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Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is the final all hour for me.

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Speaker 2: Dan will be in tomorrow night. And we continue with

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Speaker 2: Kevin Brasler of checkbook dot org, and we're talking about

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Speaker 2: some real solid tips for travel not you know, these

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Speaker 2: are real actionable stuff, stuff that will save you a

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Speaker 2: lot of money, stuff that might save your trip. In fact,

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Speaker 2: what should we talk about next? We didn't talk about

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Speaker 2: the insurance yet. I might as well get that out

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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 3: Way, out of the way. Yeah, I have our argument

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 2: We have an ongoing argument. I'm sort of changing my

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Speaker 2: mind a little bit. But uh, do you recommend that

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Speaker 2: you get the insurance A the insurance the airlines offer

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Speaker 2: or B third party insurance? Why or why not?

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Speaker 3: Okay, definitely don't buy the stuff the airlines are offering you.

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Speaker 3: And definitely don't buy the stuff like all these travel websites,

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Speaker 3: these booking websites offer you, because what they're offering is

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Speaker 3: like trip cancelation and interruption coverage. And if you if

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Speaker 3: you dig into these policies that like the American Airlines

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Speaker 3: Travel Protection Plan that they're selling you, you know, I

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Speaker 3: dug into what it's like thirty pages. There's all these exclusions.

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Speaker 3: They have all these reasons for, you know, denying your claim.

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Speaker 3: So don't buy those plans. If you want to buy

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Speaker 3: travel insurance, buy what's called there's two types. One's called

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Speaker 3: cancel for any reason, and that is what it sounds like,

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Speaker 3: where if you can't make the trip, either because there's

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Speaker 3: a death in your family, or somebody gets sick, or

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Speaker 3: there's some kind of turmoil in that part of the world,

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Speaker 3: or you just decide you don't feel like going, you

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Speaker 3: can cancel your trip and they'll give you your money back, however,

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Speaker 3: any prepaid fees back.

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Speaker 2: However, there are restrictions.

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Speaker 3: There are still restrictions, and a big one is that

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Speaker 3: say so, the good news is these days, if you

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Speaker 3: decide not to take a trip and you cancel your

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Speaker 3: air ticket, you say, okay, I'm telling the airline I'm

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Speaker 3: going to cancel my tenerary. The good news is they'll

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Speaker 3: give you a trip credit. They won't charge you this

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Speaker 3: two hundred dollars change fee that they used to charge everyone.

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Speaker 2: They just is that a thing with all airlines at

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Speaker 2: all levels, even the cheap tickets.

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Speaker 3: Except basic Economy. With Basic Economy, you usually if you

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Speaker 3: cancel your ticket, you don't get your money back, or

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Speaker 3: you only get fifty percent back, depends on the airline

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Speaker 3: where you're going. For these cancel with any reason travel

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Speaker 3: insurance policies, they only kick in for money that you

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Speaker 3: have lost, that you prepaid for a trip that you

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Speaker 3: can't get back. And if you get back a trip

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Speaker 3: credit from an airline, they consider that, well, you didn't

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Speaker 3: lose anything, can you still the value of that ticket?

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Speaker 3: And so, as you know, Bradley, we've talked about this before,

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Speaker 3: and I actually written about your experience once. Didn't use

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Speaker 3: your name, but you can use mine. But no, actually,

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Speaker 3: but you decided not to go to like Greece. You

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Speaker 3: remember that you had a Basic because I wrote about

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Speaker 3: it because and you had a Basic Economy ticket and

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Speaker 3: you so you said, I did it, decided not to go.

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Speaker 3: You had bought the cancel for any Reason policy, and

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Speaker 3: you called the insurance company and they said, okay, we

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Speaker 3: just have to prove to us that you didn't get

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Speaker 3: a trip credit. Well, you can't prove a negative. It

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Speaker 3: was a Basic Economy fair there is no trip credit,

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Speaker 3: and it just it was a lot of hassle for you.

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Speaker 3: I think you did get your money back, but it

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Speaker 3: was a big hassle. It was interesting to get back.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting because, first of all, the restrictions on

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Speaker 2: that are significant. In that particular policy, you had to

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Speaker 2: do this cancel for reason within forty eight hours of

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Speaker 2: departure right number one and two. You only get seventy

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Speaker 2: five percent of your money back, right.

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Speaker 3: And another problem with these plans is that they are expensive.

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Speaker 3: You end up paying it's usually between fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: So if it's a cruise and you paid five thousand dollars,

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Speaker 3: the travel insurance for that cruise could be like eight

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Speaker 3: because to me that much, well it can't be. You know,

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Speaker 3: as you're getting up in years, Bradley, your premiums are

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Speaker 3: because you need surgery, or I had something happen, or

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Speaker 3: They don't always cover the full cost to your trip.

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Speaker 3: But the good news is with these plans is they

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Speaker 3: don't have this long list of exclusions the stuff that

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Speaker 3: the airlines are, so this stuff the airlines are, Sonny

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Speaker 3: that here's why you should buy travel insurance to cover

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Speaker 3: unique trip, if you're booking a cruise and there's no

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Speaker 3: refunds allowed period, consider getting travel insurance. Although personally I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't buy it. If you're gonna take if you're like

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Speaker 3: doing some kind of group tour or package or something

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Speaker 3: like that in Europe, you have to pay up front.

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Speaker 3: I guess consider buying it, but just know it's expensive.

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Speaker 3: I alce took a trip to Alaska and I stayed

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Speaker 3: And it was one of those things where, uh, well,

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Speaker 2: The one where there went farest fires?

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Speaker 3: Well that was that was a different thing. It was

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Speaker 3: the same trip, but this place was like six hundred

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Speaker 3: and I was like, man, my mom hasn't been well.

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Speaker 3: I end up not buying the insurance, but I mean

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Speaker 3: I didn't feel good about it. Those are the types

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Speaker 3: of trips where if it's high risk, if you know, look,

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Speaker 3: then it's it's expensive for what it is. The other

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Speaker 3: type of plan that you should consider buying, though, are

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Speaker 3: medical plans. If you're going abroad and you're on Medicare

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Speaker 3: and some private health insurance plans won't cover you either.

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Speaker 3: So if you have private insurance or Medicare advantage, check

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Speaker 3: to see what you get. Does it cover foreign medical care,

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Speaker 3: Especially if you're older, it's important that you might be

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Speaker 3: important to you have that coverage, especially going a part

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Speaker 2: You gave me the first numberty grand.

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Speaker 3: No, it was like it was around two hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on to church. Yeah, joined the Church

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Speaker 2: of Latter day Saints. They'll take care of me.

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Speaker 3: No, But so yeah, I think you know that's something

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Speaker 3: worth buying, is if you're going abroad, especially if you're

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Speaker 3: financially catastrophic to you. So you need to ensure your

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Speaker 3: If you haven't sure, you need to ensure. If you

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Speaker 3: everyone really needs healthcare insurance. Otherwise, you know, if you

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Speaker 3: think you should buy insurance for it. But you should

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Speaker 3: buy insurance against the risk of needing to be evacuated back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the same page as this is what

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Speaker 2: I did this time for the upcoming trip. I only

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Speaker 2: they said how much is your cost? I said fifty bucks.

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Speaker 3: So the good news is that these plans. These days,

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Speaker 3: there's there's a couple of websites, ones like I don't

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Speaker 3: know It's at cover your Trip or travel insurance dot com.

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Speaker 3: These these websites have these comparison tools or for multiple policies.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't want to do that online they

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Speaker 2: go back to something you said? I want to make

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Speaker 3: If you just have Plan A and B or just

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Speaker 3: A for Medicare you do not have coverage for for medical.

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Speaker 2: But most everybody has to have the what's it called

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Speaker 3: Some do, some do. Medicare advantage plans tend to have

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Speaker 3: some coverage. Yeah, when you travel abroad, but it's you.

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Speaker 3: It could be a low limit. So it really does

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Speaker 3: is like with these plans, you can buy an annual plan.

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Speaker 3: So if you know you're going to take three trips

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Speaker 3: again the travel insurance overall, as with any insurance, you're

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Speaker 3: that's the way they make money. With these trip cancelation

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Speaker 2: So the takeaway from US is, according to Kevin our guests,

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Speaker 2: is he doesn't recommend you really buy insurance just to

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Speaker 3: eighty percent highly favorable or whatever, I only want to

436
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Speaker 3: be in this neighborhood. You can kind of narrow it down.

437
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Speaker 3: The only risk with these hot wire hot rate deals

438
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Speaker 3: Priceline Express is what they call them, is that you

439
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Speaker 3: have to prepay. So you say, okay, this is the

440
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Speaker 3: one I want. You put in your credit card number,

441
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: you hit book, and you're locked in. There's no backing

442
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Speaker 3: out at that point. If you're not happy, or you

443
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Speaker 3: change your mind, or you've done what I've done before,

444
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Speaker 3: which is I booked for the wrong days, then it

445
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Speaker 3: becomes a hassle. But I have found that the hotels,

446
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 3: they won't refund your money. But if you if you

447
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Speaker 3: need to change your travel plans to move your trip

448
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Speaker 3: to different you know, weekend or my case, like book

449
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Speaker 3: the wrong weekend entirely, I can usually call the hotel.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, this.

451
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Speaker 3: Is the thing about travel providers, is it's their business

452
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Speaker 3: to accommodate people and good hotels, the highly rated ones

453
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Speaker 3: for example, or more likely than not to say, oh, yeah,

454
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Speaker 3: you screwed up, We'll go ahead and move your state.

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Speaker 2: No, I would like to ask you this question should

456
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Speaker 2: have a brief answer. When you have an airline that

457
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Speaker 2: has partners, say is Delta and Delta and Swiss together.

458
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's like Delta air France, maybe Delta. Okay, let's

459
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Speaker 2: just say there is. Yeah, what if the flight you

460
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Speaker 2: choose as you gone one airline out and the other

461
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Speaker 2: one back, does that present risks?

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Speaker 3: I don't worry about that. What I worry about is

463
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Speaker 3: change in airlines midstream, right. Uh. You know, I know

464
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Speaker 3: a lot of people they find out I found it

465
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Speaker 3: was cheaper to fly from Maui to la on the

466
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Speaker 3: last airlines and then to switch to Delta, so.

467
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Speaker 2: Buy another ticket.

468
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but then now they gotta you know, come out

469
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Speaker 3: of security, get their luggage if they have checked bags,

470
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Speaker 3: switch terminals, go back through security just takes a long time.

471
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Speaker 3: And also if there's a delay on one end of

472
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Speaker 3: their trip, well, you know the second and the second

473
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Speaker 3: half of the triple, Delta doesn't have to commodate you.

474
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Speaker 3: You're you're not late because of Delta, you're late because

475
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Speaker 3: of some other airline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So these people who do that, I always think

478
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Speaker 3: that's little nuts. Personally, I do think it's worth paying

479
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Speaker 3: attention to, especially with these mixed fares as you describe them. Yeah,

480
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Speaker 3: is there some kind of terminal change and my connection is.

481
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Speaker 2: Extra complications and if something goes wrong you call airline

482
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Speaker 2: one that you book through, Yeah, and they go, oh no,

483
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Speaker 2: now you're going to talk to airline too, even though

484
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Speaker 2: their partners you didn't book it.

485
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Speaker 3: It's a little more competent. Yeah, I have you know,

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Speaker 3: I have booked often booked flights through American airlines website

487
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Speaker 3: that have me on British air and I haven't had

488
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Speaker 3: trouble at all, and they seem to be pretty synced up.

489
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Speaker 3: I think Air France, Kaleum Delta, they're very much synced

490
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Speaker 3: up because they're basically flying you across Europe and the

491
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Speaker 3: same tubes.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's another thing. You may be booking thinking and

493
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Speaker 2: going the whole way on airline one, say Delta, but

494
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Speaker 2: you didn't notice that. You can check, but the second

495
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: leg of your fly might be on some entirely different

496
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Speaker 2: airplane airline you thought was Delta. It's say it'll say

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Speaker 2: Delta flight one, two, three, four, operated by air small

498
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Speaker 2: Greek airline. Yeah, it's good to know ahead of the time.

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Speaker 3: That's good to know, and it doesn't worry me so

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Speaker 3: much as long as again, you don't you know, you

501
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Speaker 3: have to like midstream change terminals and do something.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's disconcerting. You're looking for that maybe a

503
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Speaker 2: little your brand, and you say, WHOA, I don't know

504
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Speaker 2: if I trust this airline, this weird airline stuck way

505
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Speaker 2: out in some sad little corner of the airport you

506
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Speaker 2: have to take the bus to. They're not a very

507
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Speaker 2: they're not very high on a totem pole here.

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Speaker 3: My favorite is when I look for Airfair and I say, oh,

509
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Speaker 3: this looks like a good price, and in the the

510
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Speaker 3: itiner area is flying from DC to LaGuardia and then

511
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Speaker 3: from there having to make my way to jfk oh

512
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Speaker 3: All to Europe, and I'm like, no, nobody's doing this.

513
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Speaker 3: And then you have this shuttle so it's supposed to

514
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Speaker 3: be so I'm you know, okay, but you still gotta

515
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Speaker 3: go across Long Island. Basically you gotta go.

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Speaker 2: It's a giant hassle when you're really tired and lugging

517
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Speaker 2: stuff around and maybe you have gets you can't. That

518
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Speaker 2: is a huge thing.

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Speaker 3: Got to collect your It's just too much.

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Speaker 2: There's another thing to watch out for. When you're booking tickets.

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Speaker 2: You may forget to check the layover A lot of

522
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Speaker 2: times I'll say, oh wow, look at that airfare. Make

523
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Speaker 2: sure you read about the connection time before you.

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Speaker 3: Click twenty hours at Casa Blanca.

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Speaker 2: For twenty four or thirty two hours, then maybe you

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Speaker 2: have time to go into the town. But you gotta

527
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Speaker 2: check all those little details. It is a lot of work,

528
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Speaker 2: isn't it. I'm surprised I even bother.

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Speaker 3: I mean, some people they do it on purpose. They

530
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Speaker 3: want to spend twenty hours in Casablanca, they want to

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Speaker 3: have a meal there, and I don't know. But for me,

532
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Speaker 3: I know, I want to get to where I'm going.

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Speaker 3: I don't that that whole long layover thing. It's just

534
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Speaker 3: not for me, you know.

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Speaker 2: Okay. We have some more actionable, solid information and travel

536
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Speaker 2: tips coming up on WBZ.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on

538
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Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: More excellent travel tips with Kevin Bresla from checkbook dot org.

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Speaker 2: This is important. I'm surprised we let it go. This

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Speaker 2: long sell service your phone. I used to be I

542
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Speaker 2: use it. As you may know, I used to be

543
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: very frugal and cheap and buy everything cheap. And now

544
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm not cheap. I'll play more, I'll pay more. And

545
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Speaker 2: I don't really have any more money. It's I don't

546
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Speaker 2: have the patience I used to. Maybe I'm just older.

547
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Speaker 2: I want a little more comfort, I want a little

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Speaker 2: more convenience. And before I would I didn't get any

549
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Speaker 2: cell service. I what did I do? I just would

550
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: use messenger but that way, but that way you can't.

551
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't get directions, I couldn't use apps to find places.

552
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Speaker 2: So finally I decided on a cell plan, and I

553
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Speaker 2: wanted you to talk to us about well the ins

554
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: and outs of that.

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Speaker 3: All right, So the good news is when you go abroad,

556
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Speaker 3: if you have you know, with if you're with T Mobile, Verizon,

557
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: AT and T and even some of these resellers, right,

558
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: your phone will work when you get abroad. Although if

559
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: you're like with a smaller company like Consumer Cellular or

560
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: Boost or Mint or whatever, you need to find out

561
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: in advance what you need to do to get your

562
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: phone to work abroad, or even if you can. But

563
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Speaker 3: with the three main carriers, your phone's gonna work when

564
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Speaker 3: you land abroad. That's the good news.

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Speaker 2: You purchasel, No, it'll work, Oh, it'll work. What what's

566
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Speaker 2: in the play is how much.

567
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 3: You want, how much you could pay for the privilege,

568
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: right because these companies they have partnerships with the cell

569
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Speaker 3: companies in Europe. But you you may pay extra, and

570
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Speaker 3: with some of these plans you may pay a lot

571
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Speaker 3: extra if you don't have a research in advance. So

572
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: so the best deal for international travel in terms of

573
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Speaker 3: US cell phone carriers is probably T Mobile because T Mobile,

574
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Speaker 3: if you're going to Europe most countries in Europe, you

575
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Speaker 3: don't pay anymore U to have Gervis in Europe, so

576
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: long as you have a conventional plan. If you have

577
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: these prepaid plans, it's a whole different topic, okay, But

578
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 3: if you have a regular plan with TEA Mobile, your

579
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: phone is going to work in Europe and you don't

580
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: have to pay more. That's a nice thing. With AT

581
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: and T, your phone will automatically switch over to its

582
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Speaker 3: international calling stuff. And it's ten bucks a day for

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00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: the first line, and I think five bucks a day

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00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: for the second line. And you can buy a monthly

585
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: plan if you're going to be there for a long

586
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: time to make it makes more financial sense. But just

587
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: you know, for for me in my family and the

588
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: family of four, you know, these costs start to add

589
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: up right ten dollars a day per line. Right with Verizon,

590
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: it's now twelve dollars a day per line. So a

591
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: family of four is gonna pay forty eight dollars a

592
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Speaker 3: day for the privilege of having a non bricked phone.

593
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: When abroad, Verizon finally started waving that extra and you

594
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: also had to enroll on that plan. You had to

595
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Speaker 3: know to enroll on Verizons per day plan before you go,

596
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: otherwise they're going to charge you per like megabyte of

597
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: data and stuff in the cost.

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Speaker 2: If you send a video, you're going to get kids.

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Speaker 3: I've talked to people who had thousands of dollars, you know,

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00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: came back home and a few days later got their

601
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: cell phone bill and it was four thousand dollars because

602
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: they didn't notice.

603
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: Is there any way out of that? Are they stuck?

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00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: Not really pretty much stuck. So you have to know

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Speaker 3: any advanced with Verizon. Exfinity is another one. They have

606
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: a cell service for their their data home internet customers.

607
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 3: They're basically reselling Verizon stuff. They're charging ten dollars a

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Speaker 3: day per line. So for me, when I had Exfinity

609
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: for a while, Exfinity Mobile, we go abroad and I'd

610
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: tell my kids, you'd put your phone airplane mode for

611
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: this whole trip, because I'm not paying twenty dollars a

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Speaker 3: day for their lines.

613
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Speaker 2: And if they sent a video to their friend.

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00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: Well they have to do it over Wi Fi, right,

615
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: and so you know before if they obeyed you, they

616
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: were they were annoyed. The good news is Verizon started

617
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: waving that twelve dollars a day fee or whatever, but

618
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: only if you're with its top top tier plan. And

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Speaker 3: so you know, you're you're paying hundreds of dollars a

620
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: month for the privilege of having Verizon top to your plan.

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Speaker 3: You may be saving something when you're fad, but I'm

622
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: not sure to worth that. I think the short answer

623
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Speaker 3: is the best deal is T Mobile. Another good deal

624
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: is you can buy a SIM. You can actually before

625
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: your trip or once you get there, you can switch

626
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: your phone over entirely to that foreign carriers network and

627
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: it's a lot cheaper. It's like, you know, a couple

628
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: of dollars a day and.

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Speaker 2: You and you have a different phone number.

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00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: Right now, you have a different phone number, You're you're

631
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: you're old. If most new phones have dual SIM capacity,

632
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: So somebody from the US is trying to call or

633
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: text you, you'll get it. But yeah, it with with

634
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: older phones that don't have that. If switch back and forth,

635
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: people will not be able to touch with a little

636
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: bit of a pain is if you're going to be

637
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: abroad for three months, you definitely should get one of

638
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: these others because you just don't have to pay.

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00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: Some okay, and it is super imperative that you have data,

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00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: and you have really unlimited data because there's so much

641
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: stuff that you have to do online, uh where not

642
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: just get directions, but if you plan on going you

643
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: say I'd like to go on a side trip to

644
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: a town maybe an hour out of town, you have

645
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Speaker 2: to have the phone to book the.

646
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Speaker 3: Tickets right because they know what train to get on.

647
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Speaker 2: And know what train right, what train to get on,

648
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Speaker 2: because if you don't, you have to go to the

649
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Speaker 2: station and there may not be tickets there and and

650
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: so you need to You've got to book stuff in advance.

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00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: And if you want to make a reservation at a restaurant,

652
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: perhaps it's really imperative.

653
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean there's there's Wi Fi abroad is way better

654
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: in Europe and in Asia is usually way better than here.

655
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: But if you're in a building, it's you got to

656
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: find out their password, and if you're if you're on

657
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: the street, you got to go in some restaurant and

658
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: ask that password. You got enough on your mind.

659
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: And the other thing is that, uh, you know, outside

660
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: the US, like the standard communication tool isn't texts and

661
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: phone calls, it's it's What's app. What's which is an

662
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: app that you know basically Facebook bought up a while back,

663
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: but that's their standard way of communicating. They generally don't text.

664
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: They use WhatsApp to send these texts. And it's Internet based,

665
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: and so if you don't have an Internet connection or

666
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: sell connection, then you're not gonna get messages. You need

667
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: to meet up with the host for your apartment or whatever.

668
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: You're just not gonna be able to communicate with people

669
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: in Europe. You know, you're not gonna be able to

670
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: tell a restaurant yes I can from a reservation kind

671
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: of stuff like that.

672
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: All right, we have only one more segment left here

673
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: with Kevin Wrestler, and then well I'll be out of here.

674
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: Dan Ray will be in tomorrow night on Nightside.

675
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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

676
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: news radio.

677
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Only a few more minutes left with Kevin Bresler. Check

678
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: book dot org. You might want to check that out.

679
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Check book dot org some real solid travel tips. It

680
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: almost there's so many things that can go wrong, it's

681
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: almost would make folks go, never mind, I'm staying home.

682
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've gotten back from some trips and said, that's it.

683
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm not going anymore.

684
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: We say it all the time, that's it. I'm done.

685
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: I'm not worth the hassle.

686
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm gonna. I always say I'm just gonna

687
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: go up to New Hampshire or maybe maybe Quebec, and

688
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: then it never happens. Yeah, okay, Uh, we haven't mentioned

689
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: the reminder to check out the plugs that you have

690
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: to use in your country. That.

691
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of I know a lot

692
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: of people they just enjoy kind of you know, flying

693
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: by the seat of their pants, right, But I think

694
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: there's some things that are just worth checking in advance.

695
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: You know, what you know are if you're in really

696
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: anywhere outside the Europe, outside North America, the plugs you use,

697
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: what you plug in when you go abroad. There's different plugs.

698
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: You buy adapters. It's really easy to do, but just

699
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: you know, there's different types. Know which one to get.

700
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: You know, we mentioned WhatsApp, you know, just kind of

701
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: find out, you know, how to people mostly communicate in

702
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: the country.

703
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: Make sure to check out find out what app is

704
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: used to get transportation. Yeah.

705
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the weird thing.

706
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: Is we're in a lot of places not the case.

707
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: Uber sometimes lifts, sometimes it doesn't. Some countries, like just

708
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: got back from Barcelona and there there aren't there is

709
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: an uber or lyft, but there are ten cabs every

710
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: block it seems like waiting to pick you up. And

711
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: it's good to know and advance. Hey, you know that

712
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: they're only going to charge me eleven euros or something

713
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: to get me mostly across town. It's pretty cheap to

714
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: get a cab. In Barcelona and some other cities it's

715
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: a lot more expensive to get a cab. And in

716
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: some cities the cab doesn't have to give you any

717
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: information on fares. They drop you off and can demand

718
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: fifty bucks.

719
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: Well that's not a genuine cab.

720
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: It's not. But just in sometimes be careful.

721
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: About getting a genuine gap.

722
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: I think it's just it's good to know in advance

723
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: what the norms are how the cabs operate. Is it

724
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: a meter, Is there an app for it? Is there

725
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: an express train into the sea one some If it

726
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 3: doesn't have a meter, don't get in it. Yeah, it's

727
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: just so much easier now to research these things than

728
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: it used to be because of the Internet, obviously, but

729
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: I just think, you know, before you go, just take

730
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: those basic steps. The other thing I do is I check,

731
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: so I'm just not confused when I get on the ground.

732
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: You know, what's the tipping norms in that country? They

733
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: very tremendously from country to country in Europe and across

734
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: the world. In some some countries, you know, tipping is

735
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: just kind of unheard of, and so you know you

736
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: don't need to worry about it. In other countries like Spain,

737
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: it's not expected, but it's appreciated. If you tip five

738
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: ten percent of your restaurant bill. Cabs don't really expect

739
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: it at all. I mean, it's just kind of different.

740
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: Everything sure is quick story.

741
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: And if folks know you're an American, they're going to expect

742
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: a tip because they know, yeah, you're used to tipping.

743
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: And in Istanbul, my brother and I ate to this

744
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 2: place and we I guess didn't leave what the guy

745
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: thought Americans were used to leaving or should leave, and

746
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: he yelled at us, actually physically yelled loudly in the

747
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: restaurant backsheesh, backsheesh, which I guess means it has to

748
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: it's about money. Yeah, And he, you know, yelled and

749
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: embarrassed us, and then we thought, what's going on? Are

750
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: people going to come after us? Backshish?

751
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: I just in general, I find the tipping thing is

752
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: to me is it's always a little uncomfortable you no

753
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: matter where you are, right right, But if you know

754
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: and advance what the norms are and what they expect,

755
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: it just makes it a little bit smoother for me.

756
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: Isn't it difficult for you to not tip like a

757
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: little bit, especially say you're in France and they don't

758
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 2: expect it, but they've been so nice to you, Ben.

759
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: Translate everything for the rest of the family or whatever, right,

760
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: and the kid doesn't want what's on the minute, she

761
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: wants pasta just with a little bit of butter, and

762
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: trying to explain that, and they're so welcoming tonight, and

763
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: then and then it's they don't expect any tip it

764
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: all because they because they get paid at a living wags.

765
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: Like a waiter's job in Paris, for example, is a

766
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: good job to have because you know, they have pretty

767
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: short hours and then they get paid wage.

768
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

769
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: I like to tip, not as not twenty percent, because that's.

770
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: Like ooh this, that's like, yeah, you're it's like.

771
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: You're a sucker American. But you give them something more

772
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: than they're used to, but not as much as we pay.

773
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: Somewhere in the countries that is normal, like it is

774
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: like tipping norms are more and as you said, in

775
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: some countries, like in the touristy areas which I kind

776
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: of try to avoid restaurants tours series, you know, so

777
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: in I think a good example is in like Prague

778
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: when I was there, and in Barcelona, tipping really isn't

779
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: expected at all. Most people don't tip, or they tip

780
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: me only like five or ten percent. But if you're

781
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: in like the more touristy restaurant, no, there's actually a

782
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: place on the uh you know, they bring you the

783
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: thing to your table to pay, right, they don't. They

784
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 3: don't take your credit card and come back with it.

785
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: They have a little wireless thing. A lot of US

786
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: restaurants are doing this now, and in those restaurants, it's

787
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: actually there's a place where you can add gratuity because

788
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 3: more Americans are there, and therefore you know, they're happy

789
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: to get the money, right, And so now it's uncomfortable again,

790
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: right like, well, normally people don't tip, but I guess

791
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tip here because you're presenting with the option. Again,

792
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 3: it's just better to know in advance what the norms

793
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: are and what the the customs are, and so you're

794
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a little bit easier. I find

795
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: a little more comfortable to know in advance what but

796
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: expects them.

797
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 2: Here's a good one. Watch lots of YouTube videos about

798
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: where you're gonna go. I don't know if you do.

799
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: I do that a lot. For Spain, there's this guy

800
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: named James Blick who's just fantastic. And then for France

801
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: there's live Frenchies, this husband and wife who just they

802
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: go to French restaurants and they talk about the place.

803
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: And that way, I found restaurants that I wanted to

804
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: go to and I don't. I don't feel bad if

805
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 2: I don't get there, but at least if you walking

806
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: by and say, hey, we saw that one on the

807
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: headline and you have some idea of what it's like

808
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: and it's kind of fun.

809
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: Or you know what to expect. If you're renting a

810
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: car and you go through a toll plaza, Okay, god,

811
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: what do I which? Which one am I looking for?

812
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: You know which sign above which thing? And how am

813
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: I going to pay? It's just better to know in advance,

814
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: which is and that's why I said to do a

815
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: little bit of research and advance, because driving in Europe

816
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: can be very different than here in some countries. If

817
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: you're going from Germany, which really doesn't have many toll

818
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: roads at all, into you know, Slovakia or whatever, like

819
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: the toll roads. Oh no, you need to buy this

820
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: pass for your car. Basically, you need to register your

821
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: license plate to pay for the tolls in advance. It's

822
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: like plate passes here in the US, but you may

823
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: not know about that. You get all the way over

824
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 3: there and you have to register this thing and it again,

825
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: if you don't have a good cell service, kind of

826
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: go into panic mode. It's just better to know and

827
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: advance what you need to do so that once you

828
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: get there, you're just not trying on the fly figure

829
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: stuff out to me that's just it's just more comfortable

830
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: for me to know and advance what I need to

831
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: be doing before I get there.

832
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: What do you have to offer on whether to drive

833
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 2: or take a train at your say.

834
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: You're in Europe, I strongly prefer trains, but when I'm

835
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: traveling with my family, it just becomes a little It's

836
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: usually easier just let's just run a car because there's

837
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: four of us, we have a lot of luggage and right.

838
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: And you'd have to pay four train.

839
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: Tickets for train tickets. And then also I always.

840
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: Feel and your kids would complain.

841
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: I think they'd like to they'd like the trains. I

842
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: just feel now more responsible, Like in Europe sometimes you

843
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: only have like two minutes to change trains if there's

844
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: a transfer.

845
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just you know.

846
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: If it's just me and I miss it or what,

847
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: I'm fine. But now I'm there, I'm like the travel dad,

848
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: and I'm like responsible for everyone, and there's a lot

849
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: more pressure there.

850
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: What about tips on when you rent a car and.

851
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 3: Well, I would say, first of all, be patient because

852
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: for some reason, renting a car in Europe often can

853
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: take an hour for them to get to you in

854
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: line and to pull the car around or tell you

855
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 3: where it is. And also in Europe they are far

856
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: more particular about every little nick and scratch on that

857
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: car than most US car companies are. So definitely before

858
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: you leave with your car, you take a video of

859
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 3: the whole car and note every little piece of damage

860
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: on there. The good news is they are less pushy

861
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: about insurance there because by law on the EU, for example,

862
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: the car insurance company, they have to carry a lot

863
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: of liability covering. And also if you're booking with a

864
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: travel where they have a credit card, you get some

865
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: protections there, so you're usually better covered in Europe by

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Speaker 3: default than you were in the US.

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Speaker 2: I have one tip learned the hard way about train travel.

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Speaker 2: There's so many trains, even in smaller stations, that you

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Speaker 2: may know where you're going to go at what time.

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Speaker 2: So you go out to platform three and you generally

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Speaker 2: you see it's close to the time your train's coming.

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Speaker 2: Say it's one o'clock and you see a train pulling

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Speaker 2: it twelve fifty five, we would tend to think, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be my train. Do not assume that

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Speaker 2: trains have numbers. Check the number on the ticket, because

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Speaker 2: that train could be would leave and then your train

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Speaker 2: could be coming one minute behind that. So I made

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Speaker 2: a mistake in some tiny place in Normandy and on

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Speaker 2: the wrong train we got We thought, this is our train.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's you know, this has to be it.

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Speaker 2: We got on and it was the wrong train. Happily

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Speaker 2: we were able to get off, and there was a

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Speaker 2: connection that was had the same connection, so we were

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Speaker 2: able to It was all right, but it was a

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Speaker 2: close call and it would have been just a kind

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Speaker 2: of an expensive pain. Well, let's do it for tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us. You flew all the way

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Speaker 2: from DC to be with us, and it's really helpful.

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Speaker 2: Checkbook dot org does have a lot of information on services,

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Speaker 2: including all this travel stuff, and this is a good article.

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Speaker 2: If there's something that we touched on that you want

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Speaker 2: to know more about, you want the whole article. It's

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Speaker 2: called sixty Strategies for finding the best travel deals and

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Speaker 2: avoiding trouble and that's checkbook dot org and uh I

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Speaker 2: kind of recommend it. Kevin. We really appreciate you coming

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Speaker 2: by here in person. It's always so great to have

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Speaker 2: someone in the studio and you know you have a happy,

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Speaker 2: happy trip to wherever you're going next, where.

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Speaker 3: You go next, I'm not sure. I mean, we just

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Speaker 3: got back from Spain and you take a breather, all right.

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Speaker 2: So thanks to Troy, thanks to Rob Brooks for working

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Speaker 2: the wheel back there and Master Control, and to all

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Speaker 2: of you. Thank you for your support and being with

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Speaker 2: us on night side for the past few days. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Dan Ray will be in tomorrow.