WEBVTT - Dan Carroll in for Eddie and Rocky -- 11/28/25 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:03.120 All right, be back on the Big One, seven hundred 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.520 W LW. Seems like everything's back to normal now, do it? 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.799 Dan Carroll in for Eddie and Rocky, and I certainly 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.120 hope everyone, if you're listening right now, I hope you 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.040 had a great Thanksgiving. I hope you're having a great 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.279 day after Thanksgiving. Always good to have a little chat 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.599 with Mike Allen as he's on his way out and 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.080 I'm on my way in, and Sean McMahon is running 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.160 the big board in the seven hundred WLW control center, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.400 the command center is I like to call it, so 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:32.400 we'll have time for phone calls a little bit later on. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:33.879 When you do call in, make sure you say hello 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.199 to Sean McMahon and uh five one three, seven, four nine, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.040 seven eight hundred the Big One. Normally in this spot 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.960 on Fridays, we turn it over to our buddy Richard 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.160 Skinner from Channel twelve for a little a little breakdown 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.360 on the Bengals and sports in general. And Skinny is 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:54.240 enjoying his Thanksgiving Day holiday, so special guest analyst today, 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:59.440 special guest analyt. And I would wager that he's never 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.360 been called that he's been called a lot of other things, 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.000 but special guest analysts is our old buddy wild Man 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.600 walk so wild Man? Am I right about that? Or 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.680 You've been called lots of things special guest analysts. I 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.440 don't know if that's ever happened before. That's the first, 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.160 but I like it. How you doing, buddy? Do you 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:16.880 have a good things good? 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:17.440 Doing good? 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.680 Anytime the Bengals win, it's a great day, man day. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:22.760 So let me let me ask you this. I'm watching 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.520 that game last night and I'm thinking here, I'm thinking 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:29.120 two things. Number one is, I do not recall a 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.840 time when I have seen the impact of a single player, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:39.000 especially in football, across an entire team. I think the 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.600 the energy was different. I think the approach was different. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.360 I don't know if the play calling was all that 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.320 much different, but just Joe Burrow being there I think 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.160 ignited the defense. The defense played like we have not 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.920 seen all season. And then the other thing is I 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.080 was wondering this about the offense of the Bengals. Look, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.360 I'm not an expert when it comes to analyzing offense 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.760 or especially you know NFL Football Engine, and I'm thinking 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:07.360 to myself, is this Bengals offense that much on a 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.520 Razor's edge to where it has to be executed to 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:15.680 absolute perfection in order for it to work. So when 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.440 you had Jake Browning come in, he's look, he's a 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.200 great guy, not of the same caliber as Joe Burrow. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.919 Joe Flacco is probably, you know, marginal compared to Joe Burrow. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.919 So is is Joe Burrow really And and that question 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:32.680 was asked when he went out and got hurt? Is 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.960 he really? And how can it be that? I mean, 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.560 you know how good he is, but how can it 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.840 be that that one guy is that much of a 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:39.560 difference maker? 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.560 Well, you can say the same thing when Joe Montana played, 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.200 how much he brought to the forty nine ers, Or 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.200 you can say the same thing when Brett Farr played 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.280 back in the day. He's a different animal, without a doubt. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.920 I mean, Joe Burrow, going back to last year ago, 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.240 Dan has now won eight games in a row. He brings, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.640 he he lifts up the team, and you could you 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.400 could see that the guys were playing a little bit harder, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.120 not to say they weren't playing for Joe Blaco. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:08.960 And of course the defense. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.280 Wasn't plan so great either under Joe Blaco until the 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.800 last couple of weeks. But Joe Burrow just brings a 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.000 different element to the team. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:16.200 I mean, the guy's a winner. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.320 I mean the guys the winner go back to college 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.280 and look at him, and he brought the took the 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.760 Bengals to the super Bowl. Without Joe Burrow, Zach Taylor 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.440 is probably looking for work. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.280 I think that's a good point. And this morning, I 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.280 don't hear anyone calling for Zach Taylor's head. But for 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.960 what did they lose eight out of nine when you 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.800 know when they were losing four or five six in 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.200 a row. Every time I turn on social media the 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.880 next day, I see what do I see? Fire Zach Taylor. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:49.360 Fire Zach Taylor. Fire Zach Taylor. So it seems to 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.520 me there's a lot of people in the Bengals organization 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.640 who want to literally fall to their knees and thank 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.640 Joe Burrow for saving Maybe I don't know if he's 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.560 going to be to save the season, but saving their 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.080 jobs at least for the time being. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.560 Absolutely, I mean I don't see Zach Taylor going anywhere, 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.640 you know, before this end of the season. Maybe, I 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.520 know we've got a year on his contract. His play calling, 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.760 I'm gonna be blunt with you. Still sucks. I mean 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.800 here they are down on the goal line early in 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.080 the game and second in goal and he calls three 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.040 pass plays. You don't even run the ball. You got 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.800 a guy with like like Chase Brown has been chewing 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.480 up yard is left and right the last four weeks 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.480 and they run the ball one time. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.120 I don't understand that. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.720 But we've seen this all year long. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.720 You're not gonna win many football games kicking field goals, Dan, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.760 and they've got to do a better job in the 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:43.440 red zone, and. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:44.080 Joe said that. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.360 I mean, let's just be honest here, Joe was a 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.000 little rusty, you know, at the beginning of the game, 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.240 but then, like he said, he got his feet under 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.039 him and he was able to start finding Jamar, Chase's 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:58.240 favorite receiver. And I'm not worried about Joe Burrow. It's 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.440 just said some of the play calling that drives me nuts. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.960 The defense, what more can you say about the defense? 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.360 They had like five turnovers. They played fast then, in fact, 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.280 they've looked really fast in the last couple of weeks. 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.400 I don't know what al Golden did. And of course 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:13.120 they blitzed. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.480 We haven't seen we haven't seen him blitz hardly at all, 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.320 and that really calls Lamar Jackson. He didn't know what 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.440 to do with the blitz called so al golden. Maybe 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.520 Al Goland has stumbled onto something now that we haven't 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.320 seen that he's one of the wanted. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.279 To stick with. And it's working. It's working. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.200 I mean, look at the Look at the number of 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.480 points that the defense is allowed the last three weeks. Now, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.520 this is not to say that they're gonna reel off 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.800 six more wins in a row. I mean that the 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.120 road is the road is tough. It's you know, it's 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.040 on the Buffalo, and then Baltimore comes here. Then they 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.400 got to go to Miami. Then they have those two 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.760 games against the Cardinals and the Browns, but one game 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.120 at the time, you never know. Nine and eight, if 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.080 they have to finish, I don't know they'd even get 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:54.880 some in the playoffs, stand to be honest with you, 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.200 because of the tiebreaker and all these other scenarios. But hey, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.120 right now, Joe Burrow has won eight games in a row. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.480 Last year he got on that roll. We got in, 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:04.720 but we fell shorts. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.760 Yeah, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think there 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.440 was only one sack last night, So we've seen, you know, 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.320 we saw improved line play when Joe Flacco was back there, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.920 and I don't think he can really have any complaints 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:21.160 about the offensive line play from last night. When I'm 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.400 with you, when the Bengals got that turnover earlier in 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.240 the game and it's first and goal on the two 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.320 yard on the two yard line, and they don't convert there, 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.640 they don't they you know, they ran a fourth down 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.240 play and wound up turning the ball over, which I'm 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.080 okay with, you know, putting of the other team back 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.719 in the end zone like that. But when they didn't 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.440 convert that for points, I thought to myself, great, here 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.960 we go again. Bengals have a golden opportunity, a gift 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.640 given to them, and they can't capitalize on it. And 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.520 it turned out that that wasn't the scenario that played out. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.440 Yeah, that this course technically should have been thirty six 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:01.280 to fourteen. I said, I'm thirty two to fourteen. Like 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:02.919 you said, you got to turn those opportunities in the 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:03.800 touchdowns though. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.839 And then so in that first half that they're kicking 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.880 all those field goals, I'm thinking, man, that you left 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:08.839 a lot of points out there. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.480 I mean to do that on the road, which is 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.560 tow hard and at prime time, and of course the 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.800 pressure with Joe coming back with YadA YadA, YadA. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:17.480 I mean a lot of. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.080 Things were against the Bengals as they went into that game. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.760 But I think they I think they woke up a 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.720 few people here with this, with this win. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.000 So going forward now and you talked about the road 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.760 is not going to be is not going to be easy. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.440 This it might be a little bit of a wake 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.840 up call for the teams they have coming up. And 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.360 I can see if a scenario where other teams might 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.280 have been looking past the Bengals because they just said 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.840 they're so terrible. But now with Joe, it's a different 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.040 story with Joe Burrow. And and I hate to hate, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.880 I hate to be that you know that that one 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.920 that one trick pony, or that you know that with 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:56.119 that one uh, that that one note song about Joe Burrow. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.480 But I mean it really is it really, it is amazing. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.720 And Tarika was talking about it last night on the broadcast. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.920 I mean, how it really boils down to having that 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:06.760 guy on the field. 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.680 It is I've never seen anything like as the Bengals go, 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.400 Joe Burrow goes. I just it's it's the bottom line. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.360 You can't you can't deny that they like they the 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:18.240 team plays. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:19.960 A little bit harder. There's a lot of pep in 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.680 their step going to Buffalo. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.360 I'm not worried about the benk was able to, you know, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.920 to play Buffalo because they know Buffalo, just like they 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.160 know the Baltimore Ravens. They know, they know everything about Buffalo, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.160 and Buffalo is not a world beater. I mean, Josh 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.320 Allen has won to hell of a quarterback. But the 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.839 Bengals can. The Bengals could beat Buffalo. I'm gonna say 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.200 they will, But they can beat Buffalo because they know 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.840 Buffalo and Burrow knows Buffalo and they've handled Buffalo before. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.959 Well, when you're throwing passes the way he did last night, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.440 and I found that pretty even in the in the 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.960 first half, there were some passes that I think were 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.480 writing guys hands and they didn't get caught. And yeah, 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.040 you had that one play where Tinsley sort of gave 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.160 up on that route and then decided why better try 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.960 a ball, And to my way of thinking, that should 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.600 have been six points right there. So uh. And then 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.079 Jerico says, you know, the the guy who was commentating 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.199 with to Rico says, that will never happen again with 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.160 Tinderley Garrett. Yeah, which I actually thought Gcon Garrett was 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.840 pretty good last night. I don't know if you watched the TV, 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.559 but uh, I thought that I was actually pretty good 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.480 last night doing the analysis in place of Collins Worth. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:26.360 Yeah. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.720 And then when he did give up on the ball, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.480 you saw him on the sidelines right after that. He 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:32.719 was right on the stand, but then he went back 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.600 out there. I mean, I mean he's a he's a 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.240 rook I mean, rookies make mistakes, but they learned on 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:38.280 Joe's little. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.040 Well a little the little peeve that you. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.400 Know, he got gave up on it, but then he 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.960 made a couple of other catches, you know, which which 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.679 was nice. So and now we're gonna get T Higgins back, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.000 you know, hopefully with this concussion protocol. If T Higgins 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.000 comes back, that's gonna be a big lift going into 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.120 playing the Buffalo Bills. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.320 Yeah. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. But uh, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.000 it was we'll see what happens. I really, I really honest. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.280 Going into this game, I'm thinking that Joe Burrow is 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.920 coming off the injury, he hasn't seen any action for 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.079 a couple of months. Uh, how how sharp can the 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.760 guy be? How good can it be? How much of 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.280 a difference he can make? And I think that question 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:15.280 was answered last night. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:17.760 You got that right, I mean I was. 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.839 I wasn't surprised that he was a little rusty, like 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.320 I said earlier here, but then as the game went on, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.120 and he even said it, he got his feed on 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.440 the runny got the field of the game. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:26.600 And that's Joe Burrow. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.800 So so this team going forward, they I mean they there. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.040 Do you think they? I don't know, is it? Is 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:40.320 it realistic to suspect that they can win the division 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.080 finally to get into the playoffs Because I really thought, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.560 and I and I'm I may have jumped the gun 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.240 on this, but I really thought after that loss to 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.920 the Chicago Bears that we're just going to see these 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.680 guys mail it in for the rest of the season. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.360 Well, they're three and one in the division and another guy, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.440 you know, the guys there's a lot of pride in 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.720 that locker room too. I mean, and I'll give credit 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.720 to Zach Taylor for keeping that locker room, you know tight, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.120 because you can really lose a locker room, and the 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.480 way they lost in some of those games. So I'll 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.600 give to the Zach Taylor some credit there and keep 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.760 in the locker room and even ephlicized after the game, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.080 you guys worked hard, you stayed you know, you stayed, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:18.360 You stayed with it, and. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.360 That means a lot. That means, it means a lot. 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:22.800 Like I said, if they could. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.040 Finish out nine and eight, so many things have to 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.119 go right for the Bengals to get into the playoffs. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.040 If they can finish out that way, that. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.640 The tiebreaker situation comes into comes into play. And you know, 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.319 whenever the Bengals need help, and this is going this 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.040 is going back to the last fifty years when the 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.480 Bengals really need help to get into the playoffs. It's 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.200 never worked in their favor. But let's just take one 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.559 game at a time. Let's let's hope the Bengals can 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.960 beat Buffalo and then we'll just move on from there 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.200 one at a time here because there's still plenty of 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:49.720 time left. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.160 Absolutely, we will see what happens. Wild Man, I appreciate 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.680 you taking the time to spend some time with us today. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.960 I know why you're getting ready hit the road. I 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.199 know you're getting ready to go see Indian Hill play tonight. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.280 And people may not no, but you're the you're the 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.599 PA announcer for the for Indian Hill. And man, what 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.760 a what a season their football team has had this 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.920 year and they they're in the state semi final tonight. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:10.880 Tell me about the game. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.600 Well, they're thirteen and oh and they're playing a team 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.640 called Shelby that's also thirteen and oh. So we're going 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:21.000 for hook there's that number again, win number fourteen on fourteen. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.079 Let's go on. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.760 And the one thing I really found weird, Dan and 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.240 somebody told me that the Indian Hill. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:28.880 Braves are a nineteen point underdog. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.760 I didn't know they put spreads on high school football games. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.439 But if the Indian. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.280 Hill Braves are a nineteen point underdog, that's an insult. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.840 And I'm hopefully that John Rodenberg has already made a 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.040 point to the boys. We're getting no respect. We're rolling 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.440 out of here at four o'clock. 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:44.079 We're gonna be in. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:44.840 Sydney, Ohio. 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.640 I'm bundled up, I'm ready for the cold. I've got 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.520 plenty of hot chocolate. I'm ready to rock. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:49.960 Yeah. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.720 Rodenberg's a great coach, isn't he that guy? I like 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:53.079 that guy. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:58.160 I love Yeah, He's won everywhere, He's one everywhere he has. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.920 It's great And Indian Hill is having a great season, 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.640 and wild Man you will be there tonight. So good 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.920 luck to what's Indian Hill and all the local teams 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.920 in action tonight. But wild Man, we got to run again. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.480 I hope, I hope you had a great Thanksgiving. Appreciate 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.560 the time, and appreciate you being my special guest analysts 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.439 and Bengals anytime. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.560 You know, on the flip side of the Beatles record, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.040 you know my name, look up my number. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.160 Wild Man. We'll talk to you later. Brother, have a 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.600 great night. Thanks Dan. All right, all right, there you go, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.640 the one and only wild Man Walker breaking down some 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.160 Bengals football. Let's go ahead and get a check on 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:43.119 traffic and weather together on seven hundred w wel Sean McMahon, 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.959 that is an appropriate tune to enter into this segment, 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.800 Little Pink Floyd, little Money, because we are talking about 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.240 money as it relates to high school kids. I think 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.559 I think we were all a little bit shocked when Monday, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.120 members of the Ohio High School Athletic Association voted in 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:11.240 favor of an emergency by law on name, Image and Likeness, 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.320 making Ohio the forty fifth state that would allow name 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.920 image and likeness at the high school level. And this 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.480 is look if you, I don't know if it compares 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.320 to what we have in college, but when you look 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:32.560 at college sports right now and name image and likeness deals, 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.280 the analysis runs the gamut from it. It's one of 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.640 the greatest things to ever happen that has leveled the 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.360 playing field to It's the wild wild West and nil 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.480 at the college level, it's completely out of control. So 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.240 after this referendum was passed, it didn't take long for 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.640 one state representative to step up and say, nah, blah blah, nah, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.960 I don't think we need ANIL in high school. And 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.600 that representative is Adam Bird. And Adam Bird is my 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.400 guest today on the Being Rocky Show. And Adam Bird, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:05.000 I hope you had a great Thanksgiving. How you doing, Dan, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:05.920 I'm doing very well. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.800 Thank you. It's an honor to be with you again 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:12.320 and certainly a lot to be thankful for. Uh, living 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.880 in Ohio, living in America, I'm thankful to be here. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.200 Absolutely outstanding, and I totally agree with you on that. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.040 It seems to me that the the ink didn't even 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.080 dry on this Ohio bylaw allowing nil for high school kids. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.480 And do you you've come out when sponsoring legislation that 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.040 would shut down the whole nil deal on the high 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.000 school level. What what was your thinking on this? 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.440 Well, there's a there's a lot, there's a lot that 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.880 goes into this, man. And first of all, let let's 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.400 make sure that we understand that there's a lot of 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.160 schools in Ohio that did not want this, and they 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.800 were they were talked into doing this by the o 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:53.520 HSCA to vote for it. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:54.240 Uh. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.880 Not everybody did, a lot of them did not. And 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.960 they were talked into doing this because the o HS 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.440 was afraid of one judge in Franklin County who had 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:08.560 issued a temporary restraining order. And so because of this 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:14.440 one judge, they went down this path. And so I'm 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.400 very much opposed to it, of course. And you know, 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.880 I think that high school sports, middle school sports should 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:25.480 be about teaching your physical health and fitness, your social connections, discipline, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:30.200 worked at the character, leadership, communication. Those are the kinds 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.640 of things that sports should be about in America and 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.680 we should not be We should not be changing them 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:43.480 into something that is about earning money for for certain athletes. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.600 Well, as I look at the press release that came 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.920 out from the Ohio High School Athletic Association, they talk 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.640 about how the final voting results on this, four hundred 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.280 and forty seven schools voted in favor of the referendum, 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.320 one hundred and twenty one schools voted against it, and 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.560 two hundred and forty seven schools abstained from voting. So 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.520 when you look at those schools that didn't vote and 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.720 you combine them with the schools that voted in favor 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.040 of it, I mean that's that, you know, my quick 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.000 math tells me that's about a three to one margin 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.840 that you had high schools in favor of this, and 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.640 so I and I I'm just guessing that you're you're 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.679 probably catching a fair amount of heat for taking this 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:26.960 this particular angle on this. 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.920 I am catching no heat right now, Dan, and I 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.600 would argue against something you just said. All Right, The 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.160 two hundred and forty seven schools that have stained most 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.399 likely abstained because they did not want to vary in 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.600 favor of it, and they wanted they wanted to support 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:49.720 ohsca's desire to somehow comply with this one judge. So 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:54.240 it's actually almost maybe fifty five percent in favor forty 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.600 five percent against. I think all of the schools that 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:01.760 have stained were against it, Dan. I've heard from superintendents, 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.080 I've heard from school board members. They do not like 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.440 what is going on here with OHSAA. And I will 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.400 tell you I've spoken with the director and I don't 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.400 really believe that he wants to go down this path. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.600 And I'm pretty dog on sure that the most of 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.080 the member schools that voted for this don't want to 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:20.920 go down this path either, and they felt like they 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.360 had to because of this one judge in Franklin County. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.359 And so this is again, Dan, we talked about this 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.000 before and other issues. Should we just as a legislative brand, 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.480 should we just sit by and allow the judicial branch 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.840 to make all of these decisions? And oh, by the way, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.160 it wasn't the Ohio Supreme Court here. This was one 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.480 county judge in one county in Ohio. We're going to 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:46.159 let one person make this decision, this policy decision for 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.400 the entire state, and I think that the legislature should 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.400 weigh in. Now, I don't know whether I can get 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.600 fifty votes in the House in seventeen votes in the 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.720 Senate to agree with me, but I got to at 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.280