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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW presents Sunday Morning Sports Talk

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Speaker 1: with your host Ken Brew on News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Oh here we go. We got no football today, you know,

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Speaker 2: of course, Probol activities are what they are, and we

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Speaker 2: look forward to that as the week progresses, and then

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is Sunday, and that's it. Go on

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Speaker 2: a hibernation with regards to football for about the next

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Speaker 2: six or seven months. But nevertheless, we have that game

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Speaker 2: to talk about and we will as today progresses, among

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Speaker 2: a myriad of other things. Two of the top musicians

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Speaker 2: in pop music history are coming to the Ludlow Garage.

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Speaker 2: We'll visit with them here in the next hour or so.

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Speaker 2: And college basketball, you know, we can start at a

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Speaker 2: number of different places. We can start about UC struggling

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Speaker 2: again on the road in Houston and just how undermanned

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Speaker 2: they are and when put up against these other teams,

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Speaker 2: particularly inside their own conference, they struggle full staff or not.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about an exciting win at the Sintash

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Speaker 2: Center yesterday for Xavier, But I want to start with

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Speaker 2: the Miami RedHawks. The Miami RedHawks, they are one of

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Speaker 2: two unbeaten college basketball teams at this point in the season,

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Speaker 2: the other being Arizona twenty two in a row. They

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Speaker 2: went to twenty two and oh yesterday ten and oh

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Speaker 2: in the MAC. This is the longest winning streak in

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Speaker 2: the history of the Mid American Conference. That's what Miami

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Speaker 2: is in the middle of right now, after an eighty

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Speaker 2: five sixty one win yesterday at Mallet over NIU Northern

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Speaker 2: Illinois University. You know, there have been times, even with

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Speaker 2: good coaches, even with great players, there have been there

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Speaker 2: have been times that Mollett Hall, which hosts Miami basketball

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Speaker 2: on the campus up there in Oxford, there have been

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Speaker 2: times when, even in good times, that place has been

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Speaker 2: a mausoleum. It has been more of a of a

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Speaker 2: theater setting, listening to a symphony as opposed to a

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Speaker 2: basketball game. It's been so quiet in that hall throughout

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Speaker 2: the course of history, where you could actually hear coaches

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Speaker 2: barking out orders and players talking to each other. Not anymore,

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Speaker 2: and certainly not yesterday, as that place was rocket eighty

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Speaker 2: five sixty one. Miami held NIU to twenty three total

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Speaker 2: points in the second half. They were down five in

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Speaker 2: the second half and then went on a thirty eight

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Speaker 2: eighty five sixty one. So you can imagine everybody associated

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Speaker 2: with Miami basketball on that campus. They're feeling it right now.

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Speaker 2: They're just feeling it that this thing has a chance

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Speaker 2: to be a really, really big deal come tournament time.

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Speaker 2: You're in a very short amount of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: They got to get better defensively. They've skated past some

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Speaker 2: teams whistling in the last month or so because their

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Speaker 2: defense wasn't really all that great in that particular game.

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Speaker 2: They won games where they had to score at least

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Speaker 2: one hundred to beat the other guy. So Travis Steele,

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Speaker 2: who is you know, I mean, he's got that program

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Speaker 2: humming right now. He knows that defense has got to

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Speaker 2: get better. It was better in the second half of

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Speaker 2: that game yesterday, and that's a compelling reason why Miami

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Speaker 2: wanted here is steel.

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Speaker 4: After the game, we got to start playing defense. It

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Speaker 4: it's been about three and a half games. Well we

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Speaker 4: didn't win in but like you know, it's been almost

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Speaker 4: like a tennis match, just like a rally. It's like

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Speaker 4: we score, they score, we scored, they score, and we

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Speaker 4: didn't shoot the ball well obviously tonight, and we got

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Speaker 4: to let the offensive breathe a little bit earlier, a

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Speaker 5: But again, we'll take a lot of the shots that

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Speaker 4: We still scored eighty five points or seven to twenty

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Speaker 5: That's pretty good. But again, we're not gonna shoot like

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Speaker 4: I thought, I love the looks that we had overall,

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Speaker 4: but our defense in the second half was so much better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, offensively, bran Byers gives them twenty one and Twine

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Speaker 2: that just brought the It seemed like the ceiling down

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Speaker 2: I believe he started his career at Rutgers. He's now

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Speaker 2: obviously in Oxford. And Walfork was talking after the game too,

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Speaker 2: has the ability for forty minutes. And I've seen it

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Speaker 6: I'd rather whole team to sixty points and I'll get

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Speaker 2: You know, is easier that way. I guess.

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Speaker 6: I think we can score with anybody, But if we

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Speaker 6: continue to lock in on defense, it would be Sky's

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Speaker 6: the limit before the sky would be the limit for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at Buffalo Tuesday night, At Buffalo Tuesday night, at

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Speaker 2: twenty two and oh, how long can this go on?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Nobody does in college basketball to skate through a season unbeaten.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know the teams that have been able

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Speaker 2: in the MAC before. And there's only one other team

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Speaker 2: So how long can it continue?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that Miami has won games in different ways

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Speaker 2: along the way. We know the reality of the Mid

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Speaker 2: American Conference. It is one of the most competitive basketball

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Speaker 2: the automatic qualifier is a difficult thing even in optimum conditions. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: if Miami goes through this, if they go through the

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Speaker 2: rest of the season unbeaten, and they win the MAC,

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Speaker 2: they're the only team that's going to go. If they

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Speaker 2: round two of the MAC, but they go in there

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Speaker 2: with the resume they've they've accumulated that that far, you

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Speaker 2: So the margin for era for Miami, obviously there's a

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Speaker 2: A loss in a tournament conference tournament in March could

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Speaker 2: be devastating, But you would think if they go into

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Speaker 2: just Miami from the MAC. If Miami doesn't win the

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Speaker 2: MAC tournament either way, Travis Steele asked after the game,

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Speaker 2: just how good can this get? Knowing that you're perfect

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Speaker 4: Think go as far as we want to go, all right,

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Speaker 4: We control our own destiny and the day to day

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Speaker 4: what it's going to take to continue this right, because

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Speaker 4: the further you go, the harder it gets. Right, and

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Speaker 4: How guys are built for this, but they have to

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Speaker 4: understand what's going to win and separate us is on

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Speaker 4: that defensive end, well, most nights we're gonna score near

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Speaker 4: one hundred as long as we're kicking in a few shots. Right,

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Speaker 4: Like our offense is elite, can we be that side

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Speaker 4: on the defensive side, I want to be elite too.

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Speaker 5: That's what great teams are.

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Speaker 2: At Buffalo on Tuesday night with a chance to go

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Speaker 2: twenty three and zero. All right, so I'm watching. I

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Speaker 2: watched the UC game. They were shorthanded and going into

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Speaker 2: play the number one, the number ten team in the country.

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Speaker 2: Shorthanded is never a great recipe for success, and it

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Speaker 2: wasn't yesterday. Houston seventy six. You see fifty four. One

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Speaker 2: of the talking heads at halftime in that game, I

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Speaker 2: them said something like UC would be lucky to get

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Speaker 2: got fifty four. They lose its seventy six fifty four.

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Speaker 2: They were eleven and eleven, three and six inside the

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Speaker 2: UC fifteen points in twenty eight minutes. I thought he

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Speaker 2: played awfully. Well, here's the problem. UC's backcourt turned the

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Speaker 2: Nineteen total turnovers committed by UC yesterday. That led to

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Speaker 2: who went at seventy six fifty four. And you know

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Speaker 2: after the game, Look, it's it's normal. It's normal for

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Speaker 2: a coach to just feel it at this time of

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Speaker 2: the year. Wes Miller is feeling it this time of

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Speaker 2: the year. He knows the heat is on him at

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Speaker 2: this time of the year. He knows that he's got

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Speaker 2: think he knows down deep, he's got to get to

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Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. This was Miller after the game.

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Speaker 8: But we've been in three time zones in six days.

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Speaker 8: We're down a bunch of bodies. That was a strange

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Speaker 8: deal to go from Arizona Monday Baylor Wednesday night and

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Speaker 8: they'll play a morning game here. And that's not an excuse,

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Speaker 8: but I'm saying all that because our kids are fighting.

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Speaker 8: If you heard him in the last two timeouts, they're like,

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Speaker 8: we got to finish this thing. We can't have any plays,

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Speaker 8: We don't go after the ball we got, Come on,

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Speaker 8: we got to play with better effort. Like you people

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Speaker 8: would be really proud that support our program to hear

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Speaker 2: They played West Virginia on Thursday night. It's a nice

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Speaker 2: at an Arizona because of the snowback here eleven and eleven,

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Speaker 2: three and six inside the Big twelve. But there's time

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Speaker 2: they can pick it up before that. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Lonardi and all those other alleged gurus that are predicting

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Speaker 2: the field of sixty eight, there's room in there if

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Speaker 2: They got to get people healthy. That's step one. The

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Speaker 2: ending of that Xavier game yesterday was unbelievable. It was

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Speaker 2: just flat out unbelievable. Felipe bor of Eachinen. Felipe bor

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Speaker 2: of Eachinen. You know, his college career didn't start all

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Speaker 2: that great, but he's found a home at Xavier as

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Speaker 2: much as you can find a home in college basketball anymore.

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Speaker 2: It is so nomadic for these players. But Xavier wins

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Speaker 2: it yesterday, sixty eight sixty six on a shot at

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Speaker 2: the buzzer by bor of Eachinen, sixteen points, fourteen in

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Speaker 2: the final twenty. After the game here he was fully

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Speaker 2: talking about, has you know, you know, has this happened before?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever done a game winning shot before? Has

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Speaker 2: ever happened in your college career? That's what he had

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I did in high school back at home in Serbia.

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Speaker 2: I used to take a lot of shots.

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Speaker 10: I had a lot of missus and make so but yeah,

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Speaker 10: I'm just this is just a different level enough, so

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Speaker 10: I'm happy that I made it and that we got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody needs to tell Zavier it's okay to start fast,

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Speaker 2: it's okay to play defense in the first half, and

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Speaker 2: I look. Richard Patina was happy. These coaches they want Art.

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Speaker 2: You know, they want to make everything goes well. Everything

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Speaker 2: I was don at Little Miami Brewing last night. We

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Speaker 2: Zach Peerless, how are you on this glorious Sunday.

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Speaker 15: and they just brought in a defensive coach that wants

434
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Speaker 15: to be able to get after the passer.

435
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Speaker 9: So we will see.

436
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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett and Max Crosby both got contracts with an

437
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Speaker 2: annual average value of about thirty five thirty six million dollars,

438
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Speaker 2: and I know that's what he was looking Hendrickson was

439
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: looking for here. Do you think the Ravens at pony

440
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Speaker 2: up that much for him.

441
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Speaker 9: I'm not sure if he would get that much.

442
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Speaker 15: I do think that maybe there's a way where they

443
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Speaker 15: structure things so it's front loaded for a first year

444
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Speaker 15: or a lot of guarantees. But I think that there's

445
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Speaker 15: such a there's such a difference, especially you thought this

446
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 15: year a guy like Miles Garrett or Micah Parsons. Trey

447
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 15: Henderson is awesome, and he is. There's a reason that

448
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 15: my colleague Garrett Fidel put him number two. But I

449
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 15: think he's not quite an especially when you figure in

450
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Speaker 15: the age.

451
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Speaker 9: Not quite those guys.

452
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Speaker 2: Hmm, Okay, you've got another Cincinnati connection going to the Commanders,

453
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Speaker 2: not going to the Yeah, possibly going to the Commander's

454
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Alex Pearce Alec Pierce played his college ball

455
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Speaker 2: at the University of Cincinnati. This is a guy that

456
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Speaker 2: I've been until his breakout yere a couple of years ago.

457
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: They thought who is this guy? And you know, he

458
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: looks like a bust. But I mean he is now

459
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: at worst on this list, and I think it's legitimate

460
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: the second best free agent wide receiver that will be

461
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: out there. That'd be a nice fit for the Commanders.

462
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 2: They're looking for anything, anybody that can get the ball downfield. Yeah.

463
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 15: Absolutely, And I think the note that I had in

464
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 15: there first got to go over one thousand yards while

465
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Speaker 15: also averaging at least twenty yards of catch is AJ

466
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Speaker 15: Brown in twenty nineteen. So the fact that you get

467
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Speaker 15: those explosive plays plus the production, I mean, we've seen

468
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Speaker 15: what AJ Brown has gone on to do being a

469
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Speaker 15: huge part of an Eagle's Super Bowl run was really

470
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Speaker 15: good in Tennessee for several years after that. So you

471
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Speaker 15: don't get these big play guys who have that much

472
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Speaker 15: downfield explosiveness and can catch the ball enough to get

473
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Speaker 15: to one thousand yards very often.

474
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Speaker 9: So I have been really impressed by what Alex.

475
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Speaker 15: Heearce has turned into. He's become a better route runners,

476
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Speaker 15: tougher over the middle, He catches the ball much much better.

477
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Speaker 15: And you know, you think about these wide receivers and oh,

478
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 15: you know, all every wide receiver should be able to

479
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 15: catch a ball.

480
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 9: There's a difference between being a guy.

481
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Speaker 15: Who tracks deep ball wells and a guy who goes

482
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Speaker 15: over the middle well and hangs on to you know.

483
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Speaker 9: Through contact.

484
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Speaker 15: I think that Alex heirs has become both of those things.

485
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 15: And again, only twenty five years old. That's that's really

486
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 15: a great age to catch it for a wide receiver.

487
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Speaker 2: Oh man, to be twenty five and have those skills, right,

488
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Speaker 2: I mean, that'd be unbelievable. Your top quarterback on the

489
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: list is Aaron Rodgers. You have retirement next to his name.

490
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Speaker 2: How much does Mike McCarthy now coaching the Steelers. How

491
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Speaker 2: much do you think that might change Rogers's mind about retirement.

492
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's funny. I was writing this up before they finalized.

493
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Speaker 15: It with McCarthy, and now I think if I could

494
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Speaker 15: go back and rewrite it up, I think I would

495
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 15: probably have to go back of the Steelers, which is funny,

496
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 15: just because I think I'm I'm a.

497
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Speaker 9: Big fan of not being in the middle.

498
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 15: I'm a big fan of when you need to change course,

499
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 15: you need to change course. And I don't love that

500
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Speaker 15: the Steelers didn't change course. They don't seem to want

501
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 15: to reset, and you know, take a step back or

502
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 15: two and they don't. They're not in a position to

503
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Speaker 15: really go for it, and they haven't been for probably at.

504
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Speaker 9: Least half a decade. So to me, they're the neutral fans.

505
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Speaker 15: That's one that wants to say I think it's time

506
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 15: for the Steelers to reset. Would say maybe let's clear

507
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 15: the deck and not have a great year, But from

508
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 15: ownership to the hire of McCarthy, I think that they're

509
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 15: not really too interested in doing that. So now I

510
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 15: think I'd be fifty to fifty between a return to

511
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 15: Pittsburgh and to retirement.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it. The Catharsis, it's been and

513
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: it's not over. The Steelers since the retirement of Roethlisberger

514
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: and staffing that position, and I think it has a

515
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: lot to do with the way they finish seasons. They're

516
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: always drafting it seems like in the upper team's low twenties.

517
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: With that, with having all those seasons a game or

518
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: two above five hundred, but they're never in play for

519
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: a top tier franchise quarterback. And with success, I guess

520
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: comes that baggage. But it's amazing, isn't it. They've never

521
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: recovered from Roethlisberger.

522
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Speaker 15: Exactly, and I think you can look at the guys

523
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 15: that they've started since Roethlisberger, it's really incredible. They basically

524
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 15: tried once to go with Kenny Picket in that late

525
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 15: first round range that produces some guys, but usually when

526
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 15: you look historically, that kind of back half of the

527
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 15: second round or back half of the first round isn't

528
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 15: as good at producing top tier guys. And Kenny Picket

529
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 15: is another great example of that.

530
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Speaker 9: You know.

531
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Speaker 15: Quarterback, you know, twentieth overall quarterback draft and it doesn't work,

532
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 15: and all of a sudden, Mike Tomlin says, we can

533
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 15: grind our way to nine to ten wins every year

534
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 15: with an okay quarterback. Well, is your goal to win

535
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 15: nine or ten games, or is your goal to build

536
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 15: a champion And clearly it hasn't been. This team has

537
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 15: not been championship caliber for a while, and if Aaron

538
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 15: Rodgers comes back, they will continue to not be championship caliber.

539
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're You're absolutely right. You got to go all

540
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: the way to forty fifth on your list to find

541
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: the Bengals making an acquisition, and that's been their motus

542
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: in free agency. They always seem to be bottom feeding.

543
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: They always seem to be four or five days after

544
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: the opening frenzy, with exception certainly, but I mean that

545
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: seems to be the way they play free agency. So

546
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Speaker 2: Hendrickson is your number two overall to Davian Clowney, you

547
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: have as the most likely landing spot for Cincinnati. It

548
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: seems like Clowney has been around forever. And I'm just wondering,

549
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: at at thirty two, what kind of gas do you

550
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: think he has left in the tank And do you

551
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: think there would be any any other team that would

552
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: seriously look at him at that at this point in

553
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: his career.

554
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: It's a great question.

555
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 15: I do think at this point in his career he

556
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 15: is a He's very much a part time player. Or

557
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 15: at least best suited to be a part time player.

558
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 15: I just like when you look at kind of all

559
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 15: of the more in depth metrics, he still is very good,

560
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 15: very effective both against the run and the pass, which

561
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 15: the Bengals need that they need a guy who can

562
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 15: help in both areas. He doesn't have to play all

563
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 15: of your snaps. He shouldn't be playing all the snaps

564
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 15: at this point in his career, but it's a young

565
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 15: group he could certainly help mentor there.

566
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Speaker 9: I think that he'd be a good addition there.

567
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 15: And I also think one thing that I started to

568
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 15: have appreciate about the Bangles over kind of the back

569
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 15: half of the season, you started to see some of

570
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 15: those young guys really play well on the defense, and

571
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Speaker 15: I think that was the reason they made the coordinator

572
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 15: switch last year. You start to see some guy play

573
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 15: a little bit better. I was really impressed by DJ Turner.

574
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 15: So again, like I think.

575
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Speaker 9: That this is this would be a good move just

576
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 9: to have an.

577
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 15: Adult in the room, especially when you're moving off from Hendrickson.

578
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 15: I thought that Joseph Assi is also slated to be

579
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 15: a free agent, so I think just adding an adult

580
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 15: in the room there.

581
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 9: Again, he can play forty percent of your snaft.

582
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 15: He can rush the passer a little bit, but he

583
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 15: can also give you those early downs.

584
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Speaker 9: So I thought that might be a nice place.

585
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Speaker 3: To find a one year deal.

586
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Speaker 15: Like you mentioned, they're not always the hugest shoppers in

587
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 15: free agency, this would still be an effective way to

588
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 15: fill a need.

589
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. He's on your list and you have his

590
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: most likely destination free agency back here with the Bengals,

591
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: don't I don't. I look, I'm wrong as much as

592
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm right. I just don't see a starting job that

593
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: would be open for Joe Flacco this coming season. I

594
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: think Flaco back here, and you talked about an adult

595
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: in the room. There's an adult in the room with

596
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow who I think could be somewhat of a

597
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: mentor in a less you know, crazy season where Burrow's

598
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: not hurt. I almost think that's just a no brainer

599
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: for the Bengals is to try and bring the guy back.

600
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Speaker 2: I would love to see Flaco back here, and then

601
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: if you got you got to play him in the

602
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: odd start. Knows the system you have other suitors Falcons, Colts.

603
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: He's not going to go to the Colts. Daniel Jones

604
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: is there, so well, he'll be a backup there. You

605
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: have to figure Jones will be healthy again. The Falcons

606
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: have Michael Pennix, So if you're going to be a backup,

607
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: why not a place that you like playing. I'd love

608
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: to see Flaco back here? What do you think?

609
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent. That's why I landed him back here.

610
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Speaker 15: I think Falcons and Colts my only thoughts there were

611
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 15: maybe these are places where he has a history with

612
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 15: the play collars, Kevin Stefanski obviously going to Atlanta and

613
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 15: then in Indianapolis. Joe Flacco is filled in well there

614
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 15: for Shane Steichen. But yeah, I think if Joe Flacco

615
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 15: wants to be back, the Bengals should want him back.

616
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 15: And you hit the nail on the head. Joe Burrow

617
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 15: can have a healthy quote unquote season and still miss

618
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 15: a second half of the game or a game here

619
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Speaker 15: or there, and you'd want Joe Flacco there. And Joe

620
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Speaker 15: Flaco should want to throw the ball to Jamar Chase

621
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Speaker 15: and T Higgins. So I think, I, like you said,

622
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Speaker 15: it's a no brainer for me. That was you know,

623
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Speaker 15: when you have to name fifty different landing spots, and

624
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Speaker 15: other suitors.

625
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 9: It takes a while, but Joe Flacco, this is a

626
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 9: pretty quick one for me.

627
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Speaker 2: Zach Pierlis wrote this article the top fifty free agents

628
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: in the NFL and likely landing spot. Okay, Super Bowl

629
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Speaker 2: Sunday one week.

630
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Speaker 15: Who I have the Seattle Seahawks this one. I did

631
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Speaker 15: not go back and forth with too much. I do

632
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 15: think there's a there's kind of a notion that Seattle

633
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 15: is going to blow out or even you know, if

634
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Speaker 15: it had been the Rams, whichever team won the NFC

635
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 15: Championship was going to blow out the AFC Championship winner.

636
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 15: I really don't think that that's the case. I think

637
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 15: that there's there's obviously a chance of these games can

638
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 15: go one way or another. But I just I just

639
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 15: think that the Patriots have done a good job. Now

640
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 15: that they're healthy upfront, their defensive front has done.

641
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 9: A lot better.

642
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 15: There's a world where the Seattle Pats rush just destroys

643
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 15: this game and Drake may like you've had kind of

644
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 15: all playoffs.

645
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 9: Doesn't deal well with the pressure. But there's also a

646
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 9: world where they hold up well.

647
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Speaker 15: After two weeks of preparation, or at least they hold

648
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 15: up better or they find some more answers and a

649
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 15: double move here or there against that real aggressive Seattle

650
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 15: secondary comes to fruition with one of the best deep

651
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 15: ball throwers in the in the league in Drake May.

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Speaker 15: I don't think that it'll be enough for the Patriots

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Speaker 15: to win, but I think right now I'm picking Seattle

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Speaker 15: twenty four to twenty. A big game from Jackson Smiths

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Speaker 15: and Jigbo, who has just impressed me so much this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think Seattle wins.

657
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Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be a blowout either, and I

658
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Speaker 2: just think there's too many dimensions to Seattle right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the sentimental pick would be New England just

660
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Speaker 2: because you know, you've got the former linebacker who I

661
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Speaker 2: think won what was part of four winning Super Bowl teams,

662
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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel as their head coach, and of course he

663
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Speaker 2: played at Ohio State. But yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's going to be Seattle in any event.

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Speaker 2: Great article. I love it. Zachary Peerless call him Zach

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Speaker 2: if you want. And it's the top fifty free agents

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Speaker 2: right up there, right now on cbssports dot com. Okay, Zach,

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Speaker 2: thanks for your time. We appreciate it. We'll be in touch.

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Speaker 9: Big thing much can always a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you bet it all gets underway in about a month.

671
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Speaker 2: Are they serious about fixing a defense or will they default?

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Speaker 2: Two weekend? Coach them up. I'll tell you a lot

673
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Speaker 2: about how this team wants to go forward. And again,

674
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Speaker 2: the salary cap went up big time this week or

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Speaker 2: the projection forward in twenty twenty six went a big

676
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Speaker 2: time this week. I think I think it's over three

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars now it is coming up on nine

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Speaker 2: to fifty five on this Sunday. A lot more to

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Speaker 2: get to, including Red's prospects, prospects for Anderson and Anderson

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Speaker 2: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame voting, which will

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Speaker 2: be revealed later this week, and a lot more. You're

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Speaker 2: Ten oh seven. Here we go on this Sunday. Welcome

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Speaker 2: on in. It's printed outside. Here's something to warm me up.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. Red's pitchers and catchers first workout

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Speaker 2: one week from this coming Wednesday, February the eleventh, one

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Speaker 2: week from this coming Wednesday, and then on February sixteenth,

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Speaker 2: the entire squad is in and then let the games

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Speaker 2: begin at the end of the month spring training games.

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Speaker 2: Interesting develops mint in baseball Yesterday Austin Hayes, former Red

723
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Speaker 2: who was one of the free agents remaining of really

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Speaker 2: any note one year, six million with the Chicago White Sox,

725
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Speaker 2: not unlike the deal that he signed here last year.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Hayes was hurt often when he was here,

727
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Speaker 2: and that probably in some way shape or formed sullied

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Speaker 2: the waters for the Reds and bringing him back. I

729
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Speaker 2: don't know what the Reds really are doing with their

730
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Speaker 2: every day eighth. They're either rolling the dice heavily on

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Speaker 2: Sal Stewart being that power bat in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the lineup, or they're still open for business, but their

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Speaker 2: business so far has been basically acquiring spare parts. Au

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Speaker 2: Haineo Suarez is still out there. Doesn't look like he's

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Speaker 2: going to go back to Seattle. This is a guy,

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Speaker 2: you know him. He signed here seven years, seventy seven million,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know, maybe ten years ago, maybe longer

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Speaker 2: than that, and was traded away first to Seattle and

739
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Speaker 2: then Seattle sent him mid season last year to Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Suarez hit forty nine home runs last year forty nine.

741
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Speaker 2: He had four in one game. And he's still out there.

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Speaker 2: His asking price, obviously, is a deterrent. I got into

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Speaker 2: a discussion with a number of folks middle of the

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Speaker 2: week last week about Suarez in returning here. He's a

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Speaker 2: third baseman or a DH and I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: think he fits at third here. Why would you have

747
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Speaker 2: key Brian Hayes gold Glover there. If you really thought

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Speaker 2: that Aohanego Suarez could could help you there first base,

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Speaker 2: you got Spencer Steers standing over there at third base. Now,

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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess you could move Steer to the

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Speaker 2: outfield or have a rotating DH system. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, I guess, uh. But right now, I think,

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Speaker 2: even though his asking price has gone down since November,

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Speaker 2: Suarez may be just a little too rich for the Reds.

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Speaker 2: But you know, he's still there. And as we get

756
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Speaker 2: closer to the start of the season, players want to work,

757
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Speaker 2: want to earn money. The number one prospect in all

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Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball, in every team's farm system. The

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Speaker 2: number one prospect, according to Keithlaw of Theathletic dot Com,

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Speaker 2: is Connor Griffin, shortstop outfielder, hot prospect for the Pittsburgh Pirates,

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Speaker 2: nineteen years old. Bats him as he throws them right.

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Speaker 2: And there are three Reds that have made Law's annual

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Speaker 2: list of free agents, and at number nineteen is Sal Stewart.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to get Keith on the show today

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Speaker 2: not only to explain his rankings, but go deeper into

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Speaker 2: each one of these three players and also talk about

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Speaker 2: what the Reds are doing as a farm system. He

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Speaker 2: has the Reds farm system ranked seventeenth out of thirty teams.

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Speaker 2: And he's not a big fan of the guy they

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Speaker 2: drafted last year in round number one. But Keith Law

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Speaker 2: is a baseball guru. He's one of those guys when

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Speaker 2: you subscribe to The Athletic, you say, oh, that's right,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting Keith Law with his steal. And I think

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Speaker 2: the Athletic is the best deal in all of sports journalism.

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Speaker 4: It just is.

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Speaker 2: I don't say it, I don't get paid to say.

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Speaker 2: I'm a consumer. I buy the thing and it's just

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Speaker 2: good journalism. And Law is a guy that's been around

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Speaker 2: for a very long time, long time at ESPN and

780
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Speaker 2: now with the Athletic dot Com. And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: get him on today to talk about these prospects and

782
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Speaker 2: how quickly he thinks they may make it to major

783
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Speaker 2: League Baseball. So let's bring him in. Keith Law, how

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Speaker 2: are you on this glorious Sunday.

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Speaker 17: I'm good, are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm well. We're counting down to pitchers and catchers, so

787
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Speaker 2: it can't be all that bad, right, I mean, at

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Speaker 2: least after getting whacked by the snow last week, and

789
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Speaker 2: it gives us a little something to look forward to.

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Speaker 2: And I know you are too. Your top one hundred

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Speaker 2: players are out and the guy that jumps out at

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Speaker 2: me is Sal Stewart, who had a meteoric rise through

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Speaker 2: the system last year here in Cincinnati, and I think

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Speaker 2: you and I visited last year he had just inched

795
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Speaker 2: into that top one hundred. We talked about his weight.

796
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Speaker 2: Apparently he's dropped some weight, and the club must I

797
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Speaker 2: think he is the answer to what they've been missing

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Speaker 2: in the middle of that order. We'll see what the

799
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Speaker 2: spring holds, but I know they've been reticent to make

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Speaker 2: any moves to to bolster the middle of that batting order.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like their guy is Stuart. Are they banking too

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Speaker 2: much on what Stuart might bring?

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Speaker 17: No, I don't think so. I think he's ready to

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Speaker 17: contribute in the majors right now. With the caveat that

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Speaker 17: most believed hitting prospects, even once you've hit all the

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Speaker 17: way up through Triple A, have struggled on first exposure

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Speaker 17: of big league pitching. He actually didn't if you look

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Speaker 17: at what he got in this cup of coffee last year.

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Speaker 17: But I'm not going to predict Sewdom right away. No

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Speaker 17: matter how much I believe in any position player wouldn't

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Speaker 17: predict that to the top guys. That's that Stuart has

812
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Speaker 17: pretty much done everything you could have asked of a

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Speaker 17: hitter all the way up through the miners, and he

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Speaker 17: has continued to improved as he has moved up at

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Speaker 17: each stop. And he did look comfortable facing big league

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Speaker 17: pitching in that little stint last year. He's got to

817
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Speaker 17: doubt all the indicators you could possibly want to put

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Speaker 17: get short term success, and I would hate to see

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Speaker 17: them make some kind of move that would end up

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Speaker 17: blocking him. I mean, I think ultimately I would really

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Speaker 17: like to see him be the first baseman. And I

822
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Speaker 17: know everyone's the Spencer Steer one a gold Glove last

823
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Speaker 17: year with the finalist or something like that, and you

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Speaker 17: Steer is not part of the future. Self Stewart is

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Speaker 17: put self Stewart in the positions that he needs to

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Speaker 17: be at to best develop him for the next six years.

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Speaker 17: That means putting him at first and putting Steers in

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Speaker 17: the age. Even if it is a short term hit

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Speaker 17: on your first state defense, it will make Stewart a

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Speaker 17: better player in the long run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, absolutely. I mean there's been talk about making

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Speaker 2: Steer the DH and I think that would be a

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Speaker 2: monumental mistake. I think you have to look at it

834
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Speaker 2: the way you look at it, and that is this

835
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Speaker 2: guy who is going to be around the organization will

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Speaker 2: have control over him and his status for the next

837
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Speaker 2: several years. So why not get him at the best

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Speaker 2: position in the infield. But I found this interesting. They're

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Speaker 2: talking about maybe having him play a little second base

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Speaker 2: here in spring. Yeah don't. I can't see that, can you.

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Speaker 17: I have never they talked about that for at least

842
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Speaker 17: two years. I would say, I don't see it. I'm

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Speaker 17: sure he's game. I just don't get it. I think

844
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Speaker 17: he third base was passable. I think second base requires

845
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Speaker 17: so much lateral agility and even just your ability to

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Speaker 17: turn a merty quickly to make plays like the four

847
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Speaker 17: to six does come up a lot, or to be

848
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Speaker 17: able to grant just a ball to your right where

849
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Speaker 17: you're stepping on the bag and turning your body quickly

850
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Speaker 17: to make that throw. He seems out Stewart right, turning

851
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Speaker 17: quickly is probably not part of the equation.

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Speaker 2: He obviously should point out he's a dead red hitter,

853
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: but he hadn't. He didn't I mean when I saw

854
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: him in person and obviously watching the games on television.

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Speaker 2: I mean he had all the other pitch as well.

856
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean he went he played go fish a lot early,

857
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: but I think he acquitted himself well with breaking balls

858
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Speaker 2: and his little time up here in the major leagues.

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Speaker 2: So that's an area. Really, I guess if there's a

860
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Speaker 2: growth area in his offense, that's probably where that is.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think, And that's fine, right if a guy

862
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 17: like that comes up and he struggles at once breaking

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Speaker 17: stuff major league caliber breaking stuff, or maybe it's major

864
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 17: league caliber change ups, especially now that the quarter of

865
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 17: the league is suddenly throwing kick changes and these guys

866
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 17: haven't seen a lot of those minors pitching in the majors.

867
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 17: Right now, the caliber pitching in the majors is the

868
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 17: best you've ever seen. It's also probably why these guys

869
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 17: get hurt constantly, but it is better than what they

870
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 17: even see on a ninety basis. And Triple A. I

871
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 17: do go see some Triple A games a part of

872
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 17: my job. I prefer to see the lower levels, but

873
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 17: I go to see them. It's the injury painter playing

874
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 17: triple A pitch in triple A last year to just

875
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 17: what it looked like he was coming back from injury,

876
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 17: and the gap just between the caliber of play there

877
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 17: and the caliber of your anty major league game you

878
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 17: could go see on a random Tesday night is enormous.

879
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: You just don't do it.

880
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 17: Once Pater was out of the game, the pitching was

881
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 17: just not major league caliber at all. Better than what

882
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 17: you see in a nav ball game, but not major

883
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 17: league cael burn I think that's why if Stewart struggles

884
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 17: against breaking stuff for the first half of twenty twenty six, fine,

885
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 17: that's fine. It's just part of the normal development.

886
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: By the way, how many games do you see a year?

887
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean, to get to one hundred would lead me

888
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: to believe that they're probably at least three or four

889
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: hundred players. You have to consider how many of these

890
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: games do you see in a given year.

891
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 17: So I've probably only seen gosh I got to sit

892
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 17: down count, but of the guys on my top one hundred,

893
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 17: it probably only seen sixty to seventy of them live.

894
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 17: Like host Larkinhalas with the Giant, there's not say an

895
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 17: actual game in the United States if you played the

896
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 17: BFL and the little interest I never laid on them.

897
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 17: So there's a few of those guys kicking around. There's

898
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 17: always a few guys in the threat who I just

899
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 17: can't get to because I only have so many, so

900
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 17: much budget, so many weekends. I get that somewhere between

901
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 17: seventy and eighty games, probably in person over the course

902
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 17: of the year, college, high school, minor league, fall league,

903
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 17: some years more. Some years I always have to supplement

904
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 17: by talking a lot of scouts, watching video, looking at

905
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 17: data because there's just no scenario. Ways.

906
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: You're not a run with the PAC guy. I mean,

907
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: and that's a compliment. I mean, there's a lot of

908
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: Pac mentality in scouting and whatnot, but you've never, in

909
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: my opinion, I've never been a run with the Pac guy.

910
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: Have have you ever seen a player and I know

911
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: this is probably there's probably a dozen, but I mean,

912
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: have you ever seen a player that you looked at

913
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: and you said, from jump, this guy has got what

914
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: it takes and then he gets to the majors. Is

915
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: there some sort of self satisfaction in that for you?

916
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

917
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 17: I like to be especially that direction because I think

918
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 17: I have had more sort of big successes along those

919
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 17: lines and saying, no, this guy isn't as good as

920
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 17: people say me. Nick Magrable, True Waters, Brett Jackson with

921
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 17: the Cubs. Yeah, it's good to be right. It's nice

922
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 17: to know my evaluations and I follow those as a person.

923
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 17: In addition to talking to scouts. My vau is not

924
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 17: on those guys were correct, but it and then they

925
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 17: weren't good, and that's lows. Like I would much rather

926
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 17: be high on a guy and then have him pan

927
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 17: out because that's a good scenario for advice. It's a

928
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 17: good thing for him. I remind readers like every player

929
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 17: using on a baseball field has been dreaming since he

930
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 17: was six years old of playing in the names to

931
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 17: root against the player like that, just to say I

932
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 17: want that player to fail, particularly meat. For me to

933
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 17: do that just so I could be right would feel gross.

934
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 17: So I really would much rather be the high side

935
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 17: of being right, Like you're.

936
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: Just sure, no, I And you know, it's just it's

937
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: interesting to me how all of this works out. I

938
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: worked many, many, many years ago. I worked in television

939
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: in a Texas leg market. I remember the the general

940
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: manager of that team telling me this is where a

941
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: player will make or break it at double A. It

942
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: was a double A franchise of the Rangers at the time.

943
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: This is where a player will make or break it.

944
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: Is that still true that double A is really the

945
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: watershed year for a player.

946
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 17: I think it's the first big leak. It is the

947
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 17: first going from a ball high A usually to double

948
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 17: A is the first real, really big separator in the minors,

949
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 17: and it's after the leap to the majors. I would

950
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 17: say able to double A is the second biggest, and

951
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 17: it is the step where I see a lot of

952
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 17: players stumble pars and pictures. I think I noticed it

953
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 17: more with hitters because that guy just need to hit

954
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 17: everything in high A suddenly goes up to double A.

955
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 17: And I'll never forget Nick cast is telling you this,

956
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 17: we got me more than ten years ago. Now, right

957
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 17: after you got to double A. It just happened to

958
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 17: be talking to him as the future sees, you know,

959
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 17: in double A. I just noticed there's pitchers are way

960
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 17: more able to locate their off speed stuff. They can

961
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 17: throw that slider and hit the outside corner and a

962
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 17: ball they're not doing that. And it's a simple observation,

963
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 17: but I mean the over my career, I had found

964
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 17: that could generally reach for and that is where a

965
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 17: lot of hitter struggles. They could just spin on that

966
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 17: stuff outside the zone. I'm not seeing at that. Once

967
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 17: you get to doubling, you know there's a chance to

968
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 17: strike at a different swing decision, and a lot of

969
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 17: guys can't make that adjustment or take extra time to

970
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 17: make that a joust.

971
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got Tyson Lewis at sixty eight of your

972
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: top one hundred. He was only in the Arizona Complex

973
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: like last year, did well there. But I mean, we'll

974
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 2: see what happens when he moves up. Alfred o'dono the catcher.

975
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: You have him at eighty. The Reds are going to

976
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: have financial considerations with Tyler Stevenson here very shortly in

977
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: the next couple of years. Everybody seems in the organization

978
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 2: to be high on this guy. He's an enormously sized guy,

979
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: and as you point out, when he was in high

980
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: school he was almost two tons of fun. He was

981
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty pounds. Hell yeah, but he's but

982
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: he's a catcher, and one would think that frame long

983
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: term would not be benefiting to him in that position

984
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: particular position, But as you look at his bad as

985
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: you look at him long term, would you see him

986
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: at You would have to see him at some other

987
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: position than catcher in this organization, right.

988
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 17: That's my guest. I know people would disagree. I do

989
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 17: think my view for people who have seen do know

990
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 17: a lot in person. I think I'm in the majority

991
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 17: on that, and that we see the body.

992
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: He's a good.

993
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 17: Athlete for his size. For his size, you just don't

994
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 17: think catchers who are that big. Like somebody said to

995
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 17: me the other day, just talking to a scout, and

996
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 17: he said, it's like Salvi Perez, It's Salvi Preston's thirty

997
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 17: five years old. Right, that is not what we're talking about.

998
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 17: Do you know he's nineteen and your weight generally doesn't

999
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 17: go down from there, and it's a big spring, so

1000
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 17: and also do you want to moise weight and he

1001
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 17: doesn't change the hitter necessarily, I'm leaving a catcher as

1002
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 17: long as I possibly can. You do worry about him

1003
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 17: getting hurt that much weight going up and down constantly,

1004
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 17: the extra movement, just normal wear and tear of the

1005
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 17: position that might be special entire there's a possibility I

1006
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 17: have don a rank too low not because I doubt

1007
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 17: his position than two white on the bat. He might

1008
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 17: be able to go to first base to DH and

1009
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 17: still be a staff Well, well, we'll find out.

1010
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: He'll probably start the year in Dayton. We'll see exactly

1011
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: where he winds up after the Yeah, we chatting with

1012
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: Keith Law. His top one hundred prospects are out. Three

1013
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: Cincinnati reads on his top one hundred, including south Stewart,

1014
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: who's projected into the starting lineup this year here in Cincinnati.

1015
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 2: You also did your farm system rankings broke them into tiers,

1016
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: which I thought was really good and really interesting. You

1017
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 2: have the Reds at seventeen, which is a little worse

1018
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: than the middle of the pack. And yes, Chase Chase

1019
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: Burns was here last year. Maybe Rhett Louder is here

1020
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 2: this year. I don't know, who knows. We'll see what happens.

1021
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean you at hope you said you

1022
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: said in your Verbie is that the system is bat heavy.

1023
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: Is that tempered by the fact that Burns and Louder

1024
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: are major leg ready and Burns his case already major

1025
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: leg at this point, or have they just overemphasized the

1026
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: bat in their drafting Here in the last couple of years.

1027
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 17: I think it's probably more that they draft that's heavily

1028
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 17: maybe just not quite had as much success on the

1029
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 17: pitching cross and the end development side. I would kind

1030
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 17: of say that it's across the boarding. I think Chase

1031
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 17: Burns is a success. Brett Lauder, I meant my desk guff.

1032
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 17: I don't have his medicals to be entirely clear, but

1033
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 17: I think at some point this probably have some kind

1034
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 17: of you know, elbow surgery, and this is some more time,

1035
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 17: but maybe it comes back and it's just as good

1036
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 17: the majority of guys who have these surgeries Prettuously, he

1037
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 17: doesn't have to have a fullligaerant replacement. They do come

1038
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 17: back and are just as good as they were before.

1039
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 17: And he was really really good before then. So they've

1040
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 17: clearly focused more on identifying that in international and in

1041
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 17: the draft, and I think they're a much better job

1042
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 17: of developing them. And they even had a couple of

1043
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 17: guys last year sort of mixed years. Can Collier breaks

1044
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 17: his thumb, he's not right the entire rest of the year,

1045
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 17: who I think come back and have better years this year.

1046
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 17: In general, I praised the Reds drafting and development. I

1047
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 17: think over the last ten years. I thought last year

1048
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 17: was just maybe a little more of a mix.

1049
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: Not a fan of last year's pick though. From what

1050
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: I can tell, steel Hall kid is fast. He can run.

1051
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: There's no question about Oh he is fast.

1052
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 17: I saw it run on the top of the scale

1053
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 17: and he's a real short stop. He cannot hit a

1054
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 17: breaking ball right now, and it's going to take a

1055
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 17: lot of time. He was super young and mean one

1056
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 17: of his two best attributes with he was eighteen and

1057
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 17: I think he was the second youngest player among the

1058
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 17: major prospects in the draft. So he's got more time,

1059
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 17: so there is a lot of work ahead of him

1060
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 17: to make him a major enter.

1061
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, listen, I love this every year when you

1062
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: come out with these lists, and it's fun to compare

1063
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: the other organizations and then at the end of the

1064
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: year to see, well, how did everybody do, what do

1065
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: they do? Where will they be on the list next year?

1066
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: And climbing up fast was with Sal Stewart from one

1067
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 2: hundred last year to nineteen to the major legs right now, Keith,

1068
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: great stuff. I subscribe to the Athletic and you're one

1069
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: of the main reasons why. And we appreciate your time

1070
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: here in seven hundred w welwd, thank.

1071
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 17: You my pleasure.

1072
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: Where do you play Stewart at first? I mean at third,

1073
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: Bran keep Brian Hayes. But he doesn't hit at least

1074
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't hit for average. You're not going to d

1075
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 2: h Stewart at at his age that I think that'd

1076
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 2: be foolhardy. You've got to get his bat in the lineup, though,

1077
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: particularly if you're not gonna if you're not going to

1078
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: go out and get anyone else that year and again,

1079
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: can he replicate what he did in a very short

1080
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: amount of time last fall? This year, Spring and Sal

1081
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: Stewart are going to be very very interesting to watch.

1082
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: But he can hit, and he's got Stewart projected. Law

1083
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: has Stewart projected to hit twenty five home runs this year.

1084
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: I think that could be on the low end. If

1085
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: indeed he comes into this season as billed last year,

1086
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 2: we'll see Douno is probably still well as we talked

1087
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 2: about a couple of years away. And then the third

1088
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 2: player on the list, Tyson Lewis real short sample size

1089
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 2: on him. He comes in at sixty eight three forty average,

1090
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: three ninety six on base percentage out of the Arizona

1091
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 2: Complex Legue in twenty twenty five. It is a week

1092
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: from Wednesday when it all begins, coming up on ten

1093
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: twenty six in a moment, they were part of two

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Speaker 2: coming to the Ludlow Garage here in just a couple

1097
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Speaker 1: Last Winday morning Sports Talk with your host Ken Brew

1101
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Speaker 1: on News Radio seven hundred WLW.

1102
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: One hour, Togo Bottom of the Hour, Mason Cameron, Pro Footballfocus,

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Speaker 2: dot Com, pop bets and the Super Bowl and how

1104
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Speaker 2: you can make some money. There's some crazy ones that

1105
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Speaker 2: are out there. Just you know, there's there are a

1106
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Speaker 2: lot of online services that will marry a couple of

1107
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: things like football and then just something stupid, well not stupid,

1108
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: but interesting enough. How many times will Taylor Swift be

1109
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: shown on the Jumbo trom Will it be more than

1110
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: passing your or not passing more than touchdowns scored? By

1111
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: Ramonde Stevenson. I mean, that's not what goes on at

1112
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: profootballfocus dot com. They're literally prop vets that you can

1113
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: make quarter by quarter and for the game as a whole.

1114
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: We'll get into that with Mason Cameron at about eleven

1115
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: thirty six. Also this week, on Thursday, we'll find out

1116
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: who the class of twenty twenty six is in the

1117
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. There are fifteen finalists, of

1118
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: which one will be the man that patrolled the right

1119
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: tackle position for the Cincinnati Bengals for many, many years

1120
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: and did it at one of the highest levels in

1121
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: the history of football. That, of course is Willie Anderson.

1122
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: A lot of people think he deserves to get in,

1123
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: but he's up against a class that is pretty stout.

1124
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 2: You got Drew Brees, You've got running back Frank Gore,

1125
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 2: you got wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald. I think those three

1126
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: are almost guaranteed to get in. Luke Kinkley I think

1127
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: is going to get in. Adam VINITERI I think is

1128
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: going to get in. And then you begin to wonder, well,

1129
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: can Willie get eighty percent of the vote, And there's

1130
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: a prejudice in among the voters for what reason. I

1131
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: don't know about right tackle or any offensive line position

1132
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: except left tackle. Metrically, I guess they say you can't measure,

1133
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: particularly players that played when Anderson did. You can't measure

1134
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: metrically what they did in VS. And B with the

1135
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: rest of the offensive line. It was a different era.

1136
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: And then you've got the whole other thing, which is

1137
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: a complete mess where the senior, the coach, and the

1138
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: contributor finalists are all lobbed into one. And so you

1139
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: have Ken Anderson for all ins and purposes, up against

1140
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick, who it leaked this week

1141
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: that Belichick did not get in. And that's what I

1142
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: want to address with my next guest. I have Clark

1143
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: Judge on all the time. He votes. He's one of

1144
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: the fifty that vote for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1145
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: He's worked at a number of different publications, not the

1146
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: least of which was cbssports dot Com. He has his

1147
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: own website now, Talk of Fame two, which is in

1148
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: conjunction with another guy that votes, Ira Kaufman down in Tampa,

1149
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: who I've had on this show quite a bit. But

1150
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to get Clark on this morning. I think

1151
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: the last time we talked, it was early in the

1152
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: Bengals season. I got into my notes here. I'm gonna

1153
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: have to look it up, but anyway, the fact of

1154
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: the matter is I wanted to get him on in

1155
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: light of this news that broke about Belichick and then

1156
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: whether or not we're going to have an Anderson standing

1157
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: up there with a gold jacket in August and getting

1158
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So he's

1159
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: my buddy, Clark judge. How are you on this glorious Sunday.

1160
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: I'm depressed because they're talk about the Bengals.

1161
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: The last time we talked, I think it was in September,

1162
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: they were two and oh and you were tickled to death.

1163
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: You were going to watch the game. They had just

1164
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: gone two and oh and all of a sudden, Burrow

1165
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: gets hurt and the bottom falls out. And we were

1166
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: all excited that game because we knew that it was

1167
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: going to be the backup. It was going to be

1168
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: Jake Browning. He said, I'm excited to see what Jake

1169
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: Brownie can do. We saw what Jake Brownie can do,

1170
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody's excited now.

1171
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 18: Yeah, I remember that conversation because I said, you get me,

1172
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 18: can they can they survive? Can they be a winning team?

1173
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 18: And say, yeah, they can because they could happen last year.

1174
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 18: And then, you know, I didn't realize Burrow would come

1175
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 18: back as soon as.

1176
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: He did, but by that time it was over.

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Speaker 18: I mean, they were one and eight without him, right,

1178
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 18: and I love watching them when he's on the field.

1179
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: But boy, you know that's that's not the problem.

1180
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 18: I mean, you want to keep Joe Burrow on the field, certainly,

1181
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 18: but man, you would love to see the defensive and

1182
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 18: stop somebody.

1183
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: You're one of the ones that vote for the Pro

1184
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame, and I would never be disrespectful

1185
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: to ask you how you voted that that would never

1186
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: come from me. But how disappointed are you that this

1187
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: news of Bill Belichick's surface this week because somebody was

1188
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: a mold, somebody spoke and I guess did not did

1189
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: not here adhere to the code that the news comes

1190
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: out when the news is supposed to come out. How

1191
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: disappointed are you about that?

1192
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, I I'm disappointed by that.

1193
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: I don't think it came from within. I'll be honest

1194
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,479
Speaker 3: with you. I think it probably came that is my guest,

1195
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: just a guest. I think it probably came from the

1196
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: Belichick camp, but I don't know that. I don't know that.

1197
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 18: But and i'd say in terms of just the result,

1198
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 18: I'm not as disappointed as I am surprised. You know,

1199
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 18: you're not disappointed because we had an election and guys voted,

1200
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 18: and that's those are the results.

1201
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: I'm surprised. But am I disappointed by the results. I

1202
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: don't know that.

1203
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 18: I'm disappointed we voted. I'm surprised at your problem, shocked

1204
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 18: by it. But that's the way it goes. And he'll

1205
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 18: have another chance and he will get in. And what

1206
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 18: people don't understand, and I'm not going to go into

1207
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 18: it here, Kim, because it takes far too long, is

1208
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 18: the process really makes it difficult for someone to make

1209
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 18: a decision in this group. And I'm talking about the

1210
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 18: five three seniors, and you know who they are because

1211
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 18: Kenny Anderson is one of them, and then a contributor

1212
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 18: and a coach contributors to Robert Kraft, and the coach

1213
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 18: is Bill Belichick. Well, apparently, from what I learned, some

1214
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 18: people voted for Craft and not Belichick. Some people voted

1215
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 18: for all three seniors and not Belichick, because you can

1216
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 18: only vote for three, and then once they get their

1217
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 18: top three, they have to have eighty percent of the votes.

1218
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 18: They have to clear two hurdles. And it's so difficult.

1219
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 18: The last year when we had those five, how many

1220
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 18: survived one? Sterling Sharp he's the only one. Michael didn't

1221
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 18: make it. The founder of the NFL didn't make it.

1222
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 18: It's just so it's very difficult. And I know what

1223
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 18: people are saying. Listen, you know what about this guy

1224
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 18: because his wins and Super Bowls? Understand that, But what

1225
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 18: about Ken Anderson. He's waited into since, you know, god forever,

1226
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 18: He's I don't know, seventy seven, seventy eight, Elsie Greenwood,

1227
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 18: he's passed on, Roger Craig. I think they've combined way

1228
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 18: for them. It's like over sixty years, sixty to seventy

1229
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 18: years waiting to get in the hall. Belichick first year.

1230
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 3: Okay, so he didn't make his first ballot. Guy, but

1231
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 3: they said, I was surprised. I've seen leaks before.

1232
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 18: The more concern to me was there was a leak

1233
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 18: that Eli Manning didn't make it, and and that I

1234
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 18: do think came from within I do, and that bothers

1235
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 18: me and this one, the Belichick thing.

1236
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: I know that the people who did the story, they're very.

1237
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 18: Accomplished, they're they're reputable. I think it's probably trustworthy. I

1238
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 18: don't know that it's happened, but if in fact it's happened, yeah,

1239
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 18: I'm shocked.

1240
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: But that's the.

1241
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 18: Process we've got right now. I was shocked last year

1242
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 18: when Mike Holmgren didn't make it. You know so, But

1243
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 18: with Belichick there is that mitigating factor. And I know

1244
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 18: people say, you know so what, But there's that mitigating

1245
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 18: factor of spy gay. I'm not saying that that was

1246
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 18: the mitigating factor. It was simply mentioned in the course

1247
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 18: of the conversation.

1248
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: That's all.

1249
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 18: And there are people who are asked to vote their

1250
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 18: conscience and they did in just terms of listen, you

1251
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 18: both the way you want to. You're not obligated to

1252
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 18: reveal who you voted for or how you voted. Some

1253
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 18: have some have it, and so that's kind of the

1254
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 18: way it goes. But you'd have to understand how difficult

1255
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 18: the process is. Because before we started last year, I

1256
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 18: had somebody who was helping me on the site that

1257
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 18: we had talk of pain too, who said, listen, you're

1258
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 18: going to get no more than.

1259
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: Four people in this class. I said, you're crazy.

1260
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 18: He goes, no, the mass doesn't work the way they've

1261
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 18: changed this process.

1262
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 17: He was right, He was right.

1263
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: And I talked to him again this year and said.

1264
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 18: You're going to get a max of five maybe four,

1265
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 18: because you can't keep doing this.

1266
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: They're cannibalizing each other.

1267
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 18: So I'll vote for Ken Anderson and Elsie Greenwood and

1268
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 18: then okay Craft mean maybe, oh no, I'll vote for

1269
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 18: Belichick and I'm not going to vote for Craft.

1270
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll vote for Craig and Elsie.

1271
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 18: So you get see how it works with fifty people

1272
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 18: sup to gate eighty percent of the vote.

1273
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: It's really tough.

1274
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: The process is relatively new. It's got a change.

1275
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: This is the second year years.

1276
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: It's got to change. It makes no sense. You're right.

1277
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 2: They they kind of like eat each other up and

1278
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: spit out what's left. And there ought to be a coach.

1279
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: There ought to be a coach. There ought to be

1280
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: a contributor. There ought to be a veteran player. What's

1281
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: wrong with voting inside for just those three things? It

1282
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: makes absolutely no sense to put a guy like Craft

1283
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: up against a player like Ken Anderson or Roger Craig.

1284
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: They are apples and oranges to begin with, aren't they?

1285
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: Well yet to know? I mean we did.

1286
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 18: We had that system until twenty fourteen when they said

1287
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 18: let's do a contributor category and we voted on them.

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Speaker 18: In twenty fifteen. It was pulling and Ron Wolf for

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Speaker 18: the first Hall of Famers under that category. And then

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Speaker 18: they created the coach category and that was I think

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Speaker 18: following the Centennial class, but that was twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 18: so we created that. Until those times, however, again we

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Speaker 18: had everyone in one group, players, coaches, contributors, everyone, and

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Speaker 18: we still got coaches out and we got, you know,

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Speaker 18: an occasional contributor.

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Speaker 3: Mostly players came out, and I thought.

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Speaker 18: That worked okay, because if you look at the categories now,

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Speaker 18: there are far far more seniors. There were over sixty

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Speaker 18: all decade players waiting to be discussed. We know three

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Speaker 18: of them we are up this year. But you know,

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Speaker 18: I'm a big fan and you would remember them. I'm

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Speaker 18: sure Jimmy Patton del Shoffner's great players.

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Speaker 2: Ye absolutely.

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Speaker 18: Jimmy Patten's a five time first Team All Pro Number twenty.

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Speaker 2: For the Giants. Number twenty for the Giants, Jimmy Patton,

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Speaker 2: I remember him.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, Number twenty and shop came from the Rams, and

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Speaker 18: and and I did a poll of historians.

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Speaker 3: They were the guys that they said they would put

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Speaker 3: in first from.

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Speaker 18: The nineteen fifties to ninety seventy nine era, and they

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Speaker 18: don't even get a sniff. And then I've gotten to

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Speaker 18: the point with recency bias now that I think if

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Speaker 18: you if you don't play after nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: You probably don't have a chance.

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Speaker 18: And it's so sad because you know before, I've told

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Speaker 18: you before, there's a guy named Al Wister to play

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Speaker 18: with the Eagles, play nine years, eight time first team

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Speaker 18: All Pro, all decades, two time champion, captain of his

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Speaker 18: team of the Eagles. He doesn't even get a sniff

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Speaker 18: he if he were today, and with that resume coming

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Speaker 18: out today, the first out.

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Speaker 3: Of Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 18: But that's we've kind of moved on from that, and

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Speaker 18: I feel really bad for those guys who played that.

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Speaker 18: I remember late fifties, sixties, seventies, Ken Anderson, eighties, you know,

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Speaker 18: Elsie Greenwood, I remember him well. And I look at

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Speaker 18: this ballot, this year, and I'm gonna be frank with you.

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01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 18: I think Kenny's gonna have a tough time because some

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 18: people may not know who he was. And that's okay,

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 18: But my point is you should care about who he was.

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01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 18: You may not know, but care look into it and

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Speaker 18: listen to the conversation. Listen to what you've been told.

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Speaker 18: Elsie Greenwood. I would hope you would know, but you

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 18: might not. Okay, listen to the conversation. Look what the

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Speaker 18: Steelers did in the seventies. Look at that seventy sixty

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Speaker 18: with a team that didn't even make it to the

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Speaker 18: super Bowl or to the yeah, the super Bowl, and

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01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 18: look at their last nine games they give up twenty

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01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 18: eight points and nine games twenty eight points.

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Speaker 3: Well nine.

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Speaker 2: The reality, though it is, is this. You know Anderson

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01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: was late mid mid seventies to almost meet eighties here

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01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: right about up until eighty six here. If if you're

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01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: not fifty, you would have to be at least fifty

1346
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: to have at least seen him in his latter stages

1347
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,440
Speaker 2: of his prime. And with regards to el C. Greenwood,

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: you would have to be right now, because we're going

1349
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: back fifty years, you would have to be six or

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01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: older to have seen him in his probably, And the

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: problem is most of the guys that are voting now

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01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: aren't that old, and so it becomes a statistical hunt

1353
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: as opposed to an eyeball test or actually having seen

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: the guy play. It's just it's it's it's unfortunate the

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01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: way it is. But I just I just don't know

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: what the answer is, other than I think you got

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: to change the format and at least get back to

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01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: a point where you give these veteran players a fighting

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01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: chance to get in, or you're going to have Roger

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: Craigs and Kenny Anderson's and Elsie Greenwoods every single year.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, that's right.

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Speaker 18: And the problems here, Ken is, like I said, there's

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Speaker 18: so many of those seniors. How many really qualified you

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01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 18: want to say Hall of Fame caliber coaches are there waiting,

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Speaker 18: and I'd say a handful of most at most. And

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Speaker 18: then how many contributors. Well, we knocked down the league

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01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 18: founder last year. Yeah, I presented him and I was

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01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 18: dug by shock. But when I heard that that eighty

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Speaker 18: percent rules and went, I don't think he's got a chance,

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Speaker 18: and he didn't. So now apparently we think I've knocked

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Speaker 18: down Belichick. Okay, maybe if they knock down Craft, tell

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 18: me who's left as a contributor that you want to

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01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 18: put in. And I know who the names were that were,

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 18: you know, finalists this year. There's nobody there that stands

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01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 18: a chance against a player or a coach. Keep in mind,

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01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 18: when we put the coaches and contributors together for two years,

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 18: they had a coach flash contributor category, and those two

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01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 18: years the coaches were pulled out. Okay, that means contributors

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 18: to have a chance against the coaches. Well, then the

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01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 18: coaches really historically haven't had much of a chance against

1382
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 18: the players. And so what we've got now is we've

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 18: put them all on the same level. When you said,

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01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 18: wait a second, we've got like over sixty players who

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 18: deserve to be in there. Ken Anderson's won, Elsie Green

1386
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 18: and Roger Craig go down the list, and we keep

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 18: turning away. The problem with that is when those guys

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01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 18: are turned away, If and when one of those three,

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 18: two of those three, all three are turned away.

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Speaker 3: They probably are not coming back again. Craft and Belichick.

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Speaker 18: I'll guarantee if they don't make it, Craft and Belichick.

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Speaker 3: And they will get in.

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01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred Clark Judge talk

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01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: of fame too. You can find him there with my

1395
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: buddy Ira Kaufman to him do a hell of a job.

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01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: And anyway did he did he drop off? Okay, well anyway,

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 2: I'll thank him later. But here, here's the deal. You

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Speaker 2: got to get eighty percent of the vote. You got

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01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 2: to get eighty percent of the vote to get in. Now,

1400
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 2: who's on the ballot this year. Well, we've already gone

1401
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: through some of the names, and you just heard him

1402
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,879
Speaker 2: say maybe five get in because of that eighty percent threshold,

1403
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: five of the modern era players. So is will he

1404
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: get in as one of those five breezes? I think

1405
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 2: a slam dunk. Larry Fitzgerald is a slam dunk. Now

1406
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: you're up against players. I think Luke Kinckley is an

1407
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: absolute slam dunk. So there's three. So now you're up

1408
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 2: against Adam Minterry Terrell, Suggs, Frank Gore. I think it's

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01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: going to be very difficult, unfortunately, and that as for

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Speaker 2: Ken Anderson, they have to change, They've got to go

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: back to the original process. But the problem is it

1412
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: was the idea of the Board of directors at the

1413
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. They changed it last year.

1414
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: It's awfully difficult to admit that you have an ugly baby,

1415
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: but that's their baby, and it's ugly. And the other

1416
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: thing that Willie Anderson has going against him, and I

1417
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 2: think this is totally unfair. He was a right tackle.

1418
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 2: These voters do not value that position. Look at history.

1419
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: The last right tackle that got into the Pro Football

1420
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame was Jackie Slater, and if I'm not mistaken,

1421
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: that was in two thousand and one. And there's a

1422
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: very small group of players that primarily played right tackle

1423
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: that are in. Forrest greg Is in Rayfield Wright is in.

1424
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: The last was Slater. You're going back a quarter of

1425
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: a century. We'll find out Thursday night, both on Ken

1426
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Speaker 2: Anderson and Willie Anderson. I would not hold my breath.

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Speaker 2: It is eleven twenty six. On this Sunday News Radio

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Speaker 2: they have great breakfast tacos. They've got a great breakfast pizza.

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Speaker 2: Feed the Hippies is what it's called Hell's Bock seven

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Speaker 2: point eight percent ABV. It's in the series of laggers

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Speaker 2: Joe and Dan. Maybe back in the day they were

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Speaker 2: holding up signs protesting, who knows, Maybe they live in

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Speaker 2: the commune. I don't know. They love hippies at Little

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Speaker 2: Miami Brewing. In any event, it's a strong multi flavor

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Speaker 2: It's nineteen sixty all over again. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: it is because every Tuesday, it's two dollars off my

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Speaker 2: pick beer of the week, Don't feed the hippies. Where

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Speaker 2: at Little Miami Brewing in the heart of downtown is

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Speaker 2: Storic Milford eleven thirty eight on this Sunday, Good Morning,

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Speaker 2: Sunday Morning Sports Talk after the News. At twelve oh six,

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Speaker 2: Sterling is in. He'll solve all of the world's problems

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Speaker 2: in three hours and probably create a half dozen more.

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Speaker 2: Tune in your Sterling is in at fourbo six. I'll

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Speaker 2: go through some of my emails this morning, and Joe,

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Speaker 2: one of my emails me followers ask the question, have

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Speaker 2: you discussed the NFL Kindness Officer. The NFL hired someone

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Speaker 2: with the title Kindness Chief Kindness Officer for the upcoming

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Super Bowl l X, and this kindness officer

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Speaker 2: is manned by the name of dar Man, who apparently

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Speaker 2: is a major influencer on YouTube. I'll have to be

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Speaker 2: out of it and say I don't know of dar Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he is and darispelled Dharr, last name m An.

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Speaker 2: I don't know of this person, but I'm sure he's

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Speaker 2: very successful. He's got a lot of followers, a lot

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Speaker 2: of subscribers on YouTube. If that means probably means big

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Speaker 2: money to him. Last I heard he was making somewhere

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Speaker 2: in the ten figure department. But this is a guy

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Speaker 2: in twenty twelve that was charged with thirteen felonies for

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Speaker 2: defrauding the city of Oakland, California through his medical marijuana business.

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Speaker 2: He pled no contest to five of those charges and

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Speaker 2: got probation. Then he he's got dar Man Studios, which

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Speaker 2: again has over twenty five million subscribers. Content has mainly

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Speaker 2: scripted short movies around around a half an hour in length,

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Speaker 2: but apparently there are some work there that weren't all

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Speaker 2: that pleased with him. In twenty twenty three, as workers

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Speaker 2: who helped make these videos protested what they claim to

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Speaker 2: be poor working conditions from the NFL's Chief Kindness Officer,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they need these kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: It's the NFL, so who knows why they think about

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Speaker 2: these things. But remember in the good old days when

1487
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Speaker 2: they just played the damn game. And I know that

1488
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: might sound old man shaking his fist at the clouds,

1489
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: But what is a chief kindness officer going to do?

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Speaker 2: Like tell everybody to shake hands after every play? Tell

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Speaker 2: the officials don't throw a penalty. You walk up to

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Speaker 2: the player what created a fall and say, please don't

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Speaker 2: do that again. I mean, come on, what are we

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Speaker 2: doing here? What are we doing? Play the damn game?

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Speaker 2: Put on a halftime show that everybody wants, which again

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Speaker 2: this year not everybody wants. Nevertheless, guys talented, it's going

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Speaker 2: to draw a lot of eyeball and just make it

1498
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 2: that kind of event. But NFL has always got to

1499
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: be the smartest guy in the room. And someday they'll realize,

1500
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 2: probably monetarily, that some of this is going to start

1501
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 2: costing the money. And that's the one thing every single

1502
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: one of the thirty two NFL owners want, and that's

1503
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: your money. Now, can you make more money? Well, yes

1504
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 2: you can. You can bet on this game. The Seahawks

1505
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 2: are They're a workable favorite. I always stay away in

1506
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: games like this. I stay away from game lines and

1507
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: things like that. You got to dig in, you got

1508
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 2: to get prop bets. What kind of game are these

1509
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: individual players going to have, like JSN, like Jackson Smith

1510
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: and Jigbo, what kind of game is he going to have? Well,

1511
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: for that matter, Romandemandre Stevenson, what kind of game is

1512
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 2: he going to have a lot of interesting prop bets

1513
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 2: out there. I've got a few in front of me,

1514
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: but I want to run them by the betting guru

1515
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: at profootballfocus dot com. We've had Mason Cameron on the

1516
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 2: show over the course of this season, and I wanted

1517
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 2: him back because he can make you some money. Maybe

1518
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: put a smile on your face. Come Sunday night next week,

1519
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: Mason Cameron, how are you this glorious Sunday before the

1520
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 2: Super Bowl?

1521
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 17: Dan?

1522
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good.

1523
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 19: I'm excited for the game here. We've got a lot

1524
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 19: going on. It's gonna be a good time.

1525
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great time. Now, listen, I've got

1526
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: some prop bets here. You can tell me how far

1527
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 2: off I am on these. And if I'm far off,

1528
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 2: don't feel like you gotta hold back.

1529
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, come good.

1530
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jibbo one hundred plus yards at minus

1531
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 2: one ten. I'm thinking maybe that's a bet. Ten times

1532
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 2: in this past season, Old Jackson Smith j ASN has

1533
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 2: gone over one hundred yards. I'm thinking this could be

1534
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: a big game for him. Walk me back on this one.

1535
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 19: So it's tough because I one hundred percent agree that

1536
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 19: when we look at some of his game scripts and

1537
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 19: how he's done in games, he's phenomenal.

1538
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 3: He's one of the best receivers in the league.

1539
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 19: If it wasn't for Pukin Nakua over there in that division, like,

1540
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 19: it would be undoubted that he is the best receiver

1541
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 19: in the league.

1542
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: When it comes to markets, it's really difficult.

1543
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 19: To put a number like minus one ten on a

1544
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 19: line that's reaching upwards of one hundred yards. So it's

1545
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 19: one of those situations where, while he's extremely capable of

1546
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 19: a player, it's difficult to sort of recommend that as

1547
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 19: a bet in this market where so many different things

1548
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 19: can go wrong. A lot of things have to go

1549
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 19: right for him to reach a large number like that,

1550
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 19: So I would lean.

1551
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 3: Towards maybe not touching something like that.

1552
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 19: And if you are leaning towards that capability of him

1553
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,879
Speaker 19: really erupting in this game, there's other ways to sort.

1554
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 17: Of attack that.

1555
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 19: I would potentially go with a receptions line where you're

1556
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 19: getting a little bit more value that's going to come

1557
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 19: out a little bit lower over in about.

1558
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 17: The six and a half range.

1559
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 19: That's another spot where we've seen him really excel getting

1560
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 19: a lot of volume. He's one of the highest target

1561
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 19: rate receivers in the.

1562
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 3: NFL, so I like something like that.

1563
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 19: I also really like the potential of him maybe even

1564
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 19: being named you know, super Bowl MVP out here with

1565
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 19: plus by fifty. I mean, we know that he's capable

1566
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 19: of putting up a really big stat line, and if

1567
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 19: he does hit that mark at plus by fifty, his

1568
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:37,480
Speaker 19: opportunity to gain that award actually.

1569
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 3: Increases, which we've seen.

1570
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 19: It sort of takes one of those big plays we've

1571
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 19: seen for you know, a non quarterback to get the award.

1572
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 3: But I think he's definitely capable.

1573
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 17: Of doing that.

1574
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you're saying no to that, you'll probably

1575
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: say no to this. But I got Sam Darnold two

1576
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty plus yards passing at plus one fifty two.

1577
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good ROI return on investment. He's done

1578
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: that seven times this year, gone over two fifty. So

1579
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 2: if you're walking me back on JSN, you're walking me

1580
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 2: back on Darnold too, right, I mean slightly.

1581
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 3: But again, it's sort of a similar thing. It's not

1582
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 3: down to the capability of the player.

1583
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 19: It really comes down to sort of what we see

1584
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 19: in the game script between these two teams. Frankly, with

1585
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 19: this game, I'm a little bit more hesitant to play

1586
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 19: acting overs for Seattle for a couple of reasons, one

1587
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 19: of them being is that I think that they're going

1588
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 19: to actually be holding a fairly significant.

1589
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: Lead for most of this game. I know the line

1590
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 3: set at about.

1591
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 17: Four and a half.

1592
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 19: I think we see a bit more of a spread

1593
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 19: between these two teams and level of competition they've faced

1594
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 19: and how they've performed against that level of competition. I

1595
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 19: think that we're going to see a situation where, you know,

1596
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 19: the Seattle Seahawks, they're a run heavy team.

1597
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to be pushed to throwing

1598
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 3: the ball quite as often. And I think with that

1599
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 3: pitch is going.

1600
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 19: To entail is that really they're just going to be

1601
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 19: up ahead and they're not going to need to throw

1602
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 19: quite as much.

1603
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 3: Now that's also a game script sort of play.

1604
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 19: From another standpoint, we talk about a player like Robert

1605
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 19: Spillane on the Patriots defense. Now, their rushing splits really

1606
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 19: differ a lot when he's on the field, then when

1607
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 19: he's off the field.

1608
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 3: Now, that's going to be one of the key injuries.

1609
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 17: To watch as we get closer to this game.

1610
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: If he's going to be able.

1611
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 19: To play, this Patriots defense is going to be in

1612
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 19: a better spot and that's going to funnel play into

1613
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 19: the passing game. But if he doesn't play, I think

1614
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 19: Seattle's going to be more than content running the football.

1615
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So if indeed we go with that line that

1616
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: Seattle's going to have the lead for most of this game.

1617
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: Here's another one. Again, it's an offensive number, but you

1618
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm crazy. Drake May over two twenty

1619
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 2: five and a half passing yards this is at minus

1620
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: one ten. Now, look, Seattle is not, you know, I mean,

1621
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 2: their defense is terrific. May has not been great in

1622
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but he had bad weather last week at Denver.

1623
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 2: He had a snowy day at Foxborough a couple of

1624
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: weeks ago against the Chargers in the first round. Two

1625
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight yards over to twenty five and

1626
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: a half fourteen times and he hit to twenty two

1627
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: exactly one. So we're talking fifteen times that this guy

1628
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 2: has done that. So if indeed Seattle is going to

1629
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 2: have the ball or have the lead for most of

1630
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: this game, which means it may probably is throwing a

1631
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: little bit more than what he normally would over to

1632
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 2: twenty five and a half at minus one ten, I'm

1633
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 2: drooling over that one.

1634
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 5: Am I wrong?

1635
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 3: No, we like that as well.

1636
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 19: Our model shows a bit more of an edge on that.

1637
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 19: I would even bump that a little bit up that

1638
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 19: I talked about.

1639
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 3: I think they're going to.

1640
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 19: Have to funnel, you know, attempts through the packing game.

1641
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 19: I like his even at tenth over at thirty and

1642
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 19: a half, I think that they're going to have to

1643
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 19: throw the ball. And then when you talk about Drake

1644
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 19: May as a player in this offense and what we

1645
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 19: see in New England, they really do like to push

1646
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 19: the ball down the field. Now, Seattle makes that difficult

1647
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 19: on teams, but one of the things that they have

1648
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 19: to their advantage is that Seattle funnels passes to tight

1649
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 19: ends two running backs. So I think you're going to

1650
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 19: see a good volume from Hunter Henry. Now, one of

1651
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 19: the ways that I'd like to build a potential SGTP

1652
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 19: around this game is actually tying Drake May to Hunter Henry,

1653
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 19: and Hunter Henry's lines are at about three and a

1654
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 19: half receptions three eight and a half receiving yards I

1655
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 19: like some of those metrics tied together. So we're going

1656
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 19: to see a correlation in that when we talk about

1657
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 19: Seattle their bottom five and tight end receiving yard or

1658
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 19: receptions and yardage. So I think that we're going to

1659
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 19: see that situation. And another angle to potentially look at

1660
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 19: is the running backs and the receiving game as well.

1661
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 19: We've seen Ramandre Stevenson. He's been highly involved.

1662
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 3: Down this playoff run.

1663
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 19: I'm not really quite sure why they've moved away Traveon

1664
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 19: Henderson such an explosive player.

1665
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 3: This might be a.

1666
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 19: Situation where we see that regrets back to the means

1667
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 19: and they get or they get Henderson a little bit

1668
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 19: more involved. And I really like his numbers in a

1669
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 19: lot of this game. You can get over one and

1670
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 19: a half receptions at like plus three fifty. That's a

1671
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 19: really big number for number that's not that hard for

1672
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 19: a guy of his talent to hit. It's really just

1673
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 19: going to be how much he's involved in the game plan.

1674
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 3: And I could see them sort of throwing that curve

1675
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 3: ball in there. But yet, long story short, I do

1676
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 3: like the potential of some Drake may yardage there.

1677
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 2: And you were just talking about Henderson, right, not Stevenson.

1678
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,839
Speaker 19: I like both of them, but the prices on Henderson,

1679
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 19: considering he's been less involved over this playoff run, are

1680
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 19: very juicy.

1681
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean he he's had no touchdowns in

1682
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: the last three and only two and that's five prior

1683
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 2: to that, and Stevenson has been the go to guy.

1684
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 2: You can get Stevenson, I think right now to score

1685
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: a touchdown at any time at plus one sixty and

1686
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 2: he hasn't had any in the last three games, but

1687
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 2: he had four in the previous three. I mean, you're right.

1688
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,480
Speaker 2: I think if you look at situations for Stevenson and Henderson,

1689
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: you're going to find good value in there, either in

1690
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: attempts or yards or touchdowns and whatnot. That could be

1691
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: a focal point over everything else we just talked about.

1692
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely, because I mean when we talk about now

1693
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 19: Seattle is a very good team against the run, that's

1694
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 19: going to be a big situation in this game where

1695
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,440
Speaker 19: it is going to funnel.

1696
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 3: To the passing game.

1697
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 19: But we've Seenmandre Stevenson, I mean, he's been catching some

1698
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 19: wheel routes for they'd like to target him down the

1699
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 19: field in the passing game, which is something you wouldn't

1700
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 19: necessarily expect. But also we know about Trayvon Henderson explosive

1701
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 19: with the ball in his hands. I wouldn't be surprised

1702
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 19: to see them try to get him involved with a

1703
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 19: couple of design screens, let him get out into some space.

1704
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 3: I definitely that being a situation.

1705
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 10: Now.

1706
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 3: The big thing, like I said, is the volume and

1707
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 3: how much of.

1708
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 19: The snapshare we're seeing from each of them. So far,

1709
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 19: it has been a lot of Stevens in but the

1710
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 19: prices also indicate that I think that you're going to

1711
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 19: see a lot of value in sim Henderson.

1712
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 2: Okay, we're chatting with Mason Cameron Pro footballfocus dot Com.

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Speaker 2: This is the guy you want to listen to if

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Speaker 2: you want to make some denaro on Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 2: If we have not talked about it yet, what is

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Speaker 2: your favorite prop that you see out there right now.

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Speaker 19: I'm really loving what we're going to see from Hunter

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01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 19: Henry and I alluded to it earlier, but I think

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01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 19: three and a half receptions thirty eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: Receiving yards is a really good number for them.

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Speaker 19: Particularly we talk about what Seattle likes to run as

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Speaker 19: a defense, We talk about that they funnel targets to

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Speaker 19: tight ends. They have one of the highest tight end

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Speaker 19: target rates in the NFL. And when we look at

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Speaker 19: Patriots path Catcher's verse zone coverages, which Seattle runs a lot,

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Speaker 19: Hunter Henry's highest grated among them, So I like him

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Speaker 19: to get really involved.

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Speaker 3: At thirty eight and a half receiving yards, it tends to.

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Speaker 19: Be sort of on the middle to upper tier of

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Speaker 19: those production lines that we see from tight ends, but

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01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 19: we've seen them give up them being Seattle. We've seen

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Speaker 19: Seattle give up fifty plus to tight end over the

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Speaker 19: last two games, So I like the potential there for

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Speaker 19: Hunter Henry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, we covered a lot of ground. I would

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Speaker 2: imagine you're writing quite a bit between now and Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl Sunday, Mason Cameron, Pro Footballfocus dot Com. Yet another

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Speaker 2: reason why you should subscribe to that website. All right, Mason,

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Speaker 2: stay well and you know we'll be in touch, so

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Speaker 2: please answer the phone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely, thanks again.

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Speaker 2: Creat Yeah, and now that I'm looking at these props,

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Speaker 2: I raised I ain't feeling good about jaysn but that

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Speaker 2: Drake mayline over two twenty five and a half passing

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Speaker 2: yards minus one ten. We'll see how tasty. That is

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Speaker 2: come game time. It is eleven fifty three on this Sunday,

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Speaker 2: and this is Sunday Morning Sports Talk, and we are

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Speaker 1: This cold weather is so intense my thoughts froze mid sentence.

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Speaker 15: What was I saying?

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Speaker 2: Staying forward?

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Speaker 2: Perhaps you are watching maybe and I think it ended

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Speaker 2: before we hit the air today at nine. But Carlos

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Speaker 2: Alcarez has won the Australian Open. And if you go

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Speaker 2: to up to Mason to watch the tennis tournament every

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Speaker 2: single August here, you know exactly who Carlos Alcarez is.

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Speaker 9: He.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I saw him a couple of matches last year,

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Speaker 2: the youngest man now ever to complete a career Grand

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Speaker 2: Slam winning the Australian Open over Novak Djokovic. And this

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Speaker 2: was a stunning turn of events here. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: twenty two. He'll be twenty three here in about four

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Speaker 2: or five months. And congratulations to Carlos Alcarez for winning

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Speaker 2: the Australian Open and becoming the youngest ever to complete

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Speaker 2: a career glance crand Slam. Now something. On a completely

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Speaker 2: different note, I didn't see this, but I'm going back

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Speaker 2: to look for the video. Just when you think you've

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Speaker 2: seen it all. Heavyweight contender Jerald Big Baby Miller in

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Speaker 2: the ring last night in Madison Square Garden against Kingsley

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Speaker 2: Ibath Big Baby in the ring wearing a two pay.

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Speaker 2: Big Baby Miller had promised a knockout during yesterday's undercard bout,

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Speaker 2: but he had a different kind of knockout. I bets

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Speaker 2: right uppercut knock the two pay off of Big Baby

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Speaker 2: Miller number what? Why would you wear a two pay

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Speaker 2: when you're in the ring boxing? Who thought that was

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01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: a good idea? Importunity? Get the rug back? Yes, somebody

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Speaker 2: sitting ringside flipped it back into the stands, and so

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Speaker 2: he's got his two payback. If you learn nothing else

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Speaker 2: about me and this show, never wear a two pay

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Speaker 2: to a heavyweight title fight. Sterling's next, as we stand

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Speaker 2: up and salute the greatest country God has ever placed

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Speaker 2: on this planet. We're here at seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: The Nation Station seven hundred W L and pillow windows

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Speaker 1: and America News, Traffic and weather News rad seven hundred

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Speaker 5: How long is this going to go on?

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Speaker 15: This?

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Speaker 20: This is the Noon Reports. I'm Sandy Collins breaking now.

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Speaker 20: The consensus is not long. The partial federal government shut down.

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Speaker 20: The House is meeting on Monday, to try to pass

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Speaker 20: funding legislation quickly to end it. But the Minority Leader,

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Speaker 20: Hakim Jeffries of New York tells ABC's This Week that

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Speaker 20: a key issue is changing the way the Department of

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01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 20: Homeland Security conducts its raids and US cities.

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01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 19: Apartment of Homeland Security needs to be dramatically reformed.

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Speaker 21: We share that view, as does Leader Schumer and Senate

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01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 21: Democrats in a variety of different ways.

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Speaker 20: Now, Jeffrey says that the Democratic Caucus today is talking

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Speaker 20: about whether to approve that temporary two week measure to

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01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 20: fund Homeland Security while lawmakers negotiate reforms. We'll find out

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Speaker 20: on Monday what happens, and we'll have it for you

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Speaker 20: here now, the latest traffic and weather together. Travel times

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Speaker 20: normal right now for coming up from seventy one to

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Speaker 20: seventy five in northern Kentucky from the Erlanger area to downtown,

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Speaker 20: a very quick six minute trip.

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Speaker 22: A little bit warmer out there this afternoon as temperatures

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Speaker 22: will reach the low twenties with a lot of sunshine. Tonight,

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Speaker 22: we're back down into the single digits, but not as windy.

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Speaker 22: Two hour delays will still be at least possible for

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Speaker 22: your Monday morning. Temperatures Tomorrow afternoon though, pop out in

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Speaker 22: the low thirties from Severe Weather Station. I'm nine first

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Speaker 22: Warning Meteorologist Cameron Harden on news radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 20: Sunny and sixteen Right now here in Cincinnati. Rumky's going

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01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 20: to be back on their normal trash and recycling schedule

1838
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 20: this week, getting caught up after the snowstorm delayed the

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01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 20: stops by just about a day. Police and Franklin had

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Speaker 20: a stolen car chase going on, and they got some

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01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 20: help from Montgomery County deputies for Harrison Township. It ended

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Speaker 20: with an officer involved cruiser crash near milemarker fifty four

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01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 20: that is just off of seventy five about five o'clock

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01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 20: this morning. That vehicle was carjacked at gunpoint and trotwood

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01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 20: later found unoccupied near need More and Webster Streets in Dayton.

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01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 20: The crash prompted the drone and canine searches for suspects.

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01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 20: The two cruisers involved. We don't believe anybody was hurt

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01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:30,919
Speaker 20: seriously and they have no suspects in custody. Medical device

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01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:33,719
Speaker 20: giant here in the Tri State is planning a major

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01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 20: expansion in Mason.

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01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 21: Patrick Cure has secured a six million dollar grant from

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Speaker 21: Ready Cincinnati, the largest incentive award of the year. The

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Speaker 21: company makes surgical treatments for heart conditions and plans to

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01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 21: expand its headquarters to accommodate hundreds of new jobs. Executives

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01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 21: say the expansion is key as they target one billion

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Speaker 21: dollars in revenue by twenty thirty. I'm Travis Lair News

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Speaker 21: Radio seven hundred Double L Double and your Bengals update.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard it yet?

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01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 20: Hometown heartthrob Nickolasche's new song imploring the Bengals owner to

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01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 20: sell the team, and.

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01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 14: It's it's sort of driving me safe.

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01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 9: So sad.

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01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 20: Stop playing clown in essence to give fans and the

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01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 20: team a chance to win someday. Nickolasche wants the Brown

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01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 20: family to sell. You know if you'd like to hear

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01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 20: his long list of grievances, It's all over social media

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01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 20: and YouTube. If Dick Clark was still here, I'm sure

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01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 20: he'd ask what score you'd give it? Does it have

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01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 20: a beat? Can you dance to it? Sounds like a

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Speaker 20: slow jam. I'm Sandy Collins. Next Update a twelve thirty

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Speaker 20: on news radio seven hundred WLW.

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