1 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Well, the weekend is upon us. Thank goodness. Welcome aboard 2 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: at home with Gary Sullivan taking you to another weekend, 3 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: getting a few things done around the home, and our 4 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: phone number if you'd like to join us chat about 5 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: your home project, do so. It's eight hundred eighty two 6 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: three eight two five five. So this time of year, 7 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: of course, we all have plenty to do, and I 8 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: don't know, there's big projects, there's little projects, take your pick. 9 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: But one of the things I started yesterday talking about 10 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: different things. If you have a wood deck to inspect, 11 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, an annual inspection is never a bad idea. 12 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: We've been through multiple generations of pressure treated wood. Some 13 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: of these decks have been up for well, you know, 14 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: a few decades. And what kind of shape are they in? 15 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Is there rusting of the fasteners, is there cracking of 16 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: the wood, But just doing kind of a visual inspection, 17 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: seeing what things look like, see if they're still stable, 18 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: and then trying to determine if this is the year 19 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 1: you want to get a staining seiler on there. Again, 20 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the damage that happens to the wood 21 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: is twofold. It's the sun and the sun does quite 22 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: a bit of damage and the sun also dictates quite honestly, 23 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: how long that sealer is going to last. That's really 24 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: what breaks down seilers. And then moisture that lays on 25 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: a deck, not that you know it's pressure treated, but 26 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: that pressure treatment isn't all the way through the wood. 27 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: And if that wood has splintered or cracked, and maybe 28 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: water or wet leaves sit on that deck, you can 29 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: get rotting of the deck boards really quite easily. And 30 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: those things really need your eyeballs on them, really need 31 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: to be inspected and determine what needs to be done. 32 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: So you know, starting with a structural safety of your 33 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: deck is a good place to And you know, if 34 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: you if you get underneath a deck and kind of 35 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: look at the ledger board which is the connection to 36 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: the house, make sure that is in good shape. Make 37 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: sure there's no wood rot there. Make sure that the 38 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: uh maybe leg screws that are going into the wall, 39 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: that they're not rusted, that the joyshangers aren't rusted, aren't compromised, 40 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: aren't loose, and you know, again making sure the fasteners 41 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: are tight and the wood's not rotten is basically what 42 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And if it is, you're you know really 43 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: can be in jeopardy of a structural failure, and nobody 44 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: once that. We see them on the news occasionally, but 45 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: that quick, little annual check is a real good idea. 46 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: And then, of course the one thing everybody focuses on 47 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: is the decking boards. And if you've had a deck 48 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five years and you've maybe stained that thing, 49 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't know three times, I can tell you it 50 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: probably has some damage, because that's really not enough, especially 51 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: if it's in direct sunlight. So what you're looking for 52 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: here is, of course the cracked wood, the split wood, 53 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: warped boards. A lot of people don't realize when they 54 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: build a deck there is a way that you wouldn't 55 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: especially the older decks. The way the boards were laid 56 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: on the joists of the deck. There's two ways. If 57 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: you look at the end of the board, you'll see 58 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the grain. It'll be in a cup shape or it'll 59 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: be in a crown shape. So many decks that I've 60 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: been to are there's no one particular way they shouldn't be. 61 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: The crown should always be at the top. If it's cupped, 62 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: it can become a tripping hazard. But what is really 63 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: a tripping hazard is when you willy nearly lay the 64 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: deck boards down. Some are cups, some are crowned, and 65 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: then it doesn't look good and it's not safe. And 66 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm not asking to change out all the deckboards if 67 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: it's been there twenty five years, but something to consider 68 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: a if you're going to replace those deck boards or 69 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: go with a composite, and we can talk about that also, 70 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: but looking at those deck boards and taking a look 71 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: at those certainly a real good idea. Also, you know, 72 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: was that deck board screwed into the joist? Was it 73 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: nailed in. If it's nailed in, there's probably some pop nails. 74 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: And just imagine if that nail is just coming up 75 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: above the surface of the deck board and you're running 76 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: around out there with bare feet. That's a hazard, no 77 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: question about it. And then of course any softboards, bouncy boards, 78 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: rotted boards need to be looked at too. Always, rails 79 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: and railings and stairs need to make sure those have 80 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: no wobble in them, that they're solid, the ballusters are secure, 81 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: and really, when you think about it, that deck out back, 82 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: even if it's in bad shape, that's a big investment 83 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: even replacing that deck. And I know that's not everybody's 84 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: going to have to do that. But when you're faced 85 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: with that, a lot of times people, yeah, just change 86 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: out the boards on the top. That's not an easy job. 87 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: And I see people make a big mistake sometimes when 88 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: they get into that they're going to solve all their problems. 89 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: They're going to get the rotted, maybe the cupped and 90 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: crowned deck boards off there, they're going to put the 91 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: choice tape on, which is critical. Absolutely do that, or 92 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: you can get into rot into joyce. But you got 93 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: to ask yourself, if those deck boards are in that 94 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: bad of shape, and that frame now is twenty five 95 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: thirty years old, do you really want to make that 96 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: investment composite decking and put it over a frame that's 97 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: compromised just by age, that's not in as bad as 98 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: shape as the deckboards are because it's out of the sun. 99 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: It's shaded by the deck boards. But and maybe they're 100 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: secure and maybe everything's okay. But if you're putting a 101 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: composite decking that's guaranteed for twenty five years, and you 102 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: say you have a lifespan of pressure, you would about 103 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: thirty five years, forty years, and that framing is the 104 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: same age as the deck boards. Why do you sure 105 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: you want to do that? I know it sounds like 106 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: a good idea financially, but maybe it's not such a 107 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: good idea. Those are the things I want you to 108 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: inspect and then make decisions on. And all this stuff 109 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: we always talk about. Drainage around the house supplies to 110 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: deck too, to your deck. You can't have standing water 111 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: on a deck. That's something you do not want. I 112 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: mentioned that before. If you're in a direct sunlight and 113 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: that board is split and cracked and splintered, and you 114 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: know the middle or not even the middle, but a 115 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: portion of that underneath the surface that pressure tread would 116 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: is not pressure treated. A lot of people think it's 117 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: pressure treated all the way through. 118 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: It is not. 119 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: And water's pawding on that deck, and it's ponding in 120 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: that crack, and it's ponding where that wood is not 121 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: pressure treated. If it's not rotted yet, it will be. 122 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: And then just the surface condition of it itself. You know, 123 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: what kind of shape is it cosmetically? And also we've 124 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: talked about the structure end the thing, but what's it 125 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: look like is the maybe use solid color stain and 126 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: it's peeling and it looks looks terrible, or maybe you 127 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: were gonna come up with the greatest thing in the 128 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: world and you were gonna put the product on air 129 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: that is very, very thick, and you could cover the 130 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: cracks and cover up the splinters and the deck will 131 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: look new again. And I'm not here to tell you 132 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: that's a waste of money. I'm here to tell you 133 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: make sure what your expectations are with that. It does 134 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: what it says. It will cover up the cracks, it 135 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: will give you an additional probably four or five years. 136 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: But I've seen people's expectations think, I put this on 137 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: one time, I never have to worry about that deck again, 138 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: and that's not true. I've seen people build a deck 139 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: and put that on top of new wood. It's a 140 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: horrible idea. Trying to strip that off is a big job. 141 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: And that particular product. Don't get me wrong, that particular 142 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: product does what it says. But when that was brought 143 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: to market, the marketing idea on there was your deck 144 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: needs to be placed, and you're not ready to do 145 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: it yet, So put this on and get an extra 146 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: four years. Fine, if that's if that's what you want 147 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: to do. I'm fine, but don't get into the uh 148 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: like it's an answer for everything. It's not. So check 149 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: for any type of peeling stains or it's a very worst, 150 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: no stain at all, which probably is what most decks have. 151 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Quite honestly, you know you stained it. I don't know when. 152 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: You may not know when. 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Huh and uh, I use I used the 210 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 5: instead of using three quarter, I used record two by 211 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 5: six's pressure treated, yes, sir, And several years ago it 212 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 5: was getting rough, and little by little after work I 213 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: always go out and pop the nails and turn them 214 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: over and screw them back in, and that deck is 215 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: still not too bad. So of course I you know, 216 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: keep it sealed. 217 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: But sure, well that's the key, you know, that is 218 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: totally the key. So was your deck installed properly? You 219 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: heard me talking about the crowning and the cupping. 220 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Matter of fact, back then it was all wolmanized, 221 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 5: which I think is better than the stuff to have now. 222 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: Sure, oh yeah, yeah, I agree. The decking of today 223 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: not bad, but it depends what kind you get. Now 224 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: they even have ground contact pressure treated wood in non 225 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: ground contact, and that's a price game. Just get the 226 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: ground contact. You know, what leaves sitting on a deck 227 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: is kind of like ground contact. And if you put 228 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: non ground contact on a two story deck, you still 229 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: can get that motion decay on there. So yeah, ground 230 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: contact is what you want to use. 231 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, this one is just a couple of feet off 232 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 5: the ground. I replaced a couple of polls over the years. 233 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: You know they will ride out, but well yeah, wells. 234 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, when it first came out, pressure 235 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: truated wood was rated a twenty five year decking, and 236 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: that was in the late seventies early eighties. And it 237 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: also was rated that you never had to do anything 238 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: to it, which we quickly found out that's not going 239 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: to work. And I've seen it as high as fifty 240 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: but I always I like to tell people, you know, 241 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: thirty five forty years. And of course, you know, if 242 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: you really took care of it and worked on that 243 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: deck every three years, you could probably get fifty years 244 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: out of it. But I'd say thirty five. It is 245 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: a good number. 246 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 5: The joyst were all good and yep, you know it's 247 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 5: still not too bad but good. But again, I used 248 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 5: the Ruger two by sixes. 249 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: I didn't do that three quarter stuff, right right, Well, good. 250 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 5: You do, and you do the end when you cut 251 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: them you waterpoof the ends too. 252 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: Well, that's very true too, because I don't know, if 253 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: you can really look at a board, you can you 254 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: can kind of see how far that pressure treatment is 255 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: in that board and today's board, I'm telling you it's 256 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: not any deeper. In a quarter of an inch. 257 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 6: M I think this is better than that, But again 258 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 6: I'm talking yeah, you're talking to anyway, just an idea. 259 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 6: Everybody ever did it with two by six is and 260 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 6: it looks rough. Turn them over and see what happens. 261 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: Very good, all right, Joseph, thank you much for the call. 262 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And adding a caveat to that, you've 263 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: probably seen some advertisements about a joist tape. If you're 264 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: gonna do what Joseph suggests, and you're gonna flip those 265 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: boards over number one, that that can be a big job. 266 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: It depends if they're nailed or screwed. But also if 267 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: they're nailed or screwed. When you take that old one up, 268 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: there's holes all along the joyce and there's a rubberized 269 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: Joys tape that goes over the top of that joys 270 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: which makes the top of that joyce basically waterproof because 271 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: those whole may or may not be in the same place. 272 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: And if I'm putting money down on the table. I'm 273 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna say, they're not going to be in the same place, 274 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: so keep them. Water out of those older holes is key. 275 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Again no pressure treatment down in those holes, so we 276 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: want to keep water out of them or even bigger problems. 277 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: And some of the original deck nails and I remember 278 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: them well, galvanized coated spiral. They're spiral threads on there. 279 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: And after they sit in that pressure tree for wood 280 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: for a while, I'm telling you those things can be 281 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: difficult to get out. So you know, kinda what he 282 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: says is true. But don't think that I'll just flip 283 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: that board over and everything will be fine. I think 284 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: he's flipping over most of them. And again, the decking 285 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: board should have the crown up you flip over, and 286 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: they were installed right now it's cupped, and I don't 287 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: know how stable that wood is. There's been such a 288 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: difference in quality of woods over the years for decking, 289 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. Well, today we're also going to talk 290 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: a little bit about some pumps. 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Coatings 335 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: dot Com. All right, let's get back to work. What 336 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: do you say thirty three minutes after the top of 337 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: the hour, you're at home with Gary Salvin and join us. 338 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: As I've been talking about this morning, is bj Hentrump 339 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: and he is with Zalor And we all know Zalor 340 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: stands for wonderful, wonderful, great sump pumps. But that's not 341 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: all they have, Bj. How are you Gary? 342 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic today. How are you? 343 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: Just about the same way. It's nice to see spring, 344 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: isn't it? 345 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, finally yes, But it is cold, it 346 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: is It is cool. 347 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: It's still nippy. It was wonderful this week. We had 348 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: some just great weather. But spring does mean rains and uh, 349 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: I guess if you're at the Zalor punk pumpany that 350 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: means it's busy time, right. 351 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 2: It is very busy, yes, with h with all the 352 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: spring rain coming in all the areas. Yeah, we gotta 353 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: we gotta make sure we're still building those pumps and 354 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: shipping them out. 355 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: Well, you know, you bring up a great point. I 356 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: don't know what it was the last time I visited 357 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: down there at the factory and the offices or the 358 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: time before that, but unlike most manufacturing companies, you you 359 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: don't keep all your money in the bank. You keep 360 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: it in product. In other words, you have a lot 361 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: of product in case there is a lot of flooding. 362 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: Correct, that is correct. Yes, you know, as we're we're 363 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: continuously you know, building, you know, our team has you know, 364 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: quotas that we have to ensure that we always have 365 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: products on the shelf because as you never know, we're 366 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: we're going to get a big rainstorm or a hurricane 367 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: come through one of the coasts, and we just always 368 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: want to make sure we have product available to ship 369 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: out to our customers. 370 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I was talking about Zalor. I mean, 371 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: why don't you tell folks about z I'm so impressed 372 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: with your company, I really am. And I've said that 373 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: since day one when we first started getting together BJ 374 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: probably fifteen years ago now. But what a great company 375 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: folks have. Just kind of give me a maybe the 376 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: philosophy and the history of the company. 377 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zala's been around since nineteen thirty nine. Started off 378 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 2: in pop Zlar's basement making some dirty cast iron pumps 379 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: down there. And then after a few years of doing that, 380 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: you know, Mom Zollar was like, this is two dirty guys. 381 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: You got to find somewhere. You got to get out 382 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: of here, get out of the basement. So yeah, so 383 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: where we are you know when Louisville, Kentucky, over off 384 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: of Cane Run Road. Been there since the you know, 385 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: since the forties. Family owned, and yeah, I mean you 386 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: know what you could you could see if you come 387 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 2: in Zalar, whether it's in the offices, whether it's out 388 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: on the plant. You see people building the pumps every day. 389 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: You could see that people enjoy working for for Zolar company, 390 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: with it being family owned, and you know, everybody's proud 391 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: to work there. 392 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: Right right they are. We had a caller last week, Bjay, 393 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: I should have got the clip, but I didn't, And 394 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: this fellow was going on and on about your pumps. 395 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: He really was saying how wonderful it was and how 396 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: he was so happy to find it. But and that 397 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: is your philosophy, and he was super proud of it, 398 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: and he was proud he had one in his home. 399 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: And I say that because one of the things people 400 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: should do is they should know how long a pump lasts. 401 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: If we're talking about a some pump, how long something 402 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: like that. Last I was asked that. This week he 403 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: goes like, I'm going somewhere it's like nine years old? 404 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: Should I do? 405 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: Well? You know, we generally say, and it depends on 406 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: how much the pump is coming on and off, you know, 407 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: each application is different, but we generally say anywhere from 408 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: seven to ten years is a good life of the pump. 409 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: So you know, if that if that guy was, you know, 410 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: at the nine ten year mark, he should uh, he 411 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: should be prepping for potentially a new one soon. 412 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of what I told him too. 413 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: And you get the ten year mark just from a 414 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, you know, take the thread out and we'll 415 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: get into that too, but just get it replaced. And 416 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: now with smart pumps and all that, and again we're 417 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: going to get into the some pumps, backup pumps, smart pumps. 418 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: But what is a grinder pump? Oh? 419 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So a grinder pump is a pump that 420 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: you know, if you if you're having problems if you 421 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 2: have a sewage ejector so if you if you have 422 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: a you know, a home or a you know, a building, small, 423 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: you know, small building that has as a sewage waste, 424 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: if it's got toilets being flushed down into the pit, okay, 425 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: you you may need a grinder pump if there are 426 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: those things that should not be flushed down there. You know, 427 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: we always recommend against the flushable wipes, the feminine products, 428 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: the shop rags, but you never know, you never know 429 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: people's gonna throw down there. So that's what a grinder 430 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: pump is for because it's gonna be able to grind 431 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: up those items that I just mentioned, tear them up, 432 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: grind them up, and pump them up and out to 433 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: wherever they need to go with no problems. And with 434 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: the grinder pump, you don't have to worry about, you know, 435 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: the impeller like on a sewage pump being jammed up 436 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: with these materials. 437 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: Well, that's amazing. I saw one of your displays with 438 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: a grinder pump. You literally threw a pair of blue 439 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: jeans in the pit. Yep, it was unbelievable, incredible. So 440 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: is there anything you need to know about the size 441 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: and the power of a grinder pump. 442 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Zalor offers you know, quite a few 443 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: different options when it comes to grinder pumps. But you know, 444 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: if you're in a residential home, it's either you know, 445 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 2: one or two different models that are able to handle 446 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: you know, the toilet, the sinc maybe there's a bathroom 447 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: down in the basement, that sort of stuff. But we 448 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: have numerous grinder pumps that we would be able to 449 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: size up and make sure that the application is right 450 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: for that pump. 451 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Well. One thing I want to tell homeowners too is 452 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: if you're you know, tackling a project like that it's 453 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit above your skill level and you're 454 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: talking to a plumber, I can guarantee a plumber is 455 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: going to be well aware of the Zalor products. You 456 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: guys take great pride in that. 457 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: That is correct, Yes, and we do. We always recommend 458 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: you know, anytime you have you know, whether it's putting 459 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: in a new battery backup system with our are Z 460 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: controlled enabled platform that con sinue push notifications, or a 461 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: grinder pump, or you know, any anything that you're having 462 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: installed in your home, we do recommend you know, contacting 463 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: a plumber, because yes, they should very well be aware 464 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: of the Zalor pump company. 465 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: Brand new yet sure a couple questions. We always talk 466 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: about it, but you know, when it says, hey, be 467 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: prepared for rainy season. We've had a couple of gully 468 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: washers where I am already this year we had a 469 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: lot of snow that melted, so that's water. How do 470 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: you It always talks about be prepared. What kind of 471 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: maintenance does your some pump need? I guess make sure 472 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: it works. 473 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, that's that's exactly right. You know, if you 474 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: go down there, you go down in the basement, you 475 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: go to that dark side of the basement, and you 476 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: hear that noise over there. That's a good thing that 477 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: you hear that thing running. You want to make sure 478 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: that it is plugged in, you know, make sure it's 479 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: plugged in, make sure it's working. And you know, we 480 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: generally say, you know, take a bucket of water with you. 481 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 2: You know, if the pump, if you're standing down there 482 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: and you don't hear the pump working or see the 483 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: pump working, and maybe it doesn't look like there's a 484 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: lot of water in there, maybe you haven't had those 485 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: rains like we've had here recently. Just take a little 486 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: bucket of water with you, carefully port in the in 487 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: the pit down there, and then if the pump comes on, 488 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: you're good to go. It's working. 489 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: Sure, you guys got a great feature on one of 490 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: your some pumps, the plug itself where it goes into 491 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: the outlet, it clows when it's getting electricity. I mean, 492 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: that is a nice convenience. 493 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: That is, and that's one of the things that that 494 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: we we you know, when we first put it on, 495 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: you know, our first pump, you know, it was our 496 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: sixty three, you know model sixty three years ago, plumbers 497 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: contractors were like, you got to start putting that on 498 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: more pumps because it's such a help. Because the first 499 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: phone call, you know, when a homeowner's calling a plumber 500 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: and they're like, my pump's not working, the first question 501 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: could be, hey, is the light on? Do you feel 502 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: light on the plug? And if you do, that knows 503 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: that that tells you you have power at the outlet. So, yes, 504 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: we're continuously looking to add that led lighted plug on 505 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: numerous products of ours. 506 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: So buying a some pump as a homeowner listening to 507 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: us right now. There are some pumps thirteen years old. Boy, 508 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: I think I really do want to replace that? Is 509 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: there some there's obviously choices in some pumps. First, the 510 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: brand we're talking to our friends is Zalor. Uh, but 511 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: you have choices also. Can you just kind of give 512 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: me just a little brief resume of the type of 513 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: pump i'd be looking for. 514 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so in a dewatering application, you know the some pump. 515 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: We have numerous options with some pumps, and you know 516 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: we have you know, three tenths horsepower, half horse power, 517 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: three quarter horsepower, one horsepower, and it can be overwhelming 518 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: for a homeowner to know. Okay, listen, which which one 519 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: should I? Which one should I get? And that's where 520 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: you know the plumber is going to come in and 521 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: you know they're local, they know the area. They typically 522 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: know you know, how much rainfall the area gets, and 523 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: they'll be able to tell you, Hey, listen, I'd recommend 524 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: this Sollor half horse power, or I'd recommend this Zalor 525 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: fifty three, which is a three tents horsepower. 526 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: What's your best seller? Just out of curiosity the half horse. 527 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: Power, Well, I'd say I would say our number one 528 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: pump is the model fifty three, which is a three 529 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: tenth horsepower. That's the most common. Yep, that's the most 530 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: common pump. 531 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: That's kind of the good middle of the road guy. 532 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: I guess, oh, yeah, it's a beast. But then you 533 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: also have incorporated, like so many products that we put 534 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: in our home smart technology in the pumps. 535 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: That is correct. So we've talked about, you know, the 536 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: fifty three and three and the primary sump pump, we 537 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: recommend adding a backup pump with it, and we have 538 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: a few different backup pump options, you know, from you know, 539 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: the entry level stage to the one that you were 540 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: just mentioning is it's our five oh eight Fit And 541 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: with the five oh eight Fit, it comes with that 542 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: Wi Fi remote monitoring. So if your backup pump comes 543 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: on for whatever reason, maybe the primary pump's overwhelmed with 544 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 2: the influx of water, or maybe your power's out and 545 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: you're not home, the five oh eight fit controller it 546 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: can send you notifications via text via email. So it's 547 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: one of these things that you know, we want to 548 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: make sure you're able to, you know, see what's going 549 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: on with your system even when you're not home. 550 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, bj is are you seeing that category growth substantially or. 551 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: Yes, more and more people want to have something connected. 552 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: And that's where we when we did this years ago. 553 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: This is one of those things where we wanted to, 554 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: you know, get in there and say, listen, we want 555 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: to be able to help the homeowner. We want to 556 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: be able to help our customers and when they have 557 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: a problem. When I mean this is this system is 558 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: protecting your basement. It's keeping your basement from flooding. And 559 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: if you're not home and you get a text from 560 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: the power company that says your powers out, you want 561 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: to know that you have that battery backup down there 562 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 2: to protect it. 563 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: Which brings us to the next question, and that is 564 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: battery backups. Gosh, I can't imagine living in a home 565 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: with a finished basement, especially that doesn't have a battery backup. 566 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: You're exactly right, Gary, You're exactly right. 567 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: And what do we look for in that? 568 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like I was mentioned just a minute ago, 569 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: is there's a few different options. And you know, if 570 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: you find a local plumber in your area who is 571 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: familiar with our systems, which they should be the familiar 572 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: with our systems, they can go over the options, and 573 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: they'll say, listen, this is the entry level battery backup pump. 574 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't do as much flow, It doesn't pump as 575 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 2: much water out as some of the other battery backup options, 576 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: but we do have that one, so it's a little 577 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: more you know, it's a little more cost effective. But 578 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 2: you want to think about what you just said, Gary. 579 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: The two other battery backup options that we have do 580 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: pump out more water. But the main one is look 581 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: at the five oh eight fit. That's the one that 582 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: has that Wi Fi monitoring capability, right, that's the one 583 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 2: that's going to be able to send you those notifications 584 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 2: to ensure that everything's working as it should, pumping as 585 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: it should. It gives you you can pull up the 586 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: app on your phone and you can see what the 587 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: voltage of your battery is, you know, to ensure you 588 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 2: do have the correct twelve volts. 589 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: Well, I guess what a lot of folks are learning 590 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: as they listen to our conversation is the process first 591 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: can start at your website. And why don't you give us. 592 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: That zalor pumps dot com. That's z O E L 593 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: L E R pumps dot com. 594 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: All right, zalar pumps dot Com. And the next thing 595 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: is get a plumber and have a conversation. 596 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 2: Yes, And. 597 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: The questions we would ask would be like, if you're 598 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: buying anything else, if you spend some time on the website, 599 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: you're going to learn a little bit about what's available. 600 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: You're going to ask the plumber, uh, you know about 601 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: that availability? And would you say most plumbers are very 602 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: familiar with your products? Is that safe to say? 603 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 2: That is safe to say? Gary? Yes? 604 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: Very good? All right, Well that's good. That's that's wonderful. Hey, 605 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: I think our conversation has made some folks think, and 606 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: that's what the show's all about. You know, if you're 607 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: sitting in there with a pump that's you know, ten 608 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: years plus, it might be something you want to just 609 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: take a look at zalorpumpstot kind of familiarize yourself what's 610 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: out on the market, because the market is is changing, 611 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: as many products in our home are. So BJ, you've 612 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: been a great help and thank you very much. You 613 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: have a great weekend. 614 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: Gary, as usual, it's great talking with you. Thanks so 615 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 2: much for having me on. 616 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Thank you, my friend. All right, there 617 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: you go. BJ is a friend of our show, and 618 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: Zala has been a great sponsor of this show and 619 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: very timely to talk about that as we prepare for 620 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: spring rains. Our phone number if you've got a question 621 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: regarding your home, it's eight hundred eight two three eight 622 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: two five five. You're at Home with Gary Sullivan. 623 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 3: Help for your home is just a click away at 624 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 3: Garysullivan online dot com. 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We just 669 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 7: replaced an old krusty one with the Newszellar. Question I 670 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 7: have is the discharge goes up the wall, it goes outside, 671 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 7: and if you were to go outside, it comes out 672 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 7: the wall about a foot above the ground level. It 673 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 7: albows down in discharges about four inches from the house 674 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 7: on a cement walkway that slopes away from the house 675 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 7: over about twenty thirty feet. There's maybe about a two 676 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 7: foot elevation drop going away from the house. So she's 677 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 7: got really nice grading. The question I have is what 678 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 7: should what should I do? I don't think the way 679 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 7: they discharge it so close to the house is the 680 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 7: proper discharge. What should I do with that? 681 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: Well? Ideally, And you're right, it's not the proper way. 682 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: It was probably put in after the house was built. 683 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: Is that safe to say? 684 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 7: You think probably so? 685 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So they just drilled the hole, put the pipe through, 686 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: discharge it right on the foundation. Luckily it kind of 687 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: moves away from the house, so that's an added benefit. 688 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: But like I have a set up very similar to that. 689 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: My pipe discharge out of the house, elbows straight down 690 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: to the ground and then there's an underground pipe that's 691 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: discharging into right, Okay, so it's carrying it away from 692 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: the house. That would be the proper way to do. 693 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 7: It, because we were thinking of we could cut cut 694 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 7: the cement path, trench that out and put a pipe 695 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 7: and take it away from the house and maybe take 696 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 7: it to like a French drain twenty feet away, twenty 697 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 7: five feet away, yeah. 698 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean anyway to any way to move it away 699 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: from the house. I mean, it's all about that water control. 700 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: So has it caused any problems at this point, I 701 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: guess that sidewalk gets icy in the wintertime. 702 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 7: Or it does get icy in the wintertime. Yeah, we're 703 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 7: up northern Cleveland, so it does get icy in the wintertime. 704 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 7: It's in the back of the house, so it's not 705 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 7: in the front. It's not like people are traversing it. 706 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 7: But it does cause ice. But there is no water issue. 707 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 7: It's a very dry basement for a seventy year old 708 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 7: home in that they do have very good grade away 709 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 7: from the house. Yeah, but you know, anytime it's raining 710 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 7: or you see anything, you hear a kick on, you 711 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 7: see all the water pour out on the walkway. 712 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: Right right right, Well, an underground pipe is would be 713 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: the proper way to discharge that away from the house, 714 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: unless you can you know, tap into that PVC that's 715 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: coming out where the elbow goes straight down. Maybe it's 716 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: a go straight down then another elbow takes it to 717 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: the side. If there's another place to you know, get 718 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: flow away from the house and not go across a 719 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: concrete you know, sidewalk or something like that. But yeah, actually, 720 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: you know it's working okay, but it's not the proper 721 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: way to get rid of it. So yeah, I would 722 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: say going underground, you might even talk to a couple 723 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: people that do excavation work and water control, because I 724 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: wonder if you can take that same sized pipe and 725 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to cut that slab. You could pull 726 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: that pipe underneath that concrete slab and then go to 727 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: a bigger pipe. I don't know if that's possible, but 728 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: I think that's something I would check. But underground's a 729 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: way to get rid of that and you know, not 730 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: have it as a as a hazard. If you will, 731 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: thank you much for the call, David. Thank you. I 732 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: appreciate it. If you'd like to join us, do so. 733 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: Our phone number is eight hundred and eight two three 734 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: eight two five five. We'll continue with your calls. You're 735 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: at home with Gary Sullivan. 736 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 3: Start a project and don't know how to finish it? 737 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 3: Call Gary and one eight two three talk. You're at 738 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 3: home with Gerry Slid