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Speaker 2: It is our number three since e three sixty thanks

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Speaker 2: to Penn Station. Let's dive right into it. Thursday our three.

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Speaker 2: We kick things off talking all things Bearcats with our

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Speaker 2: guy from Bearcat Journal dot com, Keegan Nickoson, joining us

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Speaker 2: right now. Hi Keegan, Hi Tony, how are you? Kegan?

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Speaker 2: I know we're going to talk about the Bearcats, but

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Speaker 2: I know, as devoted as you are to the Bearcats,

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Speaker 2: you're also a fan of the Indiana Hoosiers. And I

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Speaker 2: just wanted, if you wanted a second, to give you

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Speaker 2: a chance to take a small lap here on Austin

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Speaker 2: Elmore with what the Hoosiers did to the Buckeyes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's it's.

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Speaker 4: Pretty usually Indiana's little brother, but I'm very.

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Speaker 3: Glad to say that it's now Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: It's I never expected to see with my own eyes.

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Speaker 4: Indiana just you know, out coughing and playing a more

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Speaker 4: physical brain of football than I'll have to stay.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Austin, there was a third and five

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Speaker 3: late in that game and Kurt signetd just said, you

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Speaker 3: know what, let's just throw it up to uh To.

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Speaker 3: I think it was Charlie Becker for a first down.

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Speaker 5: And win the game Charlieville, Tennessee, as Gus Johnson reminders, So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you put them one on one in

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Speaker 4: Indiana's gonna win now.

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Speaker 3: And that's what's the way called football is. Wow.

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Speaker 5: I've been so supportive of Keegan despite the shots taken

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Speaker 5: by Tony Pike. I didn't expect this, but I have

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Speaker 5: no choice but to sit here and take it.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Uh Keigan. While the Hoosiers get ready for the college

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Speaker 2: football playoff, Bearcats are getting ready well for the Liberty Bowl.

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Speaker 2: They'll take on the Navy Midshipman. This is different, right

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Speaker 2: The bowl season is much different unless you are playing

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Speaker 2: in those bigger bowls. The question is not as much

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Speaker 2: about the game, but who's going to be available to

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Speaker 2: play in the game. Where do things stand right now?

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Speaker 2: For just an availability standpoint on the Bearcats and the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a lot of firm answers on

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Speaker 3: who will and will not play.

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Speaker 4: I can only basically go off who's announced that they're

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Speaker 4: going to go in the portal. Christian Harrison's the biggest name.

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Speaker 4: I don't expect him to play in the portal he

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Speaker 4: announced it, or I don't expect him to play in

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Speaker 4: the bowl game. He announced that he was entering the

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Speaker 4: portal last night, which, obviously the big thing isn't the

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Speaker 4: bowl game. The big thing is he was projecting to

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Speaker 4: be one of your best defensive players next season, and

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Speaker 4: now that's a big hole that you have to fill.

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Speaker 3: He took the second most naps on.

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Speaker 4: Defense last year, behind only Matthew McDoom, and a lot

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Speaker 4: of that back end in the safeties was a lot

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Speaker 3: Guys who have exhausted their eligibility.

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Speaker 4: So now you're looking at Antwan Pique and Jakwan Sanks

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Speaker 4: basically playing the same position. They're going to be your

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Speaker 4: have a lot of holes to fill.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I'm not sure about Tayden Barnes or

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Speaker 4: Ethan Green. I think Ethan Green announced that he was playing,

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Speaker 4: So I think in the next couple of weeks, I

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Speaker 4: more clarity on who's going to play in that Bowl

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Speaker 4: game and who who isn't.

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Speaker 2: Would you imagine or speculate to see if if Brendan

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Speaker 2: Saresby plays, I I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know, Like, like it's a it's an interesting thing.

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Speaker 4: Does he play in the bowl game, But that still

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that he's coming back, at least to me.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think I would be surprised

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Speaker 4: Played, just because of the optics of it. You don't

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Speaker 4: But my thing on him is I would be very,

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Speaker 4: very surprised. But again, like I just mentioned, I would

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Speaker 2: For the game itself, I know we can get into

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Speaker 2: those extra opportunities in today's college football landscape to get

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you can speak to it way

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Speaker 4: better than I can, But I think it's big for

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Speaker 4: and basically leaving starter holes. You're going to get that

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Speaker 4: there is a certain level of momentum and pride that

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Speaker 4: you can take and being able to play in a

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Speaker 2: So there's there's some pride.

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Speaker 4: There's some excitement about it. Definitely would rather be in

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Speaker 4: better a better scenario, a better situation. Maybe not, no

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Speaker 4: disrespect to the Liberty Bowl. You know, Zach Klaris and

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Speaker 3: A great game out there.

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Speaker 4: And Memphis, but you'd think the Pop Tarts Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I know you hated the Rate Bowl. You know,

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Speaker 3: Phoenix would be pretty cool. But you know, I think there's.

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Speaker 4: A good amount of excitement and pride about it, so

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Speaker 4: they should they should have as much fun with it

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Speaker 4: playing a sport that's basically meant for children as they

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Speaker 2: Lastly, on the Bowl game before we switch to basketball.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to dive into the ins and outs

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a matchup from hell, if I'm

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Speaker 3: To lean on him very heavy.

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Speaker 4: But I especially with you know, Dante Curleon is probably

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Speaker 4: That's just looking at the situation and saying it doesn't

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a really, really tough matchup.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Scott Sadafield has talked a lot about

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Speaker 2: Switched to basketball. Last time we talked, we talked ahead

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Speaker 2: of the Skyline Chile Crosstown shootout Keegan, and now we're

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Speaker 2: talking after another UC loss on the road at the

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Speaker 2: Centas Center. I don't think the more talented basketball team

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Speaker 2: won the game. I think talent one through fifteen. UC

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Speaker 2: has more of it, yet they're on the wrong side

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Speaker 2: of the stat sheet again. What was your biggest initial

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Speaker 3: Biggest takeaway, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think just the inability to stop Trey Carroll would

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Speaker 3: I think he.

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Speaker 4: Played a very physical and very hard brand of basketball,

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Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, I think he

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Speaker 3: That, and on the floor it looks like they did.

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Speaker 4: The Shana Bayev thing is interesting. I would like to

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Speaker 4: very well, but it's just kind of sporadic scoring throughout

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Speaker 3: Boba Miller is a big thing for me see if

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Speaker 4: And obviously he's coming off an injury, so you're not

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Speaker 3: And like Wes Miller just said in his press conference.

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Speaker 4: He pulled down seventeen rebounds against Xavier, so he's playing

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Speaker 3: I just think it was you didn't put two.

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Speaker 3: So when you see them take the lead with I

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Speaker 4: Like, holy crap, you know they can win this game.

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Speaker 4: They were down I think thirteen pretty early in the

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Speaker 4: But you just had that feeling of I don't know

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Speaker 4: So you know, at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 3: But I think it comes down to a confidence piece.

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Speaker 4: This team needs to string together some big wins, and they.

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Speaker 3: Have those opportunities coming up against Georgia and Clemson.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the question itself, anytime a guy's going to

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Speaker 2: go off for thirty points, why not double him? Why

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Speaker 2: Is kind of what I've sat on for much of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And I can't really tell you that and

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Speaker 4: Chad was actually talking about it a little bit ago.

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Speaker 4: It looked like the same thing, Yaxel Lundeenberg. I think

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Speaker 4: I'm pronouncing that last thing right. It looked like the

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Speaker 3: Did in the second half of that exhibition game, and.

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Speaker 4: They kind of defended it the same exact way, and

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Speaker 4: there wasn't much of a double. They were fouling him

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Speaker 4: Not really. I think if Boba Miller can return to

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Speaker 5: at NFL Next Gen Stats. All right, Bengals at or

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Speaker 2: runner this year. So under pressure, if you're not trying

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Speaker 2: to scramble, well, then the next obvious cases, you're going

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Speaker 2: to be sacked. And I think that's why you see

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Speaker 2: those numbers on the sacks for Lamar Jackson. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's anything crazy in the offensive line. I think

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Speaker 2: it's much of what we've seen in the past. It's

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Speaker 2: just a Lamar's ability or inability or willingness to move

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Speaker 2: and use his legs. He just hasn't seemed to want

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Speaker 2: to do that this year, and I think injuries have

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Speaker 2: a lot to play.

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Speaker 5: In that the Bengals have run between the tackles on

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Speaker 5: sixty two point four percent of their designed runs as

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Speaker 5: a team this season. That's the highest rate in the

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Speaker 5: National Football League. On these plays, Bengals ballcarriers have been

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Speaker 5: contacted behind the line of scrimmage at the sixth lowest

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Speaker 5: rate thirty five percent, while only being stuffed for a

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Speaker 5: loss or no gain on nine point eight percent of

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Speaker 5: their carries, the lowest rate in the NFL and the

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Speaker 5: only offense with a rate below ten percent.

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Speaker 2: I think that speaks to what they have in the middle,

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Speaker 2: whether that's Reisner, whether that's fair Child, whether that's Ted Carris.

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Speaker 2: If you're running in between the tackles, I think you're

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Speaker 2: a run first or a punch in the mouth type

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Speaker 2: of team. The ability to not be hit for a

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Speaker 2: loss or no gain on under ten percent, that's extremely impressive.

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Speaker 2: That's kudos to the offensive line, to Scott Peters, the

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Speaker 2: techniques that he's teaching. The growth of Chase Brown has

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Speaker 2: a lot to do with that, But so much about

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Speaker 2: the running game in the NFL. Too many times, if

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Speaker 2: you don't have the personnel, you want to go outside,

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Speaker 2: you want to try to hit the home runs. The

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Speaker 2: Bengals have found their niche. It's in between the tackles.

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Speaker 2: It's power running. It's understanding that the runs don't have

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Speaker 2: to go for thirty yards, but those in between tackle

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Speaker 2: runs that go for four, five six yards are very

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Speaker 2: effective for this offense under Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 5: Since Trey Hendrickson's absence beginning in Week nine, the Bengals

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Speaker 5: have recorded a thirty six point three percent pressure rate,

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Speaker 5: up from twenty seven point two percent when Hendrickson was healthy.

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Speaker 5: The biggest shift has been their blitz usage. The Bengals

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Speaker 5: have blitzed on twenty six point eight percent of dropbacks

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Speaker 5: since Week nine, nearly ten percentage points higher than their

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Speaker 5: league low seventeen point one percent blitz rate over the

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Speaker 5: first eight weeks. Over that span, the Bengals have generated

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Speaker 5: a forty nine percent pressure rate win blitzing, seventh highest

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Speaker 5: in the league. Despite the recent increase, the Bengals have

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Speaker 5: still blitzed on just twenty point nine percent of dropbacks

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Speaker 5: this season, the lowest rate in the NFL. In their

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Speaker 5: Thanksgiving matchup against the Ravens, the Bengals generated a thirty

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Speaker 5: nine point five percent pressure rate, the second highest of

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Speaker 5: their season, while blitzing on twenty eight point nine percent

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Speaker 5: of dropbacks, their third highest rate this year. The most

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Speaker 5: fascinating part about that is you talked about how much

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Speaker 5: more they're blitzing, and despite that, they've still blitzed the

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Speaker 5: lowest rate in the NFL. That goes to show how

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Speaker 5: little they were pressuring early in the year. And I

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Speaker 5: will at least give credit to Al Golden on that.

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Speaker 5: It feels like they've made a shift to say we

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Speaker 5: are going to pressure more. We're not going to sit back.

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Speaker 5: We know we're not a great tackling team. We know

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Speaker 5: we're not the best at safety on the back end.

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Speaker 5: The only way we can find any semblance of success

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Speaker 5: is if we dial up some pressures and get home.

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Speaker 5: They were able to get home against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing that leads me to believe against the Ravens

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Speaker 5: and that offensive line in Lamar Jackson, and we just

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Speaker 5: talked about the pressure rate, there's no reason that would

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Speaker 5: lead you to believe they don't dial up more pressures

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Speaker 5: on Sunday. I would expect more pressure from the Bengals

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Speaker 5: defensively and Al Golden on Sunday than we saw on

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Speaker 5: that Thanksgiving matchup as well. The Bengals defense has faced

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Speaker 5: a four man surface at the second highest rate thirty percent,

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Speaker 5: and allowed the fourth most rushing yards per carry five

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Speaker 5: point one from this set. This season, forty seven point

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Speaker 5: two percent of four man surface runs against the Bengals

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Speaker 5: have increased the offense's expected points, while eleven point three

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Speaker 5: percent of carriers from this look have gained ten plus.

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Speaker 2: Yards man the four man service run, that's an unbalanced

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Speaker 2: line for those so you're taking an extra lineman and

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Speaker 2: you're putting him on one side, creating an unbalanced in

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Speaker 2: that line. A lot of this autome. I think of

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Speaker 2: what the Pittsburgh Steelers do against the Bengals. You think

522
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Speaker 2: of those heavy sets, You think of Darnell Washington and

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Speaker 2: things like that. The biggest thing for me in a

524
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Speaker 2: four man service run is how are you shifting and

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Speaker 2: how are you adjusting to it? And the fact that

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Speaker 2: those numbers are where they are for the Bengals, it

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Speaker 2: tells me that they're not shifting properly, nor do they

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Speaker 2: have the personnel to shift properly. It makes me wonder

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Speaker 2: because these insights, these analytics are available to every team

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Has the Baltimore Ravens got away from

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry too much this year? And if so, do

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Speaker 2: you look at Lamar's last outing against the Bengals, You

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Speaker 2: look at what Dereck Henry is, You look at what

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Speaker 2: the weather's going to be on Sunday. Is this a

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Speaker 2: game where you see some unbalanced from the Baltimore Ravens

536
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Speaker 2: and pound the ball to Derrick Henry. That would be

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Speaker 2: my game plan if I were the Ravens coming in

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Speaker 2: offensively against this Bengals defense. Last one.

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Speaker 5: Jamar Chase matched up with both Marlon Humphrey and Chittabey

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Speaker 5: Owuzia on twelve snaps each in their Thanksgiving meeting earlier

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Speaker 5: this season. Against Humphrey, Chase was targeted five times and

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Speaker 5: caught three passes for sixty six yards. Against Ouzia, he

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Speaker 5: caught two of four targets for sixteen yards. Last season,

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Speaker 5: Chase primarily faced Brandon Stevens in their matchup with the Ravens,

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Speaker 5: who is no longer on the team, while Humphrey was

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Speaker 5: in coverage for sixteen snaps and Nate Wiggins for fifteen.

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Speaker 2: This just goes this is the greatness of Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: I don't even care about Marlon Humphrey or Woozy A

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Speaker 2: or who else did you mention Brandon Stevens or anyone.

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Speaker 2: That's the greatness of Jamar Chase. If you're going to

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Speaker 2: match up one on one with Jamar Chase, he's going

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Speaker 2: to win more often than not. It's what has led,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, to these explosive games that we've seen

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Speaker 2: between the Baltimore Ravens and the Cincinnati Bengals. I don't

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Speaker 2: have the number in front of me, but can imagine

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Speaker 2: the total points that have put up in these matchups.

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Speaker 2: What this Bengals offense has been able to do that

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Speaker 2: to me is because there hasn't been an answer on

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Speaker 2: the Ravens side, or to that point, the Bengals side,

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Speaker 2: in slowing down either one of these offenses. I always expect,

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Speaker 2: when it's the Baltimore Ravens for Jamar Chase to show

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Speaker 2: up in a big way, for Joe Burrow to show

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Speaker 2: up in a big way, and I don't expect that

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Speaker 2: to be any more different. I pulled it up right here.

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Speaker 2: Bengals and Ravens Austin have combined for fifty two point

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Speaker 2: nine points per game. In eight matchups that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson started, it's almost fifty three points a

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Speaker 2: game combined when those two quarterbacks are on the field.

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Speaker 2: It helps with the Cincinnati Bengals when they got Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase to throw the ball to as well. Do you

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Speaker 2: have to play an out? This has been there and

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Speaker 2: react and react react, react, very good. Let's take a break.

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Speaker 5: What are we in an empty room?

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Speaker 3: There's an echo?

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Speaker 2: There is an echo in here. Phone lines are open

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Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you and more next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station. The holidays can get expensive.

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Speaker 4: But.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back thanks to Penn Station. Since he three to

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Speaker 2: sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's Sports Station. Let's take this

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Speaker 2: moment Austin one final time today. Let's go to our

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Speaker 2: phone lines. Rodney is calling in. What's up Rodney?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, love the show?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: H just one two quick things? Uh.

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Speaker 3: At times, Zach just doesn't seem to me like he's

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Speaker 3: learned his lesson AFC nor football. I wanted him to on.

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Speaker 4: There's times when just take the points to.

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Speaker 3: Run the ball, when when they had the pick sticks

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Speaker 3: last last week.

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Speaker 4: And then the other thing I had was.

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Speaker 3: For Miami. If Pittsford wins one more time, do they

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Speaker 3: get over us?

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Speaker 4: Or am I rooting for Miami or Pittsford Miami?

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Speaker 2: I can say if if this, if the Bengals, all right, Ronnie, thanks,

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Speaker 2: I want to hold you up. If the Bengals, the

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Speaker 2: Bengals win their final four, which would include a win

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Speaker 2: over the Ravens, Ravens would then need to go two

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Speaker 2: and two in their final four, and you need Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: to go one and three. So you're rooting for the

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Speaker 2: Steelers and the Ravens to lose as much as possible

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Speaker 2: while the Bengals win. Now, many may be out there

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Speaker 2: Austin that say, it's just been so much football today.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us some hope with the Reds? Can

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Speaker 2: you can you shine a light on what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Allow me to read what Jeff Passing had to say

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Speaker 2: about the Reds. Have you seen this? I can only imagine.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Passen was asked about the biggest winner and the

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Speaker 2: biggest loser in Major League Baseball during the Winter meetings.

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Speaker 2: He said this of Cincinnati free agents like schwarber Ilk

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Speaker 2: or free agents of Schwarber's ilk rarely entertained the idea

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Speaker 2: of going to small market teams, but the Reds had

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Speaker 2: a built in advantage. He was from there. Considering the

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Speaker 2: scarcity of such possibilities, the Reds, one big bat away

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Speaker 2: from being a real threat to win the EnL Central

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Speaker 2: needed to treat Schwarber's potential arrival with urgency and embraced

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Speaker 2: their inner spendthrift. They had the money to place the

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Speaker 2: largest bid. They chose not to, and they missed a

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Speaker 2: true shame considering the strength of the rotation and the

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Speaker 2: likelihood that similar opportunities won't find them again and time soon. Correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I are the biggest loser in Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball right now. Basically wrote the same thing in Sports

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Speaker 2: Illustrated a couple of days ago. It'says, if not now,

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Speaker 2: then when this is your best opportunity to put together

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Speaker 2: a competitive ball club.

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Speaker 5: And they willingly and knowingly low balled Kyle Schwarber, and

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Speaker 5: I'm sure in the meeting probably played up the idea

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Speaker 5: that he could be this hometown hero and you'll take

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Speaker 5: a discount and our fans will love you forever and

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Speaker 5: you'll be lauded. And if you just you know, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're not like Philly, We're not like so and so.

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Speaker 5: We don't have the money that those teams doing damn

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Speaker 5: well they do. Kyle Schwarber is not an idiot. I'm

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Speaker 5: sure that he knows exactly what's going on, and he's

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Speaker 5: got friends and family here that have to deal with

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Speaker 5: the Reds nonsense every single year.

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Speaker 2: He's not stupid.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure that the Red's probably laid it on thick

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Speaker 5: to try to, you know, make it sound like, you know,

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Speaker 5: he can be this all time great hero for the

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Speaker 5: Reds if he takes less money and he's like, no,

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Speaker 5: you got the money to pay me, than pay me.

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Speaker 2: Ben Verlander is also an MLB analyst. He outlined yesterday

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Speaker 2: there were four offers in for Kyle Schwarber. The Orioles

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Speaker 2: matched the Phillies with their offer, so the most, the

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Speaker 2: longest contract. What he ended up going with the Phillies

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Speaker 2: that was matched exactly by the Orioles. So it was

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Speaker 2: easy for the Oriols to turn around and say, okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll get pet A Lonzo. How about this? Though Austin

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates had the highest annual value. Now, the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh offer was only four years, but their value annually

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Speaker 2: was higher than any of the other four teams. Ben Verlander,

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Speaker 2: as you've said, and many have said, the perfect fit,

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Speaker 2: the hometown guy, and the low ball offer came from

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Speaker 2: the Reds. It just on so many levels as maddening.

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Speaker 5: There's also a report out there from Bob Nightingale that

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Speaker 5: says the Reds could get up to the same offer

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Speaker 5: as Philadelphia. I don't buy that, ver I don't believe it.

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Speaker 5: I do not believe that to be true whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there were incentives. I'm sure there was deferred money.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there was a path for him to, you know,

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Speaker 5: explore getting close to that, yep. But it was never

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Speaker 5: just front and dry as hey, you come play for us,

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Speaker 5: we'll pay you this. And it's a shame, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I I don't know, like what else we can say no,

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Speaker 5: because now they'll pivot and they'll try to make some

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Speaker 5: stupid move and they'll try to convince everybody that they're trying.

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Speaker 5: When that's out the window, it's over. Like you had

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Speaker 5: your opportunity and you blew it, and no one takes

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Speaker 5: you seriously. And I'm glad that the Reds are getting

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Speaker 5: raked through the coals by the national media because they've

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Speaker 5: been such an irrelevant franchise for the last thirty years

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Speaker 5: that nobody's cared enough to actually criticize them. And now

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Speaker 5: finally they're getting reprimanded by the national media the way

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Speaker 5: that they should be, because they are a joke of

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Speaker 5: a franchise.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it is uh, it's time to break. We don't

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Speaker 2: get Mowager for quick kits, so we will finish up

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Speaker 2: today's edition of Cincy three sixty next right here on

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Speaker 2: the Home of the Bengals ESBN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time for.

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Speaker 1: Quick hits on Tony Pikes Cincy three sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is quick kits sincey three sixty thanks

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Speaker 2: to Penn Station. Here's what I did. Austin, I text

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Speaker 2: Moeger was looking for mo He's not here, but his

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Speaker 2: show's coming up, and I said, Mo, what do you

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Speaker 2: got coming up on the show today? You want me

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Speaker 2: to let you know? Can I share with you what

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Speaker 2: Mo's got coming up? He's got Chad Breundle, Oh, no kidding,

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Speaker 2: bearcat jono dot com. Chad Brendle will join Mo to

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Speaker 2: talk some probably Liberty Bowl and UC basketball. He's got

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Speaker 2: Jay Morrison joining the program today. Jay Morrison will join

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Speaker 2: Moeger Rob Wintrob. Do we know what Rob does? Rob

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Speaker 2: writes about the Bengals. Rob, We'll talk to Mo about

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Speaker 2: the Bengals. He also had this to say, of course,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is unhappy. He then said, why do some

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Speaker 2: baseball fans hate stars? And then he said this, are

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Speaker 2: Ohio State fans paying attention?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, but he asked, and

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Speaker 2: he will ask today. Are Ohio State fans paying attention?

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Speaker 2: I look forward to that. That's Moeger's show today.

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Speaker 5: Are Bearcats fans paying attention? Because they just lost a

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Speaker 5: pretty integral part of their footation. This was a big

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Speaker 5: one being reported that Jack Griffith, who heads the Cincinnati

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Speaker 5: Bearcat portal operations in their football department, he's heading to

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Speaker 5: Penn State to join Matt Campbell lead the Ninney Lions.

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Speaker 5: Griffith was an integral part in recruiting players like Brendan Soresby,

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Speaker 5: Jake Goldey, Cyrus Allen, Evan Pryor, and others. According to

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Speaker 5: Keegan Nickoson, and now Jack Griffith is hitting the road. Jack,

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Speaker 5: He's going up to College Penn Station or Head Valley

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Speaker 5: or whatever that place is called.

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Speaker 2: It's a big loss for the Bearcats. And Keegan has

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Speaker 2: has talked about this, and he's wrote about this. The

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Speaker 2: advanced scouting and that side of things you see has

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Speaker 2: been ahead of the curve, and a loss like that

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Speaker 2: is very detrimental when it comes to the building blocks

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Speaker 2: in the future of the program.

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Speaker 5: Some other baseball news, the Atlanta Braves have signed closer

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Speaker 5: Robert Swarez to a forty five million dollar deal over

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Speaker 5: three years. Robert Suarez was leading the National League in

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Speaker 5: saves for a while last year. But he's not going

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Speaker 5: to be the closer for Atlanta. Apparently he's going to

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Speaker 5: be the setup man for Rossell Iglesias, former Red former

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Speaker 5: Red Rossell Iglesias. The Braves have invested a lot in

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Speaker 5: pitching already this offseason. This of course, is going to

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Speaker 5: be their first season without Skipper. Gosh, what was that

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Speaker 5: guy's Brian Snitker. Yes, yeah, snit snit Yeah. Reds haven't

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Speaker 5: made any moves.

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Speaker 2: Surprising.

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Speaker 5: There was a left hander that the Pirates signed the

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Speaker 5: other day. Oh and it was a seven and a

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Speaker 5: half million dollar deal.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: So if the Reds only have five to ten million

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Speaker 5: dollars to spend now need a left handed reliever. I

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Speaker 5: don't know that you're going to find a halfway decent one.

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Speaker 3: For that price.

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Speaker 2: It it could things tough. Latest on Hereroll Moore. He

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Speaker 2: is expected in court on Friday, so he's expected to

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Speaker 2: pee to appear in court. You get more understanding of

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Speaker 2: the charges when that happens tomorrow. And Indiana quarterback Fernando

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Speaker 2: Mendoza is named the AP Player of the Year in

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Speaker 2: college football.

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Speaker 5: I would expect him to win the Heisman Trophy. I

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Speaker 5: can't comment on that because I have a vote. Well,

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Speaker 5: you're allowed to comment on I don't want to comment

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Speaker 5: on it yet.

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Speaker 2: College hoop tonight, Iowa State, the fourth range team in

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Speaker 2: the country, will take on Iowa. That's always a good

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Speaker 2: rivalry in the hardwood. And Thursday Night football gets underway

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Speaker 2: with Week fifteen. Who you got tonight Austin. Uh you

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Speaker 2: know me Division home Thursday night, five and a half.

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Speaker 2: You good laying the five and a half.

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Speaker 5: Falcons will lose big time to the Tampa Bay Book.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, you know what you mentioned, man, Those those orange

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Speaker 2: unis cream sickles, cream sickles that they're gonna wear tonight.

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Speaker 2: And we mentioned earlier. That's a Tampa Bay team that

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Speaker 2: gets McMillan back, Mike Evans back, their wide receiver corps

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Speaker 2: is now healthy as they've been all year. That should

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Speaker 2: be a big boost. They got Bucky Irving back a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, should be a big boost for

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield and that offense in Tampa. Getting Week fifteen

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Speaker 2: underway in the National Football League, I believe we're done.

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Speaker 2: I believe Mowegar is next. Stick around ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports station. The Mullager Show comes up next.

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