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Speaker 2: Mister Friday Afternoon went five and zero again. He's on

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Speaker 2: a twentieth oh run. It's dystopian. And speaking of dystopian,

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Speaker 2: we got to talk Bucco baseball. But you can call

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Speaker 2: Since the Buck has got Brandon Lye in that trade.

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Speaker 2: The attitude from the Marx is very celebratory, overly so,

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Speaker 2: but I get it. It's the first truly big and

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Speaker 2: positive move the Pirates have made in years that didn't

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Speaker 2: involve sucking and then drafting high. But the attitude from

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Speaker 2: the Marx is the citizens. The Pirates are gonna show you.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna show everybody addressed to people like me, truthers

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Speaker 2: and daughters. And my response is no, they're not. They're

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Speaker 2: a seventy five win team at best right now. They

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Speaker 2: five win team at best now. If you really want

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Speaker 2: to show me, show me right now and sign Eugenio Suarez,

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Speaker 2: the third baseman thirty four years old, so he's a

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Speaker 2: little bit probably passed his private That's the kind of

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Speaker 2: Forty nine home runs last year only at two twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, six eighty two. It cost about seventy five

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Speaker 2: get because you're weak at third base.

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Speaker 1: You need another big bat, big.

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Speaker 2: Bet Lao and Suarez like Lao at two, Suarez like four.

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Speaker 1: Do that and I'll take you serious.

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Speaker 2: Heck, the one Japanese guy went to the Chicago White

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Speaker 2: you can't keep Nakama open in Pittsburgh. How you gonna

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Actually, what I heard, see I'm jamming the jokes together

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Speaker 1: Okay, the Nakama joke was much better.

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Speaker 2: You know what the hardcore fans are like with the Pirates,

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Speaker 2: and I don't say this flippantly at all.

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Speaker 1: It's like a domestic abuse situation.

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Speaker 2: The Pirates tell their fans, oh, I love you, and

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Speaker 2: it'll be different this time, just give me one more chance, baby,

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Speaker 2: and they might give a bouquet of flowers to the

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Speaker 2: Marks occasionally, like Brandon Law, but it never is different

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Speaker 2: this time, not for long anyway. I do laugh about

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Speaker 2: have a pretty good crew with young hitters. They might

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Speaker 2: they're nine and six now. They really should win out

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Speaker 1: You know, he hates doing that.

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Speaker 2: But there's a slim chance they could get to the

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Speaker 1: Like Jim Roththerfferd did that all the time.

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Speaker 2: Then again, where you're gonna be Buffalo with Calvin Austen

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Speaker 2: what the bottom line is, you're gonna hate me for this.

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Speaker 2: If you don't want to listen, don't listen. I don't

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Speaker 2: But I still don't think they're very good. If that

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Speaker 2: I do all sorts of charity work. The community loves me.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think they're very good team. You know

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Speaker 2: it just can't happen.

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Speaker 4: Ho ho ho.

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Speaker 2: It's that Tommy Yurgan, isn't it it's bond.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Just big and it's soft and I use a bunch

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the questions I have to ask you. I

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Speaker 1: Do you trust the offense at this point?

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Speaker 2: The offensive line digging deep despite being dinged up, coming

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure when he's gonna be ready. I thought

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Speaker 2: Sawyer played really good. It was a different kind of

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Speaker 2: so how many. I don't think it's a very good team. Still,

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Speaker 2: I'm not convinced, but I gotta tell you you look

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Speaker 2: back in the playoffs in a while Indianapolis faded out.

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Speaker 2: I'd love it if Indianapolis stumbled in the Steelers played them,

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Speaker 2: Like I say, having Superman and that Houston defense, I

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Speaker 2: you're on with Mark.

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Speaker 1: How good.

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Speaker 4: You were talking about the Lions earlier and potentially get

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Speaker 4: rid of Dan Campbell Man.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I've not mentioned that at all.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure you called the right show?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: That's just wrong, you idiot. You clean your ears out.

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Speaker 2: They must be full of excremate. I haven't talked about

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Speaker 2: the Lions coaching at all. The first time Dan Campbell's

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Speaker 2: name got mentioned on this show was by you. Right now, goodbye,

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Speaker 2: don't call back. Let's go to Tim. You're on with

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Speaker 1: How are you good, afternoon, Tim?

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Speaker 6: frequently do you think Aaron Rodgers needs to take deep

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they need to use the middle more.

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Speaker 2: I think they've done it a little more, but only

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Speaker 1: Don't you.

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Speaker 4: Agreed?

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can win a playoff game right alone.

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Speaker 2: A series of playoff games by nickel diming, and not

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Speaker 2: to be fair, these last three wins, they've nickel dimes some,

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Speaker 2: but they've opened it up some and have succeeded when

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Speaker 2: they opened it up. Oh God, who did Rochester that

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Speaker 2: one ball to MBS. That was just off that one

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Speaker 2: deep ball. I thought MBS, well, MBS when he was

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Speaker 2: twenty one anymore. Thank you for the call. Let's going

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Speaker 2: out of our good friend the Hebrew hammer hammer yuck schmash.

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Speaker 3: Hey, yuchemush marque. You look at it this way, the

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Speaker 3: Steelers are a pick play away from one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest meltdowns in the last twenty years. So opposite, the

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Speaker 3: game ends on a controversial play, So what you do

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Speaker 3: is take it in between. They're just still a above

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Speaker 3: average team that go into the playoffs and still probably

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Speaker 3: want and done. But as fans in Pittsburgh, everybody gets crazy.

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Speaker 3: If you recall that couple years.

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Speaker 2: Ago, that hammer, that's okay, that's part of being a fan.

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Speaker 3: But when you look at things with like a level head,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just that, you know, it's the nature,

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Speaker 2: And I will say the one argument on them maybe

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Speaker 2: is wide open.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, no Mahomes, no Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just think sometimes because we won something doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: in life. So you can pay me five cents for

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Speaker 2: That's very philosophical. And that's your cue.

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Speaker 3: That's so much whammy.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Colin. Colin, you're on with the super genius,

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Speaker 5: How's it going great? So I was curious, what's your

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Speaker 5: truly have never seen anything like some of the calls

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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, hold it, hold it. Luck and

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Speaker 2: Were they lucky to get all the big calls the

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: But I will say except for the roughing the snapper

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Speaker 2: those games in favor the Steelers was the correct call.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's fair enough, But what about some of the

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Speaker 5: other miraculous plays, like, for example, the gain Well play.

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Speaker 5: I have never seen anything like that before, and that

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Speaker 5: won't happen again for another ten, fifteen, twenty years, that's.

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Speaker 2: True, But they only needed it to happen yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: it was the difference in the game, turn the offense

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Speaker 2: people talk about that being a great play. There's your luck.

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Speaker 2: That's a lucky play to make it. I mean, his

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Speaker 5: It just seems like it's kind of been one of

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Speaker 5: those seasons, Mark, And you know what, if that's what

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Speaker 5: it takes for us to win a playoff game, I'll

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Speaker 2: Team of destiny real quick. To Nick, Nick, you got

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Speaker 2: about fifteen.

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Speaker 5: Seconds, Hey, Mark, did Tom Brady Wasn't he a nickel

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Speaker 5: dime kind of quarterback? Or am I mistaken?

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Speaker 1: Like I know, he nickel and dime most.

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Speaker 4: Of the time, with a long ball here and there

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Speaker 2: Well, not to maybe Goronkowski, but you know what Tom

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Speaker 2: when you do that, when you do that, that's not nickel.

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Speaker 5: Dime real quick playoffs.

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Speaker 4: One thing I do like is that most of the

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Speaker 1: Well I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Allen's in it, Herbert's in it, Lawrence is

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Speaker 1: We do not know.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call up next to our football guru,

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson here on one oh five nine notty four

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Speaker 2: point five trees, Mark Madden, Hey, Mark, when you got

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Speaker 2: a young Trophy White owes money to I can't even

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Speaker 2: quote the big o'boski right, goodbye.

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Speaker 1: With the exit.

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Speaker 2: One fine Steelers with a very entertaining and dramatic win yesterday,

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Speaker 2: joining me now to talk about it. The former pro

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Speaker 2: and college scout. He is our football guru, Matt Williamson. Matt,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers ran the ball very well and stopped Detroit

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Speaker 2: running game that's usually gonna win, and it did, but barely.

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Speaker 1: Why was that game that close? It was a weird game.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, that was definitely a weird game. And well,

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Speaker 4: I think a huge reason it was close is Detroit

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Speaker 4: that started to figure things out, as is often the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as long as you win, that's all good.

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Speaker 2: What made the running game go for Pittsburgh? And is

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Speaker 2: Dylan Cook a folk hero at this point?

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Speaker 4: I mean crazy that both the long touchdown runs were

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Speaker 4: don't think what Dylan Cook is doing is fluky or

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Speaker 4: he's gonna turn into a pumpkin. Now, I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: I mean, their safeties did a really bad job of

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Speaker 4: I mean he keeps flowing me away. I think he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I just the mistake I hope they don't make, and

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Speaker 2: to retain gain Well because he has a career backup.

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Speaker 4: No, I see what you're saying too, and there's guys

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Speaker 4: off season. But I definitely would say, well, Cook, is

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Speaker 4: if he's your third tackle, you're a lot more comfortable

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Speaker 1: I got him off the board for one second.

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Speaker 2: Man Baltimore loss, the Steelers have the division just about

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Speaker 1: What happened to the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I had them pegged as the best roster in football

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Speaker 4: I had then they were my Super Bowl pick to

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Speaker 4: while Lamar's hurt and they're super Lamar reliant. Yes, all

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Speaker 4: that stuffs true, fine, but even before he was hurt.

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Speaker 4: Both lines of scrimmage to me, were well below average.

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Speaker 4: Their guards are poor, Their tackles are a little overpaid

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Speaker 4: have to bring blitz, which works to some degree. What

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Speaker 4: and I wonder, I mean, we've had these conversations a

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Speaker 4: lost a little bit too? I think it's just a

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Speaker 4: fair thing to discuss, Matt.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers receiver deployment.

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Speaker 2: It might have worked yesterday, but it makes no sense

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Speaker 2: to be like Feelan being a primary target at thirty

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Speaker 2: of the way their wide receiver depth chart has shaken

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Speaker 4: Well, the opponent, I think had something to do with it.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not minimizing the way the Steelers played offense,

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Speaker 4: But the Lion's secondary was very much there for the taking,

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Speaker 4: all this talk about professional route runners, proper spacing, all

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Speaker 4: they're starting to at least show that they can move

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Speaker 4: Then heck, their first round pick next year might be

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Speaker 2: brought d west by shop dot Steelers dot Com. Matt up,

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Speaker 2: How did the defense get by without Watt and herbig

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Speaker 2: who picked up the slack?

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Speaker 1: And how?

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Speaker 4: Yeah that was huge. I didn't see that coming. I

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Speaker 4: And again I keep talking about the bad things about

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Speaker 4: But when they're going through a center left and right,

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Speaker 4: it's really hard to win in this league. And I

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Speaker 4: I didn't think that you tried to battle Penny Soool

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Speaker 4: And frankly Sawyer played better than I thought too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought sorry had had a real good game.

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Speaker 2: Why did the defense, though, stumble at the end. It

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Speaker 4: It did, and maybe they underestimated, you know, the degree

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: The one excuse I won't make, and that's for sure

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Speaker 4: that I often have talked about on Mondays with View

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Speaker 4: was I don't want to hear that the defense is

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Speaker 4: tired because they didn't play it in a third quarter.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no question. I think it was more tactical

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Speaker 1: than anything.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, Detroit being desperate and you know,

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Speaker 2: having to get points, and as it turned out, they

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Speaker 2: didn't quite get enough.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is very good.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to believe a forty two year old is

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Speaker 2: able to step on the accelerator near the end of

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Speaker 2: the season, let alone carry the team with him.

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Speaker 1: But that's as best I can describe it.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I think that he really, he and

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Speaker 4: the whole team has a much better grasp for strengths

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Speaker 4: and weaknesses around him. He has a better trust factor,

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Speaker 4: certainly in the protection. I mean, the ball's not coming

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Speaker 4: out so obscenely quick, the thrown over the middle more.

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Speaker 4: But his command and his knowledge to me blows me away.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like whenever there's controversy, was Rogers

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Speaker 4: right on this or not, He's like always right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he just really understands the game, the pace, how to

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Speaker 4: throw people off. And I think that, you know, everyone

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Speaker 4: responds to them in a big way. I mean, not

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Speaker 4: that they didn't buy in before, but they now they

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Speaker 4: buy in one thousand percent that this guy really gives

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Speaker 4: us a chance. I was excited about him, but I'm

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Speaker 4: shocked how good he's been, to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's even been above and beyond, just like

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Speaker 2: the last three weeks, because that Buffalo game was in

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Speaker 2: ay dear for him and for the Steelers, and they've

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Speaker 2: bounced back strong since then. Is this a team that

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Speaker 2: in your mind, Matt is getting legitimately better and in

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Speaker 2: what ways is that most evident.

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Speaker 4: I absolutely think they're getting better. I think that they've stopped,

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Speaker 4: you know, pounding a square peg into a round hole

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Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball tactically for a lot

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Speaker 4: of reasons, you know, less man coverage, less blitz. We

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Speaker 4: just realized we're not as good at that, so we're gonna,

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Speaker 4: you know, pivot from there. They're playing better football players

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Speaker 4: through the wide receivers are a good example. You know,

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Speaker 4: Ramsey at safety has been a huge boost to them

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Speaker 4: as well. I think that they're much more well rounded. Now. Okay,

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Speaker 4: if we're not running the ball, great well, we can

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Speaker 4: throw on you and keep up and vice versa. With

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Speaker 4: we're not stopping the run, great well, our past defense

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Speaker 4: can pick us up. And I just think that there's

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Speaker 4: less clear holes for the opponent to attack. But I

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Speaker 4: would say the biggest thing is what we just talked

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Speaker 4: about is the quarterback. I just think whenever he's playing

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Speaker 4: super strong in a quarterback Driggon league, you're gonna be

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Speaker 4: in it.

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Speaker 1: Can the Steelers win playoff games?

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Speaker 2: Who's the one opponent they don't want to play Among

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Speaker 2: the possibilities in the first round, I.

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Speaker 4: Think they could probably win a game maybe two. Wow,

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Speaker 4: that's maybe a stretch. I just don't think the AFC

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Speaker 4: is daunting. I mean there's definitely not the Bills in

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Speaker 4: their prime, or the Ravens last year, or the Chiefs teams.

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Speaker 4: We become a cust know that there's.

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Speaker 1: No Lamar, there's no Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good place to start if you

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Speaker 2: want opportunity to knock.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. Now, Allen's really scary, but they're a flawed team.

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Speaker 4: I think every one of the teams in the conference

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Speaker 4: can be beatable. I mean, I bet there's gonna be

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Speaker 4: several upsets in the AFC playoff races. I would not

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Speaker 4: want to see Buffalo. I still, I know they weren't

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Speaker 4: great yesterday, but I think Houston has a chance to

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Speaker 4: go to the super Bowl as well. But I think

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Speaker 4: they're right there with the Chargers and Jacksonville's hot, but

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Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sold on them. No one blows me away,

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Speaker 4: I guess is the bottom lenel.

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Speaker 2: Ears Among the teams they could play, I think they

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Speaker 2: could be either Jacksonville or the LA Chargers in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a guarantee, but those are winnable games.

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Speaker 2: I'd be worried a lot about Houston's defense if it

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Speaker 2: comes to that. And I don't think they beat Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen in the first round. I don't think Superman's won

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Speaker 2: and done.

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Speaker 4: Agreed, I couldn't agree more. I mean, to me, my

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Speaker 4: least favorite options are definitely Buffalo and Houston. My favorite

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Speaker 4: is the Chargers Jacksonville. I'd be, yeah, let's see what can.

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Speaker 1: Happen Matt up.

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Speaker 2: They still do a lot of stupid stuff though, never

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Speaker 2: mind DK punching the fan. That's like off the field.

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Speaker 2: But there were opis, you know, a bad fumble by Darnell,

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Speaker 2: and I still I don't think Darnell watching is the answer.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the discussion we got have.

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Speaker 2: I would so much rather see friar Mouth than John

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Speaker 2: who get his snaps.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about John who. I am a Darnell fan.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm higher on him than you are, just

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Speaker 4: because I think teams hate playing against him, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is such a unique player that he's

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Speaker 4: hard to prepare for, really hard to prepare for. But

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Speaker 4: I can't agree more on friar Mouth. I don't understand

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Speaker 4: why he's so down the pecking order.

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Speaker 1: Is there any way they lose to Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: No, there are really, I mean, unless the weather gets

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Speaker 4: nasty or something like that, or I mean, you watch

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Speaker 4: the Browns offense and it's really well schemed. Early in

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Speaker 4: the game, you know, they do a lot of smoke

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Speaker 4: and mirrors and motion and stuff that they script and

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Speaker 4: then every defense figures it out and turns into a

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Speaker 4: typical type game and they can't execute because the quarterback's bad,

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Speaker 4: the O line's horrible. Their top three running backs might

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Speaker 4: be out of this game. I mean, they're really short

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Speaker 4: on talent right now.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, Matt, I'm almost disappointed that the

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Speaker 2: Week eighteen game against Baltimore is very likely to be meaningless.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a bummer.

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Speaker 2: I thought that might be for all the marbles, and

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Speaker 2: I know it's better if they clinched, but that would

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Speaker 2: have been pretty exciting.

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Speaker 4: I absolutely would have, and it still can be. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I guess there's a chance, but I would rather I'm

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Speaker 4: sure Rogers and cam and then Ramsey would much rather

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Speaker 4: be resting as opposed to dealing with that mess.

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Speaker 2: Where do you stay on teams resting their starters in

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Speaker 2: meaningless games? Does it help the arrest or does it

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Speaker 2: take away from the team's rhythm.

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Speaker 4: I wish i'd a better answer, because it's funny. I

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Speaker 4: was just had this conversation right before I left the

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Speaker 4: station in our last segment, because I don't feel strong

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Speaker 4: one way or another. I definitely think that the Rogers

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Speaker 4: and Cams of the world are very easy to sit.

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Speaker 1: A lot more than they need repetition, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I mean they don't need practice, they don't need that

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Speaker 4: extra game. Their bodies need to heal now. I think

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Speaker 4: what is interesting is if the Ravens get eliminated Saturday night,

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Speaker 4: do you rest people two weeks? Because if it comes

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Speaker 4: down to the Steelers beating the Browns and they come

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Speaker 4: through and they do it, I'm resting everyone for one week.

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm resting Zach Frasier, even though he's young.

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Speaker 4: I mean important people one week. That's just like a

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Speaker 4: bye week. But when you start to get two, I

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Speaker 4: think that's when it gets tricky. And I don't really

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Speaker 4: know that answer.

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Speaker 2: I think the trickiest decision to make is the team

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Speaker 2: that gets the buy and the wild card round, you know,

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Speaker 2: resting guys in week eighteen, because then it's two full

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Speaker 2: weeks off and that has come back and been some

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Speaker 2: teams like that. One year, I forget what year, but

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Speaker 2: Indy had like one loss, rested guys and went on early. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, here's let me play Devil's advocate, Matt. I

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Speaker 2: agree with resting Rodgers. I mean, my god, it's obvious

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Speaker 2: forty two year old quarterback. But that basically takes the

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Speaker 2: whole offense out of rhythm.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean everything becomes a disaster at that point.

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Speaker 4: And then you start one dun. You probably then rest

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Speaker 4: see Amalu and then you probably rest Metcalf and as

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Speaker 4: a ripple effect, and you throw Rudolph out there and

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Speaker 4: you really treat it like a preseason game then or

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Speaker 4: you know. The other thing we discussed was would you

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Speaker 4: play Rogers for two series against the Browns? I mean,

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Speaker 4: week eighteen, I'm not playing them unless they have to win.

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Speaker 4: You play them two to three series, But I don't

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Speaker 4: even know that accomplishes. You know, to me, there's not

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Speaker 4: really a right answer. It's just if you lose, the

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Speaker 4: coach gets killed for making the wrong answer.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know why, it's tough to decipher, Matt. Neither

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Speaker 2: of us ever figured that the Steelers might clinch the

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Speaker 2: AFC North by week seventeen exactly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty blown away that that's even in

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Speaker 4: the cards.

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Speaker 1: Matt has always great stuff, fantastic insight. We'll do it

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Speaker 1: again next week, all right, but take care, we'll see it.

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