have to wait and see it. There's 615 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: just so many moving parts and it's going to be 616 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: really interesting to see how things come down. I will 617 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: say this, States and governments are going to want their 618 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: their revenue from it one way or the other. So 619 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: something's got to give in some way to accommodate that. 620 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: If if this wasn't because you could there were people 621 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: who were making money predicting whether we would bomb Iraq, 622 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: which I just I can't wrap my brain around. If Yeah, 623 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: if if this wasn't tied directly to sports, would this 624 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: face similar legal challenges? Would this face no legal challenges? 625 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: Would they be different legal challenges? How would this work? 626 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: Well, they're facing legal challenges and other aspects. Now I know, 627 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 3: for instance, they're not allowed to put prediction markets out 628 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 3: there on elections, and their challenge and Kelsey has directly 629 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: challenged that. We'll see how that comes out. So so, yes, 630 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: it's more than just sports. 631 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: It's weird and uh, that's the pot calling the kettle 632 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: black attorney Steward W. Penrose from the Middle of Law Group. 633 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time as always, We'll talk again next week. 634 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: Thank you moo. 635 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: That's our guy. Our legal expert attorney Stewart W. Penrose 636 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: from the Manillo Lawgroup. Go to Manilolawgroup dot com. We're 637 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna preview the Bonded Spirit Bluegrass Festival next Cincinnati's ESPN 638 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. 639 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 5: Traffic from the UCHealth Traffic Center at the Ucgardner Neuroscience Institute. 640 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: The Multiple Sclerosis Experts deliver personalized treatments, groundbreaking research, and 641 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 5: integrated support services. Learn more at UCHealth dot com. Southbound 642 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 5: seventy five at Freeman Avenue, left two lanes are blocked 643 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 5: from an accident. Police and emergency crews are over there 644 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 5: on scene. Eastbound two seventy five approaching the Combs Hail Bridge. 645 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 5: It's a disabled vehicle on the right shoulder. I'm at 646 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 5: ezelic with traffic. This report is sponsored to the third period. 647 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: Gave up four goals, let the Rangers tie the game, 648 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: and still wanted it over time, snapping at two game 649 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: losing streak. The Bonded Spirit Bluegrass Festival is happening right 650 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: now and runs all week clear through Saturday, live music 651 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: and bourbon all throughout Covington Live music in Bourbon. Those 652 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: are two things I like. And Covington which I also like, 653 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: and Smoke Justice, which is at the heart of it all. 654 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Richard Dickman from a Smoke Justice as well, I can't 655 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: believe us. I can't believe we got you in studio 656 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: given how busy you are. 657 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 4: You're right, but you know what, this is a special 658 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 4: day for me that I get to see you. 659 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: It is. It's special for you that you get to 660 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: see me. It is no question about it. What is 661 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: the Bonded Spirit Bluegrass Festival? 662 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: So it centers around the fact that Covington headed gentleman 663 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: who lived there. His name was John G. Carlisle, and 664 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 4: today is a special day. It's bottled in bond day 665 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: and he was the one that pushed it through. So 666 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 4: we celebrate that as part of Covington's Bourbon heritage. 667 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So this is like now through Saturday, 668 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: days and days and days of bourbon and bluegrass. That's right. 669 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: So it's basically three three sections. The first section is 670 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: our Cove Crawl, So it starts tonight and it goes tonight, 671 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 4: Tomorrow and Thursday, and each night we're in a different 672 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: entertainment district in Covington. Tonight's the Central Business District, which 673 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 4: is the Sea and Cove on the River, which is 674 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: the Robling Point district. That would be tomorrow, and then 675 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: on Thursday is the village of Mainstrasa and that's the 676 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 4: first segment of this. And then on Friday we have 677 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 4: the Community Concert, which is a free concert, four bands 678 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: in a tent, very large tent, and that is in 679 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: Robling Point right next to Smoke Justice. And those tickets 680 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 4: can be found at any Bline bar or restaurant. And 681 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 4: the last is Saturday. That's the main event. That is 682 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 4: a ticketed event. You need to go to Bondedspirit dot 683 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: com to get those tickets. We still have some available 684 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: and we have three awesome bands. We've got Bourbon Revival, 685 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 4: which just won Battle of the Bands down at Bourbon 686 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: and Beyond, and then we have Dan Taminsky, who's the 687 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: voice behind George Clooney in the movie Oh Brother, We're 688 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 4: Out Diyle and then the final band, the Steel Drivers, 689 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: Chris Stapleton's old band. We'll finish it off and we 690 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: all know what that's all about. So that the Saturday 691 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: is the ticketed event. That's correct, need a ticket for that. 692 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 4: Bonded Spirit dot Com. Correct, Friday is not a ticketed event. 693 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: Friday is a ticket event, but it's a free event. 694 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: If you buy Saturday's ticket, you get in free. It's 695 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 4: a bonus. But also there are tickets available at any 696 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: bline location. 697 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Rest on our are. 698 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: If you go on Bondedspirit dot com you'll see that 699 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: list and if they have any left, you go there, 700 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 4: you get them and they get you in free on 701 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 4: Friday night. 702 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: So the the two like centerpieces of this bluegrass music 703 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: and bourbon. That's correct. 704 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: Tell me about the bourbon. It's all about Kentucky, right. 705 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 4: So we have a great sponsor in New Reff who 706 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 4: was just. 707 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: Prized with. 708 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 4: The world's best bourbon and that is part of what 709 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 4: we're doing. That it's a bottled and bond product that 710 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 4: we're putting into our cocktail called the Bonded Spirit. Okay, 711 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 4: So again we are really celebrating the whole bottled and 712 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: bond act and Connington claims it is ours. So you know, 713 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: in the whole state of Kentucky, we're really the ones 714 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 4: that can capture it and take it in. Honestly, right 715 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: now we have the biggest botto and bond celebration in 716 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: the world, you. 717 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: Guys, do we in Covington, Kentucky, Kentucky. I think a 718 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: lot of folks would be surprised to hear that. 719 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know what, come down and find out 720 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 4: what it's all about. 721 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: All right, bitter history, explain the Bottled and Bond Act. 722 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 4: So, the Bottom and Bond Act was enacted in eighteen 723 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 4: ninety seven, and it was the first attempt well it 724 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 4: really wasn't an attempt. 725 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: They did it. 726 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 4: It was the first regulations set by the federal government 727 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 4: to protect us from all the bad things that could 728 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: go into a product that we wouldn't know was in it. So, 729 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 4: you know, of all the products that were being made, 730 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: they chose bourbon to be the first. So people were 731 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 4: more concerned about their bourbon and what was in it 732 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: than anything else. So you know, later on came the 733 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 4: FDA and everything else, but it was regulated. They put 734 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 4: these barrels in locked warehouses and the government watched over 735 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 4: them to make sure that they weren't tainted or anything 736 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 4: was going into them that shouldn't be going into them. 737 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: So that took place today. 738 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 4: That took place, so it was the act happened in 739 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 4: this day, March third, eighteen ninety seven. 740 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: Wow, been a history. 741 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 4: You learned something familiar, way smarter than you were before 742 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 4: I got here. 743 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: That doesn't take all that much, all right. So the 744 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: ticketed event Saturday tickets available now get it for Saturday. 745 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: You also get it on Friday. That's Bondedspirit dot com. 746 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: Anything else we need to know? Cheers? I love it, 747 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: have a good time. Yeah, most definitely Bondedspirit dot com. 748 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: The Bonded Spirit Bluegrass Festival is happening right now. It 749 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: goes through Saturday. The Saturday show is a ticketed event, 750 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: so get your tickets and learn more about the establishments involved, 751 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six lineup, and so much more. Go 752 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: to Bondedspirit dot com. That's Bondedspirit dot com. And don't 753 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: forget we will be broadcasting in twenty three days. I 754 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: wish we were broadcasting from the Bonded Spirit Bluegrass Festival. 755 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: We will be broadcasting from Smoke Justice on opening Day 756 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: from noon to three on March the twenty sixth, three 757 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: weeks from this coming Thursday, getting set for a big 758 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: college basketball night tonight. It's a big game for the 759 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: UC Bearcats and all of them the rest of the 760 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: way are and their chances may be remote. They may 761 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: be slightly better than remote. I'll say slightly better than remote. 762 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: But the bubble could burst if the Bearcats lose to 763 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: aj DEBONSA and BYU tonight. But they are playing with 764 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: at least a chance, maybe a small chance, but at 765 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: least the chance. We'll talk about the Bearcats and their 766 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament hopes. Miami plays their final home game tonight, 767 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: two to go to finish the regular season undefeated. What 768 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: about their possible at large chances those two and other 769 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: schools with our guy Hunter Sansum, the official bracketologist of 770 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: this show. Coming up at five oh five on ESPN 771 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. You know who's listening.