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Speaker 2: They have leaned into the fact that as much, you know,

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Speaker 2: had several looks on stage where yes, he's he's great,

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Speaker 2: and he's got a beard. And actually Sam Rivers kind

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Speaker 2: of looked like this too, Like Sam Rivers doesn't look

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Speaker 2: or didn't look that different than from Kyle Gas from

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Speaker 2: Tenacious Tea, you know. But you know, Fred durstill gets

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Speaker 2: and really does lean into yeah, no, I'm an old

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Speaker 2: man now, Dude, I don't care and so.

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Speaker 3: I need blue shoe for my biscuit.

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Speaker 1: Randy Bellman and the DVE Morning Show.

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Speaker 3: It is the DV Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Randy Bauman is off today, same with Mike Pursuitas We've

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Speaker 3: Our producer is Jacob Breck.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Tim Benz for joining us last hour to

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Speaker 2: talk Steelers.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be talking with Jerry Dulac later.

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Speaker 2: In the show to continue helping us process Thursday Night football,

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Speaker 2: but we got to get ready for Sunday as well

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Speaker 2: as the Steelers will be taking on the Packers, so

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Speaker 2: we got to lick those wounds get ready. Of course,

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Speaker 2: we are your Steelers flagship here on DVE. Sunday's countdown

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Speaker 2: to kickoff with Tom Offerman and Matt Williamson begins at

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Speaker 2: four thirty pm, so you can start plaanning the tailgate now.

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Speaker 2: Mike Pursuda, Bob Labriola and Jerry Dulac continue the pregame

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Speaker 2: coverage at six point twenty. Kickoff at eight twenty pm

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Speaker 2: with Rob King, Max Starks, and Missy Matthews.

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Speaker 2: High of fifty nine. Mancini's Bread yesterday revealed it's Batman

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Speaker 2: inspired bread in honor of actor Michael Keaton's appearance for

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Speaker 2: the launch of the Pittsburgh Walk of Fame, which does

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Speaker 2: happen today. The bread was displayed at Mancini's Strip District

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Speaker 2: location because of its proximity to the nearby terminal, which

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Speaker 2: is where.

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Speaker 3: That walk of Fame is going to be located.

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Speaker 2: And that ribbon cutting ceremony is going to be at

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Speaker 2: ten thirty am. So if you don't have a place

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Speaker 2: to be get down there, you can go ahead and

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Speaker 2: walk over to the terminal.

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Speaker 1: Log off and get in the car, right.

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Speaker 2: I guess why not, especially if you're downtown and you

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Speaker 2: you know, are going to be kind of close by,

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Speaker 2: because Michael Keaton is going to be there because he's

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Speaker 2: getting inducted today, and I think he is the only

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Speaker 2: celebrity that will absolutely be there.

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Speaker 1: Because some of them have passed, right Like this is.

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Speaker 2: So along with Keaton, the first people to get Walk

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Speaker 2: of Fame stars, which again this is going to be

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Speaker 2: be noted jazz musician George Benson, pioneering journalist Nellie Bly,

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Speaker 2: industrialist and philanthropist Andrew Carnegie.

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Speaker 3: This is why they can't make it. Conservation that's the bummer.

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Speaker 2: Conservationist Rachel Carson, Pirates Hall of Famer and humanitarian Roberto Clemente,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he's the only.

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Speaker 3: So that's yeah, that's the thing. That's why they booked him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I found sure.

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Speaker 4: That's there's family members, like I think we heard that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this morning, did you see Junior will be there?

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Speaker 4: The Manes bread art.

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Speaker 3: Bill baking bread, Yeah, in two arts.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is not easy. It's not easy at all.

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Speaker 3: Remember the show nailed it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes, yeah, you try to make a bread.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right off. Yeah, your sight win a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Dallas Batman, it's tremendous. Listen, No, it's definitely Batman.

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Speaker 3: It measures four feet by four feet. Its two hundred.

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Speaker 4: That man heavy ass bread.

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Speaker 3: And it's delicious.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait for that picture. I don't know, is

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Speaker 4: it it's got to be edible, but they painted it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's edible paint.

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Speaker 3: It's not easy. Bread is unpredictable.

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Speaker 2: No, everybody who survived uh their sour dough era of COVID.

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Speaker 2: I can do this, and then learned how hard it

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Speaker 3: Shut up about the you know.

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Speaker 6: hey here, eat your face.

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Speaker 1: Eat your face off tonight.

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Speaker 2: So, like you know, they screen, they take, they took

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Speaker 6: Your photos stay intact, like though like it looked exactly

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Speaker 2: That's a sad I'd be like, oh man, Okay, we

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Speaker 2: did not get to this story last week because again

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Speaker 2: we were talking so much stealers on Friday. But a

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Speaker 1: I saw the headline. I didn't see any video from it.

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Speaker 3: It's weird.

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Speaker 2: Noah Thomas, nineteen years old looks much older, is facing

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Speaker 2: the way, the postcut like over a hundred likes.

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Speaker 3: So totally worth it.

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Speaker 1: That stinks.

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Speaker 3: Not a good influencer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that's an okay jumper, I mean, not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's dumb. I mean there are things out

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Speaker 4: to go into those enclosures, I mean some of those enclosures,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I just remember going to that tiger.

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Speaker 4: Exhibit and there's a ravine in between where you are

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Speaker 2: Did you see recently I'm trying to remember which zoo

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cracked it like terrifying.

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Speaker 2: Just don't get any closer than you've already been permitted.

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Speaker 3: It's not smart.

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Speaker 2: There's even the Columbus Zoo is a really nice zoo,

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Speaker 1: That's the one you can drive through.

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Speaker 4: Because isn't that the one that Jack Hannah like that

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Speaker 2: Yes, And what's nice about it is they have again

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Speaker 3: Barriers are what you know, you almost as.

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Speaker 2: A patron, can't perceive that there's barriers between you and

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Speaker 1: Right, they hide the enclosure, right.

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Speaker 2: But I could see in the stupid human trick brain

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 2: No, But in this influencer world where you know, somebody

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Speaker 4: I mean they have the same kind of setup at Disney,

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Speaker 1: Have you ever done that?

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Speaker 3: No, I have seen, though it looks amazing.

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Speaker 4: It is that one is not like you're at a

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Speaker 4: just like those ducky tour boats. Yeah, and a giraffe

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Speaker 4: they have it all figured out, but they don't, and

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Speaker 4: things happen there.

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Speaker 2: It's still an animal, Yeah, it still has free will.

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Speaker 1: A very large animal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever been, Like, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: I have been to that summer safari before at the zoo.

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Speaker 3: It's a nearly.

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Speaker 4: Because I'm I'm I love those animals. I want to

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Speaker 4: They're in somebody's backyard and they're miserable.

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Speaker 4: From the you know, the desert or the jungle. I'm

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Speaker 2: This is the kicker, because I'm sure she's very easy

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Ohani Noah, who was married to j Lo from nineteen

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Speaker 2: You have had good relationships me. For example, I was

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Speaker 2: So Noah said that Jlo lied and cheated and chose

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Speaker 4: It's crazy, but I think I could knock Jlo's head

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Speaker 4: So what I would say to j Loo is what's

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Speaker 4: So if you got a problem with your partner.

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Speaker 1: Guess who picked them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's something in you that you're still not

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Speaker 1: Love yourself, love is everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Well I'm not trying to get too deep this morning,

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Speaker 1: Dated Ben Alack twice?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's not like you're you're picking guys

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Speaker 2: They are a holes out loud like this really from Afar,

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Speaker 4: I don't even know who that guy is. Like in

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Speaker 4: the timeline of j lo Partners, where is.

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Speaker 2: He very very beginning of Pree knows job? Okay, pree

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Speaker 4: Okay hook knows j Lo. All Right, it's good to know.

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Speaker 4: Put that in my notes.

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Speaker 5: In the.

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Speaker 6: I like the advice to jlo Is calm don Calm down,

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Speaker 6: Shuttle call him.

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Speaker 6: Nobody would have thought that the pit Panthers would pat

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Speaker 4: I mean it's crazy to me to think that Brett

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Speaker 6: what five Stanley Cups championships to show for it, yep,

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Speaker 6: and twice they won back to back. And so you know,

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Speaker 6: the Packers have two championships to show for the thirty

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Speaker 6: four years that they had two Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Right and in Crosby got there early. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean to go to four and to win three.

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of people are frustrated with the

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Speaker 4: Penguins and their their current state and the rebuild and

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Speaker 4: should they have gotten rid of some of the old

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Speaker 4: guys and and all that stuff. But to see that

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Speaker 4: kind of run, I mean, fan bases just don't get

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Speaker 4: to experience that.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean, it's that's that's amazing, and it's the

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Speaker 6: amazing the Penguin's fortune that they would just as Lemieu

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Speaker 6: was in the Twilight of his career and retired at

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Speaker 6: that point that they would get the good fortune to

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Speaker 6: not only have the number one pick and get flurriyed,

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Speaker 6: and not only have the number two pick and get Milk,

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Speaker 6: and and then they get the number one pick in

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Speaker 6: the lottery and get Sidney Crosby and then followed by

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Speaker 6: Jordan Stall I mean, and have Crystal the Tang drafted

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Speaker 6: in the In the in between all of that, the

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Speaker 6: Penguin's fortunes were amazing, and you know, that's it's it's

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Speaker 6: interesting to me that when the Penguins won the Cup

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Speaker 6: in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: I was on the ice and asked Mary.

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Speaker 6: It was one of the group of people that asked

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Speaker 6: Mary Lemieux about are the Is this Penguins team now

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Speaker 6: a dynasty? And he was very quick to say no,

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Speaker 6: But what they did in the salary cap.

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Speaker 1: Era is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty it's pretty amazing that they did were able

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Speaker 6: to do that in a salary cap era.

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Speaker 4: What do you think about this game on Sunday night,

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Speaker 4: because I you know, we've been sitting here talking about

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Speaker 4: it all morning, I mean, Abby and I started the

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Speaker 4: show sort of wondering what this team is, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it seems like they they've.

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Speaker 1: Definitely got some problems.

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Speaker 4: They started the season kind of where they left off,

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Speaker 4: not being able to stop the run, figured that out

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Speaker 4: for three games, and then it's weird. It's ugly head

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Speaker 4: again in the last two and here comes Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 4: and Jonathan Taylor, two of the best running football teams

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Speaker 4: in the NFL are coming to town in the next

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: I think you captured it right there, Bill, with the

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Speaker 6: sense of the Steelers have been a team that when

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Speaker 6: they are super Bowl caliber champion team, it's with the

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Speaker 6: number one defense in the NFL. And to have that

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Speaker 6: type of a defense, you can't just have the pass rush.

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Speaker 6: You have to be willing to willing and able to

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Speaker 6: stop the run. And that's where you know they drafted

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Speaker 6: Derek Carmon tried to address it, but I feel like

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Speaker 6: that's where the Steelers need to be better is stopping

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Speaker 6: the run. And you know, if you're not going to

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Speaker 6: stop the run, I don't know how you're gonna be

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Speaker 6: able to pressure the passer. But they have to be

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Speaker 6: able to do if that's if that's your mo if

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Speaker 6: you're a pass rushing team, you need better performances out

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Speaker 6: of a TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward. You know, you need

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Speaker 6: those guys to show up in a game where they

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Speaker 6: didn't in Cincinnati. I think what they had something like

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Speaker 6: two tackles between them or.

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Speaker 3: Two they split split the spoils of that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: TJ had half a sack early, he had a sack late,

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Speaker 4: but in between there was there was not much pressure

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Speaker 4: on Flacco at all. And when an old guy is

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Speaker 4: dropping back forty nine times, you got to make him

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Speaker 4: feel you. You got to you gotta hurt him, you

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Speaker 4: got to get him off his rhythm. And they just

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Speaker 4: never seem to be able to do that.

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Speaker 6: No, And that's that's what this this Steers defense. I

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Speaker 6: think Brett Farv is the ultimate ultimate game manager at

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Speaker 6: the stage of his career, but you have to have

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Speaker 6: a defense that can You.

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Speaker 4: Mean Aaron Rodgers, I say that far Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: a completely different game, but yeah, yeah, Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers at forty one years old.

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Speaker 6: You're not expecting him to carry the team, but he's

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Speaker 6: going to be able to pick a team apart if

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Speaker 6: you give him some time in the pocket. Yep, he's

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Speaker 6: not going to handle pressure very well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they seem to be doing that.

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Speaker 4: That's the you know, the sover lining to come out

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Speaker 4: of Thursday night is the offense looks like it's clicking.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're running the ball efficiently, They're getting

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Speaker 4: the ball to all their tight ends that they have.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, they're getting in the end zone,

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Speaker 4: they're scoring points. It's just they've got to be more

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Speaker 4: efficient at possessing the ball and timely drives that. You

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Speaker 4: know that that interception that he threw to DK deep

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Speaker 4: there that was on a first down, you know, is

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Speaker 4: that a necessary shot to take? Like I'm I'm I've

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Speaker 4: hated how conservative the offense has been at times, but

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Speaker 4: there's also context of a game where the Bengals just scored.

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Speaker 4: Maybe try to put a drive together, try to keep

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Speaker 4: Flacco on the sideline for a little while, let him

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Speaker 4: cramp up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they have to stop the run. I mean that

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Speaker 6: has been a problem for the Steelers. It was a

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Speaker 6: big problem for them last year, especially in the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: especially against the Ravens. And you know, you can't be

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Speaker 6: a team that has Super Bowl aspirations and can't stop

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Speaker 6: the other team from controlling the clock, simple as app.

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Speaker 4: Good stuff, Kevi. We'll talk to you again next hour. Abby,

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Speaker 4: what are we talking about the top.

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Speaker 2: Of the hour, There was a bold historic raid at

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Speaker 4: Still got Jerry d coming up at eight forty five

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Speaker 4: and up next we're gonna dig into the show. Hey o,

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Speaker 10: day Off, Bill Prawford, Abby Krisner, our producer Jacob Brett,

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Speaker 10: and Kevin Gorman doing sports for us this morning and

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Speaker 10: hanging in studio and Kevin, I'm glad you're in here

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Speaker 10: because I wanted to get you in on this conversation

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Speaker 10: since you're a baseball guy, you know, in the in

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Speaker 10: the age of extreme language and hyperbole, it's easy to

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Speaker 10: say things are the greatest thing we've ever seen, or this.

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Speaker 1: Player is the goat.

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Speaker 4: But we just saw pitchers strike out ten batters and

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Speaker 4: hit three homers in a postseason series clinching game. It

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Speaker 4: seems like this performance is hyperbole proof. How do you

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Speaker 4: contextualize what we just saw this weekend from Shoho Tani.

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Speaker 6: The only way to take it down a notch it

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Speaker 6: is to make the argument that it wasn't the greatest

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Speaker 6: single performance in sports history. I don't think anybody will

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Speaker 6: argue that it was the single greatest performance in baseball

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Speaker 6: playoff history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a.

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Speaker 6: Matter whether you put it into a greater context than

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Speaker 6: anybody ever had. A bad Johnson had forty two points

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Speaker 6: filling in, you know, playing center in game I think

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Speaker 6: it was games six or seven in the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I've seen that argument of what Magic Johnson

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Speaker 6: did when Kareem abdul Jabbar was injured and Magic played

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Speaker 6: center as a point you know, I think it was

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Speaker 6: a rookie point guard, a six foot eight I mean,

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Speaker 6: that's that's the type of context we're talking is that

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Speaker 6: is this the greatest individual performance in sports history, not

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Speaker 6: just baseball history.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's.

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Speaker 4: Certainly the best one inning that anybody has ever had.

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Speaker 4: I know, you've got some stats over.

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Speaker 6: There, so many first it's kind of mind boggling to

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Speaker 6: Sarah Langs from MMB dot com, who does a lot

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Speaker 6: of great statistical thing like she finds the history. She's

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Speaker 6: a reporter editor from MMB dot com. Also battling a

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Speaker 6: courageously battling als.

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Speaker 7: O.

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Speaker 6: Tawni is the first picture to hit a leadoff home

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Speaker 6: run in any game, regular season or postseason as a

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Speaker 6: pitcher as a picture. Yeah, first picture with multiple homers

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Speaker 6: in a postseason game. First player to strike out five

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Speaker 6: five batters in a game where he hit three home runs,

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Speaker 6: and he had ten k's and six plus scoreless innings,

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Speaker 6: so he also had a quality start here any game,

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Speaker 6: regular or postseason. He was the second time in his

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Speaker 6: career that he's had at least ten strikeouts and multiple homers.

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Speaker 6: He's the only player in Major league history.

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Speaker 1: To do it twice. Baby Ruth include wo come on.

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Speaker 6: First player to strike out a batter and hit a

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Speaker 6: home run in the first inning of a postseason game,

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Speaker 6: So he had to strike out and hit a homer.

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Speaker 1: You know, coming into that game, nobody knew how he's

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Speaker 1: going to be.

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Speaker 6: He isn't pitched in a thirteen days second Tommy John

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Speaker 6: surgery that he came back from.

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Speaker 1: And to come out like that to start the games

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Speaker 1: striking out.

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Speaker 4: The side and then to lead off and hit a

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Speaker 4: home run the first twenty minutes of that game.

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Speaker 1: Nobody who was there or watched that will ever forget that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So he's the first player to strike out a

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Speaker 6: batter and hit a home run the first inning, first

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Speaker 6: player to strike out three batters and hit a home

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Speaker 6: run in the same inning in the postseason. So I

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Speaker 6: think he had two k's in the fourth and hit

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Speaker 6: a second home run in the fourth inning. So he's

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Speaker 6: had multiple strikeouts and a home run and one inning

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Speaker 6: multiple times in one game. First player with multiple career

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Speaker 6: postseason innings, multiple strikeouts.

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Speaker 1: And home run.

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Speaker 6: The three home runs in a postseason game he pitched

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Speaker 6: are the most of any player in a career and

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Speaker 6: games pitched, and two players had two, Bob Gibson and

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Speaker 6: Dave McNally the third. It was the thirteenth three home

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Speaker 6: run game in postseason history. So he's got one one

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Speaker 6: of thirteen and this is in a game which he pitched.

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Speaker 6: But here's the part that where this is the blow

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Speaker 6: me away stuff. All of those first are enough to say, wow,

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Speaker 6: that's amazing. Then you get into he's the first player

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Speaker 6: with multiple home runs at least one hundred and sixteen

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Speaker 6: mile peror exit velocity. So all three it had at

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Speaker 6: least one sixteen So we're talking O'Neil Cruz type of

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Speaker 6: bombs lasers in the stat cast era as they like

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Speaker 6: to say, which is only since twenty fifteen. His home

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Speaker 6: runs had exit velocities of one sixteen point five, one

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Speaker 6: sixteen point nine, and I think one thirteen point six.

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Speaker 6: We had two of one sixteen plus.

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Speaker 4: And they traveled thirteen one hundred and forty two feet,

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Speaker 4: maybe because one of them left the park.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we're not even sure how far that way. Two

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Speaker 6: of those home runs he hit while he was pitching.

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Speaker 6: So like most pitchers go into the dugout or go

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Speaker 6: into the clubhouse and rest, and this is a guy

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Speaker 6: who had to go up and take at bats during

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Speaker 6: his time pitching, which doesn't happen in baseball anymore. It's

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Speaker 6: not to say it never happened, but it doesn't happen anymore.

665
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Speaker 6: It was the eighth home run of at least four

666
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty feet at Dodger Stadium. He had he

667
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 6: had one that was measured a four sixty nine, but

668
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 6: as you said, it exited the ballpark, so we don't

669
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Speaker 6: really know just how far it travel.

670
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Speaker 4: That's an est hit something before it stopped. Yeah, yeah,

671
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: I mean that's incredible.

672
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Speaker 1: Abby. You have some of the sound. Let's stop teasing people.

673
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: You just kind of have to hear it.

674
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Speaker 9: In Game four of the LC asset, there goes O

675
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 9: Toddy show, Hey, lighting up the highlights already.

676
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, asked the bomb that left the park to.

677
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 10: Oh to dinny, O Toddy has done it again.

678
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: He is only the seventh player in history to hit

679
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: it out of the park.

680
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 6: And unbelieva, what a perfect name. You know, you've got

681
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: the show, Hey, the show, and then the oh Toddy.

682
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 6: You know, to have to have a player like him

683
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 6: in this day and age of specialization, to have a

684
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 6: guy who's a two way player and arguably, when healthy,

685
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 6: he's as good as any pitcher in baseball.

686
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, they asked Freddie Freeman about it, and what I

687
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: loved about watching Freddie Freeman, you know last year's World

688
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: Series MVP watch o Tawni is that his brain was broken.

689
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: He couldn't process even what he was watching.

690
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: And he said, I don't know if he's the greatest

691
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: player to ever live, but I can definitely say in

692
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 4: my lifetime certainly, like we're we're never going to see

693
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 4: this again, because these players are once in a million years.

694
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Speaker 6: You know, it's not even once in a generation.

695
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: I mean, no, this is once in one hundred and

696
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: twenty five years. I mean all of the numbers that

697
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm seeing are since nineteen hundred.

698
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

699
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Speaker 6: And the other part of it is Babe Ruth played

700
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 6: during the era of segregation, so we don't know he

701
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 6: played barnstorming. He played against the Negro leagues, but they

702
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 6: didn't play in the major leagues at the time, so

703
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 6: we wun't know how it compares me. Shoe Hee Atani's

704
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 6: playing at a time when all of the greatest players

705
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 6: in baseball are playing in the majors. I mean, that's

706
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 6: the highest and not only has he done it in

707
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 6: the major leagues, but he did it in the Worldaseball

708
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 6: Classic when he struck out Mike Trout, who was considered

709
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 6: the best player in baseball at the time, struck out

710
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 6: Mike Trout to to win the WBC for Japan against

711
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 6: So I mean, it's what we're watching here is absolutely incredible.

712
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 6: Here's the last part of it is two of his

713
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 6: three strikeouts in the first came on pitches of one

714
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 6: hundred miles an hour faster.

715
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Speaker 1: He threw the.

716
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 6: Fastest the eleven fastest pitches of the game, had the

717
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 6: three hardest hits of the game, hardest hit balls of

718
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 6: the game, and the three longest distances of the game,

719
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 6: and the most swing and misses.

720
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Speaker 1: Of the game.

721
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 6: This is a game dominated in every facet. It's absolutely

722
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: amazing to watch and to.

723
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Speaker 1: The series that iculous.

724
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 6: The clinch of sweepover the team had the best record

725
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 6: in baseball, and I'm gonna unabashed. I love Mookie Bets.

726
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 6: I love watching Mookie Bets, and I I would say,

727
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: you know, Mookie Bets could be the best player in baseball.

728
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 6: He's not even the best player on his own team.

729
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 6: And there's an argument you can make that Freddy Freeman

730
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 6: could be. I mean, there are three MVPs, which makes

731
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 6: it all that much more incredible. What you know Paul

732
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 6: Skians and Bubba Chandler have done against those three in

733
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 6: their career, even Karmen Maginski, Uh, you know, and I

734
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 6: think uh Rat Ashcraft, I think those guys have all

735
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 6: had success facing one, two, three in the order three

736
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 6: former MVPs. And I had a long conversation with Carmen

737
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 6: Magensky in particular about what's that like as a young

738
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 6: pitcher to face to face those guys. So that's what saying,

739
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 6: because it's got to be terrifying. Well, no, I mean,

740
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 6: you're never really out of danger. That's that's one hundred

741
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 6: percent true. The terrifying part. These guys all believe they're

742
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 6: the best in the world at what they do, and

743
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 6: to some degree they are. I mean they're they're the

744
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 6: best in the world.

745
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: They may not be.

746
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 6: He may not be the best pitcher in baseball, but

747
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 6: he's a major league pitcher, so that makes him, you know.

748
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: Better than most people that have ever picked up a baseball.

749
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, you think of the best player you ever played

750
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 6: with or against and how far did they go and

751
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 6: realize that you don't know many that were capable of

752
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 6: making it to the miners, let alone the majors. Yeah,

753
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 6: and you know you think about that part of it.

754
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, I used to think about that all

755
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: the time because.

756
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 4: I used to work out a trees haul up at

757
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: pitt and because my dad worked at Pitts, so I

758
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: had a free pass to get into that gym, and

759
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 4: I would just watch some of the guys playing basketball

760
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: in there, and these guys were jumping out of the gym,

761
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: absolutely no chance at making it in the NBA. And

762
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 4: then somebody like Lebron comes along or Kobe or one

763
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: of these players doesn't even go to college and is

764
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: playing with grown men and dominating them. I mean, that's

765
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: the level athlete we're talking about.

766
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember, I remember playing pickup basketball with a

767
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 6: guy who played at CCAC. His name is Derreck Myers.

768
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 6: He played at CCAC South. And then he goes a

769
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 6: scholarship to Florida State and this guy was awesome. He

770
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 6: was only like five ten or five eleven, but he

771
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 6: was fantastic and playing against him a lot and think

772
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 6: of Wow, this this is what it takes to be

773
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 6: a D one basketball player. This guy and then he

774
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 6: went and played Florida State against UNLV and against Greg Anthony,

775
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 6: and Greg Anthony just wiped the floor with him, And

776
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 6: I thought, how.

777
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: Good is Greg Anthony?

778
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 6: Yeast the NBA and you saw guys that, you know,

779
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 6: Greg Anthony was a great NBA player, but there were

780
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 6: guys that could wipe the floor with him, and you're

781
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: thinking like, oh my gosh, like yeah, you know, it

782
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 6: makes you realize just how very, very mortal you are.

783
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

784
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: When I when I was a senior at alderd Ice,

785
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: the best player I ever saw live and in person

786
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 4: was Rod Rutherford. Lightning Rod for Perry. We played Perry,

787
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 4: they beat us fifty six nothing. He accounted for all

788
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: fifty six points. He was the quarterback and he was

789
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: a safety. He had, you know, three pick sixes, multiple touchdowns,

790
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 4: ran for touchdowns, like just unstoppable. Never really found a

791
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: place at the NFL level.

792
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is no. But I think he

793
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: was on. I think he was.

794
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 6: On the Steelers Super Bowl team and got a ring,

795
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 6: but I don't think he played really. I think he

796
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 6: was likering quarterback on I'm not one hundred percent on that,

797
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 6: but I mean I know he was with the Steelers.

798
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 6: He spent some time with the Stewards and some time

799
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 6: with the Panthers. But I mean, he was a first

800
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 6: team All Big East quarterback, and he obviously was thrown

801
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 6: to Larry Fitzgerald, which helped. But I mean, you know,

802
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 6: Rod Rutford was a special, special flower.

803
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

804
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 6: I mean I went to high school with Brian Gelsizer,

805
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 6: who played linebacker at Penn State and was also drafted

806
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 6: by the Kansas City Royals. And I played basketball with him,

807
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 6: which was his third best sport, and one he didn't

808
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 6: pick up the ball because he was playing baseball in

809
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 6: the summer and football in the fall, and he didn't

810
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 6: pick up a basketball and they just start draining threes

811
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 6: and I'm just like, my god, this guy's just an

812
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 6: unbelievable athlete. And he heard his knee. He got drafted

813
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 6: in the NFL and hurt his knee and never made

814
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 6: it in the NFL. And it's like he's the best

815
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 6: athlete I was ever around, and he was phenomenal. We

816
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 6: all thought he was going to play professionally, and I

817
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 6: went to high school with some people who did play.

818
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 6: Damon Denson played in the NFL, and I went to

819
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 6: high school with some professional athletes. But it's a different

820
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 6: type when you see guys that are not only you know,

821
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 6: good enough to beat professional athletes, but then you talk

822
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 6: about the best of the best, and shohe A Tawny's

823
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 6: clearly one of one in today's world, and that's and

824
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 6: globalized the game. And here's the thing that I read

825
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 6: this weekend that really blows your mind. As you know

826
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 6: that he's got I think sixty eight million dollars of

827
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 6: his seventy million dollars salary on annual basis, I think

828
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 6: he's a seven year, a ten year, seven hundred million

829
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 6: dollar contract and sixty eight million of it per per

830
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 6: year is the third that's seven hundred million dollars in

831
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: his first year with the Dodgers. They made that in

832
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 6: ticket sales, merchandising, everything, They've already made.

833
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: Their money back. That's he's already worth it.

834
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 6: That's where I think that's the amazing frustration of Pirates

835
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 6: fans is that is that they have a guy in

836
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 6: Paul's schemes who can compete with shoehe A. Tony struck

837
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 6: him out the first time he faced him as a rookie, took.

838
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: Him deep the next time, but still, but that's a

839
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: great battle. Yeah, you know, it's funny.

840
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 6: You know, Bubba Chandler under his breath, you know, Bubba

841
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 6: Chandler gave up a monster shot to show hey, and

842
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 6: and was just like he said, he turned around and

843
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 6: was like an awe and just like, wow, Okay, this

844
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 6: is what it's all about. But after the game, he

845
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 6: was like, he'll never hit another home run off me,

846
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 6: you know, like, and I, you know, kind of joyous

847
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 6: say that's because he'll never see another pitch that's.

848
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: A strike zone from you right now.

849
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 6: He's like, your damn rights, no chance he's ever gonna

850
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 6: get one that's in his wheelhouse. So but but that's

851
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the competitive level that you get from

852
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 6: those type of guys. And I think if I can

853
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 6: extend any hope to the Pirates, it's that you look

854
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 6: at the Brewers that had the best record in baseball

855
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 6: and a team that was good top to bottom in

856
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 6: their owner one through nine, everybody could hit. They didn't

857
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 6: have the starting pitching to face a team like the

858
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 6: Dodgers and the Pirates do. They don't have the hitting.

859
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: That's why they're a ninety one loss team. But if

860
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 6: they can add the back you think about a team

861
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 6: that can throw out there next year. If they were

862
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: to be a postseason team and everybody stays healthy and

863
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 6: everything goes well, they have Schemes and Chandler and Keller

864
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 6: and Jones and and Oviedo and a bunch of young

865
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 6: arms and the bullpen. If they're not in the rotation,

866
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 6: you have all of a sudden Majinski and ashcrafton and

867
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 6: and Burrows. You start thinking about the young pitching the

868
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 6: Pirates have. They have the pitching to compete in the postseason.

869
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 6: They just need to get the bats to get them there.

870
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 4: Well, show hey is going to be watching the game

871
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: to night to see who they're gonna face in the

872
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 4: World Series.

873
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. That game is at what

874
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: time tonight? Eight oh eight?

875
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 4: Eight oh eight. All right, thanks Keviv. I'm glad we

876
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: had you in for that conversation. Abby, what are we

877
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: talking about the top of the hour, We're.

878
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: Going to learn how to tell if somebody's lying to you.

879
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: Plus we still got Jerry d at eight forty five

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Speaker 4: talking Steelers.

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Speaker 1: It's the DVE Morning Show.

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Speaker 7: DV presents The Small Dwaltz Saturday November twenty second at

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Speaker 7: Mister Smalls Theater, at eight pm, Randy Bowman's Ramble Band

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Speaker 7: celebrates the music of the band's iconic concert film The

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Speaker 7: Last Waltz, featuring Jokerschecky Clinton, Clay Molly, Alphabell, Paul Luke,

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Speaker 7: Jen Wurks, Phil Dacy, Liz ber Lynn, John Binley, Bill Toms,

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Speaker 7: Rob James, Mike Mende, the Full Ramble, Horns, and more.

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Speaker 7: Don't miss this Thanksgiving tradition as Randy Bowman's Ramble Band

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Speaker 7: performs the full soundtrack of the band's.

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Speaker 3: Film The Last Waltz.

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Speaker 7: A portion of the proceeds benefit the Greater Pittsburgh Community

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Speaker 7: Food Bank. Tickets for The Smalls Waltz available at the

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Speaker 7: Mister Smalls box office or at DVE dot com.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Bill Crawford for zer Rez.

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Speaker 4: You know it's spooky season when the cobwebs in your

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Speaker 4: vents start waving back