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Speaker 1: Hi, Billy cunning him the great America, welcome this Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: the Tristead. Of course, the big news is tonight, a

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Speaker 1: lot of great high school football going on. And then

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Speaker 1: on Sunday at four twenty five, the Bengali's take it

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Speaker 1: off against the Packers, and of course we have Flaco

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Speaker 1: Wacko Flacco is in charge. We have just changed Joe

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Speaker 1: for another Joe, and we'll see what happens. Burrow to

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Speaker 1: Flacco and the game starts at four to twenty five.

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Speaker 1: All coverage starts here about nine oh five am in

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Speaker 1: the morning, and that gives Joe Waco Flacco in additional

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Speaker 1: three hours to know the playbook and made me understand

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Speaker 1: what's going on and if he wins, if he could

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Speaker 1: beat the Packers twice over a four week period, he'd

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Speaker 1: be the first quarterback in an NFL history over a

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Speaker 1: four week period to beat the same team twice with

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Speaker 1: two different teams he's playing for, which is somewhat unusual

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Speaker 1: if you can follow my reasoning there. But the Bengals

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Speaker 1: do things quite unreasonable quite often. Why the Browns would

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Speaker 1: want to trade a functional quarterback to a division rival

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Speaker 1: that haven't beaten they haven't beaten yet. Cleveland Cincinnati plays

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Speaker 1: in about six weeks. Is beyond me. But Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: often make decisions no one understands, but joan of you

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Speaker 1: and I now is the great Steve Gooden. He's running

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Speaker 1: for city council. Unfortunately, he sees hope in the city.

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Speaker 1: And also he monitored the great debate last night. I

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Speaker 1: had on Corey Bowman a couple of days ago. After

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Speaker 1: have pure of all refuses to come on. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: Steve Gooden, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham shun. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I know you monitored the debate as much

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Speaker 1: as your good stomach. Give me your ideas of what

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Speaker 1: happened last night with a great debate for Mayor.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I think anybody that watched that debate that

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Speaker 2: didn't conclude that our mayor is a petty, didn't skinned

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Speaker 2: individual who has no business in an office like that,

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Speaker 2: They weren't seeing the same thing I saw. It's all attack.

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Speaker 2: It's all trying to paint everyone he disagrees with as

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Speaker 2: a mega fashion extremists. He has nothing he can say

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Speaker 2: about his record, nothing to say about the gun battle

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Speaker 2: on Walnut Street on Monday night at five o'clock in

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Speaker 2: the afternoon when people were leaving their offices, where two

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Speaker 2: idiots got into a fight and started shooting and one

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Speaker 2: of them got shot in the hand. It was just

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Speaker 2: he has nothing to say about the new crime stats

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Speaker 2: this week that show property crimes up more than one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent downtown, that now shows that downtown is our

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Speaker 2: most violent neighborhood. Of all the neighborhoods that starts the

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Speaker 2: West End, Avondale, other places where we've seen gun violence,

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Speaker 2: Downtown is the worst. He didn't talk about our restaurants

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Speaker 2: being down twenty to twenty five percent. He didn't talk

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Speaker 2: about this River Roots Festival having to cancel all their

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Speaker 2: acts because of poor ticket sales because people are afraid

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Speaker 2: to come downtown. He didn't talk about any of that.

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Speaker 2: He just tried to say that Corey Bowman was some

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Speaker 2: sort of an extremist or something, and you know, it

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Speaker 2: was just it was a disgrace.

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Speaker 1: You know, a few mothers. A few years ago, the

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Speaker 1: Tall Stacks came here. It was well attended, people going nuts.

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Speaker 1: All the cruises were sold out, the dinner cruises, etc.

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Speaker 1: People downtown. It was all great stuff. It was good.

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Speaker 1: Now that we have river Roots is happening, and no

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Speaker 1: one knows that. I was unaware until I saw Paula

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Speaker 1: and her toadies a couple of nights ago talking about

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Speaker 1: river Roots. I'm thinking, what is that? And so you're

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Speaker 1: telling me something I suspected. There's no buzz, there's no

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Speaker 1: feeling that those in Boone, Kenton, Campbell, those in Butler, Warren,

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Speaker 1: those in Columbus want to come to downtown Cincinnati, get

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Speaker 1: go to the shores of the Ohigh, look at these

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Speaker 1: old river boats, get some rubber chicken, then go back

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Speaker 1: to the room if they're alive. And so that to

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Speaker 1: me is a clear indicator indicator about what's happening with

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Speaker 1: river Roots, which is a dud. And I would think

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Speaker 1: the mayor would say, you know what these are? The

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Speaker 1: Paula this is the last four years on crime, Support

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Speaker 1: the police, support the firefighters. We need affordable housing, We

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Speaker 1: need better healthcare clinics, we need better programs of one

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Speaker 2: None of that was.

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Speaker 1: He can't defend his record. So it's Tora Tora against

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman. So let's talk about number one crime you're

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Speaker 1: downtown a lot. You're a big time lawyer in addition

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Speaker 1: to being unfortunately running for city council. What have you

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Speaker 1: discerned the last two or three years the safety of

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Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati that those around the region, no I'm not

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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what's happening. I mean, you see it.

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Speaker 2: You know. Look, I have an office right up this street.

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Speaker 2: I lived downtown for years, and I can tell you

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Speaker 2: it is less safe than it was four years ago.

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Speaker 2: They used COVID as an excuse to pull back on

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Speaker 2: some of the policing. We have a police staffing crisis,

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Speaker 2: which we've known for many years. There's not enough officers

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Speaker 2: to work mandatory over time. It's a disaster. It's not safe.

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Speaker 2: People want to use our downtown. We have all these

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Speaker 2: beautiful new attractions, new buildings, new restaurants, but they're suffering.

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Speaker 2: And I look, you know it's so bad now that

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Speaker 2: the Inquirer has a regular column every month that tells

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Speaker 2: you which restaurants closed They've got there. Keith panned off.

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Speaker 2: He's a great writer for the actually does a column

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Speaker 2: on closures and openings. Okay, so, and there's always more

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Speaker 2: closures and openings, and most of them ru in that

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Speaker 2: downtown area. It's killing these small businesses. There are people

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Speaker 2: who have put their entire lives, savings, everything on the

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Speaker 2: were told, Look, the city's investing it over the Rhine,

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Speaker 2: investing in downtown. But if you don't invest in public safety,

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Speaker 2: all the buildings, all the rehabs in the world don't

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Speaker 2: make sense. If people are afraid of getting shot, they're

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Speaker 2: a free to getting shot. And on this River Roots

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Speaker 2: Tall Stack thing, I mean, you know, all the music acts,

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Speaker 2: all the big music acts, they had to cancel and

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Speaker 2: pull away. I mean they lost millions on this thing,

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Speaker 2: I'm told. And because the last time we had a

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Speaker 2: music festival, the Cincinnati Music Festival, the Old Jazz Fest,

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Speaker 2: we made international news because of the attack on this

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Speaker 2: Holly and those people and the Fourth Street beat down

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Speaker 2: with people who have options and want to choose word

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Speaker 2: my daughter runs a restaurant over in Covington, that Covington

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Speaker 2: and Bellevue were the ones that are reaping the benefit.

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Speaker 2: They have lines out the door from people who don't

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Speaker 2: want to come downtown because it's safe because you can

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Speaker 2: see police officers walking around Covington. Yes, because Bellevue has

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Speaker 2: voting with their feet. And it's to the dutchment of everyone.

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Speaker 2: And this is the council and active. They don't want

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Speaker 2: to talk about it. They have to go negative because

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Speaker 2: they really have nothing else to say.

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Speaker 1: And on Borough Love and Kevin had an headline the

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Speaker 1: other day about on the great debate is the National

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Speaker 1: Guard needed in Cincinnati? Instead of asking the question why

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Speaker 1: is the National Guard needed in Cincinnati? What are the

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Speaker 1: policies of the current administration that incentivize criminals and disincentivized police.

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Speaker 1: One of the great statements in Last Night is about

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Speaker 1: all the crime. We're enabling police to do their job,

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Speaker 1: is what f Ted Piroval says. We're enabling police to

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Speaker 2: No, they're not.

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Speaker 1: There's millions of dollars being spent on social welfare programs

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Speaker 1: that could have hired an additional two underd police officers

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Speaker 1: instead of hiring cops. They're paying arm robbers one thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars a month as part of an ambassador program not

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Speaker 1: to commit any more armed robberies, including travel vouchers to

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Speaker 1: other American cities. Plus, I'm told some of the council

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Speaker 1: candidates have Iris Roley and others that are being enabled

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Speaker 1: to go after council candidates personally, and of course Iris

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Speaker 1: Roly can do that. She makes one hundred and six

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Speaker 1: or more thousand dollars a year as an ambassador of type.

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Speaker 1: She's the implementer of the so called so called initiative

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Speaker 1: to improve the relationship between the city and the cops,

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Speaker 1: and she's being paid to attack. Can you explain, have

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Speaker 1: you been the subject of an attack because the collaborative representative,

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Speaker 1: not an employee of the city, making more than comps

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Speaker 1: and firefighters, is being incentivized under the collaborative to attack

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Speaker 1: council candidates that don't like have tad purerival. Have you

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Speaker 1: been subjected to that?

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Speaker 2: I had been subjected to skating, although I think in

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Speaker 2: effective attacks by miss role Lee, particularly online. And look,

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Speaker 2: here's the way it works. This is the new version

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Speaker 2: of patronage at city Hall. You know, they do have

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Speaker 2: civil service protections for full time employees. They can't get

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Speaker 2: involved in politics. So what they do is they give

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Speaker 2: these big contracts to so called consultants or to nonprofits.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them are bogus, and that's how they

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Speaker 2: defund the police. They fund the money to these places.

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Speaker 2: So Iris, you know, used to be an activist outside

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Speaker 2: the city Hall and some of the stuff she did

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Speaker 2: do it. Now she has a paid city content and

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Speaker 2: through a loophole, is not subject to civil service protections

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Speaker 2: and is clearly being used to attack people like me

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Speaker 2: that they see as being you know, actually, I think

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Speaker 2: they must have some polling that show people like me

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Speaker 2: and Smitham and others are in the hunt. But yes,

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Speaker 2: they've come after me. It's very clearly coordinated. She and

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Speaker 2: Damon Lynch. You know, hundreds of people from I guess

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Speaker 2: from these church communities that they associate with, are on

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Speaker 2: Facebook and other places attacking me. My favorite is a

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Speaker 2: guy that keeps calling me, well it gives me a

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Speaker 2: white piece of dog crap every day I post something.

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Speaker 2: He puts that on there actually doesn't say crap, but

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Speaker 2: I guess I can't say the full thing here. And

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Speaker 2: my other favorite is one who keeps calling me, quote

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Speaker 2: a mediocre douchebag, which which is particularly offensive because I

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Speaker 2: thought I was an extraordinary douchebag. I really work hard

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Speaker 2: at it, so I was really hurt by that. The

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Speaker 2: mediocre part really hurts. But this is the kind of

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Speaker 2: stuff they do, and these are tax dollars paying this

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Speaker 2: woman who has no real metrics. We can't tell what

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Speaker 2: she does with her days, but she's out there not

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Speaker 2: promoting the mayor but attacking his critics. Well, now that

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Speaker 1: Does she put in forty tough hours a week? Is

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Speaker 1: she up there eight o'clock on Monday morning, she'll be

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Speaker 1: reporting to the collaborative. And then what happened a few

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Speaker 1: months ago is when she interfered with arrest and over

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Speaker 1: the rhine the police union Ken Kobra wanted her arrested.

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Speaker 1: In fact that he told the cops the next time

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Speaker 1: she interferes with an arrest, arrest her and that's the

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Speaker 1: number one said. That's exactly what she wants. She wants

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Speaker 1: to be a victim. So how can anyone say Iris

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Speaker 1: Rowlie is performing collaborative work when she has no work schedule,

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Speaker 1: she has no job. She collects serious money. I understand,

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Speaker 1: a three year contract worth four hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars a year in order to collaborate with who about what?

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Speaker 1: And how can you be attacked when you're not in

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Speaker 1: not attacked explain that one to me?

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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you, I mean, I mean, apparently

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Speaker 2: And that's a form of defunding the police. That's the

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Speaker 1: Crazy, None of this is true because the mayor said

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Speaker 1: And the other thing he said is affordable housing. I

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Speaker 1: What is affordable housing the people's judge and I, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, nobody knows what affordable housing means when they

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Speaker 2: But what the what they typically call what these developers

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Speaker 1: And now he's going to use all of his success

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Speaker 2: I think you know, I'm told he already has all

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Speaker 2: those black because you know my understanding, islack. Look, you

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Speaker 2: that's some like intellectual property copyright infringement that'll catch up

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Speaker 2: it in his performance, and that will haunt him throughout

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Speaker 2: But courts have some was station Yeah, Well he did

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Speaker 2: a number on the courthouse too. A lot of these

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Speaker 2: record that will haunt him everywhere. Save Good and keep

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Speaker 2: being a douchebag. It comes naturally to me. Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Now you're a lawyer, so that it fits Steve Good

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Speaker 1: and thank you very much. We get the government we deserve.

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