WEBVTT - 3-23-26 Scott Sloan Show

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be an American.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go Monday morning. The fun is

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<v Speaker 2>behind you now, the outdoor fun is behind you, the

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<v Speaker 2>brief dabbling of summer. And it felt like Florida yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>here in Cincinnati, record high princh temperatures. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>head out this morning and back to wearing a jack.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we roll in the Queen City. Baby Scott's

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<v Speaker 2>loan back with you on seven hundred WLW, jumping right

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<v Speaker 2>in with this. On Friday, President Trump said he was

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<v Speaker 2>considering winding down the US military operations in Iran, and then,

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<v Speaker 2>in true Trump fashion, by Saturday night, he was threatening

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<v Speaker 2>to strike their electrical grid and their infrastructure to get

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<v Speaker 2>the straighter her moose back open. Meanwhile, Democrats partially shutting

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<v Speaker 2>down government over DHS reform. And now we have unpaid

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<v Speaker 2>TS agents using sick day, so that means shortest, it

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<v Speaker 2>means long lines at the airports. That means ice agents

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<v Speaker 2>are being used now to help support those on the job.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is problematic for sure. We got lots going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me bring in on this. Congressman Greg Lansman

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<v Speaker 2>from here in Cincinnat, Eddie, how are you by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg has been waiting. He is at Dulles right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been waiting in line since Thursday afternoon. How's it.

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<v Speaker 2>How's the way going, how's the way going.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm home. I'm home. I'm home. No, it's bad.

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<v Speaker 4>They you know, they need to pay TSA immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's the votes are there for it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's lunny like sometimes the solution is so simple. And

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<v Speaker 4>the majority leader Senator Soon republic and when said Trump

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday and just said, look, we can pass a funding

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<v Speaker 4>build of fund TSA, and Trump said no, yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Last go around a well last go around it was okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so voters playing Republicans for the shutdown TSA and okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well get back to the most six months ago. And

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<v Speaker 2>now it's the other way. The Democrats are like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're the ones that are because they want uh they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they want these these other things in there

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<v Speaker 2>with the the voting at the Save USA Act. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's most people looking at like, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>we We keep hearing this movie over and over. Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>fault Republicans, fault Republicans, fault Democrats, fault Yeah. The fact

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<v Speaker 2>of the matter is you got these people who are

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<v Speaker 2>working expected to work and they're burning through their six

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<v Speaker 2>days when they need them, and uh, it just it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's so mindless. Why are we doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's a it's a leadership piece or issue. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So the majority of us in Congress, on both sides,

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<v Speaker 4>we would pass a funding bill right now that would

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<v Speaker 4>fund TSA, FEMA, you know, Secret Service, Coast Guard, everything

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<v Speaker 4>but Ice. As the Ice negotiations continue and it gets

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<v Speaker 4>stopped at the top, it gets stopped with the Speaker

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<v Speaker 4>and Fune and fun Tribe yesterday to just go to

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<v Speaker 4>Trump and say, look, we have the votes to fund

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<v Speaker 4>TSA and and and you know, let's just go ahead

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<v Speaker 4>and get it done. And for whatever reason Trump said no.

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<v Speaker 4>My feeling is they should just go ahead and put

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<v Speaker 4>it on the floor. Let us pass a funding bill

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<v Speaker 4>to fund TSA. I've seen the Secret Service, and if

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<v Speaker 4>he wants to Trump wants to be to A, he can,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't think he will.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but it's sticky, it is. You know, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of problems in this country. And you see

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<v Speaker 2>these long lines now Brandon and not everywhere. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, you know, two hour await just to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the terminal in New Orleans is absolute sandy,

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<v Speaker 2>especially this time of the year, and it's only going

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<v Speaker 2>to get worse. I get the same America Act. I

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<v Speaker 2>get the premise of it. I kind of question why

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<v Speaker 2>we need it if the you know, the number of

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<v Speaker 2>people who are actually falsifying and going to vote are

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<v Speaker 2>very very very small in the odds of someone casting

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<v Speaker 2>a vote in this country. Believe, it's like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>that big, it's not a big deal. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, it's like, Okay, I got to show an

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<v Speaker 2>ID for everything else, why is this a.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad but Sonny I called Halton County just to see, like,

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<v Speaker 4>how many you know, non.

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<v Speaker 3>Citizens you know noted? They said zero.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we don't have said what they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to prevent you know, tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 4>Americans from voting because you'd have to go in. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>if this law were to pass, it's really just to

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<v Speaker 4>save Trump, you know, Bill, it doesn't It actually would

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<v Speaker 4>probably be the biggest blowdour democracy of voting rights.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>But it would it would require you to go in

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<v Speaker 4>with a bunch of paperwork to prove your citizen to

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<v Speaker 4>register to vote, as opposed to just having you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Rose could right now just check every registrant against

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the BMV data, right and if there was

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<v Speaker 4>an issue, he could then send it to that person

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<v Speaker 4>and say, hey, you're not in the BMV. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I need some paperwork. You could do that right now

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<v Speaker 4>and make sure that zero zero percent of or one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred percent of all registered voters are American citizens, as

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<v Speaker 4>opposed to, you know, preventing folks from registering to vote

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<v Speaker 4>because they've got to go get a social they got

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<v Speaker 4>to go get a passport, or they got to go

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<v Speaker 4>get a birth certificate or whatever that and on the

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<v Speaker 4>voter ID. We have the most stringent a voter ID

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<v Speaker 4>law arguably in the country. And our idea would you work.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, everyone would have to go get new IDs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's absurd.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I did that with a with a real idea act.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know. The other cry is as much

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans talk about these illegals voting, which isn't happening by

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<v Speaker 2>any measurable maybe a handful in the last twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>The other side is Democrats love talking about voter suppression,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, we live in an age man where it's

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<v Speaker 2>easier to vote than ever before. I mean, you should

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<v Speaker 2>have some form of identification just to live your life

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<v Speaker 2>as an American, and in other countries it's certainly a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more onerous the ask for you to prove your

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<v Speaker 2>papers and stuff like that. Just knowing who you are

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<v Speaker 2>and be able to sort your identity out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it takes. We have thirty days of open voting, we

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<v Speaker 2>have thirty days where you can do mal in batting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's never been easier to vote. So I don't I really,

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't. But I don't buy it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>buy the voter suppression thing. I just don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time something like this happens Democrats about voter suppression,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't think it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, because you you probably weren't one of the hundreds.

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<v Speaker 3>Of thousands of people who were purged.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and and have because I'm alive, not dead.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why the dead.

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<v Speaker 4>People I've met so many of these people who have

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<v Speaker 4>been they've been voting their entire lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And the the the voter piece, the I D piece

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<v Speaker 4>is fine. Like I grew up, I had to show

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<v Speaker 4>identification was that big of a deal. Now now it's

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<v Speaker 4>a Now it's an ID, and and and and it's fine,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are a lot of folks who don't have

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<v Speaker 4>the ID.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to go get. They got to go get.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't drive, they got to go. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>go get.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you know, a state I D and this would

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<v Speaker 4>federalize elections and our IDs wouldn't work. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>a disaster either way that he shouldn't be holding uh

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<v Speaker 4>funding for.

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<v Speaker 3>T s A.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the whole well, I mean there's there's also

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<v Speaker 2>the other, the other political side of the alb but

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<v Speaker 2>I I just hate the people that you expect these

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<v Speaker 2>folks to be on the front lines. We're not paying them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a second why would anyone want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>TSA agent now because there's a good chance every six

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<v Speaker 2>months you're not going to get paid. Representative Greg Landsman

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<v Speaker 2>on the show this morning, I will set that one aside.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the Iran thing. You're one of the very

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<v Speaker 2>few hawkish Democrats who thought, hey, you know what, we

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<v Speaker 2>cut the head of the beast off. But are you

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<v Speaker 2>surprised and what do you say relative to your support

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<v Speaker 2>and now it looks like, you know, we're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to have allies in this thing. The rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>world saying we don't want anything to do with this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a hot mess straight Oh, Hormus's bloss gas prices

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<v Speaker 2>here the triestate gregor up to four bucks a gallon

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<v Speaker 2>right now, it is it's a mess right now. How

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<v Speaker 2>do we get out of this?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean the Krandain chief president is going to

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<v Speaker 4>have to you know, navigate his way out of this.

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<v Speaker 3>And I wish I.

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<v Speaker 4>Could, you know, help with the allies, but it does

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<v Speaker 4>require the commander in chief to pull together a coalition

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<v Speaker 4>to get the sort of reviews piece resolved the operation itself.

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<v Speaker 4>Had he just been clear from the beginning and and

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<v Speaker 4>and said to the American people what was true, and

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<v Speaker 4>that is, Look, the regime was building back up its

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<v Speaker 4>missile shield around its enrichment facilities. They're going to try

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<v Speaker 4>to enrich They're going to try to take the enriched

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<v Speaker 4>uranium they have I get it to weapons grade. That

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<v Speaker 4>could be catastrophic. Let's let's go ahead before it's too

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<v Speaker 4>late and deal with this weapon shield. That was the

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<v Speaker 4>entire operation, and now that it's over, he needs to

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<v Speaker 4>be done he needs to stop saying on one you know,

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<v Speaker 4>on one day, look we're winding down.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to be done. On the next day,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to start blowing stuff up. He needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be done. That will make a huge difference in resolve

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<v Speaker 3>of resolving this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exhausting. I mean, one day it's like, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna pull up. Now it's like no, Now we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to double down, and hey, what would be great if

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<v Speaker 2>our allies would come help us here? Not well, screw

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. We're going to go twice as it's like

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<v Speaker 2>every day is it feels like a year with what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on right now, I'm not helping himself. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, you know, as someone who grew up

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<v Speaker 2>during and remembers the Iranian hostage crisis, screw those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone is sad that the Eye Tooll

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<v Speaker 2>is dead, but now his sons in place, if he's

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<v Speaker 2>still alive, who knows what's going on there in Iran

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<v Speaker 2>right now, But they're they're holding up much and resisting

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<v Speaker 2>more than we thought. I certainly don't want to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, we deployed another Marine Expeditionary Unit GREG to

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<v Speaker 2>the region. I don't want troops on the ground. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's pretty clear for almost all Americans, especially Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>but even Republicans are overwhelming. Oh, this is just we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do this again.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, no troops, no troops, no, you know, extended variation

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<v Speaker 4>of this operation. The operation was destroy the missile shield,

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of the launchers, the rockets, the missiles.

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<v Speaker 3>And the navy.

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<v Speaker 4>That will, you know, make it much easier for us

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with the remaining and rest geranium, which we'll

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<v Speaker 4>deal with later.

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<v Speaker 3>But no ground troops, do not Mission treap here.

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<v Speaker 4>Be done, and being done will resolve a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>these other issues, including.

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<v Speaker 3>The straight of her views.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I want to win the limited time we

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<v Speaker 2>have left, Greg Landsman, I wanted to get into this,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something a little more controllable. We had at

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<v Speaker 2>least a dozen dozens of people at UC on Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>for a citizen forum on data center proposals spreading, and

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<v Speaker 2>that would be in Hamilton and Wilmington and Trent in

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<v Speaker 2>Maysville and maybe I'm Mount oreb and Kentucky and Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all over the place, and in Adams County for

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<v Speaker 2>that matter. And the key concern is energy costs are

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<v Speaker 2>going up, water usage is going to go up. Environmental

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<v Speaker 2>impact is an issue in a lot of cases, especially

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<v Speaker 2>Adams County. Is a like of transparency there, and small

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<v Speaker 2>communities are being outgunned by big tech. What was the

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<v Speaker 2>tenor that meeting on Saturday that you took part in.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, people are frustrated.

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<v Speaker 4>They want the data centers that they're going to come

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<v Speaker 4>in to pay for everything that they use.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, if they should.

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<v Speaker 4>Pay for all the water, although less just the all

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<v Speaker 4>their remediation, and and and and enough.

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<v Speaker 3>With these nbas. I mean, the Ohio is a state.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we're very proud about our open meetings laws

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<v Speaker 4>and in the sunshine laws.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And here you have these big tech companies coming in

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<v Speaker 4>and signing m d as with elected officials in these

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<v Speaker 4>towns and nobody knows what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's incredibly shady.

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<v Speaker 4>And and then you know, electricity bills go up in

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<v Speaker 4>addition to noise and all other all and a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of other issues. So you know, we have a bill,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we're leading the charge on this.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a bill called the.

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<v Speaker 4>Do No Damage Data Centers which would require number. Trump said,

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<v Speaker 4>he I I talked to all these big tech companies.

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<v Speaker 4>They're gonna they're gonna go ahead and pay their their

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<v Speaker 4>their their own way. But I did it with the handshake.

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<v Speaker 3>Ours would be the bill that would codify it.

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<v Speaker 4>It would say, look, they have to pay for everything

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<v Speaker 4>when they come in and go to data. They got

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<v Speaker 4>to pay for all their water, they got to pay

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<v Speaker 4>for all their electricity, and no one's rates can go up.

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<v Speaker 4>And if they don't do that, there will be severe penalties.

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<v Speaker 4>There are severe penalties in the still and no more nbas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that is the issue in Adam's gown. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been following that one out there. That's a good outlier

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<v Speaker 2>because they're kind of like tip of the spear and

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<v Speaker 2>they're putting a more toime as Cincinnati did. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was smart on Cincinnati's part, not that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if we're going to get a big data

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<v Speaker 2>center here in Cincinnati, but kind of pump the brakes

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<v Speaker 2>a second. I guess part of the problem is the

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<v Speaker 2>urgency of putting this online, because let's face it, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all if you're like, yah, screw big data in data centers.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what we're all part of the problem, the average American, Greg.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you know as twenty one devices at any

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<v Speaker 2>one time hooked up to the Information super Highway, which

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<v Speaker 2>essentially is the pipe in the Internet, and all that

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<v Speaker 2>requires data integration, requires AI, which is growing by leaps

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<v Speaker 2>and bounds, and so we're part of the problem. We're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the not in my backyard people right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, we want to use the phone. We expect

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<v Speaker 2>instant in from mentions, the touch of a button, at

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<v Speaker 2>the swipe of a finger, and you at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want the data centers going and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to work that way.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, it's coming and we all use it.

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<v Speaker 4>People think a lot of it is driven by AI,

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<v Speaker 4>big chunk of it is. But to your point, twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one devices are plugged in. I mean you're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>your iPhone and your computer and all those other you

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<v Speaker 4>get a.

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<v Speaker 3>Smart toaster or whatever. It is exactly right. So people

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<v Speaker 3>are using people are using it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the question to me is twofold one is

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<v Speaker 4>who pays and who benefits? And you know big Tech

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<v Speaker 4>and you know they got billions of dollars. There's some

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<v Speaker 4>of the richest people in the world. They are the

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<v Speaker 4>richest people in the world. They should pay. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want our chunds and our rate payers to pay. And

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<v Speaker 4>then when it comes to who benefits, we need to

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<v Speaker 4>get our act together to make sure that the people

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<v Speaker 4>who are benefiting from this AI revolution aren't just the

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<v Speaker 4>people at the top that it's it's everybody that our

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<v Speaker 4>kids are growing.

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<v Speaker 3>Up learning how to use this and they are the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ones who are going to benefit just as much as

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<v Speaker 4>anyone else. Otherwise it's going to create, if you know,

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<v Speaker 4>more unevenness in our economy if we don't, if we

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<v Speaker 4>don't resolve this, you know, digital divide issue immediately. But

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<v Speaker 4>the most version thing is who pays for these data

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<v Speaker 4>centers and our break Let's be very clear, let's protect our.

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<v Speaker 3>Towns and our ratepayers. Big tech to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And it's it's a catch twenty two because we

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<v Speaker 2>demand this stuff and yet we don't really want the

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<v Speaker 2>big power suckers that are the data centers out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a man. I don't mind the state leaning

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<v Speaker 2>into it saying, hey, we want to attract all of

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff because it's good for the future, for the

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<v Speaker 2>foreseeable future, but certainly the environmental, the water, and the

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<v Speaker 2>electricity issues are big ones at that. Should we be

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<v Speaker 2>fast tracking legislation and ease up a nuclear power I

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<v Speaker 2>know that other I know companies like Google and other

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<v Speaker 2>are going to build build them like nuclear reactors to

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<v Speaker 2>power not only their AI facilities, but also sell it

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<v Speaker 2>back to the grid. So it makes a lot easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a good idea?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think easing up on the right And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if you said this, but you know we

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to ease up on the oversight. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we got a fast track. We got to move these

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<v Speaker 4>things forward. I think it is It is a It

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<v Speaker 4>is a good source of energy, but we also need

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<v Speaker 4>permitting reform. I mean, this country is going to consume

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<v Speaker 4>an enormous amount of energy and electricity. We've been here before.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, somebody was mentioning.

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<v Speaker 4>When the air conditioner was invented all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that we were dealing with something similar.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, we we we can't we can handle.

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<v Speaker 4>This, but it does require us to produce more energy,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want it to be clean and that's a

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's a clean source of uh of energy

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<v Speaker 4>so long as it's safe. And you know that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>mean that we have to be you have to have

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<v Speaker 4>some oversight.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Why we're not continuing to build out these uh these facilities.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's it's it's been, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 4>the most reliable sources of clean energy we've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think back of the day, when are

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<v Speaker 2>the protests against it? That was a mistake, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people living in the moment. But yeah, I agree. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that we should just go, hey, build a

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear actor. What could go wrong? There's got to be

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<v Speaker 2>over sight, but I think the regulatory Look, it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>take thirty years to get one online.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, don't have that. I mean we don't, but

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<v Speaker 4>also I shouldn't. It doesn't take that much time anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, we know how to do this, So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they're coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>With these smaller uh you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Plants and these modulars to whatever they're called, and and

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's real benefit to those, but that still

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<v Speaker 4>takes a while. So you know, the point is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you either have a moratorm on going back to the

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<v Speaker 4>data center. You either have a moratorium and say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we're not going to build them here, even

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<v Speaker 4>though you have to build them here because they're they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be connected to the grid, or you say

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<v Speaker 4>we're building them here, but here are the rules, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're simple. The rules are the data center in big tech,

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<v Speaker 4>they pay for everything. They pay for the water, they

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<v Speaker 4>pay for the electricity, and they pay for the remediation

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<v Speaker 4>and no NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'll make their money back for sure. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder you know. I also the one to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where we make it so onerous that they don't do

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<v Speaker 2>business in Ohio. So we got to, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to bring these companies in. We need them,

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<v Speaker 2>but we certainly have to set up some rules just

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that their abuse is the water. One

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<v Speaker 2>I think is going to be interesting. That's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting fight. We'll save that for later. A out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Congress and Greg Land's been jumping on the

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<v Speaker 2>show this morning. Greg always appreciate the insight. Thanks again,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks take care. Hell yeah, disagree with a couple of things,

0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.120
<v Speaker 2>agree with a couple others. We've got to move forward

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<v Speaker 2>on data centers, but you do just some balance in there.

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<v Speaker 2>The Iran issue is God only knows what's happening there.

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<v Speaker 2>But relative to TSA workers, DHS funding and the role

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<v Speaker 2>of ICE agents, this whole thing. One side screams about

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<v Speaker 2>illegals voting, which isn't happening. The other side screams about

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<v Speaker 2>voter suppression, which I don't think is happening all about

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<v Speaker 2>it's listen, at some point, it's so hard you got

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<v Speaker 2>to get an idea and like, listen, man, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>grown adult. It's a life is a pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a I had to drive to Detroit to get

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<v Speaker 2>global entry so we could go on vacation. So don't

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<v Speaker 2>tell me the government it's like, oh, it's so hard

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<v Speaker 2>for people to just really, isn't It's just it's a

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<v Speaker 2>pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what government does. We'll get a news updated and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some reaction to this. But also remember when the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice mayor Jan michelleman Kearney wanted to pay criminals not

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<v Speaker 2>to criminal. I want to pay you not your criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to pay you not to criminal. Does it work. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some interesting news out of Chicago today. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>share it with you next Scott's Loan Monday morning. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to at seven hundred WLW Clody here, seven hundred WLW

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to it on this Monday morning. Good to see

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<v Speaker 2>our buddy Tom Brenneman filling in today for Steve Hawkins.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wonderful, absolutely wonderful. Getting ready for opening day twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six on Thursday at the Holy Girl Banks. Here

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<v Speaker 2>we go, so here we go. You heard Brian Combs

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<v Speaker 2>mention it shooting's up sixty percent in Cincinnati year over

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<v Speaker 2>year and four more now, four more over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>including one homicide. Let's go back to a plan here,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was introduced in twenty twenty four and it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really get funded the two hundred and seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to advance peace. It has been rejuvenated. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if they're going to vote on it anytime

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<v Speaker 2>soon and what the future is. But the idea is

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<v Speaker 2>presented by Vice Mayor Lemon Michelle Kearney, who wants to

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<v Speaker 2>essentially pay criminals not to criminal And there's a couple

0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.600
<v Speaker 2>of models that are out there that the experts say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know here's the thing. We get this money we

0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.960
<v Speaker 2>give them, We give them cash. Like for example, Advance

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<v Speaker 2>Peace enrolls people who have committed gun crimes in an

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen month Peacemaker fellowship, and the idea is active shooters

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<v Speaker 2>are touched by street outreach mentorship relationships with those directly

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<v Speaker 2>involved include of those who pull the trigger, and allegedly

0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:07.240
<v Speaker 2>in other cities this is working so advanced pieces that

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<v Speaker 2>it pays the triggermen to change. But Peacekeepers, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a plan in Chicago, puts community members around the triggermen

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<v Speaker 2>to stop it before it happens. So one rewards essentially

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.720
<v Speaker 2>past criminal behavior. The other deploys messengers proactively. Is what

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<v Speaker 2>they say, and it's you know again. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a nuance between the two programs really, because ultimately, what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing is, hey, listen, you're somebody you want to

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<v Speaker 2>turn your life around. Sure, well here's some money, so

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you can get your money, but you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>do to things you used to to get that money,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can influence other people. I mean, in

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect world to be utopia, it sounds grand, but

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<v Speaker 2>we don't live in a perfect world. I'm more of

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<v Speaker 2>a pragmatist I'm sure you might be quite the pragmatist

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I don't know, but we do have some

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<v Speaker 2>data out relative to the Chicago Plan. Peacekeepers, much like

0:20:55.160 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Advanced Peace Chicago, spent a billion dollars a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>with a bet on community violence intervention the CBI programs

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<v Speaker 2>they called it, over the last ten years, the last decade,

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<v Speaker 2>and that program some of those programs. Part of this

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<v Speaker 2>pays former and sometimes current gang bangers to mediate conflicts

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent shooting. So the idea is, hey, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are in the gang, you're in the streets right now, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're affiliated. So what we want you to do is,

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<v Speaker 2>here's some money. It's known you are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a mediator here because you can essentially walk in the

0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.919
<v Speaker 2>shoes of that people are doing this right and you

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 2>can prevent them from shooting. So Peacekeepers pays these participants

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.680
<v Speaker 2>up to one hundred and fifty dollars one hundred and

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.919
<v Speaker 2>fifty bucks a day to wear neon vests, kind of

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.920
<v Speaker 2>like you know, the street team down on Fountain Square,

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.879
<v Speaker 2>except not cleaning up you know, physical trash, clean up

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:53.680
<v Speaker 2>human trash, I guess. But anyway, we're in the invest

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 2>they worked the hotspots, and so the Free Press did

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.880
<v Speaker 2>an investigation and they found twenty eight or as peacekeepers

0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.679
<v Speaker 2>since January twenty twenty three, and that would include murder,

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>drug trafficking, and weapons chargers. One peacekeeper has this picture

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 2>with Governor Pritzker of Illinois and then after that picture

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:17.080
<v Speaker 2>participated in a smash and grab robbery about six days

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 2>later that killed a man whose baby was born the

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 2>next day. They also have found, because of the massive

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:27.920
<v Speaker 2>billion dollars in funding for this thing, that some of

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the funds went towards vodka, taco trucks, Apple Star purchases,

0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and a whole bunch of other waste. So again, every

0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:39.639
<v Speaker 2>time you go, hey, listen, we're gonna here's this money,

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.680
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna give some of this money to this

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:43.919
<v Speaker 2>this group, or we're going to turn it over to

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.000
<v Speaker 2>these individuals here, because they're going to take that money

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.679
<v Speaker 2>and disperse it. And when you hear politicians say that,

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 2>andy go, okay, here's a million dollars. Let's say not

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.879
<v Speaker 2>a billion, but a million. So out of that million,

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:56.919
<v Speaker 2>here saying well, we got also we're going to give

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand to this group. Seventy five thousand, this

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 2>group two hundred thousand's going to go to this group,

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you know. So the community gets on board, and what

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 2>happens is they just look at that and go, you

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.919
<v Speaker 2>and I pay for it. But they know the money's

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna get wasted. And we've seen this with FEMA, We've

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 2>seen this a bunch of other things. We just know

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 2>that it's graft. In order to keep vocal members of

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 2>the community engaged, we have to pay them off. And

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 2>so anytime you hear that, well, we've got we've got

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 2>to fund these other program It's just a kickback, is

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 2>what it is. It's a kickback. And so in this case,

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Chicago tries if they spend a billion dollars over ten

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 2>years and now we're still talking about violence intervention vention

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 2>here in Cincinnati, are we about to write the same

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 2>check with the same results. I think that's the question.

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 2>That's a question I have. There's no serious accountability structure.

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 2>One alderman in Chicago called it a scam and a

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 2>revolving door. There's I forget the podcaster, but somebody got

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 2>two hundred thousand dollars in sub grants. What does a

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 2>podcast have to do with stopping shootings. Also this person

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 2>as they use the money to become a clothing influencer. Great, awesome,

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 2>that's what we need. Awesome. And so as we always

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 2>demand line item accountability, you feel that anytime you do

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>these programs, you just kind of wink wink, nudge, nudge,

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 2>and you go with the flow. Maybe like back in

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the day, you know, he got a grease, so well,

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 2>we got to pay the mob off a little bit

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>for protection. Same kind of thing. It's a different kind

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>of mob. It's a different kind of mob. The disturbing

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 2>part is you had almost thirty people arrested in the

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 2>last three years on murder, battery, gun chargers, drugs, had said,

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 2>and one person who was part of this program getting

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 2>money was arrested twice in ten days. One of the

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>other studies he did too, was they got a bunch

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.199
<v Speaker 2>of folks together candidly and they said, okay, who's in

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 2>this who's here just for the money? In about forty

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 2>percent of the crowd raise their hand to go show you, hey, listen,

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna give me money with little accountability. I'm gonna

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>do that because you are at the heart, you're you're

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>engaging criminal behavior. So you're willing to have no moral

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>obligate whatsoever, no obligation to society. It's about you. And

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry when you take someone like that, with those

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of ethos and put them in a situation where, Okay,

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 2>we're going to pay you to be nice, it's not

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 2>going to work out largely. And I get it. You know,

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you need street credibility to reach people. The cops can't,

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the people who intervene can't. But you're you know, and

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 2>you're paying people for being gang members. That's actually what

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 2>you're doing. And so I don't know you start with kids,

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 2>but again, the lure of the street is so pervasive

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.439
<v Speaker 2>that I don't think you can get through this.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 2>We have our own history of community police tension and

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 2>downtown safety concerns, and we know all about that Riverfront

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 2>live shooting. It's just that the problem I think that

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 2>doesn't pass the sniff tests as a pragmatist is the

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>unaccountable cash payments to high risk individuals. And to me,

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 2>it feels just like a political gesture. Well, the idea is, well,

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 2>we have to do something. We've tried everything. We need

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 2>tougher gun laws, Okay, we've had tougher gun laws for years.

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 2>It's really not moving to the el nation. With all

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 2>the weapons that we have, ninety nine plus percent in

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the hands of legitimate people who don't do these things

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 2>with them, it doesn't make a lot of sense. And

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to be able to change the Constitution.

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 2>The Second Amendment's not going anywhere anytime soon. So I

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know what overstriight site structure Cincinnati would put in

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>place that Chicago didn't, because I think, you know, if

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>there's a pot of money there that the government wants

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>is to hand out, there's gonna be people lined up,

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and not only that, a number of the people who

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 2>are lined up have absolutely no problems taking it with

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 2>producing zero result. You know, paying game members not to

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>shoot each other sounds compassionate until they spend the money

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>on vodka and you know, go smash and grab a

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, the protest store at the mall. You know,

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 2>if you look at the receipts of Chicago, that's really

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 2>not that's really not good. Hey look at Chicago, and

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, at anytime you do this at cherry Pick,

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna look at the cities wh are Yeah, yeah,

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>it's worked here, that's worked there. Well, okay, that's good,

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 2>but tell me where it didn't work, Because you're trying

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 2>to tell me something. I don't know the successes. I

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 2>want to know the failures and did you learn from

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the failures? Clearly? Not clearly? Not so anyway, that's what's happening.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of interesting and at some point

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 2>it'll be reintroduced. We did this in twenty twenty three.

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>They wanted two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. Council

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 2>voted for it, eventually got shot down, and it's back

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>on the table again this year, or at least it

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>was last year and end of this year, I would sume,

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 2>because you know, when you think there's utopia out there

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 2>and we can live in a perfect world where there's

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>no wars, there's no fighting, everyone loves each other, I

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>got news fair. The world doesn't love on a run,

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't run on love. God bless you for going to

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the world pi idoe ey'd stary eyed thinking you can

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>change it. There are people out there who are not

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>going to change. There are people out there simply don't

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>care about you, but they will take your money with

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>a zero accountability that they will do. And it happens

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>all the time, all the time. News on the way

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 2>in about nine minutes here on the Big One, seven

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 2>hundred WW Opening Day coming up Thursday live, the Holy

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Girl Banks will see you down for that. Can't wait

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>hopefully the weather and it looks like we got a

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>little window on Thursday. It's still too early, I mean

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>these you know the opening Day fourcast. Look it's Monday, man,

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Thursday's a long way away, a long way away. Let

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>me know on how we looking on Wednesday. But I'm

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>being optimistic as I usually am, saying there's that window,

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, we see that where like rains overnight and

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 2>then clears up and then the game goes off and

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>then later in the night there's more rain coming in.

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>But right now it's looking, it's looking if it looks

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>like it's a go for Reds Baseball on Thursday. Let's

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 2>just bottom line it for you. Slooney at five, one, three, seven, four,

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 2>nine seven the Big One to talk back on the

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio app. The Reds are not getting out a good

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>year on scathed. However, later in the show, look at

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 2>other than thirty five, we'll do our weekly update with

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Jeff gar from Lockdown Reds. It's the car show, and

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk largely about the Reds pitching situation

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>ahead of opening day because we got problems. We were

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 2>fat and happy just about a week ago, and then

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it's blister city, all right. We

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>keep losing guys. You know, Brady Singer was flagged for

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>blister back on March eighteenth, but things look good from

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 2>that point forward. Of course, you've got Hunter Green out

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 2>till at least July because of the bone chips. You

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 2>have Caleb Ferguson who's coming out of the bullpen. He

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>starts a season on the IL. He's got an MRI

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>scheduled for later this week actually, I think what maybe Wednesday,

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 2>And so we're kind of a little decimated right now.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>And on top of it, yesterday, Nicolodolo exits his final

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>spring spring training start with a blister on his left

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 2>index finger, and this has been a big issue for

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>him for his career. He missed the what over three

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 2>weeks last August with the same problem. And I know

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 2>that it's been extremely hot in Arizona. If you haven't

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 2>been following it closely, they have moved. They had moved

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>a number of games outside of the hot hours because

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>it was one hundred and five degrees out there was crazy,

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and I guess if you're going to develop a blister,

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be when it's that hot out. But

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you got Dolo, you got Singer, you got green out.

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Now we had all this pitching, and all of a sudden,

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>now it's looking a little bit thinner. It doesn't mean

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that these guys can't step up on Opening Day, and

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>especially with the bats you have McLean and Ellie and Freedom.

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>If these guys can keep hitting the ball, it's going

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>to solve a lot of problems for sure. So anyway,

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Jeff car eleven thirty five will get into that, and

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>of course more on opening day itself. Here on the

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Home of the Red, seven hundred w WT Cincinnati. You

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>want to be an American idiot, Planty here seven hundred wws.

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>You parked the legally, you pay and guess what you

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>still got, Rob. We have a parking scam going on

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>in America right now. On that is attorney Carry Lutz,

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>who's investigator All Luso wrote a book about it.

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Carry, how are you doing great?

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 6>And appreciate you helping to get the word out on this.

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 6>It is a multi billion dollar scam that they soak

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 6>us for five fifty dollars at a time. You don't

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 6>even realize that you're being taken.

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Many of the signs throughout the country, signs that say

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 3>scan here to pay aren't legal. They aren't legal. They

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 3>can't be writing tickets based on these signs. Signs in America,

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 3>street signs are strictly governed by the NUTCD, the law

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 3>that you have been living by your whole life. You

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 3>never even heard about it.

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 6>It's the manual on uniform and emphasize uniform traffic control devices.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 6>Just substitute signs for traffic control devices. A sign is

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 6>a traffic control device if and only if it conforms

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 6>to federal standards. Every state has adopted this law and

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 6>they can't write a ticket, yet they do every single

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 6>day of the week if the sign doesn't conform.

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 3>And you will all know the signs you.

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Just assume because they're the QR codes on them. Now,

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>so carry out its first. As far as Cincinnati goes,

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>we know cities across the country they've they've kind of

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>privatized parking enforcement to tech companies basically, and you mentioned

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the signage, clear signage, lawful notice. There's app based contracts,

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>there's but they also harvest your data. There's the penalty.

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Systems will confuse rather than form. So it's kind of

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>like this constitutional grazone. Now, I will say that Cincinnati

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>has not yet fully outsourced our parking enforcement the way

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>places like well Chicago or Pittsburgh have. So we hate

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the Cubs and we hite the Bucks. So there you go.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Enforcement is run by the by the Parking Division of Cincinnati. Now,

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>they they push the pay by Phone app, but that's

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>a private third party platform that's operating a bunch of cities.

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>And they also have since the since the easy park

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 2>app for Ebeart payment, which I use. But drivers here

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 2>still interact with private apps to pay meters. It's not

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 2>as bad as other cities, but it feels like a

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 2>slippery slop like it might be heading that way.

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 6>It's getting there. When a city adopts an app, they

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 6>find that their revenues from parking, both fees and violations

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 6>go up forty to one hundred and sixty percent just

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 6>from the apps. And one other thing about the app.

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 6>You know, and I know there are millions of miners

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 6>driving the nation's highways. They get their licenses, some as

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 6>early as fifteen. I think in a least of fourteen

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 6>and up to seventeen.

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 3>You're a minor. You can't enter into contracts. That's why a.

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 6>Bank will not loan a child money. And the when

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 6>you actually download the app and click I accept, you

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 6>are saying.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I wave my right to trial by jury, I wave

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 3>my right.

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 6>To enter into a class action. I consent to have

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 6>my data shared with God knows how many different partners

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 6>that these apps are. I mean it's a question of

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 6>who don't they share your data with park Mobile, you

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 6>can sent to have your data stored in foreign countries.

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 6>And for miners, they're getting the geolocation, the exact location

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.240
<v Speaker 6>of a minor when they pay for the parking.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 3>And this is just unconscionable. It's unacceptable.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 6>They endanger miners potentially, but they shouldn't be entering into

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 6>contract and many states now are passing laws requiring parental

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 6>consent before the minor is allowed to even utilize an

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 6>app or a game on the platform. I've written takedown

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 6>notices to Google App Store and Apple App Store saying

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 6>this thing is rated for four years and up, which

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 6>means anybody can use it, and yet you're allowing miners

0:34:58.480 --> 0:34:59.919
<v Speaker 6>to consent to sharing data.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 3>It's illegal, out and out.

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 6>I've also sent complaints to the FTC, the Florida Attorney General,

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 6>the Texas Attorney General, a number of others, the SEC

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 6>because they're issuing bonds backed by parking.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Revenues that are illegally illegal revenue streets.

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 2>So when you said the signs themselves are are legal,

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like the QR code on the signs, first of all,

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 2>are those ones that are on public streets? What about

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>parking lots or city owned parking lots, and you mentioned

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>they can't write a citation for that.

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Why isn't okay?

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 6>So when you have a city owned lot or a

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 6>private parking facility, different rules apply. But even the city

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 6>owned lot really needs to comply to some extent with

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 6>the federal guidelines. So but on street parking, that's what

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 6>we're talking about here. But if a parking lot connects

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 6>to a street and part of it is a ivate road, effectively,

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 6>then the standards apply. The point is they should be

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 6>using those standards for any government owned parking facilities.

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Anywhere.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean, for instance, the sign is supposed to be

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 6>seven feet high. I wish I had a dollar for

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 6>every sign that was six and a half or five

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 6>feet high. It's supposed to face oncoming traffic. How many

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 6>signs have you seen that are mounted parallel to the street.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 6>Unacceptable because the whole point of it is uniformity, so

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 6>that if you're in Alaska or you're in Key West,

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 6>you can get on the highway, you can see a sign.

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 6>You don't have to think about it, you know exactly

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 6>what it means. Also to stop somebody from say Portlandia

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 6>or Seattle, they decide that they don't like the system,

0:36:56.200 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 6>and they want stop signs to be green and instead

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 6>of red, and they want people to stop on green

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.479
<v Speaker 6>lights and go on red lights.

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Does that technicalivy negate? The law?

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 6>The enforcement law, absolutely, because if the sign's defective, that

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 6>is your due process, your notice of the law.

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 3>You can't be expected to know a law if.

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 6>You haven't gotten notice to obeyl a law, and so

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 6>anything that comes from that. If the sign is illegal,

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 6>the tickets they're legal, all right.

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati uses we have the Cincinnati Easy Park app. But

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>also there's pay by phone which is a third party

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 2>app and it's in well over a thousand cities. Well,

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>who owns the data collected When a Cincinnati driver or

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 2>a suburban driver, out of time driver goes in parks

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 2>in Cincinnati use that app, what can they do with it?

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 3>That's a great question.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 6>Now, really effectively, this is a big tech solution for

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 6>a simple problem. So pretty much the app owns the data.

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 6>This city might be able to obtain the data or

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.879
<v Speaker 6>certain portions of it, but the app owns the data.

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 3>They own your data.

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 6>And look in the remember Ababacare, they said, if you

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 6>don't get health insurance.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Then we're going to find you.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 6>And the Supreme Court said that's okay, because you do

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 6>have a choice. But for instance, in the town upon Beach,

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 6>the President's home away from DC, the winter White House

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 6>in that town, they have done away with all other

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:41.320
<v Speaker 6>forms of payment.

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 3>So, in other words, if.

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 6>You want to park in Palm Beach, you have to

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 6>use the app, and that therefore they're forcing you into

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 6>a private contract.

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's what all of them are doing.

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 6>They all want you to use the app because they

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 6>don't want to collect meters, they don't want pay stations,

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 6>they want you to use the app, and they force

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:08.919
<v Speaker 6>you into a private contract that's called coerced contracting compulsory contracting,

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 6>and then it's with a third party, so you have

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 6>to pay to pay to park sure because they charge

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 6>you a convenience fee. I don't know who it's convenient for,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 6>whether it's.

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 3>For them or for you.

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 6>But look, it's all on life site, parkscam dot com.

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 6>The book is there, and I think that you know,

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 6>it's been allowed to fester for too long. Originally parking

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 6>leaders served a valid purpose, and that was they didn't

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 6>want people parking in front of merchants all that long.

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they went to squat and there basically treated like

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 2>a parking lot because they want to They want to

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 2>turn traffic over so people can spend money. Start Sure,

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's now it's turning to well, I think I

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 2>think Chicago is a great example. They've been knew this

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>for a long long time and that's considered by many

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>people the disaster. But uh, that is like how it

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:58.959
<v Speaker 2>gets sold to councils. And you know, we're always looking

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 2>for money right the city since naw, we need money.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 2>We sold our railroad so we could fix the roads

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>here that've been ill repaired for twenty plus years. This

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 2>feels like something they go, wow, okay, well can we

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 2>make some money off this thing? Much money, much like

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Ohio did before they passed along these law which which

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 2>outlawed these speed cameras, and so you know you'd go through, Yeah,

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>you get this ticket in the mail. I didn't even

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>always drive in the car, and you know, paying these

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>exorbitant fees and you couldn't fight it because there's some

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 2>out of state po box and that got struck down

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>in Ohio smartly enough. This sounds like it's like the

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 2>next incarnation of that.

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping it will be.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 6>I've sued the six municipalities. I have sued three parking

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 6>apps in the US District Court in in South Florida,

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 6>and they're going.

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 3>To have to account for it.

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 6>I've also put in some complaints to the Florida Department

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 6>of Transportation. They've been very upset about street art that

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 6>it's not a traffic control device, it's illegal, and it's

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 6>an opinion said all illegal traffic control devices need to

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 6>be immediately removed because they're a danger to the road.

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 6>And yet these parking signs are abundant and the towns,

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 6>the cities view them as free money, but in the

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 6>end they.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Really injure merchants.

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 6>Downtowns were ruined by parking, and that's why people started

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 6>going to malls. And the more they this is just

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 6>an extractive system. They provide you no value, all right,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 6>no value whatsoever for parking. We own the curves, right,

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 6>the public owns the streets, so they're charging you.

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, I get the.

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 6>Fact you need turnover. You don't want somebody hogging all

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 6>the all the retail, right, yeah, yeah, exactly. And private

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 6>parking that's a private matter between you and.

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 3>The owner of the garage.

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 6>But when they use an app, and you can't even

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 6>park in the facility unless you use the app, all right,

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 6>so you have a choice. So I won't park there.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 6>But for children getting their data shared and basically the

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 6>app is a data harvesting tool. Would you believe that

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 6>the app actually creates or has the ability to create

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 6>a behavioral profile of the user. They know when you

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 6>go to work, they know whenever you park, and then

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 6>that picks up patterns and then they market to you

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 6>these app companies. I get monthly emails from park Mobile

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:45.720
<v Speaker 6>saying join the Private Park, Mobile club and YouTube.

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 3>Can you know?

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 6>It does the thing that every app should do, which is,

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 6>if you're running late, you should have the ability to

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:55.879
<v Speaker 6>automatically extend time.

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 3>So their private club app does that.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 6>They don't charge convenience fees, but they're regular app that

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 6>the general public downloads doesn't automatically spend time. So if

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 6>they could do it for the people paying, why can't

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 6>they do it for the people who are who are

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 6>just casually.

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Carry lots at parkscam dot com and not bad yet

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Here in Cincinnati, we're talking about the pay by phone

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 2>app since the easy park is meter payment here in

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the city has that and everything's enforced by the Parking Division,

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>but the pay by phone app is being used in

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 2>some lots in other areas, and it's kind of like

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Mission Creep. And the idea here is you are forced

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>to enter a third party contract outside the scope of Cincinnati,

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 2>much like we did with speed cameras, where even if

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>you follow the signs and think you parked legally, you

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 2>can still get a ticket. How does that actually happen

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 2>though it sign says I can park here at park,

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I pay and I still get a ticket. What's going on?

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 6>Well, you think the sign says that, and a lot

0:43:55.840 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 6>of tickets are are actually thrown out when people take time,

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 6>when you take the time to actually challenge them, and

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 6>the parking enforcement officer what we used to affectionately called

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 6>meter maids.

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 3>They don't know the law generally any.

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 6>Better than you do. All they do is scan your plate.

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 6>The thing says violation, create ticket, and that's what they do.

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 6>It's more and more an automated process. They even have

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 6>cameras that clock you when you come in and then

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 6>clock you when you leave, and if you stay two

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 6>minutes over you get a violation. So all of it

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 6>is just it's just gotten to the point where it's

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 6>just totally extracted. It just provides no value and it

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 6>needs to stop.

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that there's like a constancial gray zone that

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 2>no regular or wants to claim jurisdiction at the federal

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>state are here in cincinn at the local level. So

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>how does that? What's the gray zone? And who should

0:44:58.520 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>be mine in the store? Why aren't they?

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 6>Well, it's every so the NUTCD that's the bible of

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 6>the road. It's twelve hundred thick pages of every sign,

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:16.280
<v Speaker 6>speed limits, of traffic lights. You name it, markings on curbs,

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 6>et cetera. And in it every state has had to

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 6>adopt it. They passed laws generally, and so basically in Florida,

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 6>the Florida Department of Transportation is responsible to see that

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 6>this thing is carried out. And they have the ability

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 6>as well as the FEDS to say, you're not complying

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 6>with the manual, you're losing highway funds. And that's what

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 6>Florida is doing with the street art, getting the cities

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 6>to remove the street art, saying this is a traffic

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 6>control device and it doesn't comply and you're losing your money.

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 6>And it's millions of dollars a city, like for Ludderdale.

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 6>So every every state has the ability to actually implement

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 6>this and force these cities to comply with the law.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they're making money off it. That's the whole

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 2>driver this thing, which asked the begs of question. More

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and more cities each day must be privatizing the parking

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 2>apps and things like that because they're making money.

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.959
<v Speaker 6>Oh, of course, there was an area in a city

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 6>here called Riviera Beach, Singer Island, very plush, and they

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 6>implemented a parking system in a lot that forever had

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 6>been free and the prices are outrageous. This is what

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<v Speaker 6>started me off on the whole thing. And they figured

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 6>they could bring in a couple million dollars a year. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>except they privatized the entire system where city employees don't

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 6>even write the tickets. It's the private employees write the

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 6>ticket and they and then the judge, jury and executioner.

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<v Speaker 6>They actually they actually there's an admunication portal and you

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 6>basically if you want to challenge the ticket, you go

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 6>to this site and then you have to struggle to

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:18.399
<v Speaker 6>find the link that says challenge this ticket, and then

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 6>they decide whether or not you have a valid plane,

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 6>and then they want to charge you for an arbitrator

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<v Speaker 6>if you don't agree with their decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it sounds almost exactly like the speed

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<v Speaker 2>camera thing we had here. It's a profit center. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not about public right away and enforcement. He's carry lots

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<v Speaker 2>for more on this. It's parkscam dot com, America's great

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<v Speaker 2>parking scam. Parkscam dot com carry lots. Thanks for the time,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it, Hey anytime.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the interesting part, but again, you know sinc. Now,

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 2>we're not yet fully outsourcing this. We do have the

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 2>since the easy park app, which I think as far

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 2>as I can tell some about the city, But they

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 2>do push the pay by phone app, which is a

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>private third party platform like he's talking about here. So

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 2>it's a mission creep for Warners Forum especially. I mean,

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you're going to a Reds game in Pittsburgh or Chicago

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 2>or other cities, they have this there. So just FYI

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Scott's Loan Show seven hundred ww. Everyone needs help every

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.799
<v Speaker 2>now and then, and she's here to help us get

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 2>our heads right. This is Mental Health Monday with mental

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 2>health expert Julie Hattershire. Yeah, so autism diagnosis an all

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 2>time high. Understanding wise, we're still catching up. So what

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<v Speaker 2>do you do when a child has a melt down

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 2>in a grocery store? How do you talk to a

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 2>nonverbal person? What are we getting wrong about autism? I

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<v Speaker 2>bring this up because we have had an incredible number

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 2>of deaths involving autistic children in this case, we had

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<v Speaker 2>just another one last weekend. As a matter of fact,

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>they're like nine where they walk into a pond. We

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.880
<v Speaker 2>had one in Deerfield Township, a four year old drowning,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there's something about water that attracts autistic children.

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<v Speaker 2>Not much we can do about that other then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>just keeping an eye out if you have a retention

0:48:57.840 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 2>pond your house or your neighborhood or whatever it is.

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 2>But you've got to really be careful for some of

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.799
<v Speaker 2>the young men in Westchester last summer who passed away.

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 2>But it brings autism back in the light. We certainly

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of time talking about people are where

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 2>it exists. It's a real thing, but you just wonder

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>how many folks actually understand what it is. And on

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<v Speaker 2>that as our licensed mental health therapist of course, Julie

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<v Speaker 2>Hattershare on the show on seven hundred WW for mental

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<v Speaker 2>health money.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, good morning, how are you.

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine. These are horrible stories to read about when

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<v Speaker 2>you have young people who are dying. I mean kids

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<v Speaker 2>who are dying are autistic and they wander off and

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>go off the reservation. I think they call it eloping.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the a formal term when they do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it is horrifying.

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 3>It truly is.

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<v Speaker 5>And there is a higher prevalence of it in the

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:48.320
<v Speaker 5>autistic child community than in the non autistic child community.

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<v Speaker 5>All children are attracted to water, but autistic children tend

0:49:53.640 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 5>to drown more frequently than non autistic children do. It

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 5>is called a open yeah, and they run away, they leave,

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 5>They wander off for various reasons. And one of the

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 5>things that's important if you're a caregiver of someone who's

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 5>autistic to understand is what they may be trying to

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.840
<v Speaker 5>do by leaving. They're not just wandering for no reason.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a need they're trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To meet or want.

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 5>They're trying to fill, something they're trying to escape from,

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<v Speaker 5>So understanding the why can be really important. But yeah,

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 5>that was a terrible case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the girl, she was nine years older, name was

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny dimm in Florence, and this happened just last week.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had about three thousand people looking for at

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<v Speaker 2>any one time when she lost and then they found

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.560
<v Speaker 2>her in a pond. And man, we've got ponds all

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:44.760
<v Speaker 2>over so we've got, you know, the ninth one passing

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>away this time last year at eight dead, six from drowning.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just something about that attracts them to the water.

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<v Speaker 2>The child, the four year old in Deerfield Township. He

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<v Speaker 2>was not autistic, as I just saw so that. But again,

0:50:57.560 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, kids near water very very dangerous, specially autistic kids,

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 2>or something about the water that attracts them, And I

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 2>think it just goes to show you how little we

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 2>understand still despite awareness. I've seen autism stickers, I volunteer

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 2>for autism events, and I understand the spectrum. But I

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 2>think outside, unless there's someone you know who's directly impacted

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 2>or suffers from autism, we kind of go, yeah, autism,

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 2>but we don't know what it all means. Because now

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>one in thirty six kids are diagnosed with this, and

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 2>this seems to me to be it's getting worse, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not better, despite all the attention paid to it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you could say it's getting worse. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think there's some disagreement in the autistic community about whether

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 5>it's getting worse or whether the diagnosis is becoming much

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<v Speaker 5>more specific. So, you know, things that we used to

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 5>not understand as being part of the autistic spectrum maybe

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 5>are now part of the autistic spectrum. So children and adults,

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 5>because one in forty five adults is diagnosed with autism,

0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 5>Children and adults who might not have previously been diagnosed

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 5>because we didn't understand the whole range of symptoms that

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.800
<v Speaker 5>go into this spectrum. Now is that continues to expand.

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 5>More and more people are finding themselves on the spectrum

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 5>as a result of that. So it may be that

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:15.359
<v Speaker 5>it's becoming more prevalent. It may also be that our

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 5>diagnostic criteria and our diagnostic skills are getting more sophisticated

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 5>and we're able to catch more people who find themselves

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:23.760
<v Speaker 5>on the spectrum.

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's usually the case. It gets more granular and

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 2>therefore identifying it more. And so what you though, they're

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 2>here from people who are older. Usually that not always,

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 2>but usually older folks are like, well, back in my day,

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 2>we never had this. It's all made up because your

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 2>kid is acting the full and now we claim it's

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 2>a it's a disease and disorder and not an issue

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.479
<v Speaker 2>of punishment and accountability, which could be further from the truth.

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:44.800
<v Speaker 2>But that I think that still exists.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, it is definitely a neurodivergence. Is it is

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 5>a brain difference, which is what neurodivergence means, like ADHD is,

0:52:56.200 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 5>like dyslexia is like this calculia is I call dyslexia

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:02.360
<v Speaker 5>for numbers and that's.

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<v Speaker 3>What I have.

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 5>I had this calculia. But it's these differences in the

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.320
<v Speaker 5>way our brains work, and the more sophisticated or diagnostic

0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 5>systems have become functional in oriyes, for example, the more

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 5>we're able to see the way people's brains operate differently

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:23.800
<v Speaker 5>under different circumstances, and so we're finding more understanding and

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 5>more nuanced understanding of what we used to just think

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 5>of as the kids in the slow class, for example,

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:33.399
<v Speaker 5>or the kids who weren't school appropriate so they were

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:36.399
<v Speaker 5>homeschooled or kept at home. And in the early days,

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 5>children with autism were often institutionalized because their behaviors were

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 5>so problematic it was difficult for families and parents to

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 5>take care of them, and so it Yes, older people

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 5>take a look at it and say, we didn't have

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:53.359
<v Speaker 5>that in my day, and answers, well, we did, absolutely

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 5>you did. It's just that they didn't mainstream into society

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 5>in the same way that we have been made streaming

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 5>children with learning disabilities and developmental disabilities for the last

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 5>two or three decades.

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 2>At least, we just got the hell bait of us.

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Back then, they hitch a harder right to smack.

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<v Speaker 3>That it is.

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's the way it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Children with ADHD misunderstood, punished, called lazy, called stupid. Now

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 5>we understand their brains operate differently, and we need to

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:29.839
<v Speaker 5>approach them differently. Autism is similar. Children with autism where

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 5>the weird kid, the quirky kid, the kid who went

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 5>to the special school. Now often we understand more about it,

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 5>and we can help them learn in the way that

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:41.720
<v Speaker 5>best suits them and help them maximize their potential, whatever

0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 5>that might be, whether that's really high or somewhat lower

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 5>in need of support. Still, we can help children and

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.720
<v Speaker 5>adults live better lives and maximize their potentially.

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I still do have the numbers dyslexia, for example.

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, just calculia that I got the hell be it.

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Out of me for years. I'm really good at reading

0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 2>and but my verbal all those sins are off the charts.

0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:05.360
<v Speaker 2>And then the math was just terrible and I couldn't

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 2>do it. So I did not know that it was

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<v Speaker 2>a bonafide condition until today. Am I Todd the money

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 2>compensation a better parking spot? Can I get something for

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 2>this disability?

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 5>You're you're entitled to And I'm sorry from every math teacher.

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 2>You ever had, Yeah, yeah, used to shame you.

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 5>I think if that was true, because I got.

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did the math teaching I had.

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<v Speaker 5>For being like you, really bright in some areas and

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:32.360
<v Speaker 5>could not do my multiplication people when everybody else should.

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Rattle them to have a beer multiplication and I could

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 2>not memorize any of it.

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 5>I could not do them, could not do them.

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 2>My aunt bought me this, this device. It was like

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 2>a big I don't know, slider board, you know, and

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like kind of like the flash cards, and it

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 2>was a hard and you sit and do it by

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 2>yourself and go, okay, eight times eight. For some reason

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 2>this day like numbers like eight times six, nine times six.

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I still have to count of my fingers.

0:55:58.560 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't remember exactly.

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.279
<v Speaker 5>I have workarounds too. And you remember in math class

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 5>when they said you have to know this. You have

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 5>to know this because you're never going to walk around

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 5>with a calculator in your pocket. And now don't we

0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:10.800
<v Speaker 5>just walk around with calculators in our pockets.

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I always believe in technology. I said to listen, you

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:14.920
<v Speaker 2>know what, if enough of us, if none of us

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 2>get fat enough, they'll come up with a pill which

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 2>just takes the weight off and look where we are,

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Look where we are, look where we are.

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 2>So, but back to autism, Julie, that's the thing is

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 2>we have this. You know, the spectrums really wide. We're

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 2>not quite true like my son experienced young ADHD and

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:31.239
<v Speaker 2>all that, and you kind of grow out of it.

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but you know, if you're you can do that.

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 2>But later in life our horses severe.

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:43.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, not necessarily. As you grow. Oftentimes if you're

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 5>if you're pretty well functioning, you can develop workarounds. Yes,

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 5>So for example, you and I didn't outgrow are just calculia.

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:53.400
<v Speaker 5>We just developed workarounds, including but not limited to a calculator.

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 5>But I can do math in my head pretty well

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:57.440
<v Speaker 5>because I've worked out a system that makes sense for me,

0:56:57.480 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 5>which is not the way I was taught. People who

0:56:59.880 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 5>are dyslexic, they don't outgrow dyslexia. They learn a system

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:06.439
<v Speaker 5>for looking at words and looking at sentences and making

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 5>sense of them. So as people grow into their autistic diagnosis,

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:15.399
<v Speaker 5>as they grow and change, their strengths may change, their

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 5>challenges may change. They may put themselves or find themselves

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:23.640
<v Speaker 5>in environments that work with their strengths and compensate for

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:26.680
<v Speaker 5>their challenges, or the opposite may be true. They may

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 5>find themselves in environments where it really doesn't work with

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:33.080
<v Speaker 5>their strengths and it really exacerbates their challenges and so

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 5>they appear less functional. Then they might be in a

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 5>different kind of environment. So it isn't necessarily the grow it.

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 5>It's that you can develop skill sets to work around

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 5>and you can often organize your environment so that it

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 5>benefits you more than is detrimental to you.

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're talking about autism with Julie Harrisher this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mental health money in the Scots Launch show. Tragically,

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 2>a nine year old girl died just last week. Another

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<v Speaker 2>autistic kid finding water and water is that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>calling for them and a lot of us still don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand what autism means. I think the most common example

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<v Speaker 2>is you're at the store, I don't know, you're at

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<v Speaker 2>your target and child screaming and have an absolute meltdown

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<v Speaker 2>and bystanders immediately assume bad parenting. So what is happening

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<v Speaker 2>neurologically at that moment? Also, as a innocent binder share stranger,

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<v Speaker 2>what should we do or not do when you witness something.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that, well, I think the first thing not to

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<v Speaker 5>do is shame the parents or the caregivers or look

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 5>askance at the child, because clearly the child is overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 5>Whenever any child has a meltdown, whether they're autistic or not,

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<v Speaker 5>their environment has outstripped their coping skills. That's what that

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 5>means is they are sensorially overloaded in their environment and

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:48.520
<v Speaker 5>what it's asking of them has outstripped their coping skills.

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<v Speaker 5>Autistic children, that happens more frequently and more easily than

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<v Speaker 5>neurotypical children of the same age. And so you may

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<v Speaker 5>see an autistic child who is old or than you

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<v Speaker 5>would expect a temper tantrum from. If you see a

0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:05.840
<v Speaker 5>two year old throwing a tantrum, you're kind of like, well,

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:08.000
<v Speaker 5>there too. If you see a twelve year old throwing

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<v Speaker 5>a tantrum, your first thought is why can't they behave

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<v Speaker 5>like a twelve year old. But for many autistic children,

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<v Speaker 5>an environment like target will weigh overstimulate them, and what

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 5>they have to do to manage that overstimulation outstrips their

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 5>coping skills at that moment in time, and they don't

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes have the ability to describe what's going on in

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<v Speaker 5>words which a neurotypical twelve year old would and so

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<v Speaker 5>they tell you in whatever way they need to tell

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<v Speaker 5>you that they have had enough, and that is essentially

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on. One of the hallmark characteristics of oxism

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<v Speaker 5>is they have a very difficult time with speech and

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<v Speaker 5>nonverbal communication. Not that they are not that many of

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:55.560
<v Speaker 5>them can't speak all those some can't, but understanding what

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 5>the words mean, the nonverbal cues that you need to

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<v Speaker 5>pick up on and that they need to pick up

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<v Speaker 5>on in communication communication is a challenge. And the more

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<v Speaker 5>overwhelmed and over stimulated they get, the more that becomes challenging.

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<v Speaker 5>So the higher there's stimulation level goes, the lower their

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<v Speaker 5>ability to describe what's going on goes, and the lower

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<v Speaker 5>their ability to seek relief in more what we might

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<v Speaker 5>consider age appropriate ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, Yeah, And it seems to me like the way

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<v Speaker 2>it's described, and I get it is you know someone

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<v Speaker 2>with ADHD, for example, and we all to some degree suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're sitting in roomy avig like I do,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm talking to you, but I can hear

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<v Speaker 2>somebody out in the hallway. I just walk. Somebody watch

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<v Speaker 2>past I've got I'm watching. I've got Fox News here,

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<v Speaker 2>They're CNN over there, I've got Sports Center over here.

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<v Speaker 2>The one light is flickering right now, but everything is

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<v Speaker 2>pushed up to eleven, like they're all competing for the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. So the thoughts in your head it's but

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a child, you have no way to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that, and so you get the sensory overload. It's site, sounds, smells,

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<v Speaker 2>all perceptions and if everything is pushed up as far

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<v Speaker 2>as it will go, it's all cumminated. You there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way to sort them. More people who can balance things

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<v Speaker 2>out and go okay, to focus on this, If the

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<v Speaker 2>more on the spectrum you are, the harder, that is exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And also if you're more on the spectrum, the more

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<v Speaker 5>sensitive you are to that. Often people with autism are

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<v Speaker 5>often more highly sensitive to sound and temperature and light

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<v Speaker 5>and plantation touch than those who are not on the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 5>So take a normal environment that might overstimulate a normal

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<v Speaker 5>neurotypical person someone with autism who is highly sensitive to

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<v Speaker 5>that anyway, it's off the charts stimulating. Then you factor

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<v Speaker 5>in the language challenges that often come along with that diagnosis,

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<v Speaker 5>and they can't talk about it, they can't tell you

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on, and they may not even have the

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<v Speaker 5>ability to make sense of it in their own head.

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<v Speaker 5>And so oftentimes what they do is they want to

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<v Speaker 5>get away. They have a meltdown, or they want to

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<v Speaker 5>get away, which is where the elopement comes in. They

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<v Speaker 5>frequently are trying to get away situations that are overstimulating

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<v Speaker 5>to them, that are frightening, too much, overwhelming, over stimulating, unfamiliar.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they're trying to get away anywhere. Sometimes they're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to get back to someplace that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is familiar to them.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to leave here and I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 5>someplace that is familiar to me. But they're not always

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily aware where that is. Water is a calming, soothing presence.

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<v Speaker 5>It's also pretty. I mean, sun light on water is

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<v Speaker 5>one of the prettiest yeah nights out there, so that

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<v Speaker 5>can be a draw. So it really is about overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 5>coping mechanisms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's part of our DNA. It's part mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Water is calming, it's relaxing. You take a bath, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>generally kids like to swim, and that explains maybe explains

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<v Speaker 2>why we have had nine deaths, including one last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Julie Hatter Share our license mouth health expert

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<v Speaker 2>about autism and and that and that tragedy kids are

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<v Speaker 2>loping and finding water and dying. It doesn't mean the

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<v Speaker 2>kids are dumb either, And I think that comes out

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<v Speaker 2>as well as like, well, you don't speak, you must

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<v Speaker 2>be You know, we used to call people who weren't

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<v Speaker 2>able to speak dumb. I mean that was literally what

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<v Speaker 2>we called them back in the long time ago anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>But now we're learning about more about this. So you

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<v Speaker 2>see this in public, you don't want to react, You

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to intervene. Is there something? I mean, when

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<v Speaker 2>a kid's having a tantrum, you just kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>do you do? Do you just let them finish it out?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you hug them? How do you deal with that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if you're the caregiver, I'm sure you have your

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<v Speaker 5>own skills and coping mechanisms for your own child or

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<v Speaker 5>the child you're taking care of. So I would hesitate

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<v Speaker 5>to prescribe anything for someone who's taking care of a

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<v Speaker 5>child with autism, because they probably know what to do.

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<v Speaker 5>But for those of us who are the bystanders. The

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<v Speaker 5>thing to do is just give them some peace, walk

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<v Speaker 5>on by, let the caregiver take care of it, don't intervene.

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<v Speaker 5>And for the please don't shame or scowl at or

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<v Speaker 5>mutter about the kid who can't control and the parent

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<v Speaker 5>who can't control the kid. They are out of control literally,

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<v Speaker 5>so they need to get regulated. They're so regulated to

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<v Speaker 5>that point in time, in our judgment, does not help

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<v Speaker 5>the situation, either for the child or the people with

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<v Speaker 5>the child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine the caregiver having to do that on a

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<v Speaker 2>daily basis, right, It's like, yeah, I get it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's the lot they're being allowed. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about your needs right now. And it's unfortunate because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're waiting to get on a plane,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, and waiting in a twenty hour line of TSA,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the child's gonna have a meltdown. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we kind of all got to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's where a competent adult is going to have

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<v Speaker 5>a meltdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I might have a melt out right right right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>She is at Hey, Julie at bconnected dot Care Practice

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<v Speaker 2>out of Clifton. If you any questions, concerns, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you have an idea for a future segment, let us know. Julie,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk next Monday. Have a great one. Thanks you too,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. We'll do news on the way in just

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<v Speaker 2>minutes here and if you're using a public parking app

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<v Speaker 2>you could be getting ripped off. It's not quite here

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<v Speaker 2>in Cincinnati, but it's coming just ahead. Seven hundred WW.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to be an America? Slowly?

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<v Speaker 3>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>This is seven hundred WLW, So rewinding a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll play it back. The last week Supreme Court of

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio did not act a judging Franklin Connie denied a

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<v Speaker 2>temporary restraining order and it all died on the vine.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the start of March Madness officially the start

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<v Speaker 2>of all the tournaments. THT beverages are banned in Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>bars and breweries, and Cincinnati's Fifty West and many other

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<v Speaker 2>businesses were left kind of holding the bag on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining the show this morning for a little recap and

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<v Speaker 2>where it goes next as Bobby Slattery, he is the

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<v Speaker 2>founder of Fifty West Brewing. Welcome, how are you rety?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the Supreme Court didn't act and the tro

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<v Speaker 2>was denied and the band is effect. How many people

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<v Speaker 2>showed up and maybe not aware of this and come

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty West in one of your locations and said, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want one of those THHG and fused beverages. Were

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<v Speaker 2>people kind of caught off guard by this?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I don't even know if we want to talk

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<v Speaker 7>about people that showed up unexpected, I think more we

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<v Speaker 7>can speak to the people that showed up the last

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<v Speaker 7>day it was available, Okay, I mean, Sonny, there was

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<v Speaker 7>we had.

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<v Speaker 1>We had people coming in and out of the place NonStop.

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<v Speaker 7>We obviously had the customers reach out the day after

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<v Speaker 7>and go, oh shoot, I missed I missed the boat.

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<v Speaker 7>Now I can't buy this stuff in Ohio? What am

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<v Speaker 7>I supposed to do? But the support for these products

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<v Speaker 7>have been it's been overwhelming. I mean, I never it's

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<v Speaker 7>honestly been kind of fun to just fun to watch

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<v Speaker 7>it from as an outsider. Right, it feels like a

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<v Speaker 7>real movement happening in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's sad that we just killed us on

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<v Speaker 2>the whim of the governor. I will point out You

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<v Speaker 2>had a great post on social said, yeah, we we

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<v Speaker 2>were taking four semi our tractor tows, four semi loads

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<v Speaker 2>of the product of the thh and fused drinks and

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<v Speaker 2>we're taking them down to Kentucky where it's perfectly legal.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of messages that's a not but that you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>but by the state of Ohio. And let me particular,

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<v Speaker 2>Governor de Wine.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean from us, let's talk about like, why

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<v Speaker 7>does this matter to me? And why do I care

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<v Speaker 7>so much? It's about jobs at my at my company.

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<v Speaker 7>It's about people that work for us and not you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we ship that stuff into Kentucky. That's great, that was

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<v Speaker 7>stuff we made, but we're not allowed to make it anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>And we got people that work in our business, great

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<v Speaker 7>people that have done great work to create something that

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<v Speaker 7>the people in Ohio care about. And now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>they don't really have anything to do, right, so we

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<v Speaker 7>have to sit here and say, oh, well, if you

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<v Speaker 7>don't have anything to do, well, then what's our next step?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean?

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<v Speaker 7>And so that's that's what stinks. It's you know, what,

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<v Speaker 7>you want me to pick my pickup or manufacturing and

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<v Speaker 7>move into Kentucky. It's it's right like that's that's where

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<v Speaker 7>it gets a little bit difficult. So we're working through

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<v Speaker 7>that right now. I would say this fight's not over.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's gonna get really interesting here in the

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<v Speaker 7>next week. If this was a football game here, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we're we're under two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I do see a way to score.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a path I want to get in that

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<v Speaker 2>just a second. But I got the opinion of Scottie

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter was on a couple of times with me from

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<v Speaker 2>our urban artifact. You guys are enjoined in the suit

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<v Speaker 2>with two other manufacturers and it didn't go anywhere. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever gotten to your satisfaction as someone who brings

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<v Speaker 2>money into the state of Ohio, you know, you generate

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of tax revenue for the state and the

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<v Speaker 2>locom news spills. Have you ever got an answer to

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<v Speaker 2>your satisfaction as to why Mike the Wine struck down

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<v Speaker 2>the THT beverage issue And it was a line eight

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<v Speaker 2>in veto is a what it was? Because the initial

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<v Speaker 2>bill looked pretty good, you said yourself, Yeah, the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six was great, as best as we could do. There's

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<v Speaker 2>some really positive things in there. But Mike de Wine

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<v Speaker 2>came along with the power of his pen and completely

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<v Speaker 2>struck that out, and the legislature and the courts backed

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<v Speaker 2>them up. Did you ever get an answer as to

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<v Speaker 2>what the issue is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's go a.

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<v Speaker 7>Little bit back on that. I mean, fifty six was

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<v Speaker 7>not good when it started, and we still it wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>and we worked to get it there. And kudos to

1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:44.640
<v Speaker 7>our General Assembly. They did a great job right in

1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:46.519
<v Speaker 7>that bill. I mean we were asking to go probably

1:08:46.560 --> 1:08:48.160
<v Speaker 7>seventy miles an hour, and they told us we could

1:08:48.160 --> 1:08:51.439
<v Speaker 7>go sixty five. So, like obviously there were certain things

1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:53.160
<v Speaker 7>in there we wanted a little bit, a little bit more,

1:08:53.240 --> 1:08:55.040
<v Speaker 7>but overall was a great bill, and there was a

1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:57.519
<v Speaker 7>lot of conversations with people that took the time to

1:08:57.600 --> 1:08:59.400
<v Speaker 7>understand it, those that drank them and those that didn't

1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:02.000
<v Speaker 7>drink them. I think the part from the governor's side is,

1:09:02.400 --> 1:09:05.040
<v Speaker 7>I don't know how involved we never felt, like, you know,

1:09:05.120 --> 1:09:07.880
<v Speaker 7>the governor was very involved in learning about this process

1:09:07.960 --> 1:09:09.680
<v Speaker 7>or trying to understand it or understand where the bill

1:09:09.760 --> 1:09:11.880
<v Speaker 7>was coming from. So when he made the decision on

1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:14.120
<v Speaker 7>behalf of the little hiot winds by just taking his

1:09:14.240 --> 1:09:17.240
<v Speaker 7>pen and crossing out fifteen lines of law, that was

1:09:17.320 --> 1:09:20.160
<v Speaker 7>written in by you know, the people we elected. Yeah,

1:09:20.240 --> 1:09:22.960
<v Speaker 7>it's it. That's a hard one. That's a hard one

1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:26.160
<v Speaker 7>to understand it. And nobody's really clear why. And I

1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:28.560
<v Speaker 7>think that's that's that's the that's the harder part is

1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:30.560
<v Speaker 7>is we don't really have a clear explanation.

1:09:30.400 --> 1:09:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, And that's the frustrating. Give me a reason why,

1:09:32.400 --> 1:09:34.840
<v Speaker 2>and you're thinking and and it tends me because I

1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:36.080
<v Speaker 2>know Mike do Wan. I have talked to him many

1:09:36.120 --> 1:09:38.519
<v Speaker 2>times and seems like a you know, a guy who's

1:09:38.520 --> 1:09:40.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more moderate, willing to listen, but in

1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:42.200
<v Speaker 2>this case, his mind and his mind's been made it

1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:44.320
<v Speaker 2>for years. I remember when hell I was on at night,

1:09:44.320 --> 1:09:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I'd have him on as Attorney General when he was

1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Attorney general, and he's just got this thing about marijuana.

1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:51.240
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to change a man's mind. But it's

1:09:51.320 --> 1:09:53.519
<v Speaker 2>unfortunate that one person has that kind of power because

1:09:53.960 --> 1:09:55.960
<v Speaker 2>this means a whole bunch of jobs have been lost

1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and and for some companies I may have to shut

1:09:57.960 --> 1:10:02.120
<v Speaker 2>down entirely because the growth of Tha beverages was exceeding

1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:05.320
<v Speaker 2>and offsetting the loss and craft beer. Do you find

1:10:05.320 --> 1:10:06.719
<v Speaker 2>that to be true? At fifty West.

1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:10.439
<v Speaker 7>Oh I mean we were our production. I've been put

1:10:10.479 --> 1:10:14.519
<v Speaker 7>into perspective. You know, we would have manufactured more THHC

1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:17.040
<v Speaker 7>beverages this year than we would craft beer. And we're

1:10:17.120 --> 1:10:20.200
<v Speaker 7>the probably between the third and fifth largest brewer in Cincinnati.

1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:23.519
<v Speaker 7>I mean that it's a major, major driver. And the

1:10:23.600 --> 1:10:25.519
<v Speaker 7>other breweries throughout the state or feeling the same thing.

1:10:25.720 --> 1:10:29.080
<v Speaker 7>It was an opportunity that was taken away. That is

1:10:29.080 --> 1:10:31.519
<v Speaker 7>gonna affect jobs, it is going to affect revenue from

1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:36.880
<v Speaker 7>the state, and yeah, it's it's very confusing, and yeah,

1:10:36.960 --> 1:10:39.400
<v Speaker 7>I guess we just we got we're working on.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a path here, Okay, there is There is.

1:10:42.760 --> 1:10:45.240
<v Speaker 2>The ability to overturn this, all right, So let's get

1:10:45.280 --> 1:10:47.760
<v Speaker 2>into that. I just had Friday, and I've had them

1:10:47.880 --> 1:10:50.040
<v Speaker 2>many times. Of course. The author of fifty six Senate

1:10:50.080 --> 1:10:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Bill fifty six Steve Huffman from Tip City, and he

1:10:53.560 --> 1:10:55.600
<v Speaker 2>was a little bit more optimistic as well, from a

1:10:56.000 --> 1:10:59.640
<v Speaker 2>legislative standpoint, but from a business owner who's really, you know,

1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:01.880
<v Speaker 2>face it right now, having to get rid of all

1:11:01.920 --> 1:11:04.080
<v Speaker 2>this product you can't manufacture at more in the state

1:11:04.120 --> 1:11:07.160
<v Speaker 2>of Ohio. Where do you see the optimism here? Give

1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:09.760
<v Speaker 2>me a glass half full stuff. I'm gonna put some

1:11:09.800 --> 1:11:12.400
<v Speaker 2>pressure on Steve here. So Steve wrote the bill.

1:11:13.600 --> 1:11:15.519
<v Speaker 7>There are the votes in the House right now to

1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:18.679
<v Speaker 7>overturn this, it has to be brought by the Speaker,

1:11:18.720 --> 1:11:21.720
<v Speaker 7>Matt Huffman. Matt doesn't have the opportunity to bring it

1:11:21.840 --> 1:11:25.360
<v Speaker 7>until the Senate votes on it. And it's pretty apparent

1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:27.920
<v Speaker 7>that there's also the votes in the Senate. We've talked

1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:30.320
<v Speaker 7>to Steve several times. His initial concern was there weren't

1:11:30.360 --> 1:11:32.160
<v Speaker 7>the votes in the House. Then the vote in the

1:11:32.200 --> 1:11:34.680
<v Speaker 7>House showed up. Now we said, Steve, the votes in

1:11:34.720 --> 1:11:37.200
<v Speaker 7>the House are there, bring this up to the Senate.

1:11:37.240 --> 1:11:39.120
<v Speaker 7>Let's get it done it And now Steve's saying, well,

1:11:39.200 --> 1:11:40.400
<v Speaker 7>we'd have to write some different laws.

1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:41.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we can get this through.

1:11:41.680 --> 1:11:44.040
<v Speaker 7>So what we got to figure out is how do

1:11:44.120 --> 1:11:46.960
<v Speaker 7>we put the pressure on our Senate president and our

1:11:47.000 --> 1:11:49.240
<v Speaker 7>Speaker of the House to bring this to vote.

1:11:49.280 --> 1:11:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Because if they bring it to.

1:11:50.320 --> 1:11:53.639
<v Speaker 7>Vote, the votes exist within the people that we elected

1:11:53.880 --> 1:11:56.320
<v Speaker 7>overturn this. And I've heard that directly from them. We

1:11:56.960 --> 1:12:01.240
<v Speaker 7>are we know it's there. So our question right now is, hey,

1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:02.479
<v Speaker 7>let's bring.

1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:02.880
<v Speaker 3>It to a vote.

1:12:03.000 --> 1:12:04.400
<v Speaker 7>I mean, if you bring it to vote and they

1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:06.559
<v Speaker 7>vote it down. Great, But why are we not bringing

1:12:06.640 --> 1:12:08.760
<v Speaker 7>this to vote is the real question right now. And

1:12:08.800 --> 1:12:10.800
<v Speaker 7>Steve has a lot of power because he wrote the bill.

1:12:11.439 --> 1:12:15.160
<v Speaker 7>We're a little confused why he keeps flopping on you

1:12:15.240 --> 1:12:16.880
<v Speaker 7>know the reason we're not bringing it to vote?

1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I know the Attorney General is involve The

1:12:19.960 --> 1:12:22.960
<v Speaker 2>AG's office was involved in this as well, and trying

1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:25.560
<v Speaker 2>to get a file a response I think to the

1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court case as well. I think the concern is

1:12:29.400 --> 1:12:31.000
<v Speaker 2>from maybe not Steve, and I don't want to put

1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:34.800
<v Speaker 2>words in his mouth, but the concern was that, Okay,

1:12:34.960 --> 1:12:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the governor's override didn't take back for ninety days, so

1:12:38.040 --> 1:12:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you shut down. They should be shut down on March nineteenth,

1:12:40.760 --> 1:12:42.400
<v Speaker 2>and then it can reopen if they were the case

1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:44.439
<v Speaker 2>June tenth, but then you'd have to shut down back

1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:46.800
<v Speaker 2>in November when the federal law kicks in. I wonder

1:12:46.840 --> 1:12:49.280
<v Speaker 2>how many lawmakers are like, well, it's a moot point anyway,

1:12:49.360 --> 1:12:51.280
<v Speaker 2>because you're going to reopen just to shut down when

1:12:51.320 --> 1:12:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the federal law kicks in.

1:12:53.120 --> 1:12:55.519
<v Speaker 7>Well, but you're having the same fight federally, and we

1:12:55.560 --> 1:12:57.680
<v Speaker 7>anticipate that that's going to get extended. If you look

1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:00.720
<v Speaker 7>at the bill that they wrote, they clearly documented in

1:13:00.800 --> 1:13:04.600
<v Speaker 7>that bill guidelines for for when it reopens. So in

1:13:04.720 --> 1:13:06.360
<v Speaker 7>the in the meantime, why are you shutting out all

1:13:06.400 --> 1:13:09.040
<v Speaker 7>the businesses in Ohio and giving us an opportunity? Right,

1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:12.920
<v Speaker 7>you're just behind well, I mean you shut our manufacturing down.

1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:15.280
<v Speaker 7>Why did you shut our manufacturing down? If that's the case,

1:13:15.520 --> 1:13:19.000
<v Speaker 7>let us open our manufacturing back up. Uh, you're you're

1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:22.880
<v Speaker 7>you're putting us behind everybody else. And and this is

1:13:23.000 --> 1:13:25.479
<v Speaker 7>not something that that takes someone to reopen. I mean

1:13:25.800 --> 1:13:28.800
<v Speaker 7>that they their their concern has to do with the

1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:31.080
<v Speaker 7>guidelines that that are put into place, that that's going

1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:34.240
<v Speaker 7>to be governed by the Director of Cannabis Control. We've

1:13:34.320 --> 1:13:37.840
<v Speaker 7>been we've been monitored by the Department of Agriculture, and

1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:41.040
<v Speaker 7>all of the demands from the Department of Control that

1:13:41.120 --> 1:13:43.800
<v Speaker 7>they were asking, all of those demands were being met

1:13:43.800 --> 1:13:46.519
<v Speaker 7>by the Department Agriculture. So just take take the guidelines

1:13:46.520 --> 1:13:48.240
<v Speaker 7>that they were using and apply it and have cannabis

1:13:48.240 --> 1:13:48.920
<v Speaker 7>control hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that would make sense, Bobby, that's the problem. That's

1:13:50.680 --> 1:13:52.599
<v Speaker 2>the same that you and me and someone listening go, well,

1:13:52.640 --> 1:13:54.240
<v Speaker 2>that's a sensible thing. Let's just wait to see what

1:13:54.280 --> 1:13:57.040
<v Speaker 2>the Feds do. And you know, is is ten months

1:13:57.120 --> 1:13:59.360
<v Speaker 2>really going to be that big a deal? Probably not.

1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:02.080
<v Speaker 2>But Bobby's ladders here. He's the founder of fifty West Brewing,

1:14:02.160 --> 1:14:04.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, talking about the fallout from the THC Beverage

1:14:04.560 --> 1:14:07.400
<v Speaker 2>band which he had. Of course, all these business is

1:14:07.479 --> 1:14:09.840
<v Speaker 2>really hard because we had March Madness. The bars were packed.

1:14:09.880 --> 1:14:13.799
<v Speaker 2>People want to watch basketball and enjoy t TCH beverage

1:14:13.880 --> 1:14:16.560
<v Speaker 2>is the fastest growing consumer drink segment there when it

1:14:16.640 --> 1:14:20.439
<v Speaker 2>comes to intoxicating beverages not alcohol. But have to drive

1:14:20.520 --> 1:14:23.760
<v Speaker 2>THC and we can't sell in Ohio, but other states can't.

1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:26.400
<v Speaker 2>How many other states, by the way, besides Kentucky can

1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:27.320
<v Speaker 2>can sell this legally.

1:14:28.439 --> 1:14:31.120
<v Speaker 7>I mean it's federally legal. So there's a few that don't.

1:14:31.160 --> 1:14:33.200
<v Speaker 7>California doesn't. A lot of times in the states that

1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:35.759
<v Speaker 7>that don't allow. It has to do with marijuana's blocking

1:14:35.800 --> 1:14:39.120
<v Speaker 7>on gotcha. So but you know, I would say it's

1:14:39.680 --> 1:14:42.080
<v Speaker 7>it's probably it's great. It's greater than half the states

1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:43.200
<v Speaker 7>in the United States.

1:14:43.680 --> 1:14:47.200
<v Speaker 2>We don't want any parties we want we're Ohio and

1:14:47.240 --> 1:14:48.160
<v Speaker 2>we want no part of it.

1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, everybody bordering us.

1:14:51.000 --> 1:14:53.439
<v Speaker 3>Right, you're good, you can over there.

1:14:53.600 --> 1:14:56.320
<v Speaker 2>So if you live in Cincinnati, if you live in Toledo,

1:14:56.479 --> 1:14:59.320
<v Speaker 2>you go ahead, drive over the border, have some drink.

1:14:59.680 --> 1:15:02.280
<v Speaker 2>You can drink and drive more. Presumably that's not a

1:15:02.360 --> 1:15:05.040
<v Speaker 2>problem with the THC beverage. That that's a problem right there.

1:15:05.200 --> 1:15:07.519
<v Speaker 2>All right, So the fast track here then is what

1:15:07.720 --> 1:15:11.400
<v Speaker 2>so give me, give me like the sunshine. This goes

1:15:11.439 --> 1:15:14.120
<v Speaker 2>on and eventually the federal government comes to their senses.

1:15:14.160 --> 1:15:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much sense they have with the

1:15:15.600 --> 1:15:17.920
<v Speaker 2>shutdowns and everything else. But let's say presumably they have

1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:20.519
<v Speaker 2>some sense, Bobby Slattery, and they go, okay, you know what,

1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:23.519
<v Speaker 2>You're right. The TCH beverages, they're fine. People want it.

1:15:23.640 --> 1:15:26.280
<v Speaker 2>It's a growing sector. No one's dying, you know, no

1:15:26.360 --> 1:15:28.839
<v Speaker 2>one's passing out. It's not like, you know, they're poison

1:15:28.920 --> 1:15:31.519
<v Speaker 2>that we're selling or something like that. It's regulated. All

1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:34.120
<v Speaker 2>is good, that's the hope. Anyway, give me some odds

1:15:34.200 --> 1:15:34.640
<v Speaker 2>on this thing.

1:15:36.439 --> 1:15:38.519
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm I'm not an odds maker. What I

1:15:38.560 --> 1:15:42.040
<v Speaker 7>can tell you is there is there is a real

1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:45.560
<v Speaker 7>will amongst the people that have There's a lot of

1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:47.519
<v Speaker 7>people out there that stop drinking alcohol, that turn to

1:15:47.600 --> 1:15:49.920
<v Speaker 7>these as sort of an alternative, kind of a step

1:15:50.000 --> 1:15:52.519
<v Speaker 7>between an na beverage and drinking alcohol.

1:15:52.600 --> 1:15:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they really care.

1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:56.760
<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of people that care about the fundamentals

1:15:56.800 --> 1:15:59.479
<v Speaker 7>of how me to override you have that. And I

1:15:59.479 --> 1:16:00.960
<v Speaker 7>would tell you there's a lot of businesses out there

1:16:01.040 --> 1:16:03.840
<v Speaker 7>that the worst thing and I'm going to steal some

1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:06.200
<v Speaker 7>words out of out of the you know, the founder

1:16:06.240 --> 1:16:09.120
<v Speaker 7>of Jackie O's art O Strike, he said this, you

1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:11.200
<v Speaker 7>know the other day, but the worst thing you have

1:16:11.280 --> 1:16:12.880
<v Speaker 7>to do as a business owner is light people off.

1:16:13.000 --> 1:16:14.200
<v Speaker 2>It's it's literally horrible.

1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.040
<v Speaker 7>You don't want to have to do that, right, So

1:16:16.160 --> 1:16:18.360
<v Speaker 7>all of us are now faced with that, we're being

1:16:18.400 --> 1:16:18.840
<v Speaker 7>faced with that.

1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And when you face people with that, they're gonna fight.

1:16:21.000 --> 1:16:21.200
<v Speaker 3>We're not.

1:16:21.360 --> 1:16:23.800
<v Speaker 7>This is this is, this is not you know, they

1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:25.679
<v Speaker 7>got us, they got us pinned up against the wall.

1:16:25.840 --> 1:16:27.719
<v Speaker 7>They you know, they got our hands against our throat.

1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:31.439
<v Speaker 7>We're going to fight back. And so I think you're

1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:33.560
<v Speaker 7>gonna see that from all these businesses coming up, and

1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:36.519
<v Speaker 7>you're gonna see the people that are disappointed with their drinks.

1:16:36.560 --> 1:16:39.080
<v Speaker 7>And I think in the next week, you know, you're

1:16:39.160 --> 1:16:41.840
<v Speaker 7>that pressure is going to get applied to you know,

1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:44.240
<v Speaker 7>our our politicians to say, hey, this is really going

1:16:44.320 --> 1:16:45.920
<v Speaker 7>to affect people in Ohio, and our hope is is

1:16:45.960 --> 1:16:48.120
<v Speaker 7>that let's just bring it to vote. Let's bring bring it,

1:16:48.400 --> 1:16:50.599
<v Speaker 7>bring it to vote in the House of the Senate

1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:53.120
<v Speaker 7>for an overturn. They spent, they wrote a great bill.

1:16:53.400 --> 1:16:56.360
<v Speaker 7>The governor fundamentally changed their bill. You know, do they

1:16:56.439 --> 1:16:58.519
<v Speaker 7>have the will to to to come back and say, hey, no,

1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:00.720
<v Speaker 7>that that's not what we wanted. So that's our hope,

1:17:00.760 --> 1:17:02.760
<v Speaker 7>that's what we're going to be fighting for, and I

1:17:02.800 --> 1:17:04.160
<v Speaker 7>think it's going to be a fun couple of weeks.

1:17:04.280 --> 1:17:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, you also have eight months to convince the federal representatives,

1:17:07.920 --> 1:17:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Senate and the members of the House that this is

1:17:11.400 --> 1:17:13.720
<v Speaker 2>a good thing people wanted, they consume it, and and

1:17:14.000 --> 1:17:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you've got time to fight that. I think the problem

1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:17.720
<v Speaker 2>with you guys was you had this petition drive, but

1:17:18.160 --> 1:17:21.000
<v Speaker 2>you didn't have that long to get the necessary signatures

1:17:21.560 --> 1:17:24.920
<v Speaker 2>to send this to the AG's office. So it failed

1:17:25.439 --> 1:17:28.000
<v Speaker 2>simply because I think the clock ran out and you

1:17:28.080 --> 1:17:30.200
<v Speaker 2>had all those weeks and weeks and weeks of very

1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:32.200
<v Speaker 2>cold weather, so people aren't going out to begin with.

1:17:32.840 --> 1:17:37.040
<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, that's also the referendums was a little

1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:38.680
<v Speaker 7>bit of a different you know. That was that was

1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:41.320
<v Speaker 7>suggesting the market completely open. Back in the time, you know,

1:17:42.160 --> 1:17:42.960
<v Speaker 7>no age gating.

1:17:43.120 --> 1:17:45.880
<v Speaker 1>No, they were saying, hey, throw Central fifty six out.

1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:49.639
<v Speaker 7>I think we liked Centel fifty six here in Ohio,

1:17:49.880 --> 1:17:51.599
<v Speaker 7>and we're in favor of it, you know, the beverage

1:17:51.600 --> 1:17:53.840
<v Speaker 7>manufacturers are. And so that's why the referendum was a

1:17:53.880 --> 1:17:55.680
<v Speaker 7>little tricky. That was another piece to it. That that

1:17:55.960 --> 1:17:58.600
<v Speaker 7>that hurt with getting signatures was just that, you know,

1:17:58.720 --> 1:18:01.360
<v Speaker 7>it was It wasn't all orenough scenario. What we're saying is,

1:18:01.479 --> 1:18:03.840
<v Speaker 7>let's stick with the rules and regulations that are you know,

1:18:03.880 --> 1:18:04.960
<v Speaker 7>we want to regulated market.

1:18:05.080 --> 1:18:07.280
<v Speaker 1>He wrote a regulated market. Let's let's abide by it.

1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:08.720
<v Speaker 7>But let's abide by the one that was sent to

1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:11.240
<v Speaker 7>the governor, not the one that he's made the decision on.

1:18:11.280 --> 1:18:14.479
<v Speaker 2>The in eight months, so let me ask you, we're

1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:16.559
<v Speaker 2>almost out of time here, Bobby. In eight months, though,

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<v Speaker 2>can you flip a switch and start if the Feds

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<v Speaker 2>are legalized you or say it's okay, can you just

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<v Speaker 2>flip a switch and start production. Ramp that up, and

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<v Speaker 2>in the next eight months roughly what happens are those jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>No, if the Fed, you know, change the thing November.

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<v Speaker 1>It's illegal in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>It's this is legal federally.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, isn't. And that's the FED to say, put

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<v Speaker 2>their foot there.

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<v Speaker 7>Governor Dwan has decided to make it illegal in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 7>So and if and you know, we're working on the

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<v Speaker 7>federal front right now. I'm not coming from a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of different states to change that. And so that's going

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<v Speaker 7>to get changed. But Ohio is going to be good

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<v Speaker 7>because our governor, you know, changed it. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 7>where we're staying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you got to lean on him more. I

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<v Speaker 2>get the nuance there. I just wonder how many jobs

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be lost because you can't keep people

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<v Speaker 2>on who aren't producing what they were hired doing for long.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you can't sit around for eight months. So I

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<v Speaker 7>think that that that's that's why we're asking. We're looking

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<v Speaker 7>at you. I gotcha the Speaker of the House and

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<v Speaker 7>the Senate President to say, hey, guys, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 7>let's let's put the bill for it that you guys

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<v Speaker 7>voting on and sent it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say I like THC, but not in the

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<v Speaker 2>liquid form. It's fine. It's okay. I'd rather have a

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<v Speaker 2>beer or a bourbon. That's my thing. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I hate when government oversteps and tells otherwise hardworking,

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<v Speaker 2>god fearing, tax paying good citizens what they can and

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<v Speaker 2>can't drink or put in their body. It's not up

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<v Speaker 2>to you, it's up to me. Provided there's testing, provided

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<v Speaker 2>there's health department oversight, and those other things that need

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<v Speaker 2>to be regulated but not banned. That's an entirely different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby Slattery, thanks for the time over at fifty West, brother,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you the best. Yeah, keep me in the

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<v Speaker 2>loop on us. I want to keep fighting this one

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. All right, takes coming, gotcha, take care of

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<v Speaker 2>my man. I got to get a news update in

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<v Speaker 2>here next and then we'll talk Red's baseball ahead on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred W Scott Some show Monday morning, seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>And we do this every Monday during Red Sea and

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<v Speaker 2>that would be our buddy Jeff Carr with Locked on Reds.

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<v Speaker 2>The Reds break camp tomorrow before heading back home for

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<v Speaker 2>opening Day. And camp is not the only thing broken.

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<v Speaker 2>We had this just glod of pitchers and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, now it's pretty thin Jeff, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>How we doing, Sony? The Reds always test their depths.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter how much they've got of it, they

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<v Speaker 3>use it all baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before the season even starts. So Nick Lidolo is pitching,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's going good, and then all of a sudden, it's not.

1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Now We've got a second pitcher down with a blister.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's nothing new. He's battlest his entire career. He

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<v Speaker 2>said this spring he was taking some preventative measures. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if those measures don't hold the March game,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the realistic options for the Reds to manage

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<v Speaker 2>this through one hundred and sixty two games.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I think that there is a special circumstance

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<v Speaker 3>with this because Arizona was something close to Mercury as

1:20:58.479 --> 1:21:01.840
<v Speaker 3>far as the temperature goes. This past week, they were

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<v Speaker 3>moving games around, pushing huntil later in the day, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I think that there was just something to it

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<v Speaker 3>that pushing too hard, too fast, or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But still, you're right, we're talking about a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>there's been one problem in his career and he continues

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<v Speaker 3>to face that one problem. Begin news is that all

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<v Speaker 3>reports indicate that they caught it before it got too bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It did not rip on its own. They were able

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<v Speaker 3>to treat it and all that other stuff after the

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<v Speaker 3>game was over. And so that's exactly what happened with

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<v Speaker 3>Brady Singer, and all reports indicate that he is not

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<v Speaker 3>going to miss any time he's supposed to make his

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<v Speaker 3>first start. Brady Singer is for the third game of

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<v Speaker 3>the season. I am hopeful that that's what we hear

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<v Speaker 3>with Nicolodolo, although we know that we're talking about two

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<v Speaker 3>different pictures when it comes to blusters in this case.

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<v Speaker 3>But I still think that they caught this early enough.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that the body language of Nickelodola was key.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever he was coming off the mound, you could see

1:21:55.960 --> 1:22:00.839
<v Speaker 3>that he was mad. He wasn't dejected or depressed or drained.

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<v Speaker 3>It was that he was angry, almost as if it's

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<v Speaker 3>like here we go again. But I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>this is the case of like, Okay, he's gonna miss

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three days like he did with his last blister

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<v Speaker 3>issue last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we know this is a pattern for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And the question now is just a skip a star situation?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we talking an idea?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that ultimately they probably will simply because there's

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<v Speaker 3>not one more tune up that they can play with,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe they give him an extra bullpen session or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that on the side here to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that everything holds up in normal weather for this time

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<v Speaker 3>of year, for the place that he is used to

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<v Speaker 3>being at, rather than you know, arid, dry condition. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that ultimately they probably will skip that first

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<v Speaker 3>start against Boston and then we'll see him when the

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<v Speaker 3>Red's hit the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, that makes sense. So he misses a little time.

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<v Speaker 2>Who steps in Louder Burns, Williamson, what are we looking at?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it probably just kind of crunch this rotation up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you would be fine to move Brady

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<v Speaker 3>Singer into the second game of the Boston Red Sox series,

1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:11.519
<v Speaker 3>and then you would see redt Louder in the final

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<v Speaker 3>game on Sunday and then on Pittsburgh. I wonder a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit because they'll add that bullpen spot or well,

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<v Speaker 3>they won't put him on the IL, I don't think,

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<v Speaker 3>because he'd only miss one start, but well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so they would play around with the roster a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you might have that extra bullpen guy, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you might see Chase Burns start but only throw three

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<v Speaker 3>or four innings against the Pirates in the fifth game

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<v Speaker 3>of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, and Tito said already that we'd be revisiting that

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<v Speaker 2>situation within a couple of weeks, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out who emerges as a clear number four.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that made any more evident in this last week

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<v Speaker 2>full week of play in Goodyear.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Brandon Williamson is really separating himself. He

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<v Speaker 3>has had a nice spring, and while I've tried to

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<v Speaker 3>take it with a grain of salt, it just seems

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<v Speaker 3>like every time he goes out there he has a

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<v Speaker 3>good outing, and his most recent outing he pitched five

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<v Speaker 3>plus innings, So it kind of looks like he is

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go and be relied on. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>are going to see Nickelodella miss more than one start,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can work Chase Burns up in that

1:24:17.160 --> 1:24:20.360
<v Speaker 3>first start, maybe even the second start. He goes five

1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:23.040
<v Speaker 3>innings and then you're ready to turn him loose. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the Reds are in any better situation

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<v Speaker 3>here than you know. We as Reds fans, we love

1:24:28.360 --> 1:24:31.840
<v Speaker 3>to take that pessimistic view, and whenever we heard six

1:24:31.920 --> 1:24:34.680
<v Speaker 3>starting pitchers for five spots. We're like, well, you know

1:24:34.760 --> 1:24:36.919
<v Speaker 3>that old adage when you say you got two quarterbacks,

1:24:36.920 --> 1:24:39.160
<v Speaker 3>you don't really have a quarterback. Do you have six

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<v Speaker 3>starting pitchers? I mean, you don't have any And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that's the case here. And I was happy

1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:48.760
<v Speaker 3>to hear that their plan for the whole piggyback starter

1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:52.120
<v Speaker 3>situation was not going to be something that extended far

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<v Speaker 3>into the season, because that would be the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say, Okay, this is a bad idea, because you

1:24:57.360 --> 1:24:59.920
<v Speaker 3>are going to tax your bullpen, you are going to

1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:02.519
<v Speaker 3>to put some weird stress on these young starting pitchers.

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<v Speaker 3>But the quick hook, as it were, on this plan

1:25:07.040 --> 1:25:07.960
<v Speaker 3>is the key too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, He's Jeff Carr. So the Car Show, Baby and

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<v Speaker 2>Lockdown Reds is the podcast last weekend of full play.

1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:17.479
<v Speaker 2>I think they break we break camp tomorrow and then

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<v Speaker 2>head back for Thursday. Opening day will be live at

1:25:19.560 --> 1:25:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Holy Girl Banks is always starting at nine o'clock, Me,

1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Moegger and everybody, everybody, everybody up until game time. So

1:25:25.520 --> 1:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>hundred Green is out to at least July. Pretty huge

1:25:28.200 --> 1:25:31.479
<v Speaker 2>hole there, obviously, with your ace going down and trying

1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:33.600
<v Speaker 2>to hold it together. Andrew Abbott's getting the started an

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<v Speaker 2>opening day. Is he ready to go? Does he have

1:25:36.240 --> 1:25:42.439
<v Speaker 2>any blisters? Any headache? Is he like cramping? What's is he? Okay?

1:25:43.479 --> 1:25:46.400
<v Speaker 3>All reports indicated he is ready to go, and his

1:25:46.840 --> 1:25:49.479
<v Speaker 3>most recent start, he got his pitch count up really nicely.

1:25:49.640 --> 1:25:51.640
<v Speaker 3>And I know that a lot of folks continue to

1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:54.439
<v Speaker 3>belabor the statistics and I don't think they will have

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<v Speaker 3>too many worries after his opening day start.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, that's fingers crossed hopefully to go. We know

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned Brady Singer dodge a blister scare of his own.

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<v Speaker 2>How important is it for him to stay healthy this year?

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<v Speaker 3>He is the rock in the middle of the reservation

1:26:10.200 --> 1:26:13.200
<v Speaker 3>mate thirty two starts last year, first treads start to

1:26:13.240 --> 1:26:15.880
<v Speaker 3>make thirty two starts since the Red Side guy's name,

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<v Speaker 3>Louis Castillo and Tyler Malley shown up for him every

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<v Speaker 3>fifth day, so it's been a little bit there and

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<v Speaker 3>I continue to expect him to do that again, and

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<v Speaker 3>it sort of earmarked the top four. And as much

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<v Speaker 3>as we are seeing you know, Hunter Green missing half

1:26:30.200 --> 1:26:33.360
<v Speaker 3>the season or more and Nicolodolo is already dealing with

1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:37.240
<v Speaker 3>blister issues, this whole top four thing is getting. It's

1:26:37.280 --> 1:26:39.320
<v Speaker 3>taken its licks early, but I'd love to see one

1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:43.080
<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty starts from the top four, which that

1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:46.280
<v Speaker 3>just means each guy needs to average thirty. And if

1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>you take probably you know, fifteen away from Hunter Green,

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<v Speaker 3>it's likely that they missed that one hundred and twenty mark.

1:26:54.640 --> 1:26:56.120
<v Speaker 3>But Brady Singer is going to be that guy that

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<v Speaker 3>you can rely on to kind of lift everybody else

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<v Speaker 3>up in that group.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, Cayleen Ferguson is going to start on the el all.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a MRI coming up this week, I think Wednesday.

1:27:06.000 --> 1:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Back here in Cincinnati, bullpen supposed to be a big

1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:11.479
<v Speaker 2>strength after the rebuild this offseason. How much losing him

1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:13.280
<v Speaker 2>does that hurt? To calculus here?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not as bad as you would think in years past,

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<v Speaker 3>because the year the Reds saw their biggest weakness in

1:27:21.000 --> 1:27:24.439
<v Speaker 3>the bullpen being their lefties, and when you know, last year,

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<v Speaker 3>for the much of the year, it was just Brent

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<v Speaker 3>Suitor and he wasn't really even a lefty specialist. He

1:27:30.960 --> 1:27:34.960
<v Speaker 3>was more of a long relief specialist. The Reds needed

1:27:35.040 --> 1:27:37.519
<v Speaker 3>to upgrade that and so that's why they signed him.

1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:40.840
<v Speaker 3>They traded for brock birth and they kept Sam maul

1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:43.439
<v Speaker 3>where a lot of people wondered if they might cut him. Well,

1:27:43.439 --> 1:27:46.280
<v Speaker 3>they're looking like geniuses for keeping him now because he's

1:27:46.320 --> 1:27:49.200
<v Speaker 3>going to be able to backfill Caleb Ferguson's the spot

1:27:49.280 --> 1:27:51.960
<v Speaker 3>at least in the short term. And Sam Maull's actually

1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:54.560
<v Speaker 3>looked good this spring, where last year he was not

1:27:54.760 --> 1:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>good at all in the spring or in the regular season.

1:27:57.600 --> 1:27:59.920
<v Speaker 3>He showed up the camp out of shape. This year

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<v Speaker 3>he's completely different. It looks like he was super focused.

1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:06.760
<v Speaker 3>All of his appearances have looked really well. Albeit he's

1:28:06.760 --> 1:28:08.679
<v Speaker 3>still had a little bit of control, but every pitcher

1:28:08.760 --> 1:28:11.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of goes through that during spring training, and so

1:28:11.320 --> 1:28:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I expect him to at least fill in in a

1:28:15.080 --> 1:28:19.280
<v Speaker 3>way that the Reds won't necessarily miss Caleb Ferguson as much.

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<v Speaker 3>But whenever Caleb Ferguson returns, then we will see the

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<v Speaker 3>sailing of the bullets.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Sam mall also made the team, and Tito talked

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<v Speaker 2>about his stuff looking a lot better late in camp.

1:28:29.439 --> 1:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Is he a legitimate back end weapon or is he

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<v Speaker 2>is he a roster filler? While Ferguson recovers.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, if he could pitch like he pitched in twenty

1:28:37.400 --> 1:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty four. He could be a legitimate weapon. He was

1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:43.960
<v Speaker 3>a guy that was super good at limiting opponents whenever

1:28:44.080 --> 1:28:46.120
<v Speaker 3>he came in. I kind of had this stet that

1:28:46.200 --> 1:28:47.880
<v Speaker 3>I never really came up with a good name for

1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:50.840
<v Speaker 3>a very relief pitcher that came in, didn't allow base

1:28:50.920 --> 1:28:54.400
<v Speaker 3>rounder and got at least one strikeout and Sam Mall led.

1:28:54.479 --> 1:28:58.040
<v Speaker 3>That was second in the team to Alexis Diaz that year.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I think a lot of people would

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<v Speaker 3>have been surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's what we need. We need We need

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<v Speaker 2>another statistic in baseball. We need a new plan every year.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at the long list and I'm like, flony,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not enoay, there's not enough data. More I demand, I

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<v Speaker 2>demand more data. He is Jeff Carr with lockdown, right,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. So that's the pitching situation which has been

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<v Speaker 2>pretty frightening here in the last couple of weeks, with

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<v Speaker 2>the injuries, the blisters, of course, losing your your opening

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<v Speaker 2>day ace, Caleb bur Ferguson on the bullpen. What can

1:29:31.080 --> 1:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>make up for that and cover a lot of problems there?

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<v Speaker 2>If indeed we have problems would be, of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>position player. So let's talk lineup. Matt McClain has had

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best off spriensive offensive springs in all

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<v Speaker 2>of baseball, I mean all the major leagues. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>real this time?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that there are elements to it that are real.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to expect him to hit over three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred for the season, but there's a very key thing

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<v Speaker 3>that he has done this spring that he just hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>done so far in his two year career, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is he has cut his chase rate almost I mean

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<v Speaker 3>almost by ten percent. His career chase rate is at

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven percent and this year, or sorry, twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>And this spring he only swung it pitches outside the

1:30:15.120 --> 1:30:18.040
<v Speaker 3>strike zone at a rate of seventeen percent. So his

1:30:18.120 --> 1:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>plate discipline is up, his eye is better, He's seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the ball really well. Now there's some other stats, like

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to his luck and things like that

1:30:28.240 --> 1:30:31.200
<v Speaker 3>that would say that, well, a five twenty six batting

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<v Speaker 3>average is a little high. It's a little lucky, and

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you make more hits than outs, I think most

1:30:37.280 --> 1:30:40.560
<v Speaker 3>people would agree with that. But at the end of

1:30:40.600 --> 1:30:43.680
<v Speaker 3>the day, I am buying his plate discipline, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>buying his approach the way that he is able to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stay back on his back foot and wait

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<v Speaker 3>on that breaking ball that's low and away, put his

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<v Speaker 3>bat on it and just poking in the right field

1:30:53.040 --> 1:30:56.519
<v Speaker 3>for a single and move along. He has now covered

1:30:56.600 --> 1:30:59.080
<v Speaker 3>the hole in his swing that pitchers knew about last

1:30:59.160 --> 1:31:01.800
<v Speaker 3>year are going to have to regain plan for him.

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<v Speaker 3>And while they do that, I think Matt McLean's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be producing quite a bit for the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, Yeah, and he's it looked incredible so far

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<v Speaker 2>as it has for Ellie. He just continues to do

1:31:12.680 --> 1:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Ellie like things. He's healthy, he looks good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we saw a couple of different situations in

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<v Speaker 3>the spring where he either walks where he gets a

1:31:21.479 --> 1:31:24.040
<v Speaker 3>single and then you blink and he's on third. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly what we need from him in games where

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<v Speaker 3>he might not have his best stuff with the bat,

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<v Speaker 3>as long as his legs can carry him forward. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a five tool guy. Yeah, you know, if all five

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<v Speaker 3>of those tools are working like we've seen the spring,

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<v Speaker 3>then we are going to see the superstar that we

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<v Speaker 3>know that he can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha Noelvie Marti had some some shaky moments in right

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<v Speaker 2>field defensively, Tito said he made the club for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's your honest assessment. Who's watched a lot of

1:31:50.640 --> 1:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>spring training honest as seven of Noelvie Marti as an

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<v Speaker 2>everyday player for the season starting Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like the old cartoons or something where somebody

1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:02.000
<v Speaker 3>he's like trying to figure something out and so they

1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:04.840
<v Speaker 3>hold up a big spyglass to something. I'm still holding

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<v Speaker 3>up a big spyglass to Noelvi Marte when he's fielding

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<v Speaker 3>right now. I got to figure out what that looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>Because obviously he had the best play of the year

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<v Speaker 3>last year for the Reds. But at the same time,

1:32:15.640 --> 1:32:18.240
<v Speaker 3>we saw plenty of plays where he's kind of run

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<v Speaker 3>around in the outfield like bugs bunny, trying to find

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<v Speaker 3>a baseball, and you don't want to see that on

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<v Speaker 3>a regular basis. You want to see guys taking good routes.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to see him putting himself in an easy

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<v Speaker 3>position to make a play, and I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>we really saw that this spring. So I hope that

1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:40.280
<v Speaker 3>he acquires that rather quickly because this outfield it seems

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because there were some nice performances from guys this year,

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't necessarily know that I buy how much

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<v Speaker 3>this outfield or how good this outfield has looked in

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<v Speaker 3>spring training. I've got to see that. That's the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I've remarked for the season that I'm like,

1:32:56.439 --> 1:32:58.479
<v Speaker 3>I got to see it to believe it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>got to see his glove working believe okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also the bench too, love the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they resigned to a Vigno Platinum glove catcher send Multilegit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome, Will Benson. Obviously, Nathaniel Low who made the

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<v Speaker 2>club despite a lot of personal trauma during spring training,

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<v Speaker 2>but he still showed up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Nick Kral must be living right because for

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<v Speaker 3>NATHANIELO to be available for nothing, and that's what the

1:33:22.960 --> 1:33:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Reds got him for was nothing, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a key part of this team for this year

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<v Speaker 3>because I think that he's going to bounce back in

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<v Speaker 3>a big way. He's a guy that his career has

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<v Speaker 3>been good. Last year was not, and so if he

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<v Speaker 3>can just get back to what the back of his

1:33:38.760 --> 1:33:41.240
<v Speaker 3>baseball card says, then he is going to be an

1:33:41.280 --> 1:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>asset for the Reds. And how many times have we

1:33:43.120 --> 1:33:44.599
<v Speaker 3>been able to say that for the Reds in these

1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:47.160
<v Speaker 3>past couple of years. So many young guys trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make their way in the major leagues and they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a back of the baseball card. NATHANIELO does and

1:33:52.920 --> 1:33:54.639
<v Speaker 3>we know what he can bring to the field. Good

1:33:54.720 --> 1:33:58.360
<v Speaker 3>on base guy, solid line drive power. He's everything that

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Kral says he wants a hitter is. Nick Carl

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<v Speaker 3>loves to tell us how much he loves the life

1:34:03.600 --> 1:34:06.760
<v Speaker 3>a line drive hitter. That's so Nathaniel is. And so

1:34:06.880 --> 1:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna play for base BDH but also be pinch

1:34:11.000 --> 1:34:13.679
<v Speaker 3>hit extraoreding air for the Reds from the left side

1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:15.439
<v Speaker 3>of the plate. And I think he's gonna be a

1:34:15.479 --> 1:34:17.360
<v Speaker 3>weapon that the Reds can use in multiple spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good should be interesting. Ready to play some ball. Sunday,

1:34:21.520 --> 1:34:25.080
<v Speaker 2>we got a little taste of what summer's like for

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty I felt like you're in Florida for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours and then back to reality. But the forecast

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<v Speaker 2>looks good so far. To get this one in and

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<v Speaker 2>he is Jeff Carr with Lockdown Reds this Morning on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW all the best, buddy, Thanks for coming

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<v Speaker 2>in this morning, and I'm ready for some baseball, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny. Same here, man. I can't wait. Just a

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<v Speaker 3>few days left. The games will count, It'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't wait. Go back all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We got pictures going down. We got warm weather for

1:34:52.800 --> 1:34:55.360
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours, now back to what feels like the

1:34:55.479 --> 1:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>deep freeze. We've got a crisis, Iran. We're pulling out. No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doubling down. And we've got the DHS funding stop

1:35:03.320 --> 1:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>and the partial government shutdown, meaning there's long lines and

1:35:06.880 --> 1:35:08.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of airports in the country right now. We

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<v Speaker 2>got Chuck Norris died on Friday for crying out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a lot of stress. I'm speaking of stress.

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<v Speaker 2>Cunningham's coming up in minutes. But you know what we

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<v Speaker 2>you know we need, we need baseball and you'll have

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<v Speaker 2>it here Thursday, Live It All begins new on the

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<v Speaker 2>Home of the Red seven hundred WWD, Cincinnati