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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pikes sin see three sixty about Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: from Cincinnati spontered in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by

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Speaker 1: Skyline Chili for a three way or cheese Tony today

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Speaker 1: feeling good? It's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Tony, Hey there, Tony, guess what Tony?

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Speaker 3: It's your birthday. Let's go that.

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Speaker 4: You knew that, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Of course you knew that. Just saye, I forget about it. Birthday, Tony, Yes,

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Speaker 3: lots and lots of cake. Yeah, lots and lots of presents.

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Speaker 2: NDS birthday half half half half beg birthday, Tony, Tony.

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Speaker 5: It's your birthday half birthday, Tony.

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Speaker 3: It's a birthday. And right here and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wowth Tony.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you, candles, my brother, Cake and candles.

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Speaker 3: Is what today is is for forty of them things.

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Speaker 3: Man forty hits different. Man forty that's the same amount

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Speaker 3: of millions that Brian Cook got yesterday. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, god, Lee, you're getting old. Yeah, forty forty

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Speaker 3: hits different. Bones start hurting more than everything. You struggle

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Speaker 3: getting out of bed at all. Everything started hurting today.

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Speaker 3: How many gray hairs do you have? Because pretty good hair? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: five or six. I see coming in on a lot

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Speaker 3: more of that than you. I see him coming in

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Speaker 3: on the side. But man, you feel about that, you know?

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Speaker 6: I do?

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Speaker 3: I feel like you'd be pretty good with silver fox. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I kind of like.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a sense of I don't know, professionalism

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Speaker 7: that comes with it, dignity with a little salt and

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Speaker 7: pepper mixed in there.

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Speaker 3: Come on now, so well, Happy birthday, man, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I purposely didn't tell you Happy birthday this morning because

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Speaker 3: I wanted to do it right now on the air

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Speaker 3: when you can't see me, but you can.

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Speaker 7: Hear me, man, And I mean our group there that

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Speaker 7: that is always nice enough to cut us a rendition

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Speaker 7: of happy birthday. Yes, just always always nice with their time.

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Speaker 3: It's no place I'd rather be right here than to

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Speaker 3: get to talk for three hours about what's going on

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Speaker 3: here locally in sports. And then is if that's not

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Speaker 3: enough of a gift, I get to watch the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Bearcats play one more guaranteed basketball game today. Wow, tomorrow

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Speaker 3: is not promised. Today is so well said Bearcats and

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Speaker 3: the utes three o'clock this afternoon, the same time the

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Speaker 3: Mowagger showill be going on. I don't know how MO

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Speaker 3: will do it today because I would struggle doing that

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Speaker 3: at the same time. Now, I don't know if Tarren

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Speaker 3: has cleared this with Mo, but Arren said yesterday he's

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Speaker 3: gonna stream the whole show. It would be genius. Now,

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Speaker 3: we've put together highlight tapes in the past, yes, and

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Speaker 3: I believe we've had to bleep some of the things

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Speaker 3: that Moe says. Sure, I would imagine Tarran is gonna

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Speaker 3: you'll be able to see Mo's reaction. You probably won't

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Speaker 3: be able to hear it, probably best, probably best looking

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Speaker 3: forward to that as Moe returns from Arizona with a

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Speaker 3: lot of a lot of a lot of stuff still

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Speaker 3: in front of the Bearcats. Yeah, they are set to

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Speaker 3: play Utah today. If they win that, they would play

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Speaker 3: UCF tomorrow at the same time, three o'clock, and then

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Speaker 3: the winner of that will take on the number one

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Speaker 3: seed Arizona Wildcats on on Thursday, if it were to

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Speaker 3: get to that point. So that's where things are for

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bearcats right now. A lot of other college

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Speaker 3: basketball happening. Unfortunately, Austin last night was the final game

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Speaker 3: of the season for Darren Horn's Northern Kentucky Norse. Or

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Speaker 3: can't we like go to the Crown or something? Sure?

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, final game of this of the regular of

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Speaker 3: What regular season? Yeah, twenty and fourteen, yep, like a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a disappointing year. I agree for k

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Speaker 3: did have some injuries, but every team has injuries. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I'll tell you, I'm like these FC Cincinnati fans,

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to grow impatiently, right, three years low, since

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Speaker 3: we've been back to the tournament three years. Speaking of

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Speaker 3: which I saw yesterday some FC Cincinnati fans just given

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Speaker 3: the business to Pat Noonan. Even saw a little bit

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Speaker 3: blamed himself, which, okay, that's fair. Lack of offensive creativity, Okay,

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Speaker 3: getting dispatched the way they did against Enter Miami. I

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Speaker 3: if you are still on the outskirts of the bubble

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Speaker 3: watching for college basketball and the University of Cincinnati bearcatch,

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Speaker 3: you would root for Pittsburgh over Stanford today, and you

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Speaker 3: would want the wake Forest demon Deakins to beat Virginia

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Speaker 3: Tech today in the ACC tournaments. That is just something

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Speaker 3: to keep in mind. We've got a lot to get

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Speaker 3: to today. Day one of legal tampering and the period

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Speaker 3: go well for the Cincinnati Bengals. I would say that

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Speaker 3: from the moment we got off the air until the

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Speaker 3: day ended, it was a red resounding success, I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you for the Bengals. The way that you and Chad

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Speaker 3: Brindle were reacting yesterday as we got off the air,

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Speaker 3: you would have thought that the Bengals had closed up

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Speaker 3: they did for a week. And I tried to tell you,

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Speaker 3: pump the brakes the Bengals are going to sign somebody,

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Speaker 3: and they ended up signing two guys. Two guys many

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Speaker 3: Cook and boy A Mafe. The Bengals are better right

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Speaker 3: now than they were yesterday. Yes at this time yesterday,

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Speaker 3: now they were. I felt like one Devin Lloyd move

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Speaker 3: was rumored, you know, Panthers are in the mix. The

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Speaker 3: Bengals are in the mix. Devin Lloyd, the linebacker from

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Speaker 3: a three year, forty five million dollar deal. So what

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Speaker 3: because I think it was a resounding success based on

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Speaker 3: what this team needed, what they had available to spend,

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Speaker 3: and where this team sits today compared to where they

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Speaker 3: did yesterday. Now, is there work still to be done,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely without a doubt. But yesterday, just as moving on

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Speaker 3: So we'll recap yesterday and then we'll look ahead to today.

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Speaker 3: the players that are still available on the market that

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Speaker 3: that won't make sense for the Cincinnati Bengals Austin is

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. And right now it would appear that Trey

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson's not making sense for a lot of teams across

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Speaker 3: lot of people in this fan base have propped him

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Speaker 3: up to be. He's not a good run defender, he's

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Speaker 3: come in bunches against backup players. Yeah, he was a

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Speaker 3: good player, a really good player for a couple of

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Speaker 3: years with the Bengals, but he's never been the top

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Speaker 3: that thirty thirty five forty million dollars that he wants,

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Speaker 3: especially as a thirty two year old coming off of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it'll be interest to see what happens with Trey

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Speaker 7: Hendrickson today, if anything, and I think it it'd be

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Speaker 7: good Austin to kind of look across the AFC North today.

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Speaker 7: A lot of talk has been made about what the

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Speaker 7: But we'll talk about the Browns, the Ravens, and the

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Speaker 3: We'll get to all of that today.

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Speaker 7: We have sixteen days until Red's opening day, and with

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Speaker 7: the news that we're going to get to in just

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Speaker 7: a moment, there are questions that need to be answered

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Speaker 7: about this team. We'll talk about those questions. And the

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Speaker 7: news of the day is the news of one Hunter

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Speaker 7: Green Austin. It is expected in being reported now by

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Speaker 7: multiple folks. I would push to Charlie Goldsmith as he's

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Speaker 7: our guy who's got this covered from start to finish.

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Speaker 7: But we are being told right now that Hunter Green

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Speaker 7: and that fourteen to sixteen weeks looks to be the timeline.

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Speaker 7: Fourteen to sixteen weeks Austin, that would be what July.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would it would be early July. I think

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Speaker 3: sixteen weeks from now is June thirtieth. So I was

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Speaker 3: Reds have to win that division and division's not going

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Speaker 3: to be easy. Well, eighteen weeks from right now is

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Speaker 3: the MLB All Star Game on July fourteenth. Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: giving Hunter Green an extra two weeks from whenever things

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Speaker 3: timeline that the Reds have established. In that eighteen weeks,

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Speaker 3: the Reds played twenty nine National League Central games, nine

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Speaker 3: he will basically miss twenty starts. If you take the

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Speaker 3: fourteen weeks following that, which would be the sixteen week timeline,

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Speaker 3: that's roughly twenty starts for Hunter Green.

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Speaker 7: You know what, We're gonna spend a lot of time

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Speaker 7: on this today because there was a quote from Charlie's

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Speaker 7: chalkboard today. This was from Terry Francona about the injury

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Speaker 7: last year. He said, Hunter never told me directly any

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Speaker 7: he was pitching. The trainers were never going to send

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Speaker 7: someone out there if they shouldn't pitch or play. Ever,

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Speaker 7: it's hard sometimes if everyone you'd never have a team.

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Speaker 7: You can't see inside people's bodies, it can be a

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Speaker 7: little difficult. And then it was reported today Austin that

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Speaker 7: late in October Hunter Green met with doctor Neil Latrosh,

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Speaker 7: who recommended a PRP injection. Now it's Neil Olatrosh that's

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Speaker 7: now doing the surgery.

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Speaker 3: We finally found out the details. We knew he got

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Speaker 3: an injection yea in October, but how that went about

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Speaker 3: that point exactly. Charlie provided some details that Elatrosh consulted

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Speaker 7: Yes, incredible. We'll keep you updated on that as well

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Speaker 3: as big of an upgrade as you're going to find

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Speaker 3: in free agency.

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Speaker 7: You add both of the players, and you also get

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Speaker 7: Austin what I think is unique for this team, a

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Speaker 7: twenty seven year old in Mafay and a twenty six

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Speaker 7: year old and Brian Cook, two guys that are you

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Speaker 7: could argue, Cook, who comes off his best year as

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Speaker 7: a pro, now enters the prime of his career with

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Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Bengals. If if you were judging this at

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Speaker 7: Audielmore at Tony Underscore Pike fifteen, leave us a talk

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Speaker 7: back here in our number two. We'll talk to Joe

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Speaker 7: Danam at the top of our number two. But in

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Speaker 7: any setting, let us know how you grate out the

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati Bengals for what they did yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Sheer grade wise, Austin, what do you give them? B? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I give him a bee. I think it's a solid B. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think somebody got Lloyd last night.

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Speaker 12: Cool?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I went back this morning and read

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Speaker 3: Paul Daanner Junior's like free agency projections, his predictions, and

452
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Speaker 3: he wrote Brian Cook as an honorable mention because he's

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Speaker 3: like good player, he'll be too expensive. Well, the Bengals

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Speaker 3: pointed up the money eighteen million in year number one.

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Speaker 3: There are some reports out there saying that boy A

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Speaker 3: Mafe is going to get close to twenty million in

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Speaker 3: his first year, which is cash over cap. The way

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Speaker 3: I look at it, right now, the Bengals are about

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Speaker 3: a four hundred or two hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 3: in cap spent so far, and that could get up

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Speaker 3: to another three thirty three twenty all together, especially when

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Speaker 3: you consider linebackers still going to be addressed, defensive line

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Speaker 3: probably still going to be addressed, offensive line probably still

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Speaker 3: going to be addressed, and potential extensions to people like

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Speaker 3: DJ Turner, Dak sil Chase Brown and otherwise. So, and

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Speaker 3: even if they restructure the Borough contract, you would add

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Speaker 3: to that number of cash spent, so you still have

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Speaker 3: space with the cap. And they haven't made any cuts yet,

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Speaker 3: so Orrin Burke's could be cut. TJ. Slayton could be cut,

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Speaker 3: Cody Ford could be cut, and that would open up

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Speaker 3: another ten million dollars or so for the Bengals to

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Speaker 3: get some stuff done. So they still have a lot

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Speaker 3: of flexibility. They still have the ability to fix a

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Speaker 3: lot of the things that they need to fix. And

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Speaker 3: just because they've signed two guys at a pretty decent

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Speaker 3: amount of money, they've structured those contracts, excuse me, in

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Speaker 3: a way that still provides them the ability to keep

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Speaker 3: signing guys. They don't have to quit after two. I

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Speaker 3: give our guy Dan Horde credit. On February twelfth, in

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Speaker 3: the Bengals Booth podcast, he named two players Brian Cook,

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Speaker 3: Boye Mafe.

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Speaker 7: You know my two players he wanted to get. He

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Speaker 7: tweeted out yesterday that he strained his rotator cuff, patting

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Speaker 7: himself on the back.

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Speaker 3: Our buddy, Ricky Chino told me this morning that he

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Speaker 3: was back in the day he was doing something with

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Speaker 3: Dan Horne and Dan Hord and Dan said before the draft,

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Speaker 3: watch out for Giovanni Bernard, and the Bengals went and

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Speaker 3: drafted Giovanni Bernard. So I think the Hall of Famer

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Speaker 3: knows what he's talking about. Comes to the Bengals and

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Speaker 3: the guys that they I in free agency. One more

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Speaker 3: stat here for for you on Boye Mafe last year

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Speaker 3: in terms of Bengals defensive linemen and their pressure rates. TJ.

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Speaker 3: Slayton just six point five percent, BJ Hill just six

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Speaker 3: point nine percent, Shamar Stewart eight point eight percent. Miles

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Speaker 3: Murphy led the team at eleven point three percent. Boy

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Speaker 3: A Mafe last year did it in a thirteen point

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Speaker 3: two percent clip, So he's already coming in as the

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Speaker 3: highest pressure percentage on the Bengals roster at the moment.

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Speaker 3: He's also the only current Bengal to generate five or

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Speaker 3: more pressures with an average time to pressure quicker than

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Speaker 3: three seconds last season. So you got one guy on

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Speaker 3: one end at eleven percent, another guy on the other

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Speaker 3: end at thirteen percent. I think you can mix and match,

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Speaker 3: maybe Shamar Stewart on the inside, maybe BJ Hill on

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Speaker 3: the inside. However you want to do it. Yep, you

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Speaker 3: automatically get your defensive line better against the pass, all right.

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Speaker 7: So that's what the Bengals did yesterday. Mentioned they missed

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Speaker 7: out on Lloyd who went to the Panthers to the

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Speaker 7: linebacker that I thought would have made it a perfect

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Speaker 7: day for the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: But there are still a lot of names out there.

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Speaker 3: There are still names to look out for or to

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Speaker 3: watch for. As today unfolds, we'll catch you up on

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Speaker 3: anything that's happened today, and look at some of those

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Speaker 3: names still out there on the market. When we return

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Speaker 3: on the SPA fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Skyline.

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Speaker 1: Chili, your front row seat to the fierces debates in

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Speaker 1: sports mo Egger today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: How good does this sound? Skyline's welcome back since he

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Speaker 3: three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks

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Speaker 3: to Skyline ChIL, Let us know what you think of

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Speaker 3: day one of legal tampering for the Cincinnati Bengals. As

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Speaker 3: we now turn the page.

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Speaker 7: To day two, a little bit slower start to day two, Austin,

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Speaker 7: I did see Khalif Raymond, formerly of the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 7: kick returner wide receiver, has has a deal in place

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Speaker 7: with the Chicago Bears, So the Bears ad another offensive weapon.

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Speaker 7: Tight End Alton Knox is staying with the Buffalo Bills on.

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Speaker 3: A new three year deal. It's pretty much all that's

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Speaker 3: happened up to this point. As you start to look

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Speaker 3: to today, Now are their names, Austin. Obviously, Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 3: is the top overall name according to a lot of

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Speaker 3: people who are still out there other names Rashid Walker,

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Speaker 3: Braden Smith offensive tackles, Tyreek Wooling, the cornerback, Romeo Dobbs,

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Speaker 3: Juan Jennings, Taylor Decker on the offensive line. Leo Chanel

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Speaker 3: is a linebacker that I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: are now circling as could that be the Bengals target

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Speaker 3: to fill that void? Are there any other names that

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Speaker 3: you're looking for or hoping to hear about today?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I expect them to go after a linebacker.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's necessarily going to be today

544
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Speaker 3: or if that it's something where you know, the pace

545
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Speaker 3: is just kind of slowed down and guys are taking

546
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Speaker 3: in their time and trying to figure out the fits.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think there was a couple of cornerbacks.

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Speaker 3: I think Greg Newsom signed with the Giants, bendem and

549
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Speaker 3: Saint Juice this morning with the Packers. You just mentioned

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Speaker 3: Khalif Rayman. That's basically it so far today in terms

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Speaker 3: of the free agent So yeah, I think the two

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Speaker 3: names a lot of Bengals fans should you pay attention

553
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Speaker 3: to are Leo Chanel, the linebacker formerly of the Chiefs,

554
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Speaker 3: just twenty five years old, and Caden Ellis the linebacker

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Speaker 3: with the Falcons. He's a little bit older, he's thirty

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Speaker 3: one years old. But both of those guys bring a

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Speaker 3: skill set that they're trying to add to the defense

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Speaker 3: that can kind of be the dude that comes off

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Speaker 3: the edge the blitzer a little bit. You know. Al

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Speaker 3: Golden spoke at the combine about asking Demetrius Knight Junior

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Speaker 3: to do that a little bit too much. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: want him to do that that frequently. Well, if you

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Speaker 3: add a linebacker like Ellis, or you add a linebacker

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Speaker 3: like Chanel, you can put them into that role and

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Speaker 3: better use the skill set that you drafted Demetrius Knight for.

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Speaker 3: So for that reason, I think the Bengals will still

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Speaker 3: draft one of those guys, and they have plenty of

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Speaker 3: space to be able to do that.

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Speaker 7: The question I got yesterday and the one that remains

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Speaker 7: is did a move that they made yesterday take away

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Speaker 7: something they could do on draft night? For instance, Caleb

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Speaker 7: Downs is a player that I think since the Bengals

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Speaker 7: were slotted into number ten, that has been a name

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Speaker 7: that you have seen often tied to the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 7: as a position of need and a player that just

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Speaker 7: makes sense because of not only what the Bengals need,

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Speaker 7: but because of how good Caleb Downs is. Does what

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Speaker 7: the Bengals did yesterday change anything about how they may address.

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Speaker 3: Pick number ten? It shouldn't agreed.

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Speaker 7: If you're at ten and Caleb Downs is a guy

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Speaker 7: you've liked and he's still there, regardless if you just

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Speaker 7: paid Brian Cook, I think you still got to take

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Speaker 7: Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially you know the way that those contracts

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, the way that they always go about these

586
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: contracts is there's space on the back end of them

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Speaker 3: for the Bengals to cut ties if they want to.

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00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: That's why they're so front loaded. You get a big

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Speaker 3: signing bonus, you get a decent amount in year number one,

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Speaker 3: and then so on. Now, each of those contracts with

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Speaker 3: Mafe and Cook are different, but yeah, you always want

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Speaker 3: that flexibility. And outside of that, I leave Tyson Anderson's

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Speaker 3: a free agent as well, So you need depth in

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Speaker 3: that position. I think it's at the moment Jordan Battle,

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Speaker 3: Dejon Anthony and Brian Cook. You're gonna need another safety

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Speaker 3: at some point. So either way, I mean, it's obviously incomplete.

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Speaker 3: Right now. You should be in a position where you

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Speaker 3: can take the best player available. I mean, if it's

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Speaker 3: Sunny Styles, it's Sonny Styles. Correct. If it's Ruben Bain,

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Speaker 3: it's Ruben Bain. Either way. Added to a defense in

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Speaker 3: which you can create a rotation, whether that's bringing Caleb

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Speaker 3: Downs in or bringing Brian Cook down into the box

603
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Speaker 3: and putting Caleb Downs over top, or whatever it might be, like,

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Speaker 3: you should create as much versatility as you can with

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Speaker 3: the best players you have. Yeah, I think the main

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00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: thing that I took from yesterday, awesome day, that should

607
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: not deter them from changing their draft strategy up at all.

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Speaker 3: I would maybe if maybe so, maybe if they liked

609
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Speaker 3: Downs a little bit more, but Bain and Downs are there,

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Speaker 3: then I could see, Okay, maybe Bain makes a little

611
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Speaker 3: more sense. But if they go in and address linebacker

612
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Speaker 3: before the draft, if they address linebacker at some point today,

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Speaker 3: I still think you now set yourself up perfectly for

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Speaker 3: the draft and pick number ten. Let's say that they

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Speaker 3: sign Leo Chanel. Let's say that they signed Logan Hall,

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Speaker 3: the defensive tackle from the Buccaneers. Let's say that they

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Speaker 3: sign I don't know, one of the corners, not necessarily

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Speaker 3: one of the top flight guys, but maybe Kobe Durant

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Speaker 3: or you know, one of those types of players. In

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Speaker 3: an ideal world, I might say that means you take

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Speaker 3: an offensive tackle at number ten, Say that would open

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Speaker 3: up tackle, That would open up the idea that you

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Speaker 3: could take the best player, no matter what the position

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Speaker 3: on the board. Right and listen, I have a hard

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Speaker 3: time believing any of the tackles are better players than

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Speaker 3: Sonny Styles and Caleb Downs and Reuben Bain. But but

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Speaker 3: there's a huge question mark with Orlando Brown junior. He

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00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: was fine last year, but he wasn't good enough last year, agreed,

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Speaker 3: And he's getting older. He didn't look like he was

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Speaker 3: in shape at all last year. That I think is

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Speaker 3: an issue that the Bengals are going to have to

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Speaker 3: address with him. And maybe you can light a fire

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Speaker 3: under the guys. But by drafting a tackle in the

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Speaker 3: top ten, all I'm saying is, if you take care

635
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Speaker 3: of what you're supposed to, you can open up the

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Speaker 3: floodgates potentially for the offense at number ten. Yeah, maybe

637
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Speaker 3: James Rapine and Jeremiah Love. I don't know, we'll see it.

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Speaker 3: Just it sets you up in a really, really good spot.

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Speaker 3: We'll take some time today, and I thought what we

640
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: could do is is maybe do a little mock draft

641
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 3: post day one of legal tampering to see how maybe

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00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: that has changed. Also, want to talk about the AFC

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Speaker 3: North and what that means for those teams based on

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Speaker 3: what they did or didn't do yesterday. Before we do

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Speaker 3: any of that, your phone calls next, and then Joe

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Speaker 3: Danaman at the top of our number two on since

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Speaker 3: He three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: See three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back, since He three sixty thanks to Skyline Chiley,

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Speaker 7: we got Joe Dannaman. We're gonna talk about Hunter Green.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna talk about the Cincinnati Bengals. To kick off

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Speaker 7: our number two. Before that, we've got a few minutes.

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Speaker 7: Let's take some phone calls. Let's start in Florence where

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Speaker 7: Mark is standing by.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Mark?

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Speaker 6: I'm just oh, okay, but here, if them two guys

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Speaker 6: help the Bengals win on defense, Okay, fine, it was

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Speaker 6: a good move. But here's what I'm disappointed about. If

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Speaker 6: you gonna throw money at the safety position again, then

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Speaker 6: why didn't you just pay Jesse Bates.

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Speaker 12: Whatever that difference was or the money.

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Speaker 6: That he was asking and what the Bengals wanted to

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Speaker 6: pay for the money that they have spent since they

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Speaker 6: let him walk out the door.

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Speaker 13: They could have just.

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Speaker 3: Paid him the money they have spent.

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Speaker 7: Your I thought yesterday was I think, awesome for the

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Speaker 7: first time saying, you know what, hand up we messed

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Speaker 7: up to Jesse Bates, thing, we're gonna get it right

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Speaker 7: this time exactly.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think before that that's a fair argument because they've

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Speaker 3: tried for years and they've spent more money than what

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Speaker 3: it would have cost to retain Jesse Bates. But I

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Speaker 3: thought yesterday, even with Caleb Downs as a possibility at

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Speaker 3: number ten, I thought that was the Bengals saying, you

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Speaker 3: know what, we're not doing this again. Let's go and

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Speaker 3: let's pay a guy that that we know can play ball.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, okay, say I would have liked to have

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Speaker 6: seen another cornerback or a linebacker because other teams, if

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Speaker 6: you're going into the season with Dax Hill and DJ Turner,

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Speaker 6: other teams are gonna find Dax Hill in cover he

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Speaker 6: can't cover, and the other teams are gonna find that.

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Speaker 6: So I would have liked to have seen that, and

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Speaker 6: maybe a linebacker.

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Speaker 3: They can still sign guys.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, that's fine. The defensive end they signed. Okay,

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Speaker 6: you went out and spent money on him, so that

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Speaker 6: that makes the samar Stewart picked last year a raised.

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Speaker 7: They lost Osai and they lost Hendrickson. They needed to

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Speaker 7: address that multiple times. Anyway, I believe.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, got it on that. One of y'all brought

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Speaker 6: up a point about Orlando Brown. I would if they

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Speaker 6: don't take a left tackle in the first round, I

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Speaker 6: would like to see a left tackle in the second

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Speaker 6: round because I think it's time to start looking at

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Speaker 6: replacing him. I never was on board with that signing

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Speaker 6: in the first place, and then what I saw with

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Speaker 6: him last year, he doesn't anchor that line For the

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Speaker 6: money that they're.

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Speaker 7: Paying, especially for a left tackle, left tackle better be

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Speaker 7: anchoring a lot more. And I feel like with Scott Peters,

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Speaker 7: I saw improvement from a lot of the linemen. It

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Speaker 7: felt like Orlando Brown at the end of the year

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Speaker 7: was kind of the weak link at left tackle, and

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Speaker 7: I think that's troubling.

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Speaker 6: And hopefully if they draft a lineman, they draft a

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Speaker 6: tackle instead of a guard and then making him a

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Speaker 6: tackle because that Dyl un Fairchild guy looks like he'll

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Speaker 6: probably work out. And he was a guard in college

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Speaker 6: and he's a and you know he's a guard in

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Speaker 6: the NFL, then that looks like that'll work. So that

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Speaker 6: was my take on yesterday. Going forward, I would still

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Speaker 6: like to see him take that safety because I just believe,

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Speaker 6: you know, go ahead and draft a safety and try

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Speaker 6: to see if you can develop him into him being

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Speaker 6: as good as Bates was, and then go from there

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Speaker 6: and maybe and maybe see if you can see if

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Speaker 6: you could sign an impact linebacker because I still think

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Speaker 6: they need they still need an impact linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Mark, thank you for the phone call, man. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 7: You know, do you think there is anyone that's gonna

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Speaker 7: be mad Austin if I'm in Game one the back

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Speaker 7: end of their defense is Brian Cook and Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 3: No, I'd be alright with that. Like it's been very

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Speaker 3: well documented on this show and anybody who covers the

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Speaker 3: Bengals how badly the Bengals screwed up. The Jesse Bates thing. Yep, yesterday,

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Speaker 3: as you said, was indicative of them saying, okay, and

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Speaker 3: we're tired of trying to put a band aid over this.

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Speaker 3: We're getting it fixed. And they did it. And yes,

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Speaker 3: it took them too long and they screwed up the process,

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Speaker 3: but they did what we've been asking them to do.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to move the goalpost on him now

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Speaker 3: and say, well you could have been all that line like,

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand that mentality. Yeah, we've we've talked

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Speaker 3: about it endlessly over the last couple of years. How

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Speaker 3: bad they've screwed it up. Fix it, fix it, fix it,

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Speaker 3: fix it, fix it. That's what we've been saying. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they did. Yeah, celebrate it, John, what's going on?

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Speaker 15: Happy Tuesday? Fellas? You all right, you're still way behind me,

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Speaker 15: but you know, eventually they catch up. I think I

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Speaker 15: would say the two players they signed yesterday at Mafe

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Speaker 15: and Cook, I give him a bet. Plus Mafay obviously,

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Speaker 15: I think it's gonna be a better skin sit here

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Speaker 15: than he was in Seattle. On the Mike McDonald because

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Speaker 15: you saw it in twenty twenty three, Mafay had nine

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Speaker 15: facts the year before McDonald's came to Seattle. Now, McDonald's

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Speaker 15: a great coach. They just won the Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 15: I think the Bengals can get even more out of

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Speaker 15: him and Cook, you guys knowing better than I since

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Speaker 15: he played for the bear Cats. But he just seems

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Speaker 15: like a really solid player right like he's going to

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Speaker 15: be at the right place at the right time.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to make mistakes.

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Speaker 15: As you said, only twenty two miss tackles in four

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Speaker 15: years compared to Geno Stones twenty three last year. I

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Speaker 15: will upgrade the free agent signing to an A because

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Speaker 15: the best free agent signing so far still is Jessica Album.

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Speaker 15: Now what I would do is I would hire her

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Speaker 15: as the director of scouting because she certainly has a

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Speaker 15: keen eye for her elite talents. Got to give her

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Speaker 15: a job in the front office. He certainly knows how.

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Speaker 14: To scout talent.

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Speaker 15: Jessica Albant a nice addition to the franchise. Yeah, the

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Speaker 15: thing that I looked at and I think Austin he

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Speaker 15: nailed it with Trey Hendrickson in twenty twenty four when

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Speaker 15: he was runner up for Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 15: It's seventeen and a half sacks.

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Speaker 16: Now.

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Speaker 15: Nine of them came in four games against three teams,

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Speaker 15: four against the Raiders, two against the Giants, and three

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Speaker 15: sacks against Cleveland in two games. I mean, those were

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Speaker 15: three of the worst teams in football that year. In

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Speaker 15: two games against Baltimore, no sacks, in one game against Philadelphia,

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Speaker 15: no sacks. So it seems like he's a compiler who's

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Speaker 15: pour against the run, a very little leadership.

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Speaker 12: So ready to move on from him.

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Speaker 15: But I do think the two signings yesterday totally outstanding

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Speaker 15: and it's a good way to start free agency.

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Speaker 7: Without a doubt. John, Thanks so much for your phone call, man.

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Speaker 7: We appreciate you anytime.

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Speaker 12: Fellas.

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, Yeah, I think I saw the tweet floating

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Speaker 7: around yesterday. If you want to see the formula to

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Speaker 7: make a college football playoff Austin, the bear Cats that

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Speaker 7: have gotten paid in the last couple of months, Sauce Gardner,

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Speaker 7: Alec Pierce, Kobe Bryant, Brian Cook.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, played well too, pretty good. They really played good

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Speaker 3: in that game. Pretty good, and well any of them

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Speaker 3: they did they for.

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Speaker 7: I was thinking I could sneak that one, but getting

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Speaker 7: that past the Goltender, my mind's not there yet. I

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Speaker 7: will forget. I don't remember much of it. Probably the

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Speaker 7: earliest I've ever went to bed on New year's even

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Speaker 7: my life day whatever, Joe Daniman, Well, we'll join us.

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Speaker 7: We've got a ton to get to with Joe. From

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Speaker 7: Hunter Green to UH to the Cincinnati Bank and more.

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Speaker 7: That happens next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station

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Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati,

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Speaker 7: All right, here we go our number two since he

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Speaker 7: three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's get

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Speaker 7: it started with our guy from Fox nineteen. A ton

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Speaker 7: of stuff going on at Fox nineteen. We'll get to

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Speaker 7: that with Joe Daniman. He joins us right now.

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Speaker 3: Joey D what's up?

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Speaker 14: Forty years old?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough one today, Joe emphasis on old.

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Speaker 14: Not a tough one.

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Speaker 3: Forty is a tough one, A great number. Okay, Oh wow,

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Speaker 3: I'll take that. I'll take that.

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Speaker 14: How are you celebrating tonight.

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Speaker 7: Well, the wife text me yesterday and she said, I

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Speaker 7: thought it'd be fun. We can go play nine holes

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Speaker 7: of golf. I got a babysitter, so she's got nine

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Speaker 7: holes playing. But she originally planned it for four thirty,

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Speaker 7: and I said, look, I appreciate this. We've got to

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Speaker 7: get it till after five because the Bearcats play at three,

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Speaker 7: So we're gonna watch the Bearcats and then we're gonna

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Speaker 7: go play nine holes of golf.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be better to not watch them and just

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Speaker 3: play golf. That's a fair argument. That is a fair argument.

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Speaker 14: Bearcats will win today. They'll win today, and you'll enjoy

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Speaker 14: your golf.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there is a ton going on from what

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Speaker 3: the Bengals did yesterday, which we'll get to in just

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Speaker 3: a minute, Joe. But what we learned earlier today, the

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Speaker 3: developments and the updates around Hunter Green. He's gonna get

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Speaker 3: the elbow scope tomorrow fourteen to sixteen weeks. And I

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Speaker 3: thought it in reading our good friend Charlie Goldsmith on

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Speaker 3: Substack with Charlie's chalkboard. Austin and I talked about it earlier.

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Speaker 3: Terry Francona alluded to the fact that Hunter never really

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Speaker 3: told him any of this information directly.

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Speaker 7: Let's start with there. Let's start with the chain of command.

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Speaker 7: Do you find that odd at all of hearing what

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Speaker 7: Terry Francona had to say talking about Hunter Green going

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Speaker 7: back to last year?

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Speaker 14: Sure, I do. I do find it on, especially considering

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Speaker 14: at one point the Reds made decisions not to move

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Speaker 14: up a Hunter Green start at the end of the

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Speaker 14: season to get him more stars to get the team

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Speaker 14: into the playoffs. So it certainly was talked about amongst

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Speaker 14: the coaching staff. Now, in that quote, if you read

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Speaker 14: between the lines, it sounds as if Hunter Green was

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Speaker 14: communicating with Derek Johnson about what was going on the

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Speaker 14: pitching coach, and that was I would guess, being relayed

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Speaker 14: to Terry Francona. But if the situation were to present

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Speaker 14: itself where your star pitcher had an elbow in you

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Speaker 14: and he's feeling it, you would think the chain of

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Speaker 14: command would be a conversation with the manager. It doesn't

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Speaker 14: seem like that happened, and I find that to be

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Speaker 14: a bit odd, considering his importance and considering the ramifications

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Speaker 14: of an injury like that. The other piece of it, too,

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Speaker 14: is is why wasn't this taken care of earlier? But

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Speaker 14: I think we all understand that Major League Baseball players

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Speaker 14: don't want to have surgery if they don't have to

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Speaker 14: have it, and I think they thought the ejection would

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Speaker 14: help and maybe take care of it, and obviously hasn't.

864
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 14: And here we are. And when this news came out,

865
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 14: I believe a week ago, the understanding was that Hunter

866
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 14: wasn't going to be around for the start of the season.

867
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 14: I thought, maybe miss a month, maybe miss six weeks.

868
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 14: This is pretty significant and you're talking about an early

869
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 14: July return. We all know that the All Star break

870
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 14: is in mid July, so you wonder if it gets

871
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 14: to pushed back to even then if it's on the

872
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 14: back end of the sixteen weeks. So it's disappointing. You

873
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 14: can't replace a guy like Hunter Green, even though you

874
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 14: have Rhet Lauder and Brandon Williamson and Chase Burns for

875
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 14: death for the starting rotation. Hunter Green is supposed to

876
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 14: be the guy that takes the ball in Opening Day

877
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 14: and takes the ball in Game one of the playoffs.

878
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 14: Now one of those is off the table. The question

879
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 14: is are the Reds built and equipped to get into

880
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 14: the playoffs and give him a chance to start Game one.

881
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 14: I do believe they are, but you can't replace a

882
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 14: guy like Hunter Green what he brings as for ast production.

883
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just it's a tough way to start a

884
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 7: year for a team that it's not like there's a

885
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 7: huge margin for air for this team going into the year,

886
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 7: and you kind of alluded to the names that will

887
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 7: now be drawn upon to try to fill those starts

888
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 7: for Hunter Green. So disappointing news on the front of

889
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Reds, but I think all in all, Joe,

890
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 7: a very positive day for the Cincinnati Bengals yesterday and

891
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 7: what they were able to do and who they addressed

892
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 7: their needs with.

893
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: What was your overall takeaway?

894
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 7: What was your overall grade you would have given the

895
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 7: Bengals from what they did yesterday and adding two players.

896
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 14: I thought yesterday was a great day because it's set

897
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 14: a tone this team and had deficiencies and boxes that

898
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 14: need to check, and I think they went out and

899
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 14: targeted two positions and two players that could check those

900
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 14: boxes and immediately upgrade their defense. I think if you

901
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 14: look where the Bengals were yesterday, they are significantly better

902
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 14: on defense. Today than they were yesterday, and that means

903
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 14: they're a better football team today than they were yesterday.

904
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 14: If you put a grade on it, I would probably

905
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 14: put it at in anus just because they didn't land

906
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 14: a home run when they could have gotten Devin Lloyd.

907
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 14: If they would have gotten him, you're looking at an

908
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 14: AA plus for a first day a free agency. But

909
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 14: when you start the offseason saying, Okay, what do we

910
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 14: have to be better at? If you're the Bengals front office,

911
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 14: We've got to be better at disrupting and affecting the quarterback.

912
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 14: They've done that. They've gotten better there. Boy A Motte

913
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 14: immediately becomes this team's best pass rusher. Okay, we got

914
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 14: to be better tacklers, and we have to upgrade the

915
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 14: safety position. They're immediately checked both of those boxes by

916
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 14: bringing in Brian Cook now Kobe Bryant press conference. Job's

917
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 14: not finished, the job finished. Job's not finished. They still

918
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 14: have more work to do. But for day one, where

919
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 14: it felt like some people were starting to panic a

920
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 14: little bit about the idea that a lot of these

921
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 14: guys were going off the board, and I was texting

922
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 14: you guys, kill, the Bengals set the tone that they

923
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 14: understand the assignment, they understand the urgency. We all inferred

924
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 14: that from everything that Duke Tobin said leading up to

925
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 14: the start of free agency, that the Bengals got it.

926
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 14: They were going to go for it. They understood they

927
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 14: had to fix the defense through free agency. Yesterday was

928
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 14: a great first step if they could add one or

929
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 14: two more starters. I said before the week started, I

930
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 14: think the Bengals have to find four new starters in

931
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 14: free agency and a draft. They've got two. I expect

932
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 14: two more to come from either free agency or the

933
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 14: draft to help this defense take a massive step twenty six.

934
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 7: That's where I was going to go with that, because

935
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 7: if you if you start the off season, you've got

936
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 7: a to do list. Dalton Reisner was on that list,

937
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 7: moving on from Trey Hendrickson was on that list. Attacking

938
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 7: this free agency period was on the list. So for you,

939
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 7: with those three things already checked, when you start looking

940
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 7: to today and on what's next, what position are you highlighting?

941
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 7: Is there a player out there or players that you've

942
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 7: highlighted and say, okay, this would make a lot of

943
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 7: sense for the Bengals to get done.

944
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 14: I think it's Leo's Chanel from Kansas City. The linebacker,

945
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 14: A big linebacker, six three, two fifty. He's bigger than

946
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 14: Demetrious Knight. He's significantly bigger than Barret Carter. He's got

947
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 14: juice in the run game, he's got juice in the

948
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 14: pressure game. For him to come from Kansas City to

949
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 14: Cincinnati again with the I don't want to use the

950
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 14: word pedigree again, Austin, but they added dice yesterday that

951
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 14: won super Bowls and that matters, and you can throw

952
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 14: cold water on that all you want. But when boy

953
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 14: and Brian Cook walk into that room with super Bowl

954
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 14: rings and you get guys who have won and won

955
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 14: at high levels, and you see what Leo Chanell has done,

956
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 14: the big plays he's made, the clutch plays he's made,

957
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 14: I can pick out him as one guy, But I

958
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 14: think the linebacker situation, to me is still the one

959
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 14: that I have circled underline and starved. That has to

960
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 14: be fixed in free agency defensive tackle. I think they

961
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 14: might have a better shot of taking a swing on

962
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 14: that in the draft, just because it's somewhat of a

963
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 14: weak defensive tackle free agency class. But there are guys

964
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 14: Leo Chanell, Kaden ellis even though he's a little bit

965
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 14: advanced an age at thirty one years old, he's got

966
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 14: some juice in the cover game. So there are different

967
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 14: guys I think the Bengals can target. They didn't get

968
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 14: Devin Lloyd, who I thought would be the guy that

969
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 14: would be the difference maker and the home run of

970
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 14: a trifecta on day one of three players. Didn't get him.

971
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 14: Leo Chanell, a guy that when he was drafted by

972
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 14: cam the City said he's addicted to tackling and hitting people.

973
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 14: He loves violence and physicality. If you add back to

974
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 14: this defense, you add a guy like Boye Mafe who

975
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 14: plays with his hair on fire, another guy that just

976
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 14: loves to hit and plays with a bit of a

977
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 14: crazy streak. Now you start to cook a little bit.

978
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 14: But linebacker certainly is someone I'm looking for the Bengals

979
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 14: to address in free agency and not necessarily the drafts,

980
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 14: because I just don't think a guy like Sonny Styles

981
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 14: or RB Reach will be there at number ten.

982
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 7: Speaking of who could be there at number ten, Austin

983
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 7: and I just had this discussion, and I'll ask you

984
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 7: they went and got Brian Cook yesterday. We've heard a

985
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 7: lot and We've talked a lot about Caleb Downs leading

986
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 7: up to the draft process. Does what they did yesterday

987
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 7: change your thought at all? If Caleb Downs is there

988
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 7: at number ten?

989
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 14: It doesn't, because I think what you wanted to do

990
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 14: in free agency was give yourself flexibility in the draft,

991
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 14: not to be drafting for a position, but to be

992
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 14: drafting for the best player. And you know, the best

993
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 14: player comes with a bit of nuance, right and that's

994
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 14: the best players. A quarterback. You're obviously not taking a quarterback,

995
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 14: but just about every other position this football team needs

996
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 14: help at, needs death or needs difference makers. And if

997
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 14: you're able to address all of this in free agency

998
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 14: and Caleb Downs is the best player on the board,

999
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 14: absolutely take Caleb Downs. Because what's the death look right now?

1000
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 14: In the safety room? Tyson Anderson's not for sure coming

1001
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 14: back to Cincinnati. You have three safeties on the roster

1002
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 14: now with Brian Cook, Dejon Anthony and Jordan Battle. You

1003
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 14: need depth and you need good football players. And if

1004
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 14: Caleb Downs is the best player there, then go for it.

1005
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 14: I just think it's important to go into draft night

1006
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 14: with through flexibility to draft good players, not necessarily draft

1007
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 14: to a position or the Bengals have done a good

1008
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 14: job on Day one addressing some of those needs. They

1009
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 14: still need to do more when they to get themselves

1010
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 14: set up for the draft, because quite honestly, you could

1011
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 14: even look at offensive tackle at number ten if they

1012
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 14: do the kind of work they have to do here

1013
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 14: in free agency. Orlando Brown's becoming somewhat of a question

1014
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 14: mark if he gets older in his career. So I

1015
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 14: think it's important for this team to have that kind

1016
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 14: of flexibility on draft night, and they can do that

1017
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 14: by getting the work done this week in free such.

1018
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 7: I was going to say, so you could see a

1019
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 7: path that they get their work done enough that you

1020
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 7: could entertain the offensive side of the ball at some

1021
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 7: capacity at pick number ten.

1022
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 14: I don't know if I would go full James Rapine

1023
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 14: and know what Jeremiah Love.

1024
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 18: No.

1025
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 14: I think Jeremiah Love quite honestly, might be the best

1026
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 14: college football player from last season, might be the best

1027
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 14: football player in the draft. But that feels like, again

1028
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 14: the nuance, it feels like too much of a luxury

1029
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 14: for this team, considering some depth they need, some difference

1030
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 14: makers they needed to any positions all over the field.

1031
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 14: It would be exciting he's a tremendous player. And you know,

1032
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 14: Chase Brown isn't guaranteed anything right now past his rookie contracts.

1033
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 14: So if they were to pick someone like Jeremiah Love,

1034
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 14: it'd be a lot of fun. It would be really cool,

1035
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 14: and we'd make my job certainly a lot of fun

1036
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 14: covering this team and rookie camp and mini camp and

1037
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 14: all the way up to training camp. But I think

1038
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 14: there has to be some nuance that comes with it.

1039
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 14: But yeah, offensive side, sure, if you give yourself enough

1040
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 14: flexibility by getting your work done in free agency, I

1041
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 14: could definitely see them looking at offensive tackle. But outside

1042
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 14: of the top one, I'm not sure anybody else there

1043
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 14: might be worth looking at the big board consensus for

1044
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 14: draft picks, so as we sit here today, I still

1045
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 14: think it's probably ninety to ninety five percent likely it's

1046
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 14: going to be a defensive player. But give yourself options

1047
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 14: and get ready made players. It's not necessarily just the draft.

1048
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 14: It's stopped having to think that you have to draft,

1049
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 14: develop and hope these guys hit. You give yourself a

1050
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 14: shot here with Brian Cook and boy a mate of

1051
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 14: guys that you've seen do it on Sundays and when

1052
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 14: you have guys that are ready proven difference makers, I

1053
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 14: would think you sleep a little bit better at night

1054
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 14: knowing you don't have to rely on rookies as much

1055
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 14: as they did Last year.

1056
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: We saw the reaction over the weekend of Jamar Chase

1057
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: when Max Crosby was traded to the Baltimore Ravens. How

1058
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: important do you think is it the message sent to

1059
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 3: Jamar and Joe and the other guys on the team

1060
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: to be aggressive like this on day number one?

1061
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 12: There's no doubt, And I.

1062
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 14: Think that's all part of it. That's all baked into

1063
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 14: the urgency of what the Bengals were feeling. And I

1064
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 14: think you have to give Joe Burrow credit. You know,

1065
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 14: we talk about so much Joe Burrow's master of messaging

1066
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 14: and his way of getting in front of a microphone

1067
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 14: and delivering a message that really hits. And I think

1068
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 14: the fact that his patience was thinning as the year cantinued,

1069
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 14: I think that message got across to the front office.

1070
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 14: Coaches seats are warming, quarterbacks, patients is thinning, the clock

1071
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 14: is picking. I mean, all of these things added up

1072
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 14: to a team in a front office that I thought

1073
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 14: knew the urgency of the moment and the idea that

1074
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 14: they had to go out and go for it in

1075
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 14: free agency. Now they've gone for it some they have

1076
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 14: to go for it more. This is just the start.

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Speaker 14: It can't be the finished product of two guys that

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00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 14: come in and help this defense. It's a bigger rebuild project,

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Speaker 14: and that we all know that. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 14: they can rebuild the whole thing in one offseason. You know,

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00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 14: they tried with all the draft picks last year. That

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00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 14: didn't work. Now they can try it with free agents

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 14: and draft picks. There are so many holes on this

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Speaker 14: defense that it might take this year and maybe in

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00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 14: the next year's offseason to really get this back to

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Speaker 14: a championship level defense. But certainly the reaction from the

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Speaker 14: best players on this team and what they've said. You

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 14: go back to what Jamar Chase said near the end

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Speaker 14: of the year. I was looking at the clip yesterday

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Speaker 14: when he was talking and asked about the idea of

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01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 14: Candebengles get this thing turned around quickly, and he said yes.

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Speaker 14: And he was asked as a follow up, well, what

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01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 14: needs to change, and he basically said, we all know

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01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 14: what needs to change and what needs to change. Is

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Speaker 14: this team fine, ready made Sunday proven difference makers on defense,

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Speaker 14: and they started that process with two good ones on Monday.

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Speaker 3: I think, as Bengals fans, we are used to the

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Speaker 3: idea of a retread going back in time. What do

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Speaker 3: you think of the idea of DJ Reader.

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Speaker 14: It's a bit of a sigh, that's my reaction, because

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Speaker 14: I wonder how much really good football is left in

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Speaker 14: DJ Reader, all the intangibles, check every box you would want.

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Speaker 14: I guess with dj what's the price tag? Is the

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Speaker 14: price tag worth the risk of a guy who's getting older,

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Speaker 14: who has injuries, but at the price is right, certain

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Speaker 14: it might be worth the gamble. He likes it here, Obviously,

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Speaker 14: he's respected here, and he certainly would have a big

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Speaker 14: role here if he were able to produce at a

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Speaker 14: level that would match whatever contract the Bengals give him.

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Speaker 14: So I'm not against the idea. I think my natural

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01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 14: reaction was age injury. Probably not. But if the price

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Speaker 14: is right and the market goes down on DJ Reader, yeah,

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Speaker 14: why not give him a shot. If the price is right,

1114
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 14: bring him back and see if he can help.

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Speaker 3: Are you surprised at all? Joe?

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Speaker 7: As we get to day two, that Trey Hendrickson is

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Speaker 7: still on the board and it doesn't seem like teams

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Speaker 7: are willing to match that price tag.

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Speaker 14: I am surprised, and I think that might be different

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Speaker 14: than the normal take of anybody who's followed Trey Hendrickson

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01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 14: because we can poke as many holes in his game

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Speaker 14: as we want to, and the age is a factor.

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Speaker 14: Like DJ Raider, the age and the injury is a factor.

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Speaker 14: He's a bit of a specialist, right that he just

1125
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 14: rushes the passer doesn't help you in the run game.

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 14: He's not a great tackler outside of getting the quarterback

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Speaker 14: to the ground. People will will always say too that

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Speaker 14: you know, he kind of feasted on bad opponents. He

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Speaker 14: would get sacks and bunches against backups and bad teams.

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Speaker 14: But there is a skill set that helps teams win,

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Speaker 14: and it would have helped the Bengals win multiple games,

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Speaker 14: I believe last year if he was healthy. He has

1133
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 14: a knack in the fourth quarter late in games to

1134
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Speaker 14: make plays that can't be taught. That's important. He's a closer,

1135
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Speaker 14: and teams meet closers, and when his skill and his

1136
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 14: position is valued as much as it is in the NFL,

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Speaker 14: I'm surprised one team hasn't fallen in love with the

1138
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Speaker 14: idea of adding Trey Hendrickson. It'll happen, someone will give

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Speaker 14: him money. I don't know what the money will be,

1140
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 14: but I am surprised he made it through day one

1141
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 14: without somebody saying, oh, yeah, he can instantly make us better,

1142
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 14: because wherever he goes, he will make that team better.

1143
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 14: Let's let's not kid ourselves. We can say whatever we

1144
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 14: want and poke the holes in the Trey Henderson resume

1145
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 14: as many times as we can. But he still had

1146
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 14: good football left in him. He still does a skill

1147
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 14: that is a premium skill in the NFL. That team's value.

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Speaker 14: He'll get his money. I don't know if we'll get

1149
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 14: the money he expected. Certainly it doesn't look that way.

1150
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 14: Maybe this is a bit of a dose of reality

1151
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 14: for a guy who bet on himself and it's not

1152
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 14: working out as well as he thought. But one team,

1153
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 14: one team will see what he can do, and Trey

1154
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 14: Hendrickson will find himself a spot for multiple years going forward.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Jones, the CBS NFL Insider, right as we began

1157
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 3: this phone call, Joe said that he spoke with teams

1158
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: this morning who said the gap between what Trey Hendrickson

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01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 3: wanted and what they were willing to pay him was

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Speaker 3: close to ten million dollars per year.

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Speaker 14: That shouldn't surprise us.

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01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 3: No, it's just here in.

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Speaker 14: Cincinnati we saw when the Bengals said go ahead and

1164
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Speaker 14: try to go for a trade partner, and what was

1165
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 14: the market right? And that's the other thing too, is

1166
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 14: you know people talk all the time, why did the

1167
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 14: banks trade him? I think we're seeing maybe the market

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Speaker 14: in the NFL wasn't as high as maybe we thought

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01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 14: it should be here in Cincinnati for what Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 14: did on the field. And I think we've had multiple

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01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 14: data points now of time of where Trey Hendrickson could

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Speaker 14: put his name out there and fort with other teams

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 14: and he hasn't gotten the date. And I think maybe

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01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 14: that's reality now for Trey Hendrickson that Okay, I'm not

1175
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 14: as worth as much as I thought I was because

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01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 14: I am a bit of a specialist. But people will

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Speaker 14: get paid. Somebody will love that skill set and what

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01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 14: he can do to help a team. Because I do

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01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 14: stand on it, Trey Henderson is still a guy that

1180
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 14: can help a team win games because of what he

1181
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 14: can do in.

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Speaker 3: A fourth quarter, Joe.

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Speaker 7: Before I let you go, I gotta ask. They just

1184
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 7: showed on one of the screens here in the studio

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01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 7: the Bearcats are arriving for their three o'clock game the

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01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 7: Big Twelve, this court for the Big Twelve tournament, all

1187
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 7: the bells and whistles, and yet I watch it and

1188
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 7: I'm like, it's kind of bland. They've got the ability

1189
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Speaker 7: to do a million different things, and it's just this bland,

1190
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 7: great court. What do you make of the court, And secondly,

1191
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 7: what do you make of the bearcatch chances?

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Speaker 14: Okay, I want to see what it looks like. I

1193
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 14: haven't seen it yet on live TV, but I'm assuming

1194
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 14: it's going to be used for a lot of pregame stuff,

1195
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 14: a lot of halftime stuff, and that's fine. I don't

1196
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 14: think they need to go crazy when it's actually a

1197
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 14: high level basketball game with serious stakes for coaches and

1198
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 14: futures and teams trying to make a run to the

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Speaker 14: NCAA tournament. But I like the idea of it. I

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01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 14: think it's something that could be interesting on the NBA level,

1201
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 14: where every night kind of feels like you're trying to

1202
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 14: find a reason to entertain the fans with players opting

1203
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 14: out and load managing. So we'll see if that makes

1204
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 14: its way to the NBA. I like the bearcatch chances today,

1205
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Speaker 14: I just don't like to draw. I don't like the

1206
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Speaker 14: fact that Arizona's right there in their path because it's

1207
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Speaker 14: probably the one team in the conference when they light

1208
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 14: up and put this on tape and run it back

1209
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 14: when the put in the upset, it's the one team.

1210
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Speaker 14: I don't think they can be in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 14: Houston doesn't scare me, Kansas obviously shouldn't scare it. They

1212
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 14: went there, Texas Tech, maybe Iowa State certainly doesn't scare me.

1213
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 14: But Arizona's the one team. I just I don't see

1214
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 14: it happening. But I want to ask you one question, Tony.

1215
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Speaker 14: So I'm sitting there at my desk yesterday and like

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Speaker 14: a good employee, I have Fox nineteen on there. I

1217
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 14: keep seeing commercials for you and Kat Patrick. You're on

1218
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 14: TV on Fox nineteen, asked big day.

1219
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Speaker 7: I got, I got a big tag tapping tomorrow night

1220
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Speaker 7: in a big, big event on Saturday with the parade.

1221
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Speaker 14: Let's go, and you're gonna be on TV where you

1222
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 14: belong forty years old. Forty candles feels right. It's a

1223
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 14: big weekend. We're gonna celebrate Tony Burson.

1224
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Speaker 7: What what else you got coming up? I know some

1225
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 7: big stuff with the Reds coming up on Fox nineteen.

1226
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 7: What else is coming up with you guys?

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Speaker 14: Yeah? The big news right, Opening Day back on Fox

1228
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 14: nineteen now a second straight year, two year deal, so

1229
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Speaker 14: it'll be three years when you look at next year

1230
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 14: as well. We are going to be showing thirteen Red

1231
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 14: games on Fox nineteen now this year. That's a big deal,

1232
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Speaker 14: including Opening Day and Hall of Fame Night at Great

1233
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 14: American Ballpark. We're already planning a lot of special coverage

1234
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 14: around those. The last thirty minute final quarter of this season, man,

1235
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Speaker 14: is this Friday night as teams are now in state regionals,

1236
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 14: deep into tournament runs or running out of teams enough

1237
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 14: to fill a thirty minute show. So last one this Friday,

1238
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 14: but the final quarter continues after that in a fifteen

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Speaker 14: minute capacity until football season.

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Speaker 7: Joe Daneman, Fox nineteen, Joe, You're the man. We'll talk

1241
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 7: again soon.

1242
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 14: Happy birthday, you day.

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Speaker 3: Joey D.

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Speaker 7: Fox nineteen, Always appreciative of Joe's time. Next We're also

1245
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 7: appreciative of your time. It's talkbacks on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati Sports Station.

1247
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

1248
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 20: Press the microphone and record your message or Austin and tone,

1249
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 20: please keep it clean and don't be mean, and.

1250
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 14: A sprinkle sprinkle grip.

1251
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

1252
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 20: It's our favorite part of Saincy three sixty. So Austin, buddy,

1253
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 20: play those talkbacks on your screen and please write now

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Speaker 20: to sabotage.

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Speaker 3: Here we go Tuesday's edition Talkbacks happening right now, ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We did have one other

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Speaker 3: NFL news that happened while we were talking to Joe

1258
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 3: Danaman overbreak, the former Kansas City chief running back. Of course,

1259
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 3: they went and got Kenneth Walker yesterday. Isaiah Pacheco has

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 3: agreed to a deal with the Detroit Lions to join

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Speaker 3: Jamir Gibbs in the Lions backfield. Kicker Zain Gonzales agrees

1262
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: to a deal with the Miami Dolphins. The Giants have

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01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: signed linebacker Micah McFadden to a one year deal. The

1264
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 3: Houston Texans have agreed to a contract extension with Kayimi

1265
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: Fairbarn so some kicker action going on. Kicks man, Yeah,

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01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 3: that's right. The Vikings signed a long snapper earlier today,

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Speaker 3: So good living, good living.

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Speaker 21: Happy day to everybody. Gotta say, Duke, I owe you

1269
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 21: an apology. You weren't sleeping on your hands, nor were

1270
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 21: you sitting on them, So I gotta eat some crow

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Speaker 21: on that one.

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Speaker 3: We are certainly not now.

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Speaker 21: We got Ryan let him cook walking home, sir, And

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01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 21: we got boy A. I don't have a meddal name

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01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 21: for him yet, Mafey, but yeah, he's one half of

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01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 21: the law offices of Murphy and Mafay.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to think of something for boy Mafay

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: I do like Brian let him too. Hey, guys, pull

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Speaker 3: from cleaves here.

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Speaker 22: Does anybody else think that Trey was hoping for a

1281
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 22: franchise tag and then trade or actually a franchise tag.

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01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 22: That market is really drying up for him. I don't know,

1283
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 22: you know, if it was you know, planned to do

1284
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 22: it this way, but I don't see a lot of

1285
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 22: teams just jumping off the board to go sign him.

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Speaker 22: And I think the Bengals were smart with the way

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Speaker 22: they handled that whole situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Trey is delusional. So no, I don't

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Speaker 3: think he was hoping for a franchise tag. I think

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01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 3: he thinks he's worth that money.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, hey guys, it's Jeff Happy Tuesday. To So, the

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 23: Bengals did a nice job yesterday. I would definitely give

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01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 23: them an A for the two signings. I'm curious to

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 23: see what else they're gonna do. If they could get

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01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 23: a couple more, that would really move the needle from

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 23: all defense. Good luck to our Bearcats today. We'll see

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 23: what happens.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got some stuff to say on the Bearcats coming.

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 7: If I see another person that I follow on social

1300
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 7: media talking about it would be better for this program

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 7: to lose today than when we're gonna start activating the

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01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 7: defollow or the unfollowed button quickly.

1303
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: Are they wrong? Yes? Why?

1304
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 7: Because this team over the last month or so has

1305
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 7: showed an ability to beat anybody.

1306
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 3: Played good against TCU, beat beat U Tall. They've also

1307
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: proven over the course of long time they could do

1308
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 3: and go shock the world, beat Arizona. They've also proven

1309
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 3: over the last couple months the ability to be beaten

1310
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 3: by anything.

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01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 7: I could never, never openly root against UCEE in a game,

1312
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 7: regardless of what the outcome is.

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 3: Hey, it's Greg Hey. Happy birthday, Tony. You have a

1314
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 3: great day.

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 21: Thank you, Greg Hey, Gefi Teasino exit your birthday today?

1316
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 3: Well, happy birthday, brother. It's a fantastic one.

1317
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 21: So happy birthday. And then closing four letters, one word.

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01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 24: Hey, guys, I know the main question circulating around, so

1319
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 24: I'll just go ahead and answer it since you're all asking.

1320
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 24: One of my best friends from childhood was Yogi Bear,

1321
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 24: and he first appeared in nineteen fifty eight on The

1322
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 24: Huckleberry Hound Show Now Yogi. He was famous for stealing

1323
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 24: pickingneck baskets, but his best friend Boo Boo often warned

1324
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 24: him about getting in trouble.

1325
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 3: With old Ranger Smith so bad. First off, have your birthday, Tony.

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 25: Hopefully the Bear cast can get you a birthday win

1327
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 25: against Utah and keep the season alive for you. But

1328
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 25: right now, I want to take you guys back to

1329
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 25: two thousand and five when number sixteen Joe Randa and

1330
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 25: a walk off home run on Opening Day to defeat

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01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 25: the New York Mets.

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: Sixteen Day Day, Joe Randa, I remember that was a

1333
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 3: big deal. That was an ESPN game that day against

1334
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 3: the Mets. Like that whole series was on esp.

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 8: Hey after yesterday's free agent signings, I actually clapped while

1336
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 8: sitting on my hands. It was a strange sensation, I

1337
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 8: bet it was.

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 21: We are certainly not gonna sit on our hands.

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01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 19: Yeah, Max Kellerman aka balling ain't easy.

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: Tony Pike is.

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 25: Gonna fall off a cliff this year at the three

1342
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 25: on three.

1343
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,480
Speaker 2: He's gonna run out of gas.

1344
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 3: It's my year.

1345
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 26: This is this is when things start.

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01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 3: He's over forty.

1347
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 14: It's over for you town.

1348
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 3: I got age on my side.

1349
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 14: You're going down this year.

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01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: Age just yet a number of my friend, there's just

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01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 3: yet a number. There are some circles out there that

1352
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: are comparing you to Trey Hendrickson. Some circles are saying,

1353
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 3: I'm playing my best ball yet getting a little bit older,

1354
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: not as much left in the tank. Overvalue yourself quite

1355
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: a bit. Absolutely, that's true.

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01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 4: It's God. And yes, I have exercise the demons. Because

1357
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 4: the Bengals have signed two key defensive players. That's going

1358
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 4: to be a key into their success for next year.

1359
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 4: And talk back Nation, there's more to come because I'm

1360
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 4: exercising those demons to bring in more signings.

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: How about that from the Lord, like the Lord with

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 3: a hint of Morgan Freeman. I don't know what exactly

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 3: was going on there.

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Speaker 8: Double dip Jim here.

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01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: With Hunter Green.

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01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 8: Have we ever thought about the fact that Hunter Green

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 8: may be keeping all this private because he's actually afraid

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 8: of going to doctors and having procedures done.

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 3: I know a lot of men who don't want to

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01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: go to their doctor because they're.

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Speaker 8: Afraid to go.

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid of I'm afraid of you, Jim. It's the Lord.

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01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: Happy Tuesday.

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01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 5: Everybody start bench cut Mark Pike, former NFL player thirty

1375
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 5: fifteen years Zebylon Pike led the expedition of Pike's Peak

1376
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 5: Tony Pike, former UC quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Well, Zeb, that's a perfect I mean Zeb getting up

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 7: to the top of Mark or Mount Pike.

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01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 3: That takes the cake. Yeah, we talked about We did

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01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 3: a whole segment on that once.

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Speaker 6: Yea.

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Speaker 7: By the way, just going back one thing because the

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 7: Hunter Green comment. Terry Francona did make the comment that

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01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 7: you can't see inside players bodies.

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 3: That's actually not true. X Rays and MRIs Ken alright,

1386
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 3: like you can see yeah, great, what a player has

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01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 3: going on? Great point. Speaking of which technology story, for

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 3: later on. Did you see that they had like a

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Speaker 3: very minuscule amount of brain cells that they is a

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 3: science lab human brain cells, like just a tiny amount.

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Speaker 3: And over the course of I think like two weeks,

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 3: they taught it how to play a video game and

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 3: it played it on its own. I can't say ridiculous.

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 3: That says something about my brain.

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01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 15: Beastick a man out here on a.

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01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 12: Gorgeous just to.

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Speaker 27: Say, birthday or is it haw birthday?

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 6: Do you.

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Speaker 27: Guys have another best day ever?

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01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 3: Thank you? I don't know what's more beautiful, the song

1401
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 3: of a warbler or the song we just heard from

1402
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 3: the mailman. It's the Warbler in the spring. This is

1403
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 3: my new single.

1404
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 14: I hope we don't scare y'all. I'm just a hairy

1405
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 14: boy born deep in the hills.

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01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 28: Daddy ranshine, Mama cooke, watch.

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 5: You cue and drank it every day to the jar

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01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 5: and dry. She passed up his cold with a little kinner.

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 20: I ain't had the school.

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 28: Of no man the guy, so I talked myself how

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01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:38,480
Speaker 28: to live outside.

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01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: Wow, man, beautifully done. It was beautiful Fastuah, Happy.

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01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 29: Birthday, Tony. I hope you have a great day.

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01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 14: Thank you.

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01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 29: Congratulations Miami on a wonderful dream season. And Jeff in

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01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 29: Virginia sorry if the Miami fans are annoying you. I

1417
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 29: for one have never thought that we were Duke or

1418
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 29: North Carolina, just enjoying thee along with my ninety year

1419
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 29: old alum dad, who you know, getting to see this

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01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 29: in his lifetime. It's really amazing.

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01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: This should be a reality check for Jeff in Virginia.

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01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 3: I didn't see when you have offended Patty to the

1423
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 3: point where she needs to defend herself on talkback. Man.

1424
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 3: I love Jeff, but sometimes sometimes he comes off as

1425
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 3: a little cranky there. How sometimes maybe I didn't see

1426
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 3: this either, but maybe he was going at the Miami fans.

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01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 7: I did see tweeted yesterday about playing the Duke Tobin Sounder.

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 3: Oh well he didn't like it. No, he played it

1429
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 3: too much.

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01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 24: Hey, great day there, Tony.

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01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: Hold on a second, you're certainly knocking to see what

1432
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 3: you've unlocked here.

1433
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 24: Hey, great day there, Tony.

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01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 9: And as this is Jim, Hey, Jim, I just had

1435
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 9: to say happy birthday, Tony.

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01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: Thank you. Couldn't go without saying that.

1437
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 22: Miss you guys been a long tough winner for me

1438
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 22: and maybe one of these teams will give me something

1439
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 22: to sing about and I'll be able to do that soon.

1440
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 3: Love each other, guys, Man, heard that.

1441
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 26: Audie Ton been a while. I hope you guys are

1442
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 26: doing great. Just a guy leaving a talkback here. A wow.

1443
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 26: World Baseball Classic last night. Bobby Witt Jr. Is like

1444
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 26: modern day Auzie Smith. That was phenomenal. It was the

1445
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 26: coolest enfielding I've seen in decade.

1446
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 3: In the Bengals. I was just getting ready to pull

1447
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 3: the plug.

1448
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 26: I was like, man, they're not signing anybody, and then boom,

1449
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 26: they get two huge deals done.

1450
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 3: I'm really happy with that.

1451
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 14: I hope you all have a great day.

1452
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 3: Thank you. Good to hear from you.

1453
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 18: Hey, guys. THEO here first time talkbacker the Bengals. I

1454
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 18: think did pretty good yesterday Day one. A free agency

1455
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 18: boy Mafe and Brian Cook. I think I'd give him

1456
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 18: a solid B plus. Thanks guys.

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01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 28: You Hey guys, jeffin INDI love what the did yesterday.

1458
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 28: Got to keep it going, though he linebacker a need

1459
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 28: defensive line. I'd love another pass rusher and a tight

1460
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 28: end Hunter Green. This sucks, man, but I think we're

1461
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 28: starting to see the beginning of the end for Hunter

1462
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 28: in Cincinnati with all the stuff he said kind of

1463
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 28: alluded to things last season, the people talking trash about him,

1464
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 28: and now this happens, and what Francona said today, this

1465
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 28: ain't gonna end.

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01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 3: Well, that sucks man Red.

1467
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,839
Speaker 7: We'll dive more into the Francona comments in the whole situation,

1468
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 7: but you know, I thought Joe made the point as well.

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01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 7: And you start to think of when the All Star

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01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 7: break is when Hunter would would be healthy, and then

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01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 7: you got to get him back up to speed. I

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01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 7: wouldn't be surprised if Hunter Green's not back till after

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01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 7: the All Star Break.

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01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the timeline I'm using. Eighteen weeks from today

1475
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 3: is the All Star Game, So roughly nineteen weeks can

1476
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 3: he come back, and that that timeframe that gives him

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01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 3: an extra three weeks for rehab, assignments and whatnot. Maybe

1478
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 3: three starts. I don't know, but yeah, I kind of agree.

1479
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to put the cart before the horse here,

1480
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 3: but I kind of agree with Jeff that it feels

1481
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 3: like we're on a slippery slope with Hunter. Yeah. I

1482
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 3: know that, Like internally, I know that people in that

1483
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 3: organization really like him. I know Nick Crawl really likes him.

1484
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: I just don't know about the future for a guy,

1485
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 3: even though he's extremely affordable. It's just not available. Right.

1486
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 30: This is DJ This is what I like about what

1487
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 30: the Bengals have done so far with Malfay and Cook,

1488
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 30: rather than what they've done in the past and getting

1489
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 30: guys that are a little long into tooth and competing

1490
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 30: with other mediocre players.

1491
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: They got two starters.

1492
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 30: They're plugging holes immediately, and if they continue on this path,

1493
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 30: they can go into the draft and then not be desperate.

1494
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 30: They can pick best player available.

1495
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 3: I like it.

1496
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 7: I like it a lot. Twenty six and twenty seven

1497
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 7: years old. Both have won Super Bowls already. I like

1498
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 7: everything about the two players.

1499
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 19: I predict that even if Caleb Downs is available at ten,

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01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 19: the Bengals will select an edge rusher.

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01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know that they'll reach for one great.

1502
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 3: My current stance in I say this because I do

1503
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 3: not trust Duke Tobin or their drafting track record over

1504
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, is that they will reach

1505
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 3: for a defensive tackle at number ten. I hope not

1506
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 3: Peter Woods, Caleb Banks, Caden McDonald, one of those, because

1507
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 3: they won't find one between now and the draft unless

1508
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 3: they are to trade for Kenny Clark or they go

1509
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 3: after Logan Hall, and even he doesn't really fit what

1510
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 3: they're going for. I think they'll reach for a for

1511
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 3: a guy I hope not trying to put him over

1512
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 3: the top.

1513
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 14: You know, Happy birthday, Tony.

1514
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 31: This is Jim from Anderson, a gen one delusional Bearcats

1515
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 31: basketball fan to another.

1516
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 19: Ye.

1517
01:22:53,280 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 31: That's for you guys, Bearcat trios, James White, Max Seelish,

1518
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 31: Kashmire right Killpatrick Gates or Jacob Evans, Cumberland, Gary Clark.

1519
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 3: I'll start.

1520
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 7: I'll start Evans, Cumberland and Gary Clark, more so because

1521
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 7: Gary Clark's one of my favorite all time Bearcats. I

1522
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 7: will bench the first group you had with James White

1523
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 7: and Maxell and Eric Kicks, and then i'll cut the

1524
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 7: middle one.

1525
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 3: I'll start which everyone kashmiir rights in. Now's the middle one,

1526
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 3: because that's uh we played on. We played Kashmire right

1527
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 3: Sunday in the semifinals. Of directly, he was up here

1528
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 3: for something one day, him and Tarn were working on something.

1529
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 3: He was cool.

1530
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 23: This is a legitimate question.

1531
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 32: Has Mark beat the Jesse Bates horse into glue yet.

1532
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 19: I mean it was three years ago.

1533
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 32: I guarantee you if you had a time machine for

1534
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 32: the Bengals organization, that's like the one move. Everybody would

1535
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 32: go back in time and fix they messed up.

1536
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 14: They're trying to right their wrongs.

1537
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 32: Be happy for one day in your life.

1538
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 6: My god.

1539
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 3: Ye Mark is miserable. He always has been, he always

1540
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: will be. That's just who he is. I bet if

1541
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: we could go back in the system, if it was possible.

1542
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: The day after the Bengals signed Trey Hendrickson in twenty

1543
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 3: twenty one, Mark probably came in and complained, is that

1544
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: has too much money for a dude that's not proven?

1545
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 3: What's up, guys?

1546
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 16: Tday east Side, as Flavor Flavs used to say, Yeah, boy,

1547
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:18,839
Speaker 16: that was a dude.

1548
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 3: With a big clockhangar around. I know who he is.

1549
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 16: References that makes you scratch your head way to go

1550
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 16: front office. Great day yesterday, keep it up, and speaking

1551
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 16: of good days, Happy birthday, Tony. Now the fifties new forty, Tony.

1552
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 16: You and I are the same age unless forty is

1553
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 16: the new thirty.

1554
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: Birthday math is hard. Happy forties, bro, Thank you?

1555
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 9: What's up fellas is Chad and the Dean. What's Happy birthday, Tony.

1556
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 9: The reason why you draft Caleb Down still is just

1557
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 9: to get somebody in the pipeline for once. I've been

1558
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 9: a diehard Bengals fan for like twenty one years, and

1559
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 9: I cannot think of anybody off the top of my

1560
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 9: head without doing research that hit free agency and we

1561
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 9: could let them walk because we have someone behind them

1562
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 9: ready to step up.

1563
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:06,919
Speaker 3: I can't think of anybody.

1564
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 7: Well, I'm not taking anyone at ten to just be

1565
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 7: the guy in waiting. Number ten's got to be a starter,

1566
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 7: and I do think Caleb Downs could be the starter.

1567
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 27: Happy birthday, Tony. You hit forty. Congratulations. It may seem

1568
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 27: old to you, but when you get to be my age,

1569
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 27: forty seems really young. But my advice to you is

1570
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 27: to live life to your fullest. You're off to a

1571
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 27: good start. You got a beautiful family, you have a

1572
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 27: good job, good friends. So I wish you the best.

1573
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 27: So again, happy birthday and who day?

1574
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 3: Thank you Ken. All right, we have plenty more, but

1575
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 3: we just simply don't have the time. That's where we're at.

1576
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 3: We're up against the clock.

1577
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 7: Yes, one segment to finish up hour two clock is undefeasd.

1578
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 3: Thanks to everyone.

1579
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 7: Let's put the talkbacks and even if we didn't get

1580
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 7: it today, it's genuinely appreciated. We'll finish up our number

1581
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 7: two when we come back. In our number three. We've

1582
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 7: still got a lot with Hunter Green and the Cincinnati

1583
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 7: Reds and a big day college basketball wise as well.

1584
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,879
Speaker 7: On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

1585
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 17: Station WCKY, Cincinnati and iHeartRadio station Garan teed Human ESPN

1586
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 17: fifteen thirty.

1587
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 3: I heard radio man. Trouble in the.

1588
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:35,520
Speaker 1: Backpike Sincy three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1589
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Speaker 7: Welcome back since you three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty,

1590
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Sports Station. We have a call here on hold Austin.

1591
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 7: I can tell that just from the name on the

1592
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 7: call list here that this is a guy who's probably

1593
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 7: just boiling over right now, waiting for three o'clock.

1594
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,480
Speaker 3: Gotta get the dump button ready.

1595
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 7: He's he probably already dumping him at this saint, he's

1596
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 7: dumping three o'clock.

1597
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 3: Tip off. What's up, maso?

1598
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 12: What's going on?

1599
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 25: Boys?

1600
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 5: What?

1601
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 14: We are about to embark on the greatest journey of

1602
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 14: our life.

1603
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 19: Okay, let's do this thing. Come on, no audience, not

1604
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 19: to these Debbie Downer.

1605
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 3: Hold on, what your college.

1606
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,440
Speaker 19: Basketball talk card is about to be revoked?

1607
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 14: I'm telling you right now it's terrible.

1608
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 3: What card is your.

1609
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 12: College basketball talk?

1610
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 14: Your college basketball talk card.

1611
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 19: Is going to be revoked?

1612
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:36,440
Speaker 3: T T A l K talk. Yeah, okay, it's revoked.

1613
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 3: Is the bear Cats?

1614
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 14: I mean you just it's I can't take it.

1615
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 3: Man, tell me earlier today I said, NK, you got

1616
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 3: their face bashed in by right state negative. I have

1617
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 3: no interest in positivity or negativity. May so I searched

1618
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 3: for the truth.

1619
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 19: That's fine, hey, And I'm here for the truth. And

1620
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 19: the truth is we're going to the big We're doing it.

1621
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 19: We're gonna do this thing.

1622
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: Why do you think that masa mental health?

1623
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 19: I'm telling you right now, I am in a state

1624
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 19: of mind. I locked the kids in the basement. I

1625
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 19: don't know what's going on down there. I am just

1626
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 19: I'm freaking. I'm I'm in another mind state where I'm

1627
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 19: just I'm convincing myself it's gonna happen.

1628
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,839
Speaker 3: Why if you're in this mode, day would look like tomorrow.

1629
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 14: I can will yourself to win.

1630
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 12: I'll put it this way.

1631
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,879
Speaker 3: Have any teams ever gone on runs before?

1632
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 6: Oh?

1633
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, NC State, you cant.

1634
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 3: Cardiac you can.

1635
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 14: I mean I just made three off the top of

1636
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 14: my head.

1637
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 3: Loyola Chicago. Wow, there you go, Coast. Those guys get

1638
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 3: in the tournament though. Are we talking about the real

1639
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: tournament or the Big twelve?

1640
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 7: Just to get in? Whatever we got to do to

1641
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 7: get in over the next two or three days.

1642
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 19: Oh my gosh, buddy, I've talked myself into every freaking scenario.

1643
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 19: I know Tony's been saying, gotta beat Arizona. I'm looking

1644
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 19: at ways where we can just win too. Give me

1645
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 19: two wins, and I hope all the bubble teams fall

1646
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 19: like they did on Saturday. Okay, I'm talking myself into that.

1647
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 19: So Santa Clair didn't help us last night.

1648
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 14: I won't lie. That's not good.

1649
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 19: Not not a good start.

1650
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 7: Stanford needs to lose today, Virginia Tech needs to lose,

1651
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 7: and we're off to a great start for the conference.

1652
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 12: Turn that is correct, sir?

1653
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 14: All right, all right, boys, I just had.

1654
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 25: To get in.

1655
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm fired out. Let's go, let's do it.

1656
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 19: Happy birthday tone going.

1657
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 3: Thank you? There he is.

1658
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what that is, do a wellness check

1659
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 7: in Sharonville.

1660
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 3: That is. I love Mason, I really do, but I

1661
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 3: worry about a complete lack of any sort of relationship

1662
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: with reality. Listen, here's my here's my concern.

1663
01:29:59,680 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 5: You.

1664
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 3: In just over an hour plays the sixteen seed Utah

1665
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 3: in the Big twelve Tournament. They're ten and a half

1666
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 3: point favorites. They should win if they do. And that

1667
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 3: was Maso's energy today. I'm gonna regret not being on

1668
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 3: the air tomorrow to figure out what would have been

1669
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 3: like tomorrow. I worry about Maso if things advance. One thing,

1670
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: speaking of advancing sixteen days to red Spring Training or

1671
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 3: to Red's opening day. They're at spring training right now,

1672
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 3: right now, you look at a guy like Noelve Marte,

1673
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 3: and I don't think you can go wrong with Marte.

1674
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 3: What about Colin Moran, Noelvie Marte no longer number six,

1675
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 3: He switched from it, switched to number four, which I

1676
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:40,919
Speaker 3: don't mind.

1677
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 12: Of course.

1678
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 3: Tucker Barnhardt terrible. Do you remember the great season that

1679
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 3: Edgar Renteria had. I do. I remember going to a game.

1680
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 3: I think Edgar Renteria had like a walk off, hitting

1681
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:56,799
Speaker 3: like a fourteen inning game. I love it. Todd Hollinsworth, Yeah,

1682
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 3: that's the person that exists. Wow, I forgot about Todd

1683
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 3: hollins Yep. One lord for the old Cincinnati red Legs. Yeah,

1684
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 3: he's stunk. He was not great in that year for

1685
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 3: the Reds. Now.

1686
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 7: I said this yesterday. Arguably one of my favorite Reds

1687
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 7: of all time war number sixteen was the great Reggie Sanders.

1688
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people feel that way.

1689
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 7: That was kind of like the prime of my youth.

1690
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 7: I remember going to a ton of games at Jose

1691
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 7: Rijo's house as it was named for me. But Reggie

1692
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 7: Sanders was one of my favorite all time Reds growing up. Yeah,

1693
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 7: and of course him donning the number sixteen well roster.

1694
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 3: Of course, ron Oaster for a long time don number sixteen.

1695
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 3: You of course had Jimmy Stewart prior to him. And

1696
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 3: how about Leo Cardonis. How could you forget? I went

1697
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 3: to a Reds game last year, I think maybe two

1698
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 3: years ago it was. It was one of the Bobblehead Nights.

1699
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 3: It was a City Connect Friday. We're sitting along the

1700
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 3: first baseline and this elderly gentleman and his family come

1701
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 3: and sit next to me, and I'm thinking, I know

1702
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 3: that guy. I know that guy. And then finally he

1703
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 3: turns around. It's Leo Cardoness. Wow, just sitting in the

1704
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 3: stands with us, with his family, and people would come up,

1705
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 3: ask for autographs, ask for pictures. He signed up, he

1706
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 3: took pictures. He was awesome, nice. So he became a

1707
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 3: favorite of mine. That's very cool. What about old hub

1708
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 3: Walker back in the day middle Dame Cap can't go

1709
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 3: away from it, Hubcap. Have you ever been to the

1710
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 3: hub Cap daddy of Cincinnati? I have not. That's a thing.

1711
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 3: What about less Scarcella? I want more Scarcella?

1712
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 7: I mean from thirty five to thirty seven, he played first,

1713
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 7: he played left, he played right. He was there Spencer Steer, oh,

1714
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 7: of course, before moving on in nineteen forty and playing with.

1715
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 3: The Boston Bes right did less sixteen days. Sounds like

1716
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 3: he did more sixteen.

1717
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 7: Days away from uh Cincinnati Red's opening days.

1718
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 3: I feel like it's going fastest year it actually is.

1719
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 3: We're actually getting closer. Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel

1720
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 3: like it's going quickly.

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Speaker 7: Let's update everything going on in the National Football League.

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Speaker 7: When we return to kick off, our number three We've

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Speaker 7: got more of your phone calls. Five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 7: four nine, fifteen thirty, and I think a deeper dive

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Speaker 7: is in store for the Hunter Green situation that's happening

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Speaker 7: with the Cincinnati Reds. It all happens in the final hour,

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Speaker 7: along with the return of Moagger back from Goodyear on

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Speaker 7: the air today. He'll join us an hour number three

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Speaker 7: as well on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 15: Here we go.

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Speaker 7: Our three Cincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 7: Good to have you along. Thanks for joining us. One

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Speaker 7: more hour to go. Phone lines are open. Five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 7: four nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 33: Uh.

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01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 3: The Chargers and quarterback Deane Leonard have agreed to a

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Speaker 3: one year, two million dollar deal.

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Speaker 7: Which he's a big special teams performer. He stays in LA.

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Speaker 7: That is the latest happening in the National Football League.

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Speaker 7: Let's talk a little more Austin about Hunter Green and

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01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Reads. It was reported earlier today our good

1744
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 7: friend Charlie Goldsmith. I'm using Charlie's Chalkboard, which is fantastic.

1745
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 7: If you don't follow along and subscribe with Charlie's Chalkboard,

1746
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,799
Speaker 7: you are missing out on a ton. But we were

1747
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 7: made aware last week of the news around Hunter Green

1748
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 7: and the elbow issue that he was going through. And

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01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 7: actually in this piece, Nick Crawl kind of could tell

1750
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 7: early on in spring training because he wasn't throwing his

1751
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,799
Speaker 7: split finger at all. He was having trouble pulling his slider.

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01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 7: So here's the timeline. Last year, Hunter Green dealt with

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01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 7: elbow disco in the final month of the season. In

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01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 7: late October, he met with doctor Neil Elatrosh and it

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01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 7: was recommended that Hunter Green did a PRP injection. The

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01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 7: injection helped Hunter Green felt better in the offseason, but

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01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 7: then a week before spring training, hunter Green felt the

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01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 7: discomfort again and it has ultimately led to where we're

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01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 7: at now. And where we're at now is Hunter Green

1760
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 7: scheduling to have a scope of his elbow tomorrow to

1761
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 7: remove loose bodies and bone chips. Fourteen to sixteen week

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01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 7: is the timeline for Hunter Green where he hopes to

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01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 7: be back on the mound at some point in July.

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01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 7: Says Charlie Goldsmith. Now, the part that I think stood

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01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 7: out to you, I know, Austin, and to me right

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01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 7: away was this quote from Terry Francona about Hunter Green

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01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 7: at the end of last year. He never told me

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Speaker 7: directly any of that. He has mentioned it to Derek Johnson.

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Speaker 7: He was always telling me he was good. I like

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01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 7: the way he was pitching. The trainers were never gonna

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01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 7: send someone out there if they shouldn't pitch or play. Ever,

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01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 7: it's hard sometimes if you sat everybody, you'd never have

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01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 7: a team. You can't see inside people's bodies. It can

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01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 7: be a little difficult. And to be clear, you can

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01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 7: see inside bodies with an MRI or an X ray

1776
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 7: or anything like that. But let's start there. Austin, he

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01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 7: never told me directly. He was always telling me he

1778
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 7: was good. What do you make of that chain of

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01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 7: command in those conversations between Hunter Green, who was obviously

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01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 7: telling Derek Johnson he wasn't good, and what he was

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01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 7: telling the head coach or the manager for the Reds.

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Speaker 3: I think there's two ways to look at it. Number One,

1783
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 3: Hunter Green wants to pitch, he wants to compete, he

1784
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 3: wants to help the Reds get to the playoffs. He

1785
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 3: felt like he was good enough to do that, so

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01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna raise an alarm about his elbow to

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01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 3: Terry Francona, and I think there's probably some validity to that.

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01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:05,640
Speaker 3: If you look at hunter Green's last five starts, he

1789
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 3: was fantastic in every single one of them except one.

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01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 3: On September thirteenth in Sacramento, he pitched two and a

1791
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 3: third innings, gave up five earned runs a couple of homers.

1792
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 3: The Reds lost that game to the A's, but at

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01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 3: the beginning of September, he went six and the thirds,

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01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 3: gave up one run, Red's one. On September seventh against

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01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 3: the Mets, huge game win, seven innings, gave up one run,

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01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 3: Reds one, the Cubs game on September eighteenth, complete game, shutout,

1797
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 3: nine innings, gave up just one hit, struck out nine,

1798
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 3: and the final game of the season, his final start

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01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 3: of the season against Pittsburgh. They lost the game, but

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Speaker 3: he went six innings and gave up just two runs.

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01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 3: So clearly the ability, despite dealing with the elbow was there,

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01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 3: and so Hunter Green afterwards talks to Neil Elatrosh and

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01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 3: after pitching really well down the stretch. Elatrosh says, you

1804
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 3: might be good with just an injection, so he does that.

1805
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 3: I don't blame him, especially considering how well he pitched

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01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 3: through that, to think, Okay, I can still pitch through

1807
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 3: this and it's not as big of a deal maybe

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01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 3: as I think, especially with the consultation with the best

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01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 3: elbow doctor in the world that says, hey, I think

1810
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 3: this is going to help you. Now that I understand

1811
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,560
Speaker 3: that part of it and that he met with Neil Elatrosh,

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01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 3: it makes more sense to me. But I also can't

1813
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 3: help but think, if this is going to be a

1814
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 3: long term issue, if this is going to be something

1815
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 3: I have to pitch through constantly, why not get it

1816
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 3: cleaned up right away? But to your point, the fact

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01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 3: that he's communicating with Terry Francona through Derek Johnson, I

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01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 3: think that's cause for concern.

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01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess My only thought is, as you mentioned,

1820
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 7: why not just clean it out so it never becomes

1821
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 7: it doesn't become a problem again, Like put it past you,

1822
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 7: use the off season rest and make sure you're one

1823
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:09,719
Speaker 7: hundred percent healthy. It's a player that's been compromised every year.

1824
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 7: Why run the risk of putting it putting it out

1825
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:21,719
Speaker 7: there in that way. Why run the risk of allowing

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01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 7: this door to be open to where the injection ultimately

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01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 7: doesn't work and now you've wasted a whole off season

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01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 7: and you've put yourself well behind.

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Speaker 3: I think the best explanation for that is nobody wants

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01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 3: to have surgery if you don't have to have surgery. Yeah,

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01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 3: I could see. I could see that.

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01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 7: But for Hunter Green, who's dealt with multiple different things

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01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 7: and has kind of by the way he talked, I

1834
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 7: thought Hunter Green knew he's had these for a while.

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01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 7: Get him cleaned up, move on, don't allow it to

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01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 7: become even more of an issue.

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01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 3: Regardless. Now it is an issue.

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01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 7: Now Hunter Green is going to be out till at

1839
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 7: some point, probably in July, everything goes well, that being

1840
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 7: the case, Austin, can this team survive a team that

1841
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 7: has a small margin freyre already? Can this team survive

1842
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 7: with Chase Brown's Rehet Louder or Chase Burns Reht Louder,

1843
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 7: Brandon Williamson picking up some of those starts?

1844
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think so. I was asked this morning,

1845
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 3: how does this change the outlook for the Reds? And

1846
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 3: I said, hopefully not that much. I mean, if Louder

1847
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 3: and Burns are who we think they are, and the

1848
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 3: offense is better like we expect it to be, then

1849
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 3: they should be able to withstand that stretch of time

1850
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 3: without putting themselves in a complete hole. In the National

1851
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 3: League Central, you would think, how much pressure does it

1852
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 3: put on you know, let's say a blister from Nicolodolo,

1853
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 3: yeah or something. I mean, it completely cuts down the

1854
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 3: margin Freyr, especially with an Abbot and Lodolo at the

1855
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 3: top of that rotation. And it's not like any of

1856
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 3: those dudes have really been dominant in spring training. Abbot's

1857
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:03,759
Speaker 3: been okay, Lodolo's been fine, Louder and Burns have been okay,

1858
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 3: They've been fine. Brady Singer, I feel like he's barely pitched.

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01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like I've not heard anything about Brady

1860
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 7: Singer either way.

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01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, that's fine. And then I think the

1862
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 3: bullpen has the worst era in baseball in spring training,

1863
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,759
Speaker 3: which is not a good idea, not a good sign.

1864
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 3: I guess you could say I'm always stuck because I

1865
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 3: don't feel like it's right to come up with an

1866
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 3: opinion based off what happens in goodyear, but also, this

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01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 3: is all I have to go off of. I can't

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01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:35,959
Speaker 3: really go off of last year.

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01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 7: And and the issue becomes, what is Everything we talked

1870
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 7: about with this offense in the offseason was based on

1871
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,719
Speaker 7: the premise of what they've got such a good pitching staff,

1872
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 7: they just got to be an okay offense, right if

1873
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 7: the pitching staff takes another hit, is this offense equipped

1874
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 7: to carry the load and score enough runs consistently based

1875
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 7: on what we've seen you hope again, everything is built

1876
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 7: off the yifts and the hopes that we've talked about,

1877
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 7: But everything around this offense was built in the sense

1878
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 7: of and they just got to be an okay offense

1879
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 7: because their pitching is going to be so good and

1880
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 7: the ceiling of their staff is one of the top

1881
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 7: five staffs in all of baseball. And now all of

1882
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 7: a sudden you start to talk in a little bit

1883
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 7: different sense because there is an unknown with Hunter Green

1884
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 7: and let's call it what it is. For a long

1885
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,719
Speaker 7: time now, there has been an unknown with Nick Ldolo

1886
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 7: and the consistency of which he can make starts, and

1887
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 7: all that now comes into question going forward. There was

1888
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 7: one positive that happened with the Reds yesterday, and that

1889
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 7: was Reyes Hines hit a ball that has the ball

1890
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 7: actually landed one nineteen off the bat.

1891
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 3: I think it was.

1892
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Speaker 7: You mentioned earlier about a possible outfield problem for the

1893
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Reds, and I don't think an outfield problem that

1894
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 7: many thought we were going to be talking about. But

1895
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 7: is the outfield Austin has said as we thought it was,

1896
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 7: or are there players that are making a little bit

1897
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:02,879
Speaker 7: of a push.

1898
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 3: At this I don't think it's ever been set. I mean,

1899
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 3: other than TJ Friedel, I mean, Noelvi Marte has not

1900
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 3: had a good spring training, Spencer Steer still hasn't played

1901
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 3: that position at all. JJ Blude and Will Benson are

1902
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 3: seemingly going pound for pound every single opportunity. And then,

1903
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Reese Hines continues to improve his plate

1904
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 3: discipline and his defense has gotten better. He's one of

1905
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,799
Speaker 3: the fastest players in the organization and has incredible power.

1906
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I think the way that that

1907
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 3: whole thing shakes out, I'm just really confused by the

1908
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 3: Spencer Steer aspect because I thought he would be playing

1909
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 3: more and I understand it's hard to play outfield in Arizona.

1910
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 3: But hell, I mean that all of a sudden feels

1911
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 3: like one of the deepest positions in the organization after

1912
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 3: years of futility.

1913
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's take a break, let's come back. We'll put

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01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 7: a bow on this red conversation. I want to look

1915
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 7: at a little bit from a mock draft standpoint of

1916
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 7: how things stand after day one of the legal tampering

1917
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 7: period and what day one meant to the rest of

1918
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 7: the AFC North. We'll do that along with the phone

1919
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 7: call or to next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: From locker room whispers to stadium roars, He's got it all,

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Speaker 1: Moeger Today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty sixteen

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Speaker 1: rules you would win.

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Speaker 3: We're heating up again in the National Football League. A Yeah,

1924
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:40,799
Speaker 3: things get a little hands, things get a little warmer.

1925
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 3: You've got a couple of moves happening over the break.

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01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 3: One of the top wide receiver targets has found a

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01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 3: home Romeo Dobbs, Romeo Romeo where for artdal Romeo is

1928
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 3: going to the AFC champion New England Patriots. O Romeo

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Speaker 3: Dobbs lands in New England. Meanwhile, well, also in the

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Speaker 3: AFC East, I'm coming home. I'm coming home. Tell the

1931
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:09,879
Speaker 3: world tone I'm coming home. Oh. The Raiders have traded

1932
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 3: Geno Smith back to the New York Jets. Wow, it

1933
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 3: is a sixth and seventh round pickswap sending Geno back

1934
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 3: to New York. He of course began his career there

1935
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 3: and is expected to be the starting quarterback for the

1936
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 3: New York Jets. Geno Smith first on the move for

1937
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 3: the Raiders to the Jets. Also, I saw Colts offensive

1938
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 3: tackle Braydon Smith. Yes, has reached a deal with the

1939
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:40,719
Speaker 3: Houston Texans two years, twenty five million. So the Texans

1940
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:44,799
Speaker 3: actually do something to try to protect C. J. Stroud.

1941
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 3: I saw that the Texans had apparently had some issues

1942
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 3: with the contract structures, like the NFL denied the contracts

1943
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 3: that they submitted, and apparently it's like a described as semantics.

1944
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what that means, but I did

1945
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 3: think imagine if the Bengals had submitted a contract the

1946
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 3: NFL was like, oh my gosh, you imagine what people

1947
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 3: would be saying now. I don't want to even think

1948
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 3: about it. Back to that in just a second. Let's

1949
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 3: round out the Hunter Green conversation with Mark. What's going on?

1950
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 14: Mark, like, I say, you knowing today?

1951
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 3: Good?

1952
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 33: He yeah, I just want to something to think about

1953
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 33: got Terry Francone who comes in last year as a

1954
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 33: new manager at Hunter Green as the pitchion that's number

1955
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 33: one and been there for a few years. I think

1956
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 33: there's some I don't know if what you want to

1957
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 33: call it, but I think there's some something going on

1958
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 33: between the two of them. The manager comes in, he

1959
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 33: wants to set precedence, and I think his presence was

1960
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 33: basically saying, we don't want to be the team that

1961
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 33: has just a couple of superstars. We want to have

1962
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 33: everybody be as good as they are. And that might

1963
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 33: have just rub Hunter Green, you know a little bit.

1964
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 33: How Who knows, but I think there's something going on

1965
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 33: between the two of them. And then the second thing is,

1966
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 33: do you mean tell me that DK did not go

1967
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 33: to Frank Conah and tell him what Hunter Grant had

1968
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:09,759
Speaker 33: been talking about.

1969
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 3: No, I think he did. I think he did. How

1970
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:13,759
Speaker 3: Frank ConA knew.

1971
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 7: But I but I think the interesting thing is that

1972
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 7: Frank Cone also said that whenever I asked Hunter, he

1973
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 7: said he was fine. So if if Derek Johnson is saying, hey,

1974
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 7: Hunter's telling me he's got some discomfort, and then and

1975
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 7: Frank COONa talks to him and Hunter's like, no, I'm good.

1976
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 7: Then what do you do if you're Terry Francona that

1977
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 7: there is something there that that just doesn't feel normal

1978
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 7: At this point, I don't know what it is, and

1979
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 7: and we don't have knowledge of that, but I could

1980
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 7: see I could see something there, a little bit of

1981
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 7: a crack in the foundation.

1982
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 33: I agree, Thank you apreciated, Thank you appreciate that.

1983
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 7: Thank you. Yeah, I don't I don't know. We don't

1984
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 7: know the behind the scenes dealings of what that looks like.

1985
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 7: But you you probably could come to some type of

1986
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 7: conclusion Austin, that there is a little bit of a.

1987
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 3: Crack in the armor. It just seems weird to me. Yeah,

1988
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 3: that's all. Yep, I have questions about their relationship. That's

1989
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 3: all agreed.

1990
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 7: Let's do this with the AFC North real quick, based

1991
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 7: on what teams around the league and around the AFC

1992
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:16,520
Speaker 7: North did yesterday.

1993
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 3: Let's start with the h.

1994
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:23,600
Speaker 7: The Baltimore Ravens here, because Baltimore is one of the

1995
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 7: most interesting case studies to me Austin because they make

1996
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 7: the huge splash that is Max Crosby. But after Max Crosby,

1997
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 7: this team has lost Isaiah Likely. They lost their best

1998
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 7: blocking tight end and Charlie Kohler. They lost an all

1999
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 7: pro center and Tyler Linderbaum. They lost their number two

2000
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 7: running back all around, Lamar Jackson. They have an offensive

2001
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 7: coordinator who's not called plays in the in the the

2002
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 7: National Football League yet. And yes, you are better on

2003
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 7: defense you have added Max Crosby, But are we viewing

2004
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 7: the Ravens as that much better at this point on defense?

2005
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 3: Maybe?

2006
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 7: But are we overlooking how many losses this team have

2007
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 7: sustained on the offensive side of the ball with a

2008
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 7: quarterback in Lamar Jackson who wasn't necessarily playing his best

2009
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 7: football down the stretch.

2010
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 3: Last year, six players gone. Two first round picks gone

2011
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 3: Max Crosby in return. Now, they did get the most

2012
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:22,600
Speaker 3: compensatory picks of any team with four, tied for the

2013
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 3: most with Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in this coming draft because

2014
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 3: of they had the same situation happened last year where

2015
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 3: they lost a bunch of players and didn't necessarily recoup

2016
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:38,719
Speaker 3: that in free agency. So you know, I was talking

2017
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 3: to you about this before the show. Yeah, the Max

2018
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 3: Crosby thing is a big deal. But their offensive line

2019
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 3: was no good last year. And as of now, Kevin

2020
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 3: Zeitler is a free agent. I mean, I know he's

2021
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 3: moved on to other places, but that's somebody that was

2022
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 3: a potential fit for them. Like they have to go

2023
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 3: up against Miles Garrett twice a year, they have to

2024
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 3: go up against TJ. Watt twice a year. And I'm

2025
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 3: not putting boy A Mafey and Miles Murphy on those

2026
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 3: guys level, But all of a sudden, the Bengals pass

2027
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 3: rush is a lot more formidable, and you would think

2028
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 3: that would help the interior based off the stuff that

2029
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 3: you got to worry about on the outside. And the

2030
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 3: same goes for Pittsburgh. Their best offensive lineman left, I believe,

2031
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 3: went to the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, their offensive line stinks too.

2032
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 3: It was bad last year, and they have to face

2033
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett twice. They have to face Max Crosby twice,

2034
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 3: and you could say the same thing for Pittsburgh. For Cleveland,

2035
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 3: They've spent a lot of money on their offensive line.

2036
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 3: Last couple of days, made a trade for Titus Howard,

2037
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 3: that's still a big weakness for them, and they have

2038
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 3: to face Watt and Crosby and the Bengals twice a

2039
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 3: year as well. I look around and I'm thinking, all right,

2040
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 3: Bengals still have the best offensive line of the division,

2041
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 3: and it's really not even close right now, despite the

2042
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 3: fact that they have to go up against Watt, Crosby

2043
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 3: and Garrett six times in the season, there's still major

2044
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 3: problems on the offense of every single one of those teams.

2045
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 3: Cleveland and Pittsburgh don't have a quarterback, right Lamar Jackson

2046
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 3: has no weapons to throw to. Like, still looking at

2047
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 3: the division and looking at the schedule, and now that

2048
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 3: the defense is marginally and you can't, right you can't

2049
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,799
Speaker 3: set it in Stone that the Bengals have a great defense.

2050
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 3: It's way too early. And shout out to Stone being

2051
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 3: Gino signed you You just you feel a lot better

2052
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,799
Speaker 3: right now about their chances and know that the Bengals

2053
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 3: have had a lot of work to do, but so

2054
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 3: too does the rest of the division, and the Bengals

2055
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 3: I think are ahead of them.

2056
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was interesting

2057
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 7: how much they've lost on the offensive side of the ball.

2058
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh. You mentioned that the losses they do add Michael Pittman,

2059
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 3: they get Jamel Dean and Rico Dowdell along with a

2060
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 3: new coach and Mike McCarthy. I will say I really

2061
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 3: like the Rico Dowdell signing. That just feels like the

2062
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 3: type of runner they want. He's a smart player, he's

2063
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 3: good in the past game. Dk Metcalf still there, fire moves.

2064
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 3: He's kind of like Kenneth gain Well, but a better

2065
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 3: actual running back. I think that's a good move for Pittsburgh.

2066
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 7: And then the Cleveland Browns, they they went and got

2067
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:12,799
Speaker 7: a couple offensive lineman yesterday, Zion Johnson and Titus Howard.

2068
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 3: They did sign Quincy Williams Devin Bush, and Devin Bush

2069
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 3: played well for them last year, so that's probably about

2070
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 3: as good as you can do and trying to replace

2071
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 3: that specific position. But I'm with you. I mean, all

2072
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 3: the defenses are going to be good. I think now

2073
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 3: the Bengals probably still have the furthest to go on

2074
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball, but they have the

2075
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 3: best offense by far.

2076
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I I do. I just I feel like there's

2077
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 7: just a lot of there's a lot out there of Ravens,

2078
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 7: Ravens Ravens and Max Crosby. That team, there's just so

2079
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 7: much they lost on offense field. Yates of ESPN dot

2080
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 7: Com did a h a free agency prediction based on

2081
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 7: kind of the the first day of free agency and

2082
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 7: what happened and now what teams needs may look like.

2083
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 7: Listen to some of these changes. Now, Austin Fernando Mendoza

2084
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 7: is still number one, and we both are in agreement.

2085
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 7: We like what the Raiders have done to this point.

2086
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 7: It feels like they've signed a ton of people and

2087
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 7: they still got a ton of money left. But the

2088
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:18,600
Speaker 7: Raiders have done some good things up to this point.

2089
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 7: The New York Jets at number two take David Bailey.

2090
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 7: Rvel Reese moves up to number three with the Arizona Cardinals.

2091
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:29,759
Speaker 7: Carnell Tate now goes to number four to the Tennessee Titans.

2092
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 7: After they just got Wandell Robinson in free agency, they

2093
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 7: get cam Ward another weapon. Caleb Downs goes at number

2094
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 7: five to the New York Giants. Francis Malayaga, no, dang it,

2095
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 7: give it one more shot. I don't know, Mauiinoa, Yes,

2096
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 7: Francis and the Browns get another offensive line, and they

2097
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 7: completely revamped their offensive line. Jeremiah loved to the commanders

2098
01:53:55,280 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 7: at number seven, they I'm blaming they lay into a

2099
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 7: premiere pass rusher yesterday as well.

2100
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 3: That would be okay, yes, So.

2101
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 7: They go running back the New Orleans Saints they take

2102
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 7: Sunny Styles at number nine. The Kansas City's Chiefs take

2103
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 7: Mansord Delaney, which means in Field Yates. Post Day one

2104
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 7: mock draft, the Bengals land Ruben Bain Junior at number ten.

2105
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I would be all for that. Sign me up,

2106
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 3: Ruben Bain Junior, boy a mafe Brian Cook Leo'shanell. Maybe Oh,

2107
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 3: can we talk that into existence and make that happen?

2108
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 3: Come on with that now? Are you surprised it's been

2109
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 3: as quiet as it has been today? Uh?

2110
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 19: No.

2111
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 3: I feel like this happens every year. Or starts off

2112
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 3: really really quick and then there's just a breakdown for

2113
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 3: a second, and I figure by the end of the

2114
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 3: day there'll be some more. Yeah. I also saw some

2115
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 3: people say they expect a lot more trades to happen.

2116
01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 3: We haven't really talked about that possibility with the Bengals. Yeah,

2117
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 3: And I thought Andre Piata, friend of the show kind

2118
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 3: of explained a potential trade like Kenny Clark potentially for

2119
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 3: the Bengals, just because of again, there's nobody in that

2120
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 3: defensive tackle market that you feel comfortable with now that

2121
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 3: the gosh was it the Titans someone earlier today released

2122
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle, Ashan Robinson, which is a name that

2123
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 3: I think had been linked to the Bengals in free

2124
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 3: agency in years past. So maybe you take a flyer

2125
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 3: on a guy like that. But yeah, I wonder if

2126
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 3: there is a bj Hill like trade to be had

2127
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 3: out there where you flip one of those extra seventh

2128
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 3: round picks you have or one of those sixth round

2129
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 3: picks that you have, and you get a rotational piece

2130
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 3: on the defensive interior. I mean, obviously the bj Hill

2131
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 3: trade is probably the best in Bengals history. It would

2132
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 3: be asking a lot to do that again. But hell,

2133
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 3: maybe they could.

2134
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 7: Would be nice. But I think or you could just

2135
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 7: draft you know, Atkins and fourth round. Well, yeah, you're right,

2136
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 7: Geno Atkins is available. Essentially, is Gino available?

2137
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 6: Like?

2138
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 3: What's he doing? He seems to be having a lovely life.

2139
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 3: Is he that busy right now? He's got a ton

2140
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 3: of kids? Yeah, he's got a bunch of kids, and

2141
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 3: I mean good for him. I've been follow him around

2142
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 3: on Instagram for a while and Gino is just one

2143
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 3: of my favorite athletes ever. All right, just the free honster.

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Speaker 3: It's a shame he's all happy in retirement, doesn't want

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Speaker 3: to come back.

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Speaker 19: I know.

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Speaker 3: Uh, let's take one final break before U. By the way,

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Speaker 3: quick hits today when we get back a phone caller

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Speaker 3: two five, one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty, and

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Speaker 3: maybe we'll talk about how the Reds are going to

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Speaker 3: take the field today against the Colorado Rockies on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Moeger here, if you're a Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back it is since he three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 7: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Uh, let's go. Let's grab

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Speaker 7: a phone line. Call here real quick, Mike. What's going on?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, Thank you very much the very informative show today.

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Speaker 12: I learned a lot, so I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, of course. I I'm so proud of the Bengals.

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Speaker 12: I'm just I haven't been able to say this for

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Speaker 12: a long time, but I'm almost emotional about the fact

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Speaker 12: that they're doing something that looks like they care about

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Speaker 12: the city of Cincinnati and the fans of Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 12: that's all I care about, more than anything else, more

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Speaker 12: than Joe Burrow, more than Mike Brown, more than Duke

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Speaker 12: Tom and I care about the people of Cincinnati that

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Speaker 12: have been devout fans and have endured a lot of

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Speaker 12: crap and have hung in there. So it looks like

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Speaker 12: maybe we're making some strides. And I love the fact

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Speaker 12: that they got to simone guy out of out of Seattle.

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Speaker 12: I just I have an affinity for Samoan football players

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Speaker 12: because they're just really partly very very tough, tough, tough players.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they and I think they sent a

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Speaker 7: message that they have heard a lot of of what's

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Speaker 7: being talked about them in the offseason and a lot

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Speaker 7: of the words that they've said, and more importantly, I

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Speaker 7: think they understand how important it is to attack this

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Speaker 7: offseason much differently than they've done in the past. And

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Speaker 7: again from Dalton Reisner and and people called that a layup,

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Speaker 7: and I agree it was. But from the Dalton Reisner

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Speaker 7: signing to moving on from Trey Hendrickson, which seems like

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Speaker 7: the right decision that was made. Now to so many

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Speaker 7: other things. It feels like they have They've started this

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Speaker 7: offseason in this period very well.

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Speaker 12: Has the I haven't been able to keep up with

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Speaker 12: that puts it like you guys. But has the activity

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Speaker 12: slowed down a little bit today on the free agency?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's not been as much that's happened up to

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Speaker 7: this point. I think the the latest movement was Geno

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Speaker 7: Smith heading back to the the the Jets for the Raiders,

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Speaker 7: so a quarterback on the move, and the the Houston

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Speaker 7: Texans finally got some blocking up front for CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Tony, you know, it's kind of funny with Gino Smith.

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Speaker 12: You know, people go on you know Smith, who's just

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Speaker 12: been around. He said, the guys made a great license

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Speaker 12: in the NFL, yep for not being the top line quarterback.

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Speaker 12: And I have the utmost respect for him for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: I mean that's.

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Speaker 7: Not easy, right Tom No, for sure, for sure, he's

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Speaker 7: he's one about it the right way and there are

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Speaker 7: people that look at negatively on his season last year,

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Speaker 7: but it was also very dysfunctional with the Raiders as well.

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Speaker 7: So an opportunity at another fresh start and kind of

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Speaker 7: going back to where it started for for Geno Smith.

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Speaker 12: Now let me ask luck you guys, and I know

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Speaker 12: you got to go, But if you had to pick,

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Speaker 12: who would you say? Are the two? What two teams

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Speaker 12: have been the most successful in you were in your

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Speaker 12: opinions so far after day one.

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Speaker 3: Austin, who would you who stands out to you? I

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Speaker 3: think the Raiders. I think the Bengals. Bears have done

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Speaker 3: a lot. The Bears have done a lot.

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Speaker 7: Panthers have been very active as well. They actually just

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Speaker 7: re signed their versatile linebacker Isaiah Simmons, the player from

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Speaker 7: Clemson as well. So I like what the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 7: have done as well.

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Speaker 25: So are we.

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Speaker 12: Still looking for a possible replacement for mister Brown at

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Speaker 12: left tackle?

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Speaker 3: I think that could be on the table at some point.

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Speaker 3: I think they need to address linebacker. If I had

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Speaker 3: a checklist of what's next, I would say linebacker needs

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Speaker 3: to be addressed for this team. I think a backup

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Speaker 3: or swing tackle, the person that you know would take

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Speaker 3: Cody Ford's spot is on the list of things that

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Speaker 3: they're gonna look at and potentially to challenge Orlando Brown

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Speaker 3: in training camp.

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Speaker 12: Yes, all right, thank you, guys, I appreciate it. Have

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Speaker 12: a great day.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Mike, appreciate that. Do we have a lineup

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Speaker 7: today for how the Reds are gonna line this thing up?

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Speaker 3: We sure do. We haven't done one of these in

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Speaker 3: a while. I know it feels like it's been a

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Speaker 3: while since we've had a Reds lineup, but I guess

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Speaker 3: some updated batting at it. They keep playing games, and

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Speaker 3: they'll be playing one today in Scottsdale, up against the

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Speaker 3: Colorado Rockies. Here's how the Reds are lining up. Line

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Speaker 3: them up. Leading off the DHTJ Freedom batting second. The

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Speaker 3: second baseman Sal Stewart. The third batter is shortstop Elie

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Speaker 3: de la Cruz, cleaning up and batting, cleaning up and

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Speaker 3: playing right field. See I'm a little rusty, JJ Bleda.

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Speaker 3: The fifth batter is left fielder will Benson. Nathaniel low

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Speaker 3: bats sixty plays first base today. The catcher is seventh

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Speaker 3: batter Jose Travino, batting eighth and in center field Reese Hines.

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Speaker 3: The ninth batter is third baseman PJ. Higgins, with the

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Speaker 3: left hander Brandon Williamson on the mound. Once more. For Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: it's Friedel Stuart De la Cruz, Blade Benson, Lowe Travino

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Speaker 3: Hines Higgins with Williamson on the mound. All right, baseball

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Speaker 3: in Arizona for the Cincinnati Reds. We'll get to Moaker

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Speaker 3: who was in Arizona in just a few moments. One

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Speaker 3: quick note college basketball wise, the Big Twelve Tournament is

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Speaker 3: underway right now, the Phillips sixty six Big Twelve Tournament.

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Speaker 3: With one second remaining, were you giving them some free club?

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Speaker 3: Who's Phillip sixty to who? I don't know. Well, maybe

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Speaker 3: they're going to come on board with us here, I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 7: With a second remaining, Arizona State leads Baylor eighty three

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Speaker 7: to seventy nine. Arizona State is going to move on

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Speaker 7: and they will take on Iowa State. With one second remaining,

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Speaker 7: down four, Arizona State has the ball. The Baylor head

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Speaker 7: coach just called a timeout, which I just don't understand.

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Speaker 7: Just let this game end because waiting by patiently and

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Speaker 7: I'm guessing twenty to thirty minutes in between games is

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Speaker 7: what you get. Once this game wraps up, you'll get

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Speaker 7: an official start time for game number two in the

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Speaker 7: Big Twelve Tournament, which is Cincinnati taking on Utah. Rest

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Speaker 7: of the day BYU Kansas State, Colorado, Oklahoma State as well.

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Speaker 7: So that's what's next this afternoon. And I think Austin

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Speaker 7: we talked about this off air today. I think it's

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Speaker 7: a game wes Miller has to win. I think if

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Speaker 7: they somehow lose as a twelve and a half point

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Speaker 7: favorite in Round one of the Big Twelve Tournament, after

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Speaker 7: they had a chance to get the sixth seed on

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Speaker 7: Saturday and turn the ball over nineteen times, if they

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Speaker 7: fall from that to the nine and then lose to

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Speaker 7: the sixteen seed despite what they did down the stretch,

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Speaker 7: that might be enough that they would look to move

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Speaker 7: on from Wes Miller. I think if they get a

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Speaker 7: win today and get to eighteen wins on the season

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Speaker 7: and have a chance to play UCF tomorrow, then I

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Speaker 7: think you got a chance to get to that game

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Speaker 7: on Thursday against Arizona for a chance, an outside chance

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Speaker 7: to get yourself into the bubble picture. Let's take our

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Speaker 7: final break. We'll come back. We'll welcome moeggerback right here

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Speaker 7: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station to WIE.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes.

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Speaker 1: Since he three sixty, he was.

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Speaker 3: Looking for Mo. Moe's back, sun kissed from the desert.

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Speaker 3: How was Arizona?

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Speaker 5: Mo?

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Speaker 3: It's good to have you back.

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Speaker 13: Arizona was awesome. Weather looked decent. We got I think

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Speaker 13: eighty seven degrees on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: All you brought back this This is nice. It's been nice.

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Speaker 3: I came back yesterday. I felt like just a continuation

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Speaker 3: of the trip. It was.

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Speaker 13: I saw five games in four days and an absolute blast.

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Speaker 7: When you were out there, did you see Hunter and

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Speaker 7: Terry Francona talking at all?

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Speaker 13: I think Hunter Green talked to me about as much

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Speaker 13: as he talks to his manager or anybody else.

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Speaker 3: Austin mast earlier, does Tito the Great? Is that? How

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Speaker 3: Hunter refers to Terry Francona as well, the Magnificent? What

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Speaker 3: would have been funny if? If?

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Speaker 14: When?

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Speaker 3: If? When Tito was asked about Hunter Green, He's like,

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Speaker 3: who who? This is odd? Right? Yes?

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Speaker 7: The chain of command, the lack of communication, getting the

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Speaker 7: inject at the end of last year. Now, going on

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Speaker 7: the scope, all of this is just weird, especially the

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Speaker 7: communication or lack thereof between a player and a manager.

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Speaker 3: It just feels like there's a disconnect and go back

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Speaker 3: to last year, like it just Hunter and the Reds

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Speaker 3: didn't appear to be on the same page when it

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Speaker 3: came to his return from injury. Disconnect.

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Speaker 13: This feels like an extension of that. But like, you know,

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Speaker 13: I guess, on one hand, you could take today as hey,

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Speaker 13: look it's not season ending, it's not Tommy John.

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Speaker 3: He should be able to pitch this year. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, can you really count on Hunter Green?

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Speaker 13: Like I hate to say that, but there's there's just

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Speaker 13: sort of a build up of things here. And like

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Speaker 13: last year was a leg injury, it was a lower

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Speaker 13: body injury. The two things aren't related, I guess.

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Speaker 14: But it just.

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Speaker 13: I don't you can go, well, he's gonna be here

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Speaker 13: in early July and he'll make seventeen or eighteen starts.

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Speaker 13: Can you count on that, because I don't think you can.

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Speaker 13: What you hope, though, is that over the next two

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Speaker 13: or three months that these two sides can build or relatelationship. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: because it doesn't feel like they have one right now.

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Speaker 13: And like you may think the red should trade Hunter Green. Okay,

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Speaker 13: you may think Hunter Green's overrated or overpaid.

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Speaker 3: That's fine. He is a key piece.

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Speaker 13: It would be great if you didn't have a disconnect

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Speaker 13: with your key piece. That disconnect may be mainly Hunter

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Speaker 13: Green's fault, it may be mainly a reflection of the Reds.

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Speaker 13: I kind of feel like whenever there's a breakdown into relationship,

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Speaker 13: it's the fault of all the parties. But it's got

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Speaker 13: to get fixed. Hunter Green's elbows got to get fixed,

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Speaker 13: and I feel like the relationship between Hunter Green and

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Speaker 13: the Reds also has to get fixed.

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Speaker 7: Basketball coming up in just a few minutes now. Tarn

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Speaker 7: floated an idea yesterday about just live streaming and maybe

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Speaker 7: not having volume, but just your reactions here.

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Speaker 3: We've done this before, have you guys? Have you approved

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Speaker 3: this yet?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, good, Yeah, you sound pumped for it. Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Today today doesn't feel like so much about UC making

2352
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Speaker 13: the NCAA Tournament as much as it feels like if

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Speaker 13: Wes Miller, you do not want to lose this game,

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Speaker 13: because I feel like there's a little bit of a

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Speaker 13: difference between losing today and tomorrow. We're losing against Arizona.

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Speaker 13: You lose this one, you toss terrible Bearkats almost lost

2357
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 13: to them already. Yeah, Like, I feel like if they

2358
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:20,160
Speaker 13: lose today, it's gonna undo a lot of the good

2359
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:22,000
Speaker 13: will built up over the last few weeks. And you

2360
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:25,040
Speaker 13: and I were talking about this earlier, Like, it wasn't

2361
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 13: that they lost on Saturday, it was how sloppy they were.

2362
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was they didn't look that prepared, didn't look

2363
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 3: like a team fighting for their life.

2364
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Speaker 13: Right, No, it did look like last regular season game,

2365
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:39,000
Speaker 13: and you legitimately have something to play for. So if

2366
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 13: we see something like that today and it results in

2367
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:44,000
Speaker 13: a loss, like we're not talking about the bubble, We're

2368
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 13: talking about Wes Miller's bubble maybe bursting. So yeah, I

2369
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:50,640
Speaker 13: guess we're gonna do the chance to watch me watch

2370
02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:53,480
Speaker 13: the game as I try to do a show that's

2371
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:54,440
Speaker 13: gonna be a lot of fun.

2372
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 3: I don't want the bear Cats to spoil your birthday, No, No,

2373
02:07:58,400 --> 02:07:59,800
Speaker 3: I just want to win on my birthday so I

2374
02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 3: can have more hope for tomorrow. Yes, so I have

2375
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:08,400
Speaker 3: an advance and thence they win tomorrow the hope that

2376
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:09,440
Speaker 3: I would have for Thursday.

2377
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Speaker 13: Well, I mean today's day, whether it's Santa Clara tonight,

2378
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 13: whether it's Virginia Tech, Stanford SMU. Like, there's lots of

2379
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:20,959
Speaker 13: teams playing that are in a similar position to Cincinnati

2380
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 13: maybe not the same position as.

2381
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 3: Right now, Stanford's down at eight to Pittsburgh. Yeah, down

2382
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:25,720
Speaker 3: eight at the half.

2383
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 13: If you win today, I think you give yourself another

2384
02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:30,680
Speaker 13: chance to play a game tomorrow that matters. You probably

2385
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 13: still need to win another one after that, but it's

2386
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 13: you know, make tomorrow matter. Make tomorrow when you guys

2387
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 13: are off tomorrow, so you're you're not going to be you.

2388
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:42,680
Speaker 3: Know, we don't know about it could be Thursday to

2389
02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 3: what the Kentucky Wildcats do.

2390
02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:47,520
Speaker 13: So because you guys are off tomorrow and maybe off

2391
02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 13: the rest of the week, I've stolen from you.

2392
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:55,040
Speaker 3: I've stolen Charlie Goldsmith. If you had to go get one,

2393
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 3: you got yours.

2394
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:58,360
Speaker 13: Man, Like I've told him this, Like Charlie, I love

2395
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 13: your work, Like Tony and Austin, you're there guy. But

2396
02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:04,000
Speaker 13: Tarren and I were talking before. It's like, well, they're

2397
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 13: not having him today. They may not work the rest

2398
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 13: of the week. And Charley has been just crushing it

2399
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 13: on the Reds and Bengals, so Charlie's gonna join us.

2400
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:13,919
Speaker 13: Paul Danner Junior in the first hour.

2401
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 3: He's like, Brian Cook, you know your top target. I

2402
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:20,920
Speaker 3: don't know. I flew back yesterday and I woke up.

2403
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 3: Are your arms tired? Ah?

2404
02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 12: There it is.

2405
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:26,840
Speaker 13: I had a two flights. On both flights, I fell

2406
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:29,080
Speaker 13: asleep in one city and I woke up in the next.

2407
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:33,080
Speaker 13: The second flight, plane hits the ground. First thing that happens,

2408
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 13: I get duped by the fake Jordan Schultz. Yeah, first

2409
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 13: time in twelve years. I've been duped by a fake.

2410
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 13: Then you got to put up with all the people lecturing.

2411
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 13: You're like, oh, you can't do that, Like all right, man,

2412
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:43,480
Speaker 13: give me a break.

2413
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:46,080
Speaker 3: Man, Okay, you got me as well, because as you know,

2414
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:48,080
Speaker 3: I have your tweets sent to my phone and have

2415
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 3: for almost fifteen years now, and I'm oh, Mo retweeted it.

2416
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:54,600
Speaker 3: It must be legit, right, And so I went down

2417
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 3: the how I told Terran said, Hey, Bengals got John Franklin.

2418
02:09:57,680 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 13: So here's what I've done to make up for it,

2419
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:02,120
Speaker 13: the real Jordan Schultz on Monday of next week.

2420
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:03,880
Speaker 3: Wow, So that's what I did. Am I good?

2421
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:04,120
Speaker 25: Now?

2422
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:07,360
Speaker 13: Always like Rando's like, you know, you know, hey Mo,

2423
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 13: here's how Twitter works. Like thanks, speaking of I've been

2424
02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 13: on it for seventeen years.

2425
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 3: You weren't on the air yesterday telling people that Trey

2426
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:16,320
Speaker 3: Henderson signed one hundred and ninety million dollar contract with

2427
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys.

2428
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:22,920
Speaker 13: Oh, don't want to be that guy. So anyway, playing

2429
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 13: hits the ground. Yeah, first thing I do, look at

2430
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 13: the woman next to me with that look like, hey,

2431
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 13: I know it's Price Snorrin. Second thing I do is

2432
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,360
Speaker 13: I get duped by the fake Jordan Schultz. Then I

2433
02:10:33,400 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 13: see the Brian Cook news. Oh yeah, you literally could

2434
02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:38,879
Speaker 13: not have hided me. Like if today was my birthday,

2435
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:41,200
Speaker 13: was it? That'd be my birthday present. We are taking

2436
02:10:41,240 --> 02:10:44,800
Speaker 13: my least favorite Bengals player ever and replacing him with

2437
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 13: one of my top five all time favorite UC players,

2438
02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:50,800
Speaker 13: a guy who does specifically what we hated Gino Stone

2439
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:54,839
Speaker 13: for not doing. Who are the other four? Haruki Nakamura Love, Harookie,

2440
02:10:55,040 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 13: Desmond Rinter right, Zach Kolaro's beast, I'll give it to you.

2441
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:05,680
Speaker 13: It's it's her Rookie.

2442
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Tony Pike, Yeah, des Ritter, Brian Cook, and

2443
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 3: it's the other guy who got paid yesterday, Kobe Bryant. Yeah.

2444
02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 13: It was my top five two at the back end

2445
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 13: of that defense. May might not be the five best,

2446
02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 13: but they're my five.

2447
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,960
Speaker 7: Favorite by the way you having Charlie on today. Charlie

2448
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 7: got duped yesterday and Paul Danner Jr. Commented off to

2449
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:28,440
Speaker 7: Twitter jail and Charlie, I thought one of the best

2450
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:31,360
Speaker 7: responses in recent memory, said six more weeks in goodyear

2451
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:31,640
Speaker 7: for me.

2452
02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 3: That's his by the way, his penalty. Does Twitter jail

2453
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 3: mean I don't have to be on it? Oh, because

2454
02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:42,840
Speaker 3: it's a great question, right, Yeah, okay, it was fine

2455
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 3: by me now. Like I was talking like if they

2456
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:48,440
Speaker 3: if they got Lloyd last night, it's like a Grand Slam. Yes,

2457
02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:55,000
Speaker 3: but they hit two, two solid plays yesterday at positions

2458
02:11:55,000 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 3: of need, and they still have the money and resources available.

2459
02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:03,000
Speaker 3: Like if it's next on that list is a linebacker,

2460
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 3: and I think Chanal makes a lot of sense.

2461
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:09,080
Speaker 7: If they crossed that off. Like we talked, Reisner was

2462
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:11,280
Speaker 7: a layup. Yeah, Trey Hendrickson, they made the right move.

2463
02:12:11,320 --> 02:12:13,920
Speaker 7: He's still out there, can't get what he wants, and

2464
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 7: they addressed two big needs, like they've batted one hundred

2465
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 7: so far in the offseason.

2466
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2467
02:12:19,320 --> 02:12:22,320
Speaker 13: I think if if you're able to get one of

2468
02:12:22,360 --> 02:12:26,080
Speaker 13: the better linebackers available and then you know, spend the

2469
02:12:26,360 --> 02:12:30,240
Speaker 13: next few weeks just finding other guys to build depth.

2470
02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 13: You can then really go into the draft going best

2471
02:12:33,320 --> 02:12:36,200
Speaker 13: player available. You can draft an offensive guy, you could

2472
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:39,400
Speaker 13: take your left tackle of the future. They're suddenly to me,

2473
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:41,920
Speaker 13: that's what's really fun about what they've done so far

2474
02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:44,360
Speaker 13: in free agency. I don't think for a second that

2475
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 13: signing Brian Cook means that Caleb Downs is off their board.

2476
02:12:47,320 --> 02:12:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't believe that.

2477
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:52,880
Speaker 13: That signing boy A Mafe makes Ruben Bain not somebody

2478
02:12:52,880 --> 02:12:55,920
Speaker 13: that they would draft. But I just I love the

2479
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:58,840
Speaker 13: idea of you go get three dudes that kind of

2480
02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:02,080
Speaker 13: headline the class, fill in some depth pieces, and then

2481
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:05,320
Speaker 13: you're not drafting out of desperation next month. That's what's

2482
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:08,520
Speaker 13: exciting to me. Look, Duke Tobin has been a punching

2483
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:11,120
Speaker 13: bag and deservedly so. He did what he said he

2484
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 13: was going to do. And the other thing is, and

2485
02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 13: I heard Paul and Charlie and Jay and Mark Shallafoo

2486
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:19,920
Speaker 13: talk about this on Paul's podcast yesterday, they didn't get

2487
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:25,440
Speaker 13: so preoccupied by the John Franklin Myers miss. Yeah, they

2488
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:27,040
Speaker 13: were caught with their pants down as it relates to

2489
02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:31,240
Speaker 13: these other two guys. So that's progress because typically it

2490
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:33,000
Speaker 13: feels like the Bengals can only do one thing at

2491
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 13: a time.

2492
02:13:33,480 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 3: Two quick things.

2493
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Speaker 7: Do you have a problem with Cal Rowley not dopping

2494
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:39,320
Speaker 7: up Randy and Rose Arena at the World Baseball Classical?

2495
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 3: I don't either.

2496
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:43,280
Speaker 7: No, people praise Kobe for running through Palcasol in the Olympics.

2497
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:44,880
Speaker 3: But I do love those World Baseball Classic games have

2498
02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 3: been awesome. Atmosphere has been awesome.

2499
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:48,880
Speaker 7: Secondly, a lot of reports over the last couple of

2500
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,320
Speaker 7: days in Ohio about Bigfoot sightings.

2501
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Speaker 3: Do you believe in Bigfoot?

2502
02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:52,440
Speaker 5: No?

2503
02:13:55,120 --> 02:13:56,440
Speaker 3: Well, in that case, we're done here at.

2504
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 13: This when you see him at this stage in the

2505
02:13:58,200 --> 02:14:00,480
Speaker 13: evolution of Bigfoot, which is weird for me to say

2506
02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 13: for something that doesn't exist. Okay, with all the people

2507
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:05,760
Speaker 13: we have, our country has never been more dense, how

2508
02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:08,800
Speaker 13: many five or six? When I say our country has

2509
02:14:08,840 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 13: never been more dense, I mean intellectually and I mean

2510
02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:15,720
Speaker 13: from a person per square foot. At some point we

2511
02:14:15,880 --> 02:14:18,760
Speaker 13: like we would have seen Bigfoot and like legitimately would

2512
02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:19,440
Speaker 13: have encountered them.

2513
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:23,160
Speaker 3: Maybe we have Harry and the Henderson's We're done. Heroldo

2514
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:26,920
Speaker 3: most next on air and also available to watch as

2515
02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:29,879
Speaker 3: he watches, and that'll be fun for everybody, the Bearcats

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02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:32,480
Speaker 3: and the Utes coming up in just a few the

2517
02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:37,160
Speaker 3: game on the screen. It's Cincinnati Sports Station. Have a

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02:14:37,200 --> 02:14:38,160
Speaker 3: great rest of your death.

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Speaker 17: Until you see k Why Cincinnati make us the number

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Speaker 17: one pre set on your car radio and on the free.

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02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:49,800
Speaker 17: Knew it improved, iHeartRadio Act Free never sounded so good.

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Speaker 14: ESPN fifteen thirty