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Speaker 3: Yes, Rocket, it is Halloween week. What are you going
Speaker 3: out here this year?
Speaker 2: Ed?
Speaker 4: You're going with the slutty bartender outfit again?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go slutty nurse this year. And just how
Speaker 5: that works out for me, which you know, yeah, man,
Speaker 5: why not? You know it's worth in the past.
Speaker 4: How about you slutty fireman?
Speaker 5: Slutty fireman one this year? I get I well, Bo
Speaker 5: would go out by himself. He's old enough to go
Speaker 5: by himself. But do you take the little guys out someplace?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll find somewhere right here and go.
Speaker 3: Do you go with him? Or does uh? Does Kelly
Speaker 3: go with?
Speaker 4: I feel like I thought last year I was out
Speaker 4: of they had a game or something, and so I can't. Hey, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 4: we'll figure it out. You know what you need to
Speaker 4: do is take them on a ghost tour and I
Speaker 4: have just there you go, and I have just the
Speaker 4: person for you.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 5: It is our guest from American Legacy Tours. And of
Speaker 5: course we're talking about the ghost tours they have going
Speaker 5: on right now. And the stuff she is seeing along
Speaker 5: the way on said ghost tours. She is our good friend,
Speaker 5: Miranda McGhee, Miranda, always our pleasure.
Speaker 6: I'm so glad you called. I was working on my
Speaker 6: slutty kangaroo costume. Sorry, this is great timing, guys, so
Speaker 6: maybe we should all meet up together slutty like sludy, sluttychanger.
Speaker 6: It's got a really big pouch. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3: That sounds like the beginning of a really good joke.
Speaker 6: I've gone too far. I've gone too far, guys.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're on the Rocky Show. You've not gone too far.
Speaker 5: So Miranda, I'm looking at your guys's schedule here and
Speaker 5: it looks as though you have just a couple of
Speaker 5: tours for like Tomorrow night and on Halloween night, just
Speaker 5: a couple, yeah.
Speaker 6: And on Saturday as well November first. But they are
Speaker 6: selling out like crazy, so if you want to get in,
Speaker 6: now is the time, which is great for us because
Speaker 6: everybody the spirits have been incredibly active this season. I'm
Speaker 6: so glad you texted me last night, Eddie to be like, hey,
Speaker 6: do you want to talk about it? Because my husband
Speaker 6: won't listen to my ghost stories. Anymore. He's like, oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, just what November come already? And I'm like,
Speaker 6: but wait, this happens. He's a huge skeptic, so he
Speaker 6: doesn't believe any of it. And I'm like, but then, okay,
Speaker 6: you guys get this Eddie Rocky all right. So I
Speaker 6: took him down to the tunnels where we go for
Speaker 6: our Nightmare on Elm Street tour because somebody proposed down
Speaker 6: there and they wanted to have me hide the ring.
Speaker 6: I don't know, they're like history buff. We get down
Speaker 6: into the tunnels, just the two of us, and he
Speaker 6: started to look a little nervous. He was like, oh,
Speaker 6: it is kind of spooky down here. That's my that's
Speaker 6: my Lexington accent. Here's from Lexington.
Speaker 2: And it was really good, by the way, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like good.
Speaker 6: He's like, oh, it's just kind of freaky. And he
Speaker 6: were getting increasingly freaked out while I'm trying to work
Speaker 6: out way to hide the string, and finally he just
Speaker 6: yelled out. He yelled to the tunnels. He said, well,
Speaker 6: y'all can't hurt me because because Jesus, he just yelled out,
Speaker 6: Jesus solid argument.
Speaker 5: As long as I've just went and down does scream
Speaker 5: Jesus and.
Speaker 6: Jesus, you got your back, you got me. I thought
Speaker 6: it anyway, so that's why I was glad. He's like,
Speaker 6: I'm glad you're talking to Eddie and Rocky, so I
Speaker 6: don't have to listen to it anymore.
Speaker 5: Okay, So well let's we We talked to you of
Speaker 5: the last couple of years, and every year you've got stories.
Speaker 3: What are some of the latest?
Speaker 6: So I don't know if I ever talked to you guys,
Speaker 6: because I just saw this the other day at the
Speaker 6: Campbell County Courthouse. Have you guys ever been there? I mean,
Speaker 6: Rocky you must have been there a few times, right
Speaker 6: the courthouse.
Speaker 4: I haven't been in trouble with the laws, that's.
Speaker 3: It's the last time he went on a slutty fire.
Speaker 4: But out there, yeah, it was a big hit case.
Speaker 6: That's what I thought. So the Campbell County Courthouse, which
Speaker 6: by the way, was built between eighteen eighty three and
Speaker 6: eighteen eighty four for a whopping one thousand dollars. Wow,
Speaker 6: I know inflation right by the way, You guys, my
Speaker 6: friend's hate but I have this job. We're like walking
Speaker 6: down the street and I'm like, you know in eighteen
Speaker 6: fifty they're like, oh my gosh, stop it. Anyway, so
Speaker 6: the courthouse that was the last execution that was done
Speaker 6: there was for the murderers of Pearl Brian. Do you
Speaker 6: guys remember Pearl Brian. Have you heard about her?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: Okay, it may start sounding for familiar. It made pretty
Speaker 6: massive news around here in the eighteen hundreds, but it's
Speaker 6: still talked about today. She was a young lady in
Speaker 6: the late eighteen hundreds eighteen ninety six, she was twenty
Speaker 6: two years old from Indiana, and a guy from Cincinnati,
Speaker 6: Scott Jackson, decapitated her because she got pregnant out of
Speaker 6: wedlock and he didn't want to have to deal with
Speaker 6: the baby, so he decapitated her while she was still alive.
Speaker 6: And it's rumored the head was never found, and it's
Speaker 6: rumored to be under where Bobby Mackie's used to be,
Speaker 6: which is why Bobby Mackie's was felt wanted over the
Speaker 6: other side of the river.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Sure, And anyway, so they get these guys, Scott Jackson
Speaker 6: and Alonzo Walling. They drugged her with cocaine and then
Speaker 6: decapitated her in Fort Thomas, and left the body, but
Speaker 6: took the head and they took it like once they
Speaker 6: decapitated her. They put her head in a bag and
Speaker 6: then went to a pub and they gave the bag
Speaker 6: to the bartender to take care of while they were drinking.
Speaker 6: And the bartender was like, ooh, this is heavy. Is
Speaker 6: there a bowling bowl in here? And Scott Jackson, guy
Speaker 6: that murdered, he just smiled. He was like yes. And
Speaker 6: then when they were hanged on the lawn right in
Speaker 6: front of Newport, in front of Campbell County Courthouse, the
Speaker 6: ropes were not measured correctly, so instead of jumping and
Speaker 6: having their necks broken, they slowly strangled to death over
Speaker 6: a few minutes, which I call karma. But because of that,
Speaker 6: we were at Campbell County Courthouse the other day. There's
Speaker 6: a man that stands in the bell tower and we
Speaker 6: think that's Scott Jackson still because he died in a
Speaker 6: slow way, that his spirit is still hanging around as
Speaker 6: it should be because he did a really terrible thing.
Speaker 5: Yes, Now, what do you when you see something like that?
Speaker 5: Are you just seeing a shadowy figure or is there
Speaker 5: a face attached to it?
Speaker 6: Or what it was? When I saw him we were
Speaker 6: there sort of late at night training on a tour
Speaker 6: and I looked up and I just saw like it
Speaker 6: looked like there was a man in the bell tower.
Speaker 6: And I looked up and I turned to my fellow
Speaker 6: guy Laura. I was like, Hey, there's a guy up there.
Speaker 6: And then we looked back and he wasn't there. And
Speaker 6: She's like, no one's ever in the belt. How you
Speaker 6: must have seen the ghosts of Scott Jackson. Wow? Now wow?
Speaker 4: So and this is like, I mean, is this a
Speaker 4: pretty well known one or is this a little bit
Speaker 4: more obscure.
Speaker 6: I guess Pearl Brian made like nationwide news in the
Speaker 6: eighteen hundreds, and people just know because Bobby Mackie's used
Speaker 6: to like really sort of cash in and on that
Speaker 6: story because they never did find her head, and there
Speaker 6: was rumors that there was a satanic cult in the
Speaker 6: basement of Bobby Mackie's and so, and they apparently brought
Speaker 6: the head there as an offering to their dark lord.
Speaker 6: I know. Anyway, Bobby Mackie's isn't there anymore.
Speaker 5: But let me ask you that, because that's a we'd
Speaker 5: years ago on the boarding show. We'd spent the well,
Speaker 5: we had our producers spend the night in there, and uh,
Speaker 5: it just so happens that a couple of day other
Speaker 5: guys from the show stayed there and hid in the
Speaker 5: in the attic or something, of course, and they were
Speaker 5: they were putting, they were making noise and banging on
Speaker 5: pipes and stuff, and that poor guy had wet himself
Speaker 5: so hard by the time we got there in the
Speaker 5: morning he could barely talk. But I'm not kidding you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and well and well you well, you know this story, Marianda.
Speaker 5: That wasn't there always like a rose scented perfume or
Speaker 5: something connected with her appearance or I forget what it was.
Speaker 5: But they they sprayed like, you know, some of the
Speaker 5: like room deodorizer stuff with the floral scent to it.
Speaker 5: And He's like, I smelled the flowers. I smelled the flowers.
Speaker 5: I heard the noise. Uh you know, that was a funny.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 6: You started to say we spent the night there, and
Speaker 6: you're like.
Speaker 5: No, So so now you've talked before about having actual
Speaker 5: physical contacts with these things. Has anything like that happened
Speaker 5: to you lately?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So on our Ultimate Queen City Haunted Tour, which is
Speaker 6: really cool. We go through like you know, you hear
Speaker 6: the dark history of Washington Park, which you gentlemen know
Speaker 6: about that it used to be three separate cemeteries and
Speaker 6: half the park has never been dug up. So there's
Speaker 6: still heaps of bodies in Washington Park, which is exactly
Speaker 6: why the dog park is paved over, because they don't
Speaker 6: want the little puppas digging around like coming up with
Speaker 6: a femur.
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't notice.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the children's playground as well. There's heaps of bodies
Speaker 6: under the children's playground as well. So the record was
Speaker 6: destroyed through the fires we've had at city Hall and
Speaker 6: the courthouse, so nobody knew about the bodies until twenty
Speaker 6: eleven when they did the forty eight million dollar renovation
Speaker 6: and dug out the underground parking garage. Then they found
Speaker 6: all the bodies.
Speaker 4: Now, how many how many do you think? How many
Speaker 4: do they say that there are down there? Would they guess?
Speaker 6: So down the north end, the part they dug out
Speaker 6: for the underground parking garage, they found seven three graves
Speaker 6: because at the time, in eighteen sixty, they used to
Speaker 6: be three separate cemeteries. This is hilarious. You guys. In
Speaker 6: the eighteen sixties, they decided they wanted to do something
Speaker 6: nice for over the Rhine because it was three separate cemeteries.
Speaker 6: They like, you know what, let's change this into a park.
Speaker 6: So they put out a city wide announcement saying, hey,
Speaker 6: if you have people buried here, can you come get them?
Speaker 6: Because they're trying to build a park. I know, right.
Speaker 4: I was like, are a major inconvenience here?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What a nuisance Grandpa?
Speaker 6: You know, I was really upset when the metro went
Speaker 6: up by like ten percent. I was like, two dollars
Speaker 6: twenty to ride the metro. Now, I imagine going to be
Speaker 6: asked to pick up like your relatives is probably a
Speaker 6: bigger ask. So I had to think about that perspective.
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, I can get twenty cents. I
Speaker 6: don't have to go dig up great great uncle George.
Speaker 6: So they put out a city wide announcement saying, yeah,
Speaker 6: can you come get your relatives? A few people did,
Speaker 6: but a lot of people were like, no, we're not
Speaker 6: doing that. So then the city, because it was eighteen sixty,
Speaker 6: they just plucked out the headstones, put three feet of
Speaker 6: dirt on top, and cold it a day because it
Speaker 6: was eighteen sixty, they're like, who's gonna know? Wow, and
Speaker 6: this is you don't know until you know. And then
Speaker 6: twenty eleven is when we found that out that all
Speaker 6: those bodies there. So we found seventy three graves in
Speaker 6: the north end. The South end which hasn't been dug up.
Speaker 6: We've used ground penetrating radar. There are so many bodies
Speaker 6: in the South End. So you know those beautiful lawns.
Speaker 6: Somebody on my tour the other day we walked into
Speaker 6: Washington Park. She said, oh my gosh, I got married
Speaker 6: right on these lawns and I had to do it.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, people were dying to go to
Speaker 6: that wedding. You guys like that joke? Yeah? Perfect, thank you.
Speaker 4: So that's it was so funny, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 4: go ahead, Sorry, no, what's funny by the way. Sorry yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I was just saying like like we think they're like ohing,
Speaker 4: and you know, back in the day, things were, you know,
Speaker 4: a little more pure and refined. No, just just push
Speaker 4: more dirt over these bodies here. No one cares, you know,
Speaker 4: dig a mob, whatever, doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: It was the worst back then, and the medical colleges.
Speaker 6: At the time eighteen hundred, the only bodies they could
Speaker 6: get to practice on the medical students were from executed prisoners.
Speaker 6: It was taboo to donate your body to science, and
Speaker 6: so Ohiomedical College did an unprecedented thing. They were located
Speaker 6: on Yne Street. They started saying, hey, if you give
Speaker 6: us a body, because obviously they were desperate for bodies.
Speaker 6: They're like, if you give us the body, we will
Speaker 6: pay you one hundred and twenty five dollars, no questions asked.
Speaker 6: So two things became incredibly popular in Cincinnati, murder and
Speaker 6: grave robbing. The Ohio Medical College became known as the
Speaker 6: Ohio Murder College because they had so many bodies that
Speaker 6: started selling them to different universities like the University of Michigan.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: And then they had to rebrand, so now they're the
Speaker 6: College of Medicine at the University of Cincinnati. So go back, caps.
Speaker 4: Well, if you know this story, I mean tied to
Speaker 4: that though, is you know Bill Cunningham, right of course,
Speaker 4: uh noon to three. One of his ancestors, Old Cunney,
Speaker 4: was a grave robber in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: This is true, honest to god facts. Ask him about
Speaker 3: it and he'll tell you. We'll probably have to. We're
Speaker 3: going to talk to him at five o'clock. Then we
Speaker 3: have to ask him to go through all this. But yeah,
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 4: He was a grave robber for that very reason.
Speaker 3: It was profitable, so.
Speaker 6: He was a very rich man.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 6: We will make me a dollar twenty five a day
Speaker 6: and one hundred and twenty five dollars to a body.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, one hundred and twenty five dollars
Speaker 5: a body that went a long way back then.
Speaker 3: Man, huge, Yeah he did.
Speaker 6: It's about I think it's about fifteen hundred dollars today,
Speaker 6: But to go way back, I'm sorry. You guys asked
Speaker 6: me if i'd had the experiences recently on that to
Speaker 6: Queen City Haunted. Not only do we go through washing Pok,
Speaker 6: but we go into the Symphony Hotel. Have you guys
Speaker 6: been to the Symphony Hotel right by Music Hall.
Speaker 3: I've seen it, but i'd never.
Speaker 6: Been in it. I have not. That's kiud. You guys
Speaker 6: probably give it a wide berth. You're like, oh, it
Speaker 6: feels creepy. You should send your producers in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, spend the night.
Speaker 6: Yeah, tellan to spend the night in the Mozart room.
Speaker 6: So the Symphony Hotel back in the nineteen forties was
Speaker 6: called the Clyde Hotel, which you could rent a room
Speaker 6: for just a couple of hours. And there was a
Speaker 6: lady of the night. We'll call her Monica. Her name
Speaker 6: is actually Monica, but we'll call her a lady of
Speaker 6: the night. But you know what she kind of did
Speaker 6: for work. And in the Mozart room she was murdered
Speaker 6: by a client who was unsatisfied, and then he rolled
Speaker 6: her in the carpet and stuffed her under the bed.
Speaker 6: And she is very active in that room. The other week,
Speaker 6: I had a couple on the tour. The boyfriend obviously
Speaker 6: didn't want to be there. He'd been like dragged there
Speaker 6: and we left the Mozart room and he's like, Miranda,
Speaker 6: I just had something really weird happened. I thought my
Speaker 6: girlfriend put her arm around my waist, but then I
Speaker 6: looked at her and she was like on the other
Speaker 6: side of the room. So Monica still likes to flirt
Speaker 6: with the men. And if you stay the night in
Speaker 6: the room, as your producer will obviously do, if you're
Speaker 6: laying alone in the bed, you'll feel the bed settle
Speaker 6: next to you as if somebody has gotten into the
Speaker 6: bed with you and the sheets get flipped up and
Speaker 6: people get their feet tickled, so we think it's Monica
Speaker 6: still doing her job.
Speaker 5: Wow, that sounds like my single days with the With that, Miranda,
Speaker 5: we will, we will let you go. People want to
Speaker 5: find out more about these ghost tours. Where can they go?
Speaker 6: Just to American Legacy Tours dot com. I would encourage
Speaker 6: them to book soon because we are filling up to
Speaker 6: this last weekend appointed season and Eddie, Now, I'm just
Speaker 6: thinking about your single days and your feet being tickled,
Speaker 6: So I guess you guys can talk.
Speaker 3: Could have better ghost kudos. I don't know what was
Speaker 3: going on, doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, Miranda, Thanks so much.
Speaker 6: All right, I can't wait to see you guys in
Speaker 6: sludy costumes out together. It'd be great.
Speaker 5: Get to get your kangaroo together and kangaroo and ready
Speaker 5: off we go.
Speaker 3: I love it, alright, saved, Thanks brand with that. We
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