Speaker 1: It's Mojo. In the morning, we're gonna talk about Anna
Speaker 1: and meeting somebody that wanted you to be part of
Speaker 1: what an open relationship? Is that right? I think? How
Speaker 1: did this come about?
Speaker 2: I was outside this weekend and on Friday I met
Speaker 2: a man organically.
Speaker 1: We were out at a bar.
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't someone sliding into my DMS. This was
Speaker 2: like real life, and we kind of hit it off,
Speaker 2: like we were talking all night.
Speaker 1: I liked him a lot.
Speaker 2: He was very cute, successful, and we exchanged numbers. And
Speaker 2: then Saturday afternoon we were talking on the phone and
Speaker 2: he says, all right, like before I officially take you
Speaker 2: out on a date, like I have to tell you something.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh gosh, here it comes. And he tells
Speaker 2: me that he is in an open relationship and he
Speaker 2: has a partner, a female and a daughter with her,
Speaker 2: and he just wanted to make sure I was okay
Speaker 2: with that, which I'm not okay with. But I did
Speaker 2: some digging because I was like, this is interesting to me,
Speaker 2: like I don't hear about these things a lot. And
Speaker 2: I find out that this is more of like a
Speaker 2: Nick Cannon situation where she does not his partner does
Speaker 2: not date anyone else, but he is allowed to date
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, go out with other women. And
Speaker 2: she's fine with it, Like he was telling me, if
Speaker 2: it will.
Speaker 1: Is she really? He said, so that's.
Speaker 2: What I said. I was like, there's no way she's
Speaker 2: cool with it, and he said that listen, like we
Speaker 2: can all three go out if you want to meet her.
Speaker 2: You can go out and get coffee with her, Like
Speaker 2: she is totally okay with this, and I would love
Speaker 2: for you to meet her.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it. No, you gotta do it just
Speaker 1: to talk to you exactly, just to get her perspective.
Speaker 1: You have to set up for the coffee.
Speaker 2: She's already not interested, Like I not do it because
Speaker 2: she's interested.
Speaker 1: Do it? You can sit out and talk to this
Speaker 1: a woman and understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then he told me all about her, like
Speaker 2: this woman seems like a badass, like also super successful,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, why is she okay with this?
Speaker 2: And he's like, she she's comfortable with me providing for
Speaker 2: her and like we love each other, but I just
Speaker 2: know that I need more than one person. And he's like,
Speaker 2: she's even open to me having children with other women.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I know this. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 1: a thing. We've talked about it before. I always have
Speaker 1: heard people in those kind of relationships it's kind of
Speaker 1: like we can bring them in, but they've got to
Speaker 1: bring him into the relationship for each other. And then
Speaker 1: I've also heard people that say the like the whole
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon thing where you have multiple kids with multiple people.
Speaker 1: I've not heard many women that would put up with that.
Speaker 1: Is I once it comes, once it goes to financial
Speaker 1: potentially me you supporting a child that's not your child.
Speaker 1: I would think that most women would say quality time.
Speaker 1: You think your kid's not going to get the attention that.
Speaker 2: They deserve well, and you exactly like I That's what
Speaker 2: I told him. I just know that I need all
Speaker 2: the at I want to be the priority and like
Speaker 2: our family. But he's still very persistent. Even after I
Speaker 2: told him like I don't think I could do that,
Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, do you mind if we just like
Speaker 2: talk and build a friendship and see where it goes.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's two things I have on this one.
Speaker 1: Number one, is this really his setup or is he
Speaker 1: a married guy flirting with a girl at a bar
Speaker 1: saying if you look me on social media, you might
Speaker 1: see another person. I'm gonna try to explain that he
Speaker 1: wants them to talk. Well, let's truly see if he
Speaker 1: really wants them to talk. If you say, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: talk to her, call her right now. The second thing
Speaker 1: is what kind of self esteem does a woman have
Speaker 1: knowing that she is not the one, she's one of the.
Speaker 2: Ones because she's fine with it, Like you, can.
Speaker 1: You think that's a high self esteem or low self
Speaker 1: confident woman, or like you should go ahead. I think
Speaker 1: that's somebody that's I don't know. I would I would
Speaker 1: say the opposite. Okay, interesting, but let's talk to her.
Speaker 1: Let's call he got his number, let's call him up.
Speaker 1: I'd love to have these people call up. I think
Speaker 1: you got to go to lunchto or coffee or whatever.
Speaker 2: I am just interested in the dynamic, Like this is
Speaker 2: very interesting to me.
Speaker 1: Read of meataglasses. Yeah, hey, Derek.
Speaker 3: Was doing this because he was actually trying to get Derek.
Speaker 1: Let me let me first intro you. Let me let
Speaker 1: me first say hello to you. Derek. What's going on?
Speaker 1: What's your comments on this?
Speaker 3: So my comment on that is like, honestly, like I
Speaker 3: was approaching stuff like that in Houston. And it was
Speaker 3: really weird because what it was an older man came
Speaker 3: to me in a bar and pointed out a younger
Speaker 3: female like she was like really his younger and then
Speaker 3: he was trying to get me to go out with her.
Speaker 1: And then I found out they were married. So wait,
Speaker 1: the guy came to you Like that would weird me
Speaker 1: out if all of a sudden some guy comes to me.
Speaker 1: I guarantee he has a chair.
Speaker 3: He just started like talking about this chicken like in
Speaker 3: the corner like that, Like I'm new to Houston. I
Speaker 3: was like twenty four to twenty five years old. I was, ayah,
Speaker 3: she's gorgeous. I'm down there. I'm seeing one in big
Speaker 3: city and everything like that, and like he just kept
Speaker 3: on talking about that check and I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, there's more girls like this, Rodney,
Speaker 3: I might have a fun time in Houston, you know.
Speaker 3: And he goes, well, that's actually wife and you know
Speaker 3: she's actually looking to go out on a date with
Speaker 3: you and everything like that cause she saw you walk in.
Speaker 1: Man. Oh man, that's what happened. I'd get nerve, I'd
Speaker 1: get booby stomach.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought it was a joke. At first,
Speaker 3: I thought, oh damn, I walked into a swinger bar
Speaker 3: or something like that, because I, like, you know, New
Speaker 3: Big City.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: And uh, at first I was like kind of weird
Speaker 3: it out. But I actually did go on the date
Speaker 3: with her. Wow, and uh, actually really cool, really great.
Speaker 3: But at that time of my life I was wanting more,
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to have like a wife and kids.
Speaker 1: I've never been buried.
Speaker 3: I wanted the white and kids like that. After I
Speaker 3: went on a date with her, I said, you know,
Speaker 3: this is really cool and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I was like, but I don't think I could do
Speaker 1: it either. So you went on a date with her? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. Wow. How far did he get? Did leave
Speaker 1: with each other?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did he check in during the date, like while you
Speaker 1: guys were together.
Speaker 3: Well, he might have checked in with her because like
Speaker 3: she would looking at her bone and here and there
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Boy he was he was an
Speaker 3: older guy and she.
Speaker 1: Was a younger woman.
Speaker 3: And then what it was that I guess he couldn't
Speaker 3: provide for her in some ways that he wanted.
Speaker 1: What way are we talking? Yes, listen, I don't think
Speaker 1: I provide in ways like that for Chelsea. But I
Speaker 1: let me some other dude go in there. That's craziness,
Speaker 1: what a what a story, Derek weird it now?
Speaker 3: And I ended up leaving the lower But I mean.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine this at time? Oh my god, Joe's
Speaker 1: in an open relationship? Are you a male or female? Joe?
Speaker 4: I'm female and very queer.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so Joe, you open your How open are
Speaker 1: you and your relationship?
Speaker 4: So I'm in a committed relationship. I have a fiance.
Speaker 4: We each have two biological children. We have lived together
Speaker 4: for a couple of years, raising our family together, and
Speaker 4: we have an open relationship and we give each other.
Speaker 5: Freedom to to go and to do those things.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's not it's not a self esteem issue.
Speaker 4: If anything, it's it's really more of I respect myself
Speaker 4: and yourself so much to go out and have your
Speaker 4: own freedom, and we trust communication and honesty. And you know,
Speaker 4: you can have a love of your life, but you
Speaker 4: might have more than one, or you might just have fun.
Speaker 1: And it's nice to how many people can you actually love?
Speaker 1: I want to know, Joe.
Speaker 4: I think that it could be whatever is right for
Speaker 4: you and as many kinds of.
Speaker 1: Love and how do you choose who you're going to
Speaker 1: stay with that night?
Speaker 4: So I have there's any forms of polyamory, open relationships,
Speaker 4: and everybody does it in a different way. There's names
Speaker 4: for them in terms from the polyamorous community is actually
Speaker 4: really huge in Metro Detroit. My form of polyamory is
Speaker 4: that I have my primary relationship with my family and
Speaker 4: then uh, I'm allowed to see other partners. My fiancee
Speaker 4: can see other partners and we just kind of seed
Speaker 4: from there and talk about it. If we meet somebody.
Speaker 1: And do you have children?
Speaker 4: You know, so the one the one you're yep, so
Speaker 4: we have we don't have shared children together. My partner
Speaker 4: is actually a transman, so we're both you know, we
Speaker 4: have our own biological children them as a family. And
Speaker 4: so there's actually a name, so when you're willing to
Speaker 4: meet the other person's partner, it's called kitchen table Polly,
Speaker 4: and it just means that you know, yes, we date separately,
Speaker 4: but you're welcome to know the other people in my life.
Speaker 1: Real quick job. Do the kids find it to be
Speaker 1: a thing that's confusing or no?
Speaker 5: So for us, our children can meet people that we're seeing,
Speaker 5: but we don't actively PDA in front of the children.
Speaker 5: So it's just here's a person that comes over, and
Speaker 5: this and that and which.
Speaker 1: In the so they never see you guys. Are they
Speaker 1: never see you guys physically touching.
Speaker 4: The intimate with other people.
Speaker 1: That's just what works for us.
Speaker 4: But there are plenty of people out there who actively
Speaker 4: do allow their children to see that their parents are
Speaker 4: in an open relationship. And part of that is you
Speaker 4: don't teaching them. You know that this is okay. There's
Speaker 4: so many forms of relationships, but it's not I'm not Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got a quick question. Is there a way you
Speaker 1: can get all of them to be a Mojo in
Speaker 1: the morning listener? Like we need more listeners. I like
Speaker 1: the people in these relationships. Having all these people that
Speaker 1: are there you could actually be a benefit to us.
Speaker 1: Can you get them all to listen to the podcast
Speaker 1: today with you on there?
Speaker 5: I'll miss it.
Speaker 4: I'll message some people and I'm actually called in about
Speaker 4: being in an open relationship before.
Speaker 5: And I think people.
Speaker 4: Need to know that it's just it is good, a
Speaker 4: preferred thing. And so myself and my fiance we came
Speaker 4: from fifteen year monogamous marriages that didn't work out, and
Speaker 4: sometimes you know, when you live your life committing to
Speaker 4: this one person, when you come out of that, you're like, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm a multifaceted person and that didn't work for me.
Speaker 4: That's just.
Speaker 1: I feel I think Chelsea would be okay with it too.
Speaker 1: I don't think she would want to take part, but
Speaker 1: I think she'd be okay with it. Anybody that you
Speaker 1: know had to put up with me. Joe, please get
Speaker 1: them all to listen.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you letting me to the side of the
Speaker 4: other half.
Speaker 2: Thank you for educate.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Thank you, Joe. Hold On ninety day fiance
Speaker 1: Dana ninety day Dana's on with us right now? You
Speaker 1: had something? Would not? You know Chelsea too well? Dana? Uh,
Speaker 1: what is your thing for Anna? What do you want
Speaker 1: to say, Donna?
Speaker 4: I'm just I would really like for Anna, just out
Speaker 4: of curiosity.
Speaker 3: Let's let's do this date man and then and then
Speaker 3: report back to us, like maybe Thursday or Friday.
Speaker 1: Second date, second date? You got a deadline? Should I okay?
Speaker 2: Let's just say if I do go through with this,
Speaker 2: do you think I should just meet up with the
Speaker 2: girl or should I bring him with?
Speaker 1: Because he said he could do the girl. Why I
Speaker 1: said both both the girl. I feel like I'm a sister.
Speaker 2: Wife at that point, like just out with my man
Speaker 2: and his woman and me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love it. I love it. It's
Speaker 1: the second day, second date. Second all right, take care
Speaker 1: of yourself,