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Speaker 2: Seven thirty one thinky about Karsde Talks Station Happy Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: After the top of the hour news a TOOFI was

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Speaker 2: Congressman Thomas Massey, followed by Judge Ennaa, Paulatano, a couple

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Speaker 2: of my favorite Libertarians, and we're gonna hear from Jesse

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Speaker 2: Heiselding the power you sumon are on fraud in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: But without further ado, it's that time of week we

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Speaker 2: get to talk with Donovan and Neil from Americans for

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Speaker 2: Prosperita and today we got the affordability agenda and I

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Speaker 2: really like what the key takeaways are from this national survey.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Donovan and Neil. Great to have you on

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: Brian, always great to spend my Wednesday morning with you.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's a really great thing to see

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Speaker 2: this very well done survey survey and you can talk

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Speaker 2: about it public opinion strategies and what the vast majority

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Speaker 2: of people want, which confirms kind of a lot of

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Speaker 2: what my political philosophy is and it gives me kind

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Speaker 2: of confidence in being on the side of what I

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Speaker 2: think is right. We're talking cost of living and we're

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Speaker 2: talking about what voters believe about government and whether government's

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Speaker 2: going to solve our problems, make things easier or harder.

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Speaker 2: And the bottom line is, I like what I see

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Speaker 2: if we can just translate these numbers into people waking

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Speaker 2: up and realizing what they want is the antithesis of

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Speaker 2: what the Democrats are offering.

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Speaker 1: Donovan absolutely, And I think what you oftentimes find in

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Speaker 1: midterm elections, mid cycle elections, right and supplies, the Democrats

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Speaker 2: Republicans are the.

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Speaker 1: Ones doing it right now. They bunker down and get

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Speaker 1: into a defensive posture and just try to you know,

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Speaker 1: you get in that fetal position. You're just trying to

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Speaker 1: take in coming fire and avoid you know, losing in November,

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Speaker 1: minimizing your damages in November in an election. But what

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Speaker 1: we're driving forward with the Supportability Agenda saying, here are

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Speaker 1: the things the American people want, and while Republicans are

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Speaker 1: still a control in Washington and voters are starting to

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Speaker 1: tune in and pay attention to elections, these are the

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Speaker 1: things we need to deliver on. And they're simple stuff. Brian, Right,

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Speaker 1: Energy abundance to fuel the future. We're talking about empowering

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Speaker 1: patients with their healthcare decision making off the system, reducing

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Speaker 1: what it costs to rent by find it's a home,

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Speaker 1: by cutting red tape and regulations. And then as you know,

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Speaker 1: myself and my wife with we got three kids and

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Speaker 1: they're getting older, Brian, as you know this with your

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Speaker 1: own children over the years, was food and groceries that

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Speaker 1: don't cost your whole paycheck, especially when you have teenagers

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Speaker 1: in your home consuming large amounts of food. These are

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Speaker 1: the things, right we can get out there and get

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Speaker 1: done that are big wins when it cut you know,

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Speaker 1: the pulling off firms that. So it's good policy equal

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Speaker 1: in good politics. And we got the opportunity to get

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Speaker 1: this stuff done if we just have the courage, right

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Speaker 1: or allowmakers of the courage to do it. That's what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it, b We're gonna give them the courage

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. And you know, everyday essential

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Speaker 2: the whole idea. The green agenda is intentionally causing the

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Speaker 2: price of everything to go up. It is a self

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Speaker 2: inflicted wound. Compare California to say some you know, like

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Speaker 2: I mean, things are terrible out there, all because of

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Speaker 2: the regulatory environment, which people point to as well well.

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Speaker 2: In your survey, voters believe the government action raises prices

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Speaker 2: it's nice to know the people who took this survey

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Speaker 2: it's low hanging fruit. Are the Republicans missing out on

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Speaker 2: a messaging opportunity? Because I have heard these things, and

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Speaker 2: if this is what people truly believe, I just can't

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Speaker 2: really quite fathom the whole idea that anybody to go

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's one of the things that you know,

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Speaker 1: America's Prosperity and said, hey, you know, we're the president's

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Speaker 1: But we've got to bring it all together. And that's

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't involve more government government intervention.

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Speaker 2: Oh let's pause. Bring Donovan Neil for Americans for Prosperity back,

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Speaker 2: probably have a call of action website. We can get

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Speaker 1: The Dog Station.

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Speaker 2: It's seven forty fifty five kercity talk station, Brian Thomas

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Speaker 2: with Donovan and Neil from Americans for Prosperity going through

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Speaker 2: this Affordability Agenda for America and some outstanding points in

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Speaker 2: the at least in terms of you identify first what

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Speaker 2: people's largest concerns are. You get this comprehensive national poll,

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Speaker 2: and of course, you know affordability generally speaking is a problem,

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Speaker 2: but broken down into subsets like energy, for example, and

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Speaker 2: healthcare is another one. And this sounds like a wonderful idea.

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Speaker 2: It's not like you guys came up with it, but

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Speaker 2: the whole point, school choice is kind of gaining a

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Speaker 2: lot of steam in this country, Donovan. I know you've

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Speaker 2: noticed that more and more states are allowing options for

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Speaker 2: school choice, a lot of them maybe allowing the money

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Speaker 2: to the schools. I like that, And there may be

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Speaker 2: a solution for lowering healthcare costs. Why not allow the

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Speaker 2: Americans to have control over the dollars so everything doesn't

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Speaker 2: go directly to insurance companies get the money flowing to

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Speaker 2: the individual that gives them the choice of where they

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Speaker 2: get their medical care. And that, of course would result

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Speaker 2: in more competition. Donovan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, ninety percent of healthcare spending flows through

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Speaker 1: insurance companies or government programs. And you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks I think equate insurance insurance equals healthcare. We

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Speaker 1: know that's not true, right. Insurance just means you you

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Speaker 1: you know, you pay a premium for the privilege to

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Speaker 1: you know, healthcare professionals, and then you got to kind

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Speaker 1: start to work to expand these health savings accounts. The

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Speaker 1: making strong substantial reforms to these government subsidy programs that

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Speaker 1: are draining the American economy. But what we could do

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Speaker 1: right Medicaid, medicare, and let them make those decisions about

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Speaker 1: you then begin to create a market. Right, you create

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Speaker 1: It's phenomenal policy, and I think it puts Republicans. It

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a great idea, what I mean, Donald and Neil. Also,

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Speaker 2: that God in God's name, can we get rid of

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I think in a lot of cases right,

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Speaker 1: You know, we've got a phenomenal health care system in

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Speaker 1: It's not available here, but it's available in other countries

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Speaker 1: good way to make it available to more people. And

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean letting the government take control, by the way.

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Speaker 1: It just means bringing the same market forces that have

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Speaker 1: Bring the free market to it, allow competition, allow consumers

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, you also have some policy solutions for

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Speaker 2: You deal with food and groceries, it shouldn't cost you your

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Speaker 2: whole paycheck. A whole lot of ideas and thoughts, agenda

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Speaker 2: items from Americans for prosperity and Donald and you. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you bringing at least a lot of this to

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Speaker 2: our attention this morning. Where do my listeners go to

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Speaker 2: see the entire affordability agenda for America? And what's the

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Speaker 2: call to action today? Donovan? How do we get the

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Speaker 2: any free time, because I know you'll take as little

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Speaker 1: Yep, go to Americans for Prosperity dot org. You can

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Speaker 1: look up the affordability agenda there. And then what we

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Speaker 1: need folks to do is get involved in our county chapters.

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Speaker 1: We got chapters across the state, all over southwest Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Go to Americans for Prosperity dot org. Sign up, take action,

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Speaker 1: join us. We're gonna not only save the country, but

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Speaker 2: Love your optimism, Donovan Andelan. I really will encourage my

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Speaker 2: listeners to do just that. It's Americans for Prosperity dot Org.

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Speaker 2: Great organization. They make it so easy to help out,

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Speaker 2: and I encourage all my listeners to do that to

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Speaker 2: save America. Yeah, let's get for another couple of hundred years. Donovan.

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Speaker 2: Great having you on the program. Keep up the great work,

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Speaker 2: my friend. We'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 1: Talk soon, Bryan.

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Speaker 2: It's seven forty seven right now. If fifty have KCD

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