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Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The

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Speaker 1: house Whisper on demand.

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Speaker 2: On the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: I Am Dean Sharp, The house Whisper, Custom home Builder,

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Speaker 1: custom home Designer, and every week your guide to better

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Speaker 1: understanding that place where you live. Today, on the show,

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Speaker 1: we are doing the annual House Whisper listener Interviews, meaning

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Speaker 1: that we've gathered together some more personal questions that y'all

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Speaker 1: have sent in and communicated to us over the last year,

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Speaker 1: and we save it all up just for one show.

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Speaker 1: Get it out of the way. Oh want, No, we do.

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Speaker 1: We want to answer your questions, but you know, we

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Speaker 1: spend most of our time talking about your home and

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Speaker 1: its design and its issues, which is what I want

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Speaker 1: to do, and then a little bit of time talking

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Speaker 1: about kind of where we came from and what that's

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Speaker 1: all about. That's today's show. But right now here we

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Speaker 1: are in the second hour, which means it's time to

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Speaker 1: go to the phones. I don't want to do just that.

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Speaker 1: I'm want to talk to Let's see here, let's talk

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Speaker 1: to Ricky. Hey, Ricky, welcome home, Dean.

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Speaker 3: I got a nineteen fifty five home. It's on a

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Speaker 3: raised foundation. I'm gonna try to give you all the details.

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Speaker 3: So my question is regarding the LVP. The luxury vinyl planks,

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Speaker 3: they're about nine inches wide five feet long. They got

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Speaker 3: the rubber liner underneath, and they were installed about a

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Speaker 3: year ago. The ones in the kitchen and the dining

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Speaker 3: room are over tile, and then the rest of the

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Speaker 3: house is on the original wood floors. What they did

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Speaker 3: is on the second half of the house they put

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Speaker 3: plywood underneath, so that way there's no transition lines. Everything

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Speaker 3: kind of flows through. So recently in the kitchen area,

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Speaker 3: one of the vinyl planks is starting to lift and

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Speaker 3: it's just an enough where it kind of snags your

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Speaker 3: toe or if you're wearing socks, you rub the edge,

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Speaker 3: you kind of fill it wearing sandals and you kind

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Speaker 3: of do a quick turn. It kind of catches your

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Speaker 3: sandal a little bit. And apparently they put the kitchen

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Speaker 3: cabinets over the luxury vinyl and then obviously there's a

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Speaker 3: tile underneath, So trying to see if there's a solution

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Speaker 3: on that, and also the base boards when they were

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Speaker 3: all installed, there's some areas that have like a slight

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Speaker 3: little gap, and then other areas that are nice and flush.

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Speaker 3: And the last part is there's a few spots, like

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Speaker 3: in the bedrooms. When you walk over those spots, you

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Speaker 3: hear like some squeaking, which I thought would probably go

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Speaker 3: away since those are over the plywood, But apparently that

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Speaker 3: original floor is still squeaking. So just trying to look

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Speaker 3: for some guidance. Maybe you can help me out with

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Speaker 3: your expertise.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's let's back it up to uh,

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Speaker 1: let's back it up to the plank in the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: Where is that plank at in relationship? Is it right

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Speaker 1: up next to the cabinets. Is that out in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the floor. Where is where's that happening?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's The setup in the kitchen is like an

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Speaker 3: alley kitchen, and it's right about the middle of the flooring.

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Speaker 1: Huh okay, and ye said the kitchen cabinets were set,

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Speaker 1: they were sat on top of the you know, the

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Speaker 1: floor was put in and then they put the cabinets

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Speaker 1: on top of the floor.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And when I spoke with my wife, she did

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Speaker 3: mention that her thing was she doesn't like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: she don't like that. I guess it's quarter round or

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Speaker 3: something like that. She don't like that going along the

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Speaker 3: to go underneath, and then the baseboards sit on top.

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Speaker 3: And I get the same thing with the fiction to

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Speaker 3: have it gets a cleaner look, right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well here's some things if you're not having It's

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Speaker 1: one plank in the kitchen, right one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I went through the whole floor inspecting it with

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on, but it's just that

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Speaker 3: one plank and it's around maybe eight inches long, and

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the thing. Uh, this is my guess,

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Speaker 1: and it's a guess, but I think it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have a disaster in the kitchen, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: because the cabinets and I and I totally get it.

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Speaker 1: By the way your wife's vibe on that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: whenever we install a floor like that, we also baseboards especially.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have done it in

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Speaker 1: But anyway, look neither here nor there. It's done. The

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Speaker 1: trick is this, though, what I what I like to

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Speaker 1: At the same time, though, I want it to be accessible,

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Speaker 1: and that's the trouble with the you know, having sat

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Speaker 1: I think this is my guess. I think because you're

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Speaker 1: not talking about the floor buckling, you're not talking about anything.

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Speaker 1: I think that one plank was damaged when it got installed.

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Speaker 1: And in other words, the edges of LVP floors where

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Speaker 1: they click lock into each other, it's not a simple

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Speaker 1: tongue and groove U. There is a there's it's kind

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Speaker 1: they twist in and those those edges are pretty sensitive.

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Speaker 1: In other words, the what we're going to for the

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Speaker 1: sake of the rest of the conversation just called the

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Speaker 1: tongue in groove locking mechanism where one plank locks into

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Speaker 1: another and it's not hard to damage a piece of plank.

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Speaker 1: My guess is that the installers may have actually snapped

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Speaker 1: so that you know, in doing it inadvertently, or it

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Speaker 1: got by them. And what happens is we've got no

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Speaker 1: interlock between those two pieces, the plank that you've got

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Speaker 1: that's raised up a little bit and the one next

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Speaker 1: to it, and as a result, it's now the edge

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Speaker 2: Now, how do you fix that? Well, if you you know.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to, how we would normally fix

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Speaker 1: it is we would remove the baseboard or the base

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Speaker 1: shoe of the wall nearest that plank, and we would

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Speaker 1: unlock the floor and work because they're not glued. We

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Speaker 1: plank until we got to it, and we'd replace it

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Speaker 1: and then just reinstall the floor back down and we're done.

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Speaker 1: It's not a quick fix, but that's the way we

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Speaker 1: would normally go about doing it. In this case, you

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Speaker 1: on a subfloor, but you got tile underneath you, so

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Speaker 1: to sort of secure it. That's what I think is

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Speaker 1: going on in the kitchen. Very very likely that we've

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Speaker 1: got one plank that might be missing a damaged tongue.

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Speaker 1: As for the rest the other two things that you're

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Speaker 1: concerned about, I'm up against a break, but we need

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Speaker 1: to answer that and we'll do it on the other side.

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Speaker 1: So Ricky, you hang tight and we'll figure out what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the baseboards and the squeaky floor. Right

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Speaker 1: after we take a quick break. You're listening to Home

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Speaker 1: with Dean Sharp the House Whist.

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Speaker 2: That's what we do here on the program. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: It is a pleasure and an honor to be with

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Speaker 1: you on this beautiful, beautiful southern California autumn morning here

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Speaker 1: on the nineteenth of October twenty twenty five. Man, where

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Speaker 1: is the year gone? In some ways, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: glad that it's overing itself soon, overing it's overing. I

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Speaker 1: just invented that word. Write that down, Tina TM. Overing TM.

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Speaker 1: That's when you're in the process of getting over something.

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Speaker 1: I'm overing this right now. Okay, just back off. I

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna get back to our house Whisper Listener Interview,

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Speaker 1: our special interview for this time of year. We save

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Speaker 1: that in a bit, but I've got Rick on the line.

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Speaker 1: Ricky has some issues with their luxury vinyl plank flooring

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Speaker 1: that they've added to their home. I answered one question.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I answered it. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: I answered it well, but I probably did not give

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Speaker 1: you the news that you wanted to hear, Ricky. As

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Speaker 1: far as the kitchen plank, I have a feeling it's

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Speaker 1: which is if we because you've sat the cabinets on

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Speaker 1: top of the luxury vinyl there, you cabinets are easy

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Speaker 1: are harder to remove than baseboards, and that's why we

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Speaker 1: normally don't do that in a kitchen setting. We normally

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Speaker 1: just kind of live with the base shoe. Or instead

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Speaker 1: of actually setting the cabinets on the luxury vinyl plank floor,

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Speaker 1: we'll go ahead and set the cabinets on the floor

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Speaker 1: where they normally are, and then we'll add a thin

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Speaker 1: layer a full another kick plate down underneath that basically

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Speaker 1: other room, but it's just a false kick, but it's

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Speaker 1: the floor is still accessible because we could take off

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, assuming that I'm right and that that one

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Speaker 1: plank is damaged and that's why it's rising up because

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Speaker 1: you could, and I'm not saying that this is gonna

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Speaker 1: solve it, but it's possible. If you can't undo the

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Speaker 1: floor and get to replace that plank, you could think

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Speaker 1: about doing an injection of glue of adhesive underneath through

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Speaker 1: a very thin injection port down through the vinyl. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna revisit this as an answer to the other room too.

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Speaker 1: But you could inject some adhesive that that hopefully will

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Speaker 1: bond to the tile and will just hold that plank

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Speaker 1: but that's at least another option that I know has

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Speaker 1: been used sometimes successfully in the past. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the other room. The other room, you've got baseboards now

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Speaker 1: on top of your vinyl plank, and you've got some

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Speaker 1: gaps forming underneath the baseboard. That's actually to be expected

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Speaker 1: on some level. A lot of people are very lightly

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Speaker 1: apply the baseboards on top of the LVP because they're

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Speaker 1: afraid that it's gonna somehow if they push down too

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Speaker 1: from expanding and contracting, which it means to do. It's

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Speaker 1: not really the case. I mean, you could obviously just

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Speaker 1: crank it down to the point where you've clamped it in,

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Speaker 1: but I like a snug baseboard against the floor. Because

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Speaker 1: of that padding under the LVP, it's bound to start

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Speaker 1: of the baseboard, in other words, to creating gaps, especially

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the program today. I'm here

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: The House Whisper listener interview will continue, but first I

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Speaker 1: want to get back to the phones. Let's talk to Patrick. Hey, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: welcome home.

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Speaker 5: I oh, I thinks thanking my call. I have a

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Speaker 5: heater and I just kind of noticed, like on the

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Speaker 5: top the heater, it's like a two inch hole that's

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Speaker 5: rusted and it creates a hole. So I put a

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Speaker 5: foil pan to whatever stripping on the top of the

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Speaker 5: water heater. And it's been about a year ago and

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Speaker 5: it's still working fine. So I want to hear your opinion.

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Speaker 3: Is that safe to use?

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Speaker 5: Or do I have to replace the water heater?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, a water heater with a two inch hole of

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Speaker 1: rust on top. So here's my honest answer, Patrick, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Here's the thing. The reason

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Speaker 1: your water heater is still working is because that outside

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Speaker 1: shell that we all see, that's not the tank, okay,

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Speaker 1: the tank, the tank that is actually the water heater

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Speaker 1: tank itself is inside that shell. And so if that way,

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about corrosion that's through the tank, then

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Speaker 1: your water heater is done done and done and needs replacement.

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Speaker 1: But that's the outer shell now. Gases and heat and

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Speaker 1: hot air form up and around that layer, and there's

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Speaker 1: why did you get it? Did something drip on it?

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Speaker 1: Is that why it rusted out up to night?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I absolutely just kind of like cleaning and I

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Speaker 5: get a ladder and it happened to be on top

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Speaker 5: of the water heat and I said, oh, what happened here?

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Speaker 5: So it does a pipe that run across on top

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Speaker 5: of it, So I'm just assuming that's water tripping down there.

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Speaker 5: So I put a foil pan on top of it

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Speaker 5: to prevent it any further. And I haven't noticed anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, and now obviously the water heater

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Speaker 1: and any potential gas, you know, if the hole went

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Speaker 1: far enough in that we're now, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: area where the gas from the burner, from the exhaust

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Speaker 1: of that gas is potentially leaking out through that hole

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Speaker 1: as opposed to going up through the flu And that's

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Speaker 1: what I can't tell a sight unseen. It sounds it

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Speaker 1: sounds I don't want to say cosmetic, but it sounds

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Speaker 1: pretty superficial to me. But I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: the one telling you that, oh yeah, that's fine and

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Speaker 1: then you know, your garage blows up later and you

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Speaker 1: know the call right, So what I would do? It

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Speaker 1: sounds like you were kind of addressed. I would. I

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Speaker 1: would put some high heat foil tape on it. You

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Speaker 1: can pick that up at the hardware store. High heat

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Speaker 1: foil tape, just to cover the hole. Cover it solid.

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Speaker 1: That would be step one and step two as I

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Speaker 1: would call a plumber and just have them come out.

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Speaker 1: Call a water heat you could call, Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: call you know, just because they're such a great company

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Speaker 1: in Socol. I would call water heaters only and have

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Speaker 1: them come out and take a look at that water heater.

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Speaker 1: They are such an honest water heater replacement company. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you they're just I've had them. I've

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Speaker 1: called them out for friends and relatives and had them

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Speaker 1: actually say you know what, no, you're you're okay with

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Speaker 1: this when you just need to do this and that.

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Speaker 1: So I would call somebody that I trust, like water

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Speaker 1: heaters only, have them come out. But you need somebody,

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Speaker 1: you need a pro to take a look at it.

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Speaker 1: And give you an honest assessment of like, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just a superficial thing.

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Speaker 2: Keep the tape on it.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine, or no, you should probably seriously

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Speaker 1: think about changing it out. I just can't sight unseen.

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Speaker 1: I can't make that call on the phone.

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Speaker 5: Gotcha, all right, appreciate your opinions.

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Speaker 1: All right, my friend, stay safe and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you're you're very conscientious about what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: It's a good move. Definitely keep the whole taped up

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Speaker 1: with high heat foil tape so that you know, you

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Speaker 1: minimize the risk of anything happening, and then get it

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Speaker 1: looked at. Okay, all right, I'm gonna announce the winners.

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Speaker 1: I don't have time to take another call, but I

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Speaker 1: have time to uh applaud our winners here of so far,

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Speaker 1: and we're we've still got two tickets to give away.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing it yet. We're gonna give away two

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Speaker 1: more tickets to the House Whisper Ghost Tour in the

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Speaker 1: third hour of the show. But thus far, what have

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Speaker 1: we got. We've got Leona u luc Luka Witch Lucas

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Speaker 1: Lucasa Witch Man. This is a toughie Lukasa Witch, Lukasovich.

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Speaker 1: All right, Leona and Steven Richards, congratulations, Looking forward to

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Speaker 1: seeing you guys. Colleen Metzker and Catherine Montoya. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you guys as well on Monday night, the

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh, when we do the House Whisper Haunted Ghost

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Speaker 1: Tour of the historic Kellogg House. I got two more tickets.

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Speaker 1: I'll be given away in the third hour. Go nowhere,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back. You are listening to Home with Dean Sharp,

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Speaker 1: The House Whisper. This has been Home with Dean Sharp,

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