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Speaker 1: And now it's time for Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: If by Hollywood you mean Burbank across the street promo

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Speaker 1: meaners and it's at that serves beer.

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Speaker 2: It's true. Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood. And this is

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Speaker 2: two hours of the business end of show business, the

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Speaker 2: business affairs of Hollywood. And do we have a blockbuster

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Speaker 2: show tonight, Sam. Yeah. Just as I'm getting into the studio,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting word that Rihanna's house has been her mansion,

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Speaker 2: as they're calling it, hit by at least ten rounds

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Speaker 2: of gunfire. So we will We're gonna update. So a

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Speaker 2: woman fired several shots into the Beverly Hills home a

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Speaker 2: pop star Rihanna and around penetrated a wall of the mansion,

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Speaker 2: law enforcement people say. Los Angeles Police responded to the

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Speaker 2: report at one twenty one. It's just a couple hours

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Speaker 2: ago and a thirty year old female suspect was taken

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Speaker 3: And she was home when this happened.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable, that's terrifying. According to police, the suspect fired multiple

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Speaker 2: rounds from inside her vehicle toward the celebrities home that's

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Speaker 2: called the dry by Sam No injuries were reported yet

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Speaker 2: approximately ten shots. Blah blah blah. She lives in a

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Speaker 2: colonial style mansion in the post Office neighborhood of Beverly

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Speaker 2: Hills with her partner. Do you know who her rapper

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Speaker 3: Ah, let's see. Is it asap Rocky?

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Speaker 2: You are absolutely right about that. The cup we'll share

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Speaker 2: three young children, daughter and two sons. So anyway, you know,

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Speaker 2: people aren't safe in Beverly Hills post office. Do you

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Speaker 2: know Beverly Hill's post office really means? No, it's a

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles but you use the Beverly Hills post Office

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Speaker 2: to get your mail. Oh, okay, so they don't really

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Speaker 2: live in the city of Los Angeles. They live in

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Speaker 2: I mean the city of Beverly Hills. They live in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, but it's you have a Beverly Hills zip

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like Universal Studios, how it has Universal

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's kind of like the outskirts of Hooterville,

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Speaker 2: which aren't really not part of Pixley, but you would.

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Speaker 2: I'm just lying.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been to Hooterville in so long.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I go there all the time.

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Speaker 2: What I do I think I talked about this before,

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Speaker 2: is I just go to all the MeTV channels and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff, and I just scour through. They're they're

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Speaker 2: schedule just recording one episode or maybe two episodes of

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Speaker 2: now for people who have not cut the cord, you

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of those, the ME TV stations

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Speaker 3: and all that that. They've got some pretty good channels

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Speaker 3: on there, some good stuff. There's some good shows, classics.

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Speaker 2: There's I found. I just found a new one recently

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Speaker 2: called Stony Burke start starring Jack Lord. Now Jack Lord

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Speaker 2: is from Hawaii. FI yeah, so's he's Officer mcgarrett. I

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Speaker 2: never even knew he did something before that, but he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a frontier Western you know do gooder named

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Speaker 3: So he was a frontier Western do gooder turned Hawaiian

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Speaker 2: Yes, awesome, and he those episodes that's versatility. Well, I

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Speaker 2: found one on on YouTube like if you can't find

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Speaker 2: That's what people listen to the show for. Now. This

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Speaker 2: This person is going to be you know, processed, and

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously it was her last single. I think we

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Speaker 2: we'll have more details. Now, that's not what people tune

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Speaker 2: But you know what, she's an artist. She took chances

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they thought it was Nicki Minaj's house because

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Speaker 3: Oh are they are they popping up in the news now?

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Speaker 2: Now that I think the haters are behaving badly, okay,

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Speaker 2: because there seems to be a thing where if you

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Speaker 2: always come up with something how dare you? You stand

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Speaker 2: you know, off d Auschwitz wherever they put people that

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Speaker 2: I always tell people. It's like, whatever side you're on,

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Speaker 3: That is great advice for life in general.

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Speaker 2: Like if you got a if a ten year old

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Speaker 2: And so that's why. So what you're saying is just

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Speaker 2: only two ways could be. There's more than one way.

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Speaker 2: the point. Don't sound stupid or don't sound only smart

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Speaker 2: to people who agree with you. All Right, Hollywood needs

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Speaker 2: more people like me, I think.

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Speaker 3: Sam, I think so, I think, so think.

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Speaker 2: All right, this is Joe Ascalante. We're going to take

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Speaker 2: a break and check out the traffic which I was

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Speaker 2: I b AM eleven fifty Joe'scalante Life from Hollywood. By Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: you mean Burbank. The box office, Sam, It's continues to

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Speaker 2: Now we will get to the celebrities behaving badly and

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Speaker 2: usbox office this weekend. Sam. It's a familiar pattern animation

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Speaker 2: So we got Pixars Hoppers, another animated animal. Like I

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Speaker 3: I think there's elements of it that do need to collapse,

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Speaker 3: like when we see old animated films where they try

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Speaker 3: But this movie is one that is a an original story.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you you know it's gonna be good

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Speaker 2: because pick Shar does. And I just think there's too

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Speaker 2: the kids, I guess kids have always liked talking animals. Bugs,

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. It's gonna be great because they know

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Speaker 2: stories above everything. This is gonna be You might see

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Speaker 2: this hopper, what does he see? A rabbit or some

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Speaker 3: He isn't some kind of animal. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, it's going to be good. And they dominated the

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Speaker 2: And uh, Hopper is a beaver? A beaver? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: so you know, you know who doesn't like a beaver? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everybody likes a beaver. They're industrious, they you know, they

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Speaker 2: get I mean, damn, I mean, they're they're they're they're

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Speaker 2: that this country was founded on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they there their approach to life is one

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Speaker 2: Damn it all, damnit, Wow, this gout. The dad jokes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where, I mean, where else would they come from

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Speaker 2: So Hoppers forty six million dollars in money at the

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about The Bride the what is being

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Speaker 2: and Hart are I've just broke up because Heart is

432
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Speaker 2: an alcoholic and he's an air dwell and so he

433
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: sits in there, so he watches Oklahoma and he's like this,

434
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Speaker 2: look at this schlock. You know, I just can't believe

435
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Speaker 2: how lame it is. And then he goes so he

436
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: goes to the bar early where the after party is

437
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: going to be, and so it's him talking about how

438
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: dumb Oklahoma is, but he knows it's gonna be the

439
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: biggest musical love all time. And he's always, you know,

440
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: how how much worse could it get? Because since he's

441
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: been dumped by by Richard Rogers and then then at

442
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: the same time, he's you know, trying to molest you know,

443
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: young delivery boys and things like that because he's he's

444
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: a big gay. He's a big ga on the gay side.

445
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: And uh directed by Richard Link Leader Okay known for

446
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 2: Dazed and Confused Slackers stuff like that, and Ethan Hawke

447
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: does the plays the lead role playing this guy and

448
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: you're like, this guy could win an Oscar. Then it

449
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: turns out he is nominated for an Oscar. He might win. Now,

450
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: Margaret Qually. I don't know if you've if you're familiar

451
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: with Margaret Qually, but she is hot.

452
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: I have not seen her.

453
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: No, she's in a lot of movies now, one after another.

454
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: Everyone wants her. You want Sidney Sweeney, or you want

455
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: Margaret Kually.

456
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Speaker 3: I gotta see this.

457
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: And so she plays the lovely debutante or I will

458
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: call it an agen she's kind of like an ingen new

459
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: but she's not an actress. He's more of a set decorator.

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Speaker 3: Uh not Margaret Thatcher.

461
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: No, okay, yeah, so wow, yes, So heart is in

462
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: love with her. He's in love with there and he

463
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: starts telling you to tell everybody that that that that's

464
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: his new girlfriend. Okay, even though it really it's it's

465
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: his you know, he's in the friend zone and and

466
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: he can't get he can't just can't face it, you know,

467
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: even though he wouldn't know what to do with her

468
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: because he's he's gay from space, as they say, ethan Hawk. Yeah,

469
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: gonna get an Oscar or gonna he's gonna be celebrated,

470
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: at least in my win it, but he's definitely deserving

471
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: of it. Blue Moon is one of the songs that

472
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: Rogers and Heart wrote. My Funny Valentine Lady is a tramp.

473
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Speaker 3: Classics.

474
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: Now this is a Sony Pictures classic, So unlike the

475
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 2: Big Swing of the Bride, it doesn't have to make

476
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: that much money. Yeah, it's got a modest budget. It

477
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: all takes place in one room, and except at the

478
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: beginning there's a little bit of a stage of Oklahoma

479
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma. You know, when they're talking the way they

480
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: talk about it in the movie, you just want to

481
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: see it again because it's so ridiculous. It's just so

482
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's just corny, cornstock musical, but it's going

483
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: to become like the biggest musical of all time. And

484
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: they were talking about this is what people want. Yeah,

485
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: and then like the Heart is just saying, like, I

486
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: want to do a musical based on like pol Pot

487
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: or something. It wasn't poul Pot, but he had something

488
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: like Marco Polo. He's got Marco Polo.

489
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: Aldot is a pretty interesting one.

490
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: Michael Polo. He wanted to do, uh really, and is.

491
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: There gonna be like a weird staging of Holiday in

492
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Speaker 3: Cambodia or something.

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00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: Could be could be honest, I'm there. Rogers is like no, no, no, no,

494
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna do Yankee Doodle Dandy again or something like that.

495
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: But anyway, uh, definitely worth seeing and and it's gonna

496
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: be a big thing on Oscar time. Ethan Hawke. I

497
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember him or his movies.

498
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, he is a nineties legend and he

499
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: kind of faded from from view for a little bit,

500
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: but he made a he made some pretty big comebacks,

501
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: which is great.

502
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeh, Training Day yep, before Sunrise trilogy. Those are the

503
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: ones written my thing, but usually the AI reports I

504
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: get you're usually missed the good ones that these people do,

505
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: so don't. Uh so. Yeah, it's one of those things

506
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: where like a guy does fade a while away a

507
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: little bit and then he comes back as a you

508
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: know with this just go for broke performance and gets

509
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: an oscar like that guy in like sling Blade.

510
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: Also the one that was in the Whale a couple

511
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: of years ago. Yah yeah, and Sino Man, Yes Man,

512
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: Brendan Fraser exactly that genuinely nice guy exactly that.

513
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: Or the guy that Kelly Leek guy that was Kelly

514
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: leaking bad newspaars and then like he went away and

515
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: he comes back and he gets an oscar just like that.

516
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: This is one of those roles in interesting.

517
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Speaker 3: I am definitely got my intercipe.

518
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: Saw another Academy nominee nominee this week called train Dreams,

519
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: and uh, I think let's take a break, check the traffic.

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00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: We'll come back. I'll tell you what I thought of

521
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Speaker 2: Trained Dreams and whether I can recommend it to you

522
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Speaker 2: on the Joe'sclante Live from Hollywood radio program Joe'scalante Live

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Speaker 2: from Hollywood. If my Hollywood you mean Burbanko. This is movies,

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Speaker 2: this is TV Business Affairs of Hollywood, every Sunday right

525
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Speaker 2: here on k EIB eleven fifty on your AM dial

526
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Speaker 2: to the show, and it's podcast version that happens just

528
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: a little bit after the show is over and Sam

529
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: here just spins the radio program into a podcast. Magically.

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Speaker 3: It's magical. It's a magical experience for me. And I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that that you can feel the magic come through

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Speaker 3: the speakers when you listen.

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00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. Okay, helltho a podcast,

534
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: isn't it just an MP three just someone puts somewhere

535
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: and you download it and listen to it.

536
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: Well, I have to cut it up and put stuff

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Speaker 3: in elements and stuff like that in there.

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00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, okay, anyway, Blue Moon starring Ethan Hawk,

539
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: we already talked it, but I'm gonna just reiterate big

540
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: recommendation on that one. However morally offensive it may be

541
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: some of the kids adult subjects. You don't want your

542
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: kids listening to a lot of cussing.

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00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: That tends to happen in movies nowadays.

544
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: Not a fan, but you know, what are you gonna do?

545
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

546
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: Well, we are on the radio, so we try to

547
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: avoid the whole cussing thing.

548
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good habit to get in because you

549
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: never know when you're going to be around a small

550
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: child or the pontiff.

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00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: True, and the shame is that I took three years

552
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: of Latin and the only parts of it that I

553
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: remember are the cuss words. So if I were to

554
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: start unloading that, the only person that would know what

555
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying is the Pope, and I would greatly offend.

556
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Speaker 2: Him that's not honorable.

557
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: No, no, but it usually it's usually the profanity that sticks.

558
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Well. You know, you could get a tesla and have

559
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: a Latin tutor in your in your car. You could

560
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: pick it back up. It's interesting, and then you could

561
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Speaker 2: you would never have to say that again. Train Dreams

562
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Speaker 2: is nominated for Best Picture.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that Sam Train Dreams. Yes, we mentioned

564
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Speaker 3: that that. Yeah, it's up for Best Picture. And I've

565
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: never seen it nor heard of it up until I

566
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Speaker 3: saw it was nominated.

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00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: Let's uh, yeah, I hadn't really heard it. It was nominated.

568
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: Obviously you didn't read the book. You know it's a

569
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: but ever, Okay, it's a book that's famous book. We'll

570
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: talk about it. Okay, Best Picture. Here's the nominees, Bougonia,

571
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Speaker 2: which we talked about in the show. I think I

572
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Speaker 2: gave it a thumbs out. Yeah, yeah, f one, I

573
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Speaker 2: give it a thumbs up, if you you know, if

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Speaker 2: you like bread, Pitt Frankenstein. I stopped in the middle

575
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Speaker 2: and said, I'd rather see this in a theater. And

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing it in a theater on March tenth. Oh, okay,

577
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Speaker 2: at the Century or the Cinemak Belitaria and Huntington Beach.

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Speaker 3: That's your favorite theater, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, Platinum Platinum member, thank you, thank you

580
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: very much. Hamnet. I've almost got enough points to get

581
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Speaker 2: a pair of Cinemark socks. Movie club socks.

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Speaker 3: They give you socks.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm always looking for merch in there, like you know,

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Speaker 2: Redeemed for prizes, because it's pretty odd merch, you know, weird?

585
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Speaker 3: Are they socks that they like encourage you to wear

586
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Speaker 3: during the movies when you show up?

587
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the compression socks made for christpher Nolan movies.

588
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot. I'm going to get those socks. A

589
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: lot of blood cloths can happen. I could see sitting

590
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Speaker 3: down too long through those.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we got bog f one, Frankenstein, Hamnet, Marty Supreme,

592
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Speaker 2: One Battle after another, The Secret Agent, Sentimental Values, Sinners,

593
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Speaker 2: and Train Dreams. Okay, so I have seen all of

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Speaker 2: those except for Sentimental Values, Value Whenever, and then half

595
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: of Frankenson. So far, out of this list, I haven't

596
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Speaker 2: done my Top ten for the Year list yet, but

597
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Speaker 2: out of this list, I'd have to say the best

598
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Speaker 2: one in this list, the best movie of the year

599
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: is Nirvana. The Band the show the movie. But the

600
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: best on this list, let's see from Bogognia one Frankenstein

601
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: can eliminate nuts. It's between Marty Supreme and Train Dreams.

602
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: I'd have to say, Okay, the worst movie on this list,

603
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Speaker 2: which probably will win, is the movie Sinners talked to Him.

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Speaker 2: I play golf with a gentleman on Thursday who told

605
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Speaker 2: me he walked out of it. He and his wife

606
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: walked out of Sinners. Really I wanted to, but I

607
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: had nowhere to go, so I just stayed there and

608
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: endured it. What a way my time, and so waste

609
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: the time because it's just another vampire story and nothing

610
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: new is happening. Because you've seen the vampire story the

611
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: whole time. You know exactly what's going to happen, and

612
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: they don't deviate from it enough. It's nothing's new, nothing

613
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: new and clever is happening. It's just a vampire movie.

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00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: And I don't have time for another vampire movie anyway.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Train Dreams, Wow, I just want to'll sneak up on you. Yeah.

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00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: It's a quiet American frontier drama about a railroad and

618
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Speaker 2: a log worker. Well he's like a railroad and logging worker.

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Speaker 2: It's not about a railroad. It's about a railroad and

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Speaker 2: logging worker named Robert Greenier who lives in the Pacific

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Speaker 2: Northwest in the early nineteen hundreds. The story follows Greinier

622
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Speaker 2: across decades as he watches the American West transform railroads, industry,

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Speaker 2: and modernization, slowly replacing the wilderness and the good way

624
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: of life. He knows, okay, it's it's not really like

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00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: a normal plot. In the Train Dreams, I noticed that

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00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: like something drastic happened, you know, that turned everything on

627
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: its head like a story, you know, point where you

628
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: would normally I go, what is say? That's something that

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Speaker 2: would normally happen at either ten minutes in to set

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Speaker 2: the stage or at thirty minutes to close the final

631
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Speaker 2: the first act. But it happened at like fifty minutes

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Speaker 2: into the movie. I go, all right, they're not following

633
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Speaker 2: conventional storytelling script writing patterns. And because it's less of

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00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: a plot driven movie and more of a meditation on

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Speaker 2: loneliness and work. In the Fading Frontier directed by a

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: guy named Clint Bentley, I guess he made a movie

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00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: called Jockey. I haven't seen it, sorry, And.

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Speaker 3: Was it a short film. Look up the actor that

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00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: played the lead. Okay, ah, we done. Yeah, well we

640
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: got to hit the top of the hour. But we

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00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: will be back in the next hour to finish up

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Speaker 3: the story.

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Speaker 2: All hih when we come back more train dreams. People

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Speaker 2: are clamoring for. But Joe's Goalante live from Hollywood. Joe's

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Speaker 2: Goalante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank.

646
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: This is two hours at the business end of show business.

647
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: And we do it every Sunday here on KiB eleven

648
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: fifty on your AM dial. And Sam, we've been doing

649
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: the show or I've been doing the show for twenty

650
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: years now in some form or another. Started on Indy

651
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: one oh three to one FM radio in Los Angeles here,

652
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: moved over to KiB when it was called Kday back

653
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: in the nineteen fifties, and now here it is twenty

654
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: years later KiB and I we're still doing it. Yeah,

655
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: waiting for my Marconi Award? Would you get a Marconi

656
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: Award if you do this long enough?

657
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: I think so. At least you should for putting in

658
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: this much time and effort and blood, sweat and tears

659
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: into this industry. Yes, you deserve one. You've earned one. Emotionally,

660
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: you have an emotional one. It's invisible, just like our emotions.

661
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: Thank you, that's for sure. The only awards I got,

662
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: I got it. I get a gold record every now

663
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: and then. But I got a Best Soundtrack for the

664
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Speaker 2: Independent Film Awards or something like that, Independent Records. It

665
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: just came. I didn't know it was he nominated. I

666
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: don't know. It just came in the mail. So Joe

667
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: was gon want to say, best Soundtrack Music Supervisor on

668
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: a movie, thank you? And that's it.

669
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Speaker 3: I wish I knew about it.

670
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have gone.

671
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

672
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean I imagine there was a gala or something

673
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: like that. I could have dressed up.

674
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 3: So did they say, who accepted the award? On your half?

675
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: And that's what I would like that information too. Uh.

676
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: The Vandals got an Impact Award for the Orange County

677
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Music Awards once. Okay, I don't know what that means,

678
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 2: but we went and collected it and then I gave

679
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: to my hand to Dick Dale his Lifetime Achievement Award.

680
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 2: Oh that's the Orange County Music Awards.

681
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: That's cool. That was fun.

682
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: Uh, it's fun out my award, my awards. The Sublime

683
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: is nominated for iHeart Radio Award for Best Like Song

684
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: and Best Performance, Best Performance and Best So.

685
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 3: I just saw on the TVs out here in the hallways,

686
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: you know how they run occasional promos and stuff. Right

687
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: when I was walking through there, they were showing Sublime

688
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 3: live on stage.

689
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: Oh nice, yeah, good. Finally. Yeah, if they won't put

690
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: my my image on these walls in this radio station,

691
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: at least my clients can be celebrated.

692
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: Yes, for sure.

693
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: What would they do if I put a picture of

694
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: me up on the wall with everybody else who's around.

695
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: I think we should do this and try. We should

696
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: like see how one out there, yeah, and see how

697
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: long it lasts and see like if anybody questions it.

698
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good idea. There is a guy, an

699
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: Australian TV guy who he won a contest like go

700
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: around and like a reality show in Australia, and they're

701
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: gonna say they're gonna give you a camera and you

702
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: go around and you film the stuff and you come

703
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: back and whatever you come back with that you filmed,

704
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: you're going to get a prize if you're the winner.

705
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: And this guy forgot his name, but he went to

706
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: Disneyland from Australia and he and he has his like

707
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: camera and a stick before there were selfie sticks. He

708
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: made one. He made something. So he's he's going to

709
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 2: Disneyland and he sneaks into Disneyland through a back window

710
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: in some I mean, I live here my whole life.

711
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: I've never heard of anyone successfully not too many people

712
00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: successfully breaking into Disneyland. And if they did, I just

713
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: haven't heard it. My friends, the guys in Tso well,

714
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: they broke into Disneyland once on a Monday, and that

715
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: was back in the days when Disneyland was not open

716
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: on Mondays. So they hopped the fence and they start

717
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: walking around Disneyland and they realize it's not open.

718
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 3: Nothing. There's nothing running here.

719
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: No, so they were trapped.

720
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: There's no popcorn, no nothing.

721
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: They were trapped. Yeah.

722
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: Did they have to call the police on themselves or

723
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 3: did they end up like waiting until the next morning

724
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: when somebody showed up.

725
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of people there, there's workers

726
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: and security. Okay, so they got popped. Okay, Oh yeah,

727
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: you got popped like that. You can't go to Disneyland

728
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: for a long time, so don't try that. Children. So

729
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: this guy sneaks into Disneyland. His name is John. I'll

730
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: get his name so you can look him up on YouTube.

731
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: I can't remember it just yet. But he goes a

732
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: couple of things he does. He makes a plaque. He

733
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: brings a plaque with him. It's a golden plaque and

734
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: it says Walt Disney was a reported on other Americans

735
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: to the FBI. Just said like like one of these

736
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: dark prints claims about Walt Disney. Like he he turned

737
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: in he turned in his fellow Hollywood uh uh comrades

738
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: in for to the House on American Activities in the FBI,

739
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: something like that. And he and it was like a

740
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: plaque that he that he had had sticky tape on

741
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: and he put it underneath his portrait in the in

742
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: the Walt Disney gallery on Main Street. And he said

743
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: he stayed there for two days. He said at one point,

744
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: at one point has he has a footage of an

745
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: employee polishing it. And then you know he does some

746
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: stupid things like it puts a sign on the back

747
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: of one of those Chippendale's says I el crack or

748
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: something like that. But he has a sodom Hussein doll

749
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: that he's made, and he goes on the Small World

750
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: and he places it in there.

751
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: Wow.

752
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: And then he goes on again and films it still there,

753
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, to get the full effect that.

754
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: Is hysterically funny. Yeah. So I'm sure he got in

755
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: a lot of trouble for it.

756
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: I don't know he got I mean he you know,

757
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: the Australians didn't care. They put him on TV and

758
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: they show the whole thing.

759
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm sure Australians were pleased as punch

760
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: about it. It sounds like a lot of.

761
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: Fun trouble for it. I was working at UPN at

762
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: the moment. I was trying to get him a show

763
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: on UPN. When I saw this, I go, we need

764
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: this guy. Yeah. But like most, like ninety nine of

765
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: my shows, they don't go anywhere, but a couple of

766
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: them do. Okay, let's talk about one of the best

767
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: movies now that I wasted all your time on that

768
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: Train Dreams Now, Train Dreams. I'll just read say the

769
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: description Quiet American frontier drama about a railroad and logging

770
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: guy named Robert Grainier. It stars a guy named Joel Edgerton.

771
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: He was in the Great Gatsby. He's in some Australian,

772
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: so he's another Australian and he knocks it out of

773
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: the park with this roll like you're watching it, like

774
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: I said something at fifteen minutes happens and you're like,

775
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: why is it happening at a fifteen minutes? Things are

776
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: supposed to happen either at ten minutes and ten minutes

777
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: like some they call it the inciting incident that's going

778
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: to set all the everything in motion. Then after thirty

779
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: minutes you're going to have the end of the first act.

780
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: Then after thirty minutes you're going to start the third act.

781
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: Things got to wrap up. It's got to be some

782
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: kind of a gauntlet that the hero goes through and

783
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: he almost gets it, but then he doesn't. Then he

784
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: finally does all that kind of story stuff. Joel Edgerton

785
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: is nominated for an Oscar for Best Actor for this

786
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: movie Trained Dreams, How do you Like That? Along with

787
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Rocking Phoenix, Brad Pitt, Michael B. Jordan from Sinners and

788
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: uh I think it's Ethan Hawk and Blue Moon. Although

789
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: you know, I get a lot of bad info my

790
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: my AI lists that come out. I always have to

791
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: check them but what's uh, let's contemplate Train Dreams for

792
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: a second. Train Dreams is based on a book. Okay,

793
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: the book is rather famous written by Dennis Johnson, and

794
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: it bounced around Hollywood for more than a decade until

795
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: it finally got made. So uh, but it's one of

796
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: those like if you still read books and if you're

797
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: still talking about books with other people. Dennis Johnson is

798
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: a guy who's his name comes up and uh. His

799
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: books often focus on these you know, drifters or outsiders,

800
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: addicts searching for redemption. He wrote a book that became

801
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: a movie called Jesus's Son in a Vietnam novel called

802
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: Tree of Smoke, that one the National Book Award, Pretty

803
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: good Train Dreams Perlutz serprise finalist and now an Oscar

804
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 2: nominated film. Basically, this s guy's out in the wilderness

805
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: and he's kind of It's about a quiet the quiet

806
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: life of somebody out in the wilderness in the Northwest.

807
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: They work in logging camps, they work in the railroads.

808
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 2: But what is their life like and what does it mean?

809
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: And that's what they contemplate. Now he's working in the

810
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: nineteen tens on railroads and logging okay, but he lives

811
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: to be sixty something, so pretty soon it's the nineteen

812
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: fifties and he's in the wilderness the whole time. But

813
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: he can take a train, so he goes into he

814
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: goes into town and he's seeing astronauts on the TV

815
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: screens in the in the TV shop, you know, they

816
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: have the TVs out there, and they show the news.

817
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: He sees an astronautic, what is that guy? Someone says, Oh,

818
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: it's an astronaut, and he's like, what the hell is that?

819
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: And then he sees them. He goes into a movie

820
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: theater and watches some movie and it's like, so weird

821
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: because this guy's been out in the wilderness and not

822
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: like a Jeremiah Johnson way way way. He's working. Yeah,

823
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: he's got a cabin, but he works in logging. He

824
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: works in railroads. And so if you were if you

825
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: were born in like eighteen ninety, I mean, you would

826
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: be alive in the fifties. Yeah, eighteen ninety, you're like,

827
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: just deal, you know, you're in nineteen ten. You start working.

828
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: There's no electricity, there's no in these areas. There's no telephones,

829
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: there's no television, there's no radios in there or anything.

830
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: Then pretty soon you're in the nineteen fifties and it's

831
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: the atomic age, and but you're what did your life mean? Well,

832
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 2: I mean you built the railroads, he did the logging.

833
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: You had to open up the Pacific Northwest so other

834
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: people could be like Bill Gates, they could have their

835
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: own their things. So it's it's just it's very deep.

836
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: You start thinking about what your life means, and what

837
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: your purpose is, and why you were here and what

838
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: will happen when you're gone, and why did you end

839
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: up at this time period. Some people say, Wow, we're

840
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: lucky to be live right now because we have this

841
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: and we have that. You know, maybe maybe not. But

842
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: it's really worth seeing and you can see it on TV.

843
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: I think it'll be fine on TV. Don't need to

844
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: see it in the theater, so you know, rent it

845
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: say it really really good movie. I helpe it would win.

846
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: It's better than Sinners. I mean, this movie stay with

847
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: all the movies that I just read off to you,

848
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: this is the movie that stays with.

849
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 3: Me the most.

850
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: It just stays with me and it'll stay with you.

851
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: I believe if you watch Train Dreams and the guy

852
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: Edgerton is a good looking actor, so lady's gonna like it.

853
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: There's a he's got a wife. She's uh, not bad.

854
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: You know.

855
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: I like to see beautiful people in movies. But that's

856
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: my recommendation. Oh, William H. Macy's in it.

857
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's a pretty good role.

858
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me know what you think. You know,

859
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Speaker 2: Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. My Hollywood, you mean bur Bank.

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Speaker 2: Two hours of the Business end of show Business where

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Speaker 2: we do talk about movies, TV and most of my

868
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Speaker 2: information is erroneously supplied by CHATCHIBT. But when I hear

869
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Speaker 2: I know it's wrong. When I'm when I'm reading it

870
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: again and I'm like, oh my god. The best actor

871
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: category is Leonardo DiCaprio in one Battle after another. Chatchi

872
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: BT told me he got snubbed and it's a scandal.

873
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: It just makes up things.

874
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: That's that's a scandal in and of itself.

875
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: The biggest snub, biggest snub of the year is Leonardo

876
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: DiCaprio not getting nominated for one Battle after the other. However,

877
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: he is nominated according to CNN Michael B. Jordan's that

878
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: was the only one that chatchy bt got right of

879
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: all of them for Sinners, that's the only one he

880
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 2: got right.

881
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: Ethan Hawk wasn't on there, Timothy.

882
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: Eth Ethan Hawk was Uh, it was was not no,

883
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: it said uh, Andrew Scott, I guess it's another guy,

884
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: another guy in Blue Moon. That's what That's what chatchibt thinks.

885
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: But the real nominees are Brad are not Brad Pitt.

886
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: It said Brad Pitt. Remember I looked at you, Brad Pitt.

887
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 3: That. Yeah, That's why there was like a little silence

888
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: after we mentioned it. It was like, wait a minute,

889
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: what's going on. That's why I know we got a

890
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 3: problem here. So the nominees are DiCaprio, Michael Jordan, Wagner

891
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: Mora for Secret Agents at Brazilian movie, Ethan Hawke, and

892
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: Timothy Shellamy.

893
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. So they didn't even have Timothy Sheallamy Chap Gibt doesn't.

894
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: They don't even know about it. I should tell him, Yeah,

895
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: he's a good actor.

896
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he is under a little bit of fire.

897
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 3: Maybe they're immediately dismissing him because.

898
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: Oh wait, don't you have breaking news on.

899
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, breaking news the chances of Timothy sports Chalet's Oscar

900
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 3: win for next week. Everybody was already predicting it except

901
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 3: for chat gbt.

902
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

903
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: He got in a little bit of trouble. He's having

904
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 3: a little backlash from some comments he made in an

905
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: interview with actor Matthew McConaughey. He said that basically something

906
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: to the extent of he wants to like he knows

907
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: that he has to go around and do media junkets

908
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: for different movies to try to encourage people like we

909
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 3: do here to go to the theater and help keep

910
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: the movie theater alive. And he says, eventually, oh here,

911
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 3: eventually backtrack, but uh, he was saying that he wanted.

912
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: Let's see, he basically said that no one cares about

913
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: ballet or opera artists and their performances, and so.

914
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: Did he say anything that wasn't true?

915
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Uh?

916
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: He was basically saying like how orchestra or uh, you know,

917
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: different operas and ballet performances have to go out and

918
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: do a lot of promotional stuff to try to keep

919
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 3: their industry alive. And he's like, I don't want to

920
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: see if we can do or I don't want to

921
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: do that. Have to you know, resort to doing that

922
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: with the film industry specific and then he ultimately backtracked

923
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: because and saying that you know, if people want to,

924
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: they can go and see movies like Barbie or Oppenheimer

925
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: movies that are really good. Those are gonna be the

926
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: things that draw people out to the theater. But he

927
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: was more or less saying that.

928
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: You're true yourself. And why did he say that was

929
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: not true or wrong?

930
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: Let me see, I don't think there was anything false

931
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: that he was saying. It was just his opinion.

932
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about ballet people and opera people. It's true, Yeah,

933
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: nobody cares. The government has to subsidize ballet and opera now,

934
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: uh where no one will see it or will die.

935
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm happy to have my tax

936
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: dollars go there. I wanted to die, but nobody cares.

937
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: Now.

938
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: English Opera. National Opera offered him free tickets to go

939
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: and see their show to change his mind. Seattle Operas US.

940
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: They're using his name as a promo for discount.

941
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: Tickets they're making they're making it all about them. Yeah,

942
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: and they should get over themselves. Every what, every what

943
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: he said was was true. And I'm I'm that's just

944
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, they're trying to just since he's so freaking

945
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: famous and talented and good looking, they're trying to uh

946
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: bring him down, and I want to stand for it. Anyway,

947
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: back to Best Actor, Joel Edgerton is not nominated at all.

948
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: He should be, but he's not. But chat Chept loved

949
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: Trained Dreams so much it thinks that he's the best Actor.

950
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: Interesting. I would actually want to go back to chat

951
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: Cheapt after all of this, after the awards God are

952
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: given out to see which awards chat Chept thinks everybody got.

953
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going to be accurate. No, okay, so

954
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: we did the movies. The movies were accurate. No, I

955
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: got those from another source though. Best Director Walking Trier

956
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: for sentimental value, I haven't seen it. Sorry, Chloe's out

957
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: for Hamnet and good for her. Ryan Coogler's Sinners, terrible movie.

958
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: Josh Safti, Marty Supreme, hand it over to him right now,

959
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: right now, Yeah, hand it over to him. Paul Thomas

960
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: Anderson from One Battle after Another. A lot of people

961
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: hate that movie. I loved it, But that one goes

962
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: to Safty, Best Actress. I'm just gonna roll through these.

963
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: We have other stories too, but I'm gonna kind of

964
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dip in and out of the Oscars Best Actor, Uh, DiCaprio,

965
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Wagner, Mora, Ethan Hawk, Timothy Chalomy. This is a

966
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: tough one, Chalomy. If he did shoot himself in the foot, Uh,

967
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: it will go to Ethan Hawk. Yeah, but Timothy Chalomagne

968
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: Ethan Hawk, neck and neck, neck and neck on that

969
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: one could be a spoiler Ethan Hawk, but Shalo May

970
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 2: it's his to lose.

971
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And here's the actual quote that he said. I

972
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: don't want to be working in ballet or opera where

973
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: thing where things or or things where it's like, hey,

974
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: let's keep this thing alive, even though it's like no

975
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 3: one cares about this anymore. All respect to ballet and

976
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: opera people out there. I just lost fourteen cents in viewership.

977
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: He wreck he realized he said something he wasn't supposed

978
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: to and try to walk it back.

979
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you know what I'm gonna tell you.

980
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm about Timothy Chalomagne. That I can say from first

981
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: d experience. He loves to talk. He's doing tons of

982
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: press for Marty Supreme. He's he he's going above and

983
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: beyond and he's talking. You're talking and talking, talking, appreciate.

984
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: He's going to say something you know that he shouldn't

985
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: say so. But if he did, if he did shoot

986
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: himself on the foot, Ethan Hawk is right there. Who's

987
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: going to get the best director? Okay, we got already

988
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: got that, John Safti, Josh Safti's another. This show is

989
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: just flying by Best Actress. I guess I'll do that

990
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: when I come back.

991
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, good tease.

992
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood with the winner of the

993
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: Best Actress Award for Movie Acting right after this, Okay,

994
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: Joe'scolante continuing with the Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood Radio program.

995
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I'm gonna do the Best Actress And

996
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: then to go back to my other stories, I got

997
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: some good ones. Today Sam okay, best actress renat Te

998
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: rins fe. I guess it's a Scandinavian person for sentimental value.

999
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: Emma Stone and Bougonna. She was great Rose Byrne and

1000
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: if I had legs, i'd kick you. I haven't seen

1001
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: all of it, but I saw her. Yeah, I saw

1002
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: the first dat. She's very good in it. Not gonna win,

1003
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: but very good. Jesse Buckley probably not gonna win for this,

1004
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: but will win next year for the Bride. She's also

1005
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: plays the bride of Frankenstein. Okay, and she was the

1006
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: Shakespeare's wife in Hamnet. I like that now. The fifth

1007
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 2: nominee and my favorite Kate Hudson in Song Sung Blue.

1008
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: So I was more impressed by that rule because she

1009
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: had to sing also and she she she she made

1010
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: me believe it was her nice.

1011
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: And Kate Hudson legendary at this point of her career,

1012
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: I would call her a legendary actress. So to see

1013
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: that level of versatility come out of hers pretty cool.

1014
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: Do you know who her dad is?

1015
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 3: Oh? Jeez, no, but isn't the ma. Isn't her mom Goldie.

1016
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Han, Goldie Han, But her dad Bill Hudson an American actor,

1017
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: musician and producer. He was a founding member of the

1018
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties band The Hudson Brothers with his younger brothers

1019
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: Brett and Mark. The band starred in the CBS sketch

1020
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 2: comedy series The Hudson Brothers Razzle Dazzle Show, which I

1021
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: watched every Saturday morning.

1022
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 3: You were both razzled and dazzled.

1023
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: And Razzle dazzled me. They're hideous haircuts. So he marries

1024
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: Goldie Hans still alive, seventy six years old, and he

1025
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: has a daughter named Kate Hudson, and she is an

1026
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: amazing actress. She is, Yeah, she's an nepple baby.

1027
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: I guess right, most of Hollywood is at this point.

1028
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, why not? You want to go

1029
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: away that you can bank on. Now, speaking of babies,

1030
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: let's talk about Michael Jackson. Oh boy, Michael Jackson. What

1031
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: is he up to this week?

1032
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: I would do my Michael Jackson impression right now, but

1033
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: nobody would hear anything, okay, because he's dead.

1034
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: Well, A new lawsuit hilarious with your dad jokes. A

1035
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: new lawsuit filed February twenty seventh, that's pretty recent, and

1036
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: Los Angeles accuses Michael Jackson of sexually abusing and trafficking

1037
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: four siblings over more than a decade, Sam, can you

1038
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: believe this?

1039
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 3: Wow?

1040
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: Well, these young people who are now over eighteen are

1041
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: Frank Coskio, Dominic Coskio, Maria and Nicole Costio, and a'l

1042
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: Go Costkio. The father reportedly met Jackson while working at

1043
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: a luxury hotel. You know, Michael Jackson loves luxury hotels.

1044
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: He likes luxury and the finer things. And he's in

1045
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: this hotel and he met the father and it became

1046
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: close to him, and they often described any and he

1047
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: introduced the family to him, and they often described themselves

1048
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: as as Michael Jackson's second family. Frank Costio, the dad,

1049
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: wrote a twenty eleven memoir that you're gonna have to

1050
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: get your hands on, called my Friend Michael, defending Jackson

1051
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: against earlier allegations. That was the best what the book did. Okay,

1052
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: So this guy was a defender of you know, you

1053
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: know what happen people. Everyone said, Oh, this guy's my

1054
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: listing children. Oh my god, he sleeps with kids, he

1055
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: gives them a wine he calls a Jesus juice. There's

1056
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: a new there's a new beverage in town you will

1057
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: find in this story coming up soon. Lawsuit claims that

1058
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson began abusing the siblings when they were around

1059
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: seven or eight years old, and the abuse continued for years.

1060
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: He showed the children pornography. That's wrong. He sexually abused

1061
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: the siblings individually over many years. Wow, that's wrong. He

1062
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: forced two of the boys to watch him assault their sister,

1063
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: Marie Nicole. Now, these are only the allegations, Sam, I

1064
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: want you to make sure that that's understood. He gave

1065
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: the children alcohol and drugs, including prescription drugs like Xanax

1066
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,479
Speaker 2: and viagra. He used child friendly nicknames for alcohol, such

1067
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: as Jesus Juice for wine and Disney Juice for hard alcohol.

1068
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 3: Wow, Disney Juice.

1069
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: Allegedly instructed employees to obtain alcohol and drugs for the employees.

1070
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: And that's what the father says. That the employees knew

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01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: everything about this, okay, and they facilitated it. He threatened

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01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: the children, telling them their lives and their families' lives

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01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: would be ruined if the abuse became public. He was like,

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01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: this abuse has to be private abuse, otherwise your families

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01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: will be ruined. And they fell for that. He coached

1076
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: them on what to say if adults asked them about molestation.

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01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: Lawsuit also claims Jackson manipulated the family to gain access

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: to gain access to the children by encouraging their parents

1079
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: to homeschool them, isolating the siblings from each other, arranging

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: international trips and travel through his business organization. The complaint

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01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: alleges the abuse continued until shortly before Jackson's death in

1082
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. They want to Their causes of

1083
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: action are child sex trafficking, negligence, intentional af folction, emotional distress,

1084
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: breach of contract from and exigent hiring employees related to

1085
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: the facilitating the abuse. Now. Their lawyer is Howard King.

1086
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: He's a very prominent lower I think he's like the

1087
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: maybe the Metallica lawyer Okay King said in a statement

1088
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: the family chose to speak out despite threats from the estate.

1089
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: They seek compensation for more than a decade of abuse

1090
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: and hope their case will encourage other victims to come forward.

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Speaker 2: The estate's attorney, Martin Singer, strongly denies the allegations. This

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01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: is what Singer said about the lawsuit said, it's a

1093
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: desperate money grabs. Sam yeah By the members of the

1094
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: Caskio family trying to obtain hundreds of millions of dollars.

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01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: He also pointed out that the Costcio family defended Jackson

1096
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: publicey for decades. He's like, so, what's up with that?

1097
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: In their two thousand and three criminal trial that Michael

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01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: had involving Gavin Arvizo, in which Jackson was acquitted thanks

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01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: to them, Singer said, the new filing is forum shopping

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01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: in an attempt to obtain the lot payout. You know,

1101
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: forum shopping is and they go around and they go, well,

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01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: you file this case in this state because they get

1103
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: a lot of guilty verdicts in this state or whatever,

1104
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: so you keep or the judges or whatever. Yeah, and

1105
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 2: it's shady. Here's a complication. Siblings say they previously signed

1106
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: a twenty nineteen agreement they believed was a life rights deal,

1107
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: but later discovered it was a non disparagement clause, saying

1108
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: they're not allowed to disparage him, they're not allowed to

1109
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 2: say that he molested them, and then it had binding

1110
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: arbitration provisions. They claim the agreement was designed to prevent

1111
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: them from suing or speaking publicly about the allegations They

1112
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: are currently trying to invalidate that agreement in court. And

1113
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: you can't have a non disparagement agreement if it's non

1114
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: disparagement about something that's illegal activity. So all they have

1115
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: to do is say, I'm going to talk about illegal activity.

1116
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: You know one can it can make me stop. But

1117
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: if it's wrong, they could be sued for defamation. Who

1118
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: could sue them for defamation? If Michael Jackson is dead,

1119
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: you're right the estate because the estate would be harmed

1120
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 2: if people are running around saying he's a pedophile. Because

1121
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: do you remember when when he was at his worst

1122
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: for pedofile accusations, there was no Michael Jackson on the radio.

1123
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: Captain EO shut down yep, and then it started creeping back.

1124
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: It's back now, I think, but maybe it'll go away

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01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: if these guys have anything to say about it. There's

1126
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: also a lawsuit by Wade Robson and James safe Chuck,

1127
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: the two accusers featured in the documentary Leaving Neverland. Now,

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01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: this documentary Leaving Leaving Netherland, Sam was the documentary that

1129
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: they say they watched, these kids watched and then they

1130
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: kind of snapped out of their hypnotism. Okay, that's what

1131
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: they say. They said when they saw it, they go, way,

1132
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: that's kind of what happened to us. Did we get bamboozled?

1133
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: Did we get hoodwinked? Maybe we did. And then they

1134
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: started talking about it, and then they said, we gotta

1135
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: we have to step forward so others may step forward.

1136
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: But that's so gross. If it's true, it's very sick. Man.

1137
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: It's not true. He's a persecuted individual. Yeah, he's a

1138
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: christ like figure.

1139
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: It's hard to like hard to get any kind of

1140
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: accurate read on this when one person's dead.

1141
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you. While he was alive, I had friends.

1142
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: I had a friend that was a personal assistant to

1143
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: a very very very very very famous person, one of

1144
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: the most famous people of the world. And so he

1145
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: had to go over there a lot because he would

1146
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: he would love this famous person. And he said to

1147
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: you go in there, like can Webster walks out of

1148
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 2: the bedroom or people like that. It's like like young

1149
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: kids were like, you know, sleeping. This is according to

1150
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: this guy, they're sleeping in the room and there and

1151
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: he didn't say I haven't seen him have sex or anything,

1152
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: but they're sleeping into Yeah. Now, if you're a girl man,

1153
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: and you have a young kids sleeping in your bed.

1154
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: This is what's gonna happen to you. You're gonna be

1155
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: accused of molestation. If you have a lot of money,

1156
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: people are gonna sue you and try to take your

1157
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: money away. So you got to be a grown up

1158
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: and not have children in your bedroom. And if you

1159
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: want children in your bedroom, you need to just be

1160
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: locked up. Yeah. And even if you're not having sex

1161
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 2: with him, it puts them in a really bad situation

1162
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: and their parents, you know, look at us. The parents.

1163
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: Parents are trying to say, well, he's Michael Jackson. He's

1164
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: so nice, and my kid loves him. I just I

1165
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: never liked that oh Michael Jackson thing because it just

1166
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: seemed like he was getting away with too much. And

1167
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: then when he gets popped for it, he's like, oh,

1168
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: I love the children. I love the children. You're an idiot.

1169
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: You have kids in your bedroom all night?

1170
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I believe when he was asked, have you

1171
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 3: ever had kids in your bedroom, he was like yes,

1172
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: he admitted that he denied doing anything of a sexual

1173
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 3: nature with them. But if you're going to acknowledge that

1174
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: you're having kids that are not your own in your bed,

1175
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 3: you're running the risk of having stuff like that happen.

1176
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 2: Then there's no one around it tell them not to

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01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: do that.

1178
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1179
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: Well, celebrities, you know, they get rid of people that

1180
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: tell them not to do things. They only surround themselves

1181
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: with people that demand very little of them, the sick ones.

1182
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: But you know, Michael Jackson had when he was he

1183
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: was trying to have kids and then he was I

1184
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: think it was reported. I think it was Diane Swear said,

1185
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: when you first got pregnant, first got that one one pregnant,

1186
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 2: and she said, what are you going to name the baby?

1187
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: And he said, if it's a girl, we're gonna name

1188
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: it Lisa. And if it's a boy, I'm gonna have

1189
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 2: sex with it.

1190
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh boy.

1191
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: And that was just report. I didn't I don't know

1192
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: if that's true. That's just chat cheapt.

1193
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, chat ChiPT.

1194
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't take any responsibility for that. That that better news.

1195
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: I think it might have been wrong too. I think

1196
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: I think that that might have been inaccurate. Yes, all right,

1197
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 2: let's take a break and check the traffic on Joe

1198
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: Scalante Live from Hollywood.

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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: Joe Asante, he's my lawyer, you don't want money, he

1200
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: does it at all.

1201
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood, by Hollywood, do you mean

1202
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 2: Burbank Tyler. Tyler Perry has responded to that seventy seven

1203
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: million dollars sexual misconduct lawsuit Sam that we reported on

1204
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: a week or so ago. So he's the owner of

1205
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry Studios in Atlanta and makes a lot of

1206
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 2: movies the medea. Is that how you say that?

1207
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: May Media?

1208
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it makes all those movies. I have a

1209
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 2: song in his upcoming movie. Actually really yeah, I do

1210
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: a big payday for the vandals, thank you very much.

1211
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna be fair when I report about him.

1212
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

1213
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: The plaintiff is Derek Dixon, the lying plaintiffil he appeared

1214
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: in something and he's filing seventy seven million dollar lawsuit

1215
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: leedging Perry used his power in the industry to pursue

1216
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: a sexual relationship with him and retaliated when Dixon rejected him.

1217
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: Dixon says he first met Perry in twenty nineteen while

1218
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 2: working on a project. Claims Perry later invited him to

1219
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: his Atlanta home and private jet trips, promising to advance

1220
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: his career. Lawsuit, Perry sent explicit messages in sexual proposition,

1221
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: which Dixon says he rejected. Dixon claims that after refusing

1222
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: the advances, his opportunities with Perry's productions dried up. He

1223
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: played a guy like it was called like dude number

1224
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: ten in one movie.

1225
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: So he didn't actually have like a named role. He

1226
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: was just somebody who.

1227
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: Was like something number ten. I forgot what it was.

1228
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: But so Tyler's responses to the new development that's happened

1229
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: is his legal team has denied the allegations, calling it

1230
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: a shakedown and a money grab. The attorney says his

1231
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: fault the claims, you're false and opportunistic. He never gave Perry,

1232
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 2: never conditioned employment on a relationship. Plaintiff is attempting to

1233
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: exploit Perry's wealth and fame. Perry's lawyers say they intend

1234
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: to fight this case aggressively, and it doesn't seem to

1235
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: be any evidence at all in this case. It's just

1236
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 2: a guy throwing claims around. And as far as I know,

1237
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: he's not gay, Tyler Perry, but then some people say

1238
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 2: he's gay because all these people are accusing him of

1239
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: of gay assaults. But I don't know. You know, you

1240
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: have a bunch of money, you're more successful, you are

1241
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: the bigger, the target is on your back.

1242
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 3: That's that's for sure. But it also means that you

1243
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 3: get held to that higher standard. If you're gonna have

1244
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: that kind of money, you better behave yes.

1245
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: But so anyway, we don't know about this one at all.

1246
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 3: That's what.

1247
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: There's no evidence that I've seen that that that says

1248
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 2: it's true or not true. Meaning he's guilt. He's innocent

1249
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: until proven guilty, and not just because he gave me

1250
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: a bunch of money. The Amazing Race contestant Jonathan and

1251
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: Anna Towns is to contestants have filed an eight million

1252
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: dollar defamation lawsuit against the producers of that CBS show,

1253
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: Amazing Race. And they say this is a new thing.

1254
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: They should, they claim the shows. It's I mean, it's

1255
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 2: a trend. People are suing reality shows claiming that editing

1256
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: deliberately portrayed them badly. Here, the plaintiff says that Editing

1257
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: portrayed Jonathan as abusive and morally depraved.

1258
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: Maybe they portrayed themselves as being abusive.

1259
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: Impromisers allegedly ignored they've annoyed context in these you know,

1260
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: and then they said that later he was found the

1261
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: ad autism, so he was not even responsible for his

1262
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: horrible abusive behavior. They claimed selective editing destroyed his reputation

1263
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: and caused professional harm. Uh so there, this is okay. Now,

1264
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: if they really did this and had a diabolical desire

1265
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 2: to destroy the person, that would be malice and you

1266
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: can't do that. But and in these things, I don't know,

1267
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: do you consider him a public person? If he's on

1268
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 2: a reality show and he signed up to a reality show,

1269
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 2: is he is he a public figure?

1270
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 3: It makes him somewhat of a public figure, yes, but

1271
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 3: it also is one where it's like you're not necessarily

1272
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 3: earning your fame just because you're on a TV show

1273
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 3: as a game show contestant.

1274
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what is in my opini he is a

1275
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: public figure is meaning that he would have to prove

1276
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: actual malice. He would have to prove they were trying

1277
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: to destroy him and not just trying to make the

1278
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: show more interesting. And everybody knows before you sign up

1279
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: for these things that they're gonna manipulate them to make

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Speaker 2: more drama. That's what their bread and butter is. So

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Speaker 2: he signs up for this thing, he signs up to

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Speaker 2: be a public figure. He says, hey, everybody, please make

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Speaker 2: me a public figure. I'm begging you. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: go to these auditions. I'm gonna make an ass out

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Speaker 2: of myself so i can be a public figure. Okay,

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01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: you're a public figure. Now we have to defamation. As

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: you know, a something has to be something that makes

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01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: people spit on the ground like you're abusive. Okay, well

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: you're abusive. I spit on the ground, all right. That's defamatory.

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Speaker 2: Also has to be untrue, and if it's a public person,

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: public person, public figure, you have to show this extra

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01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: step of malice, and that's hard to prove. He has

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01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: to prove that they did this with actual malice, trying

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: to destroy him and not just create entertainment, and that

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01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: they knew it would destroy his career and all that

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01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,959
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Very hard to establish.

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Speaker 3: And don't why him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly why him? And so to me, if you

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Speaker 2: want to go on a show like The Amazing Race,

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Speaker 2: first of all, there's something a little bit wrong with you, off,

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01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: little disordered. You want this kind of attention, and then

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01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: you should know they're gonna make you look like an

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01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: a hole. If they can. That's what they do. So

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Speaker 2: he wanted these people they go on an amazing race.

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Speaker 2: They want to be on it so bad they are

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Speaker 2: desperate to be on it. Okay, so you're on it.

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Speaker 2: You know what they do. And he says, and this

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Speaker 2: is something called the villain edit phenomenon. Make this guy

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Speaker 2: a villain. You know that that's happening. If you don't

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Speaker 2: like it, don't do the show. That's why I faught

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Speaker 2: on this. And I don't think he should you unless

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Speaker 2: they have a smoking gun of someone saying, let's destroy

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Speaker 2: this guy because he's he's a he likes UCLA instead

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Speaker 2: of USC or you know, some reason why they don't

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Speaker 2: like him. They want to destroy him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, and it's to me, if you're a person that

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Speaker 2: wants to go on an amazing race, just suck it up.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, it's you know, there's a lot of there's

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Speaker 2: there there. They have to make drama, and then when

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Speaker 2: they make the drama, you're gonna sue them. The same

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Speaker 2: thing happened on Below Deck. There was a lawsuit filed

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Speaker 2: against Universal pressure this guy into the romantic story lines.

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Speaker 2: His name is Emil cots Uh manipulated schedules to put

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Speaker 2: him with this other girl for gave him alcohol and

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Speaker 2: then he says it made him look bad and then

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Speaker 2: he was gonna have a sailing career.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: This guy, the guy on on the below deck is

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Speaker 2: suing for six hundred and thirty three to eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty million because he said they have So that's

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Speaker 2: why I wanted this much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the problem is if you're not, if you

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Speaker 3: don't give them content like that to edit and chop

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Speaker 3: up and make you look bad with, then they're not

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Speaker 3: going to have any fuel to use against you. Chances

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Speaker 3: are he did behave.

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Speaker 2: He did, but they had autism, he found out later.

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Speaker 3: But there are plenty of people with autism who don't

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Speaker 3: misbehave on that level. So using that as an excuse

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Speaker 3: it falls a little hollow to me.

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Speaker 2: It's not fair to people who actually do have autism

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Speaker 2: and struggle every day.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And if you to me, it's just you know, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to get on a reality show. Take your lumps, right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that does it for this weeks Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: I now leave you with just a taste of the

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