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Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna have a great even tonight here at Nightside.

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Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray. I'm the host of the

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Speaker 2: show apply entitled Nightside with Dan Ray. We are in

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Speaker 2: year and nineteen, second month of year nineteen, here on Nightside.

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Speaker 2: But who's keeping score? Who's keeping count? Nobody except for me? No.

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Speaker 2: Rob Brooks is back. That's the big news tonight. That's

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Speaker 2: the headline of the show tonight. After a week off

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Speaker 2: for Halloween. He is a big Halloween celebrant, Rob Brooks.

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Speaker 2: It is his holiday. Some people it's Christmas. Some people

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Speaker 2: the fourth of July. Rob, it's Halloween. Rob. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Nice nice to have you here, that's for sure. He's

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Speaker 2: still tired from all of the partying that he did

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Speaker 2: last week. It was unbelievable, night after night, day after day.

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Speaker 2: Got very little sleep, right Rob, Yes, he see just

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Speaker 2: confirmed that. Anyway, we have a four interesting guests coming

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Speaker 2: an emporium of interpretive dance Yes, otherwise known as a

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Speaker 2: strip joint, which is attempting to change its location in

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Speaker 2: downtown Boston. In what was colloquially known here in Boston

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Speaker 2: as the combat zone back in the day, and it

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Speaker 2: is certainly no longer its day in Boston, that is

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Speaker 2: for sure. There are I think there were a forty

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Speaker 2: four emporia of interpretive dance in the so called combat zone.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple left and one wants to move, and

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Speaker 2: very upset about it. We'll we talked about Boston City Council.

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Speaker 2: Ed Flynna represents that community, represents the people in that community,

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Speaker 2: and they've kind of had it with the combat zone

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Speaker 2: later on time, I'm going to talk about a pretty

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Speaker 2: fiery interview, really interesting interview last night between the President,

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Speaker 2: all of that. We'll certainly keep you up to dat

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Speaker 2: on what's going on with politics. Elections Day elections tomorrow

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Speaker 2: city council races here in Boston, as well as two

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Speaker 2: as the mayor's race in New York City. So we'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens. But we have four interesting guests. And

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Speaker 2: this is November, and November is going to be known

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Speaker 2: November super moon. With us as Jim Zabrowski, he's the

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Speaker 2: president of the Aldrich Astronomical Society. He's always looking skyward.

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Speaker 2: He's going to tell us how to look skyward later

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Speaker 2: this week and see the moon. It's going to look

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Speaker 2: a little bigger. Let's put it like that. Jim Zabrowski,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back tonight.

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Speaker 3: How are you, sir, Well, Thank you very much, Seah

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Speaker 3: glad to be back.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about this. I know we talked about some

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Speaker 2: other astronomical phenomenon a couple of weeks ago right here

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Speaker 2: We were talking about media showers and I made the

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to see the supermoon. When will it

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Speaker 3: Wednesday looks like the opportunity basically see it. The supermoon

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Speaker 2: Now. My understanding, unfortunately, is that the weather I was

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Speaker 2: So when is it Well, I'm sure it fluctuates, but

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Speaker 2: And the difference would you say it's going to be

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Speaker 3: Usually when you look at the horizon, you can be

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I assume psychologically when we're down, when someone's

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Speaker 2: this is a really big moon. Has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: Jim. One other thing that I always like to do

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Speaker 2: Then you okay, So give us the website when one time,

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Speaker 2: You don't need the www. Trust me.

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Speaker 3: Alrich yeah, I just realized that as I was saying

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Speaker 2: Well that's perfect. I thought that you were going to

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Speaker 2: and we're going to be looking for that supermoon and

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Speaker 2: Sky, absolutely this. There's a great website which I had

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are delighted to be joined by Caitlin Ummolts,

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Speaker 3: How are you hi there?

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Speaker 4: Which grew up with this idea first of all, well,

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Speaker 2: So so how is it that these restaurants can can

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Speaker 2: How does how do the these little restaurants in Somerville,

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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, authenticity and integrity two important elements, that's for sure. Well, Caitlin,

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Speaker 2: Can email you. Why don't you give us that email

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's k A T E L Y N period

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Speaker 4: U M H O L T z at Boston dot com.

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Speaker 2: Perfect, Caitlin almost at Boston dot com. Caitlin, thanks again,

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the conversation tonight. You are an epicurean delight. Thank

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Speaker 2: My guess is Mark shield Drop. Mark is the senior

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Speaker 5: any assumptions about this incident. We don't know what happened.

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Speaker 2: I know, oh no.

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Speaker 5: You didn't. You did a great job kind of characterizing

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Speaker 5: that heightened risk that does occur at night. And really,

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Speaker 5: you know, you have to respect the construction workers work

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Speaker 5: in those those hours doing work to improve our roads,

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Speaker 5: and toad drivers and first responders and construction workers, utility workers.

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Speaker 5: These are folks that are are out there to help people,

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Speaker 5: and many of them are getting struck on the roadside

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Speaker 5: assisting people like you and me. So the least we

446
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Speaker 5: can do is slow down and move over. And I

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Speaker 5: really like what you said about slowing down a little

448
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Speaker 5: bit because there's some confusion out there. We do see

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Speaker 5: pretty okay compliance. You know, I don't want to say

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Speaker 5: it's great. Our recent research shows that about sixty four

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Speaker 5: percent of drivers either slow down and move over, but

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Speaker 5: almost forty percent didn't do anything differently. That tells me

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Speaker 5: maybe they're not paying attention and people are really driving

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Speaker 5: too quickly. If you talk to a roadside technician, you

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Speaker 5: talk to direct worker, or even a state trooper who's

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Speaker 5: on our freeways, they'll tell you what it's like when

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Speaker 5: you're on the roadside and cars whizen big on seventy

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Speaker 5: five eighty miles an hour. So listening your foot off

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Speaker 5: that gas, slow it down a little bit. If you

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Speaker 5: can't move over, you know, slow it down. And if

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Speaker 5: you're in the middle lane, slow it down too, because

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Speaker 5: then you can make a little room for that person

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Speaker 5: the right lane to move over, and that can make

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Speaker 5: a huge difference and prevent some of what we've seen

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Speaker 5: recently and what we saw last night.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is that I know that most drivers,

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Speaker 2: including myself, when we're driving during the day and there's

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Speaker 2: road work, most of us will say, we why don't

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Speaker 2: they do this work at night when there's not as

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Speaker 2: much traffic on the road. Well, when they're doing it

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Speaker 2: at night and there's not as much traffic on the road,

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Speaker 2: it helps those of us who have to drive during

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Speaker 2: the day or have to get to work but it's

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Speaker 2: more dangerous at night simply because visibility is more difficult.

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Speaker 2: People sometimes are wearing clothes that you don't see that

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Speaker 2: person as clearly as you would. And you add in

477
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Speaker 2: whatever whatever people, whether they're tired or any other way impacted. Adversely,

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Speaker 2: those men and women who are working at night to

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Speaker 2: make our commute during the day more easy and to

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Speaker 2: improve the roads, they're putting themselves in danger. And the

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Speaker 2: least we can do as drivers is to get the

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Speaker 2: heck over and give them a break. And if it

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Speaker 2: slows down the traffic and the process, well that's not

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Speaker 2: a bad thing either.

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Speaker 5: No one hundred percent agree. I mean, I really couldn't

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Speaker 5: say much better than that, you know, that is the

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Speaker 5: least we can do. These are people with families at

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Speaker 5: home who worry about them. They've got children, spouses, parents,

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Speaker 5: you know. The ripple effect from an incident like this,

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Speaker 5: you know, has serious consequences. They have co workers. Think

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Speaker 5: about the folks who have to watch their colleague get

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Speaker 5: transported from the scene. They still got to finish their

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Speaker 5: job that night. The troopers there and this is a scene,

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Speaker 5: you know, troopers around scene, thank goodness, and they were

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Speaker 5: able to apply a tournique to the victim's injured leg.

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Speaker 5: So we don't know how this could have could have

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Speaker 5: been if it was a different situation. But with troopers

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Speaker 5: there and construction crew sitting up at detail, that would

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Speaker 5: suggest that there's flashing lights already. There are plenty of

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Speaker 5: warning signs as a driver when you're driving along that

501
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Speaker 5: there's construction up ahead. Work zones are everywhere now, so

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Speaker 5: you really have to be making a point of not

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Speaker 5: paying attention or caring to cause an incident where somebody

504
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Speaker 5: struck on the roadside, and by slowing down and moving over,

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Speaker 5: you're eliminating that close call, you're reducing the one.

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Speaker 2: The other thing to remember is that this is the law.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, just as there's a speed limit of the road,

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Speaker 2: if the speed limit is sixty five miles an hour,

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Speaker 2: keep it one hundred and sixty five. But if you

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Speaker 2: if the Lauren Massachusetts is if you see someone on

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Speaker 2: the side of the road, particularly someone who's working or

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Speaker 2: police officer, or if it's just an average person. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if there's some guy out there who's walking on the

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Speaker 2: road and putting himself in danger, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: hit the guy. Just pull over, slow down, pull over.

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Speaker 2: It's just common sense, common sense.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it is a law in off of these states.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true. To remember, I should have I

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Speaker 2: should have mentioned that. Thank you for correcting of that,

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Speaker 2: because no matter where in the sound of our voice,

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Speaker 2: shel listening, this is a this is a common sense law.

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Speaker 2: Mark shield Drop, senior spokesman for tripa A Northeast. As always,

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Speaker 2: I really enjoy every time talking with your palal I thank.

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Speaker 5: You, s Thanks Dan. I agree that I enjoy it

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Speaker 5: very much. Thanks so much, Dan, have a great one book.

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Speaker 2: Well, we get back when we talk about negative campaign ads,

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Speaker 2: negative political ads. We're going to talk with a professor

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Speaker 2: who's an assist the professor in college, and we are

529
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Speaker 2: going to talk about the reason why negative campaign ads

530
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Speaker 2: persist because they work. I actually like negative campaign ads

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Speaker 2: because it tells me that for the most part, that

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Speaker 2: the guy or the gal that's running the negative campaign

533
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Speaker 2: ads doesn't have much to say about themselves. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if my guest, doctor Bob Kabbala, agrees with me or not.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on Nightside right after this quick break.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's

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Speaker 1: news radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, tomorrow is suit of what we call the off

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Speaker 2: year elections. These are not president it's not a presidential year,

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Speaker 2: and it's not a mid term election. It is an election,

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Speaker 2: the first election that follows the election the presidential year election.

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Speaker 2: So that tomorrow we have races for the governor's office

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Speaker 2: in both Virginia and New Jersey, as well as the

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Speaker 2: mayoral race in New York City. So we've all seen

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Speaker 2: a little bit of politics in the last few weeks.

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Speaker 2: And with us as a professor, Bob Cabbala, he's a

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Speaker 2: PhD and poly side from Yale University and assistant professor

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Speaker 2: in Texas. And we're gonna talk about negative campaign ads. Professor,

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Speaker 2: I want you to know I love watching negative campaign ads.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it probably times you crazy, but I think

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Speaker 2: they haven't they have a value. And I'd love to

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Speaker 2: know what your thought is about these negative campaign ads.

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Speaker 6: Now there's something to that. And thanks so much for

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Speaker 6: having me on. I actually really agree. And look, let

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Speaker 6: me say, do campaign negative campaign ads sometimes work? They

556
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Speaker 6: sure do, and we could, you know, go down the

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Speaker 6: list of classics. There's lbj's nineteen sixty four, you know,

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Speaker 6: Daisy ad against Barry Goldwater, which but which.

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Speaker 2: By which, by the which, by the way, was absolutely untrue.

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Speaker 2: Goldwaller had never said I'm gonna nuke anybody.

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Speaker 6: But then well see, there you go. And so as

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Speaker 6: far back as eighteen hundred Thomas Jefferson campaigns, you could

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Speaker 6: say in a negative way, he probably had some reason

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Speaker 6: to against John Adams, who's being restrictive on freedom of

565
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Speaker 6: speech issues. As recently as two thousand and four, think

566
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Speaker 6: of George W. Bush and the swift Boat Veterans ad.

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Speaker 6: Of course that was an independent or an aligned group.

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Speaker 6: So look, there's a time and a place you mentioned

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Speaker 6: in the lead up that often a negative ad suggests

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Speaker 6: the person who's putting it out has nothing positive to say.

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Speaker 6: That can be true as well. So these can certainly backfire,

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Speaker 6: and I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to watch. Yeah, they can be some

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Speaker 2: I think that political ads. I think the best ads

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Speaker 2: on TV right now are the Progressive ads for the

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Speaker 2: Progressive Insurance Company, where they use humor, you know, don't

577
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Speaker 2: don't turn into your parents, and they have a guy

578
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Speaker 2: who's sort of the teacher. He's almost like professorial, and

579
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Speaker 2: he's talking to these people and trying to help them

580
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Speaker 2: not turn into their parents. I wish that it would

581
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Speaker 2: be more humor in presidential ads, and I think I

582
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Speaker 2: don't know that we crossed into that area much as yet,

583
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Speaker 2: but it's just I think is a potentially agree for

584
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Speaker 2: some smart people to come up with some humorous ads

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Speaker 2: where you can sort of gently or maybe not so gently,

586
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Speaker 2: make fun of your candidate and then quickly flip it

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Speaker 2: back and say, but you know, with me, I think,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It just seems to me that that's

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Speaker 2: the next frontier.

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Speaker 6: And I take it when you say I agree when

591
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Speaker 6: you say humor, that's probably not quite the same thing

592
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Speaker 6: as trolling. But look when you say being positive and

593
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Speaker 6: humorous is effective, I think that's where people have to

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Speaker 6: be careful, especially about negative ads. To me, look at

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Speaker 6: all the negative ads that have been thrown against mom Donnie,

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Speaker 6: and I happen to have a very particular view of

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Speaker 6: mister mom Donnie's ideologies. I disagree with his political take,

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Speaker 6: but he seemed to really withstand the negative ads that

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Speaker 6: have been thrown at him. And I think the reason

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Speaker 6: is he comes across as a positive, policy oriented candidate

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Speaker 6: in this race. He's younger, so I think the risk

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Speaker 6: when you're kind of going negative, if you're maybe older

603
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Speaker 6: and not seen as thorough goingly positive and optimistic, you know,

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Speaker 6: it can backfire. It backfired for Momdale when he went

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Speaker 6: after Reagan in nineteen eighty four in a negative way,

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Speaker 6: and then Reagan actually responded with some humor in that

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Speaker 6: one of those debates. I'm sure you recall, Yeah, he

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Speaker 6: wouldn't refer to his candidates, you know, age and exactly exactly, so, yes,

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Speaker 6: I think that's the next friend.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the lie of his youth and

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Speaker 2: lack of experience, and that was spontaneous that I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that probably they had prepared him for that. I remember.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm sure you recall this. Dan

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Speaker 2: Quayle was debating Lloyd Benston in nineteen eighty eighty eight

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Speaker 2: the vice presidential debate, and Bent and Quail had been

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Speaker 2: Quail had been talking about his age and he was

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Speaker 2: only I think forty two at the time, and he

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Speaker 2: was comparing himself to Jack Kennedy who was elected at

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Speaker 2: the age of forty three, and Benston. You just knew

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Speaker 2: Benson was going to have some sort of a line

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Speaker 2: like that, and Benston hit Quail with the Texas draw.

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Speaker 2: You know, a new President Kennedy and you know President

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Speaker 2: You're know John Kennedy and Wuayle had that look in

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Speaker 2: the deer in the headlight look. And immediately I thought

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Speaker 2: to myself that if I were Quail and I was

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Speaker 2: in I was in the media room in Omaha, that

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Speaker 2: vias Quaila, I would have waited for the applause to

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Speaker 2: die down, and I would have turned to Benston and

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Speaker 2: I would say he would have said something like Senator Benston,

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Speaker 2: I know Mike Docaccus and you know Mike Docraccus because

631
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Speaker 2: was trying to get the conservative Democrat. Uh, he was

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Speaker 2: trying to recreate the Boston Austin connection from from nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 6: But absolutely when you take it in stride like that,

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Speaker 6: when you roll with it and you've got the humor,

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Speaker 6: and you know, you mentioned Ducacus, which is interesting because

636
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Speaker 6: he was really on the receiving end of you know,

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Speaker 6: one of the most devastatingly effective attack ads. And you know,

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Speaker 6: say what you will about whether overall running you know,

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Speaker 6: the Willie Horton ad. I mean, there's many ways to

640
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Speaker 6: see it, but just in terms of day to day effectiveness,

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Speaker 6: people care about crime and that was probably an ad

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Speaker 6: that that he didn't recover from. So it's I think

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Speaker 6: it's it's came.

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Speaker 2: By, by the way, just for the for the record,

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Speaker 2: that issue was first raised not by the Bush campaign

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Speaker 2: but by the Al Gore campaign. Okay, well that's fair

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Speaker 2: running against. And then that was it was reinforced when

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Speaker 2: Bernard Shaw asked Caucus the question about what would you do.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough question. If your wife were raped and murdered,

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Speaker 2: would you change your position? Yeah, death metally into caucus.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think he handled that as well

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Speaker 2: as you should have.

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Speaker 4: And I well, and.

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Speaker 6: To be clear, I would have voted for Herbert Walker Bush.

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Speaker 6: I interned for for President George W.

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Speaker 2: Bush.

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Speaker 6: So I'm you know that my vote would would have been,

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Speaker 6: you know, in that direction. So yes, so they you know,

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Speaker 6: that's a real issue.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you yalely sticked you yalely stick together.

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Speaker 6: Y'all university, y'all university when you're down in Texas.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely I got it, Professor Gobau. I really enjoyed the conversation. Uh, obvious,

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Speaker 2: that's your wheelhouse and it's my been my professional wheelhouse

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Speaker 2: for many years as a TV reporter. And now as

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Speaker 2: a talk show host up here. And I just think

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Speaker 2: that at some point, maybe some candidate, we'll be able

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Speaker 2: to incorporate some humor and have some have some fun

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Speaker 2: with it. I remember Deconcuss did a great ad on

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Speaker 2: get Part the flip Flop ad where he had it's

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Speaker 2: almost like it early use of AI technology or something,

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Speaker 2: where he had switching his positions. Anyway, we could talk

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Speaker 2: all night.

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Speaker 6: We could talk about AI generated humorous. And I don't

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Speaker 6: have the President Trump's sort of spoof on the No

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Speaker 6: King's protest in mind. That's a longer conversation.

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Speaker 2: I did not know. I did. I didn't think if

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Speaker 2: you're talking about the one where he's in the airplane

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Speaker 2: flying over New York City, now I think that was

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Speaker 2: just in bad taste. But well, we could pick this

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Speaker 2: up again sometime. I enjoyed the conversation a whole lot.

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Speaker 6: I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you much, Thank you very much. All Right, and

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Speaker 2: we get back. We're going to talk about what might

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Speaker 2: be the last gasp for Boston's combat zone. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back on Nightside right after the nine o'clock news