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Speaker 2: and yet agonizing. More on that in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: on The Bearcat game yesterday followed to a degree a

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Speaker 2: There's execution problems. They didn't defend well yesterday. They certainly

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Speaker 2: Green Bay to beat Chicago during the regular season. These

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Speaker 2: are two coaches who don't like each other, and I'm

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Speaker 2: here for it. I think the handshake, for the most part,

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Speaker 2: is performative in college basketball. Whenever there's an issue between

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Speaker 2: two teams, often it's in the handshake line. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: in college basketball that says you have to shake hands

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Speaker 2: with the opposing coach. Nothing in the college basketball rule

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Speaker 2: book that says the two teams have to shake hands

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Speaker 2: with each other. It's performative. In ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 2: the time, nothing bad happens, But sometimes bad things do

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Speaker 2: happen in the handshake line. And that's when people like

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Speaker 2: me go, oh, do we have to do this? In

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Speaker 2: the NFL, there's no rule that says you have to

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Speaker 2: shake coaches or shake hands with the other coach, but

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Speaker 2: they did. I guess if you were looking for, like, well,

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Speaker 2: at the very least touch hands with the other guy.

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson did that. I am completely and totally here

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Speaker 2: for two guys who don't like each other pretty much

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Speaker 2: showing each other that they don't like each other. Like

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Speaker 2: we build up rivalry and we build up, you know,

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Speaker 2: distaste and hatred that one organization has for the other.

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Speaker 2: Here it's legitimate. I used to say this ten years

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Speaker 2: ago at the height of like the Bengals and Steelers

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Speaker 2: hating each other, and you had like Steelers players were

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Speaker 2: sending tweets to Vontes Perfect and I'm like, dude, this

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Speaker 2: is it. This is what I want. Like we as

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Speaker 2: sports fans, we want these guys to dislike each other.

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleura dislike each other. Why should

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Speaker 2: they do something that's totally performative, like if they genuinely

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Speaker 2: dislike each other. Now, there are NFL head coaches who

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Speaker 2: do like each other, where there's you know, there's commonality.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they've worked with each other, maybe one has worked

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Speaker 2: for the other, maybe they're just buddies, maybe they played

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Speaker 2: with each other. When you don't have that and instead

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Speaker 2: it's two guys who genuinely dislike each other. I don't

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Speaker 2: need some sort of pretend show of sportsmanship that's not

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Speaker 2: at all authentic or genuine. And that's what that would be.

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Speaker 2: If he did anything but just blow past the dude,

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Speaker 2: that would be performative, doing something that doesn't matter. Instead,

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Speaker 2: show me how you really feel about the guy. And

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Speaker 2: the coach of the Bears did that with the coach

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Speaker 2: of the Packers, Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur. Love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm here for it, absolutely here for it. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I would be willing to bet that if you asked

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Speaker 2: most NFL head coaches, if you had your way and

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Speaker 2: you could get away with it, and by get away

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Speaker 2: with it me not be asked questions about it. Would

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Speaker 2: you want to shake hands with the coach on the

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Speaker 2: other team or just do what Belichick did at the

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Speaker 2: end of that one Super Bowl and just walk off

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Speaker 2: the field. Most would say walk off the field. I

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Speaker 2: think even better though than an on handshake is what

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Speaker 2: you got from those two guys. Love it, but no

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Speaker 2: shortage of sportsmanship lessons on social media as a result.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen away from four o'clock. So a National League Central

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Speaker 2: team is trying to get better, and I think they have.

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Speaker 2: It's not the Reds. We'll discuss next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 7: a two to three minute delay at the moment at

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Speaker 7: Eazelic with traffic.

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Speaker 2: This report Asia so our first Monday not together since

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Speaker 2: uh well Tony always misses the first show of the year,

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Speaker 2: and then he missed the one week when he got fired.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, it's true. Unfortunately righted that wrong.

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Speaker 2: But I've spent sixteen of the last eighteen Mondays with

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Speaker 2: Tony and so to not be a twin peaks. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's a bummer. You can blame the Bengals. By the way,

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Speaker 2: in sports headlines, excuse me one story that I did

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Speaker 2: not mention. Reading here from Scott Springer of the Cincinnati Inquired,

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Speaker 2: the University of Cincinnati has hired Nate Woody. Nate Woody

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Speaker 2: is going to be Cincinnati's new defensive coordinator. He has

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Speaker 2: been Army's defensive coordinator since twenty twenty. The Black Knights

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Speaker 2: this season were seven and six and won their Bowl

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Speaker 2: game over Connecticut. Army led the nation and total defense

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Speaker 2: two years ago, with the leading red zone defense and

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Speaker 2: number four scoring defense during a twelve win campaign back

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Speaker 2: in twenty four. Reading this from Scott's Peace, So, Nate

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Speaker 2: Woody replaces Tyson Vite as the new defensive coordinator at

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Speaker 2: the University of Cincinnati. Let's see, let's take some phone calls.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Before we discuss what the Reds haven't haven't done

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Speaker 2: this offseason? And what other teams in the National League

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Speaker 2: Central are doing. Let's see here if I can get

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Speaker 2: the mouse to work. Jim and Milford. You're on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Jim, good afternoon. How are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm okay in our post holiday depression cut out man.

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Speaker 5: You know, January February. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: It's tough. These these are the dog days. Yeah, these

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Speaker 2: are the dog days.

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Speaker 5: Weather it's not bad. I mean, I'll take fifty fifty works.

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Speaker 2: Fifty works, and you know, I think I think we're

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Speaker 2: closing in Jim. As you know, I get off work

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Speaker 2: at six o'clock, so during the like absolute worst of winter,

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Speaker 2: I drive home in the darkness, I think, and I'll

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Speaker 2: see this today at six o'clock. I think we're getting

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Speaker 2: to the point, we're maybe not quite there yet. When

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Speaker 2: I get in the car at like five after six,

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Speaker 2: maybe traces of daylight, which tells me spring will be

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Speaker 2: here soon.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think on December twenty first, that's the lowest

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Speaker 5: point that the sun is in the sky. So it's

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Speaker 5: been it's been rising. Yes, I don't want to make

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Speaker 5: this end too. A science class.

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Speaker 2: Probably more interesting than anything I have to say. But

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: This is true? Well, you know, I'm pretty much disliked

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Speaker 5: on sinenty three sixties, so I thought i'd call in nice.

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Speaker 2: Why do those guys dislike you, Jim?

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Speaker 5: Because I'm a goof? Because I lay really stupid talkbacks? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I actually have a fan base out there. People call

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Speaker 5: on talkbacks and go ooh, jumy moover they like they

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Speaker 5: totally like just me and me or whatever you want

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Speaker 5: to talk about.

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Speaker 2: So well, imitation is the greatest form of flattery, and

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Speaker 2: it would be hypocritical, And it would be very hypocritical, Jim,

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Speaker 2: for me to dislike anybody who's a goof. So uh,

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Speaker 2: you are welcome here anytime you'd like to come in.

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Speaker 5: There you go. And that's not why I called. The

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Speaker 5: reason I called. I thought about this a couple of

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Speaker 5: weeks ago. Have you noticed that Jamar Chase doesn't run

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Speaker 5: his mouth like he did in twenty twenty, twenty one,

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Speaker 5: twenty two, But dude, he said run his mouth all

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Speaker 5: the time every weekend about the opposing team and their defense.

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Speaker 5: So my question is he seems really chill and press

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Speaker 5: conferences and he doesn't run his mouth anymore. And the

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Speaker 5: reason I called in is because you were talking about,

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Speaker 5: you know, the handshake, and you'd like to see it

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Speaker 5: a little bit more. What's the word like aggressive behavior

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Speaker 5: towards your opponent, opponent and stuff. So my question is,

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Speaker 5: why do you think Jamar Chase has been so chill lately?

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Speaker 2: Well, he did get suspended this year for spinning on

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Speaker 2: an opponent, so chill is a relative term.

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Speaker 4: True, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. If it's maturity, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. If it's the fact that he hasn't been

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Speaker 2: playing on, you know, very good teams the last few years,

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I I have noticed that,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think Chad. I don't think Jamar's ever

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Speaker 2: been like a trash talker on the level of let's

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Speaker 2: say Chad Johnson, where it felt like for years during

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Speaker 2: peak Chad. You know, every single week we're bringing out

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Speaker 2: the list of cornerbacks who can cover him. He's mailing

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Speaker 2: pepto business. I mean, we've never gotten to that point.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think Jamar, for a guy who does

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Speaker 2: speak regularly with the media, he has toned that down

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Speaker 2: and again, I don't know why doesn't bother me when

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Speaker 2: he talks trash. Doesn't bother me that he doesn't. But

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Speaker 2: I have noticed it. I don't necessarily know that I

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Speaker 2: can pinpoint an exact reason for it, though.

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Speaker 5: Don't you think Chad was doing that as a Hollywood act?

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Speaker 5: No question he was. He was definitely wanting like national attention,

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Speaker 5: no promotion, atension off the football field. He wanted to

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Speaker 5: like didn't he end up getting a couple of TV

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Speaker 5: shows and stuff like that. He was doing all that

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Speaker 5: for shock value and he got what he wanted. He

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Speaker 5: got popularity out off the football field. But Jamar I

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Speaker 5: used to sit there in like twenty one twenty two,

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Speaker 5: and I used to sit there and hear like on

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Speaker 5: your station like Jamar said this, And I'm sitting in

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Speaker 5: my car going Jamar, just shut your mouth, man, all

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Speaker 5: you're doing is firing up the other team.

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Speaker 2: Just shut up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And he has he has lately so interesting.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, aside from the Jalen Ramsey incident, we

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Speaker 2: have not talked about anything besides Jamar Chase's play and

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Speaker 2: his contract for the last couple of years.

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Speaker 5: Don't you think the Jaalen saying I truly believe Jalen

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Speaker 5: said something that was like so offensive even among people.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm trying to dance around this. I think

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Speaker 5: Jalen said. I think you just won't say.

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Speaker 2: I think Jalen Ramsey probably said something to provoke Jamar Jase,

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Speaker 2: and that may not excuse what he did. I absolutely

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Speaker 2: do not believe that Jamar decided to just randomly spit

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Speaker 2: on the guy. I think he was provoked. Now again,

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Speaker 2: I think spinning on somebody is pretty much the lowest,

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Speaker 2: the lowest thing you could do to another guy. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, if.

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Speaker 5: You're provoked, knowing, knowing, if he says nothing about his

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Speaker 5: mom or his culture, I don't know, dancing around words,

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Speaker 5: but I don't.

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Speaker 2: Don't I don't know what he said. What's amazing to

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Speaker 2: me is with so many mics and NFL films, you know,

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Speaker 2: doing what they do with every NFL game, that that

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Speaker 2: hasn't come out. And I don't want to relitigate something

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Speaker 2: from two months ago. But yeah, I mean, I I

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Speaker 2: know what I know about Jalen Ramsey, and I know

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Speaker 2: he is a trash talker. And look, he once made

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Speaker 2: the most mild mannered receiver of all time. Aj Green

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Speaker 2: get into a fight. So my guess is when Jamar

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Speaker 2: did what he did, he was provoked and may not

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Speaker 2: excuse the spitting itself, But I refuse to believe that

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Speaker 2: that Jamar just decided I'm gonna go ahead and randomly

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Speaker 2: spit on this dude.

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Speaker 5: Do you think officials have the uh? Do they have

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Speaker 5: the authority and give someone I ejected from the game

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Speaker 5: if they overhear something that's completely out of mound.

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Speaker 2: You can throw a flag, yes, which is not something

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Speaker 2: you see all that much of anymore. But a few

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Speaker 2: years ago, the NFL allowed the official to throw flags

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Speaker 2: based on language used from you know, one player to another.

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Speaker 5: Right, I don't know. Back to my core message, I guess.

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Speaker 5: I guess Jamar has matured in this leg and doesn't

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Speaker 5: feel like he needs to call out cornerbacks and safeties

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Speaker 5: on the other team like he used to. So I

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Speaker 5: think I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's been Jim, thanks very much. There's Jamar

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Speaker 2: was quiet this year. I can't recall, uh, with the

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Speaker 2: exception of the spitting incident, which was a big deal

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Speaker 2: because Jamar missed a game, I can't recall anything that

647
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Speaker 2: Jamar Chay said this year that generated any conversation on

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Speaker 2: our show, or that moved the meter, or that angered people,

649
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Speaker 2: or that provided bulletin board material for the other day.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, when he when he when if

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Speaker 2: he were to do that sort of stuff, I don't care.

652
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Speaker 2: Like sports are entertainment, these guys are in the entertainment business.

653
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Speaker 2: I think public trash talk is entertaining. I think it

654
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Speaker 2: gives us something to talk about, So it doesn't bother

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Speaker 2: me when those things do happen. But yeah, I would

656
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Speaker 2: imagine there's at least been some level of maturity here

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Speaker 2: that we've seen over the last couple of years that

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Speaker 2: maybe has compelled Jamar to not necessarily talk as much,

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Speaker 2: or maybe he is one of the focus to solely

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Speaker 2: be on his play. And Jamar was excellent this season.

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Speaker 2: It does go to show how good he was last

662
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Speaker 2: year that his numbers this year pale in comparison, But

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Speaker 2: Jamar was Bengals have a lot of problems, a lot

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Speaker 2: of problems. Jamar Chase is obviously not one of them.

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Speaker 2: Uh five point three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: You could call this show and be a goof anytime.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we we we I don't know that

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Speaker 2: in the history of this show nineteen years now, I

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Speaker 2: don't believe we've Now, we Tony and Austin used the

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Speaker 2: talkback feature in ways that we because that is their

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Speaker 2: piece of real estate and they're awesome at it. We've

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Speaker 2: never banned in I don't believe we have ever banned

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Speaker 2: a phone call. We've never I don't believe we have

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Speaker 2: ever said to anybody. I kind of feel about phone

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Speaker 2: calls the way I do blocking people on Twitter. I

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Speaker 2: checked this like a month or so ago. In the

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Speaker 2: years I've been on Twitter, I have blocked nine people,

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Speaker 2: and I feel the same way about phone calls. I

679
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Speaker 2: don't know why we got off on that couple away

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Speaker 2: from four o'clock. We are here till six, not blocking anybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Moeger, glad you're with us today. Five win three

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Speaker 2: seven four nine fifteen thirty. Is our phone number eight

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Speaker 2: sixty six seven oh two three seven seven six as

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Speaker 2: well on ESPN fifteen thirty, teen thirty where Bengals Nation lives. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's us. Thank you four four ESPN fifteen thirty. Moeger,

686
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: thanks for listening today. Hopefully the afternoon is treating you well.

687
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Speaker 2: This microphone stakes. I'm not I'm saying that it's Tony's fault.

688
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: And the microphone smells. We occasionally, look, it's it's a

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Speaker 2: device that people talk into for six hours a day.

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Speaker 2: Invariably after a while, it's going to smell. And and

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Speaker 2: this I think this particular microphone, I think we have

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Speaker 2: reached the point where it's time to swamp it out.

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Speaker 2: We got we got a room with like one too,

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Speaker 2: like five other microphones we could we could take the

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Speaker 2: one that's to my right and put it this one.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could even see it's got like gunk

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Speaker 2: on it. It's it's time. I don't know what you

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Speaker 2: do to clean a microphone, not that technically adept, but

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Speaker 2: there'll be some money in that event. Some Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure there's I mean, I'm sure, like if you asked

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Speaker 2: a sound engineer or or you know, somebody in our

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Speaker 2: shop that you know, what's the best thing to use

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Speaker 2: to clean off a microphone, they'd have something. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it's something as simple as like a chlorox wipe,

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Speaker 2: but there's a fair amount of gunk is accumulated on

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Speaker 2: this mic and it stinks, and so it's it's time.

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Speaker 2: For a new one. It is time for a new one.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, we're gonna preview what is going to be

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Speaker 2: an awesome event coming up a little bit later on

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Speaker 2: this week here in in just a few minutes. More

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Speaker 2: on the NFL playoffs from over the weekend, a few

712
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: leftover thoughts from the Duke Toobin Mega Press conference on Friday,

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Speaker 2: and some more college basketball as well. Reds Fest is

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Speaker 2: this weekend and we'll do Reds Fest and then we're

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Speaker 2: going to turn the page very quickly and spring training

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Speaker 2: is going to be here, and if you're like me,

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Speaker 2: you can't wait. Now. In the National League Central, the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs have signed Alex Bregman and he's going to

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Speaker 2: play third base for him. They also late last week

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Speaker 2: acquired Edward Cabrera to bolster their starting rotation, a twenty

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Speaker 2: seven year old righty who has pitched kind of under

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Speaker 2: the radar, certainly last year under the radar for the

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Speaker 2: Miami Marlins. Chicago Cubs are going for it. Kyle Tucker

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Speaker 2: is still unsigned. We'll see where he ends up. I

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00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: read a piece today at ESPN dot com that took

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Speaker 2: a look at all thirty teams and ranked them, and

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Speaker 2: you know, with each one of them discussed whether or

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00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: not the team has gotten better. They take a look at,

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00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: you know, different projection models out there. So for the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs, in all the simulations that ESPN's model has

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Speaker 2: put them through, their most recent was eighty five and

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Speaker 2: a half wins win average this year, eighty seven point

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Speaker 2: four in the playoffs sixty two point two percent of

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Speaker 2: the time prior to these two acquisitions, fifty three point

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Speaker 2: six in their power rankings, which are totally subjective. Eighth,

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Speaker 2: the Reds, by comparison, twentieth with a win average of

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Speaker 2: seventy nine point two chance of making the playoffs. That's

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Speaker 2: just under twenty three percent chance of winning the World Series.

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Speaker 2: That's point five percent. It is January the twelfth, so

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Speaker 2: the Reds last played the game on October the first,

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Speaker 2: so more than three months. Uh. They did sign a

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Speaker 2: good reliever in Pierce Johnson, who I do think, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: helps out their bullpen depth. But on January the twelfth,

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Speaker 2: looking at the roster where the big offseason acquisition has been,

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Speaker 2: JJ Bleda, does it feel like the Cincinnati Reds have

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Speaker 2: a better team today than the one that walked off

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Speaker 2: the field after losing to the Dodgers in Game two

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Speaker 2: on October the first. If the answer is yes, I'd

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Speaker 2: love to know why now. There is obviously some time

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00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: to go between now in Opening Day. There's obviously some

751
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: time to go, though not as much time to go

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00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: between now and the start of spring training. There are

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00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: still some trades that could be made a Euhanio Suarez

754
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: is yet unsigned. He may go to Boston to replace

755
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: Alex Pregnant. But this offseason is three plus months old,

756
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Speaker 2: and while they took the much needed and significant step

757
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: of finally qualifying for the postseason last year, it was

758
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: still an eighty three win team far from great. It

759
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: was still a team that went into the postseason barely

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Speaker 2: getting in and wasn't really taken seriously as a bona

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Speaker 2: fide championship contender. There was the flirtation with Kyle Schwarber,

762
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: which was equally fun and frustrating, But what was an

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00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: acknowledgment that they have a major issue when it comes

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Speaker 2: to their offense. Beyond that, not been a lot of news.

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Speaker 2: Beyond that, not been really anything to make you feel

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Speaker 2: like their biggest issue last year has been solved. Nothing

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00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: really done to make you feel like, this team has

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00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: a chance this season to be significantly better than last season,

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Speaker 2: and more than anything, a strategy that feels hope based.

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Speaker 2: The Rents are in a better place than they have

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Speaker 2: been for much of the last I don't know, ten years.

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00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: They've had some really awful seasons. So, like, you know,

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00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: there's off season in activity when you know you're going

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Speaker 2: to be bad twenty fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, twenty twenty two,

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00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: it's something else entirely when your team actually has a

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00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: chance to be pretty good. And so I can't help

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00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: but think, and it's been a number of years, it's

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00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: been fifteen years, but whenever I think of, like leaning

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Speaker 2: in on the strategy of hope, I think of the

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven Reds, and you know, that's that's becoming a

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Speaker 2: reference point. That is not the most timely because it's

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00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: been fifteen years, But if you need a refresher, in

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Speaker 2: twenty ten, the Reds win ninety one games when the

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00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: division kind of come from nowhere, surprise, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people make the playoffs and it was great, and then

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Speaker 2: they spent the following off season kind of not doing anything,

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Speaker 2: just waiting for better results, sort of did something similar

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Speaker 2: at the end of the twenty thirteen season, after which

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Speaker 2: they fired the manager, places Dusty Baker with Brian Price,

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00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: watched hinsuit chew walk, watch Bronson Royal rock a royal

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Speaker 2: walk easy for me to say, and then did nothing.

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Speaker 2: And I think those two off seasons are when we

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Speaker 2: started to talk about the off season of using hope

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00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: as a strategy. Hope, as I think has been well established,

795
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: is not a strategy. Hope is an emotion. Hope is

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00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: something you feel. Does it feel to you like? The

797
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: strategy this offseason has been hope. Hoping for better performances

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00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: from players who underperformed last year, hoping for different outcomes

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00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: offensively because the pitching last season was really good. Hoping

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Speaker 2: for different outcomes from what is largely the same collection

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00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: of players so far. That's what it feels like. The

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00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: strategy is Should that be the strategy when you have

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00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: a team filled with players that is worth building around,

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00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: that made the postseason last year, but can only use

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00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: last year as a success if it proves to be

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Speaker 2: a pivot to something bitter, bigger in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: More on that coming up in just a bit. One

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Speaker 2: of my favorite events on the Cincinnati Winter Calendar is

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Speaker 2: happening on Thursday. Will preview it when we come back

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: Eastbound Norwood Lateral, the off ramp to southbound seventy one

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Speaker 7: shut down due to an accident that's with an overturned

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Speaker 7: southbound seventy one seventy five approaching Mountain Zion Road that's

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Speaker 7: got the right lane blocked off. I'm at ezelic with traffic.

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by Apollo Home In fifteen thirty Moeger,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for listening. Today. It's sports tag season.

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Speaker 2: One of the best is taking place on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Always honored to ask to participate the fifty fifth Roger

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Speaker 2: Bacon Sports Tag featuring do we call him? Keynote speaker

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Speaker 2: Sean Casey, Shawn case See. The Mayor is going to

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Speaker 2: be there. This is an awesome event. I've had a

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Speaker 2: chance to uh be a part of it, attend it

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Speaker 2: can't wait for Thursday night here to tell us more

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Speaker 2: about it. A guy who's getting an award. The head

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Speaker 2: football coach at Roger Bacon, Mike Bloud is with us.

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta talk about yourself getting an award. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of weird. It's yes, I'm not ready for that.

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Speaker 8: I was not ready to get the award and the

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00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 8: committee kind of overrun me a little bit. So yes,

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Speaker 8: I'm getting award, but it's it's more about Sean Casey

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Speaker 8: coming in and yeah, you know, celebrating with us a

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Speaker 8: little bit. So it's it's it's really cool. How's a

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Speaker 8: big Sean Casey fan. And Tom Rable who is the

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Speaker 8: award that he's getting a Tom Rable Good Fellowship Award. Uh,

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Speaker 8: you know we we call Sean Casey the mayor. Well

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Speaker 8: that was Tom Rable for us. He was he was

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Speaker 8: our mayor. He he just fits the epitome exactly what

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00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 8: Sean Casey is. So it's kind of cool that he's

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Speaker 8: getting that.

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Speaker 2: A setting like this where you're looking for somebody to

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Speaker 2: be engaging and tell stories, this is in Sean Casey's wheelhouse.

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Speaker 2: He could be a professional stag speaker if you wanted

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's what we keep hearing, and we can't wait

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Speaker 8: to have him. It's we're we're very excited to have

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Speaker 8: him in the building.

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Speaker 2: All right. So it's Thursday night, fifty to fifty annual

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Speaker 2: men only. Run through everything that's going to be happening

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. Okay, Well, the doors open at six. We

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Speaker 2: have a social from six to seven thirty. Dinner then

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Speaker 2: follows it to l Ros's dinner. Larrosis are our big sponsor,

857
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: presented by Rota Router. There are two big sponsors.

858
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 8: There's a VIP reception area from six to seven thirty

859
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 8: for those that buy the VIP tickets which are one

860
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty bucks. The general admission is just seventy five,

861
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 8: and so we basically have two different parties going on

862
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 8: at one time. And then we all come together for

863
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 8: the big, the Big Award night, and then I will

864
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 8: be receiving our bron Beseovich Coaching Award first and then

865
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 8: we'll be given Sean Casey the stage with you. Yeah,

866
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 8: we appreciate you coming down and doing that again with us.

867
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 8: Quite quite the coup there to get me big deal. Well,

868
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 8: you and I had a good time last year doing it,

869
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 8: Yes we did. We had a good time. So we're

870
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 8: expecting the same thing this year. And and we know

871
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 8: Sean is is going to be a good one.

872
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: This is obviously it's a fun event, but it's a

873
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: very important one for the Roger Bacon community. Right.

874
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 8: Yes, it is our biggest fundraiser for the athletic department. Uh,

875
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 8: you know, we got a lot of great sports and

876
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 8: a lot of very successful sports, and so it funds

877
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 8: everything that we do, and and you know all the

878
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 8: boys sports, all the girls' sports, and so yeah, it's

879
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 8: a big night for us. How do you get a

880
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 8: guy like Sean Casey to do this? We just called

881
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 8: him an askety.

882
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

883
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: Simple.

884
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 8: We had a connection with him and gave him a

885
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 8: call and he agreed to do it.

886
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: And like I said, we're really excited to have him there. Yeah,

887
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of fun. It's going to

888
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: be on Thursday night. Here's what I like about it.

889
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: I got to Roger Bacon. Right, I'm a Kentucky public

890
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: high school kid. Right, But if you love the Reds

891
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: and you want to hear Sean Casey tell stories, you

892
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: don't have to be a Roger Bacon alum, correct, you

893
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: do not.

894
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you just want to come and hear him,

895
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 8: and I'm sure he's gonna give us a lot of

896
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 8: good red stories. Uh yeah, anybody and everybody can come

897
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 8: down to it, and uh, you know, we get a

898
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 8: lot of walk ups at the door. Ticket sales have

899
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 8: been really really good, as you can expect. Sure a

900
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 8: lot of VIP tickets are being sold, and you know,

901
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 8: the night of, we'll get another one hundred, one hundred.

902
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: And fifty people walking up and buying tickets at the

903
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: door too.

904
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 8: So so right now you can buy tickets online and

905
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 8: then they're left at will call for you, or you

906
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 8: can buy them the night of. What's the website Roger

907
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 8: Bacon dot org. Very good and as soon as you

908
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 8: log in, it pops right up. It's right there, it's

909
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 8: right there, very good. Can't miss the can't miss the

910
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 8: mayor right on the front cover. No, he's right there.

911
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 8: So this is going to be a blast. And here's

912
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 8: the thing that I think is most important. Ton of

913
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 8: food and drink. Yes, absolutely so. We have we have

914
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 8: Hayman's Catering, who sponsors the VIP area and that food

915
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 8: is fantastic. And then of course Buddy Lorosa, who is

916
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 8: a proud Roger Bacon grad.

917
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: Buddy sponsors the.

918
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 8: Main dinner over in the in the where the program

919
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 8: takes place, so you get plenty of pizza in the

920
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 8: Italian sausage.

921
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've had that there yet.

922
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 8: The Italian sausage is fantastic, usually one of the big

923
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 8: crowd favorites.

924
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 9: Uh.

925
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 8: And so yes, everybody eats well, we drink well, and

926
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 8: we have a very good time. And the Sean Casey thing,

927
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 8: it's important.

928
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: He'll tell stories and but I'll try to get you know,

929
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: I'll try to get him to open up a little bit.

930
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: He's kind of a shy guy. But there's an audience

931
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: Q and A there is. So if there's always been

932
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: a question you've wanted to ask Sean Casey, this is

933
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: your opportunity.

934
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 8: It is and you get to ask it with Alex Meacham.

935
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you get a little ucy bearcat action.

936
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 5: Wow.

937
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: So well that's going well. Yeah, I'm sure Alex will

938
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: have lots of pointed questions aimed in him about this

939
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: year's team.

940
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 8: He does, yes, yes, So yeah, Alex is uh he's

941
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 8: pinchitting for me because I'm normally the MC, but this

942
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 8: year I'm not so Alex. And Alex was in my

943
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 8: first class. I taught Alex really way back, long time ago. Yes,

944
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 8: do you claim that?

945
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 2: Is that something? I try not to but.

946
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 8: He's kind of famous. Now did you teach Alex or

947
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 8: was he just in your class? There's a difference. He

948
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 8: was just in my class he actually received. That was

949
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 8: a very young teacher, and he received the first attention

950
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 8: I ever gave. What do you do?

951
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. He was probably just being you know

952
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: what he did? Yeah, he was just being a knucklehead.

953
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: I thought, right, yeah, that was Alex? Is that is

954
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 2: that going the form? What would you get a detention

955
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: for being a knuckle hass? It did?

956
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 8: Actually we had little blue sheets that everybody got, and

957
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 8: so I'm sure that'll be brought up thirty if if

958
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 8: where I went to school, you got a detention for

959
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 8: being a knucklehead, I would have just had to carve

960
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 8: out like a ninth period every day, right, yes, exactly,

961
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 8: just for being a knucklehead.

962
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: Alex spent a lot of time in detention while he

963
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: was Bacon. Yes, very good, very good. All right, So

964
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 2: Thursday night tickets are available at the door. It could

965
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: also go to Roger Bacon dot org. Correct. By the way,

966
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: how do you get the award? Don't be humble? Right

967
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: the award you're getting? What is it outlining for me?

968
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: And congratulations? Thank you?

969
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very humbling being a Roger Bacon guy, It's

970
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 8: very humbling. Coach Basevich is our legendary coach. He won

971
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty games at Bacon. He won another

972
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty games at other schools, so well

973
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 8: over three hundred before that ever playoffs. Fantastic coach and

974
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 8: he was. He is the pillar of Roger Bacon. Our

975
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 8: stadium is named after him. A lot of awards are

976
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 8: named after him. He gave a lot back to the

977
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 8: community and I've been fortunate enough to be there long

978
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 8: enough where I've kind of followed in his footsteps. And

979
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 8: the committee kind of ambushed me with me getting the

980
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 8: award this year. I was not expecting it, but very

981
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 8: humble and I'm very appreciative of it.

982
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: It's a cool award done. That's awesome. That's awesome. So

983
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: you have to step down from mc dude. I had

984
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 2: to do that. For Dan hord once. Do you see

985
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame dinner? Because the MC is the thing,

986
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: and they put him in the Hall of Fame, and

987
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: I thought it would have been funny for him to

988
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 2: introduce himself as a Hall of Famer, but they made

989
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: me do it, right, you know, I get it. I've

990
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: seen this sort of thing. Is there anything else that

991
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: folks need to know about Thursday night?

992
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 8: No, just come, be ready to have a good time

993
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 8: and we look forward to seeing a lot of people there.

994
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 8: Sean Casey and the event begins at what time six o'clock?

995
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 8: The door's open social from six to seven thirty. Then

996
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 8: there's the full scale dinner with the Rosa's, and then

997
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 8: the program starts right at eight.

998
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good time. Sean is the absolute best.

999
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: I've seen him in this setting before. And you will

1000
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 2: not find a better stag speaker than Sean Casey, even

1001
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 2: if the person lobbing him the questions is below average. Right, great, Great,

1002
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: that's what we want to hear. That's what we want

1003
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: to hear. Awesome. Well, congratulations, thank you and looking forward

1004
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: to a Thursday and thanks for having me and thanks

1005
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: for stopping by, Thanks for having me on Rogerbacon dot org.

1006
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: The fifty fifth Roger Bacon Sports Tag featuring Sean Casey

1007
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: is going to be on Thursday night. It is an

1008
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: absolute awesome time. Raises money for Roger Bacon Athletics and

1009
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: even even if you didn't go to Roger Bacon, want

1010
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: to hear Sean Casey tell stories. You'll have a blast again.

1011
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: Rogerbacon dot Org for tickets or get them at the door.

1012
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: It is twenty five after four o'clock. This is ESPN

1013
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1014
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,840
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1015
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1020
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1022
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1025
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1026
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1029
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Speaker 2: reportedly have added a reliever, Pierce Johnson. This news came

1030
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Speaker 2: out yesterday. I saw it reported originally by John Hayman

1031
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: of CBS Sports. If he indeed was not the first,

1032
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: my apologies. Piers Johnson is a thirty four year old

1033
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,280
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1034
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves. Last season for Atlanta, he had an ERA

1035
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 2: of three point zero five in sixty five games. Meanwhile,

1036
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: the NFL Playoffs continue tonight final wildcard game in Pittsburgh,

1037
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: the Steelers hosting the Texans. That game is going to

1038
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: be heard tonight on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. College basketball

1039
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: Latest AP Top twenty five Men's poll is out. The

1040
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: Miami RedHawks enough for twenty ninth, up from thirtieth last week.

1041
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: You could talk Xavier basketball tonight on the Richard Patino

1042
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: radio show. I think last night I called it the

1043
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: Rick Patino Show. No, It's the Richard Patino Radio Show

1044
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: tonight at seven pm on fifty five krc XU, with

1045
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: a win on Saturday over Providence. The Mark Pope Radio

1046
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: Show follows us at six on ESPN fifteen thirty. After that,

1047
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: it's the NKU Coaches Show. If you love college basketball

1048
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: coaches shows well, then tonight's programming on your iHeartRadio station

1049
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: is for you. FC Cincinnati has signed veteran forward Tom

1050
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: Barlow to a contract through the twenty twenty seven season.

1051
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: He is a thirty years old spent the last couple

1052
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: of years with the Chicago Fire. Appeared in fifty Major

1053
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: League Soccer regular season games, scored five goals. Before that,

1054
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: he was with the Red Bulls for six seasons as

1055
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 2: a twenty eighteen MLS Super Draft pick out of Wisconsin.

1056
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: Reading here from Laurel Failure of Queens City Press, FC

1057
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: Cincinnati begins preseason training tomorrow in Clearwater, Florida, you are oh.

1058
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 2: Also you see as a new defensive coordinator Wait wait,

1059
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: Nate Woodye from Army is taking over for Tyson Vite

1060
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati is also extended the contract of general manager

1061
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: Zach Grant, along with strength and conditioning coach Nico Palazetti.

1062
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: Now now you are up to date, not that you

1063
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: weren't to begin with, Sam and independence you're on s

1064
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,479
Speaker 2: being fifteen thirty. Sam, good afternoon. How are you.

1065
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 10: No calling back in again? I guess we're gonna talk

1066
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 10: about Bearcats again?

1067
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: Let's do it. What's up? Sam? What's on your mind?

1068
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 10: So?

1069
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 4: Uh?

1070
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 10: Again? Well, last night in between Antbel was watching the

1071
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 10: Bearcats again as I as I tend to do.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 10: I I used to get angry about UC losing basketball games.

1074
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 10: Now I just don't. And I'm not even saying that.

1075
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 10: I'm not telling people to be you know, right, what's

1076
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 10: right or wrong, because, like you see, I just they

1077
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 10: lost the game, and I'm not only am I not angry,

1078
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 10: I I I actually genuinely feel sorry for them because

1079
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 10: I thought they played well last.

1080
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: Night, agreed, And I'm just.

1081
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 10: I've caught in the last couple of times to talk

1082
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 10: about West. I think West coached a good game. I

1083
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 10: think he did what we wanted him to do. He

1084
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 10: cut the rotation down to his six best players, his

1085
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 10: five starters and the Jalen Yes, he cut a Kinley's Bennetts.

1086
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 10: You didn't see Keyshan Tillery out there that much. He

1087
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 10: didn't see uh Zella out there very long. He actually

1088
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 10: went Bustafa play and he was very good defensively and

1089
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 10: was very efficient. And what happened at the end everything

1090
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 10: I was out last night. I didn't get to watch

1091
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 10: the ending on TV, but I was best about seven

1092
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 10: hundred in it. That's what I felt bad. You almost

1093
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 10: you almost felt just this despondence. In Dan Horde. In

1094
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 10: the last thirty seconds of that game, a guy just

1095
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 10: threw throws a ball off the rim. It goes. I

1096
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 10: don't know how it went. In we as opposed to

1097
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 10: the West Virginia game, we don't want a dumb play

1098
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 10: where Bob Miller chucks of the three. If we give

1099
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 10: Jaalin a great look, a great shot and it just rolls,

1100
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 10: it's half way inside the cup and it just rolls out.

1101
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 10: I'm not even angry. It's just we play well, and

1102
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 10: we do everything, and they do what we say they

1103
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 10: should do and they still lose.

1104
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's it's worth mentioning. And this is not,

1105
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: by any stretch an excuse, but Kenpalm dot com has

1106
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: a luck rating, which accounts for things that are and

1107
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm putting this in the best

1108
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: possible way, but accounts for things that are maybe beyond

1109
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: your control that happened to you. Cincinnati is second to last.

1110
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: There are three hundred and sixty five Division I college

1111
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: basket ball teams. Cincinnati is three hundred and sixty fourth.

1112
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, there there have been there have been

1113
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: some things beyond their control that have gone against them.

1114
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: UCF Banks and a three Celestian gets a pretty good

1115
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: look and it doesn't go. That's that's not It's not

1116
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: the shot that I wanted there. I wanted something at

1117
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: the rim. West talked about that after the game. I

1118
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen, you know, them draw

1119
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: some defenders to a penetrator and then maybe have somebody

1120
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: throw a lobb to Mustapha Chom, who was really good yesterday.

1121
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: But I think the frustrating thing about the game yesterday

1122
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: is if you look at it in a vacuum. In

1123
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: a vacuum, you go, all right, shrug your shoulders. They

1124
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: lost to a rank team on the road. They did

1125
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: a lot of good things enough to win, and they

1126
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: simply didn't. No big deal. The problem is it's lost

1127
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: number eight. The problem is the lack of execution in

1128
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: all these games where they've failed to win in the

1129
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: closing minutes has put them and in a situation we're

1130
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: losing that game yesterday, it's hard to glean any positives

1131
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: from it. Which we said the same thing about West Virginia,

1132
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: said the same thing about Houston. Like now, the number

1133
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: of losses and the math just sort of obscures anything

1134
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: else that happens on the floor. And that's what's frustrating

1135
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: about where they are, because I would love to look

1136
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: at yesterday as a game where you go, you know what,

1137
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: maybe to a degree offensively, they turn the corner. Maybe

1138
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: Mustapha Chom, maybe the I hate to say, the light

1139
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: bulbs come on, but maybe there's some confidence that he

1140
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: can take from that game and apply it to what's next.

1141
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 2: And if you're sixteen and four, that's probably what we're

1142
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: talking about today. They're not, they're eight and eight. The

1143
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: games they have in front of them, frankly, many of

1144
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: them seem damn near impossible. And so I think that's

1145
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: what I walked away from yesterday going, you know, I

1146
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: would love to just go, man, they got unlucky or boy,

1147
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: it was a road game that was there for the

1148
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: taking and gotten away. I can't. It's eight losses. It's

1149
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: eight losses in a season where they have fifteen more

1150
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: regular season games to go, and you're wondering what is

1151
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: that final loss total going to be? You're left wondering,

1152
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: Like I think, say what you want about Wes. He

1153
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: obviously has taken and to a degree, deserved a lot

1154
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: of the criticism that has come his way. I think

1155
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: for the most part, his team has done what he

1156
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: has said, which is they've stayed together, they've played hard.

1157
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: But the longer the losing goes, at any level of sport,

1158
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: you wonder how long is the coach going to be

1159
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: able to keep the team together? And if he's not

1160
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: able to, then what do some of these games look like?

1161
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: I just threw a lot at you, Sam, But I

1162
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: would love to look at yesterday's game as a game

1163
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Speaker 2: where you go, Okay, if they play like that, they're

1164
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: gonna win their share of big twelve games. You can't

1165
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: when they're eight and eight.

1166
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 10: No, you can. That's where losing that West virtuine the

1167
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 10: game at the end hurts. That's where blowing that big

1168
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 10: lead to Houston at home hurts. Going back a while,

1169
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 10: that's are losing to EMU and non conference play really hurts.

1170
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's because if you change the results of those games,

1172
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 10: they're eleven and five, and you say, and you can

1173
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 10: take last night as okay, you know, yeah uts or

1174
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 10: ranked team they have, but you know, and yeah, I mean,

1175
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 10: if they play like that last night, maybe they'll they

1176
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 10: will win some conference games.

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Speaker 1: But it.

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Speaker 10: That their performance last night, how well they played, even

1179
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 10: the loss, and seems like an outlier after down the

1180
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 10: stretch Concuston, they couldn't buy a bucket West Virginia. We

1181
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 10: just started shooting whatever shots we want at the end

1182
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 10: of the game. EMU, we just whatever happened there. I mean,

1183
01:07:53,280 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 10: it's just I don't know, it's it's just becoming very frustrated.

1184
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 10: It's been very hard to see any pause. It's about

1185
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 10: this season, even when they played well.

1186
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, look, the this is not like

1187
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: two years ago. Two years ago, nobody was using the

1188
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament and selection Sunday as a barometer. Two years ago,

1189
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 2: it was demonstrate some level of competitiveness in the Big Twelve,

1190
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: which I thought for the most part they did the

1191
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,839
Speaker 2: first two years. It was not about making the tournament.

1192
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: It was just steady the program. This year, there's one barometer,

1193
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: do they make the tournament or don't they? They're eight

1194
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: and eight? There, eight' and eight with no good wins

1195
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 2: and one really bad loss, like there's nothing you can

1196
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do about that. And so yeah, man,

1197
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 2: if that game yesterday is what we would have seen

1198
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: during any one of the games they played two years ago,

1199
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Speaker 2: I think we shrug our shoulders and go, Okay, we're

1200
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: not using the tournament this year as a barometer, so

1201
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: try to pull some positives from this year. It's do

1202
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: you make the tournament or don't you? And at eight

1203
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: and eight, just call it what it is. It's it's

1204
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: impossible to imagine them playing themselves, even into the fringes

1205
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 2: of the conversation, and losing last night or winning last

1206
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 2: night wouldn't have changed that. But now, like you're you're

1207
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: only watching this team through I think two different lenses.

1208
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: One is do they make the tournament? Right now, it's

1209
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: abundantly clear they don't have the resume, the most obvious

1210
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: thing I've ever said. And the other lens is you

1211
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen with regards to Wes Miller when

1212
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: the season comes to an end, because the more the

1213
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: losses pile up, I think, the more, unfortunately, and I

1214
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: hate to say this, the more it feels like it

1215
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 2: seals his faith.

1216
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's yeah. And what's funny is looking at the

1217
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 10: NSA tournament now, is just a distant goal for this team. Yeah,

1218
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 10: there's a miracle that might happen. You know, maybe there

1219
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 10: is a miracle and it happens they win ten streak

1220
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 10: a time they make the tournament. Who knows. I don't

1221
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 10: think they will, but maybe it happens.

1222
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: But I sam if this team, if this team wins

1223
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: ten straight games, I will walk from where I am

1224
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 2: right now to your house in Independence.

1225
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 10: I would I would do of any variety of things.

1226
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 10: If they win ten games, it'd be a remarkable thing.

1227
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I didn't think.

1228
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 10: And again, if that seems far, again, that's a far

1229
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 10: affection to this is. But at the beginning of the year,

1230
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 10: and you've said this, we talked about this. I didn't

1231
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 10: think at least qualify for the NCAA Tournament wasn't a

1232
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 10: reasonable ask of of this team. No, no, it wasn't

1233
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 10: totally For a reason, It's not like I hate to

1234
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 10: throw Xavier under the bus. It's not like Xavier where

1235
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 10: it's just like build something when when rich Patino came

1236
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 10: in there with nothing to Sean bill Er left and

1237
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 10: right to the pantry way out. But it it's just

1238
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 10: this is going to be seven years where we haven't

1239
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 10: made the tournament, and that really as someone who is

1240
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 10: a fan even during the years of Huggins and Cronin,

1241
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 10: I know we're not a blue blood, but seven years

1242
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 10: stout tournament for really is really hard to faunce.

1243
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: When you know, for a lot of us fourteen straight

1244
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: years and then nine straight years with four in the middle.

1245
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: So that's twenty three out of twenty seven I guess

1246
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: twenty five straight years because Andy Kennedy didn't make it,

1247
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: but twenty three out of twenty eight years were your

1248
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: teams in the tournament. To have them not even not

1249
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: make it, but we don't wake up on selection Sunday

1250
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: thinking they have a chance like that that has become

1251
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: unfortunately normalized the game yesterday, You're right, it's it's frustrating

1252
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: because they're down five two different occasions in the final

1253
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: four minutes and come back and put themselves in a

1254
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: position to win right, they take the lead. They execute

1255
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 2: well enough offensively to take the lead in a game

1256
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 2: that felt like it was getting away from them when

1257
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 2: they fell behind by five points. They execute well. They

1258
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: get a very good individual performance by Mustapha Chohm Wes Miller.

1259
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: One of the criticisms has been that he plays too

1260
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: many guys. He does shrink the rotation. Only one sub

1261
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: played more than seven minutes, and it was Jalen Celestine

1262
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: and they still lose the game. And they played well

1263
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: enough offensively. They executed, I thought for the most part,

1264
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: certainly compared to how they've played here recently. They executed

1265
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: pretty well in the half court and they still don't win.

1266
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: Like you talk about feeling bad, I felt bad for

1267
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 2: Wes in that set of circumstances. I felt bad for

1268
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 2: the players in that set of circumstances because a lot

1269
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: of the stuff we have said, we've wanted to see

1270
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 2: them do better, they don't. Now that last possession this

1271
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 2: team is two hundred and fiftieth in the nation and

1272
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: free throw attempts because they're not great at just driving

1273
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: the ball to the rim, getting contact and getting to

1274
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: the free throw line. To see something at the rim.

1275
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to see a lob. I wanted to see

1276
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: somebody drive the ball at the rim and a not

1277
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: a three point shot, but even the three point shot

1278
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 2: they got, they nearly made. And I think it would

1279
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: have been a lot of fun to talk about this team,

1280
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: at least going on the road in the face of

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: all the scrutiny, all the attention, all the conjecture about

1282
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: Wes's postgame comments and proving what he said, they're going

1283
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: to do right, we're gonna stay together. They did, but

1284
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: nobody wants to talk about that because they lost the game.

1285
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter because they lost the game, but

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01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: because they're eight and eight. So as that game unfolded

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01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 2: and as it ended last night, my first reaction was

1288
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: that would have been a chance for us to say

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that we've wanted to say

1290
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: about this team all season long, even if only about

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01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: one game. And it's a chance to talk about that

1292
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Speaker 2: team doing what Wes said it was going to do,

1293
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Speaker 2: which is play hard, play together, and figure out a

1294
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: way to get a victory in the face of all

1295
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: the heat that's been coming down on it. And instead

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: the result is similar and it sends them to eight

1297
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: and eight, and it only intensifies the bad vibes, the

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01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: bad feelings, the criticism and all that that has been

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Speaker 2: out there about this program for a while.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's you know, and I again the I feel

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01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 10: sorry for the players. I mean they you can't say

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01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 10: they did the one thing you could say about you

1303
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 10: see this year. They the effort is there, the execution

1304
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 10: often isn't. Yeah, but it's so I feel for them

1305
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 10: because I want to like this group of players, I

1306
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 10: really do. There's some really likable guys on this team

1307
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 10: that you want to reform, but there's Again it's just

1308
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 10: the top line. Result in sports is what matters. And

1309
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 10: they're eight and eight. Are they going to finish for

1310
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 10: five hundred this year? I don't think so. The NCAA

1311
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 10: tournament is just a distant pipe dream at this point

1312
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 10: seven years. We have been there seven years. Again, that's

1313
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 10: something that you would be a crisis in two thousand

1314
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 10: and ten if under Cronin or Bobby if we had

1315
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 10: gone seven years without tournament. First, But and I want

1316
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 10: to like West, I really do want to like West,

1317
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 10: and I want to believe in what he says. But

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 10: I just and but the results aren't there. They're eight man,

1319
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 10: that's that's not You're a power conference team, that's five

1320
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 10: hundred and you have you don't have a good win.

1321
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 10: You had a chance to have a season change. You

1322
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 10: win over Houston, really and you couldn't execute down the

1323
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 10: stretch last night. Maybe a chance to change the narrative,

1324
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 10: if just for a couple of days. And whether it's

1325
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 10: they didn't execute or they got unlucky, whatever you want

1326
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 10: to say, it just it just felt like another it's

1327
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 10: just another punch in the stomach at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's unfortunately, Sam, thank you for the phone call.

1329
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten I haven't gotten um to it. Like

1330
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: that loss, that loss last night hurt as as well.

1331
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: And look, if if they win that game, I don't

1332
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: think anybody is gonna go, you know what, here come

1333
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 2: the Bearcats or if they win that game, I don't

1334
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 2: think anybody is wondering about what they need to do

1335
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: to make the NCAA tournament, Like that's that's going out

1336
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: the window. But I do think Man and like Wes,

1337
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:32,440
Speaker 2: has gotten a lot of heat and a lot of criticism,

1338
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: and a lot of it aimed at postgame comments and

1339
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: and that that criticism, I think for the most part,

1340
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: has been deserved. But his overall point, especially after the

1341
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 2: West Virginia game, was we're gonna stay together, We're gonna

1342
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 2: hang in there, We're not gonna quit. I think yesterday

1343
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: was proof of those things. But it doesn't matter when

1344
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: you lose. And that sounds really harsh, But I talked

1345
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: about the top of the show about like I felt

1346
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 2: bad for the players, and to a degree, I felt

1347
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 2: bad for Wes because, Okay, they're not a tournament team,

1348
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: and yeah, man, fans are angry and should be, and

1349
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 2: the booze are alloud, and I think they're going to

1350
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: be loud tomorrow or are allowed on Wednesday. And Wes

1351
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: is fighting for his job, which his job status is

1352
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: very very much in jeopardy. I think he would be

1353
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: the first to admit that. But when they didn't win

1354
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: the game yesterday, I thought that would have been at

1355
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: least a tangible piece of evidence backed by victory that

1356
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: what Wes said is going to happen is happening. The

1357
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: worm is going to turn, the effort's not going to

1358
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 2: be compromised. They're gonna hang in there, They've got each

1359
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: other's back. All that stuff that sounds silly. Had they

1360
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: found a way to win that game yesterday, which I

1361
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: thought for the most part they played well enough to win,

1362
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 2: then you've got you've got something that happened that you go, Yes,

1363
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 2: this is what I've been talking about. We're we're not

1364
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: gonna jump ship. We are gonna hang together, we are

1365
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 2: gonna go us against the world, and instead it's just

1366
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 2: a familiar result that just it fuels the frustration and

1367
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: anger that's already out there. And so yeah, man, I

1368
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: do think it's completely fair. Man Like, when losing continues,

1369
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 2: you wonder like, how does a coach keep his team together?

1370
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: We did that with the Bengals this year. Right, Hey,

1371
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: the offense is awesome, the defense is terrible. How are

1372
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: they going to keep this team from fracturing? And by

1373
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: the way, I don't think it seems like it did.

1374
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 2: Like even when it felt like, all right, it's gonna

1375
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 2: be offense versus defense, it did feel to me like

1376
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: they hung together. You wonder that in sports, well, in

1377
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: an era where like there's tampering and players can go

1378
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: from one school to the next, especially when there's a

1379
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: lot of conversation about the future of the head coach,

1380
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 2: you do wonder like, what's this going to look like

1381
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: down the stretch, purely from an effort perspective if the

1382
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: losing continues, And uh, it's a fair question. Winning yesterday

1383
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: may not have made that question go away, but it

1384
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 2: would have been a chance to focus on something on

1385
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: the things that Wes wants people to focus on, which

1386
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 2: is how hard they play and you can't, you won't,

1387
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: and we're not. Because that loss dropped him to eight

1388
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: and eight, it is eight away from five o'clock. This

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01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: Except Rob Manford is apparently toying with the idea of

1400
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: having an in season tournament like the NBA, no, thank

1401
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: you very much, or having a split season Terarn feel

1402
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: free to say no to that one as well. What

1403
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 2: are we doing overthinking things? Rob Manfred has come up

1404
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: with some good ideas. Maybe he hasn't come up with them,

1405
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 2: but he has implemented some good ideas. The pitch clock

1406
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: has been awesome. Banning the shift, which I was opposed to,

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01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: has been a positive.

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01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna be a big fan of the runner

1410
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: on second base starting in the tenth inning, but I

1411
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: think most fans like it. It's where TV ratings are up,

1412
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: attendance is up. It feels like the sport's in a

1413
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 2: much better place now. We're going to have a lockout

1414
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 2: in a year which made torpedo everything. So I'm never

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01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: gonna be one of these baseball fans that just you know,

1416
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: gets mad at change because that's what we do. Having

1417
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: a DH in both leagues I think is a good thing.

1418
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: It was silly to have two sets of rules for

1419
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 2: one league. An in season tournament, come on, Like, I

1420
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 2: think it's been an added attraction in the NBA. I'm

1421
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: not saying that because my team won it. But there

1422
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: has been a meaninglessness attached to the NBA regular season

1423
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: for a while, and player effort in regular season games

1424
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 2: was an issue, and to a degree, I think still is.

1425
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: Where you have people who are consuming the sports that

1426
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 2: don't believe the players are giving their full effort in

1427
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: regular season games, and so they wanted to create something

1428
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: to incentivize players to play harder in the regular season.

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01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: No such issue exists in Major League Baseball. Nobody is

1430
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: worrying about player effort in regular season games. If anything,

1431
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 2: it's still the sport where the regular season matters most

1432
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 2: in a split season scenario, which obviously what comes to

1433
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 2: mind is the eighty one player strike, where the Reds

1434
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 2: did have the best record in the sport but didn't

1435
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: make the postseason. Can you even imagine what the sport

1436
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: would look like? It's already seemingly a foregone conclusion that

1437
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 2: a lot of different teams are gonna make the postseason

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01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: every year. Like the Dodgers team wins its division in

1439
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 2: the first half of the season, won't it be fun

1440
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: watching that team play for nothing in the second half

1441
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 2: of the season or play for seeding slash home field.

1442
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 2: Come on, how about this, get to work on your CBA.

1443
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 2: Let's get rid of labor talk for a decade. Let's

1444
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: penalize owners who don't spend. Let's get more people owning

1445
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 2: baseball team. So we'll try and forget about other gimmicks.

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01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 2: Coming up on FI five o'clock on Moeger. This is

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 2: thirty Moeger. Thanks for listening. Hopefully your week is off

1453
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: to a great start. The Mark Pope Show is coming

1454
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 2: up in an hour. I appreciate the folks who have

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01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: called our show today for doing the heavy lifting. There's

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01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: an NFL game tonight. I I don't want to sleep

1457
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 2: through it because I'm genuinely interested in seeing what the

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01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers try to do against that Texans defense. But

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01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: there's there's a part of your friend Moe who would

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01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 2: love to go to bed from about seven o'clock tonight

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01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: to eight am tomorrow and badly needs it. So to speak,

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Speaker 2: nobody cares about that. Five point three seven four nine

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is our phone number. Let's see here, Mike,

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01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 2: go ahead, you could start the hour. You're not supposed

1465
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 2: to do that, but we're doing it anyway. Go ahead,

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Speaker 2: You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: Well, God bless you for that.

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01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 10: Thank you so much, mister Agar. I appreciate you.

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01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:16,799
Speaker 2: You're very welcome.

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01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 4: Karon Bland appreciate you as well, so do I. Interesting

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01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 4: discussion of what Sam about the Bearcats. I can't say anymore.

1472
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 4: You guys covered it.

1473
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 10: I'm just.

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01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 4: So damn disappointed. This has gone on too long now. Man,

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 4: it almost has me in tears. I'm so upset about it.

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01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 4: I had big hopes for this year, Mo, you did.

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Speaker 2: Too, Yes, I thought this would be a I thought

1478
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: that this would be a team. I didn't believe without

1479
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: any doubt that they were an NCAA tournament team because

1480
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: the way last season unfolded but created some well earned skepticism.

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01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: You looked at the player they had last year, I

1482
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: thought that was going to be a tournament team. They

1483
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 2: didn't come close, but I did believe that they would

1484
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: be in the conversation. I thought we would spend February

1485
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: in early March at least talking about where they are

1486
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 2: in relation to the field, looking at stuff like bracketology

1487
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: through the lens of how close or how far is

1488
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: Cincinnati from making the dance. To not even do that

1489
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,440
Speaker 2: is very disappointing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just I you know, and we all like West,

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01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 4: I mean, what's not a like about today? You know,

1492
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 4: we get too personal with some of this stuff, and

1493
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 4: he's doing his best. It's just not I don't know,

1494
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 4: how can we lose all these games down the stretch

1495
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 4: they don't execute getting blown out?

1496
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they don't. They don't execute. I mean that's

1497
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: that they've been in every single one of their losses.

1498
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: The Louisville game, you know, as the Cardinals were down,

1499
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 2: Ford time extended the lead to twelve, and so is

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01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 2: the second half unfolded. I never really thought they were

1501
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 2: gonna win that one. But okay, the rest of them,

1502
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: they've had a chance, and yeah they've they've had some

1503
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: bad breaks, that's I think undeniable. But at the end

1504
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 2: of the day, they haven't executed. And I think unfortunately,

1505
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: there's lots of seasons that go down like this. But

1506
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: when the season is judged solely by do you make

1507
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 2: the tournament or don't you and how you answer that

1508
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: question is going to determine whether or not you keep

1509
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: your job, It's it's viewed differently, and that's that's certainly

1510
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 2: the case this year with this team.

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01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everybody to a man seems to be more

1512
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 4: optimistic about me Grip Patino's junior chances with his team

1513
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 4: than West with his team. That's just the popular consensus

1514
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 4: right now. Unless you're blind, No.

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Speaker 2: I think I think with Richard Patino, you understand I've

1516
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: I've maintained this for a while. I think it's never

1517
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: been more difficult to be a head coach in a

1518
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: new place. I also think it's never been easier to

1519
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,799
Speaker 2: turn things around on years two and three. Now with Wes,

1520
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: they did move to the Big twelve year three. I think,

1521
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 2: with exceptions, the way Xavier has played this season. Look,

1522
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: they they got They've been blown out at home a

1523
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 2: couple of different times. They've they've lost some games like

1524
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: Marquette that you could argue they should have won. But

1525
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, the way that team

1526
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 2: has played, and there's a talent issue there, right, Richard

1527
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 2: Patino has been the first to acknowledge they need better players,

1528
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 2: they need more Big East players. But I think the

1529
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: way that they have played and the rate at which

1530
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: they improved when it looked like things were going to

1531
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 2: be really hopeless back in November and early December, makes

1532
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: you believe that when the talent is there, that that

1533
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 2: program is going to be in really good shape.

1534
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 4: Yeah. I truly believe it, because again I just keep saying,

1535
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 4: you don't live with rich Patinos senior all these year

1536
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 4: and not learn a lot of stuff, big time, big time.

1537
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 10: You have to assimulate, so you know, just.

1538
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 4: Kids drove in your brain so many times sitting around

1539
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 4: his dinner tables. Okay, onto the NFL, if you'll give

1540
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 4: me a minute, please from the Rams secondary is trash.

1541
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 4: I don't know what's happened, but they got to do

1542
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 4: something or they're not going to win that game against

1543
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 4: the Bears.

1544
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

1545
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 4: Because Matthew Stafford, Now he gave Bryse Young a low

1546
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 4: class on how you do it at the end the

1547
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 4: other day, which is understandable with his experience, but nonetheless

1548
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 4: that that game should not have been that close.

1549
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 2: I don't I don't. I don't really disagree. I think

1550
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: what was interesting about that game for me was more

1551
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: folks walked away from it impressed with Carolina than they

1552
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 2: were LA. And LA won the game, and I got that,

1553
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: like I felt, I felt exactly the same way. I

1554
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 2: think with the Rams, you you wonder about the secondary,

1555
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: and you always wonder about special teams. Special teams were

1556
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: a problem on Saturday. Special teams have been a problem

1557
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: all season.

1558
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 4: Yep. And I have it. Well, you've probably heard this

1559
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 4: nickname now for Caleb, it's Chaos Caleb. The more Chaotic gifts,

1560
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 4: the better Cave Caleb gifts. This guy is unbelievable. He

1561
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 4: had two of the best throws I've seen in years

1562
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,480
Speaker 4: in at one game the other day. He is unbelievable.

1563
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 4: That throw he made going to his left and his

1564
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 4: feet were off the ground and that thing.

1565
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 10: Was a start.

1566
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 4: Yes, unbelievable mode.

1567
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like. It feels like the perfect marriage

1568
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 2: of quarterback and coach with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. Now,

1569
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was higher because of his play calling acumen.

1570
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: With the Detroit Lions, it feels like and they've got

1571
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 2: some some some skill guys right, But it feels like

1572
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 2: the perfect marriage of quarterback and coach. And I think

1573
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 2: Chicago and the Rams is going to be a blast. Now.

1574
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 2: The level to which Green Bay choked I don't think

1575
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 2: should be overlooked.

1576
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 5: It is.

1577
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 2: I was listening to the Bill Simmons podcast this morning

1578
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 2: where he was rolling through the way green Bay. So

1579
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 2: the way Green Bay has lost all these playoff games

1580
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 2: with the twenty ten championship kind of right there in

1581
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: the middle. If you go back and look at their

1582
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 2: playoff losses this century, they all look and feel like

1583
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: that game on Saturday Night.

1584
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 10: I would agree.

1585
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, history doesn't lie, and I don't. I mean, so,

1586
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,560
Speaker 4: how does this so does it always end up on

1587
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 4: the coach? Is it with Bor's fault? I mean I

1588
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 4: can't believe that.

1589
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't. I didn't put that

1590
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: game so much on on the floor. I didn't put

1591
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 2: that game. But you know, I do understand how it works.

1592
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,959
Speaker 2: And while I think you watched the Green Bay Packers,

1593
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 2: they're I think what they've they've topped out at a

1594
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 2: seven seed since twenty twenty one, if I'm not mistaken,

1595
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 2: So they've they've typically been the last seeded team in

1596
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 2: the NFC. So the ceiling has been that high in

1597
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,799
Speaker 2: the regular season, and then they've lost some excruciating games

1598
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: in the postseason. Should have beaten the forty nine ers

1599
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 2: two years ago in the in the title game, you know,

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01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 2: the year before that, lose to San Francisco on a

1601
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 2: on a night where their offense just simply didn't do anything.

1602
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 2: But they've they've had some excruciating postseason losses. I get

1603
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 2: why Matt Lafleur's under the microscope. I also feel like

1604
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 2: because of what he has done with quarterbacks since Aaron

1605
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: Rodgers moved on, I think he would be I think

1606
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 2: he would have maybe not his pick of jobs, but

1607
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 2: there would be a lot of teams interested.

1608
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 4: I think. So tonight's game, well, Shanahan's got to be

1609
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 4: the coach of the year. He's doing this with the

1610
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 4: second string people. The guy that made the big play

1611
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 4: for them last night. That that defensive line one was

1612
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 4: from the Hilltoppers of Western Kentucky, which I was very

1613
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 4: proud of. So tonight's game Tech and then I know,

1614
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 4: you gotta go Texan's Pittsburgh tonight, Well, Aaron, here you go, buddy,

1615
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 4: four man rush seven deep and coverage all.

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01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 5: My good luck.

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01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how the Steelers score against him.

1618
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 2: The Texans have lost two games since Week four on

1619
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 2: the road this year, giving up fifteen and a half

1620
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 2: points a game. Second and overall defensive doa DVOA. And

1621
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 2: if you look at the Steelers, all the names they

1622
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 2: have on defense, they've They've been pretty average defensively for

1623
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 2: much of the season. I don't know how the Steelers

1624
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 2: sustain anything offensively. And even though the Texans have offensive

1625
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: consistency issues and an offensive line that isn't great, I

1626
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 2: still think they control the game. I think the Texans win,

1627
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 2: and then you know, I think the conversations about Mike

1628
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: Tomlin are interesting, and I say this objectively. Everybody understands

1629
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 2: what this man has accomplished. But we're talking about going

1630
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 2: on a decade of playoff of futility for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1631
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 2: It's a remarkably stable franchise. They've had three head coaches

1632
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 2: since the nineteen sixties. They don't just blow through coaches.

1633
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 2: But it I think the conversations about him going into

1634
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 2: next year, whether they extend him, whether or not he

1635
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 2: decides to pivot to TV, whether he decides to leave

1636
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 2: with an opportunity to go coach elsewhere based on negotiating

1637
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 2: a settlement, whether or not they fire him, whether or

1638
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 2: not they bring him back. I think are going to

1639
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,759
Speaker 2: be really interesting. I don't know how they get anything

1640
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 2: going tonight offensively, even at home.

1641
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 4: Final either and Josh. Can Josh Allen win at Denver?

1642
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 4: That's my question.

1643
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Denver's defense has been terrific for much of the season.

1644
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 2: There was some regression in the second half. I still

1645
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 2: I wonder about, you know, lack of explosiveness, lack of

1646
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 2: a downfield threat. But Josh Allen nearly scored, nearly scored

1647
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 2: on a ten yard tush push yesterday, which would have

1648
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: been one of the coolest touchdowns I had ever seen.

1649
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 4: You hate the tush push, you want outlawed.

1650
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 2: Doesn't bother me. It's a football play, don't bother me.

1651
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 4: Kind of goofy though most it's kind of anyway. I'm

1652
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 4: too I'm too old and gravy.

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01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 2: Al right, thank you, thanks for the punk. Tush push

1654
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me, Mike. Josh Allen nearly scored. They tried

1655
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: the tush push from just outside the ten and when

1656
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 2: he I'm sure you saw it. You got to the

1657
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 2: goal line. They originally ruled him in and they replay

1658
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: moved the ball back to like the half yard line,

1659
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: but nearly scored from ten yards out on a toush push.

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01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if in the history of that play

1661
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,799
Speaker 2: we have seen anything similar. If we have, I simply

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Speaker 2: do not remember. Quarter after five five point three seven

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Speaker 2: we didn't mention this on Friday Friday. We were all

1683
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 2: about Duke Tobin's press conference, the mega press conference, the

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01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 2: hour long press conference. What's interesting quickly about that as

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Speaker 2: a as a quick aside to what I was about

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01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 2: to mention in there, it was interesting to me how

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Speaker 2: many folks seem to get mad at the Duke Tobin

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01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 2: press conference, as if they legitimately expected a I don't

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Speaker 2: know a different type of message. And it was also

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01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 2: interesting to me how many folks listen to Duke Tobin

1691
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: and took him as smug or adversarial. I didn't love

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01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 2: the general message that was sent, which I thought was

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01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 2: status quo remains. We're not going to increase the size

1694
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 2: of the scouting staff. We're not necessarily going to change

1695
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 2: how we do things because hey, we've had success before.

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01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was adversarial. I didn't think he

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Speaker 2: was condescending. I didn't think he was standoffish. I didn't

1698
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 2: think he was smug. I thought he did two things.

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01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 2: One he went out of his way to mention that

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01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 2: he had traded for Joe Flacco, and the other was,

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01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to take it as defensive,

1702
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,680
Speaker 2: to take it as defensive. But he referenced what he

1703
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 2: believes are some successes and accomplishments that are on his

1704
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 2: resume or have at least happened to the Bengals on

1705
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 2: his watch as evidence as to why, you know, they're

1706
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 2: going to continue to do the things they do now.

1707
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't love that, but I didn't think Duke was

1708
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: performatively bad. I didn't think he was adversarial, didn't think

1709
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 2: he was antagonistic, didn't think he was overly defensive, so

1710
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 2: to speak. I just think he tried to use some

1711
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 2: of what he perceives as successes from the past as

1712
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 2: evidence that his way and their way is the Bengals,

1713
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 2: their way of doing things, is going to prove to

1714
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 2: be successful. We'll see ultimately if that's the case. But

1715
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 2: I thought the way some interpreted just his performance during

1716
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 2: that press conference was interesting because I sort of had

1717
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 2: a different take. We were talking before the top of

1718
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 2: the hour about the UC game. Yesterday, the Bearcats lose

1719
01:37:53,960 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 2: to UCF and last week Wes Miller's postgame shows sort

1720
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 2: of overshadowed, so to speak, the performances by his team

1721
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 2: in games against Houston and West Virginia. On Wednesday, on

1722
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 2: his Coaches show, he apologized and I talked about the

1723
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: emotional nature of his press conference, and you know, nobody's

1724
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,759
Speaker 2: happy when they lose, and he wasn't singling out anybody

1725
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 2: in particular, and that's fair. I thought his postgame yesterday

1726
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 2: with Dan and Terry was insightful. It was maybe not

1727
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 2: matter of fact, but he went out of his way,

1728
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 2: I think, to talk about some strategies towards the end,

1729
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 2: the way the game unfolded. All of that. It's it

1730
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,959
Speaker 2: would have been awesome for them to win that game yesterday.

1731
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 2: And I say this as a UC fan but also

1732
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: a fan of I don't know storylines changing. Have they

1733
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 2: won that game yesterday. Nobody's putting him in the tournament,

1734
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 2: nobody believes the season is going to be turned around.

1735
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 2: Nobody is gonna un do or unsay the things they've

1736
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 2: said about the state of in the direction of the

1737
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 2: Bearcats basketball program. But it's one thing for a coach

1738
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 2: to talk about, Hey, it's us against the world and

1739
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 2: we're going to stay together. It's something else to have

1740
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 2: something tangible that suggests that what he said is going

1741
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 2: to happen is happening. It's like the Reds making the

1742
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,600
Speaker 2: playoffs last year. Getting in is the sixth seed and

1743
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 2: losing in two games to the eventual World Series champion

1744
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 2: in real time might not be that much of an accomplishment,

1745
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 2: and after the fact might even be less of an accomplishment,

1746
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: but it is at least something you can point to,

1747
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 2: something tangible that you can point to that what you're

1748
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 2: doing is working. Wes's message as poorly received as it was,

1749
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 2: as poorly relayed as it might have been, but his

1750
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 2: message after both the Houston game and the West Virginia

1751
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 2: game was We're staying together. All the noise that's out there,

1752
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: much of which I think has been very fair, quite frankly,

1753
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 2: but all the noise out there, we don't care. Our

1754
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 2: guys are hanging in there. Our guys are staying together.

1755
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 2: That rings hollow when the losing continues. That rings hollow

1756
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: when the results aren't there. Yesterday, I think it would

1757
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 2: have been cool for the result to be there to

1758
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 2: at least say that what this coach was talking about

1759
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 2: ended up being reality. Yeah, they did hang in there,

1760
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 2: they did hang together, they didn't give up, and the

1761
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 2: effort's not been compromised. And instead it's another loss. And

1762
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 2: I I get it, man, Like nobody wants to hear

1763
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 2: about your effort when you're not winning. Nobody wants to

1764
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,799
Speaker 2: hear about how your team is taking on the world

1765
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 2: when they're losing games. I get it. But like watching

1766
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 2: the game yesterday, I thought, like, man, these these guys

1767
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 2: haven't quit yet. These guys aren't hanging it up. These

1768
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 2: guys aren't mailing it in. They do seem to be

1769
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 2: playing for each other. And have they won the game,

1770
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 2: perhaps it would have validated a lot of the things

1771
01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 2: that Wes talked about after about the Houston game. In

1772
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 2: the West Virginia game, they play Colorado on Wednesday. Decent

1773
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 2: Colorado team twenty six after five o'clock mentioned before the

1774
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin press conference. It may not have accomplished all

1775
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 2: that much, but I do I do believe this.

1776
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 4: Well.

1777
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 2: It might not have made you feel better about the

1778
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Bengals doing things differently. I thought there was a refreshing,

1779
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 2: A refreshing look into Duke's perspective. Maybe you don't find

1780
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 2: that all that useful, but I do think the dynamic

1781
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 2: that has been in play forever with this team as

1782
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 2: it relates to who the front facing people are has

1783
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,719
Speaker 2: been interesting. Zach Taylor has to talk to the media

1784
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 2: multiple times per week and at times answer questions about

1785
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 2: the thing that he's not that directly responsible for. What

1786
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 2: I think is going to be interesting now moving forward

1787
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:08,719
Speaker 2: is if what we saw on Friday becomes at least

1788
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 2: partially the norm. I don't think you're ever gonna see

1789
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin or anybody else that's not the head coach

1790
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 2: be a news conference regular, But I guess I would

1791
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: ask after kind of ripping off the band aid and

1792
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 2: doing an hour Duke Mike Katie, was that that bad?

1793
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't love the message that was. Since I do

1794
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 2: appreciate somebody delivering the message, I don't love how that

1795
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:41,640
Speaker 2: press conference made a lot of his feel about the

1796
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 2: Bengals conducting their business differently. But at least it was

1797
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 2: somebody in a position where they oversee the roster talking

1798
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 2: about how they build the roster, some of the processes

1799
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 2: that they believe have worked, and I don't think there

1800
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 2: was any real negative to what happened on Friday. I

1801
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 2: don't think could cost them any customers. I think if

1802
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 2: you were out on the Bengals, you're still out on

1803
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 2: the Bengals, Or if you were still all in and

1804
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 2: believe this team is going to fix their issues and

1805
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:13,440
Speaker 2: get it turned around. I don't think that Friday necessarily

1806
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 2: changed your mind. I don't think it did, but I

1807
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 2: guess I would ask, like Duke, was was that that bad?

1808
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:24,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it wasn't the most fun thing

1809
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 2: to do to answer questions about a season that went sideways,

1810
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 2: but everybody survived it. And it doesn't always have to

1811
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 2: be an hour long media mega conference. It can be

1812
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 2: a twenty minute Q and A. There should be more

1813
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 2: of them. Five point three seven, four nine fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: reported by a number of outlets the Reds have signed

1830
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Speaker 2: free agent right handed reliever Pierce Johnson. I don't believe

1831
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 2: the Reds have ever had a guy who has a

1832
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 2: first name of Pierce. He's thirty four years old, spent

1833
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 2: the last three years with the Atlanta Braves. Last season

1834
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 2: the area of three point zero five in sixty five games.

1835
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 2: I nearly when I was jotting down sports headlines, I

1836
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 2: nearly jotted down his win loss record. But we don't

1837
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 2: reference win loss records on the show, so I didn't

1838
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 2: do that. Reds Fest is this weekend downtown tonight. It's

1839
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 2: the final wild card game of the NFL Playoffs, the

1840
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:17,799
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers as home underdogs hosting the Houston Texans. Coverage

1841
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports thirteen sixty begins at seven point thirty. Tonight.

1842
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 2: I saw John Harball's interviewing with the Atlanta Falcons. John Harball,

1843
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 2: the obviously now former head coach of the Baltimore Ravens,

1844
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 2: is reportedly vetting teams. He has been conducting preliminary and

1845
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:42,440
Speaker 2: extensive phone calls with the Giants, Titans, Browns, Raiders, and Cardinals,

1846
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 2: but this one with Atlanta was his first formal interview,

1847
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 2: so there you go. Best of luck to him. John

1848
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 2: Harball went to Miami the Miami RedHawks twenty ninth in

1849
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 2: the AP Top twenty five Men's College Basketball Poll. Tonight

1850
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 2: it is the Richard Patino Radio Show at seven pm

1851
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 2: on fifty five KRC. Musketeers bounce back and beat Providence

1852
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. The Mark Pope Radio Show is tonight

1853
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 2: at six on ESPN fifteen thirty. The NKU Coaches Show

1854
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 2: is tonight at seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty, as

1855
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:19,799
Speaker 2: well FC Cincinnati News. On the eve of preseason training

1856
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,759
Speaker 2: getting underway, the Orange and Blue assigned forward Tim Barlow

1857
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 2: Tom Barlow, not Tim Tom Barlow, to a contract to

1858
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty seven season. He's thirty years old. It's

1859
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 2: been the last couple of years with the Chicago Fire.

1860
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 2: Fifty MLS regular season game scored five goals. Reading this

1861
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:40,759
Speaker 2: from Queen City Press, which is the newsletter that Laurel

1862
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 2: Faylor does, that is so so very good. And the

1863
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:48,680
Speaker 2: Columbus Blue Jackets have fired their head coach, the Jackets

1864
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 2: moving on from Dean Evanson as well as assistant coach

1865
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 2: Steve McCarthy, and they have hired Rick Bonus as the

1866
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 2: team's head coach, most recently served as the head coach

1867
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 2: of the Winnipeg jack prior to that, two plus seasons

1868
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 2: with the Dallas Stars took them to the Stanley Cup

1869
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: Final in twenty twenty. The Columbus Blue Jackets have had

1870
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm doing this like off the top of my head,

1871
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 2: like ten head coaches in their existence. Their existence only

1872
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 2: goes back a little bit more than a quarter of

1873
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 2: a century. Like they had Todd Richards for a couple

1874
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 2: of years and he was okay. They had our guy

1875
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 2: towards front of the show, John Tortorella, for four and

1876
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 2: a half five years. Beyond that, it has felt like

1877
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 2: they hire a new head coach every other year. Sometimes

1878
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 2: the head coach they hired and never coaches a game,

1879
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 2: like they hired Mike Babcock and then the players didn't

1880
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 2: like him because he wanted to see their cell phones.

1881
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 2: Columbus Blue Jackets in last place in the Metropolitan Division,

1882
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 2: trying a new head coach, which has been there. They

1883
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 2: do not seem like the most well run organization. I

1884
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 2: say this as a very casual fan, but they do

1885
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 2: not seem like the most well run and stable organization.

1886
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:06,759
Speaker 2: But they do have cool looking here twenty four away

1887
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 2: from six o'clock five point three, seven four nine, fifteen thirty.

1888
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 2: We did not get to a pulp question today. What

1889
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 2: are we doing? No pulp question at MOGAR got to

1890
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 2: come up with one very quickly thanks to United Heartland Insurance.

1891
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 2: Make sure you go to uhi ns dot com. It's interesting.

1892
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin took the mic on Friday and has been

1893
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 2: in everybody's cross crossairs for you know, the last number

1894
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 2: of months. This has been one of the more interesting

1895
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 2: Bengal seasons because it feels like this is the first

1896
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 2: time that public iyre is being aimed at Duke Tobin,

1897
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 2: who has often operated whether it's been in times good

1898
01:48:52,320 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 2: or bad, in anonymity not so much anymore. Duke Tobin

1899
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 2: and Zach Taylor often get lumped in with each other,

1900
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 2: Duke and Zach. They're bringing back both. I kind of

1901
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: separate the two, and I'm probably in the minority here.

1902
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 2: I feel lukewarm about Zach Taylor. Where I don't think

1903
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 2: he's a clown show of a coach, I also don't

1904
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 2: think he's one of the elite coaches in the sport.

1905
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 2: It would be unsurprising to me if the Bengals moved

1906
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 2: on from Zach Taylor to see him get interviewed elsewhere.

1907
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 2: Part of that is a reflection of the market and

1908
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 2: the sheer number of teams that every year seem to

1909
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:37,600
Speaker 2: have openings. This year, we're swapping out a quarter of

1910
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 2: the league, if not more. Based on things that happen

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Speaker 2: here over the next couple of weekends, it wouldn't surprise

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Speaker 2: me if the Bengals moved on from Zach Taylor, if

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Speaker 2: he got interviews, experience head coach has been to a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl like it would be unsurprised. It would also

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Speaker 2: be unsurprising to me if Zach Taylor got let go

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Speaker 2: and he didn't get another chance to be a head coach.

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Speaker 2: I think the league probably looks at him luke warmly,

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Speaker 2: so to speak. But I do as I've watched the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Like Number one, I guess there's two Bengals ish takeaways.

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Speaker 2: One is to look at the AFC and you see

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Speaker 2: how flawed it is. The untested Patriots who look stuck

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Speaker 2: in the mud offensively last night, the Denver Broncos, who

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Speaker 2: have an offense that is as inconsistent as any in

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Speaker 2: the sport, the Buffalo Bills, who don't have a great

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Speaker 2: downfield threat, the Houston Texans who have offensive line and

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Speaker 2: consistency issues on that side of the football, and the

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01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 2: Steelers who just have at times a dreadful offense. These

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01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 2: are very flawed teams. That doesn't mean that some of

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Speaker 2: them aren't good. That doesn't mean that whoever comes out

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Speaker 2: of the AFC isn't going to be a deserving conference champion.

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Speaker 2: But it does I think highlight the wide open nature

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Speaker 2: of this conference and how frustrating it is that the

1933
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Speaker 2: Bengals are again on the outside looking in. I also

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Speaker 2: think you could look at some of these teams in

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Speaker 2: the postseason. One of the guys who I think would

1936
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Speaker 2: have claimed to Coach of the Year is Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: The San Francisco forty nine Ers have lost a ton

1938
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 2: of players this year, lost George Kittle during the game

1939
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 2: yesterday an achilles injury. Yet they go on the road

1940
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Speaker 2: and beat the defending world champions. Now, the Eagles were

1941
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 2: a deeply flawed team, at least on the offensive side

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Speaker 2: of the football. But like Kyle Shanahan now has kind

1943
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Speaker 2: of built a brand as being a guy that just

1944
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Speaker 2: figures out a way to make do with what he's got,

1945
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 2: especially on the offensive side of the ball. He gives

1946
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Speaker 2: them an advantage. He gives his team an advantage, and

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Speaker 2: they had one yesterday. Ben Johnson gives his team an advantage.

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Speaker 2: Sche maddic developmental. I would argue to a degree mindset,

1949
01:51:55,200 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 2: there's some creativity that they have on offense, there's an advantage.

1950
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Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel might be the coach of the Year if

1951
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Speaker 2: it's not Kyle Shanahan or Ben Johnson. With Mike Vrabel,

1952
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 2: there's an aggressiveness, there's a motivational there's a toughness, identity there.

1953
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 2: He just looks like the kind of guy that just

1954
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:21,600
Speaker 2: naturally gives his team an advantage. Sean Payton's going to

1955
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Terrific offensive mind, Jamiko Ryans in Houston,

1956
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 2: terrific defensive mind. Like I think you're talking about coaches

1957
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Speaker 2: where it feels like because of philosophy or identity or

1958
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 2: just expertise on bear side of the ball, it's not

1959
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 2: that hard to articulate what advantage they give their team

1960
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Speaker 2: with Zach. As much as I focus more on the

1961
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Speaker 2: people who put together the roster, I think it's fair

1962
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 2: to wonder compared to some of those guys I just mentioned,

1963
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Speaker 2: what kind of advantage does Zach Taylor bring the Bengals?

1964
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Speaker 2: Is it schematic? Is it motivational? Is it with regards

1965
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Speaker 2: to an identity? Is it clear expertise on his side

1966
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Speaker 2: of the football? What is it? And by the way,

1967
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Speaker 2: this isn't you know, gratuitously banging on Zach Taylor for

1968
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 2: years on this show. I think it's been well established.

1969
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things I think Zach has earned

1970
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Speaker 2: credit for. Most of them feel like they're in the past,

1971
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 2: but they're there. But what advantage does Zach Taylor give

1972
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Speaker 2: the Bengals. And I'm throwing this out there, and it's

1973
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 2: not like his job is under scrutiny. He's going to

1974
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Speaker 2: be the head coach of this coming season, year number eight,

1975
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Speaker 2: whether we like it or not. But isn't that a

1976
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 2: fair way of looking at it. He is tasked with

1977
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Speaker 2: beating a lot of these guys who I think it's

1978
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Speaker 2: easy to identify with a clear advantage that they give

1979
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Speaker 2: their organization and that they give their football team. Zach

1980
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Speaker 2: has coached for seven seasons. I'm not sure the same

1981
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 2: thing is as easy to identify and articulate with him. Hey,

1982
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Speaker 2: anything you might have missed on this show, you can

1983
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 2: go get on the iHeartRadio app. We talked about the

1984
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 2: Duke Toobin press conference on Friday. We reacted to it

1985
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 2: with our friends Kelsey Conway and Robert Wintrup. If you

1986
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 2: missed either of those conversations or both, go listen to

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Speaker 2: them right now. They're on the iHeartRadio app, also on

1988
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Speaker 2: my page at ESPN fifteen thirty eight dot com. Also,

1989
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 2: we had a fun conversation. Indiana a week from tonight

1990
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 2: will play for a college football playoff national championship. I

1991
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 2: think Miami has more of a puncher's chance than they're

1992
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:47,839
Speaker 2: being given credit for. But that Indiana team. Them winning

1993
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 2: consecutive college football playoff games is not a surprise. Them

1994
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 2: winning consecutive college football playoff games with the ease with

1995
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 2: which they've won them is stunt. Offensively, they are something

1996
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 2: to behold. They're so well coached, so well put together.

1997
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 2: Indiana football is sixty minutes away from a national championship

1998
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 2: and favored over the Miami Hurricanes. We had a conversation

1999
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 2: on Friday with Olivia Ray, who knows more about IU

2000
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Speaker 2: football than anybody used to be on Channel five now

2001
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Speaker 2: does TV in South Bend. Fun conversation with her. If

2002
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 2: you're an IU fan, you want to listen to it.

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Speaker 2: It is also available on the iHeartRadio app. Podcast of

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2007
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Speaker 2: title Game a week from tonight, Wilder, Hebron and Richwood,

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Speaker 2: That's beating Missippi State on Saturday night and that airs

2023
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Speaker 2: from six to seven, right before the NKU Coaches Show.

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Speaker 2: Darren Horn's team splitting a couple of games in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: beating Milwaukee and then losing a tough one to Green

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Speaker 2: Bay yesterday. That show is seven to eight tonight on

2027
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. It is interesting and talking about the Bearcats,

2028
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Speaker 2: where it's been seven years since you see played in

2029
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Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament in twenty twenty, John Brandon's first year.

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Speaker 2: Obviously COVID canceled the tournament. We don't know they I

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Speaker 2: think they were in a position where had they won

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Speaker 2: the conference tournament game that they were supposed to play

2033
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Speaker 2: and against either UCF or USF, they get in. But

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01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 2: that was very much up in the air. They were

2035
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Speaker 2: the quintessential bubble team that season. Twenty one didn't come close,

2036
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Speaker 2: twenty two didn't come close, and so forth. Regardless of

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Speaker 2: who the coach is next year, with patients already running

2038
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Speaker 2: very thin, imagine the dynamic next season like this year,

2039
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Speaker 2: and it's it's it's the frustrating thing. I'm sure if

2040
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Speaker 2: you're a Wes Miller, where as a coach, you're a

2041
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 2: little bit more locked in on the granular details of

2042
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 2: your team and who's getting better, who can you count on,

2043
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 2: where's improvement coming from? What adjustments can you make. If

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01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 2: you would have told me back in November that Shanabayev

2045
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 2: would be playing six minutes in games that matter in

2046
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 2: the Big twelve, I would have said, something has gone awry,

2047
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Speaker 2: And obviously that's what feels like happened here. You want

2048
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: to focus on all those smaller detailed sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: You want to smoke us. You want to focus on

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01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 2: the basketball part of this, how your team is playing,

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01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 2: what it's doing to put itself in a better position

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01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 2: to win. And all outsiders care about and understandably so

2053
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 2: understandably so is do it win enough games to have

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Speaker 2: your name called on selection Sunday? And obviously when you're

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01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 2: eight and eight, the answer is is going to be no.

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Speaker 2: But that's uh that game yesterday, each one of them,

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Speaker 2: and I started the show by saying this, each one

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Speaker 2: of those games in a vacuum can be explained, can

2059
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Speaker 2: be excused, you can rationalize when you add each of

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Speaker 2: them up. There are just some of the same recurring themes.

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Speaker 2: Lack of execution, inability to make the key play and

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Speaker 2: get over the hump, and that obviously was the case yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Obviously was the case yesterday, and losing to UCF Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: On the show, our friend Paul Danner Junior is going

2065
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 2: to be here because it's Tuesday. Paul was at the

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Speaker 2: Duke Tobin Mega Press conference. He has done what I

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Speaker 2: think is always an interesting piece, his annual Free Agent Guide,

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Speaker 2: and this is about the Bengals pending free agents for

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Speaker 2: the Athletic dot Com and it's it's always something that's

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Speaker 2: kind of provides a glimpse into the likelihood that certain

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Speaker 2: players are gonna sign. I think it's a good read.

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Speaker 2: Go read it now, because we're going to reference in

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at three o'clock talking about guys like Dalton Reisner,

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Speaker 2: Joseph Osai, and yes, Genostone. That is tomorrow at three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We are done. Make sure you stick around for the

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Speaker 2: Mark Pope Radio Show. Anything you might have missed go

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Speaker 2: find on the iHeartRadio app and have an awesome night.

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