1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network pay Corps. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Pay corpus proud to be the official HR software provider 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering how best care put about 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: best fans kettering hew official healthcare provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: This is seven hundred WLW, the home of the best 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Bengals coverage. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's get it going on this Monday night. 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Welcome into Bengals Line. Three hours of conversation about to unfold. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna sort through what transpired yesterday at pay Corps. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna look ahead to what could transpire this coming 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: Sunday against the Miami Dolphins. I'm Lance, Butacallister. He is 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Dave Lapham, and boy, Dave, had you told me at 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: the start of the day, with the Bengals at home 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: and playing for their collective playoff lives, had you said 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: they'll lose this game, I would have thought, okay, man, 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: that would be tough. But it's gonna be hard fought. 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: It's gonna be back and forth, there might be some 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: points score. There's gonna be dynamic quarterback play. I would 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: have said I could see that. Had you told me, 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: they won't score and they'll lose twenty four to nothing. 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: I would have said, wait a minute, time out. That 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: can't possibly happen. And unfortunately it did. Yeah, unfortunately it did. 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: I mean uh to uh to pitch a shutout. I mean, 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: Baltimore is capable of that. That defensive football teams a 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: good when we know that Harbaugh, you know, has has 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: made his living as a defensive minded head coach. And uh, 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, they they play hard, they believe in the scheme, 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: they believe in the system, they play with a lot 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: of pride. The Bengals couldn't get anything done. I mean 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: there was no consistency, no continuity to what they were 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: they were doing. Every once in a while, there'd be 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: a big play, uh, but that would go away quickly. 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: The effect that that big play would go away quickly, 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: and Baltimore would just bowl their necks and bow their 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: backs and not allow the Cincinnati Bengals to get another inch. David, 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: it is stunning to look at. I'm a big numbers guy, 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: and then numbers sometimes mean something and numbers sometimes mean nothing. 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: And then there's some numbers that make no sense. And if 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: you're loyal, if you hadn't watched the game, and you said, 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: wait a minute, the Bengals had the ball for thirty 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: nine minutes, Yeah, almost forty minutes to the Ravens twenty. 42 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: The Bengals ran seventy one plays to the Ravens forty, 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: and yet the Ravens out gained the Bengals by nineteen 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean, think about that. One team had the ball 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: for twenty fewer minutes and ran thirty one fewer plays 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: and out gained the other team by nineteen yards. That's 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: almost impossible. 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. I mean if the numbers just 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: don't add up, it's like, wait a minute, man, that's 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: a brain cramp they're waiting to happen. You know. It's 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: just the factor that needs to be considered. There is 52 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: field position, you know, average drive start. Where did the 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens start their first first and ten, you know, 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: and that's where they crossed the Bengals. Really, I mean, 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: they took their soul away on those they had the ball. 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: Their field position advantage was maybe as as significantly positive 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: to their side of things as I've seen in a 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: long time in the National Football League. I Mean, it 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: was crazy the way that thing unfolded. And you know 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: at that at that point, you know your defense has 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: already have their backs up against the wall. It's like, 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: if they allow one first down, you're in field goal range, 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: you know. And and and that's that's a bad place 64 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: to be. That's a tough place to be. And and 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals could never get out of that. They 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: could never flip it, you know, flip the switch, flip 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: the coin, so to speak, and put the Ravens on 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: a long field. They had long field after long field. 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: The Ravens had short field after short field. I think 70 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: that was the biggest difference in the game. 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: And a real kicker and again filed under hard to fathom. 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: When the Bengals did get into the Ravens territory, they 73 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: got it into the Ravens side of the field five 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: different times and got i mean obviously zero points out 75 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: of it. But they get it to the forty and 76 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: half to punt, They get it to the twenty nine 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: and throw the interception. They get it to the thirty 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: and they turn it over on downs. They get it 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: to the seven Joe throws to pick six. They get 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: it to the twenty seven and they get stopped on 81 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: fourth and one. I mean, the odds if you turn 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: to Vegas and said, all right, what are the odds 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: this Bengals offense, We'll get into Ravens territory five different 84 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: times and not score a single point. I don't know 85 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: even how you calculate the odds, because that would be 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: seemingly be impossible, right right. 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean, fourth down stops and turnovers were huge. You know, 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: that's the reason that Baltimore was able to pitch the shutout. 89 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: Really they basically, in my mind, fourth down takeaways on 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: downs are pretty much equivalent to turnovers. You know, you 91 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: don't have an opportunity to even try a field goal 92 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: and score points and you're certainly not going to put 93 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: it in the end zone. So you know, the multiple 94 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: possessions where that was the case for the Cincinnati Bengals, 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: way too many possessions in one game. That's for damsure. 96 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: I mean, they had enough turnover taken away eight points 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: and allowing a pick six and fourth down stops ate 98 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: enough of those for an entire season, at least two 99 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: thirds of the season anyway, and they had it all 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: in one football game. And when you add all that up, 101 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: it's just a recipe for Disaster. 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: Boy and one drive that really jumped out to me, Dave. 103 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: And it's seventeen to nothing, and so this is still 104 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: certainly the game is in play, you're not out of it, 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: and it's seventeen to nothing. The Bengals went on a 106 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: sixteen play trucks crauized eighty five yards and consumed eight 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: minutes on the clock. And again, if you're not watching 108 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: the game, you think, wow, sixteen play drive. But as 109 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: you were watching it, you're thinking, wait a minute, they 110 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: need to score multiple times here, and they're taking sixteen 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: plays in the time off the clock. And I'm watching 112 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: from one step to the next, and they're in the huddle, 113 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, it almost felt like it's seventeen to nothing. 114 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: It's silly to think they just wanted to get the 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: game over. But I don't know how you go on 116 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: a sixteen play drive and take eight minutes when you 117 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: need to score multiple times. 118 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's not much time left in the football game, 119 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: you know, And yeah, the clock management was curious. Make 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: you scratch your head, that's for sure. I don't know 121 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: what Zach was thinking in those situations. Only he can 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: answer that question. But yeah, and again field is a factor. 123 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: I mean, when you go on an eighteen play drive, 124 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: you haven't put it in the end zone. You start 125 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: your after your drive. Start was way back there, man, 126 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: I mean you were back at your ten yard line, 127 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: inside your ten yard line. You had a long way 128 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: to go, You at a long distance drive coming up, 129 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: and you just could not quite finish it. That was 130 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: the story of the game. The Cincinnati Bengals just came 131 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: up short in terms of finishing, you know, at inconsistency 132 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: of play and lack of finishing. I think of the 133 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: two big headlines for this football game. 134 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: Let's get immediate reaction after the game inside the locker room. 135 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: Here's Dave with the coach Zach Taylor. 136 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: We had a great play on defense, they gave us 137 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 4: an opportunity early in the game. And on dolphins. Obviously 138 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: we had the two that that really hurt us. 139 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: Third down another another key, another T. The three t's 140 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: that I had for the game, we're touchdowns, turnovers and 141 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: takeaways and third down. Third down didn't go very well. 142 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: Had some fourth downs that you had to try to convert. 143 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: I mean did okay, but not you know, you were 144 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: putting too many fourth down situations. Talk about the problems 145 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: that you faced on third down. 146 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought early we were good. You know, early 147 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: we put uff in a good spot and drove the 148 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 4: ball on the field and obviously didn't finish. You know, 149 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: on one we had a turnover that took points off 150 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: the board. Another one we had a sack that that 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: took out a field goal range. And so first half 152 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: it was frustrating. We felt like there was opportunity for 153 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: points there and we came away with nothing a halftime 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: and obviously finished the game the same way. 155 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: You were going to go from this football game to Miami. 156 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: I don't know how many degrees and just plan that's 157 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: going to be, but it's going to be. It's going 158 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: to be crazy. I know you don't necessarily want to 159 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: talk about the Miami Dolphins. You haven't had time to 160 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: digest the Miami Dolphins, to look at the Miami Dolphins much, 161 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: that's for sure. But I guess what do you think? 162 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: What are the weapons? What makes the Miami Dolphins a 163 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: solid football team? 164 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 165 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: I just know from what I've I am watching them 166 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: a long time. We'll find out. I know that they're 167 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: always a fast team and they've got a good quarterback 168 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: that gets out quick. 169 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: So your division record, if you'd won out would have 170 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: been five and one, now can be four and two. 171 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: Still pretty solid, still something to be proud of. A 172 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: foreign two record in the division, and still it could 173 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: give you an eight and nine record, So obviously there's 174 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: a lot to play for. 175 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: We just got to win. 176 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: You know, We're gonna come in the building every day 177 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: and focus on finding a win in Miami, finding a 178 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: win after that. It's been disappointing that this is where 179 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: we're at right now. We're all accountable for that, and 180 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 4: that's obviously a disappointing day. But tomorrow we're gonna have 181 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: to pick ourselves up and find a way to go 182 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 4: find a win, get some momentum. 183 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: That's what you're talking about there. One win at a time, 184 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: Paul Brown, my first head coach in the National Football League. 185 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: That's what you said. Man, you can't get a hit 186 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: yourself here, no matter what the situation. You got to 187 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 3: approach it one week at a time. You got to 188 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: try to accumulate one victory at a time. And that's 189 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: where you find yourself right now, isn't it. 190 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: That's well, that's all we can do is takeing one 191 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: game at a time and make the corrections from this 192 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 4: one and move on to the next one. 193 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 5: Took as possible. 194 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: Coach, appreciate your time. You don't have to do this. 195 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: I know that sometimes it's difficult to do this. I 196 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: know a lot of times it's very difficult to do this. 197 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: But you're a class act and we appreciate your carbon 198 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: time for us. 199 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: You got it, Zach Taylor. After the game, sum it up. 200 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: We'll take our first time out and continue. You hear 201 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: from QB one Joe Burrow on a rough day all 202 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: around as we navigate through the first of three hours 203 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: tonight if Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and 204 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW all night sorting through yesterday on Bengals 205 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: Line and the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW 206 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: heard from Zach. Let's hear from Joe Burrow. You're at 207 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: a second. He goes twenty five of thirty nine, two 208 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five yards, sack three times, two interceptions. 209 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: Fifty eight point two was his rating. Here's Joe after 210 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: the game. 211 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 6: You go back to Wednesday, there was a lot made 212 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 6: of your moment if you're having fun or not in Cincinnati, 213 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 6: so just still let you address it. Are you still 214 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 6: enjoying playing. 215 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 7: For the Bengals? 216 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 6: And what did you make of kind of what happened 217 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 6: in your comments on Wednesday? 218 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 8: My comments had nothing to do with Cincinnati. My comments 219 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 8: had everything to do with me and my mindset in football. 220 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 9: Do you think that your mindset this week in fact 221 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 9: in your play today or was it just your player today? 222 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 6: Three years now of missing the playoffs, typically that results 223 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 6: in change for most NFL organizations. Do you still have 224 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 6: confidence in the people in the front office and the 225 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 6: coaching staff that they can get this roster in a 226 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 6: place and this team in a place where that wouldn't 227 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 6: happen next year? 228 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 7: A lot of confidence because I know how hard people 229 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 7: work at it. 230 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 8: We got the right people, uh starts, the players playing better, 231 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 8: and today was me from the outside. 232 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 10: Are gonna just say that the organization top to bottom 233 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 10: front the office doesn't have enough people or the right 234 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 10: people in place. You honestly feel that they do and why. 235 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 7: This is a team effort. 236 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 8: You know, at the end of the day, players got 237 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 8: to play better on the field. 238 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 7: Today was me, I gotta be better? What do you 239 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 7: feel like you could have know better today everything. 240 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 11: Why was Why was it. 241 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: So tough on there? 242 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 9: What they made such challenge? 243 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 7: They're getting good pressure, but you know, some. 244 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 8: Uncharacter uncharacteristic mental mistakes on my end and some unforced errors. 245 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: Touch on the mindset. 246 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 12: Do you think those things could be inter twined at all? 247 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 12: Is to maybe why you didn't go the way you 248 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 12: wanted to early on? Can you take us through? You 249 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 12: had a throw to Jamar, it was right for the interception, throw. 250 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 9: To Jamar in the end zone. The interception where it 251 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 9: was just those two, those two players just felt. 252 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: Like you gott. 253 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 8: Yeah the go I felt good about where I put it. 254 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 8: He got tugged a little bit. You Now, sometimes you 255 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 8: get those calls, sometimes you don't. But I felt good 256 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 8: about where I put down one. And then yeah, obviously 257 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 8: the interception was was a bit high. 258 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 12: What would you think as you go back on the 259 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 12: field for the last time, the conditions, you probably would 260 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 12: not have what was run through your mind as you 261 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 12: go back. 262 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 7: After the pick six. I mean, at that point it 263 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 7: was over, So just protect yourself. 264 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: Joe, out of playoff contention, do you want to play 265 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: the last three games personally? 266 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: I do Joe Burrow after the game and Dave clearly 267 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: he was as hard on himself as you've ever heard 268 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. It was a rough day all around for everybody. 269 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: It was a really rough day for Joe, and he 270 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: did not hold back. I love what he said. You know, 271 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: you're you're you're not gonna win NFL games when your 272 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: quarterback plays like I did today. I want everything on 273 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: my plate. That's the position I want to be in. 274 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: And it just it. It wasn't his day, It wasn't 275 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: everybody's day yesterday, but that's certainly far from a typical 276 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow afternoon. 277 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and uh, you know he uh in in typical 278 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow fashion, the leader that he is, he said, 279 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: put it on my shoulders. It's all on me, you know. 280 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: I just I did not perform the way that I'm 281 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: capable of performing. And talk to him in the in 282 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: the locker room after the game, not on not taping him, 283 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: but just conversing a little bit, and he was very, 284 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: very disappointed. He was down about his performance, and you know, 285 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 3: and deservedly so, rightfully so. But I do think one 286 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: thing about Joe Burrow is he does bounce back quickly, 287 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: and I think he will compartmentalize. Now, he'll learn, he'll 288 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: learn from this. There's a lot to learn. There are 289 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 3: lessons to learn for everybody that played in this football game. 290 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: Everybody the participate paid it in this debacle. You know, 291 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: you get shut out in the National Football League. Offensively, 292 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: a lot of lessons to learn there, and there's no 293 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: doubt defensively as well. You know, when your offense is struggling, 294 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: you have to pick them up. You know, it's a 295 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: it's basically it's a team game, and you have to 296 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,239 Speaker 3: when one when one side is struggling, one phase is struggling, 297 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: the other one has to lift and raise the boat, 298 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: so to speak. So that's the that's the biggest lesson 299 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: I think learned in this football game. And it's not 300 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: gonna be easy going to Miami, and can tell you that. 301 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: You know there's gonna be a huge temperature swing, there's 302 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: no question, and humidity could be a big issue down 303 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: there as well. So guys better eat right, they better 304 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: get their rest, better take care of their bodies because 305 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: that trip to Miami is no joke. 306 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: First time in Joe's NFL career he's been involved in 307 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: a shutout, the first Bengals home shutout since the opener 308 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: of twenty seventeen, first time Joe's played in a game 309 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: his team was shut out since twenty eighteen at LSU 310 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: against Alabama when Bama was was number one in the country. 311 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: And it also sticks out that his teammates said that 312 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: Joe addressed the team after the game. They didn't go 313 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: into details on what he said, but another thing that 314 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: you look for in a franchise quarterback and your leader, 315 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: gathering guys and speaking, and it is he put it 316 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: on him. But I'm sure the message was to the 317 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: group that we all need to do more. This is 318 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: not acceptable right now exactly. 319 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: I think that you're hitting it right on the head. 320 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: And the great quarterbacks, the great leaders that the Cincinnati 321 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: Bengals have had, and they've been blessed with tremendous quarterback 322 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: play and tremendous people at the quarterback position, and I 323 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: can envision Boomers Iceen and Can Anderson both doing exactly 324 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: what Joe Burrow did. You know, Hey, guys, I played 325 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: like horse dong. You know, there's no question about it. 326 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: I stunk, I was, I was, I sucked, I was awful. 327 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: But you guys weren't much better. You know, I mean, nobody, 328 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: nobody did anything. Uh, you know that football game was atrocious. 329 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: It was it was not not up to snuff, not 330 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: up to standard for for NFL performance. You have to 331 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: you have to play at a higher level than that. 332 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: Let's make sure. Let's let's go learn. Like I was 333 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: talking about before, lesson hard, lesson hard pill to swallow, 334 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: tough pill to swallow. But let's get it down and 335 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: digest it and uh and and live through it. You know, 336 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: your neighbor's going to be all over here, your family 337 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: will probably be all over you gonna be hard to 338 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: find some friends. But that's what it's like, That's what 339 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: life's all about, the National Football League. When you lay 340 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: an egg as big as the one we laid. 341 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. And you know, it's a rough day 342 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: for Joe. There's been days where he's maybe sailed to 343 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: pass or under thrown a pass. But when Joe says 344 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: an opening drive, when he took the sack that took him 345 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: out of field goal range, he said, a mental mistake 346 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: by me. Joe doesn't make mental mistake. You know, it's 347 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: a rough day when Joe's making a mental mistake right on. 348 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, just throw it away. You know 349 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: that those yards, every yard is valuable. He more than 350 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: anybody understands that. And one of those days. You know, 351 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: every once in a while, no matter what your job is, 352 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: you have a day at work where it's like, oh boy, 353 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: I wish this day would end. You know, this day 354 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: can't end fast enough. And that was the case for 355 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and the Bengals yesterday. 356 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: No doubt, we've reached the bottom of the hour. Hangtag. 357 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: We'll flip to the defensive side of things here from 358 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: Miles Murphy. He had a nice day, a couple of sacks. 359 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: Talk more about his continuing development as we continue with 360 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. 361 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: We rolled right along in this lendy nut of Bengals 362 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: Line and the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW, 363 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: Lance mccunt, Lester, Dave Black Them. We'll hear from Orlando 364 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: Brown coming up in this hour a little bit later 365 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: on Jamar Chase Head, caraus in so much more. But 366 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: let's talk defense yesterday, and let's start with Miles Murphy 367 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: who turned in a two sack day. He's up to 368 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: four and a half on the season. Here's Miles after 369 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: the game. 370 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 13: We're in the locker room with Miles Murphy after disappointing 371 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 13: loss for the Bengals. You had two sacks. 372 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 14: TJ. 373 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 13: Slayton was involved in one of those sacks. In any case, 374 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 13: how difficult were the playing conditions for everybody on both 375 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 13: sides today? 376 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 15: I mean, of course it's cold, but it's just a conditions. 377 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 15: Just you know what you signed up for football. You 378 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 15: played in any any weather, so just gotta bear with 379 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 15: it and still just play your keys. 380 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 14: Played the run, rust passer. 381 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 15: You know, do we can as a defense? 382 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 13: Big plays hurt you guys today? Did you feel like 383 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 13: that was the biggest problem my defense? 384 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 7: Uh? 385 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 15: Yeah, Limiting the explosives. They're explosive team. They got guys 386 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 15: all over at quarterback, O line, running back, receivers, So 387 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 15: you gotta do what you can't do, limit the explosives. 388 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 14: I felt we felt that we did a good. 389 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 15: Job against the run, kept them, cut them, contain, cut 390 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 15: pressure on them. 391 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 14: But it was just the explosives. 392 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 16: Uh. 393 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 15: I was I was one of them. I was one 394 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 15: of them that gave it the one of the one 395 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 15: explosive and those are just things that just can't happen. 396 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 13: Was that on the touchdown pass to al Lee? I 397 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 13: was on your but I didn't really know what your 398 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 13: responsibility was there. 399 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 15: Yeah, the first one I was supposed to Yeah, I 400 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 15: was supposed to take them on that one. And that's 401 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 15: just something that can't happen to me and or anyone. 402 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 15: I just can't happen to give up that explosive play. 403 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 13: It was a tough game in the sense that Thangals 404 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 13: had some opportunities early inside the thirty, didn't take advantage Baltimore. 405 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 13: Baltimore got a score, and then it kind of felt 406 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 13: like the momentum swung their way, particularly when they got 407 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 13: that second score late in the second quarter. Describe what 408 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 13: it was like for you guys, just from a momentum standpoint. 409 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 15: Really, as a defense, we try to approach every every 410 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 15: possession of the same like we got to get the 411 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 15: ball that for our offense, because we know our offense, 412 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 15: you know, just like there's a we have offenses full 413 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 15: of explosive guys and who they all they need is 414 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 15: a chance man, and that's that's what we try to 415 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 15: do for our offense. Just give them a chance. And 416 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 15: you know, that's the only thing we can do. Just 417 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 15: do our just do our job and continue to give 418 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 15: our give Joe to just continue to give you the ball. 419 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 15: That's that's all we want to do. That's all we 420 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 15: can do. 421 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 13: It obviously doesn't help the playoff math. Where do you 422 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 13: guys stand now with three games to go? 423 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 15: What's the same deal? The next next week is the 424 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 15: biggest game of the year. That's that's my mindset. I 425 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 15: feel like that's the entire defensive mindset. Just done to 426 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 15: next week, same mindset. Attack, stop the run, get after 427 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 15: the quarterback. But nothing changes. We're not just gonna sit 428 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 15: back and just let whatever happen to us like we're 429 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 15: gonna still attack set, set edges, do what we can 430 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 15: and just you know, show show everyone what bangle, what 431 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 15: bangle football is. 432 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 13: Appreciate your time, Miles thinking. 433 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: Miles Murphy after the game yesterday, he wasn't perfect. He 434 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: admitted his the role in in the breakdown in the 435 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: thirty yard touchdown. But if we're talking about the graph 436 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: and this team needs young guys to keep getting better 437 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: and Dave, there is clear momentum for the way Miles 438 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: Murphy has come on in the back part of this season. 439 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: Agreed lancetal question about it, And like you said, he 440 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: has four and a half sacks now in the season 441 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: with that two sack performance yesterday, that's number two in 442 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: the team. The only guy that's got more is with 443 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: Joseph a side with five. So you know, Miles Murphy 444 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: is becoming a little bit of a factor off the edge. 445 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: You know, he and Osia both young players. They both 446 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 3: have immense physical talent. Uh, and when the Bengals scouted them, 447 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: they they are size, speed ratios and everything strength overall 448 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: body strength or off the charts. So now it's a 449 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: matter of making sure that knowing the game, what they're 450 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 3: what they're expected to do in the game of football, 451 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 3: understanding football, football IQ, everything that goes along with that. 452 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: And uh, they're very intelligent, both of them have you know, 453 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: raw i Q. So hopefully the football IQ will will 454 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: come along quickly. 455 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: Boy, and he's somebody. Let's let's look ahead and you 456 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: know likelihood that Trey I don't know, Betray Henderson probably 457 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: not here next year. You never know, but you need 458 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: somebody to become a dominant, game changing game wrecking. I 459 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: don't want I don't expect him to immediately jump to 460 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: it all pro next year, but you need the continued 461 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: development of somebody who can be an impact a young, 462 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: impactful guide or defense. 463 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And if you're a defensive coordinator, Al Golden, he 464 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: wants to have a guy, all right, I know I 465 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: can count on him to pressure the quarterback, not necessarily 466 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: sack them, but pressure him, make him uncomfortable, make him 467 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: make a quicker decision than he wants. To make him 468 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: put the ball in jeopardy at least once a game, 469 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 3: maybe multiple times a game. And that's that's what he's 470 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: looking for defensively. And so you know, pass rush can 471 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: have an impact different ways other than quarterback sacks. Quarterback 472 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: being taken to the ground. That's the sexy deal that 473 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: everybody's looking for. You know, what kind of quarterback sacks 474 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: do you have? But quarterback pressures are important also, quarterback 475 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: hurries are important also. And the more you can get 476 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: out of these two young guys in that regard in 477 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: those two categories, the better off you're going to be. 478 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: Boy. And while we're on the defensive side of things, 479 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: and and young and needing more from Dimitris Knight Junior 480 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: has a two sack day and has five tackles, and 481 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: and that's something that the linebackers have been in the 482 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: crosshairs in the spotlight a lot this season. But to 483 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: see Dimitri's Knight Junior have a big day's got to 484 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: do a lot for his confidence, exactly. 485 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: And you know he's capable. I mean, you know he's 486 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: Those two sacks put him in the top policy one, two, three, four, five, 487 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: he's in the top five from the team. Now with 488 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: those two quarterback stacks tied for top five, which I mean, 489 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: the Bengals aren't tearing it up in terms of team 490 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: quarterback sacks, that's for sure. But again, young guys, young 491 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: guys at every level, young guys at defensive line, there 492 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: are young players at the linebacker level. There are young 493 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 3: guys in the back end that are starting to show up. 494 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: And the graph of their contribution and their play is 495 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: going straight up, it really is. 496 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: And if you go back started the game, first three possessions, 497 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: the defense forces a punt, forces a punt, gets the interception, 498 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: and then it's it's such a theme with this defense. 499 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: There'll be good, good, good, and then just ah, really 500 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: awfully bad on a breakdown, and there were plays they 501 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: allowed of thirty two yards thirty twenty nine, twenty eight, 502 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty five, twenty two, twenty two. And if 503 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: we go back to time obsessions, the Ravens only had 504 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 2: forty snaps and yet eight plays went for twenty two 505 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: yards or more. Those are just backbreaking and just our 506 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: steps back from so many steps you try to take forward. 507 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, they're catastrophic, you know. I mean it's like, 508 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: you know, you start to feel good about yourself. Yeah, hey, 509 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 3: things are we're believers. Man, things are going pretty well, 510 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, bam right in the face. Man, 511 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: you take a shot right in the bridge of the 512 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: nose and get your nose busted all over your face. 513 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's life in the National Football League for sure. 514 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: But man, you know, these young players, they're just gonna 515 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: have to minimize those big plays. Every team in the 516 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: NFL is going to give up big plays. But if 517 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: you give up, you know, three big plays and eight snaps, 518 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: you're in trouble. I mean, I don't care how you 519 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 3: know who you are, what team you are, you just 520 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: can't afford to give up those kind of glosives. 521 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, just looking at the sheet for perspective, Bengals offense 522 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: ran seventy one plays and only had two plays that 523 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: gained twenty or more yards. The Ravens ran forty plays 524 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: and had eight plays that went for over twenty yards. 525 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: Those explosive plays are. 526 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: Just gut punches one out of every five. 527 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's incredible. 528 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: That's twenty percent of this is Riley taught me right 529 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: how to side for a little bit. I mean, you know, 530 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: twenty percent of your snaps are big plays, explosives. That 531 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: dog's definitely not gonna hunt if you're a defensive football team. 532 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 3: Did a lot of hunting for the Ravens, there's no question. 533 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, a final thought on young guys 534 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: and you reference Shamar Stewart. I would think final three 535 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: games will be big for him, And it looks like 536 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: the trend is he's probably we wondered he might play 537 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: this week, didn't. If he can play the final three, 538 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: that would be I think huge for his development, his confidence. 539 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: Just to get something on tape that that he can 540 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: feel good about to end the season with, I think 541 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: would mean a lot going into the off season. 542 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 3: I agree with you. And for the coaching staff, yes, 543 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 3: you know, it's like get tape, like you said, plays 544 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: from him on tape, or you can really evaluate and say, 545 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: do we need to still address this or are we good? 546 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 3: Do we see growth and development here? Do we feel 547 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: good about what's going on at the on the edge 548 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: for our defensive football team? And you know, can we 549 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: put resources somewhere else at linebacker or in the back end, 550 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: whatever we need to do on our side of the football. 551 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's let's figure it out. Let's let's do 552 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 3: the evaluating we need to do. 553 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially, it just popped into my head. Joseph Osai 554 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: is going to be in a contract situation. So you're 555 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: weighing Miles Murphy coming on on one end. If you 556 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: feel good over the final three with Shamar and then 557 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: maybe it impacts how you view Osai. Maybe it doesn't, 558 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: But a lot of questions and you just need young 559 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: progress and development. That's the bottom line. 560 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean that that is the bottom line. Young 561 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: progress and development is the lifeblood of any organization in 562 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: the NFL. 563 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: When we continue Orlando Round Junior on the offensive line 564 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: and so much more. Thanks for hanging out with us 565 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: tonight it is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network 566 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: and seven hundred. We keep moving along on this Monday night, 567 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: picking up the pieces from yesterday, and eventually we'll turn 568 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: the attention to those Miami Dolphins coming up in our 569 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: third hour tonight of Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network. 570 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: We've heard from Zach, heard from Joe, heard from Miles Murphy. 571 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: Let's go to the other side of the ball, and 572 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: up front Orlando Brown on the day that was for 573 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: the Bengals in the offensive line. Here's Orlando after the game. 574 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 17: You know, I definitely resonate with was and Joe on 575 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 17: a filling on that. 576 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 18: All right, Joe has done so much in his organization, 577 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 18: so many games he even wanted he came in today. 578 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 18: This one's on me as a guy who's a leader 579 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 18: on this team. Do you have Joe's back that like, 580 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 18: it's a team effort. 581 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 17: It's not just the quarterday, Yeah, one hundred percent of 582 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 17: team effort, man. And you know, so many things going 583 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 17: to being able to win a football game. 584 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 14: And it's not just about our. 585 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 17: Quarterback playing well or just our defense playing well. Uh, 586 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 17: so many things have to go together. And so uh, 587 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 17: today's losses and just on him, man, you know, zero 588 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 17: points offensively, We all got a hand in that, and 589 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 17: whatever that is. 590 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: You know, we'll watch the film. 591 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: We'll we'll learn from, you. 592 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 17: Know, mistakes that we made and be able to uh, 593 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 17: you know, focus on that and and make sure those 594 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 17: things don't happen again. 595 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: But it's never just on a joke. 596 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 14: Man. 597 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 18: You know what this locker room has to be a 598 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 18: third straight year Orlando without making them. 599 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 17: Playoffs against that, Yeah, it is surprising. 600 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 13: Man. 601 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 17: You know, we spend a lot of time uh in 602 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 17: the off season. Uh, we spend a lot of time 603 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 17: uh as a as a team, bonding and and and growing. 604 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 17: And so you know, anytime you don't get the opportunity 605 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 17: to be in a dance, it's it's frustrating and and 606 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 17: it sucks, man, And you know it puts it puts everybody, uh, 607 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 17: you know, in a in a difficult spot. But I 608 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 17: could tell you over these next three weeks, man, I'm 609 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 17: so thankful for the ability to play this football game. Uh, 610 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 17: you know, something always dreamed of as a young kid. 611 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 17: And so uh man, I'm I'm I'm thankful to be 612 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 17: playing for this organization. In the city and I'm gonna 613 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 17: continue to give it everything I got. But it is frustrated. 614 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 17: It's frustrating not being in the playoffs to get back 615 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 17: to the. 616 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 16: Super Bowl expectations you guys have. What do you feel 617 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 16: like it is the first step to get back? 618 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 7: Oh? 619 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a lot of different things. 620 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 9: Man. 621 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 17: It's it's hard to sit here and hang my hat 622 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 17: on one thing. But to me, you know, it just 623 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 17: it comes down to being able to to win when 624 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 17: we need to and showing up in these big games 625 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 17: and these big moments and so uh, you know, I've 626 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 17: I've been a part of those you know, special teams 627 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 17: and obviously a lot of guys in this locker room 628 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 17: were part of it, you know, here in twenty one 629 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 17: and twenty two being able to push to that point. 630 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 17: So h it's a lot of things, man that it's 631 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 17: gonna take for us to get back in that. 632 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: Position, youse. 633 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 17: Uh, definitely, definitely, you know. But the reality is that 634 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 17: the NFL, a lot of teams are close. 635 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 16: You know. 636 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 17: The way that this league is set up is designed 637 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 17: for everybody to have an even playing field, with the 638 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 17: way the draft order, the waiver wire, the cap, uh, 639 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 17: so you know what's the take to to be able 640 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 17: to win a Super Bowl? You know, that's that's a 641 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 17: whole building, that's a whole uh set of players that 642 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 17: are focused on the task at hand and understand that 643 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 17: it's one day at a time. You know, you can't 644 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 17: win the Super Bowl and September. You can't win it 645 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 17: in April. You gotta go win it when the when 646 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 17: the game's played in February. So you know, I man, 647 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 17: once we once we continue to to grow and and 648 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 17: we get to that point, to me, we'll be able 649 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 17: to hopefully finish when those that opportunity comes. 650 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 18: How much is it the test of professionalism next three 651 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 18: weeks for the guys in here, not having a shot 652 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 18: to go to the playoffs still play up to the 653 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 18: standard that you expect. 654 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 17: Yeah, it's important, man, It's important cause, Uh, I know 655 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 17: my brothers are relying on me, and you know I'm 656 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 17: gonna continue to come out here and give them all. 657 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 5: Why is that important? 658 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 11: Makes? 659 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 5: Uh? 660 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean for so many reasons. 661 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 16: Uh. 662 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 17: You know, I think there's a lot of people that 663 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 17: would you know, I don't wanna be dramatic, but. 664 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: Die for this opportunity. 665 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 17: I mean, you know, and that's that's the reality to me. So, uh, 666 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 17: you know, anytime I get the opportunity to suit up 667 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 17: in this game and and go out here and play 668 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 17: with my brothers, always give. 669 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: It all up. Orlando Brown on the uh, the struggles 670 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: and difficulties yesterday, and and Dave that it's not all 671 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: on the offensive line, and Joe admitted some of his 672 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: mistakes as well. But Joe got sacked three times, he 673 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: got hit ten times. It wasn't the crisp offensive line 674 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: play we've seen in the recent weeks for that group. 675 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: No, I mean three quarterback sacks, ten quarterback hits, and 676 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: that's not even including pressures that weren't hits. Yes, So 677 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, Joe was kind of you know, Ben Gazeera, 678 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: he was, he was on the run, he was on 679 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: the move quite a bit. You hate to see your 680 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: quarterback get sacked, but you don't want your quarterback to 681 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: get hit ten times in the National Football League. Every 682 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: time he gets hit, you know, the odds increased that 683 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: one of them may be very painful. Yes, So you 684 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: want to you want to clean that up. You want 685 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: to address that. You want to make sure three games 686 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: left in the in the regular season, you want Miami, 687 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: Arizona and Cleveland. You want to make sure that you 688 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: minimize the exposure that Joe Burrow has to pressure, resulting 689 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: in the quarterback Harrison quarterback hits. 690 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that game, I think it's fair to say, 691 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: got very chippy. And the longer it went on, the 692 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: more I worried about Joe. You're thinking, all right, this 693 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: is not their day. The last thing you really need 694 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: is a cheap shot, a laid hit, something that's going 695 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: to impact Joe. And it was trending that way multiple 696 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: times yesterday. 697 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. And you know, it's a division battle, 698 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: a heated division battle. Baltimore and Cincinnati. They there's bad 699 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: blood there. They don't really like each other, there's no 700 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: question about that. And uh and and usually more and 701 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: more of the pushing and shoving and chippiness and activity 702 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: after this play is completed happens up front. So those 703 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: are the guys that that need to kind of keep 704 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: their cool, keep their composure, and just take it out 705 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: each other. Uh, from the snap to the whistle, and 706 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: then after that go back to the huddle, line up 707 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: and do it again the next time and go snap 708 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: to whistle, No doubt about it. 709 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: Hey. Coming up in our second hour, we'll hear from 710 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase and Ted Carris and uh mortiget to as 711 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: we eventually turn to our second hour, three Big Ones 712 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: tonight to break it all down, come back and head 713 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: down the stretch of hour one as we continue with 714 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred 715 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: WLW down the stretch we go of our first hour, 716 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: first of three IF Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio 717 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: Network and Lance. 718 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: As always, we have the Kettering Health Report, the Injury Report, 719 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: that's a feature every week where really, I think, as 720 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: I think back, the Bengals didn't have any real severe 721 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: problems coming out of this football game. I don't think 722 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: anybody's gonna miss any big time. We do have a 723 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: bruised shin that you know, that's a little bit of 724 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: an issue for Osai. All of that is presented by 725 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: Kettering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals, 726 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: providing the best care for the best fans. 727 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: And how about what I'm thinking of it? And it 728 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: points to who he is and no one's ever questioned 729 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: who he is or what he's all about. Some J. P. 730 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: Ryan has carved off at one point and you turn around, 731 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: you look at he's coming right back onto the field, 732 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: and you can just imagine him saying, blankety blank, I'm 733 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: going back into that game. 734 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 3: He is a tough dude. We were talking about that, 735 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 3: you know, on the air. He came off the field, 736 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: went into the blue tent, and he was out of 737 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 3: there quickly. 738 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: Man. 739 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I guess whatever if it was, 740 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 3: if he got wrong, they cleared the concussion protocol symptoms 741 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: pretty damn quickly, that's for sure. If he had some 742 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 3: sort of an issue on a sprain or whatever it was, 743 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: it was determined not to be that severe. But that 744 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: dude is tough man, and he is physical. He is 745 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: a horse. I mean he's uh his his quadriceps, his hamstrings, 746 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: his calves strong. I mean he's got unbelievable legs, leg power, 747 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: and he churns those those legs, you know when he 748 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: moves the whole pile when he's when he's pushing runs 749 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: with a good body, lean as well, and he gives 750 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: very little hitting surface. A big, powerful back that has 751 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: good soft hands can catch it and he will block. 752 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: He will uh quarterbacks and Joe Burrow in particular will 753 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: love him. He'll stick his nose right in the chest 754 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: of linebackers and safeties and stone them. 755 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: Ten degrees at kickoff yesterday minus one wind chill, so 756 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: cold yesterday, so cold yesterday the booth windows were closed, 757 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 2: that they were or on orders closed the booth windows 758 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 2: or you know what Yd's equipment freezing up or anything 759 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: like that. You know why you had uncomfortable honestly during 760 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: the game, as will so close him and everybody. But 761 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 2: you know, it's cold when the windows have to be closed, 762 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: and that's the way it was yesterday. 763 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what governing body 764 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 3: makes that decision you and I'm not sure who makes 765 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: the call un closing uh closing the windows at pay Corps. 766 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: But it was toasty. The booth was very comfortable, and 767 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: no question about that. I know it was chili willie 768 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: for the boys out in the field. And I remember 769 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: when it was like in the freezer. 770 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: Ball man, you think about that, I said, you know, 771 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: yesterday and obviously a big deal is made out of 772 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: the weather windshill minus won and I'm looking around one 773 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: wait a minute, I mean, certainly everybody remembers what minus 774 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 2: fould we think of just saying it out loud minus 775 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: fifty nine wind chill. That doesn't even sound humanly possible, 776 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 2: and yet it very much was possible. 777 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was cruel and unusual punishment. I 778 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 3: can say that, man, I have never been close to 779 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: that cold at any other point in my lifetime. And 780 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: they came close to calling that game, postponing the game. 781 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: It was like in the in the final hour, really 782 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: they made the determination to just go ahead and let 783 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: it roll out. Yesterday's game was never in any danger 784 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: of you know, postponement, cancelation for twenty four hours or whatever. 785 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: But yeah, that was chili. And I can identify man 786 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: watching the take cares out there and warm ups and 787 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: shorts and T shirt and I'm. 788 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: Thinking there's Ted keeping up the tradition, the old line 789 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: way to go Ted. Yes, we'll hear more from here 790 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: from Ted coming up. In our second era, we turned 791 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: the corner. It's Bengals line and the Bengals Radio Network 792 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: and seven hundred WLW. 793 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. Pay Corps. 794 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Pay Corps proud to be the official HR software provider 795 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: of US Cincinnati Bengals kettering el Best Care for the 796 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: Best Fans Kettering ELF, official healthcare provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 797 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: This is seven hundred WLW, the home of the best 798 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Bengals coverage. 799 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in about to unfold our two of 800 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: Bengals line and there's Monday Night of the Bengals Radio Network. 801 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with us. We're sorting through what 802 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: transpired yesterday at pay Court twenty four and nothing over 803 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: the Ravens. We've got the Dolphins to look ahead to 804 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: in our third hour as well. We get busy with 805 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: it in the first hour. Let's begin our two with 806 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: the Jamar Chase, Bengal wide receiver had a ten catch 807 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: day yesterday, ten catches, one hundred and thirty two yards 808 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: a long of thirty four. Here's Jamar with the reaction 809 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: after the game. 810 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: Where did you. 811 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 10: Think that game got away today? Why was it so 812 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 10: hard to create offensive rhythm? 813 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 14: Just wasn't executing a little bit? 814 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 19: Wasn't pushing the ball on the field when getting putting 815 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 19: ourselves in position on third down? Or get the ball 816 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 19: on the field and just get a raison? You know, 817 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 19: I dropped a I dropped a slam on the first 818 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 19: series that put us in a position to get a 819 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 19: t uh field goal or touch down, and Uh, I 820 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 19: put that on myself dropping that path. 821 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 5: Did he take us through? 822 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: Uh? 823 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 11: The gobo? 824 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 5: I think it was on the next drive? Yeah? 825 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 11: Did he just you not get your head around cause 826 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 11: he was grabbed. 827 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 20: Yeah. 828 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 19: He twist M like he try this some sneaky that 829 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 19: was pretty pretty good for him, pulled my help and 830 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 19: you know it caused me to jerk my body and 831 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 19: uh in two ways, and I just couldn't find a ball. 832 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 9: Jo was especial league hard on himself and as he 833 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 9: he had elblities and was one of the worst things 834 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 9: he ever played. 835 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 14: What was your thoughts on Joe's cart. 836 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 19: Uh, I've been knowing Joe for a long time, and 837 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 19: at the end of the day, I know where he's 838 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 19: capable of. I know when he's off, I know when 839 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 19: he's on. But I gotta find a way to help him. 840 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 19: You know what I'm saying. It he's off on, it 841 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 19: don't matter. I gotta beat that for him, encourage him, you. 842 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 14: Know what I'm saying. Just do whatever I can for you. 843 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 13: At a couple of thirty yard catches, Jamorrow but what's 844 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 13: their plan to take away the deep ball? Is that 845 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 13: what Baltimore prioritize. 846 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 19: I'm not sure what they planning was today, but I'm 847 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 19: sure it was not for us to score. 848 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 7: So what'd you been? 849 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 5: What's it like to see if Beast are called himself 850 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 5: after a game? I think the most he's ever after. 851 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 2: Any kind of fuck. 852 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 19: He just he just really loved the game. Man, he 853 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 19: just wanna be great. And at think then I could 854 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 19: respect that from him. But like he told me, don't care. 855 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 19: I ain't gonna I ain't gonna let him kill himself 856 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 19: mentally by just one game he played better. 857 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 13: How hard is it to accept the fact that you're 858 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 13: officially alarm? 859 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 14: Hard pill to swallow? But I mean, at the end 860 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 14: of the day, is where we got a live with. 861 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 5: How would you sum up this season? 862 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 9: Howse the the the roller baster or stups and down 863 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 9: everything that he doesn't know? 864 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 19: Yeah, we just I don't know. I don't know if 865 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 19: I mean, I don't know, Man, you gotta find a 866 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 19: way at the end of the day. 867 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 14: A complimentary football has been tough for you guys this year. 868 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: Why is it doing so much harder this year than. 869 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 19: Past season, but that that don't mean nothing, you know 870 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 19: what I'm saying. As in the day, we still have 871 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 19: opportunities to put ourselves in a position with the close 872 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 19: games and we dat them. So uh we just gotta 873 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 19: you gotta find a way to execute them. 874 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 14: And when games going. 875 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 5: Forward, do you still believe in this coaching stuff? 876 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 11: Yeah? 877 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 19: I mean we had great plays today, that was opportunities 878 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 19: so for us to score and and and kill 'em deep, 879 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 19: but you know, sometimes we just didn't connected. 880 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 3: So be it three straight seasons missing the playoffs. 881 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 11: What kind of changes would you like to see in 882 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 11: this offseason? 883 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 19: M You know, if I if I can, if I 884 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 19: had to say so, it'd probably be be something. But 885 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 19: I don't know what I could do. So all I 886 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 19: could do is control what I could control. 887 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: How do you. 888 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 21: Approach these last three weeks now, you know, being eliminated, 889 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 21: just playing towards. 890 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 11: The end of the season. 891 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 19: Uh, I just gotta be a leader man, be a captain, 892 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 19: pushing the guys forward and just trying to finish strong. 893 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 10: What kind of battitude they wanna say after this SAFS playing. 894 00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 14: It's just about finishing strong. 895 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 19: Had playing many everybody got come in and work we 896 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 19: all coming in the same thing, doing the same stuff 897 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 19: every day. Everybody time is being doing being put in 898 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 19: around the same thing. So we gotta come in and 899 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 19: just keep pushing it and just finish strong. That's all 900 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 19: I think we could do. At the end of the day. 901 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 5: Three years ago, when you guys left the Arrow had 902 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 5: losing the second ARC Championship, they told you that you 903 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 5: wouldn't be back, just didn't a plan over the next 904 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 5: three years. What do you think your. 905 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 14: Reaction would have been, Uh, I probably wouldn't believe you. 906 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 12: What's the attribute to think y'all probably missing most to 907 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 12: get back to that point? 908 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 14: Could again, what's the. 909 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 5: Attribute y'all are missing most as a team? More than that? 910 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: More like is there? 911 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 14: I'm not sure. Man. At the end of the day, offense, 912 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 14: it's either. 913 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 19: The offense is clicking or the defense is clicking. One 914 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 19: of the days we we have never yet to put 915 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 19: our offense and defense together as one unit and play 916 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 19: together with. 917 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 10: So much on the line this week, Jamark, did you 918 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 10: guys feel mentally prepared to take on the Ravens today? 919 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 19: I I believe we felt mentally prepared. But it's the 920 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 19: best of the best that then and it's the NFL. 921 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 19: And what's the hardest part? 922 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: I play again, when it's that hold out there, what's 923 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 2: the hardest part? 924 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 14: Trying trying to breathe, trying to breathe? Yeah? 925 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: Does that make everything. 926 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 5: You're seeing that much more intense? 927 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 3: Just tough? 928 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 2: When everything's aren't going on? 929 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 5: How much more difficult does it feel when it is 930 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 5: that cold? 931 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 19: I mean, you gotta it's football, man, and the day 932 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 19: it's a physical sport. But the cold don't make it 933 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 19: no better. And you you gotta be out there, you 934 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 19: gotta play. 935 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 13: Does surviving in the ground, like when you're catching the ball? 936 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 11: Does that change in the cold? 937 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 6: Does? 938 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 9: It seemed like that was an Issu're not just for 939 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 9: anyone in particular, but as a whole. 940 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 3: The skin. 941 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 14: Like surviving getting tackled, like knowing how to fall and stuff. 942 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 9: Like when you're catching the ball and you to make 943 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 9: you have a completion when you hit the ground. 944 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 14: I I don't pay attention to I'm not gonna lie you. 945 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 14: I mean to get in the hit on them. I'm 946 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 14: not so more. 947 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 5: You know Joe better than just about anybody. 948 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 14: What do you do to lift him? 949 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: What? 950 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 14: What I from being honest? 951 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 19: I never I never been in a situation with him 952 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 19: where I had to uplift him, you know what I'm saying. 953 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 19: But going forward, I might need to because he does 954 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 19: it to me at the end of the day, and 955 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 19: you never know what he might be going through, so 956 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 19: I might I might need to start doing that. 957 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 13: You know, your bottom line is winning and losing. But 958 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 13: does the shutout make it worse? Does that rep you 959 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 13: the wrong way? 960 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 19: If I'm being honest, I read blown out, then be 961 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 19: playing in a close game and lose byfield goal, so that. 962 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 11: Jam Joe burrows a stage. 963 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 14: I'm not sure. This is my first time. 964 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 19: You know, probably going to have to if anything, but 965 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 19: I probably doubt I will, But. 966 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 14: I don't know. 967 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 19: We just probably just gonna kick it, chill and just 968 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 19: try not to talk about football. 969 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 14: If I'm being honest, Yeah. 970 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 6: Is it adds like a weird feeling? 971 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: Not really, No, Jamar Chase on a difficult day, he 972 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: was targeted sixteen times. You know it's it. It wasn't 973 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 2: and Jamar kind of alluded to it. There was there 974 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 2: were times where he and Joe didn't seem to be 975 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: on the same page, But in the end, it's still 976 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 2: a ten think about it. It's still a ten catch, 977 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty two yard day for Jamar Chase, 978 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 2: which shows his greatness. He's still able to have a 979 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: day like that when it maybe it wasn't at the 980 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: most proficient level between he and his quarterback. 981 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jamar referenced it. He said in the locker 982 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 3: room back to the game. You know, Joe was off. 983 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: Joe wasn't like Joe can be. You know, Joe wasn't precision, 984 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: pinpoint accuracy. I wanted to try to help as as 985 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 3: much as I possibly could. We've been together for a 986 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 3: long time, all the way back to the LSU days, 987 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 3: and probably I don't know about the All Star gamers too, 988 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: not who knows, but they know each other cold, they 989 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 3: know exactly. They've got kind of esp in terms of 990 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: being on the same page and seeing the game the 991 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 3: same way, seeing coverage is the same way, seeing defenses 992 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 3: the same the same way, and they can tell when 993 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 3: each other's having a good day or a bad day 994 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 3: or whatever and the reasons for it. So yeah, it 995 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: it definitely was not. It was a big day for Jamar. 996 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 3: How about targeted sixteen times? Many and really quarterbacks, you know, 997 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 3: I remember when Kenny would say, you know, when you're 998 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 3: in struggling, when you're not things aren't going the way 999 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 3: you anticipated them to go, you look for the guy 1000 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 3: that's your safety net. You look for the guy that, 1001 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 3: no matter what, you know, he's gonna be where he's 1002 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 3: supposed to be when he's supposed to be there, doing 1003 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 3: exactly what he's supposed to do. And uh, Kenny had Trump, 1004 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 3: he loved, he loved to locate Bob Trumpy and you know, 1005 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 3: the pro bowler stepped up for Kenny many times. And 1006 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 3: that's the relationship that Jamar Chase and Joe Borrow have 1007 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: as well. 1008 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a great point in the trust and 1009 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 2: know he's going to be there, because, let's be honest, 1010 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: Yoshi had another yesterday and in Tinsley had a moment 1011 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 2: where he probably should have had a touchdown catch at 1012 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 2: the end zone. And it's only you're only human, if 1013 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 2: you're Joe of if there's enough that you store in 1014 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 2: the back of your mind and you wonder about you 1015 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: never have to wonder about throwing the ball to Jamar 1016 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 2: Chase or or somebody. And he wasn't there yesterday. So 1017 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 2: sixteen targets makes a lot of sense. If you're calculating 1018 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 2: in the back of your mind, Am I gonna throw 1019 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 2: it to player A, B or C who maybe not 1020 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 2: in the right spot might make the dry ar? Am 1021 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: I just gonna maybe force it a little bit to 1022 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 2: Jamaar because I know where he's gonna be. And it's 1023 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: easy to do that. 1024 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It's easy to start to fall into 1025 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 3: that trap a little bit. And speaking about T Higgins, 1026 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: you know he's from the Florida area originally. For him 1027 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 3: to go down to Miami and play against the Dolphins 1028 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 3: is a big deal. It's a big deal for him, 1029 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 3: for his family, for his friends. Everybody's going to be 1030 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: excited to watch T Higgins perform and he who probably 1031 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 3: I'll guarantee you T Higgins is playing on, putting on 1032 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 3: a show. And have you know, like almost a double 1033 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 3: digit catch, you know, maybe seven to ten catches for 1034 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 3: you know, one hundred and twenty five to one hundred 1035 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 3: and forty yards, a couple of touchdowns. I could see 1036 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 3: those kind of numbers for T Higgins in this football 1037 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: game against the Dolphins. 1038 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 2: One final thought on Jamar, I thought maybe the most 1039 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 2: telling thing he said after the game was about his 1040 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 2: connection with Joe, and you alluded to how they understand 1041 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 2: each other, and I thought it was pretty powerful when 1042 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 2: Jamar said, I've never been in this situation where I 1043 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 2: have to uplift him, but going forward, I might need to. 1044 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 2: Joe does it to me. At the end of the day, 1045 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 2: you never know what he might be going through, so 1046 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 2: I might need to start doing that. And I think 1047 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: that's great recognition of Jamar of his quarterback. His friend 1048 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 2: isn't where he usually is. Where there, it's mentally physically 1049 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: and needs needs him now, and I think that's great 1050 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 2: recognition by Jamar of what he has to do now. 1051 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you're right, And I think 1052 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 3: you know, Joe made mention after the game that he's 1053 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 3: got some personal things that he's dealing with. It's not 1054 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 3: necessarily football related, it's not organizational related to the Cincinnati Bengals, 1055 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 3: but he has to work through and sort through some things. 1056 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 3: And if anybody can help him do that and forget 1057 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: about those things, it's Jamar Chase and t Higgins, yep. 1058 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 3: And I just I think both of them are gonna 1059 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 3: combine for a massive day down there against the Miami Dolphins. 1060 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 3: I can see them really saying, Joe, we got your back, buddy. 1061 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 3: You know you've had ours many many times. Yes, you've 1062 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: made us look good. Time for us to make you 1063 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 3: look good. We got you, bro. 1064 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 2: Very well, said, very well, said still ahead. Ted Carris 1065 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 2: on the day that was at pay Corps. This is 1066 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 2: Bengals on on the Bengals Radio network and seven hundred WLW. 1067 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: Let's keep covidight along on this Monday night of Bengals 1068 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 2: on on the Bengals Radio network in seven hundred WLW. 1069 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 2: And let's get back into the offensive line side of things. 1070 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: Ted Carris talking after the game about the day that 1071 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: was for the Bengals. Here is the Bengals center. 1072 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 13: Ted, I'll get Baltimore credit. They played well on defense. 1073 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 13: What were some of the things that they did well today? 1074 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 22: Finish in the red zone with turnovers and knocks out 1075 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 22: a field goal range. 1076 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 11: So zero points ridiculous. 1077 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 13: Those first couple of drives which you're alluding to. You 1078 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 13: got to the twenty five the first time, the twenty 1079 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 13: nine the second time and didn't come away with points. 1080 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 13: How much of a momentum swing is that? How much 1081 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 13: does that knock you back? 1082 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 22: I mean, defense gave up seventeen points. That should be 1083 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 22: enough to beat the Baltimore Ravens. 1084 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 3: So not good enough. 1085 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 13: Third downs were great last week, it was a struggle today. 1086 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 13: Anything stand out off the top of your head. 1087 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 3: Not yet. 1088 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 22: I'm gonna go home and watch it. So, but didn't 1089 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,879 Speaker 22: convert enough, obviously, and didn't score enough points. 1090 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 13: Were How big of a factor were the weather conditions? 1091 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 5: Non factor? 1092 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 13: You just got it out. You just got it out. Yeah, 1093 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 13: you beat these guys a week and a half ago, essentially, 1094 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,439 Speaker 13: how did that affect the game today? Could you tell 1095 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 13: that they were now hell bent on evening the score? 1096 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 14: I'm sure they were, and so were we. 1097 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 22: So they executed way better than we did and won 1098 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 22: the football game twenty four to nothing. 1099 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 3: So you gotta gotta go take a look at it. 1100 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 11: And then, uh got three weeks left to do something? 1101 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 13: What is the goal the mission for these final three weeks? 1102 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 3: Win? 1103 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 13: It's almost hard to fathom a game where you guys 1104 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 13: don't score. You've been so good offensively. How does it, 1105 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 13: you know, strike you when you look up at the 1106 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 13: end of the game and you got a goosegg on 1107 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 13: the scoreboard? 1108 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't strike me. 1109 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 22: Well, So we gotta I mean at zero points unacceptable 1110 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 22: at any any level of football in the NFL with 1111 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 22: the most dynamic offense. 1112 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 14: So I gotta go take a look at it. 1113 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 3: And get ready for Miami. 1114 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 2: Ted Carris after the game, and Dave Ted alluded to it. 1115 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: Joe alluded to it. The Ravens this time around seemed 1116 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 2: to be able to get pressure without blitzing a lot, 1117 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 2: just four man pressure, which was different than the match 1118 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 2: two weeks ago. It just seemed like they figured out 1119 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 2: something that gave the Bengals some problems from that standpoint. 1120 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, the fact that they got significant pressure, 1121 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,919 Speaker 3: you know, three quarterback sacks and hit the quarterback hits, 1122 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: the knockdowns, the pressures making Joe uncomfortable, making him throw 1123 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 3: the ball before he really wanted to, before he felt 1124 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 3: comfortable with what he saw. That that that's kind of surprising, honestly, 1125 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 3: because you got five to block four and then you're 1126 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 3: gonna have back out of the backfield as a safety valve, 1127 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 3: little safety net, and Joe can get the if he's 1128 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 3: got any problems, get the ball down, check it down 1129 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 3: to him right away. Uh. So, the fact that that 1130 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 3: speaks to not only the pressure that the Miami Dolphins 1131 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 3: put on with their four man rush. Everybody was winning 1132 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 3: more matchups going one on one against the Bengals offensive 1133 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 3: lineman than they lost. They they also had good coverage 1134 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 3: in the back end because you know, Joe is known 1135 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: for getting the ball out, getting the ball out quickly. 1136 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 3: I mean it's almost like he seems to and when 1137 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 3: the ball's come in the shotgun, he catches it and 1138 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 3: throws it all one motion. I mean, never really even 1139 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 3: hold on to the football for any any period of time. 1140 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, it speaks to how well they looked at 1141 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 3: the at the first matchup and said, you know what, 1142 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 3: we're going to change everything. We're we're we've only got 1143 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 3: a little bit of time. You know, we do have 1144 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 3: to game plan obviously for the opponent in between here, 1145 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,839 Speaker 3: but we are gonna we're gonna do things a lot 1146 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 3: differently the next time we face the Cincinnati Bengals, and 1147 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 3: it turned out to be real successful. 1148 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: By the way. Final thought before the bottom they are 1149 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 2: on Ted Carris and thinking of offensive lineman and the 1150 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 2: cold Uh, there's the legendary story of the vasolene. Do 1151 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 2: our our offensive lineman? And are you allowed today to 1152 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 2: wear vasoline? Or was that banned or outlawed. Did anything 1153 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: change after you guys did it? 1154 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 3: That's a good question. I'm not sure how the league 1155 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 3: handled that. I'm not sure if there were any any 1156 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 3: changes to what you were allowed to do from a 1157 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 3: uniform code standpoint. But I don't think yesterday it was 1158 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 3: necessarily you know, so called that you had to resort 1159 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 3: to that. 1160 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 2: It wasn't a vaciline day. 1161 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 3: It might not have been a vacine day, right, what 1162 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 3: might not have been? 1163 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 2: We've reached the bottom of the hour, Hang tight, much 1164 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 2: more to get to. He's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but callister. 1165 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 2: This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and 1166 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back in on this Monday 1167 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 2: night of FENOS on Bengals Radio. If to get seven 1168 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 2: hundred WLW. We've talked to offense, we've talked defense. We're 1169 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 2: making our way through what all took place yesterday at 1170 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 2: pay Corps and let's oh, I know, as I'm thinking 1171 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 2: about it, we left off with the vasiline and you'll 1172 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 2: appreciate this. One of my other broadcast partners, Rocky Boyman, 1173 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 2: has told a story from a defensive side of things. 1174 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 2: He used to. Now tell me if you've ever heard 1175 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 2: of this. He used to spray what amounted to like 1176 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 2: pam cooking spray silicon. Yes, so you guys are the 1177 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 2: offensive side couldn't get a hold of it. Have you 1178 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: heard of that? Now that's illegal, he's he's I think 1179 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 2: he said, now it's illegal. But they used to just. 1180 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We had defensive players. Bengal teammates 1181 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 3: did it, and defensive players did it that. I was 1182 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 3: playing against h frequently regularly, and it was I mean, 1183 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 3: it'd be like. 1184 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 2: What the heck is that slipping right off? 1185 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 3: If there's some slick stuff right there, boy, it really is. 1186 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 2: That's beautiful looking at guys lockers. Hey, yeah, you got cologne, 1187 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 2: you got the deoder, you got what you've got Pam 1188 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: crooking spreads what that cooking spray? For whatever it takes, 1189 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 2: whatever advantage there is to be found, it will eventually 1190 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 2: be found. 1191 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 3: There's no question about it. 1192 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 2: Wayne box Miller yesterday had a chance to talk with 1193 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 2: McKinley Jackson, the Bengals second year defensive lineman, who had 1194 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 2: some interesting thoughts about learning to be a professional, understanding professionalism, 1195 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 2: and kind of knowing the game I thought it was 1196 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 2: worth listening to McKinley. Then, Dave, I want to ask 1197 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 2: you about just learning to be a pro when you 1198 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 2: enter the league. Here is Wayne box Miller with McKinley Jackson. 1199 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 23: Let's talk about the difference so far for you between 1200 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 23: year one and the following year. 1201 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 20: Uh, it's been a big transition just understanding how the 1202 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 20: NFL leads and just understanding the routine. But as far 1203 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 20: as like just you know, playing should at the same 1204 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 20: intelligence go out there. I stted to prove myself and 1205 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 20: you know, do whatever it takes to win. 1206 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 23: You know, you came from a high level college conference 1207 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 23: at CC, you come here. Talk about the preparation that 1208 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 23: gave you. Do you feel like that prepared you a 1209 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 23: little bit more because you were in competition every week 1210 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 23: in that league. 1211 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 20: Nah, competition never dictated my preparation. That's one thing I 1212 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 20: would say, just a preparation just to being around professional 1213 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 20: other professional athletes. And there's thirty one other teams, so 1214 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 20: I mean other guys are preparing to you know, play 1215 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 20: the world the best work CLIs of athletes, So I 1216 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 20: feel like you got to take it upon yourself to 1217 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 20: prepare these situations and you know, it's a weekend and 1218 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 20: we got Uh. It doesn't get any easier and these 1219 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 20: wins are hard fought. So you know, just preparing is 1220 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 20: the biggest thing rather than just just god given ability 1221 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 20: brute strength. Just just the preparation is the biggest thing. 1222 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 23: Talk about the veterans and what they mean to you 1223 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 23: when you come in, because there's so much about this 1224 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 23: game that's different at this level. 1225 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 20: Yeah, you just obviously you want to just look at 1226 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 20: look at them and just if all that shadowt and 1227 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 20: just you know, just keen on what they're doing to 1228 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 20: get to these uh these mark second contract. 1229 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 3: Uh you're eight year nine All pros Pro Bowlers. Uh. 1230 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 20: Some guys been here at a BA Football Champs. So 1231 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 20: it's like, you know, you want to take every circle 1232 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 20: and everything that they give out. You know, it's a 1233 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,240 Speaker 20: it's just a place where like no one is bigger 1234 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 20: than the team, and you know what's better than next man? 1235 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 20: So it's nothing but gaming. I can learn from each guy. 1236 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,439 Speaker 23: Do you feel a sense of accomplishment as you pick 1237 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 23: up nuggets and different things and you have those aha 1238 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 23: moments like, man, this is really starting to come together 1239 00:56:59,640 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 23: for me. 1240 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 20: No, I put the person on myself because I mean 1241 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 20: the world is full of critics, so you can't never 1242 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 20: be you can't you can't never be comfortable in this game. 1243 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 20: And it's always send me to work on. So it's 1244 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 20: a sense of accomplishment. I mean, once the ring hitting 1245 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 20: my finger and then these guys feel in the locker room, 1246 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 20: I feel accomplished then. But until then, you know, I'm 1247 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 20: putting my head down and I put my heart head on. 1248 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 23: How do you feel about the players you play with, 1249 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 23: because many of them, when I talk to them, they 1250 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 23: talk about you, and you get that. You don't get words, 1251 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 23: something to forget the eyebrow. I was like, man, they 1252 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 23: really just appreciate who you are and how you play. 1253 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 20: I appreciate that, and I appreciate these guys for sitting 1254 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 20: here just being paid with me, you know, early on, 1255 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 20: like you know, it took me a little bit to 1256 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 20: understand professionalism, especially in this league. And you know, you know, 1257 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 20: once I get it, I get a downpack. Guys are 1258 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 20: really like you know, they trusted me, and I went 1259 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 20: out there and I made players, and you know, hopefully 1260 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 20: I can keep doing that and just just do it 1261 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 20: a high level and keep continuously doing it and making 1262 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 20: plays for this team, helping them. It's get the best 1263 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 20: position to get in the playoffs and then you know 1264 00:57:59,200 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 20: we go on from there. 1265 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 23: Lastly, I always say to young guys, at some point 1266 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 23: you realize that the game of football gives way to 1267 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 23: the business of football. When did that kind of hit you, 1268 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 23: because it seems like you learned that pretty early. 1269 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 20: Yeah, and yeah, it was a it was a tough spot, 1270 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 20: especially this year, just you know, not getting out there 1271 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 20: and not helping his team, not helping his team and 1272 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 20: just contributing. I mean, no matter if we went on losing, 1273 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 20: it's just that you still want to contribute. And I'm 1274 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 20: just a guy that never never was not able to 1275 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 20: play football unless I was you know, injured in my 1276 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 20: whole life. So this year there's been a testament to 1277 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 20: just uh my faith and just staying patient and you know, 1278 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 20: trusting my coach and schurch on my teammates and you know, 1279 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 20: doing my part as a player, and you know, we can, 1280 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 20: we can. We got out just beend on it and 1281 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 20: you know, hopefully being an impact forul player for this 1282 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 20: team and just uh to continue for us to get 1283 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 20: better and get another winning Well. 1284 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 3: You know, I have no question that's gonna come. 1285 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 23: I see how hard you work, and your peers respect you, 1286 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 23: so thank you so much for spending time with us. 1287 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 1288 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 2: Thank you box with McKinley, Jackson and David. I thought 1289 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 2: it was very interesting to hear McKinley, who's in his 1290 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 2: second year and has had his ups and downs and 1291 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 2: moments and not so great moments, but say and admit 1292 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 2: it took him a minute to understand how to be 1293 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 2: a professional on this level. And the more I've thought 1294 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 2: about that, it is one thing for preparation and preparing 1295 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 2: your body and your mind. In college, you get to 1296 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 2: be a pro. You've got a lot more free time, 1297 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 2: you don't have class, you got paid, you got a 1298 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 2: nice paycheck, signing bonus. There is a there's a big 1299 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 2: gap between what it means to be a pro high 1300 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 2: school college to pro. That's a huge jump. And it 1301 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 2: doesn't always doesn't always click with guys right away, does it. 1302 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. And the best thing to have as 1303 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 3: a mentor, Yes, you know somebody that's done it, done it, 1304 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 3: and has done it well and has done it maybe 1305 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 3: close to the timeframe that you're doing it. If you've 1306 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 3: got a guy that has had success, a modicum of success, 1307 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 3: and he's in his fourth year, for example, you know, 1308 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 3: go pick his brain, Go sit down with him in 1309 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 3: the locker room, or you know, outside the locker room 1310 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 3: at a restaurant having a bite, heat or whatever. And 1311 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 3: what what do you do? Man? How do you how 1312 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 3: do you get ready? How do you look at tape? 1313 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 3: How do you study? 1314 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 7: What? 1315 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: What are some of the keys? What are some of 1316 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 3: the tips. A guy that was big for me was 1317 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 3: Bob Johnson. Bob Johnson had uh everything in terms of 1318 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 3: being a pros pro. He understood the game of football 1319 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 3: at the highest possible level. He was an offensive Lineman 1320 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 3: of the Year at Tennessee when he was a college 1321 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 3: football player, first pick ever in the Cincinnati Bengals in 1322 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 3: the history of their franchise. So, you know, I read 1323 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 3: about all that stuff about Bob Johnson. When I got 1324 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 3: drafted by the Bengals. I got a media guide and 1325 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 3: started boning up on some teammates and stuff, and then think, 1326 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 3: I'm listen to this dude. I think he might know 1327 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 3: what the hell he's talking about. And he and Bob 1328 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 3: Trumpy were roommates and they were both unbelievable resources for 1329 01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 3: me as a rookie that didn't know what the hell 1330 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 3: was going on. 1331 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would imagine it takes your your special veterans, 1332 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 2: because I would think there would be some veterans who 1333 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 2: might look and say, well, here comes the young buck, 1334 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 2: and he's gonna take my job. I'm not gonna I'm 1335 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 2: not at all. It says a lot about the veteran 1336 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 2: who is the willing mentor ultimately. 1337 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 3: No question about it. That and that is, that is 1338 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 3: a fact. You know, when you're maybe like Isaac Curtis 1339 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 3: and you have such unique talent, skill talent and skill set, 1340 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 3: I should say, uh, you know an Olympic caliber sprinter 1341 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 3: that had you know, sticky fingers, glue fingers. You know 1342 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 3: that you know that they're going to find a role 1343 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 3: for you, a spot for you. You're going to be 1344 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 3: taking a ton of snaps. So you don't go ahead 1345 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 3: and help a young buck out. You know, there's no 1346 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 3: question about it. But if you're a guy that is 1347 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 3: is basically fighting and scraping to make the football team, 1348 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 3: you're you know, holding your breath on final cutdown day 1349 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 3: year after year. You're not going to give a young rook, 1350 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 3: a young buck that was a high draft pick. Any 1351 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 3: help whatsoever. 1352 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 2: And we're talking, I mean the scope and the scale 1353 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 2: of doing this. It's understanding how important sleep is, how 1354 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 2: important diet is. Always go back to a conversation I 1355 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 2: used to always have with John Thornton, the former Bengal 1356 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 2: of how important it was. On Fridays for him, he 1357 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 2: always had a massage, therapy, acupuncture, and he used to 1358 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 2: always say, I invest in my body. It will cost 1359 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 2: X number of dollars a year for a masseuse and 1360 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 2: for acupunction everything else. But he says that investment translates 1361 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 2: to another year and another year and those that's money, 1362 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 2: and that's that's an investment in my body means I 1363 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 2: get to play longer and I get to make more money. 1364 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean you get a look at it as 1365 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 3: a business. Yes, it's a it's a it's a business, 1366 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 3: and you don't have to worry about inventory and inventory 1367 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 3: control and all that sort of thing. But your body 1368 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 3: is basically what your whole job is all about. And 1369 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 3: taking care of your body to the best of the 1370 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 3: ability is huge. And if you can get two or 1371 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,919 Speaker 3: three more years, that's hundreds of thousands of dollars if 1372 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 3: you can at the end of the season and you're 1373 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 3: making a playoff push and your body is well rested, 1374 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 3: well nourished, you're not tired. You're gonna play it better. 1375 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 2: That's a great point. 1376 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 3: You're gonna play better, and now you're gonna get more, 1377 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 3: you know, quote bonus money. You're gonna get additional money, 1378 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 3: more game checks. You know, as you get to the 1379 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 3: the AFC, NFC championship games. We're talking serious dollars. In 1380 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl is a big payday. 1381 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 2: I give McKinley Jackson credit for the recognition and their 1382 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 2: articulation of that. I didn't understand right away how to 1383 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 2: be a professional, and you hope that lesson learned prolongs 1384 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 2: and extends his career. Sadly, the example on the other 1385 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 2: end is somebody like Jermaine Burton who didn't seemingly wasn't 1386 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: able to figure it out, and now he's on the 1387 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 2: street looking for another opportunity, and maybe he learns from 1388 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 2: that lesson. But that's the difference between staying in the 1389 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 2: league and looking for your life's work someplace else. 1390 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, you gotta give McKinley Jackson a lot 1391 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 3: of credits from being like introspective, you know, and and 1392 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 3: looking inside himself and being honest with himself and and 1393 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 3: uh doing what he needs to do and finding out 1394 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 3: what he needs to find out to survive in advance 1395 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 3: as a professional. Burton, on the other hand, he just 1396 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 3: never got to figure out like you said, he just uh, 1397 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 3: you know, A plus B did not equal see ever 1398 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 3: for Burton. Unfortunately, when we continue, I have a list. 1399 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 2: I made the mistake of starting to jot down to 1400 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 2: all the Bengals third downs yesterday off basively, and I like, 1401 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 2: and then I got very depressed. I wanted to stop. 1402 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 2: But we'll talk about the third down struggles and more 1403 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 2: as we continue these Dave Blapham My Glance, but callister 1404 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 2: Bengals Line is the show. It's on the Bengals Radio 1405 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 2: Network and it's on seven hundred w l W. We 1406 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 2: continue on this Monday. I talk at Bengals from all angles, 1407 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 2: and we've got plenty more to get to in our 1408 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 2: third hour tonight as well, look ahead to those Miami 1409 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Dolphins as well. I mentioned the third downs, and I 1410 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 2: guess we must. We must go back through what transpired 1411 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 2: for the Bengals offensively on third down fifteen opportunities. Yesterday 1412 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 2: they converted their very first one to third and two 1413 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 2: and wound up for the game three of fifteen on 1414 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,439 Speaker 2: third down yesterday, you wonder you look back and you say, 1415 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 2: how did they not score? How did they get into 1416 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 2: territory plus territory so many times and not score? If 1417 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 2: you're three of fifteen, it's awfully hard to sustain drives 1418 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 2: and put points on the board. 1419 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean that is that's twenty percent third down conversion. 1420 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 3: That is failure. I mean that is brutal. The first 1421 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 3: third down, third and two, they pick up five yards. 1422 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 3: That's the one they made that you described lance. The second, 1423 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 3: third down, third and four, they get sacked for fifteen yard. Sacked. 1424 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 3: Joe's running around back there trying to create an extent 1425 01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 3: and losing yardage. 1426 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 2: And took took him out of field goal. 1427 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean that was a big mistake right there. 1428 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 3: You know, throw it away, throw it away, take the incompletion. 1429 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 3: You know, at least you can have them McPherson lineup 1430 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 3: and kick a long field goal for you. Third third down, 1431 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 3: third and four, they pick up two, So now it's 1432 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 3: fourth and two. The next third down, third and five, interception. 1433 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 3: Third and nine they pick up seven. Now it's fourth 1434 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 3: and two. They had a third and nineteen. Third and 1435 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 3: nineteen and try to throw the football obviously, and it's incomplete. 1436 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,959 Speaker 3: Third and four, throw the football incomplete. Third and one 1437 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 3: they run the ball and they pick it up two yards. Okay, 1438 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 3: first down, how about that? Hall Lujah, Praise the Lord. 1439 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 3: The next one, third and eight failed, they run the football, 1440 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 3: excuse me, throw the football? They pick up two yards. 1441 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 3: Next one, third and one fail, run it, gain nothing, zilch, 1442 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 3: not a squash douche on number eleven, Third and six incomplete, 1443 01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 3: pass number twelve, goal to go first in goal. This 1444 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 3: is the pick six. That's the basically basically close the 1445 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 3: game out. Say you know, it's history, Katie, bar the door. 1446 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 3: Third and one, they pick it up, they run the 1447 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 3: ball for six yards. How about that one, that's big. 1448 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 3: Third and seven incomplete or excuse me, run the football, 1449 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 3: don't make it and only pick up three and the 1450 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,440 Speaker 3: final one, third and six they throw the football, only 1451 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 3: pick up five yards, and they have a fourth and one. 1452 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 3: I mean that is third down inefficiency at its past. 1453 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's really it's really a sad, sad 1454 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,800 Speaker 3: commentary going through that list. 1455 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 2: That means on the day, the fifteen third down opportunities, 1456 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 2: they did not convert one that was beyond a third 1457 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 2: and two. Think about that for a second. They on 1458 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 2: third and four to five yards they went oh for four. 1459 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 2: On third and six or more they went oh for seven. 1460 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 2: They converted nothing that was longer than third and two 1461 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 2: the entire afternoon. I don't even know how that's possible. 1462 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's face it, I mean, third and four, 1463 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 3: third and five, you're gonna have to convert some of those. 1464 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Yep. 1465 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 3: It's the National Football League. I mean, you know, defenses 1466 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 3: get paid to play too. They're gonna You're gonna find 1467 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 3: yourself in third and four. You got to make plays, 1468 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 3: you have to convert. Uh. It just yesterday was a 1469 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 3: nightmare in every sense of the word. 1470 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 2: And the deeper you get, the more yards you need, 1471 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 2: the more you're gonna have to try to try to 1472 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 2: maybe force something, and it leads to the interception or 1473 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 2: leads to a pick. It's just nothing, nothing good happen. 1474 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 2: It's like nothing good happens staying out after midnight. Nothing 1475 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 2: good happens on third and long. Usually good analogy, too 1476 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 2: many bad days. Good analogy, take a time out and continue. 1477 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 2: We'll head down the stretch at our second of three 1478 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 2: big hours tonight. It's Bengals on the Bengals Radio Network 1479 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 2: in seven hundred w l W down the stretch we go, 1480 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 2: final segment of our second of three hours tonight, Bengals 1481 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 2: line of the Bengals Radio Network. Time to squeeze in 1482 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 2: something from outside the Bengals realm of things, and it's 1483 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 2: what has everybody buzzing around the NFL. Philip Rivers Returns 1484 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 2: at the age of forty four. He starts for the 1485 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 2: Colts yesterday, his first game in an NFL game in 1486 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 2: over eighteen hundred days, going back to twenty twenty. He 1487 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 2: led the Colts to a go ahead field goal, a 1488 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 2: sixty yarder with less than a minute to go, but 1489 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 2: then Seattle marches right back down the field and kicks 1490 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 2: a fifty six yarder to win it. But Dave still 1491 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,799 Speaker 2: hard to process that. At age forty four, Philip Rivers 1492 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 2: Returns goes eighteen to twenty six, one hundred and twenty yards, 1493 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 2: threw a touchdown a pick on the final play, kind 1494 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 2: of a desperation pass, but man when he threw the 1495 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 2: touchdown and he turned and pumped his fist and just 1496 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 2: I've thought about it all week. Forty four years old 1497 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,639 Speaker 2: and he came back and started. Just wasn't the backup 1498 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,759 Speaker 2: he started an NFL game yesterday? 1499 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 3: Incredible, it really is. And uh, you know he was 1500 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 3: coaching in high school football and his high school team 1501 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 3: was watching the game as so cool. The kids, Oh, 1502 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 3: they went crazy. I mean they almost did. Jumped through 1503 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 3: the roof. I mean they were they were vertical, man, 1504 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 3: they were skying, and uh, it's just it's an unbelievable, uh, 1505 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 3: unbelievable accomplishment for phil Philip Rivers to be able to 1506 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 3: do that. Now was what kind of football shape was 1507 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 3: he in? Obviously he was able to throw the football, 1508 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 3: probably has uh some tonnage to drop and there's no 1509 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,720 Speaker 3: question about that way. 1510 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 2: And how I must feel this morning, Oh gosh, yeah, 1511 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 2: really the first time. 1512 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And That's what I was going to say about. 1513 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 3: If I'm an offensive lineman and Philip Rivers agrees to 1514 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 3: come back at the age of forty four to help 1515 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 3: us win football games, I'm protecting him with everything that 1516 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 3: I've got, every inch of my life, man, I am. 1517 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 2: I am. 1518 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 3: If Philip Rivers gets hit and I'm responsible for it. 1519 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 3: It's my guy, my my responsibility that put a lock 1520 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 3: on Philip Rivers. I'd have a hard time going back 1521 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 3: to back to the huddle and looking at us, you know, 1522 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 3: and making eye contact. Have been filing my bad. I'm sorry, man. 1523 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 3: You know it won't happen again. That is that's that's 1524 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 3: a tremendous NFL story. 1525 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,680 Speaker 2: And I always I look for context and perspective. When 1526 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 2: I thought of this, it blew me away. Philip Rivers 1527 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 2: was taken fourth overall in the two thousand and four drafts. 1528 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 2: How long ago was that The Bengals first round pick 1529 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 2: that year was Chris Perry. I'll think about that, the 1530 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,759 Speaker 2: Michigan running back. That's how long ago Philip Rivers was drafted. 1531 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 2: The look on Yid's face says it all. Yes, two 1532 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 2: thousand and four, Chris Perry, the Bengals, and Philip Rivers 1533 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,639 Speaker 2: at forty four was back on the football field slinging 1534 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 2: the football yesterday. 1535 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 3: That puts it all in contest. 1536 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 2: And the final note to end the hour, the sad 1537 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 2: news out of Kansas City, man Patrick Mahomes tears acl 1538 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 2: done for this season. They say it might bleed into 1539 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 2: into next season. What an and the Chiefs get eliminated yesterday? 1540 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 2: What What a weird dynamic in the NFL to think 1541 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 2: that the Bengals and Joe Burrow aren't going to be 1542 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, The Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes aren't going 1543 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 2: to be in the playoffs. It's it's not h It's 1544 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 2: not the way it has been. No, it's it's different. 1545 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 2: It's uh. 1546 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 3: And Jerry Jones upset too. The Cowboys and Michael Parsons 1547 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 3: aren't they all are the in the playoffs with his 1548 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 3: a cl injury. So a lot of a lot of 1549 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 3: difficult injuries. Uh, yesterday over the weekend. No National Football League. 1550 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,400 Speaker 2: No question. That's two in the books. Let's get to 1551 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 2: our third hour. We'll hear from more from Zach, more 1552 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,680 Speaker 2: from Joe, and fun facts with Taj Brooks. It's all 1553 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 2: ahead Bengals one of the Bengals Radio Network and seven 1554 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,559 Speaker 2: hundred w l W. 1555 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,719 Speaker 1: This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. Pay Corps. 1556 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 1: Pay Corp is proud to be the official HR software 1557 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering ow Best Care for 1558 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 1: the Best Fans. Kettering el Official healthcare provider of US 1559 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. This is seven hundred WLW, the home of 1560 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 1: the best Bengals coverage. 1561 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 2: All right, let's get it going, let's get it underway. 1562 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Third hour, our third of three. Thanks for tagging along 1563 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 2: with us. Tonight is we've made our way through what 1564 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 2: transpired yesterday at pay Court at twenty four nothing lost 1565 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,519 Speaker 2: to the Ravens. We'll get into the Miami Dolphins this 1566 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 2: hour as well, and always time to get into this 1567 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 2: absolutely lance. 1568 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,639 Speaker 3: Everybody shop the Bengals Pro Shop find the best selection 1569 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,040 Speaker 3: of Bengals merchandise anywhere. Visit the Pro Shops seven days 1570 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,799 Speaker 3: a week, located on the north side of pay Court Stadium, 1571 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 3: or shop online at Bengals dot com. 1572 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 2: Agat twenty four to nothing, the final in a game 1573 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 2: that unfortunately eliminates the Bengals. Here is Zach at the 1574 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 2: podium meeting with the media after the game. 1575 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 4: You know, I think we had five trips, you know, 1576 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 4: to their side of the field and came by with 1577 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 4: no points. And just again that's as a point caller, 1578 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 4: that that starts with me. When you walk with no points, 1579 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 4: there's a huge amount of accountability that I got to 1580 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 4: take for that, but it was just an overall very 1581 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 4: frustrating day. I think we did some things that were 1582 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 4: very unorthodox on offense for us, you know, just penalties, 1583 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 4: silly penalties that were controllable on our end, you know, 1584 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 4: in some possessions where we had opportunites at points and 1585 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 4: didn't walk away with anything. I was was frustrating. 1586 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 9: What are your thoughts on that team's effort. 1587 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 5: Well, I thought, defensively, I saw some really good things. 1588 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 4: I mean, they pressured him, he didn't have a lot 1589 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 4: of time in the pocket with three or four sacks, 1590 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,960 Speaker 4: got a turnover, had an opportunity, had another one. I know, 1591 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,599 Speaker 4: they got in a zero beater, you know, where were 1592 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,559 Speaker 4: something we practiced, we were ready for it, and they 1593 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 4: still got us for a touchdown. So there was some 1594 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 4: held them three points in the second half. You know, 1595 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 4: this was if my memory serves correctly, So there was 1596 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 4: some some effort, you know. That's I didn't see it 1597 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 4: lack of effort. I just saw a lack of attention 1598 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 4: to detail. Maybe on offense that really showed up. That 1599 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 4: was that was disappointing for. 1600 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 16: The reason for so many drop today and how big 1601 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 16: were those drops? 1602 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was everything you know, it wasn't just drops, 1603 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 4: it was it was I think everybody involved in the offense. 1604 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 5: Has got to got to own up to that performance today. 1605 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 7: Zach Jill had a kind of a unique down demeter 1606 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,719 Speaker 7: on Wednesday. Did you notice anything different from him this week? 1607 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 18: You had a lot of condition after Pittsburgh that you 1608 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 18: guys are going to be in this until the very end. 1609 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 7: Is it stunning the fact that you're sitting here three 1610 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 7: weeks ago. 1611 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,200 Speaker 4: And it's yeah, I think it's it's frustrating to to 1612 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 4: score zero points get shut out at home. That's that's unacceptable. 1613 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 4: Never a million year is what I've seen that coming, 1614 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,439 Speaker 4: you know, But that's that's what happened today. So now 1615 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 4: we've got to look at why that happened, and we've 1616 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 4: got to accountable for it and and keep moving forward. 1617 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,000 Speaker 10: Zach, why do you think you in your group of coaches, administration, 1618 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 10: top to bottom are the right group? 1619 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 5: Yeah? I believe in everybody. I believe and every do 1620 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:56,920 Speaker 5: we got. 1621 01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 16: You're down seventeen to nothing. I believe that drive the 1622 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 16: day ended in the pick six took like eight minutes. 1623 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 16: Anything you guys could have done there to try to speed. 1624 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 4: That up, we had some personnel issues, certainly with some 1625 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,760 Speaker 4: injuries that we were trying to balance there. Moments we 1626 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 4: went tempo, moments we decided huddle and try to make 1627 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 4: sure we got points. 1628 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 5: On the board. The playoff contention sw. 1629 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's frustrating. This is a team that I thought 1630 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,640 Speaker 4: was a talented team. There's gonna have a chance to 1631 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 4: do big things this year. 1632 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 5: Very similar. Joe was Joe sharp in practice rightily? Yes, 1633 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 5: how do you feel like it? 1634 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 4: I'll let him speak to that, but I know that 1635 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 4: there's some place that he's going to want to come back. 1636 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 7: Two weeks ago. 1637 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 21: You know, you guys were able to do anything at 1638 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 21: will really against Baltimore on Thanksgiving today? 1639 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 7: Did anything surprise you that they I wouldn't say that. 1640 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,280 Speaker 4: I would say, you know it, maybe it looked easier 1641 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 4: than it really was. You know, our defense is five turnovers, 1642 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,040 Speaker 4: five to nothing. Early on, we kicked a field goals 1643 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 4: in that game when when you'd like to come away 1644 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 4: with teschdowns, they made it really hard. So we knew 1645 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 4: that that wasn't People were going to say that. You 1646 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,560 Speaker 4: know that we won how we won, and that was 1647 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,559 Speaker 4: easy for us. It wasn't as far from easy you know, 1648 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 4: we scored on two third downs in that game, touchdowns, 1649 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 4: So we knew that this game was going to be 1650 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 4: very difficult, and we put a lot of time and 1651 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 4: effort to the plan and the practice, and I got 1652 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 4: to today. 1653 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,679 Speaker 5: Film feeling really good about where we're at. 1654 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,240 Speaker 4: And again, we just I'm not going to say that 1655 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 4: there was a single area, particularly an offense, that we're 1656 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,720 Speaker 4: going to say that was that was nearly good enough. 1657 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 4: It wasn't even close to good enough anywhere, starting with me, 1658 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 4: and so that that part was frustrating. 1659 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 10: Why is complimentary football being difficult for this team to 1660 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 10: find the season? 1661 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the hard one for me to answer. 1662 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 4: It hasn't been good Enough's what's the where you'll go 1663 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 4: from here? Three games out with way to win? Just 1664 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,640 Speaker 4: just approach every single week as if we're still in it. 1665 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,640 Speaker 4: So get something to play for and that's our responsibility 1666 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:47,680 Speaker 4: and that's what we're going to continue to do. 1667 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 12: Aside from this overall, leans, what would you like to 1668 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 12: see the most as you finished off the season? 1669 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 5: Wins would be there? The one thing what did you. 1670 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 9: See from guys this week? Obviously as the playoff hom 1671 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,480 Speaker 9: was coming in, it was a big game at home. 1672 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was important to everybody. 1673 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 4: I didn't see anything, and again this is you told 1674 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 4: me our defense is gonna sack them as many times 1675 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 4: and harass them in the pocket. 1676 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,959 Speaker 5: And create a turnover and holding three points. 1677 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 4: In the second half. I'd sign up for that, you know. 1678 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 4: So again, just just wholesale as a team, we weren't 1679 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:21,640 Speaker 4: good enough to do. 1680 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,679 Speaker 10: Are going to want to obviously see some changes over 1681 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 10: the next three weeks or. 1682 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,519 Speaker 5: So, giving them to vote for twenty twenty six. What 1683 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 5: is your message to the fans? 1684 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,880 Speaker 4: Just hang with us. It's been frustrating. We're still portant 1685 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 4: our heart and soul to this thing and find a 1686 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,400 Speaker 4: way to win. And it's it's been a frustrating season. 1687 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 4: Understand that. 1688 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 6: Just a follow up on that. I know you're just 1689 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,880 Speaker 6: looking at this game, but looking big picture of three 1690 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 6: years of not making the playoffs. What would you like 1691 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 6: to say to the fans that give them a vote 1692 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 6: of confidence that you guys can get this right and 1693 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 6: they won't be feeling like this. 1694 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1695 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 5: I've got great confidence. I mean, we come to work 1696 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 5: every single day. 1697 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:56,960 Speaker 4: I believe in the guys we got in this locker room, 1698 01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 4: coaches and players and frustrating. 1699 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,519 Speaker 5: Frustrating season so far. We still got a couple of 1700 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 5: games left. 1701 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 4: Zachlow session tough that we just ended in a pick six, 1702 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 4: didn't get Flaco any time to warm up, and zero 1703 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 4: degree temperature basically, so try to manage it. Just hand 1704 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 4: the ball off their quick game things that would keep 1705 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 4: them out of harm way. 1706 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 5: Obviously tough spot to be in. 1707 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 4: I say, if it was anything other than zero degrees, 1708 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 4: we probably would have quickly made the change and forego 1709 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 4: them warm up. But again, just tried to as we 1710 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 4: called it, kept them out of harm's way with just 1711 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,479 Speaker 4: any throw we made the boss coming out quick. 1712 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 21: Now that they are officially eliminated, how do you keep 1713 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 21: players heads in it for the last three weeks to 1714 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 21: keep going every day. 1715 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,719 Speaker 4: They're professionals, you know, And that's that's why you build 1716 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,080 Speaker 4: the locker room the way you do it, so that 1717 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:46,720 Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about guys like that. You know, 1718 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 4: guys that they know how important this is not only 1719 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 4: for themselves in their career, but for all the work 1720 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 4: this team has put in and through good times and bad, 1721 01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,800 Speaker 4: go out there and put your best for four And 1722 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 4: I absolutely trust that these guys will do that. 1723 01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,960 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor on the loss yesterday and what it means 1724 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 2: going forward in the question, everybody's wondering, how what does 1725 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,680 Speaker 2: it mean the final three? What do you do with 1726 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 2: the final three? I would think there's a lot of 1727 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 2: guys in this roster who should be thinking, I need 1728 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 2: to put something productive, and iye popping on this tape. 1729 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 2: In my best interest, I better show them something in 1730 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,559 Speaker 2: the three games left. 1731 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 3: Bingo Lance, Absolutely, I mean I hope these players are 1732 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,760 Speaker 3: thinking along the lines that you are right now, Miami, Arizona, Cleveland. 1733 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 3: Three more opportunities to show your stuff. And you know, 1734 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,759 Speaker 3: I guess everybody, all the fans and coaches too, could say, 1735 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 3: what's taking you so long? Why did you wait for 1736 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 3: three games left in the season to show what you're 1737 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 3: capable of? You know, you get paid all season long 1738 01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,599 Speaker 3: to give us your best performance. Why haven't you given 1739 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 3: us your best performance? Why haven't you prepared yourself on 1740 01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,120 Speaker 3: a weekly basis to give us your best performance? But 1741 01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,120 Speaker 3: better late than never, I guess, so you better to 1742 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 3: show up. If you don't show up, we're gonna move on. 1743 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:03,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 1744 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 3: You know we can play football in National Football League 1745 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 3: without you. You know you're not. You're not a multiple 1746 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 3: time Pro Bowl You're not. You're not a guy that 1747 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 3: we're hanging our hat on and have to have. So 1748 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,839 Speaker 3: I'm telling you these last three weeks gonna be important 1749 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 3: for a lot of a lot of young players, not 1750 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 3: just with the Bengals, with everybody in the league. 1751 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, as you were saying that, the words of Marvin 1752 01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Lewis resonate in my head. Do your job be a pro? 1753 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,439 Speaker 2: And man, if i'm whether it's coaches on this staff 1754 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 2: or I'm coaches or front office on another team, maybe 1755 01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,559 Speaker 2: there's a Bengal who's a free agent potentially, I know, 1756 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 2: darn well. If I'm evaluating a Bengal, I'm going back 1757 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 2: and looking at these final three games to see how 1758 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 2: did they play when the season was over. Did they 1759 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,559 Speaker 2: pack it in, did they have the car running to 1760 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,000 Speaker 2: warm up the car for the offseason? How did they 1761 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 2: look when when they didn't maybe have the the incentive 1762 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 2: of a playoff chasing them? Because that's an evaluation point 1763 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 2: for me. If I'm looking at players, how do they 1764 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:01,559 Speaker 2: play these last three weeks? 1765 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? Because not every team in the NFL is going 1766 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. Yeah, you know, there's gonna be 1767 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 3: some teams that aren't. And if you're on that football team, 1768 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 3: you're expected to still give effort. I mean, they're selling 1769 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,559 Speaker 3: tickets to the games, they're taking fans money, uh to 1770 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,759 Speaker 3: to watch you play football. Give them a fair shake. 1771 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,639 Speaker 3: Go out there and and and play like you can play. 1772 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 3: You know, I'm wondering too. Sometimes you know a guy 1773 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,360 Speaker 3: doesn't play well at an organization because you know there's 1774 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 3: they're what they've decided to do offensively or defensively didn't 1775 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,639 Speaker 3: necessarily fit that skill set that player has. Maybe another 1776 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 3: team in the league has uh some sort of a 1777 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 3: defensive or offensive schematic that fits better. You better show 1778 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,080 Speaker 3: up and play and show that you could benefit by 1779 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 3: them taking you on that football team. You know, uh, 1780 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 3: keep your keep your career alive. It's a lot of money, man, 1781 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 3: a lot of money's at stake. 1782 01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 2: Still ahead. More from Jill Burrow on yesterday, and the 1783 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 2: conversation continues through our third hour of Bengals Lot of 1784 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW Well then 1785 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 2: right along through all Monday night talking Bengals football on 1786 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,520 Speaker 2: the show we call Bengals Love Bengals or Radio Network. 1787 01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,599 Speaker 3: And Hey Bengals fans on Fridays, make sure to listen 1788 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 3: to myself and Dan Horde from Bengals pep Rally presented 1789 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,680 Speaker 3: by Just Bear Chicken on the air from three to 1790 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 3: six pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1791 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 2: We heard from Zach Taylor after the game yesterday. Let's 1792 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 2: hear a little bit more from QB one on a 1793 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 2: rough day. Here is Joe Burrow. 1794 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,360 Speaker 7: Joe, today was the offense. 1795 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 5: Other games it's been the defense. 1796 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,760 Speaker 13: Why has complimentary football been so hard for this team 1797 01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 13: to find this year? 1798 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,919 Speaker 7: We haven't been a good football team. You know bad football. 1799 01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,639 Speaker 7: Bad football teams do losing things, and. 1800 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 8: You know, if you're wanting to compete for championships and 1801 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:03,639 Speaker 8: in the playoffs, then. 1802 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 7: Number one, your quarterback has to play better than I 1803 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 7: did today. How far does that gap feel right now? 1804 01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 8: Chill between this team and what's expected of the championship level. 1805 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 7: Not that far, not that far. 1806 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 5: This is the worst you felt after loss. 1807 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 7: Probably losing losing socks. 1808 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,679 Speaker 6: I know you're taking a lot of responsibility for today's game, 1809 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 6: but one of the main things that has come out 1810 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,559 Speaker 6: of this season is how much is on your plate 1811 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,320 Speaker 6: and the record when you were out when you were 1812 01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 6: out and last week's perfect example the turnovers, you guys 1813 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 6: lose the game. Do you feel like there's too much 1814 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,599 Speaker 6: weight on you where it feels like if you're not perfect, 1815 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,479 Speaker 6: the team is good enough around you to pick you up. 1816 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,320 Speaker 7: You know, I want everything on my plate. 1817 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,439 Speaker 8: I want That's a position I want to be in, 1818 01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,759 Speaker 8: and you know, I feel confident all those guys locker room, 1819 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:06,120 Speaker 8: Like I said today, nobody there's not a team in 1820 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,799 Speaker 8: the NFL that would have won. 1821 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 7: The game today if if I was the quarterbacks. 1822 01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 10: Teams record is headed in the wrong direction. Do you 1823 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 10: think your play is slipping down the slope in the 1824 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,600 Speaker 10: wrong direction over the last couple of years? 1825 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 8: You know, I feel very confident in how I played 1826 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 8: obviously today in my opinion, is an outliar. I think 1827 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,439 Speaker 8: I've been consistently great for. 1828 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,719 Speaker 7: Years and years and years. Did they change up its 1829 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:38,559 Speaker 7: all from thanks Giving? The really different that way? Maybe 1830 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:39,559 Speaker 7: don't think it's giving. 1831 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 8: I said they blitzed, They blitzed less. Their front four 1832 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 8: was able to get a little more pressure, So credit 1833 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 8: to them. 1834 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,679 Speaker 12: What kind of on that first act the fifty yard 1835 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 12: on the third down going there in what kind of 1836 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 12: happened there? 1837 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,679 Speaker 5: Ye, Is it the same thing on the pick six? 1838 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 3: Is that kind of it? 1839 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 12: It looks like it was a similar pressure that they 1840 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 12: had on the gap. 1841 01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 2: Was that the same or now I have. 1842 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 7: To see the film on that one. 1843 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,080 Speaker 12: We'll see what This is the hardest I think you've 1844 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,679 Speaker 12: ever been on yourself after a game. 1845 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,519 Speaker 8: Why even I think this is one of the worst 1846 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 8: games that I've I've played. 1847 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 7: You know, I'm honest with myself. 1848 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 8: And my play, and I hold myself to high standard 1849 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 8: and today didn't come close. 1850 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 21: Joe, with playoffs off the table as a competitor, how 1851 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 21: tough will it be now to read mindset and kind 1852 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,960 Speaker 21: of get yourself back into winding win again? 1853 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,960 Speaker 9: You mentioned the mental mistake on the sack when you 1854 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,800 Speaker 9: guys the first draft of the game was that. 1855 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:45,200 Speaker 7: I made the wrong call. 1856 01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 2: Joe after the game and Dave, we were talking earlier 1857 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 2: about Joe addressing the team, and in a comment from 1858 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 2: Jordan's Battles jumped out to me Jordan's set up, Joe. 1859 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,600 Speaker 2: What Joe said after the game resonates with us. That 1860 01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 2: should determine our attitude going into these next few games 1861 01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 2: and for the rest of the season. It sends a 1862 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 2: huge message. It shows who he is as a person. 1863 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,639 Speaker 2: Maybe he can come off as arrogant to people who 1864 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,840 Speaker 2: don't know him, He's really one of the most humble 1865 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,840 Speaker 2: guys I've ever met, especially with the status he has 1866 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,599 Speaker 2: and the player he is. When he speaks up to 1867 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 2: the team, we hear it and it's like that old E. F. 1868 01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 2: Hutton commercial Weddingy Hutton, people listen, that's Joe Burrow. 1869 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, he is the unquestioned leader of the 1870 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 3: football team, and in most instances, the quarterback usually is. 1871 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 3: There are some rare exceptions to the rule, but there 1872 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 3: aren't that many. And as the quarterback goes, so the 1873 01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,479 Speaker 3: team goes. You know, if the quarterback has got something 1874 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 3: going on off the football field that is affecting him, 1875 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,160 Speaker 3: the whole team feels it. Joe Burrow said he does 1876 01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,559 Speaker 3: have some personal issues that he's dealing with and it's 1877 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 3: not related to the football team, not related to the 1878 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals organization, and he's working his way through it. 1879 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 3: All I can say is having been part of this 1880 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 3: organization for ten years as a player. In forty in 1881 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 3: the broadcast booth, two guys that come to mind, Boomer 1882 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 3: Sison leader, Boomer Sison, when things weren't going well, he 1883 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 3: grabbed the team by the collective throat and said, hey, 1884 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,240 Speaker 3: let this is unacceptable. This, this just isn't gonna happen. 1885 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,559 Speaker 3: We're not gonna We're not gonna tank our season like this. 1886 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 3: Kenny Anderson same way. Kenny would be very very honest 1887 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,120 Speaker 3: in his in his comments and addressing the football team. 1888 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,680 Speaker 3: And these guys obviously play at a high level, their 1889 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,639 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl players. You know, guys emulate, want to emulate 1890 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 3: what they are and how important they are the community 1891 01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,640 Speaker 3: and the football team. And they're listening. They listen to 1892 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 3: those guys. So, like you said, Ef Hutton, when when 1893 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:53,200 Speaker 3: Boomer Sison or when Kenny Anderson speaks, people perk up 1894 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,080 Speaker 3: and people listen. 1895 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,320 Speaker 2: And if there was one player on this team, if 1896 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,720 Speaker 2: you were asking me to bet on how somebody respawns, 1897 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,559 Speaker 2: I would place my chip on Joe Burrow. Probably not 1898 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 2: sleeping much last night, probably seething a little bit. Yeah, 1899 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,400 Speaker 2: your classics see the game unful on your on your 1900 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,920 Speaker 2: bedroom ceiling. Yeah, because when when Joe says publicly it 1901 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,800 Speaker 2: was a mental mistake by me, that's the stuff that 1902 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 2: just has to grade at him and drive him to 1903 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,400 Speaker 2: next week. What would it really surprise anybody if Joe 1904 01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,320 Speaker 2: next week went out and dropped like a twenty seven 1905 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,120 Speaker 2: of thirty one for three hundred and ninety six yards, 1906 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,160 Speaker 2: four touchdowns, no interceptions. It would not. 1907 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 3: Wouldn't surprise on your lick, It really wouldn't. I mean, 1908 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 3: I think, you know the great ones, that's the that's 1909 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 3: how they respond, That's how they respond to adversity. Uh, 1910 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 3: they respond by going out and having one of the 1911 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,320 Speaker 3: best games of their of their career. And Joe Burrow 1912 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,519 Speaker 3: is a great one. You know, Joe Burrow is a 1913 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,479 Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer. He's uh, he's one of one. 1914 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,680 Speaker 3: They broke the mold and uh, you know he's I 1915 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,120 Speaker 3: think he's got the last three football games of the season. 1916 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,320 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna put up stupid numbers. I think 1917 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 3: people are gonna be like, what are you kidding me? 1918 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,800 Speaker 3: What did he do to close the season out? I 1919 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,519 Speaker 3: think he's capable and I think he'll do it. 1920 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,240 Speaker 2: All Right, we're rolling through this third hour. We'll do 1921 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 2: fun facts, fantastic fun facts with Dan Horde coming up. Well, 1922 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,519 Speaker 2: so take a look at the Miami Dolphins. It's all 1923 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,680 Speaker 2: Ahead on Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and 1924 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:25,639 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Hey welcome back into a Monday night 1925 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 2: of conversation about all things related to the Bengals. We 1926 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,559 Speaker 2: do it for three hours each week. We do it 1927 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,240 Speaker 2: on Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network and seven 1928 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,160 Speaker 2: hundred WLW. 1929 01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,240 Speaker 3: And Lance as we know, Alta Fibers the official Wi 1930 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,720 Speaker 3: Fi and Internet provider of the Bengals in Greater Cincinnati's 1931 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,040 Speaker 3: fastest Internet with up to two gig symmetrical speeds. 1932 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,720 Speaker 2: Each week, we love to take a listen to what 1933 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,680 Speaker 2: Dan Horr does with Fantastic Fun Facts. It's a sit 1934 01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,479 Speaker 2: down conversation with a member of the organization, kind of 1935 01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:54,559 Speaker 2: a chance to pull back the curtain and learn more 1936 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,000 Speaker 2: about the player more along the lines of the person 1937 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,880 Speaker 2: behind inside that helmet. This week it is Taj Brooks, 1938 01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,440 Speaker 2: the Bengals rookie running back. Here's Dan Horde and Fantastic 1939 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 2: fun Facts. 1940 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,559 Speaker 1: No Fantastic fun Facts with. 1941 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 13: Dan ord tied for some fun facts with running Back. 1942 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,360 Speaker 13: Taj Brooks, from Manor, Texas, not far from the capital 1943 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:22,240 Speaker 13: city of Austin, describe growing up in Manor and some 1944 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,040 Speaker 13: of the things you enjoyed doing when you were young. 1945 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,439 Speaker 24: Oh man, the thing I did the most was just 1946 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,720 Speaker 24: play football, went to school, and then you don't hung 1947 01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:33,679 Speaker 24: out with friends. That was really just the most part. 1948 01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 24: And you know, I was kind of kind of a 1949 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,000 Speaker 24: country boy at that time too. You know, it was 1950 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 24: Maynor back back in high school. It was a kind 1951 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 24: of a little suburb. Now it's a lot of a 1952 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,040 Speaker 24: lot of things growing out there, so but it was 1953 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,600 Speaker 24: more country when I was out there, when I was 1954 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,200 Speaker 24: growing up and stuff, So it was fun. 1955 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 13: I read somewhere that you rode horses growing up. Was 1956 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,519 Speaker 13: that the case? And it's still the case. 1957 01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,640 Speaker 24: It's a little bit kind of the case now, but 1958 01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,519 Speaker 24: I try to get not too much. But yeah, I 1959 01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,880 Speaker 24: grew up. I rode a little bit of horses. It 1960 01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:02,320 Speaker 24: was just when I was little. My aunt shout out 1961 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,320 Speaker 24: to her. She kind of, you know, just instilled in 1962 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,360 Speaker 24: me just just to do it for fun. And it's 1963 01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 24: been it's been great ever since. But it's crazy. 1964 01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 11: It's just I kind of had like a little reaction. 1965 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,799 Speaker 24: To like one of like the horse little blanket sheets, 1966 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 24: and you know, I always I loved animals when I 1967 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,519 Speaker 24: was little. I want to be like a vision I 1968 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:22,479 Speaker 24: guess a vegetarian, not a vegetarian veninarian, Excuse me. It 1969 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,280 Speaker 24: was just I love watching like the incredible Doctor Poe 1970 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:26,800 Speaker 24: shows and things like that, so I just want to 1971 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,640 Speaker 24: see like just the way of living over horse and 1972 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,160 Speaker 24: things like that. But it was that's just something that 1973 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:32,800 Speaker 24: I cherished the most when I was growing up. 1974 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,200 Speaker 13: Tys. You had an exceptional high school football career, running 1975 01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:39,000 Speaker 13: for more than four thousand yards. When did it start 1976 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 13: to become clear that the other kids either couldn't catch 1977 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:43,680 Speaker 13: you or tackle you? 1978 01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,479 Speaker 24: Really, I want to say a little league? And then 1979 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,599 Speaker 24: going into my ninth grade year, that was my first year. 1980 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,400 Speaker 24: I was a fresh ninth grade and you really don't 1981 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,000 Speaker 24: see that happening in a lot of places and that 1982 01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 24: kind of jectory of football. And I'm very thankful for 1983 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,160 Speaker 24: the coach that that gave me the opportunity. 1984 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,920 Speaker 13: Mayner isn't far from the University of Texas. I've read 1985 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,360 Speaker 13: that the Longhorns did not recruit you. Was that the case, 1986 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:08,760 Speaker 13: and if so, was it disappointing? 1987 01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,000 Speaker 24: It wasn't disappointing, But they recruited me a little bit. 1988 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,840 Speaker 24: They kind of wanted me. It was back in twenty yeah, 1989 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,559 Speaker 24: back in twenty twenty when it's kind of the COVID 1990 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,280 Speaker 24: era and they had a guy, which is he's in 1991 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 24: the league actually right now, so kudos and him and 1992 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 24: things like that, but they had a guy, and I 1993 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,840 Speaker 24: feel like text tech was the best for me, coach 1994 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,920 Speaker 24: Matt Wells. I got recruited by him, and man, he 1995 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,439 Speaker 24: changed my life forever. And then just the inductive of 1996 01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 24: just Joey McGuire, just the things that he built there 1997 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:37,599 Speaker 24: has been great. 1998 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,519 Speaker 11: So I'm glad I'm a text take raider. 1999 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,760 Speaker 13: You initially committed to Tulsa largely because of an assistant 2000 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,000 Speaker 13: coach named Justin Hill, who is your running backs coach 2001 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,840 Speaker 13: now with the Cincinnati Bengals. Described that relationship going back 2002 01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:52,679 Speaker 13: to the tenth grade. 2003 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 24: It was it was a great relationship. It's still great 2004 01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:56,880 Speaker 24: to this day. You know, the Jay Hill he does 2005 01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,160 Speaker 24: a great job with just the coach aspect and then 2006 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,360 Speaker 24: just just being a teacher, uh, a great guy you 2007 01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 24: can learn from. And then just off the field, a 2008 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,920 Speaker 24: great uh, A great family man, a great uh somebody 2009 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,720 Speaker 24: you wanna be like, uh when when you wanna grow 2010 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,800 Speaker 24: up and things like that. But uh, the relationship is 2011 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:12,880 Speaker 24: has been there Uh, I wanna say it, since my 2012 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,760 Speaker 24: freshman year I committed to him and and uh that 2013 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,080 Speaker 24: program and it was great. And then uh, he got 2014 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,360 Speaker 24: the job here, and I knew, Uh, I knew I 2015 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:21,439 Speaker 24: was kind of gonna be back. 2016 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,400 Speaker 11: Uh, not as a Cincinnati being. 2017 01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:24,600 Speaker 24: I thought I know I was gonna be back in 2018 01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 24: the ropes cause uh I texted him one year, I guess, Uh, 2019 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 24: I guess, congrats, I'm going to the super Bowl. And 2020 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,680 Speaker 24: he text me back, He's like, thank you, man. So 2021 01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,040 Speaker 24: it was just a good, good seeing out of eye. 2022 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,080 Speaker 24: And then shoot, I got blessed and I got jobbed here, 2023 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:35,840 Speaker 24: So it all. 2024 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 11: Came for full like a full circle. So it's cool. 2025 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 13: We're visiting with TODJ. Brooks. You ultimately chose to play 2026 01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,560 Speaker 13: at Texas Tech. As you mentioned you're gonna be in 2027 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,599 Speaker 13: their Hall of Fame someday you're their all time leading rusher. 2028 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 13: What did you enjoy most about your five years there? 2029 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,320 Speaker 11: Man, It wasn't breaking the records or anything. 2030 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,400 Speaker 24: It was just the I want to say, my teammates, 2031 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,519 Speaker 24: the guys that I met there, the guys that I 2032 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:57,040 Speaker 24: came in. 2033 01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,840 Speaker 11: With, uh we built Uh those. 2034 01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,560 Speaker 24: Are my brothers for life, and that was probably like 2035 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,840 Speaker 24: one of the biggest things that I that I missed 2036 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,599 Speaker 24: about college and things like that. But besides the accolades 2037 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,000 Speaker 24: that I've broken things, but those that's probably the most 2038 01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:09,679 Speaker 24: important ones. 2039 01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,280 Speaker 13: In addition to your on the field success, you excelled 2040 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,040 Speaker 13: in the classroom. You were nominated for the Campbell Award 2041 01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 13: last year, which is known as the Academic Heights Been Trophy. 2042 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,480 Speaker 13: Did your folks put a big emphasis on the classroom 2043 01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:23,280 Speaker 13: For sure. 2044 01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,639 Speaker 24: My mom and my dad, they pushed me academically as 2045 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,479 Speaker 24: well as on the field. You want to be the 2046 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,360 Speaker 24: best person in the brain before you get outside and 2047 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,360 Speaker 24: get on the field, you know. So that's just it's 2048 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,840 Speaker 24: been instilled to me at a young age. My Grandma's 2049 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,639 Speaker 24: also instilled in me just you got to you gotta 2050 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 24: be a student before you be an athlete. So just 2051 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,240 Speaker 24: learning different ways just to get better with your brain. 2052 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,000 Speaker 24: That's just something I always honored as and you know, 2053 01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,120 Speaker 24: just want to just expand my knowledge more. 2054 01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,680 Speaker 13: The Bengals selected you in the sixth round of this 2055 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,320 Speaker 13: year's draft. Describe that day leading up to getting the 2056 01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:54,559 Speaker 13: phone call from Zach Taylor. 2057 01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:56,960 Speaker 24: First and foremost, it was just it was a blessing 2058 01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,679 Speaker 24: I can't think enough to the man above. The Bagels 2059 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,320 Speaker 24: got a great guy, a great a great person that's 2060 01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,040 Speaker 24: gonna come in and impact the way that he can 2061 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,000 Speaker 24: if any opportunity that he gets. 2062 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:08,759 Speaker 11: But nah, that that day was amazing. 2063 01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 24: I talked to Zach, I talked to Jay Hill, and 2064 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,360 Speaker 24: then shoot, after that, it was it was ready to work. 2065 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:13,400 Speaker 23: You know. 2066 01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 24: They Nothing wasn't handed, nothing wasn't given. It was just 2067 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,680 Speaker 24: come in, learn and just be uh, whenever opportunity for 2068 01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,479 Speaker 24: this herself, be ready for the opportunity. And I can't wait. 2069 01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:27,360 Speaker 13: This was a crazy deep draft for running backs. I'm 2070 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,599 Speaker 13: thinking in a normal year you would have gone several 2071 01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:31,800 Speaker 13: rounds earlier. How did that affect you? 2072 01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,559 Speaker 11: I really didn't. Uh, it really didn't affect me. 2073 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,719 Speaker 24: I have I have a great team, great agent within 2074 01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:39,240 Speaker 24: that well and things like that. 2075 01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,679 Speaker 11: So they kept me. Uh he kept me, truly honest. 2076 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,519 Speaker 24: He's like, man, I feel like you were one of 2077 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,559 Speaker 24: the top backs in this class, and you know your 2078 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,000 Speaker 24: film proves it. You can take and catch the ball 2079 01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,120 Speaker 24: great out the backfield, and you know run the ball. 2080 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,120 Speaker 24: That's nothing, and Whitey can't question me question you about that. 2081 01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,200 Speaker 24: So man, that's just it was deep, but I feel 2082 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,320 Speaker 24: like I separated myself just off pass protection and then 2083 01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:58,960 Speaker 24: catching the ball. 2084 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,679 Speaker 11: Where we're at the field. 2085 01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,880 Speaker 13: Were the guys draft before you? Where you said yourself, Man, 2086 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,040 Speaker 13: that guy is good, but I know I'm better than 2087 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:06,400 Speaker 13: he is. 2088 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 24: For sure, you know, just the competitor in me just 2089 01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,160 Speaker 24: saying that, and then just you know, on draft day 2090 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,840 Speaker 24: I kind of wrote and thought about every guy that 2091 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,360 Speaker 24: went before me, so not saying when we played him, 2092 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,320 Speaker 24: I I just wanna, you know, be the whenever I 2093 01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:17,639 Speaker 24: get my. 2094 01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,200 Speaker 11: Opportunity to be the best back on the field and 2095 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:20,840 Speaker 11: things like that. So I just can't wait for that 2096 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:21,320 Speaker 11: to happen. 2097 01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,280 Speaker 13: All right. Some wild card topics now for Bengals running 2098 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 13: back Taj Brooks. Who is your all time favorite athlete 2099 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,000 Speaker 13: in any sport? 2100 01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:34,479 Speaker 11: And why I gotta be one or just one? 2101 01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 13: You can pick several if you'd like. 2102 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:39,559 Speaker 24: All Right, man, it's tough. I'm gonna go Kobe just 2103 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 24: because the mama mentality. I'm gonna go ray Lewis, just 2104 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,600 Speaker 24: because a guy that's gonna come to work each and 2105 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 24: every day and give it his all, and someone that's 2106 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,439 Speaker 24: that's gonna embrace you and you know, makes you want 2107 01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:51,960 Speaker 24: to do things that you want to that you don't 2108 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:52,880 Speaker 24: want to do, but you're doing. 2109 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:54,840 Speaker 11: And then my last. 2110 01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:59,320 Speaker 24: One is probably Barry Sanders, just a guy that's just 2111 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,840 Speaker 24: very consistent as being playing a running back, being at 2112 01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,240 Speaker 24: the plane at the highest level and doing the great 2113 01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,040 Speaker 24: things that he did in the NFL. Man, it's just 2114 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,120 Speaker 24: you always want to put yourself in that role and 2115 01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,400 Speaker 24: just want to see yourself doing those great things that 2116 01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:11,800 Speaker 24: he did. 2117 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:15,280 Speaker 13: So Barry Sanders was before your time. Have you watched 2118 01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:16,639 Speaker 13: a lot of the clips on YouTube? 2119 01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:16,840 Speaker 14: Oh? 2120 01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,920 Speaker 24: For sure, I watch him. Then you know the Madden 2121 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,599 Speaker 24: You know, I play Madden a lot, so I'm always 2122 01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,639 Speaker 24: using him. Walter Payton, you know, just Marshall falk Man, 2123 01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:27,080 Speaker 24: you can go a list goes down. 2124 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:27,320 Speaker 16: Man. 2125 01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,559 Speaker 24: What I kind of watch those guys on YouTube and 2126 01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,599 Speaker 24: just you know, going what they did in the NFL 2127 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,759 Speaker 24: and just try to see how my game can imprint 2128 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,400 Speaker 24: and how I can take things from their game. 2129 01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,120 Speaker 13: So we're visiting the taj Brooks. For the last three years, 2130 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:41,120 Speaker 13: you put on a free football clinic back home for kids. 2131 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,160 Speaker 13: More than three hundred attended this past year. Why do 2132 01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:44,680 Speaker 13: you do that? 2133 01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,000 Speaker 24: I do it just it's a blessing first and foremost 2134 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,200 Speaker 24: for the kids, and you know, just so it's been, 2135 01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,559 Speaker 24: it's free. It's something that I love, you know, giving 2136 01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:54,760 Speaker 24: back to my community, giving back to where I came from. 2137 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,519 Speaker 24: And you know, you always want to get back to 2138 01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,080 Speaker 24: your hometown because they're going to support you no matter what, 2139 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,640 Speaker 24: no matter if you're in no matter if you're you know, 2140 01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:03,479 Speaker 24: a college coach some day, and no matter whatever you're doing, 2141 01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,439 Speaker 24: they're gonna always support you. And I always want to 2142 01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,559 Speaker 24: give my support back to to my high schools and 2143 01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:08,120 Speaker 24: things like that. 2144 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,000 Speaker 13: We know you're a good running back, we know you're 2145 01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,080 Speaker 13: a good student. You rode horses as a kid. But 2146 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:15,840 Speaker 13: where do you allow to at? 2147 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:16,360 Speaker 17: Uh? 2148 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,080 Speaker 11: To be honest, I'm not a good singer. I will 2149 01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:20,320 Speaker 11: not I sing. 2150 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,080 Speaker 24: I sing to myself sometimes, but it's just myself and 2151 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:24,160 Speaker 24: probably my girlfriend. 2152 01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:27,000 Speaker 11: But besides that, I'm not a great singer at all. 2153 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:27,960 Speaker 11: That's probably the one. 2154 01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 13: What do you like to splur? John Man? 2155 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,519 Speaker 24: I don't know because I haven't. Man, I'm not I'm 2156 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,400 Speaker 24: a big I'm not a big spender. It's just it 2157 01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 24: depends like I kind of left my big spending probably 2158 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,439 Speaker 24: in my college days, but now it's just more of 2159 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,360 Speaker 24: just I don't know, man, it's I don't really splares 2160 01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,880 Speaker 24: a lot. Second contract, probably buy a home back home, 2161 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,120 Speaker 24: you know, buy a home, get something set up off 2162 01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,880 Speaker 24: of the off season, and you know, get something going 2163 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,040 Speaker 24: with the off season, things like that. 2164 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:57,519 Speaker 11: So just buy a home and things like that. 2165 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,400 Speaker 13: All right. Final fun fact for Taj Brooks. This one's 2166 01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:04,479 Speaker 13: a little bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history, 2167 01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,880 Speaker 13: living or deceased, who would that person be? 2168 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,639 Speaker 24: I want to say one is Nipsey Hustle. Nipsey Hustle, 2169 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,800 Speaker 24: excuse me, just the way how powerful he is with 2170 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,240 Speaker 24: his voice and the way he carried on his life 2171 01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 24: and his legacy. And then two probably my brother Charlie Man. 2172 01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,679 Speaker 24: Just to talk to him, see how he doing up there. 2173 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,280 Speaker 24: He passed away in twenty nineteen during a gun violence accident, 2174 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 24: So just meet him and just top it up with him. 2175 01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,360 Speaker 11: That would probably be my two. Like most coming back 2176 01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 11: and just topping it up, So that probably be my 2177 01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:36,120 Speaker 11: things right there. 2178 01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:38,320 Speaker 13: Taj, appreciate your time, best off like the rest of 2179 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:38,599 Speaker 13: the year. 2180 01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,880 Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, thank you, Taj Brooks. This week in the 2181 01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:44,960 Speaker 2: Spotlight for fantastic fun facts. More of that with the 2182 01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,439 Speaker 2: Bengals Booth Podcast. Check it out where you get your podcast. 2183 01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:49,920 Speaker 2: And you know, we were talking earlier about the final 2184 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,320 Speaker 2: three games and opportunities. Taj Brooks had four kick returns yesterday. 2185 01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:56,040 Speaker 2: We don't we hope Samaj p Ryan's okay this week 2186 01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,559 Speaker 2: after he was dinged up. But any opportunity for somebody 2187 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,600 Speaker 2: like a time Brooks, whether it's kick returns or a 2188 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,360 Speaker 2: couple of carries, that's important for him over the final 2189 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:05,320 Speaker 2: three games of the season. 2190 01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 3: It is it is. You know, you're there's always a 2191 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,479 Speaker 3: valuation going on, you know, and in position coaches are 2192 01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,679 Speaker 3: taking a look at their players and okay, are they 2193 01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,600 Speaker 3: are they? Is there a play worthy of getting more opportunity? 2194 01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,200 Speaker 3: Should we give them more snaps? 2195 01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 2: Now? 2196 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,040 Speaker 3: They are only three games left. But if if he 2197 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,559 Speaker 3: were to say, you know, uh, light it up against 2198 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,679 Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins and give him more opportunity, see see 2199 01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,559 Speaker 3: what he does. See see how he he handles maybe 2200 01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:36,080 Speaker 3: a little bit more burden of responsibility against Arizona and Cleveland, 2201 01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:37,800 Speaker 3: to see how he responds. 2202 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,960 Speaker 2: Still ahead, those Miami Dolphins will put them in the 2203 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,920 Speaker 2: spotlight as we head down the stretch. Bengals Line, Bengals 2204 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:55,760 Speaker 2: Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. We continue on in 2205 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:59,320 Speaker 2: this Monday Night Bengals Line. Bengals Radio Network and seven 2206 01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:03,559 Speaker 2: hundred w W. I am Lance McCalister. He is Dave Lapham. 2207 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,960 Speaker 3: Yes, Sir Lance in pay Corp is proud to be 2208 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:09,759 Speaker 3: the official HR software provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. 2209 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,880 Speaker 2: Next up, those Miami Dolphins. They are six and seven. 2210 01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:16,200 Speaker 2: They're still in playoff contention. They are in action tonight 2211 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,559 Speaker 2: against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Monday Night Football. So a 2212 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,679 Speaker 2: short week for them in the turnaround against the Bengals. 2213 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:25,880 Speaker 2: But the Dolphins are clinging to playoff hopes, desperate playoff hopes. 2214 01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:29,320 Speaker 2: They've won four straight. Their season had gotten sideways, but 2215 01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:32,759 Speaker 2: then they reeled off a win over Buffalo thirty to thirteen. 2216 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,599 Speaker 2: They beat the Commander sixteen thirteen, They beat the Saints 2217 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,439 Speaker 2: twenty one seventeen, and they beat up the Jets last 2218 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:42,000 Speaker 2: week thirty four to ten. So four straight. They're playing football, 2219 01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:45,760 Speaker 2: and they're playing good football, and they're in desperation mode 2220 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 2: right now. 2221 01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,040 Speaker 3: Tell you the turnaround game thirty thirteen over Buffalo. We 2222 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,200 Speaker 3: know how good Buffalo can play. I mean Buffalo came 2223 01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:57,639 Speaker 3: in and I mean spanked us, really really did a number, 2224 01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:59,680 Speaker 3: did a job. That's a good football team. They have 2225 01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:02,000 Speaker 3: a hell a quarterback. They've got a lot of good 2226 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,720 Speaker 3: football players in that organization. There's no question about it. 2227 01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,000 Speaker 3: So you know, don't fall don't sleep on the Miami Dolphins. 2228 01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,720 Speaker 3: The Miami Dolphins are capable of putting together, you know, 2229 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 3: a game that like where did that come from? McDaniel 2230 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,519 Speaker 3: has done a great job because you know, other than 2231 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,040 Speaker 3: two of they don't have a whole lot of names. 2232 01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,519 Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, that guy, that guy, Oh wow. 2233 01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,599 Speaker 3: I mean, they've got a lot of good, solid football 2234 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:30,040 Speaker 3: players that understand what what McDaniel wants to do and 2235 01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 3: how he wants to get it done. And he's he's 2236 01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,439 Speaker 3: stocked him himself in the organization in that regard, and 2237 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:37,680 Speaker 3: they're playing well for him. 2238 01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you better better tackle well eight chan they're 2239 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,800 Speaker 2: they're running back is rushed for over eleven hundred yards, 2240 01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:46,080 Speaker 2: he's averaging almost five point eight yards of carry's got 2241 01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:50,120 Speaker 2: seven touchdowns, so he'll be something on the ground. And yeah, 2242 01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,320 Speaker 2: they're they're they're getting right at the right time. And again, 2243 01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:57,280 Speaker 2: desperation drives a football team and they're certainly trying to okay, 2244 01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,320 Speaker 2: and the weather will be you mentioned the weather earlier. 2245 01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:02,880 Speaker 2: I looked at up up Uh, Saturday, the high is 2246 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,240 Speaker 2: going to be in the neighborhood of eighty one degrees, 2247 01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,519 Speaker 2: maybe some early showers, but we're gonna go from ten 2248 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,879 Speaker 2: degrees yesterday to perhaps high seventies into the low eighties 2249 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,480 Speaker 2: on Sunday in Miami. Quite a contrast. 2250 01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, quite, that's dramatic, man, it really is. I mean 2251 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,760 Speaker 3: that you go from bone chilling cold to like, hey, 2252 01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,759 Speaker 3: it's gonna be sweating freely. Man, there's no question. 2253 01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:29,120 Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, you know what I just thought 2254 01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:32,160 Speaker 2: of because everything goes back to the Freezer Bowl. It 2255 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,080 Speaker 2: makes me think of when you guys played the Chargers 2256 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,599 Speaker 2: in the Freezer Bowl the week before they had beaten, 2257 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,080 Speaker 2: of all things, Miami and the and that the game 2258 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,599 Speaker 2: where Kellen Winslow is held off the field and he's 2259 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,240 Speaker 2: dehydrated and was so hot, and then the next week 2260 01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,800 Speaker 2: goes welcome to the Freezer Bowl and Cincinnati. 2261 01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah really, and uh, I guess I guess, Ah, maybe 2262 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:55,599 Speaker 3: a gauge for how how different those weather conditions were. 2263 01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 3: The Gatorade, the gatorade in Cincinnati was frozen. The gateor 2264 01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,120 Speaker 3: raade down down there in Miami was a little bit 2265 01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,439 Speaker 3: warm as you kind of swashed it around your mouth. 2266 01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,160 Speaker 2: Beautiful. I before coming in, I happened to look it 2267 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,719 Speaker 2: up and Bengals and Dolphins, And of course you played 2268 01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 2: the Dolphins a number of times and played in the 2269 01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:18,080 Speaker 2: Orange Bowl. And I'm thinking of in your first year 2270 01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 2: you had a Monday nighter there. But the coaches on 2271 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,679 Speaker 2: the sidelines. Just to think Don Shula and Paul Brown 2272 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,599 Speaker 2: really on the same field across from each other, that's 2273 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,639 Speaker 2: just iconic, Iman, that's football big time. 2274 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,880 Speaker 3: Oh and remember Don Shula played for Paul Brown with 2275 01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,439 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Brown He played in the secondary and Don 2276 01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:41,880 Speaker 3: Shula was a Paul Brown said, a very very intelligent 2277 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,519 Speaker 3: football player. Boy, that's a shock, you know, a guy 2278 01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,720 Speaker 3: that ends up going into coaching and accumulates all the 2279 01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,439 Speaker 3: wins that Don Shula accumulated. Man, there's no doubt that 2280 01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,280 Speaker 3: he was a smart football player as a player. 2281 01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:55,120 Speaker 2: Man. And I looked up and I'm sure these names 2282 01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,839 Speaker 2: will ring a bell in your days of playing the Dolphins. 2283 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:04,400 Speaker 2: A Verned, Yes, Bona Khani, Bob Bombhauer and aj Dewey. 2284 01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:06,400 Speaker 2: Guys like that. Oh, those are some names. 2285 01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:09,320 Speaker 3: Some names big time, no doubt. Aj Dewey out of it, 2286 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 3: out of LSU, Bob Bombhouer, Yeah, that that Kim Bokamper 2287 01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:20,280 Speaker 3: memories man boy. Yes. And Nick Bonakhani that little sucker. Man, 2288 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm telling you he was like five eleven and you 2289 01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,240 Speaker 3: couldn't get under his pads. I mean that sucker would 2290 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,040 Speaker 3: we would bring it went to Notre Dame and uh, 2291 01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 3: you know I hate Notre Dame, but Bonakhani was. He 2292 01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:34,960 Speaker 3: was a heck of a football player. There's no doubt. 2293 01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,760 Speaker 2: We'll head down the stretch, put the raps on it, 2294 01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,519 Speaker 2: and uh send you on your way. It's Bengals On 2295 01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,560 Speaker 2: on the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred W l W. 2296 01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,200 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Let's put the raps on it. 2297 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,920 Speaker 2: Final segment tonight of Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. 2298 01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:56,120 Speaker 3: And Bengals fans make sure to catch me and Dan 2299 01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,799 Speaker 3: Horde every Wednesday this season for Bengals Game Plan presented 2300 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,040 Speaker 3: by Bud Light on the air from six to eight 2301 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,559 Speaker 3: pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 2302 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,639 Speaker 2: By the way, along those lines, and I just thought 2303 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,080 Speaker 2: of it now, I can't remember where I've heard him. 2304 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,640 Speaker 2: You've had Sam Hubbard, And you're having Sam Hubbard this 2305 01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:15,519 Speaker 2: week again since your Wednesday Friday show Friday, somebody shows Friday. 2306 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,479 Speaker 2: How cool was it to catch up with Sam Hubbard? 2307 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:18,360 Speaker 2: Very cool? 2308 01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:23,439 Speaker 3: I mean he is uh, he is mister Ohio football, 2309 01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,960 Speaker 3: Moeler High School, Ohio State, Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, he 2310 01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:32,000 Speaker 3: is the Cincinnati kid, you know, the the rumble fumble 2311 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,320 Speaker 3: I should say, in the Jungle, a moment where he goes, 2312 01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,040 Speaker 3: you know, coast to coast plus one hundred and two yards, 2313 01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:41,400 Speaker 3: incredible moment. And the thing I really respect about Sam 2314 01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,519 Speaker 3: Hubbard is he is He's as humble as humble can be. Man, 2315 01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,400 Speaker 3: humble pie all the way, you know, and he just 2316 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:53,680 Speaker 3: and he he's very very thoughtful, introspective. You ask him 2317 01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:58,080 Speaker 3: a question and you can see, you know, he registers 2318 01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,880 Speaker 3: to question registers, He thinks about it before saying anything. 2319 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:03,400 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to put his foot in his mouth. 2320 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 3: He is Uh, he's great. He has been an unbelievable 2321 01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,240 Speaker 3: symbol of greatness for the Bengals organization. 2322 01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder, I don't know, maybe he doesn't 2323 01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:16,240 Speaker 2: know what he's going to do next, but he's one 2324 01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,760 Speaker 2: of those guys. Whatever he does he will be successful. 2325 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,800 Speaker 3: At Absolutely, he's got a foundation that's that's killing it, 2326 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,160 Speaker 3: and it's it's helping kids that are hungry, you know, 2327 01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,200 Speaker 3: and don't have can't get enough food, they can't get 2328 01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:32,240 Speaker 3: three square meals at home. So he's helping the community 2329 01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,439 Speaker 3: in that regard. And uh, that's that's part of his uh, 2330 01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,679 Speaker 3: you know, the golden rule, that's part of his upbringing 2331 01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:39,439 Speaker 3: is help others that need help. 2332 01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,240 Speaker 2: Man, no doubt, no doubt. All right, we have put 2333 01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,120 Speaker 2: this one in the books, thankfully in many aspects because 2334 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,240 Speaker 2: that was difficult to watch at times. Yesterday was really 2335 01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,599 Speaker 2: frustrating to watch yesterday. But the beauty of the NFL 2336 01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,280 Speaker 2: is there's next week, there's the Miami Dolphins. Let's gather 2337 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,720 Speaker 2: here on Monday night and talk about, uh, the the 2338 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:57,960 Speaker 2: bounce back of Joe Burrow and the Bengals. Does that 2339 01:48:58,040 --> 01:48:59,439 Speaker 2: sound like a play on Dave Lapham. 2340 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,839 Speaker 3: Sounds like a huge plan, a big game for Joe Burrow. 2341 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:04,520 Speaker 3: Intua will struggle. 2342 01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,599 Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with us tonight. 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