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Speaker 1: They say. The hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to repeat seasons. It's winning it again this

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Speaker 2: Yearning is.

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Speaker 3: Not trying to win a championship, They're trying to repeat.

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Speaker 1: It's October Baseball for your World champion in La Dodger.

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Speaker 4: The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western

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Speaker 4: Division champions.

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Speaker 1: And you know what that means.

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Speaker 2: Saxon Kates and AM is back.

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Speaker 1: This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates

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Speaker 1: and former World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 2: Reacting taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball all postseason.

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Speaker 1: Long now here. They are on AM five to seventy

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Speaker 1: LA Sports and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Steve Sacks, Tim Kaits.

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Speaker 1: Tim Kates and World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 2: Ah, good Monday morning to you Southern California. Sason Kates

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Speaker 2: and A with you. You're all all morning long, all

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Speaker 2: week long, all October long. As the Dodgers are going

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Speaker 2: back to the World Series looking to defend their World

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Speaker 2: Series championship. Who will they face? We don't know. We'll

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Speaker 2: find out tonight Game seven of the American League Championship

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Speaker 2: Series as the Toronto Blue Jays play host to the

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Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners in Game seven of their best of seven series. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: are you watching that game in Arnest tonight? I watched

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Speaker 2: the Saturday. I watched the game last night instead of

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night Baseball. The Falcons and forty nine Ers no

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Speaker 2: offense year forty nine ers. By the way, Hey Jude,

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Speaker 2: they got the wine.

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Speaker 5: The outcome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know, they just keep it.

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Speaker 5: Was an amazing game.

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Speaker 6: I gotta tell you watch that well, it's I was

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Speaker 6: flipping between the two. Yeah, and yeah, I was flipping

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Speaker 6: between the two.

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Speaker 5: But man, I'll tell you what. They pulled it off. What?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you happen to watch the Raider game yesterday?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: My god, It's so hard to watch him because I'm

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Speaker 6: such a Raider fan. You know, forty nine Ers and

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Speaker 6: Raiders are right there with each other. But god, I mean,

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Speaker 6: they just everything's yiss. I mean, I wonder how Tom

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Speaker 6: Brady's sitting with this. I mean, he's that guy's a winner.

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Speaker 6: He can't he can't be standing for this.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine he's too happy when when the Raiders

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Speaker 2: lose thirty one to nothing. Pete Carroll said, did not

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Speaker 2: see this coming, And I don't know how he didn't

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Speaker 2: see it coming scene as it happened to him a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. When they want to Washington play

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Speaker 2: the Commanders against the Colts, same thing happened when they

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Speaker 2: faced them in Indianapolis. This is it.

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Speaker 6: It's Travis Kelcey, who might be the slowest tight end

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Speaker 6: ever to play NFL football, maybe the slowest tight end ever.

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Speaker 6: That guy gets open, he lets everybody clear out. He

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Speaker 6: does he acts like he's blocking and then just turns around.

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Speaker 6: They throwing the ball and it's and it's worked for him.

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Speaker 6: He's going to the Hall of Fame because of this.

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Speaker 6: You know what, when you're playing against the.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs, Gord Kelsey, okay, Gore, Travis Kelsey, and you eliminate

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Speaker 2: half of the throwing by Mahomes.

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Speaker 6: He's the dude is wide open. Every single play, there's

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Speaker 6: nobody in fifteen yards of him.

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Speaker 5: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm tired of third and eleven and.

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Speaker 6: This, this dude that can't even run is there's nobody

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Speaker 6: fifteen yards of him every single.

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Speaker 2: Play third eleven and he picks up sixteen It's like,

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Speaker 2: wait a second, what are we doing? What are we doing?

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable? Yeah, it's hey, what do you think about?

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Speaker 6: Like the guy's going deep and the defenders there, and

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Speaker 6: the defenders not even turning around looking at the ball.

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Speaker 6: No chance for an interception, No, because he's looking at

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Speaker 6: the at the receiver's eyes and hoping he can stick

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Speaker 6: his hand in his face and block it off. This

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Speaker 6: this has gotta be the most ridiculous defense I've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: I would think, you know, I'm not a football player,

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Speaker 6: but I would think if the guy's going out for

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Speaker 6: a pass and he turns around and looks up, you

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Speaker 6: see his eyes starting to get big, he's gonna catch

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Speaker 6: the ball. Maybe the defenders should turn around and look

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Speaker 6: at the ball. It just went right by your head.

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Speaker 6: You all you have to do is turn around and

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Speaker 2: Interception, yeah, or put your hands up.

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Speaker 6: That's why they've invented this back shoulder thing, because they

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Speaker 6: just throw it. They throw it short because they know

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's stupid. It's it's the same thing with

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Speaker 2: your third and long. Throw it to the end zone

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Speaker 2: and hope that you get a p I call. If not,

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Speaker 2: you get a touchdown. Either way, you're going to get

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Speaker 2: the ball and extend your drive.

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Speaker 6: It's I know a lot of people aren't gonna like

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Speaker 6: it when I say this, but you know, Notre Dame

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Speaker 6: put it on USC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they did, right, Yeah they did.

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Speaker 5: I'm a huge you know, Notre name is my team.

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Speaker 5: You know that.

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Speaker 6: And I know a lot of people don't like me

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Speaker 6: now because I said that. But you know what, too bad?

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Speaker 5: I like. I like Notre Dame. I always have.

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Speaker 6: And uh, same thing with him? How many how many

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Speaker 6: times did they get called for passing it for seven?

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Speaker 6: Was it seven times? I think so because he's not

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Speaker 6: looking at the ball looking you're just playing the defender.

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Speaker 6: It's it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, is Notre Dame ruining college football like the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: are ruining baseball? Yes, that is the narrative now in

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Speaker 2: baseball that the Dodgers are the big, bad, ugly team

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Speaker 2: from Los Angeles and ruining the sports of baseball and

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Speaker 2: going to lead it to a lockout in another year

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Speaker 2: or so, and they're the reason why baseball is failing.

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Speaker 2: Here's the manager Dave Roberts on the podium, national audience

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Speaker 2: and let it be known. They're the big bad Wolves.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 7: Before this season started, they said the Dodgers are ruining baseball.

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Speaker 8: Let's get four more wins and really ruin baseball.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, Yeah, let's go. Let's go ruin baseball. And

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Speaker 2: I love what Dave Roberts had to say, because clearly,

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Speaker 2: clearly they are hearing that over at the Dodgers. Andy

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Speaker 2: Freeman kind of joked about it and in a way

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Speaker 2: that he wasn't too happy about when he was on

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Speaker 2: with Petro Some Money as well on Friday, when asked

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Speaker 2: about the narrative that they are ruining baseball, Dave Roberts

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Speaker 2: certainly brought that up and said, let's go ruin it

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Speaker 2: with four more wins. It's it's laughable to me, Steve,

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Speaker 2: that people want to look at the Dodgers and point

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Speaker 2: the finger and say they they right there in Dodger

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Speaker 2: blue pantone right there, they are the reason why baseball

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Speaker 2: is going to fail, and they are the reason why

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Speaker 2: they are ruining the sport. It's laughable they point the

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Speaker 2: finger at the Dodgers. Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know what they really should say is the truth

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Speaker 6: that so many people are jealous of the Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: That's what it is.

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Speaker 6: They're jealous that they they they pay money. They're jealous

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Speaker 6: that they play good. They're jealous that they scout. Well,

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Speaker 6: look at you could have went out and got Max Muncie.

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Speaker 6: Somebody else could have drafted, you know, Mookie Bets or

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Speaker 6: or I mean, I mean acquired Mookie Bets. Other people

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Speaker 6: could have drafted players. He could have gone out and

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Speaker 6: acquired O'tani like the Angels did it, and we had

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Speaker 6: I mean, it isn't like they just go out and

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Speaker 6: you know, it happens that way. Look at the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: scouting system. How about their farm system. I mean, why

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Speaker 6: do they get Rookies of the Year all the time,

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Speaker 6: because they train them well in the minor leagues when

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Speaker 6: they come up their impact players, they're not just kind

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Speaker 6: of learning on the fly. So the thing is they're

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Speaker 6: just jealous of the Dodgers. That's the reason why. I mean,

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Speaker 6: look at the Padres enormous payroll. How about the New

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Speaker 6: York Mets enormous payroll. How they do this year? I

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Speaker 6: mean they're not in postseason. Mets never even made it

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Speaker 6: Padres did. But they're out pretty quick, all right. So

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Speaker 6: so how do you how do you say the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: are ruining baseball? I don't get it. It's not it's

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Speaker 6: not true at all. This is this is a you know,

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Speaker 6: this is a free and open type of work environment

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Speaker 6: that we have in baseball.

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Speaker 5: It's called capitalism.

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Speaker 6: And if you have the money to spend and you

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Speaker 6: can go out and do it, spend it just the

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Speaker 6: way you want. That's what capitalism is. So get off

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Speaker 6: our back, and you know, if you don't love it,

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Speaker 6: then just learn to live with it.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers reinvest their money onto the on field product

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Speaker 2: better than anybody in baseball, and you can make an argument,

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Speaker 2: better than anybody in professional sports. They invest money into

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Speaker 2: their system, They invest money into their ecosystem as far

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Speaker 2: as the organization and top to bottom, making sure they

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Speaker 2: are running the best. Now you think about the product

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Speaker 2: on the field at the major league level, you think

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Speaker 2: about the current roster and where these guys all came from. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: baseball would look different if the Pittsburgh Pirates didn't trade

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Speaker 2: Tyler Glassan Now to the Tampa Bay Rays and then

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Speaker 2: didn't want the Rays didn't want to sign them again

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Speaker 2: to a long term deal. It looked a lot different

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Speaker 2: if the Tampa Bay Rays actually signed Blake Snell, one

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Speaker 2: of the best pitchers in baseball, to a long term deal.

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Speaker 2: Baseball would look different if the Boston Red Sox could

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Speaker 2: have agreed to a long term deal with Mookie Betts

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Speaker 2: instead said nope, We're gonna rate for Rafiel Devers and

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Speaker 2: other guys and pay them, but we're gonna trade away

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Speaker 2: Mookie Betts to the Dodgers. Oh yeah, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: they waited six years because initially show Hey Otani did

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Speaker 2: not choose them. He chose poorly first and went to

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Speaker 2: the Angels for six years and now he's a member

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Speaker 2: of the Dodgers. Freddie Freeman's just not Freddie Freeman just

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Speaker 2: wasn't a free agent And did oh, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I want to ditch the Braves and run to LA

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Speaker 2: and join a superpower. No, no, no, no, no no. He wanted

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Speaker 2: to stay with the Atlanta Braves. He wanted to stay

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Speaker 2: there and play for the team that drafted him and

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Speaker 2: he won a World Series. They were the organization that

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Speaker 2: strung him along during the offseason, wouldn't commit to him,

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Speaker 2: and then instead decided Matt Olsen is who they wanted

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Speaker 2: playing first base instead of Freddie Freeman. So Freddie Freeman

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Speaker 2: elected to go back home to southern California and took

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Speaker 2: less money to come to the Dodgers. All these things

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Speaker 2: happened not because the Dodgers of the Big Bad Wolf

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Speaker 2: and ruining baseball and just like pac Man, gobbling up

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Speaker 2: every free agent and overpaying them and paying them like

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Speaker 2: nobody else can and have these unlimited pockets to pay everybody. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: They are simply taking advantage of the market because other

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Speaker 2: teams and other owners refuse to pay their players, refuse

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Speaker 2: to want to take care of them, guys they have

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Speaker 2: brought up in their system. All right, you don't want

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Speaker 2: to pay Mooki Bets, trade them away. The Dodgers will

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Speaker 2: simply say, thank you, We'll trade you alex Erdugo and

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Speaker 2: other prospects for Mookie Bets and then sign them to

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Speaker 2: a long term deal. They take care of players. They

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Speaker 2: go out and bring in the talent the other teams

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Speaker 2: don't want to spend money on, and I credit the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers for being the team that does that. You can't

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Speaker 2: fault them for going out and make these moves. They're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not. It's not.

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Speaker 6: There's no question about that, you know. And the team

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Speaker 5: That's a that's a great way.

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Speaker 5: Having having the young guys come up.

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Speaker 2: Here is manager Dave Roberts, who was asked about this

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Speaker 8: There's always critics. Yeah, I think that we're in a

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Speaker 2: All Right, there's a manager, Dave Roberts, and at some

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Speaker 5: Seems to be like there's nothing but Dodger fans there.

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Speaker 2: Right eight sixty six, nine eighty seven, two five seventy

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Speaker 4: Pretty good man, Good morning. How you guys doing?

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Speaker 5: Happy Monday.

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Speaker 2: Happy Monday to you, Andre.

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Speaker 3: Great question, Just a quick question regarding Roki. What do

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Speaker 2: Oh, Andre, he does have a walkout song? Is it's

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Speaker 5: So we'll see. What would your walkout Soundbie, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Something with the beat, something that gets people excited, something

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Speaker 5: Yeah, mine would be some classical.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a song that Roki Sasaki comes out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got the walkout song. Mike and l A.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning man. Kate's man, he's fired up. Dude.

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Speaker 3: You know you're you're ruining sports talk for everyone out there,

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Speaker 3: I think people complaining all these teams complaining about the Dodgers,

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Speaker 3: I liked how you brought up between performances and I

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Speaker 3: think you said moments to me. The performance okay with Otani,

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Speaker 3: but moment that's like an onion layer right there, because

437
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Speaker 3: you got to think about everything, the totality of the thing,

438
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Speaker 3: the magnitude you had, Gibson, who the Dodgers. They weren't

439
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Speaker 3: favored at all. You know, Gibson was coming in hurt.

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Speaker 3: You got to look at all these different layers of

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Speaker 3: that game. But with Freddie he hits the first Grand

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Speaker 3: Slam ever in World Series history. So I mean, it's

443
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Speaker 3: so hard to decide which is better, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: really hard. But yeah, I encourage people go read that

445
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Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated articles and you'll see, you know, and Dodgers

446
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 3: aren't ruining anything.

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Speaker 5: No, they're not.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the phone call, Thanks for the nice words.

449
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Speaker 2: I would love to be compared to the Dodgers of

450
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Speaker 2: sports talk radio ruining everybody else and what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: That's that's that's the target on your back you're gonna

452
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 6: get when you're when you're the elite team. You know,

453
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Speaker 6: it's it's it's it's out of jealousy. I think they Man,

454
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Speaker 6: they spend all that money and it works. They groom

455
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Speaker 6: those guys in the in the minor leagues and it works.

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Speaker 6: Uh man, they've been in the post the postseason, but

457
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Speaker 6: thirteen years in a row. They're fourteen years in a row.

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Speaker 5: It works. So they're they're they're jealous that they're successful.

459
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Speaker 5: They want to knock you down.

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Speaker 2: The only way I would ever agree with the whole well,

461
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers are bad for baseball. They're ruining baseball. If

462
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Speaker 2: this were the case, and hear me out, if this

463
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Speaker 2: were the case, if when these guys were hitting free

464
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Speaker 2: agency and we're talking about bats and Freeman and Otani

465
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Speaker 2: and all these guys were talking about Blake Snell and

466
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Speaker 2: they just had so much money that they threw at

467
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Speaker 2: these players and it was way more than their hometown

468
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: team or the current team that they were on could

469
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Speaker 2: even dream of throwing at them, and tried to sign them.

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Speaker 2: Then okay, yeah, the big bad Dodgers come in with

471
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Speaker 2: their paid you know, their checkbook and just writing checks

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Speaker 2: for all these players. But it's not the case. These

473
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Speaker 2: are guys who were not wanted by teams, traded away

474
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Speaker 2: by teams. Their teams, you know, felt like they couldn't

475
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Speaker 2: afford them, so they're gonna go somewhere else. And Blake

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Speaker 2: Snell didn't run. He didn't run to the Dodgers, folks.

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Speaker 2: He didn't run from Tampa to the Dodgers. Just give

478
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Speaker 2: me the money. I want to take the money. He

479
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: went to San Diego, he went to San Francisco, and

480
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Speaker 2: his third stop after leaving the Tampa Bay Rays is

481
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Speaker 2: with the Dodgers because he wants a championship and he

482
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Speaker 2: wants to win finally after Cy Young Awards. It's not

483
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Speaker 2: the case. It's not like they're just sitting there and saying, Okay,

484
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Speaker 2: well we got more money than you. Here's a blank check, Otani,

485
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: here's a blank check. Blake Snell, here's a blank check.

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Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman. They're not doing it. They're going out making trades,

487
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Speaker 2: wiring these guys via that way, then re upping these

488
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Speaker 2: guys to contract extensions. I mean again, Freddie Freeman wanted

489
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Speaker 2: to stay in the Atlanta Braves uniform. He wanted to

490
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Speaker 2: stay there. They did not want him. They let him

491
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Speaker 2: linger during COVID and said, all right, we don't know,

492
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Speaker 2: we don't know. Yeah, you know, you're not in our plans.

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Speaker 2: So he signed with the Dodgers because they went and

494
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Speaker 2: got Matt Olson and and they signed They signed Max

495
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Speaker 2: Munsey off the scrap heap. Yes, when he when he

496
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Speaker 2: was with the with Oakland right when with the Oakland age. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And and so I mean there's there's a lot of

498
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Speaker 2: different things you can be innovative to recognize the talent.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they don't just go out and sign for

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Speaker 2: you know, the highest paid free agent.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't. It doesn't happen that way.

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Speaker 2: Oh but they got tay Oscar. Wait a second. Ta

503
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Speaker 2: Oscar Hernandez signed a one year deal last year, betting

504
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Speaker 2: on himself that he would have a great offensive season.

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Speaker 2: He did and actually probably from what we understood, took

506
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Speaker 2: less money to come back to the Dodgers. There was

507
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Speaker 2: reports that the Blue Jays and the Red Sox were

508
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Speaker 2: offered him more, more money and more years to go

509
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Speaker 2: there in the offseason. He led it to come back

510
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Speaker 2: to the Dodgers. Will Smith drafted by the Dodgers. Uh

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00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: Andy Pajez signed his an international free agent and brought

512
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Speaker 2: in by the Dodgers. I mean, Anthony Bonda was on

513
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Speaker 2: the scrap heaps with seven other teams, and now that

514
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: he's found his home in the Dodger uniform. Oh worthy

515
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Speaker 2: of getting all these relievers from Uh. They're developing him

516
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Speaker 2: because nobody else can. They're better than you. They're just

517
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Speaker 2: fled out better than you.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Eight six six nine eighty seven two five said we'll

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Speaker 2: come back more of your phone calls. This narrative is stupid.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers ruining baseball and I'm tired of it. Eight

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Speaker 2: six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. Also coming up,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants hiring a college coach. Really, what what

524
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Speaker 2: what we'll get into that David Vassa, Whether he likes

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Speaker 2: it or not, it's coming on with us. Top of

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Speaker 2: the hour eight and sixty six nine eighty seven, two

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Speaker 2: five seventy Steve Sacks, Tim Kats and you bright and

528
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Speaker 2: early on this Monday morning on an FI seventy ice sports.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers are not ruining baseball, but they are dominating baseball

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Speaker 2: with a four to zero sweep over the Milwaukee Brewers.

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Speaker 2: And now they await the winner of the Mariners and

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, and the Als has to see who

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Speaker 2: they'll face in the World Series. Tim Kait Steve Saxon

534
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Speaker 2: to you on this Monday morning. Saxon kates at the

535
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Speaker 2: AM all October long during the Dodgers playoff run, and

536
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Speaker 2: for the second straight October, we will be going deep

537
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Speaker 2: into October as they have won the wild Card round

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Speaker 2: the NLDS against the Phillies four games sweep against the

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers, the best team in baseball during the regular season,

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Speaker 2: and now they're going back to the World Series. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into the Mariners and Blue Jays coming up in

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Speaker 2: just a little bit. I'm just watching Mark de Rosa

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Speaker 2: on the MLB Networks Saxy break down Otani's performance on

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Speaker 2: the mound. Okay, just on the mound Friday night. What

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Speaker 2: is the greatest performance ever in baseball history. And they

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00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: should have won it? Bad in the first ending where

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Speaker 2: he struck out the side fastball ninety nine, tailing in

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Speaker 2: on a right handed hit or okay, strike one. Strike

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Speaker 2: two is a curveball and he gets the guy to

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00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: swing and miss over the top of it. The third

551
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 2: pitch is a sweeper even further outside the zone but

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00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: sort of look the same coming out of the arm

553
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: and the swinger and then the batter had no chance

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Speaker 2: of swinging at it. And it's the setup. It's ninety

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00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: nine in curveball or swing over the top. And then

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Speaker 2: the third pitch is a Ausby pitch even a little

557
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Speaker 2: bit further off the plate, and your eye is telling

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Speaker 2: you one thing and you just cannot get to it.

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Speaker 2: It just masterful, masterful pitching by that showy.

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Speaker 6: And you haven't mentioned the splitter no exactly, which is

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Speaker 6: maybe his most dominant wipeout pitch if you will. And

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Speaker 6: like you said, Tim, you're exactly right.

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Speaker 5: You're on it.

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Speaker 6: When you're talking about the I sees what's the eye

565
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 6: kind of thinks it sees something else that's actually coming

566
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Speaker 6: up there. And that's what you do when you change

567
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Speaker 6: the eye angle of the hitter and you constantly move

568
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 6: that up and down, in and out. That's why they

569
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Speaker 6: talk about pitch to four quadrants of the plate, and

570
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Speaker 6: the hitter really can't decipher, especially when the ball's up

571
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Speaker 6: because the pitch is closer to your eyes and you

572
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 6: can see that pitch better. That's why guys that offer it.

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Speaker 6: That pitch they think it's leighter high, but it's not.

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Speaker 6: It's more like over your head or you know, eye level.

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Speaker 6: And then they drop the other pitch on you, which is,

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Speaker 6: you know, well, plays fastball down in the zone, or

577
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Speaker 6: a sinker coming into you, or a splitter that looks

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Speaker 6: like a fastball, and then it just disappears. Those are

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Speaker 6: the reasons why your eyes can't decipher the difference in

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Speaker 6: large part, and that's why you see these guys flailing

581
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Speaker 6: offering it pitches that are way out of the zone,

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Speaker 6: and you scratch your head and say, isn't this a

583
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Speaker 6: major league hitter?

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Speaker 5: How come these.

585
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Speaker 6: Guys well, because the pitchers are that good and they

586
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 6: can fool you. They can fool your eyes. Your eyes

587
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: see something, but in reality, it's really something else.

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Speaker 2: On the flip side, watching all three of showy Otani's

589
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: home runs back the fact that they still pitched to him.

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Speaker 2: In the second and third home runs by the way

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Speaker 2: they did. I mean the three to one pitch, they

592
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: threw a cookie down the middle and he crushed it

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Speaker 2: out of the Dodger Stadium right field pavilion. The third

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Speaker 2: home run was a one to two pitch in the

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Speaker 2: sixth inning in which or seventh inning in which the

596
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: guy tried to get a ninety nine mile an hour

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Speaker 2: fastball by him on the inner half of the plate

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Speaker 2: and Otani hits it to left center field for a

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Speaker 2: home run. I don't understand, if the guy's already taking

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Speaker 2: you deep twice in a game, why you're even pitching

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Speaker 2: anywhere near the strike zone to this guy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I would unintentionally walk the guy by just throwing four

603
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Speaker 2: pitches nowhere close and just hope that he swings out

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Speaker 2: one of them. If not, you walk the guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And here's the advant Jotani has over most people, and

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Speaker 6: I would put Aaron Judge in that in that department

608
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Speaker 6: as well, is these guys can be wrong, uh you know,

609
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Speaker 6: in in maybe their connection, maybe not an approach, but uh,

610
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Speaker 6: they can be wrong when they make contact and not

611
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Speaker 6: be right perfect. Like most people have to be hit

612
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Speaker 6: a home run, Judge and Otani don't have to be

613
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Speaker 6: They can be off a bit. And what is a

614
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Speaker 6: pop up to second base or short right field for

615
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Speaker 6: you and me is uh, you know, it's it's way

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Speaker 6: back in the pavilion. For these guys, it's it's almost

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Speaker 6: not fair. But that's what you got, that's what what

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Speaker 6: what they have. And and uh so pitchers sometimes think, well,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm not gonna give anything to hit, I'll

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Speaker 6: pitch around.

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Speaker 5: They still hit a home run.

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Speaker 6: And and so you just got to say, you know,

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Speaker 6: put up four fingers and say just walk down there, guy,

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Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not even pitching to you.

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Speaker 2: Show Hey, Otani, you're an LCS MVP. The greatest performance

626
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Speaker 2: ever in BA small history, not the greatest moment in

627
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: Dodger history. Dodgers ruining baseball. That's the narrative that they

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00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: want you to believe around the country. Andrew in Torrance,

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Speaker 2: thanks for being patient. You're always sax kate today and

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Speaker 2: how you and Andrew doing good?

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Speaker 7: One thing guys. Yeah, So the narrative about dodgern baseball,

632
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 7: it's it's ridiculous because, like you guys have said, any owner,

633
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 7: you know, these guys are all billionaires. They can invest

634
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 7: in the team. And you think about the Dodgers, you

635
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 7: know they see the payroll. But took them flying families

636
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 7: across the country for one hundred and two games across

637
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 7: the postseason, having two planes. No other teams doing that.

638
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 7: And then you also think about the infrastructure, the amount

639
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 7: of scouts. What other team is renovating the opposing team's

640
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 7: clubhouse to make it die right, you know, they're they're

641
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 7: luring players here and they see like the Dodgers are

642
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 7: even investing against the teams that are playing them. You know,

643
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 7: it's it's really laughable. Like you guys have said that

644
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 7: they're ruining baseball. All these guys are billionaires. Anyone can

645
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 7: hire the best scouts, hire the best trainers, have the

646
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 7: best nutrition. This is just stuff that all the Dodgers

647
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 7: do that other teams are just mad that why aren't

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Speaker 7: they doing it?

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, exactly, Andrew. And the fact that Baseball

650
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: even stepped in years ago and said, with this luxury tax,

651
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: we're gonna take that money that the big dogs are spending.

652
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: And you guys are crying about they're spending too much,

653
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna tax them and we're gonna give that money

654
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: back to you owners who are crying that you don't

655
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: have the money. Well, there's no excuses anymore. You're getting money.

656
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: You're getting a check for millions every year from Major

657
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: League Baseball. And the fact that you don't reinvest that properly.

658
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: That's on you. Hey, hey, I don't sign the right guys,

659
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: that's on you.

660
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to interject this too.

661
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 6: Is that part of the last uh uh, you know,

662
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 6: the uh, the players agreement with the owners is that

663
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 6: they they have to invest a certain amount of money

664
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Speaker 6: back in the team. If they're gonna collect, you know, money,

665
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 6: they have to they have to invest a certain amount

666
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 6: of the money that back into the team and I'll

667
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 6: just pocket it. So that was kind of a good

668
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 6: thing that was that was brought up in the last agreement.

669
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 6: I think going forward in this next agreement that's gonna

670
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 6: happen in twenty seven. Uh, we'll have to wait to

671
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 6: be seen. I don't know if there's gonna be what

672
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 6: the andie's gonna be, if there's gonna be a certain

673
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: amount that they have to develop. I think there's they're

674
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 6: also talk about a cap. Maybe there's gonna be a

675
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: salary cap.

676
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 8: Now.

677
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 6: I don't think the Player Association is gonna go for that,

678
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 6: but that's kind of where things are in that Yeah,

679
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 6: you know, in that realm right now, is there's gonna

680
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 6: be some sticking points as far as that money.

681
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 5: That money that's that's stoled out.

682
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: Jake and Burbank they should being paid to. You're next

683
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: up with sax of Kates on a f I seventy

684
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: l A Sports. How you doing, Jake.

685
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 4: Good? How you guys doing so? I got a not

686
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: too But let me get through it explanation of what

687
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: I think should happen now. First of all, I don't

688
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: think the Dodgers are ruining baseball. Second of all, to

689
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: minimize just how much of an advantage they have, I

690
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: think it's a little disingenuous. Guys, you know they have

691
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: huge advantages, just like the Mets do. Who I root for,

692
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: the Yankees, etc. So here's what baseball needs to do.

693
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: They set up, and this was kind of floated a

694
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: few years back, but they set up a top division.

695
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: That's the major markets. Take the top fourteen teams. Then

696
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 4: you take the next ten teams, and then you take

697
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: the last six teams, and you have three different divisions.

698
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: The top one is all the major markets. They spend

699
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: whatever they want. The only thing they have is the

700
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: salary floor. The second tier, the medium markets, have a

701
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: salary cap that's equal to the high team high market floor,

702
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 4: and then they have their own salary floor, and the

703
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 4: bottom ones are those teams that don't want to spend

704
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 4: money and don't have a lot of money to spend.

705
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 4: And they say, you have a salary cap that it's

706
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: the floor of the media markets, and below that you

707
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: have your own salary floor for you. So you have

708
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: three distinct sets. Now you don't share money like you

709
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 4: do now, so they don't get all this extra tax

710
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: money or nearly as much revenue sharing as they're getting

711
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: by not spending. But here's the advantage too. The top,

712
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: the higher market bracket, gets seven of the twelve playoff spots,

713
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: the middle or sorry, eight of the playoff spots, the

714
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: medium bracket gets three of the playoff spots, and the

715
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: bottom bracket gets just one. So all those drag teams

716
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: whose owners don't want to spend, they can still play

717
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 4: for stuff. They still get money, fans still want to

718
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: come see because they're not win a Pennant race every year.

719
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: The medium's the same, and the large ones all have

720
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: their advantages and can go to board with all those things.

721
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: The players get their money, the owners get more butts

722
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 4: and seats, they get more paying attention to people, They

723
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: make more money. You don't change the contracts in terms

724
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: of everything else. Because you do your basic revenue sharing,

725
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 4: everybody wins. Why won't this work?

726
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot of Jake, That's very confusing. I was

727
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: lost after a little bit of his explanation there, Steve Sacks,

728
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: and my pushback would be, that's never gonna work. That's

729
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: never gonna happen. And third and foremost, if if they

730
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: were even sniffs of doing this, if I were a player,

731
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: I would sign one or two year deals if the

732
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: lower two tiers what he was talking about in hopes

733
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: that one day I produce enough that I get signed

734
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: by a top tier two. This is ridiculous. I don't

735
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: even know why I'm addressing it. That that's never gonna happen.

736
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 6: Steve, Yeah, I mean you can tell you it's a

737
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 6: well thought out plan. I mean he put the he

738
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 6: put the work in to think that out. It's not

739
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 6: gonna work. I mean, you're not gonna have a set

740
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 6: of rules that's different from one set against the other set.

741
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 6: The bottom tier teams, you know, they think we're gonna

742
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 6: get one one per one team in there. That that

743
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 6: won't work. It's got to be wide open.

744
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: So I'm not sure what the what.

745
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 6: The rules are going to be. I don't think the

746
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: player are gonna go for a salary cap. But that's

747
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 6: where it is right now. And we see the standoff before.

748
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 6: We saw it when I saw it plenty when I

749
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 6: was playing, and that's it's like the rules haven't changed.

750
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: Eight six sixty nine eighty seven two five seven. We'll

751
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: continue with your phone calls when we come back. A

752
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: team in baseball is looking to hire a college coach.

753
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: Come on, is this gonna work? We'll get into it.

754
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: We'll also get into Mariners and Blue Jays. Who's a

755
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: better fit for the Dodgers coming out of the ALCS

756
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: Game seven tonight, Sax and Kates in the am, Thanks

757
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: for being with us on this Monday morning. Is the

758
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: countdown to the twenty twenty five World Series begins Steve Sacks,

759
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Tim Kates and you on a Monday morning as we

760
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: await the winner of Game seven and the ALCS tonight

761
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: in Toronto to see who the Dodgers will be facing

762
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: in the upcoming World Series. Game one is on Friday.

763
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: Will it be a Dodger stadium we'll find out or

764
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: will it be in Toronto? We'll all find out tonight

765
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: at the Rogers Center in Toronto as the Blue Jays

766
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: take on the Mariners in the decisive Game seven. Big

767
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: news in San Francisco Steve sacks. The San Francisco Giants

768
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: and their manager Buster Posey reportedly are narrowing in on

769
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: their search for a new manager to replace Bob Melvin,

770
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: and that guy could be Tennessee head coach Tony Vottello. Yes,

771
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: they could be going to the collegiate rakes and hire

772
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: the Valls head coach to replace Bob Melvin and take

773
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: over the vacant position with the San Francisco Giants now

774
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: a portly Vattello met with his team over the weekend

775
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: after a scrimmage and said they are talking and that

776
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: if he did leave, he'd be the first one to

777
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: tell them. There are certainly numerous reports that they are

778
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: narrowing in on a possible deal by Hobbard. No deal

779
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 2: is in place as of yet. What do you make

780
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: of the San Francisco Giants dipping down to the collegiate

781
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: level and what would be the first time ever a

782
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: college baseball coach goes directly to the big leagues as

783
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: a manager.

784
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 6: Okay, so to be fair about everything, I mean they

785
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 6: do it. They do it in football, right, they go

786
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 6: from college to the pro ranks.

787
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 5: They do that. We know that.

788
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 6: Never seen it happen in baseball, as you pointed out,

789
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 6: be the first time. I'm I don't know who who

790
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 6: mister Vtello is. I'm sure he's a pretty good coach

791
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 6: at Tennessee, but I don't know much about him. I

792
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 6: know baseball is a very very traditional, uh, very incestuous,

793
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 6: uh you know, type of of a sport where you know,

794
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 6: they they like to have their own people there. They

795
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 6: they know people, they've been tried, they've been tested, they've

796
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 6: come up in the minor leagues. They've either played a

797
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 6: lot in the minor leagues or have been uh you know,

798
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 6: with a professional team for a while, so they they

799
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 6: know a lot about the personality of the person too.

800
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 6: And so I I think so much criteria goes into

801
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 6: the person part of being a major league manager. We

802
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 6: all know the x's and o's on the field. If

803
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 6: you've been around the game, you got a bench coach there.

804
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 6: In case you have your own ideas and you're gonna

805
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 6: screw something up, you've got some backup there. So it's

806
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 6: not that it's more of the person part of the game.

807
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 6: I think that that really hires and fires, you know, managers.

808
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 6: Oh you lost the locker room, You're gonna fire you real, Okay,

809
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 6: So that's that's the.

810
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 5: Kind of thing that's it's more of anything else.

811
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 6: So I don't know mister Vittel if he's got you know,

812
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 6: ties to Buster Posey and you know back there. I

813
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 6: know Buster's from Georgia. I don't know what the ties are,

814
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 6: but you know.

815
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: We'll see.

816
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 6: I'm a very traditional person as well.

817
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 5: I'm old school, so you know, I guess the jury

818
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 5: is out on that.

819
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: It's definitely zigging when everybody else is zagging, so to speak,

820
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: and going against what has been the norm in hiring

821
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: long established minor league coaches, bench coaches, assistant coaches and

822
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: promoting them to managers at the big league level. The

823
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: only thing that's parable is Pat Murphy, I guess with

824
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers. I mean, he's spent twenty five years

825
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: coaching college baseball, most notably a Notre dame in Arizona State,

826
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: coached a little bit and managed in the minor leagues,

827
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: was an advisor with the Padres, finally became a bench

828
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: coach with the Brewers to kind of help Craig Council

829
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: make that change from player to manager. And then when

830
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: Council left, he took over the last two years as

831
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: the manager of the Milwaukee Brewers. I mean, this literally

832
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: has just never happened before. Grabbing a coach from the

833
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: collegiate ranks. He's been successful. He's won a College Baseball

834
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: World Series at Tennessee. Since taking over, He's brought back

835
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: that program to the national prominence. He's got a ton

836
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 2: of guys that have been drafted and are now starting

837
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: to pop up in the major League. Since taking over,

838
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: they've got three College World Series appearances since twenty seventeen.

839
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean, certainly he's been very, very successful at the

840
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: college level. And for Buster Posey, this would certainly be

841
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: a big swing. A young general manager and it beloved

842
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: San Francisco Giant, This would be a huge swing for

843
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: him to see if he can get it to work

844
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: and if they can get it to work in San Francisco,

845
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: and this could be successful. This could be that new

846
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: tread now in baseball, because as I always talk about it,

847
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: it's a copycat.

848
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 6: League and there's there's so many, you know, new things

849
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 6: coming on new rules and whatnot, new ways of marketing,

850
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 6: et cetera. As far as Major League Baseball, it's almost

851
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 6: in flux. Is if you look at the you know,

852
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 6: the whole spectrum of baseball and how it works. Now,

853
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 6: a lot of things are changing in baseball. Maybe, as

854
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 6: you said, maybe this is one of those things that change.

855
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 6: The question I have is when you have a a

856
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 6: stalwart on a team that's been there and done that,

857
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 6: that's headed to the Hall of Fame, and the team

858
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 6: is sinking down and you're all looking to your manager

859
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 6: for some guidance and he's not able to cut it

860
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: because he doesn't have the experience of even playing professional

861
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 6: baseball or let alone being around professional baseball. It's a different,

862
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 6: different game than what So that's probably one of the

863
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Speaker 6: questions that I would have. You know, a pitcher that's

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Speaker 6: been around, say for you know, many many years, and

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Speaker 6: he's really good, but team's going down, he's having troubles,

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Speaker 6: and he's wondering, Now where that leadership comes from. Is

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Speaker 6: going to come from a college coach that's never played

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Speaker 6: professional baseball. Well that's the question that will be answered,

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Speaker 6: I guess if he is hired.

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Speaker 2: I mean college baseball season, you know, goes from February

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Speaker 2: to late June. If you're making the College Baseball World Series,

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00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: you're playing anywhere between fifty and seventy games. If you

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Speaker 2: make it all the way to the College Baseball World

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Speaker 2: Series in Omaha, that's a that's not a lot compared

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Speaker 2: to one hundred and sixty two game season and the

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Speaker 2: grind of a major league baseball season. I think that,

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Speaker 2: to me is the first thing that sticks out, And

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Speaker 2: all the things you just alluded to as well are

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Speaker 2: also factors and can be successful as a manager at

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Speaker 2: the big league level. Why don't we see this, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's the question. You see it in college football, you

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Speaker 2: see it in college basketball. Is it because in baseball

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Speaker 2: there's so many levels to get to the top, unlike football,

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Speaker 2: where you get drafted or you're a coach and there's

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Speaker 2: one stop. There's college and there's the NFL. In basketball,

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Speaker 2: there's college and then there's the NBA. There's not really

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Speaker 2: anything in between for you to go play and learn,

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Speaker 2: I mean outside the G League. But in baseball there's

889
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: that whole level rookie ball to TRIPAA before you even

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Speaker 2: get to the major leagues that you have to work

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Speaker 2: your way through.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, football and basketball don't have minor leagues. College is

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Speaker 6: the minor leagues for the basketball in football baseball course,

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Speaker 6: it's very very traditional. It's rigorous going through the minors.

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Speaker 6: The bus trips, the price that you pay, the places

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Speaker 6: that you stay.

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Speaker 5: My meal money my first year when I was on

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Speaker 5: Lethbridge three dollars.

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Speaker 6: And fifty cents a day. The next day was next

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Speaker 6: year it was six dollars. I mean, I'm sure it's

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Speaker 6: better than that now, but you get an idea of

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Speaker 6: what the minor leagues is like. Twenty hour bus trips,

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Speaker 6: et cetera. Not easy, but we'll see. I mean, no

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Speaker 6: minor leagues in football and basketball. Now, that's why it's

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Speaker 6: from there to the big Show.

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Speaker 2: I know it's only a movie, but in my mind,

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Speaker 2: I Pitcher Moneyball and the way Brad Pitt's character shuffled

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Speaker 2: things up with the A's and how it ruffled a

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Speaker 2: lot of feathers and old timers and guys who grinded

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Speaker 2: and been around the game, and the scouts. They didn't

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00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: like it and they pushed back, and it was very

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Speaker 2: much dramatized in the movie. I get it, but I

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Speaker 2: think about this, and maybe there's some pushback with the

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Speaker 2: old timers, Guys who have been grinding, guys who have

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Speaker 2: been assistants, guys who have been in the minor leagues

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Speaker 2: as a manager for twenty years. How does this go

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Speaker 2: over with the baseball community.

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Speaker 6: And tim A team like the Dodgers goes to the

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Speaker 6: gamut in postseason, they're gonna play two hundred games, you know,

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Speaker 6: spring training, thirty one, sixty two, and then another you

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Speaker 6: got to win another thirdeen. It's about two in our games.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if the Giants do, in fact pull the

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Speaker 2: trigger and hire a college coach. We'll come back. One

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Speaker 2: more hour to go, Mariners, Blue Jays, your phone calls

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00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: Dodgers ruining baseball, Otani's greatest performance ever. So much to

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Speaker 2: get to. We want you to be a part of

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Speaker 2: the conversation right here on Amphire seventy LA Sports