WEBVTT - 10-15-25 Sloan with Anna Albi 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.360 In American way to midweek, here we go Scott's flown 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:08.800 back on seven hundred w WELW. He called it intolerable. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.480 One of the latest, the longest list of adjectives I've 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.360 ever heard about crime in Cincinnati. The new one is intolerable. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.360 That would be your adjective of the day, is what 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:20.720 mayor have to Puerval called the violence downtown, the back 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.200 to back shootings on Fountain Square and says significant changes 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.840 are coming after all that. So we're going to see 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.280 swat on Fountain Square. We're going to see the Civil 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.760 Disturbance Response Team whatever that is, on Fountain Square, and 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.680 it's going to look like parts of Gaza. Chief Terry 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.640 Thiji is commanding her officers to make contact with people 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.280 for even the most minor offenses. That's called the broken 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.720 windows theory of policing, which is just absolutely as sailed 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.160 for years by progressives, is just punching down on people 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.559 and stopping them and causing distrust in the community. And now, 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.000 guess what turns out that strategy might work a little bit. Huh. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.320 But before the Mayor's Presser Council had a public safety 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.280 hearing yesterday, it was really hard to hear that, and 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.640 you could hear the frustration from residents. Listen, I am 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.959 not able to tell future tenants and they would be safe. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.240 I've been down the district to a couple times myself. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.560 I just don't feel like we're getting the results that 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.319 we need to make our tenants feel safe. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.520 It feels like something has shifted. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.720 Two of our best friends who live in the neighborhood 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:21.600 have decided to move. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.720 The violence has just gotten out of control. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.480 Honest and more is council member Anna, I'll be with 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.720 law in public safety. She sits on the committee and 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.920 sat through that difficult testimony yesterday, Anna, good morning, how 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.360 you been by? 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.319 Good morning? Thanks got having me. I appreciate it. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.600 Yeah. Well, your reaction when you're sitting there listening to 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.560 all these people say, look, I have his investment of property, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.640 and I'm a landlord who I feel him is imagine going, hey, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.480 I have people who won't rent because they afraid they're 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.440 going to get shot, or someone has said, hey, listen, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.080 my circle of friends, they're all moving out because they've 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.040 got small kids, or they just fear their safety. That 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.120 was some of the most telling testimony I think I've 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.680 heard in a long time, and it shows you how 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.000 far gone things are. What was your immediate reaction. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.639 Well, immediately in the moment, I made sure my staff 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.120 got all those folks compact information, and I was taking 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.320 diligent notes. You know, I take all of this very 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.760 very seriously. You know, public safety, making sure people feel 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.400 safe is my number one priority, and I know that shared. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.480 So I followed up afterwards with the city manager and 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.240 the police chief listing out the issues that we heard. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.160 I took notes on the exact location, so you know 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.000 we're going to take action here. I also spoke with 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.840 the assistant police chief yesterday about another issue that was 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.040 brought to my attention. So we're really taking action here 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.320 and using police based solutions to really dig into what's 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.280 happening in this specific spot to make sure that we 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.080 can everyone feels safe, feel safe in our safe right. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.639 It'stion plus reality. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.960 I'm hereath the Grapevines about Well, we heard this small 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.160 learning about Jeff Ruby's Lempica, which used to be the 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.320 main location in the Art deco restaurant on Seventh Street, 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.160 and they've now turned that into an event space. Actually, 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:09.400 I was at a wedding there a few months ago. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.160 And this absolutely spectaculars way over the top. It's so nice. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.919 They're closing that location and maybe a beef with the 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.840 landlord with Town Properties, which I get because there's some 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.880 safety issues like door if not being locked and things 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.880 like that, and so we don't feel safe and our 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.720 businesses compromise. So we're closing that up despite a huge 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.440 investment in that. Don't know what it's going to become 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.160 in the future, if anything, but that's a loss, and 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.000 they're moving their business operations to Wallut Street. But you know, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.400 behind these scenes, I guess they're hearing rumors that there's 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.280 maybe some threats there saying, hey, we if we got 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.560 gun you know, people shooting each other on Fountain Square 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.000 across from our beautiful flagship restaurant on Fountain Square. And 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.480 now we've had the shooting the other we had what 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.080 two shootings in the last few days on Fountain Square, 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.960 like right in front of Rubies. That's not a place 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.960 where people are gonna feel safe coming to. Our clientele's 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.720 not gonna be safe. We're gonna have to we're gonna 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.040 have to move. Losing that would send I think a 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.280 tutle wave of problems for those who sit on council 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.240 and those who seek to be re elected or elected 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.720 might be a good thing for them. But I don't 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.720 know if that's true or not, Anna, but that that's 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.600 really really telling there. If we have flagship restaurants, if 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.560 we have the culinary name in Cincinnati going, we can't 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.360 be in Cincinnati. You lost. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.560 So I can't comment on you know, the speaks of 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.840 landlords or any of that details. I know probably as 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.640 much as you reading in the press. But again, this 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:35.560 council and mayor and administration, we're truly taking action. You 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.560 heard yesterday from the slice chief and the mayor new 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:44.160 plans around Sountain Square, both from looking at transportation patterns 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.560 what we need to do to kind of spread out 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.279 the people and make sure that we have bet Are coverage, 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.320 also bringing in additional support from law enforcement. So that 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.240 is the work we're doing. I mean, I think what 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.120 was most shocking to me was the most recent an 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.040 incident and where it's the fact that we had four 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:06.800 officers there. Yep, right, and that's that's just shocking behavior. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.680 I think we all just have to name it that 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.320 that is insane. Right. However, many years ago, knowing that 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.040 four officers were a matter of yards away from you 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.839 would have been at a turrent. So you know this, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.719 this is a new level, and we are stepping up 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.880 to the plate to provide more resources, new resources, partnering 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.080 with the governor, partnering with the sheriff's office, doing all 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.520 of that work to really try to tackle what's happening. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.320 But isn't that an indication Anna that it's too far gone? 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.039 I mean that, you know, it's not like everyone's gonna 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.440 pull up stakes. But you know, all this action now, okay, great, 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.839 but if the bad guys aren't obeying law enforcement, there's 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.000 a cop standing right there, I'm gonna shoot at you anyway. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.440 All the adjectives, all the superlatives, all the patrols, all 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.279 the curfews. What you're saying is it hasn't done anything 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.960 to stop the violence. And that then tells me that 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.000 we moved that, that our leaders moved way too late 0:05:59.040 --> 0:05:59.400 on us. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.680 You know, here, here's what I would say. It would 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.120 be really helpful if we had support from the state 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.159 in terms of laws, because there are too many guns 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.720 on our street. And you know, I'm going to talk 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.080 about this all day. It is too easy to get 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.360 firearms legally and too we can get them easily illegally 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.200 as well. And so it'll be really great if Ohio 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.880 had some stronger gun laws or we could actually go 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.440 after getting somebod climb off the street harder. And you 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.160 know that's part of the work of the Crime Gun 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.719 Intelligence Center, and we partner with the APS, with local 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.800 law enslorcement, the Ohio State controls helping us with us like, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.520 there are too many guns, and I think we just 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.320 all need to acknowledge are too many guns on our streets. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.120 And that is why I'm really passionate about we need 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.800 stronger laws at the state level, hopefully at the federal 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.560 level that actually empower us to go get the firearms 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:48.840 pop of the handle games with people. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.440 Yeah, I let me push back on that. A couple 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.320 of points. Number one would be we have federal laws. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.880 The law says if you are a felon and you 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.400 you're carrying a gun, you've now escalated that you go 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.280 to prison. And yet we have judges, largely progressive judges 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.720 that see juveniles, that see people go, oh, you got 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.080 a gun. You're not supposed to have a gun. You 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.680 cut your ankle, bonder, Yeah, you're good, go ahead, It's fine, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.640 we'll catch it a later date. I mean, weep. You 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.680 keep calling for tougher laws, but you're not enforcing the 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.080 laws in the books. Why aren't we getting tougher with 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.360 people who are who end up getting jammed up with 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.120 a gun and they right out of a felony. That's 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.640 that's called having a gun to disability. And I'm sorry, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.800 but we have judges in Cincinnati that allow that. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.880 Hey, our judges are making sure that laws are performed 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.200 and executed. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.400 And are they're not, otherwise they wouldn't have this. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.080 Hey, agree to disagree on this one, right, That's that's fair. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.840 But you know, at the end of the day, I 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.160 think we have too many guns. I support the work 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.720 of our Crime Intelligence Center going after those because it is. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.760 It was shocking to me to watch the video in 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.520 the Prep Sumping District with the police chief and how 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.360 casually someone was able to just pull gun out, shoot 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.640 shoot at people and walk away. Right, That's that's horrifict 0:07:58.680 --> 0:07:59.480 We can all right. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.680 Because they know there's no consequences if I do that. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.040 Well, I mean, officers are on the scene pretty pretty quickly, right, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.720 So like it now, it's a matter of putting together 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.920 the case and going through with that and that again, 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.840 that is where we have to do off into the 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.720 job from the city perspective of putting together strong cases 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.440 so our judges have all the information. And frankly, we're 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.320 doing work to working with the judicial system on improving 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.080 our technology in the courtrooms making sure that information is 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.680 more readily available that we had that we were able 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.400 to provide all that case information. So here's the I'm 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.520 the only only to my family who's not a lawyer. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.760 My brother is actually a prosecutor in the Federal Office 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.160 and VC. But you know, these lawyers, you know, haveing 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.679 making sure the prosecutors have all the information that day 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.719 in front of them with technology, that is a big 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.199 challenge right now. So we are working the city puts 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.360 dollars together and there's a whole kind of task force 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.719 with our judges where we're making sure that we're empowering 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.720 our judges and our prosecutors and our officers with all 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.880 the technologies to make sure all that information is at 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.360 their fingertips. Decisions are being made off the. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.200 Court, but the problem is they're not. And you know, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.559 I don't think gun laws may do something in the future, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.559 probably not because I think the other element of two 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.040 analby is how are the people, especially juveniles, getting guns 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.800 so well they're breaking into cars? Well, why are people 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.640 live in guns and cars? Is because I think a 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.320 couple of things. Number one would be there's a lot 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.280 of places we are not allowed to carry by law, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.199 and so I say, hey, I don't feel safe in Cincinnati. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.200 If I come downtown, I'm gonna come with a gun, 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.400 come heavy and okay. If I got to go somewhere 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.200 to leave in my car, I think that's just a 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.080 It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. The more unsafe people feel, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.800 the more they feel they need to arm themselves. They 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.360 can't bring it in, so they're leaving the car, which 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.439 encourages people to break into cars and steal guns. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.040 You have talked about secure firearm storage in cars of force, 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.640 So I know, no, this is a place where we 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.480 can both agree in terms of making sure that you know, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.559 if a gun, if you're bringing it downtown, that's pure legal, right, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:50.560 let's have it locked up. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:50.800 Right. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.079 So we're doing a couple of things. One, we're increasing 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.520 our requirements when it comes to parking garages and parking 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.679 lots on what's needed in terms of better lighting, can landscaping, security, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.079 and then we're also going to have PtD go out 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.000 and provide a feeding system for all those garages. So 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.280 you as a responsible citizens driving downtown to say, oh, 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.040 because of an ADC or D, whatever the scale is, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.680 this is a safe place that's meeting the security requirements. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.079 This isn't right, So caret and a stick approach. But 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.280 in addition to that, I've been working with CPD and 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:24.079 we've started handing out gun space for cars. At the 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.560 last few home bangals games, that's the home most opener. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.320 We had over seventy seven people come up and grab 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.800 a gun law, and so that's the work I'm trying 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:33.040 to do it. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.280 As a gun owner myself, I like, okay, I think 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.120 you know, I hate more burden on people like myself 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.160 because the overwhelming majority, almost all the gunners are responsible people. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:42.840 You know, talk about the guns on the streets and 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.760 it's getting out there because responsible people are tired of 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.720 de policing and you know, the lax enforcement of our laws. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.600 I got all these laws that I have to buy 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.880 buy as a Second Amendment rights holder, but and it 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.840 doesn't feel like the criminal element cares about that they're 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.680 going to rob my stuff. It's that's the frustration. But 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.440 I agree. I think that if you're responsible gun, there's 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.600 gotta be something relative to making sure your gun when 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.840 it's stored safely, not just in a you know, a 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.520 console or a glove box or into the seat or 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.520 see something along those lines. It has to be in 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.800 a physical safe that that should be by rule. She's 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.240 council member and I'll be sits on law in public safety, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:20.200 hearing it from citizens yesterday in a meeting, people saying 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.280 what am I going to tell prospective tenants if they 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:23.840 ask if it are going to be safe downtown and 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.840 people moving out, and it is unraveling when you see 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.240 gunfire and consecutive and what three over the course of 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.040 a weekend. Basically we had two shootouts the other one 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.160 of the other night where someone who was sitting at 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:36.880 City Bird and someone pulls out a gun, fires a 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.200 couple of shots in the window. Still haven't caught the 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.880 guy yet, And I think we need to make examples 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.559 of these people. I really really do on that. One 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.559 of the problems is, as I understand it, as you 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.679 understand it too, isn't it like people getting off at 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.319 the metro station of Government Square, and then then that's 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:54.080 where the beats start. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.560 So I think it's lots of you know, people getting 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.920 off there and more of just how do we spread 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.120 out kind of the mass of people, if that makes sense. Right, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.520 We have a lot of people coming in at once. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.120 So that's part of the what the mayor is working 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.960 with sorta on is, hey, how do we kind of 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.480 distribute these bus routes a little bit more again, makes 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.480 it easier for us to have you know, coverage when 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.760 it comes to officers and all of that. So you know, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.160 I'm not I just want to be really clear, there 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.280 is no part of this so the saying that people 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.000 use our wonderful public transportation or criminals, that's not what 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.400 we're saying. But we're trying to use some place based 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.360 problem solving here, right, And if we're seeing, you know, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.520 kind of a cluster of issues happening around one space, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.839 how can we spread out the people the bodies right 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.079 to maybe just use some of the conflict because what 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.600 I'm under how I understand it is some of these 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.680 are starting as personal talk with right, Like people are 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.199 getting into fights and unfortunately they're armed and that's vacillating. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.720 That's that's what the last two we're talking about worst, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.200 you know, just stupid street beefs between people who knew 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:01.560 each other. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.439 Yeah, I mean, and that's where some of the reflections 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.240 I've been doing frankly, over the past day and a half, 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.000 it's been it's just been around, how do we, you know, 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.840 teach conflict resolution. I know that sounds maybe very but 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.440 you know, how do we help people, even starting in 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.440 our schools, And these are conversations I've had with our 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.400 school boards start kind of teaching conflict drives. We have 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.160 a young age, so people can learn how that's turned 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.320 down the temperature, sure, because it's just it's just you know, 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:32.320 too easy. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.319 Well yeah, that's true of all of us. But that 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.240 doesn't fix the now we have. You know, we have 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.000 adults acting like toddlers and they have guns, and that's 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.000 the unfortunate part. My point is, and maybe something that 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.680 should be explored is I'll be honest with you, I 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.720 and when I talk to cops and others saying, you know, Metro, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.000 it's like this funnel and not you're certainly not everyone 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.040 who's ride the Metro that most people are just trying 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.880 to get from point A to point being live their lives. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.280 But you've got criminal elements on there kind of looking 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.000 for trouble. We've heard horror stories about metrobus drivers getting 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.400 shot and everything else. And it largely centers around Metro 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.120 the Government Square station, and it's such a critical area 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.679 to our infrastructure that's now spilling over to Fountain Square itself. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.720 You know, we have the Fort Washington away underground garage. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.560 It's not going used. And I know the cry was, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.800 well it's too far from Fountain Square. You know what 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.280 you need. I'm sorry, But if for me I've closed 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.640 that Government Square metro station, I'd make it a stop. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.080 I'd move everything to Fort Washington a way. You have 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.520 an entrance and egress points. You can monitor that with cameras, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.120 you could have gunspotder technology, face technology. You have a 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.640 confined area that you can easily police and shut it 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.800 down if you have to, and you can control who's 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.200 coming in and coming out. More importantly, keep an eye 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.520 on people and lock it down if you have to. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.720 To get a bad guy with a gun and then run, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.840 I don't know, run a shuttle or a bus that 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.200 looks like a trolley to Fountain Square to get people there. 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.480 It just seems to me like you got to get 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.120 that Metro station at Government Square is a problem. I 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:54.600 think we got to shut that down and move it. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.520 I think everything worth discussing for now. It's the kind 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.760 of changing up the route to disperse that kind of 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.400 cluster Government Square. So you know, that is a step 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.360 in the right direction. Again, I want to make sure 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.560 that in this conversation we're not dehumanizing people run the 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.920 ride the bus because you know, personally, I feel very 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.400 passionately that we have a working public transit and infrastructure 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.400 because it's important right how most people are just getting 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.480 to their jobs, and it's also how in some of 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.120 our kids are getting to schools, people getting to you 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:24.920 know whatever fun. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.600 Well, they don't deserve all this. That's the point. You're 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.160 trying to protect them. We're trying to protect them by saying, hey, listen, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.200 we'll just run a We'll run a shuttle to Fountain 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.400 Square for those people got another bus to Fountain Square. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:37.400 It doesn't seem that hard. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:42.320 Yeah, again, I'm open to all these conversations with Metro. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.840 You know, they they are the experts on their bus routes. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.440 But for now that we are working collaboratively with them 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.560 on this kind of first step to this. First those 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.000 bus routes try to spread out the crowds to your 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.520 point of like what we have too many people kind 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.760 of concentrate on one spot and just one of those 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.800 people has to be up to no goods to cause 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.880 safe issues for everyone. And I think that also comes 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.720 with frankly, you know, for officers who are down there. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.480 You heard from the Chief yesterday talking through art Wet 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.240 we got to be alert, right, We've got to have 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.760 our eyes out open for what could be happening. And 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.680 that's to where you know, we have community advocates who 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.800 are down there and you know, learning simple kind of 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.760 this is what a body language triggers of like oh 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.040 that could be turning into a fight. Being much more 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.320 aware and picking up on that faster. And that's what 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.080 I heard from the chief right yesterday and her remarks 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.680 with the press conference is Okay, we a CPD are 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.400 going to step up here. We're going to be watching 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.720 out for that a lot more, and you know, again 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.920 using our complex resition be escalation skills to make sure 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.560 those personal fights are not turning into gunfire. That's ultimately 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:44.080 where we got it. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.800 I'll be honest with you. I mean, we can teach 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.160 it in the schools and all that stuff, but I'm sorry, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.600 there's a there's a percentage of the population that are 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.240 freaking animals. What we saw yes to what we we're 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:57.720 talking about. He is animalistic, predatory, sociopathic behavior. There's people 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.840 out there that are worth saving, but there's some that aren't, 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:01.360 and we've got to come to terms of that and 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.920 segregate them for society because all this, we've got to 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.680 change them and thick that might happen in another generation 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.680 or two maybe, but probably not. But we've got to 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.760 addressed to here and now. The people that are shooting 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.040 on Fountain Square. I'man a guest that the guy who 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.520 fired the shots at City Bird probably shouldn't had that 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.800 gun in the first place, and I would I question 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.480 the need for more laws if we don't take those 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.800 people off the streets the minute they use a gun 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.000 and commission of a crime. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.360 You and I have no disagreement on people who shouldn't 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.320 have guns. It should and shouldn't have guns, right If 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.679 someone's going to be using a firearm that lately for 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.360 criminal activity, should not have a gun. And that's again 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.200 why I go back to it would be really great 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.160 if we actually had background check on every single gun 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.119 sale beyond just the certified sellers, but you know Facebook, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.159 gun sales, things out of people's trunks all that, so 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.480 we could actually be able to have, you know, a 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.720 way to enforce, hey, you are a bad guy. You 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.080 should not have a gun. Right And then in terms 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.840 of they hear now, that is why we are pulling 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:02.919 out all the stops, in terms of our local CPD 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.560 working on patrol, bringing reinforcements from Ohio State Patrol right 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.360 to really be out there in the community, watching out 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.400 for these instances and hopefully intervening before they accalate. 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.880 Let me and I've got just a second here, and 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.240 I appreciate it. Back on that in the Highway patrol, 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.560 that's a really good point is from what we heard 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.720 is is you know, the governor reached out some time 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.480 ago and we're still waiting for Okay, I guess the 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.240