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Speaker 1: Love a good etiquette question. Wow, love it to see

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Speaker 1: how everybody feels about it and how they would react

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Speaker 1: to these sort of things.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 1: There is a couple who are in a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a disagreement and it all has to do with

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Speaker 1: a birthday.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it has to do so they're a married couple

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Speaker 3: and it has to do with the wife's mother's birthday. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so it's the wife's mother's birthday, the mother in law.

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Speaker 3: They're all over at her house as you do, for

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Speaker 3: a little birthday celebration, a couple of her close friends,

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Speaker 3: all the family that lives in town. Great, we have

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Speaker 3: a nice meal and then we all gather around to

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Speaker 3: sing Happy birthday and watch mom slash mother in law

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Speaker 3: blow out the canton.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, and so do it.

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Speaker 3: Yay, happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: Make a wish and half hearted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we sing my husband, me and my daughter sing

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Speaker 3: my husband have birthday on Monday. And it was so

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Speaker 3: awkward because she's like mumbling it like you said, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like leave it.

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Speaker 2: But it's just the two of us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and my husband's like standing there like please make

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Speaker 3: this stop, you know. But anyway, so they do that

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Speaker 3: whole thing, and then mother in law mom starts to

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Speaker 3: cut the cake. She cuts the cake herself and is

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Speaker 3: handing out little plates to everybody, and so the husband

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Speaker 3: is standing right there. A piece of cake is handed

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Speaker 3: to his wife. Great, she takes it, and then mother

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Speaker 3: in law goes to hand a piece of her birthday

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Speaker 3: cake to him, and he says, nah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm full.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not really feeling cake right now, but

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Speaker 3: thank you, and she goes, no, come on, you got it? No,

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Speaker 3: no really, I'm just really Do you want me to

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Speaker 3: cut you a really small piece?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, I just I just really don't want any cake. Okay,

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Speaker 3: On to the next person, give them cake. Well when

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Speaker 3: they're leaving. On the drive home, wife had feelings that

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Speaker 3: the husband did not accept a piece of cake from

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Speaker 3: the birthday girl slash his mother in law, and according

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Speaker 3: to the wife, she believes it is rude to say

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Speaker 3: no to a piece of birthday cake on someone's birthday.

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Speaker 3: She says, if it's a massive party and like the

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Speaker 3: cakes just laid out, to grab a piece, of course

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Speaker 3: you don't have to. But if it's a smaller group

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Speaker 3: and the birthday person offers you a piece, it is

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Speaker 3: rude to say no.

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Speaker 2: Thank What is rude about it? Am I insulting you?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't care about your birthday because I'm not celebrating.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't say, but honestly, I agree with her, and

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Speaker 3: you do. And my thought is, yeah, it's kind of rude,

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Speaker 3: Like this is the culmination of the reason we're here,

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Speaker 3: the singing of the birthday.

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Speaker 4: That's not why I'm there. I'm there for your birthday.

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Speaker 4: A diabetic well, obviously there'd be a reason. I have

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Speaker 4: seen Thor turned down cake, like when you were working

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Speaker 4: out and all that stuff, and that we've had like

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Speaker 4: birthday things or like in the office or whatever, and

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Speaker 4: Thor will flat out tell him no. And I do

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Speaker 4: see Sky coming out of her skin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't like cake. I like I like butt cake.

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Speaker 2: You're a big ice cream cake.

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Speaker 4: I like ice cream cake, but like regular like sheet cake,

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Speaker 4: I hate that.

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Speaker 3: But this cake isn't about you.

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Speaker 4: It's not about take it not eat it, which to

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Speaker 4: me is way worse. Taking it not eating it and

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Speaker 4: then throwing it away is way worse.

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Speaker 3: Because somebody else.

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Speaker 4: No, you could have leftovers if I go, oh, no,

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Speaker 4: thank you, I'm as nice as possible about it.

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Speaker 3: See this could be because I'm married to dessert hoarder,

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Speaker 3: because if it's an and I'm a picky eater, so

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Speaker 3: I don't like all cakes. Like there'll be some things

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Speaker 3: that I'm yeah and so, but I will feel like

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Speaker 3: I'm a jerk if I don't take crazy again, if

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Speaker 3: it's a massive party, if they don't see whatever about this?

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Speaker 4: What in the recovery world, when somebody gets like a

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Speaker 4: year or more, they get a cake, and a lot

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Speaker 4: of the times I hate this.

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Speaker 2: Do you eat it? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Oh, people will cut the cake and then pass it out.

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Speaker 2: At a meeting or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I go to like smaller meetings and stuff so

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Speaker 4: they'll see me. And I've never once in eighteen years

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Speaker 4: and ten months had a piece stop it cake it.

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Speaker 4: I've been like, no, no, but they're honoring the person.

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Speaker 4: Why do I have to eat it? They just they

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Speaker 4: just blew it out and spit one everywhere that care

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Speaker 4: that's not even here. No there second, I still want it.

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 4: I'm paying attention. I'm locked in.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not. I just don't. I just don't.

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Speaker 4: I just don't want a piece of cake. I don't

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Speaker 4: so I could go no thanks. That's rude because I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying no and then giving you a side. I

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Speaker 4: am going no, no, thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever turned down a piece of

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Speaker 1: birthday cake in my life.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, that's a good man. That's a thoughtful man.

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Speaker 1: That being said, those guy, what, I'm a new man now.

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Speaker 1: Oh health, I'm on a health journey. Oh god, I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you a last dessert that I've had. You

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Speaker 1: must go back to like Christmas time.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I could tell because you're not because you look great.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, babe, Okay, don't call him babe. Stop complimenting each other.

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Speaker 4: Jim the other. I'm going back to the gym now.

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Speaker 4: And I told my wife yesterday all thanks to Eddie.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Okay, can you guys, thanks to ed with your little

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Speaker 3: health club and we're guessing each other up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if it was your birthday today and there was

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Speaker 1: a cake in here, I would say no, thank you.

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Speaker 2: And I hope you would understand. Yeah, I would think

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Speaker 2: I'm not eating that crap anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy's at all You.

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Speaker 2: Want me to have a heart attack.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the thing like if your doctor said, hey,

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Speaker 3: no sugar, are you you're going to have a heart attack?

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Speaker 2: That's one thing.

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Speaker 3: Diabetic that's another thing.

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Speaker 2: If you're just on a.

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Speaker 3: Journey on your own, I'm sorry, friendship trumps your new

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Speaker 3: little little journey. And and and have at least a bite.

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you a question. You're at we're

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Speaker 4: at your birthdays, guy, and you love being toasted, Tell

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Speaker 4: you be toasted. And somebody does a toast everybody, and

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Speaker 4: they pour a glass champagne for everybody, and I go, oh, no,

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Speaker 4: thank you, And I don't do it because I don't

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Speaker 4: have a champagne? Am I?

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Speaker 2: Am? I?

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Speaker 4: Am I rude? Because I'm not drigging the champagne. Eddie

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to eat unhealthy, is he? What's the difference?

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Speaker 3: The difference is if there's.

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Speaker 4: A medical issue, my sobriety.

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Speaker 3: If there's a medical issue, like we call it covered diabetes,

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Speaker 3: heart attack, alcoholic, then you're excused from said thing. But

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Speaker 3: if none of those things.

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Speaker 1: Apply you, so what about I don't understand what that

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Speaker 1: problem is?

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Speaker 2: Why am I rude? If I don't want cakes? You

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Speaker 2: didn't even buy the cake? Yeah, you didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: You didn't buy it, something to.

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Speaker 3: Do with it. It's part of the honor. I'd rather

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Speaker 3: you have a piece of cake over getting me again.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the dumbest thing I've ever brought. My

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Speaker 4: jaws dropped. You have a piece of cake with a gift.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw a cake in your face.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not so uh?

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Speaker 3: This again? Isn't gonna shop shock anyone. Don't care for taramasou.

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Speaker 2: Whatever?

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Speaker 4: What even is like sponge?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know that is so anyway, For my

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Speaker 3: mom's birthday, they had a taramasou that's weird.

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Speaker 2: Which weird, weird birthday cake, weird whatever.

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Speaker 3: But even though I dislike it, I took a slice

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Speaker 3: and did the thing where I take little bites and

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Speaker 3: move it around.

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Speaker 2: Gave the rest of the boo. Yeah, of course, because.

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Speaker 3: We're all sitting it's like eight of us at a

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Speaker 3: table together.

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Speaker 2: Why does your mom not know that you hate Team Sue?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever told her that.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have very many desserts growing up, so there's

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Speaker 3: not much knowledge there, Eddie.

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Speaker 4: I'd be more annoyed, though, if I was somebody who

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Speaker 4: liked tearra Masue and I saw this chick pretend and

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Speaker 4: I'd wasted your kids. She's wasted Sky. Oh great, Sky

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Speaker 4: wasted a piece of my cake and he said, hey,

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Speaker 4: no thanks, Hey thanks, do I can have that later?

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Speaker 2: Crush it. Really, it's rude.

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Speaker 3: Take the smallest slide wanted, take one tiny bite. Happy birthday?

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Speaker 2: Why what do we I don't get what's rude about it.

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Speaker 3: It's part of the celebration. It's like if everyone's singing

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday and you're standing there not singing.

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Speaker 1: No, it is, well, this is nuts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, eat the cake. I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I don't want it so healthy.

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Speaker 3: I'm going a journey.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome.

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Speaker 4: I guess what we're not having today, Taco Bell.

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Speaker 2: That's right, buddy.

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Speaker 4: This makes me sad.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sorry,