1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: We're listening to. Well, here's the best legal analyst on earth, 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett. And make sure you get his books The 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Constitution and Other Patriotic Documents, Great Book and Trial of 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: the Century. All of his books. Greg Jarrett's books are 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: on Amazon. Of course, you can see them all over 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Fox News and his columns at foxnews dot com. Greg Jarrett, 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: how you doing. 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Of hi, Mark? Thanks for having me on. 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Where do we even start? Minnesota? You know, the police 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: refuse to maintain order there, keep the protesters separate from 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: the cops. But the president, if he wanted to, could 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: actually send him the military to do that, couldn't he? 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely he could. And in fact Justice Kavanaugh in 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: a recent opinion pointed that out that the president has 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: Article two authority that's inherent and has other statutes, and 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: he surely meant the Insurrection Act to send in troops 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: to Minneapolis, stop the attacks on federal agents, the attacks 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: on federal property. And throughout history we have seen fifteen 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: presidents invoke the Insurrection Act under similar circumstances. The president 20 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: has the power. I did write in a recent column 21 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: explaining the president's power that Minnesota may not be quite 22 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: near the standard for riots and destruction that would justify 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: such a move. You know, calling in federal troops could 24 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: incite more protests, and you know, having the power to 25 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: act is always tempting, but wisdom is often found in restraint, 26 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: and I think the President has exercise that he's attempting 27 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: to defuse the situation there. He's made some changes in 28 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: the leadership on sight in Minnesota and pulling back some 29 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: of the ICE and Border Patrol personnel, mostly because you know, 30 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: they've accomplished a lot of what they intended to do there, 31 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: so you know, sort of time to move on. But 32 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: you know, as far as all of the violence that 33 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: has taken place there, Tim Wall, the governor, Jacob Fry, 34 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: the mayor, they bear blame. I mean, they embraced sanctuary 35 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: status for criminal aliens, they refuse to cooperate with ICE. 36 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: Then they publicly in front of cameras, gin up the 37 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: street rage against federal law enforcement, and that only fueled 38 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: the agitators and the anarchists to harass and impede and 39 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: even get into fire with ICE agents. I mean, what 40 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: did the mayor and governor think was going to happen? Inevitably? 41 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: You know, somebody armed was going to show up and 42 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: bloodshed would ensue. 43 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Are these even protesters? The protesters the guy standing over 44 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: there with a sign yelling. But when you physically try 45 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: to stop law enforcement operation, where you physically go into 46 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: a church and try to interrupt the service, that's no 47 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: longer protesting. That's beyond protesting. 48 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously. And you know, look, it's always a terrible 49 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: idea to show up at a law enforcement operation and 50 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: blowing whistles and harassing with a gun stuffed in your 51 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: waist belt, and then you know, actively injecting yourself by 52 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: interfering with the officers, resisting arrest, trying to you know, 53 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: subdue another protester, I mean, getting into a physical fight 54 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: with agents. Bad idea. When you do that, terrible things 55 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: can happen. Because it's a crime to obstruct officers who 56 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: are doing their jobs. 57 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: That's an important point. If you pull your car in 58 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: the middle of the street and block them from moving, 59 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: or if they're trying to do something and you try 60 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: to stop the operation, that is actually a crime, right there, isn't. 61 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: It, Yeah, it absolutely is. You're obstructing justice, obstructing law enforcement. 62 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: You are arguably engaging in an assault and battery of 63 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: a law enforcement official. It's a variety of crimes. And 64 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: you know, Mark, you bring up the church protest. Yeah, 65 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: you know, the right to protest does not extend to 66 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: private property, and it certainly does not extend to churches. 67 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: They are protected spaces by law. So the mob that 68 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: stormed the church and terrorized and tormented the congregation, they 69 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: can and should be prosecuted for a variety of crimes, 70 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: including trustpath disorderly conduct, but most importantly violating what's known 71 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: as the Face Act. It is a civil rights law 72 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: that strictly protects houses of worship from threats and intimidation 73 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: here against Christians. And you know, Don Lemon could also 74 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: be prosecuted as a willing participant. He embedded himself with 75 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: the mob, knowing full well that they intended to commit 76 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: crimes by invading the church. And you know, just calling 77 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 2: yourself a journalist is not a defense and the First 78 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 2: Amendment is not a shield from criminal charges. 79 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Now, some of the protesters argue the church is open 80 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: to the public. Anybody's allowed to come in, but you're 81 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: not allowed to distup it or stop the service. 82 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: That is correct, And you know it's private property. They 83 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: have their rules worshipers are welcome, but these were not worshipers. 84 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: This was a mob who you know, decided to trespass 85 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: out of that property, hault the service of people worshiping. 86 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: And that's, as I say, a violation of the Face 87 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: Act and a companion statute eighteen USC. Two forty seven 88 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: in the Criminal Code. 89 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Hey, when guys like you say, you know it's about 90 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: law eighteen c. Two seventy four, how do you guys 91 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: remember that? How do you remember all these numbers? That's 92 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: an incredible feat. 93 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. You learn some of it in 94 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: law school, others in the practice of law. But you 95 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: know here, I knew there was a law, and when 96 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: it happened, I you know, looked it up and it's 97 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: right there in plain English. 98 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know, there's some people in the President's ear 99 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: now telling them pull out them Innesota. Just announce, just 100 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: call their bluffs that we're leaving Minnesota. We're pulling out completely. 101 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: You can have all your illegals. Let's see how this 102 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: works out for you. But that's not a good idea, 103 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: is it would just encourage the rioters. 104 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: Well, rioters and protesters don't get veto power over federal law. Enforcement, 105 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: and neither do states. So the question becomes, have we 106 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: done enough? And I don't know what the percentage is, 107 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: but it's somewhere around seventy percent of their objectives have 108 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: been accomplished, so it's time to scale back, and that's reasonable. 109 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: They did that in Los Angeles. They had achieved what 110 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: they wanted to achieve for the most part, so they 111 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: reduced their operations and their personnel. Makes perfect sense. 112 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Hey, now the federal government, their law enforcement, their troops. 113 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: They're legally entitled to inter a city and do whatever 114 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: they have to do. Correct the federal law overtakes the 115 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: local law. 116 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it's the supremacy clause. And you know federal 117 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: law supersedes state law whenever there is a conflict. So 118 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: you know, for example, the state has hauled off and 119 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, file a lawsuit to evict all Ice from Minnesota. Well, 120 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: you know, they're idiots if they think the law supports that, 121 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: because it doesn't. As I said before, you know, states 122 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: don't get to dictate what the federal government does in 123 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: terms of law enforcement. The supremacy clause of the Constitution 124 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: makes that abundantly clear, and the US Supreme Court has 125 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: consistently upheld the supremacy clause and the right of federal authority. 126 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Gregg Jared, great stuff mcginny's books. By the way, 127 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I love Trial of the Century. It's one of the 128 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: best books. And the latest book is the content to 129 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: other patriotic documents. Are you working on a new book? 130 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm taking a break. Palell writing books. Who's an 131 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: onerous process. And I deserve a break after four books. 132 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: I know, but we deserve another book. They're all great books. 133 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: And just go to Amazon. Thank you. 134 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 135 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: You get Greg Jarrett's books and read his columns, and 136 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: of course Foxnews and foxnews dot Com. Great stuff, Greg Jarrett, 137 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. My pleasure. Mark, Take care, 138 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: take care. It is a very tough thing to write 139 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: a book. I've been trying to do it for years. 140 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I think I got so far half a page. 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