1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, the 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: house Whisperer, custom home builder, custom home designer, and every 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: week your guide to better understanding that place where you live. 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Today on the show, it's your call Saturday morning. If 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: you're listening to the podcast. Yeah, this is the initial 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: broadcast of this episode every Saturday morning from six to 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: eight Pacific time. That's why we're able to take live calls, 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: and we are live right now. The number to reach 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: me to talk about your home eight three three two 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Ask Dean A three three. The numeral two ask Dean 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: A three three to ask Dean. It's just that simple. 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the phones in just a sec. 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: But I want to announce our first set up winners 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: of our Haunted Ghost Tour, the House whisper Haunted Ghost Tour, 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: which I just announced last segment. Don't worry, by the way, 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: the rest of you we are going to do. I'm 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: going to be given two more tickets away before the 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: show is done today, and two tickets in every hour 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: of the show tomorrow as well. So there are going 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: to be many many chances to win between now and 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: October Monday, October twenty seventh, which is the night of 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: the tour. But congratulations to Nancy and Lauren Enriquez and 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: you guys. I'm looking forward to seeing you both at 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: the Haunted House Whisper Ghost Tour of the historic Kellogg House. 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: So more on that when we get back to giving 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: away another couple of tickets. You hang tight, all and 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: by the way, yeah, the board's just exploded. So it's 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: nice to know that everybody got a bunch of adults 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: out there who are are looking for some interesting Halloween 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: adult fund. It's not spo well, I'm not gonna say 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: it's not spooky, it's not scary. It's not a it's 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: not a haunted house like that you know, with people 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: jumping out at you. It's a it's an actual house 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: that's reportedly haunted and it's a custom home from eight 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: from the eighteen eighteen ninety eight, I believe, and more 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: on that actually next not tomorrow, but next Sunday. My 39 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: very own sister, who is a docent there, Darcy Anderson, 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: is going to be in studio with me. We're going 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: to be talking about the historicity of that house and 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: what life was like in Orange County and the eighteen 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: hundreds and so on. It's going to be great. We're 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: just we're just having some fun, that's all. There's no 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: other point to this other than we're having some fun 46 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: and we want you to be a part of it. 47 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: All right, it's time to go back to the phones. 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: I want to talk to Nicole. Hey, Nicole, welcome. 49 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: Home, Thank you, Dean. I have a home that was 50 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: built in the fifties, so made with plaster on the 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: ceilings and walls and so forth. We remove the popcorn 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: ceiling many years ago, and so now we have a 53 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: very large crack going through the middle of the ceiling. 54 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: We've had multiple people attempt to fix it, but it 55 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: has not worked thus far. So any ideas on your part? 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me ask you some info about this 57 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: large crack. So is it out in the middle of 58 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: the room? 59 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: Yes? 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: Okay? Is it and when we say large, we mean 61 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: long or is it like separating And there's like, you know, 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: stuff from the attic falling through. 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: No long, long. 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: Long, nice long crack? And what has tell me what 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 2: has been attempted to fix it thus far? 66 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: All right, So we've had a multiple I guess you 67 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: would call them handyman or part time contractor so to speak, 68 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: kind of work as far as getting it out by 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: making it a little bit bigger, putting in a fixative, 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: you know, like an expanding putting I guess, tape over it, 71 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: and then painting across it. But it still just keeps breaking. 72 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: Open, still keeps breaking open. How big is the room 73 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: that this crack is in. 74 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: It's a smaller house, so I don't know, maybe fourteen 75 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: by fourteen, I'm guessing. 76 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: Okay, So here is here's what's typical Nicole, And I'm 77 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: not going I'm assuming this crack is probably pretty near 78 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: the center of the room, running the length of the 79 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: roo the correct Okay, So what this is, it's what 80 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: we call a deflection crack. Okay. In other words, the 81 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: the the ceiling joists are spanning the width of the room, 82 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: and they have, you know, started to sag a little bit. 83 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: Not in any any way that's a danger in any way, 84 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: shape or form to the structure of the house. It's 85 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: just you know, nineteen fifties, you know, they're they've the 86 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: bones are getting a little tired, and they're slumping a 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: little bit. So they're they're sagging, they're deflecting, and they're 88 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: deflecting downwards, and there is movement up in the attic. 89 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: Whether this deflection is just what we call flee free deflection, 90 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: meaning it's just their own weight that this is happening, 91 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: or whether you know, part of the roof is braced 92 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: down or lying on top of these joys are somehow 93 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: connected to it. Anyway, they are continuing to move a 94 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: little bit. Okay, there's a tiny bit of movement imperceivable 95 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: to us, except perceivable to the crack. Because you fill 96 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 2: the crack and then the crack shows back up again. 97 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: That means that there's still deflection happening, active deflection happening 98 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: in the ceiling. So my suggestion is that we move 99 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: past the handy people in this situation and that we 100 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: actually address it in terms of, you know, bringing in 101 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: a dry wall and plaster company to take a more 102 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: serious look at it from the esthetic side. That's what 103 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: I would have done up front, just because a plaster 104 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: home it's very very strong. The walls are super strong, 105 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: the ceiling is super strong. I mean, plaster is such 106 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: a you know, it's basically a form of concrete on 107 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: the wall, unlike drywall, which is a very very soft material. However, 108 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: like concrete, plaster is brittle, so it's strong compressively, but 109 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: it's easy to crack, and it's easy to break if 110 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: you start to put a little deflection in it and 111 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: bend in it. That's why the crack keeps showing up. 112 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: So I would strongly recommend that you have a plaster 113 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: company come out, drywall company that also you know, has 114 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: experience with older plaster walls, come out and address the crack. 115 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: But while that's happening, somebody also needs to take a 116 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: look up in the attic and see if there's a 117 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: way that we can stiffen the mid span of these 118 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: ceiling joists across this room so that we minimize the 119 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: amount of movement that it's taking. And that's actually that 120 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: can sound like a weird like is that a massive 121 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: structural It's not. It's not. It's not a complex structural thing. 122 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: It could just be a few two by fours or 123 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: a few boards up there in the right place, or 124 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: moving a brace, that kind of thing. But somebody who 125 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: has an understanding of that, So a contractor with an 126 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: under standing or framing contractor carpenter framing carpenter to take 127 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: a look at what's going on up in the attic, 128 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: and a plaster company to address the actual crack because 129 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: they have ways. They can use embedded mesh to bridge 130 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: the crack and and so on. But the key is 131 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: once it's been fixed properly, which will resist a lot 132 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: of recracking. But you know, on top of that, we 133 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: actually want to see if we can stop or minimize 134 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: the deflection itself, because that is that's that's what's getting 135 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: us into trouble. 136 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: In the first you're listening to Home with Dean Sharp 137 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: on demand from KFI A M six forty. 138 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: Dang, I don't reckon, I recognize this. I can't put 139 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: my finger on it. What's happening? 140 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: What's happening? 141 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: What's happening? What is happening? Oh my gosh, Yeah, all right, 142 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: all right, you know what that's I I'm embarrassed because 143 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: I was literally talking about one of the guy last night. 144 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: We were watching a guy dance last night on video, 145 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, that reminds me of 146 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: what's happening and now here I totally forgot the Remember 147 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: they used to do those dance routines. Oh yeah, Rerun 148 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: was one of the dancers on Soul Train back in 149 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: the day. Exactly. I wonder where those guys are now. 150 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: All right, Dean Sharp, the house Whisper here to help 151 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: you take your home to the next level. Hey, by 152 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: the way, if you have a thought to yourself, you 153 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: know what I wish our house could get some you know, 154 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: more personal house whisper attention. I just need Dean and Tina, 155 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: you know, standing in our yard staring at the problem. Oh, 156 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: that can happen. You just need to go to house 157 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: whisperer dot Design to get more info. House Whisper dot Design. 158 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: All right, gonna be giving away some more Haunted Ghost 159 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: Tour tickets in just a bit. But right now it's 160 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: time to go back to the phones. I want to 161 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: talk to Viv. Hey, Viv, welcome home. 162 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 5: Hi. 163 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: Thanks. So I had some eight x seven I'm gonna 164 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 4: call them concrete slabs, but they're designed like steps coming 165 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: towards my home and they were late about a month ago. 166 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: They're mixed with a dark charcoal color. Well, because of 167 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: the recent rains that we just had here in southern California, 168 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 4: I'm starting to see some like maybe salt wines because 169 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: it hasn't been sealed. So I've been looking into a 170 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: good feller. But I realized in my research that the 171 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: state of California has a lot of VOC limits. So 172 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: I was wondering, what would you suggest to enhance the 173 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: color but not make it super glossy or slippery, that 174 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 4: is in compliance with those you know, VOC of one 175 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 4: hundred or less limitations that it has. 176 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So the easy thing, the easy way to 177 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: get around that, I don't get around it. But to 178 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: not have to juggle with the big questions there is 179 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: simply to end up at a builder supply like a 180 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, a place where concrete blocks and those kinds 181 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: of things are sold, or your local big box store 182 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: home depot lows they've got this kind of stuff too. 183 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: Whatever they've got on the shelf there has already passed 184 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: that compliance is and is good to go. I you know, 185 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: I'll throw your brand out there. It's not the only one. 186 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: There are a lot of good sealers out there, also 187 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: a lot of ones that are like, oh but I 188 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: am personally, We've never had any problem. I've been very 189 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: happy with miracle. Miracle seilants that's just the brand name, 190 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: and there are a lot of specific sealers under that 191 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: brand name, but they you know, it's not miraculous, but 192 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: that they are a really good brand and they hold 193 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: up well. Viv you mentioned something that I just want 194 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: to illustrate in kind of underscore for you and for everybody. Okay, yeah, 195 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: the salt lines. That's efflorescence. It's what that is is 196 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, the concrete from the bottom side soaking up 197 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: water from the yard, from the rains, whatever the case 198 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: may be. That water passing through the cement and it's 199 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: evaporating out of the top of the cement, and it's 200 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: leaving mineral deposits behind. The minerals don't fly up into 201 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: the air, just the water, and that's what we get 202 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: that kind of salty white streaks. So when you get 203 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: around to actually sealing this stuff, you want to make 204 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: sure that you hose all that down, brush it down. 205 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: You could take a pressure washer and just make sure 206 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: those things are brushed off, because you definitely don't want 207 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: to accidentally seal that stuff into the surface of the cement. 208 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: And then after you have cleaned it. Let me just 209 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: just double triple emphasize I want you to let them 210 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: dry out, I mean dry out like completely, because the 211 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: effectiveness of a penetrating seiler has everything to do with 212 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: if you think of the if you think of the 213 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: concrete like a sponge, which it really is kind of 214 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: a stone sponge. You know, you can't you can't add 215 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: water to a wet sponge, right, So we want that 216 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: sponge bone dry when you put the sealer on, so 217 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: it really goes in there, goes deep and does its 218 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: job of ceiling that all off. All right. Last thing 219 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: is this, These terms can get confusing, but you talked 220 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: about a color enhancing sealer. That is the key of 221 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: what you're looking for. Color enhancing. Okay. There are seilers 222 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: out there, same companies selling them called wet look okay. 223 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: And even though when we talk about color enhancing sealers, 224 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: we're really talking about permanently locking the concrete or the 225 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: stone in its you know, at that rich color that 226 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: we get when it's wet, wet look quote unquote in 227 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: sealer terminology is the thing that you don't want, which 228 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: is that literally like slick and shiny on the surface. 229 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: I don't advise anybody ever using one of those glossy 230 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: surface ceilers because water is going to keep coming up 231 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: through the concrete and it will end up pushing those 232 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: off the they yellow, they crack, they flake eventually, and 233 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: now it's really problematic. But a color enhancing sealer, it 234 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: will penetrate, it will not leave any slickness on the surface, 235 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: and it will lock in the color of the of 236 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: the concrete when it's wet without having that slick surface. 237 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: So you can get exactly what you're looking for. Just 238 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: look for color enhancing. Don't go for the wet look 239 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: sealer because that means shiny on the surface. Does that 240 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: make sense, yes, thank you. 241 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: So the Miracle filment should have the color enhancing seiler 242 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: and not the way. 243 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have the wet look and the color enhancing 244 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: and a bunch of others, so that you know, most 245 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: sealer companies have all of these versions. But I know 246 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: the one that you're looking for. It's color enhancing. Whichever product, 247 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: whichever brand you buy, it's color enhancing. If you see 248 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: the word wet look, you know, don't don't do that one. 249 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: Do the color enhancing, because that's what you're looking for. Viv, 250 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: thanks for the call, my friend. Good luck with that 251 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: properly identified the situation. I know you're on the case. 252 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: You can get it, get it resolved. You just need 253 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: to get it cleaned up and then seal it off. 254 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: All right, more of your calls when we return your 255 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. 256 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 257 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: KFI Am six forty. 258 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: Dean Sharp the House Whisper here to help you transform 259 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. All right? You 260 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: got me on that one? Is that was that Barney Miller? Nope, 261 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: that was Night Court, Night Court courtse Man. It's been 262 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: a while, some of these rates. That was a great show. 263 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: Some of these files are they're a little they're a 264 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: little rusty back there. It's been a while, been a while. 265 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: I think there's a new night Court thing out too, 266 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: isn't there. I think so, yeah, they had a one 267 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: at least within the last ten years. I think, yeah. 268 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: All right, all right, Well, Sam's playing classic TV show 269 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: theme songs as bumper music today and I'm doing okay, 270 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing okay. I think I'm at a b I've 271 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: got it. It's not straight out, but I'm doing decent. 272 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: All right. It is an all call Saturday morning. So 273 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: glad that you are here with me. I want to 274 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: get back to the phones in just a bit, but 275 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to give away a couple more tickets here. 276 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. If you're looking for some grown 277 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: up Halloween fun. Monday night, October twenty seventh, that's the 278 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: Monday before Halloween, join me and Tina for a private 279 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: VIP house whisper ghost tour of the historic Kellogg House, 280 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: a one and twenty seven year old custom built Victoria 281 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: mansion on the beautiful grounds of the Heritage Museum of 282 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: Orange County. Now, space is limited because there only take 283 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: so many people through on a tour, but for about 284 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: twenty lucky listeners eighteen now, because we've already given away 285 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: two tickets, your evening is going to start with an 286 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: hour long meet and greet with just me and Tina, 287 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: You and you all just sitting on the steps of 288 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: the mansion talking about whatever we want to talk about. 289 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: And then we're going to enter the Kellogg House for 290 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: a ninety minute tour to explore its architecture and its 291 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: history and its hauntings. And yeah, that's the thing. Are 292 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: we going to come back out alive? Yes, we will 293 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: and it's all going to be super fun. The Kellogg 294 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: House Whisper Ghost Tour is brought to us courtesy of 295 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: Haunted Orange County, Southern California's original and largest ghost tour company. 296 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: You can go to HAUNTEDOC dot com for more info 297 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: and brought to you by our very own Brand Guard Vents, 298 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: protecting homes with the finest ember proof vents made in more. 299 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: Get more info at brand guard Vents dot com. All right, 300 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: right now, call Screen or Nikki is ready and uh, 301 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: the very first Haunted Whisper House Whisper, I don't know 302 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: what they call it, House Whisper Ghosts Tour. Call that 303 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: she picks up, will win two tickets to that tour. 304 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: So ready go okay, all right, meanwhile, let's go back 305 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: to the phones, and uh, I want to talk to Lloyd. Hey, Lloyd, 306 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: welcome home, Lloyd. Are you with me? 307 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 5: Are you there? 308 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: I am here? I am here? Are you there? 309 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 6: I'm having trouble with my connection here. Yeah, I mean 310 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 6: that's got a problem here. I've got a couple of 311 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 6: redwood dicks and uh, I'm not talking to putting coding 312 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 6: on him. That looked great until spring Stars stripping off 313 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 6: and now it's uh streaking with coding here and there 314 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 6: on there, and I'm wondering what would be a good 315 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 6: lesson to that off or whatever I can do? 316 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh what what kind of a coding was on it? 317 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: Was there a brand name behind this coding or a 318 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: company that did it? 319 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 6: Uh? Deck coat was the one I got from. 320 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: Uh, I think, okay, all right, Uh Lloyd, I'm up 321 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: against a break. You hang tight, We're gonna handle this 322 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: right on the other side. Uh, Lloyd had a deck 323 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: coding put on his stuff and now there you go. Uh, 324 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: all right, take a quick break and then we're back. 325 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. 326 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: All right, this one's a giveaway, so not even gonna 327 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: worry about that. Dean Sharp the House Whisper here to 328 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: remind you that every home deserves great design. Thank you 329 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: Sam for doing lead ends with the TV show songs. 330 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: That was great. Uh you know what, By the way, 331 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: the Gilligans Island song theme song, Now this was before 332 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: my time. It was it was before my time, but 333 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: I used to watch the reruns all the time. The 334 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: uh they you know, the original song used to say, 335 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: you know, go through the list, right, Gilligan the skipper, 336 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: to the millionaire and his wife, the movie star, and 337 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: the rest. That's how it was originally written. And there's 338 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: only two more. It's not like there was a whole 339 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: list of castaways there. They literally mentioned five of them 340 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: and the rest. And so when the show got started 341 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: to air in color, they changed that to you know, 342 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: the professor and Marianne. Poor, professor and Marianne, right, I mean, 343 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: of the two people. I'm just saying that was pretty funny. Okay, 344 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: all right, congratulations too. Wait a second, I got it 345 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: here somewhere. Uh, Debbie Brocole and Peggy Dixon, who are 346 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: going to join us on the House Whisper Ghost Tour 347 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: on Monday night, October twenty seventh. Congratulations, looking forward to 348 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: seeing you ladies there. And don't worry, We're going to 349 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: be given away more tomorrow during the big show every 350 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: hour and next weekend as well, so you still have 351 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: chances to win. By the way, tomorrow's show, it's going 352 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: to be a different kind of a show. I think 353 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: you're going to enjoy it. Every year we get a 354 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: lot of very very personal questions that listeners ask and 355 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: send in, and I know actould very very personal, but 356 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: we get tons of hey can you help me with 357 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: my home questions? And then we also just get questions 358 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: about house whispering and design and where Tina and I 359 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: have come from. And so we've decided once a year 360 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 2: that we lump all those questions together and basically let 361 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: the listeners interview me via Tina who's going to be 362 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: asking the quest So tomorrow is going to be a 363 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: very kind of personal house whisper show. I think you 364 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: will enjoy it. It's going to be a lot of 365 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: fun for me, I hope, unless she asked me some 366 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: grilling questions that, you know, rip my guts out, But 367 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't think that will probably happen. So anyway, Tomorrow's 368 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: show great show. Plus we'll be giving away more more 369 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: ghost tour questions. All right, I left Lloyd hanging on 370 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: the line. Lloyd, you're still with me, Bud, I am 371 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: all right. So Lloyd has a redwood deck, couple of 372 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: redwood decks around the house, and he put a coating 373 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: on them. Uh, and then spring came around and Lloyd 374 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: and I think he used was it deck coat from Rustoliam? 375 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: Was that the product? I think it was Okay, So 376 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to pigeonhole any particular brand for something 377 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: they're not responsible for. But tell me what started it 378 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: looked great? Did you change the color of the deck? 379 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: Was it just to seal it or to refresh it 380 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: or what was the point? 381 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 5: It did change the color? And I just wanted to 382 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 5: preserve the wood there. Okay, But like I say, over 383 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 5: the winter and then comes spring, it starts stripping off. 384 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 5: So about half of what's gone I suppose now you've 385 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 5: got streaks and spots left. 386 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 6: Wondering high can get that. 387 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 5: Off and kind of restore the redwood like appearance of it. 388 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I got you, all right. So here's the thing. 389 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: And our connection is a little spotty, Lloyd, so I'm 390 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 2: just going to pop you back on hold so that 391 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: the noise of the connection doesn't come over the line, 392 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: but you can hear me. Here's the thing. It's very 393 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: similar to our earlier question on concrete ceiling, and I 394 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: just wanted to advise everybody on this that when it 395 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: comes to ceiling wood, exterior wood, it's different than furniture 396 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: ceilings inside the house, and inside the house we can 397 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: afford to and it's very nice to put polyurethane cealant 398 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: surface seilers on because we don't want, you know, a 399 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: spill to stain the wood or something like that, and 400 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: we just want to keep it fresh and clean. The 401 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: problem with doing that outside is that there's never going 402 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: to be a celant that seals everything perfectly, and moisture 403 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: is always going to find its way into a wood, 404 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 2: especially a large piece of wood like decking boards. Okay, 405 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: So again, like the concrete ceiler that I talked about before, 406 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: I don't go for I strongly advise against going for 407 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: any kind of a quote unquote sealer that leaves a 408 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: thick top coat on top of the surface, whether it's 409 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: a shiny coat on top of concrete walkways or stone outside, 410 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: or whether it is some kind of a finished top 411 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: coat on wood decking, because it is inevitable. It is 412 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: an inevitability that moisture from inside the wood is going 413 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: to start pushing that top coat off. Okay, from underneath 414 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: that is simply an inevitability. It is an impossible process 415 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: to stop. You cannot stop water wanting to go where 416 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: it wants to go. Water always wins. It's what we 417 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: call hydrostatic pressure, and it will always win. So if 418 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: you find yourself in a position and I'm thinking, maybe 419 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: it isn't deck coat that particular brand, because as far 420 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 2: as I know, the rustolium deck code is a penetrating stain. 421 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: That's the kind of stuff I actually recommend. But if 422 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: you find yourself in a position where you've a coating 423 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: has been put on a deck wood like Lloyd's, the 424 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: best you can do Lloyd at this point is maybe 425 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: get a pressure washer and get the rest of it off, 426 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: because we got to get back to unfortunately, we got 427 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: to get back to square one again. Whether that involves standing, 428 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: I hope not, okay, but for the rest of it 429 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: that's on there, we got to get the rest of 430 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: it off. And it sounds like it won't be too 431 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: tough to get the rest of it off, but it 432 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: may need a little assistance, so pressure washing it and 433 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: don't worry about penetrating the wood with extra moisture from 434 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: the pressure washer. It's just a one time thing, one 435 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: and done. But we've got to strip it all down again, 436 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: make it uniform. If necessary, maybe hit the whole deck, 437 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: both of them with a large format sander. It doesn't 438 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: have to be a lot of sanding just enough to 439 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: kind of refresh and reunify the look of the deck. 440 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: And then what I want you to use is a 441 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: penetrating seiler. And that penetrating sealer can be clear or 442 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: it can have a stain body attached to it. In 443 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: other words, you can radically change the color of the deck. 444 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: But the key is that it soaks in. It's a stain, 445 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: you know, the difference between a paint and a stain. 446 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: A paint lies on the surface and a stain penetrates 447 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: into the grains of the wood ceiling a deck, protecting it, 448 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: preserving it, extending its life and beauty outside. It's all 449 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: about penetration. It's not about what you're putting a protective 450 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: surface on because they just don't hold up. So a 451 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: really good quality penetrating seiler, and of course it can 452 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: have a stain along with it if you want to 453 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: alter the color of the wood. But that stuff is 454 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: going to soak in. There is literally nothing that can 455 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: peel off when it comes to a penetrating stain because 456 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 2: it has soaked into the grains of the wood. There's 457 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: no surface to get behind there. That's what I recommend. 458 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: And then a really good one, you know, you upkeep it, 459 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: maybe every couple of three years with you know, with 460 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: an upkeep cope and a new coat, and there you go. Lloyd, 461 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: thank you for your question. Thank you everybody this morning 462 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: for their calls and their questions. If we didn't get 463 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: you on the phone lines, call back tomorrow, let our 464 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: screener know and we'll give you fast past priority to 465 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: the front of the line. Plus we will be giving 466 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: away more Haunted Ghost Tour tickets tomorrow and tomorrow's big show, 467 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: very kind of personal House Whisperer Show, Tina on behalf 468 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: of all of our beautiful listeners going to be interviewing 469 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: me on any and or everything personal that you've asked 470 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: you know, over the last year or so. Don't miss 471 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: it nine to noon Pacific time tomorrow. Until then, get 472 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: out in this what looks to be a beautiful day 473 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: here in southern California and get busy building yourself a 474 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: beautiful life, and we'll see you tomorrow. This has been 475 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. Tune into the 476 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: live broadcast on KFI AM six forty every Saturday morning 477 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: from six to eight Pacific time, and every Sunday morning 478 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: from nine to noon Pacific time or anytime on demand 479 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: on the iHeart Radio app.