1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Hour three for A Thursday, will take a moment and 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: preview tomorrow and to Friday and Friday's are for Freedom. 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Representative ak Kamara will be in studio with this Grace 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: Keening from American Experiment and did I see Representative ak 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Kamar RNC Committee min Ak Kamar. I'm just bestowing new 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: titles if we win the Nobel Peace Prize, and I 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: can say that I'm a Minneapolis resident and a Nobel 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Peace Prize winner. Can I just bestow titles upon people? 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier in the show. Minneapolis was 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: and its residents were nominated for the twenty twenty six 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize by the progressive news outlet The Nation. 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Representative Max Rymer with Grayson ak tomorrow on A Freedom Friday. 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: A lot of comments rolled in from the few cups 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: that I pulled from CBS News their reporting on Operation 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Metro Search. We're going to double back to that in 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: just a moment, but let's go here as we kick 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: off the third hour of the show on Twin Cities 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: News talk House speaker Lisa Damoth maintains a significant lead 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: in the Republican gubernatorial preference poll that was taken on 20 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday night at the precinct caucus events held across Minnesota. 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm working off an article here in the wake of 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: the of the caucus night. 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: At the time it was. 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Ninety four percent of the precinct caucuses reported their results 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: of the non. 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Binding straw poll. But it did give. 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: Republicans across the trade on a state and opportunity to 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: decide who they would like to see as their candidate 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: for governor this year. As of yesterday afternoon, Lisa Damoth 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: had five five and seventy seven votes out of the 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: over seventeen thousand about seventeen thousand, four hundred votes reported. 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Second place was businessman Kendall Qualls with just over four 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: thousand votes four and a half thousand votes, followed by 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: My Pillow founder Michael Lindell in third one three thousand votes. 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: You had a state senator, former State Senator Scott Jensen 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: trailing in fourth with over one thousand votes. He, of course, 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: was the twenty twenty two Republican nominee for governor. A 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Lisa David, a House speaker and gubernatural candidate, joins us. 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Now. 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: Good morning, Lisa, and what takeaways beyond the leading in 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: the Stropholes from earlier this week. What other takeaways did 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: you did you gain from caucus night? 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: Well, good morning, John, good to have this conversation with you. 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: You know, looking at caucus night, the turnout was excellent, 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: and what I was most impressed with is I had 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: the opportunity to visit four different caucuses, and I was 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: in Blaine and over Elk River, Monticello, and then I 48 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: stopped back closer to home to talk with precinct caucus 49 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: conveners and what I took away is there were a 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: lot of new people that were involved. Every room that 51 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: I was in, every chance that I said, you know, 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: how many many of you are here caucusing for the 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: first time, we're the number of people. That is an 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: excellent takeaway because if we are engaging regular, common sense 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: Minnesotans this early in the process, that means they're motivated 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: to stay with the process and vote in November and 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: turn this place around, make Minnesota stronger and different than 58 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: what we're seeing much better. 59 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: Again, talking with gubernatorial candidate and House Speaker Lisa Damuth, 60 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: there's some word coming out of on the DFL side 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: of things, is that in the wake of some of 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: the different districts the DFL districts, there were quite a 63 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: few uncommitted votes relating to Amy Klobishar, who recently threw 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: her hat in the ring, replacing Governor Tim Walls in 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: her hopes of getting the nomination on the Democrat side. 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious, one, we haven't had a chance to talk 67 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: since Amy Kloboschar made that announcement. 68 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: Some curious to get your thoughts. And then two, you. 69 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: Know, what are your comments relating to how it seems 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: as if, at least for now on caucus night, there 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: were a lot of individuals that appear to be unhappy 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: with she being sort of the de facto nominee. In 73 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the amount of these uncommitted votes that in some of 74 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: these districts actually came out on top of Amy Klobishar, 75 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: she came in second to those. 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? 77 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: I was not surprised by it, you know, as far 78 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: as Senator Klobasar jumping in this late, it made me 79 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: wonder if they had internal issues going on, which is 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: what was delaying her announcement anyway. And then you saw 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: Keith Ellison come out shortly before and say no, I'm 82 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: running for Attorney General. Again, So it made me wonder 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: what was going on kind of behind the scenes. But 84 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: they're going to have to figure it out either way. 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 3: This is what I've said, John, when I decided to run. 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: You know, the candidate at the time was Tim Walls. 87 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 3: So I was going to defeat Tim Walls or whatever 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: Democrat they traded him out for because I didn't think 89 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: he would be the one on the November So then 90 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: they put in Amy Clovershar. Amy Clovershar is exactly like 91 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: Tim Walls. That is a Timwall's third term. There is 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: no difference between them. She supported him in everything that 93 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: he's done. She supported President Biden during his cognitive decline 94 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: as his initial bid for reelection, and so there's really 95 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: no difference. But whoever they decide to put on that 96 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 3: November ballot, I'm up for the challenge. I'm ready to win. 97 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: I think I have the ability to both unify Republicans 98 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: and get those independent voters that are really feeling like 99 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: they don't have a place to go. I've got proven 100 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: leadership my time in the legislature, and I'm ready to win. 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: We have the legislative session getting underway. I believe on 102 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: the seventeenth am I correct on that. I think that 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: is correct. Okay, your expectations on this legislative session, I 104 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: mean they got a lot of different controversies. Obviously, Minnesota 105 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: continues to dominate the national news headlines. Fraud is, you know, 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: coming back up in the conversation. And I'm convinced that 107 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: once we continue to see this ice operation, because it'll 108 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: eventually come to an end here in Minnesota, fraud will 109 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: begin to take center stage. But I would just be 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: curious again talking with House Speaker Lisa Damuth expectations for 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: this upcoming legislative session and you know, thoughts on its productivity. 112 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we know how things went last year, but 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm just curious to get your thoughts of your expectations 114 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: coming up on the seventeenth. 115 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: Sure, we are still in a tie in the House, 116 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: even though there were two special elections just last week. 117 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: Democrats won both of those seats. They had been Democrat 118 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: controlled before. So we are back to a tie, sixty 119 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: seven Republicans sixty seven Democrats. And so you'll see the 120 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: ability that we've had to work together. All of our 121 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: committees are tied. They're an equal number of membership and 122 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: co chairs except for our Fraud Committee. I fought for that, 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: and we have a Republican chair, Representative Robbins does an 124 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: excellent job sharing that and so that's our only Republican 125 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: held committee. Last year, though we did balance the budget, 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: we got our work done with the tie. We needed 127 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: just one day of a special session, ten hours as 128 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: all the House needed. But when we go back this year, 129 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: it's important to recognize we have different leadership in the 130 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: Democrat caucus, Representative Zach Stevenson as their caucus leader. I 131 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: have worked with him. He was Ways and Means Chair before, 132 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: and he was in those negotiations last year, as was 133 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: our Ways and Means Chair Chair Torkleson. But we know 134 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: each other. We've been meeting fairly regularly. You know, we're 135 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: back on a schedule now where we're meeting weekly. This year, 136 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: we'll be talking about bonding, obviously, we will be talking 137 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: about fraud. We also know that we're not an automatic 138 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: conformity state. So any of these no tax on tips, 139 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: no tax on over time that have come from the 140 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: federal government our state Minnesota would have to opt into 141 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: that with some other things, and so there will be 142 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: work done. It is a shorter season, just February till May, 143 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: and there's been special elections, all won by Democrats as 144 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: we knew, So, like I said, we're in that tie. 145 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: It's going to be a very interesting year just to 146 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: see how new leadership and how the changes within that 147 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: caucus are going to continue to work with Republicans like 148 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: they've been working with us, and Republicans have worked with 149 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: Democrats last year because that's what the voter sent us 150 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: to do. 151 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course it being an election year just 152 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: tosses an extra wrinkle into all of it. So we'll 153 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: certainly be here every step of the way. I appreciate 154 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: you joining the show this morning again. Gubernatorial candidate and 155 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: a House speaker Lisa Damon. Congratulations on the polling from 156 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: the caucus earlier this week, and I look forward to 157 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: continuing our conversations as the legislative session gets underway and 158 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: the campaign continues. 159 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 3: Excellent. Thank you so much, John, to talk with. 160 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: You coming up. 161 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: So, what makes a person for go his or her 162 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: regular job or routine to stalk federal law enforcement? You know, 163 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: what makes a person agree to put themselves in harm's 164 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: way out. 165 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: Of the freezing cold? Even after multiple incidents where people 166 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: have lost their lives. We're gonna tackle this. 167 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: I want to go back to those couple of clips 168 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: that I shared from CBS News and their story on 169 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: Operation Metro Surge, and get to your talkbacks as well. 170 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: It's all coming up. Don't go anywhere here on Twin 171 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: Cities News Talk from AM eleven thirty and one oh 172 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: three five FM. John Justice on Twin Cities News Talk 173 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: AM eleven thirty one oh three five fm, streaming worldwide 174 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. You know it's caught up on 175 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: the podcasts once the show is over. Update the ABB 176 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: if you haven't done so recently, and use the presets. 177 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Make Twin Cities News Talk KTOK number one on your 178 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 1: presets and greatly appreciate it. Fantastic piece out of the Federalist. 179 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: I want to share with you a few points from 180 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: revisit those clips that I played from CBS a moment 181 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: ago their story on Operation Metro Surge. But they asked 182 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: the question in this you know what makes a person 183 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: give up on her regular or he or she's regular profession, 184 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: personal routine to stock federal law enforcement, even after multiple 185 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: incidents for people who have been injured. It's a question 186 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: worthy of serious consideration. So before we get to that, 187 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: let's go back to these clips. The first one here, 188 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: same host on CBS talking to both Minnesota Brooklyn Park 189 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: Police Chief Mark Brewley, and then she also ends up 190 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: talking with the Minnesota Department of Corrections Commissioner Paul Aschanell. 191 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: And what's really interesting about this to me is just 192 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: the blatant bias on display. 193 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: There's no there's no hiding. 194 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: It, the way that the question is framed, the way 195 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: that she assists Mark Bruley in describing without the proper context, 196 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: what is allegedly some egregious actions by ICE. Again, there's 197 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: no details surrounding any of this. And then you get 198 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: the Commissioner, Paul Schanell, trying to say how this is 199 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: a national issue even though it isn't. So here's the 200 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: audio again from CBS. 201 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 5: You've said that ICE agents have stopped community members, but 202 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 5: also off duty officers. 203 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah tell me. 204 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, So we've had a couple officers in a civilian 205 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 6: staff that were stopped by ICE agents. They're obviously US citizens, 206 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 6: just in travel represent people of color and were stopped 207 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 6: in Forrester demanded for paperwork to prove that they're US citizens. 208 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 5: Had weapons drawn on them in one. 209 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 6: Case, Yeah, there's the assssed guns drawn on them as 210 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 6: a police officer with a child in their vehicle going 211 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 6: to the store, had been boxed in, guns drawn on them, 212 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 6: and demanded paperwork to prove that they were that they 213 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 6: were essentially a US citizen. 214 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a driver's license. 215 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Let me add to the commentary at last hour when 216 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: I first played this this clip, This is really bad storytelling. 217 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: When you have a situation like what happened, you tell 218 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: the full story. They started here, they were heading here 219 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. This happened. There wasn't any motivating factor involved. 220 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: They just you fill in the gap. There's all these 221 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: gaps to present this narrative where it might be Listen, 222 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: everything that they said maybe factually accurate. 223 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: But it's what's not said. It's what's left. 224 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: To the mind of the person watching or listening, and 225 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: what they want is for you to walk away after 226 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: hearing or watching this. 227 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: Going, oh, listen to this. 228 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Just a random police officer and a person of color 229 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: pulled over with guns drawn with their child, just wanting 230 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: to go to the store, without providing any of the 231 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: necessary information. Because you and I both know, because you 232 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: use your brain that there was probably another factor involved 233 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: that brought ICE to that car, to that person to 234 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: conduct themselves the way that they did. 235 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the point I was getting ready to make, 236 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 7: John is every single time you see him, there's twenty 237 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 7: six cameras at least pointed at them, no matter where 238 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 7: they go, no matter what they do. But all of 239 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 7: this egregious stuff that people say happened to them, guess what, 240 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 7: not on video. It's not on video because it didn't happen. 241 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 7: It's not happening. These are lies. These are lies. 242 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: Ice does not do this. They don't do random things dumb. 243 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: And let me add another element. I just pulled these 244 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: clips this morning. I don't know how old this story is, 245 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: but that press conference was like two weeks ago. 246 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: So we're still on these instances. 247 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: And even after all the criticism and people wondering what 248 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: was the context, you're still not getting it. 249 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 8: Yeah. 250 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: It's not so much what they're saying, it's what they're 251 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: not saying. 252 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 9: Hey, John Matt from man Cato. So now it's a 253 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 9: couple of Brooklyn Park police officers who were pulled over 254 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 9: off duty. Huh, Well, maybe these officers were working with 255 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 9: the ICE Watch network and somehow came to the attention 256 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 9: of ICE when they were being followed. 257 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: And if you don't provide, meaning the Brooklyn Park Police Chief, 258 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: if you're not going to provide the proper context and details, 259 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, you open yourself up for this type of speculation, 260 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: in form speculation. What brought the ICE agents to that point. 261 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: It's like the story from the schools earlier this morning. 262 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: This was from Fox nine. Le'll just play a portion 263 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: of it. 264 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 10: Well. 265 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 11: These public school officials are asking that dhs to be 266 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 11: forced to revert to a long standing policy that prohibited 267 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 11: them from stepping foot near a school or bust up. 268 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 11: That policy, in place for decades, was thrown out when 269 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 11: the current administration came into office. 270 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 12: We need this to stop, and we need this to 271 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 12: stop immediately. 272 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 11: Minnesota educators are taking a stand calling on federal immigration 273 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 11: agents to stay away from places of learning. 274 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 13: Our students can't learn, our educators can't teach. 275 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: Can we get protesters away from places of worship? That 276 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: would be a good place to start. 277 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 13: Sorry, And when there are massed armed agents outside of 278 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 13: classroom windows, sometimes for days and days, what that leaves 279 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 13: our students and educators traumatized. 280 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: I missed that the first time around. 281 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 8: So the accusation here is that there's masked ICE agents 282 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 8: and what they just got their masked faces pressed up 283 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 8: against the windows of the schoolrooms looking in. 284 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: Who do we get fear mongering is real, folks. 285 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 11: Both the Fridley and Duluth school districts joining the state's 286 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 11: largest teacher union in a legal attempt to bar federal 287 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 11: agents from conducting immigration enforcement in or around schools and 288 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 11: bus stops. 289 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 12: It is pure and present evil, and we are denying 290 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 12: children the right to human dignity and basic safety. 291 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 11: Fridley school officials claim attendance has dropped nearly one third 292 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 11: since the start of Operation Metro Surge, while Duluth says 293 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 11: it's spending more than half a million dollars a month 294 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 11: on emergency planning, harming their ability to provide us safe 295 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 11: and stable learning environment. All this, as they say, school 296 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 11: leaders who speak out are being retaliated against. 297 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 12: A board member of ours was followed from her residence 298 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 12: with her three year old child in the back of 299 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 12: the car. Both are natural born US citizens, all the 300 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 12: way to her child's stake care. Do you know why 301 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 12: this is happening? Because I am telling the truth on 302 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 12: behalf of our district. 303 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: HI. 304 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: Getting back to the Brooklyn Police chief in his comments, 305 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: I have a few more talkbacks on that. 306 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 14: Johnny's inner city police chiefs from the Park Book and Center, 307 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 14: Robinsdale Kristall. They're appointed by the leftists that are elected 308 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 14: by the leftist lunatics down there. They have no more 309 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 14: credibility than the mayors do on any of that. 310 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 15: To these supposed officers that were pulled over, I would 311 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 15: really hope that at least one ICE or CBP person 312 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 15: had their bodycam rolling and I'd love to see that 313 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 15: footage because you know, it shows the real picture. That's 314 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 15: why the Democrats are going to rue the day they 315 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 15: asked for bodycams enforcing them, because they're going to start 316 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 15: rolling out the bodycam footage and they're going to start 317 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 15: showing how justified these officers are now under attack they are. 318 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Here was the portion of the interview with CBS did 319 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Department of Corrections Commissioner Paul Chanel. 320 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 5: What would you say to other states who are watching 321 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 5: Minnesota right now and who feel like that's a blue 322 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 5: state problem. 323 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 16: Softball, Well, this is a national problem first and foremost, 324 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 16: it is an indication of the. 325 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: The big challenges we. 326 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 16: Have around a national immigration policy and the national enforcement policy. 327 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 16: But public safety is not a red state or a 328 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 16: blue state problem kind of fact. If you look at 329 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 16: crime on the whole, crime is down in Minnesota, period, 330 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 16: and it. 331 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 17: Was dollary morning, John Korey in Texas. This is not 332 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 17: a national problem. This is not going on in Texas, 333 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 17: not even close. And they are pulling out exponentially more 334 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 17: illegals here than they are up there. 335 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 2: And none of that's going on. 336 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: This is Minnesota. 337 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 18: So you had to go out and find the two 338 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 18: most left wing liberal law enforcement leaders in the state 339 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 18: to come on your show and justify the garbage that 340 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 18: you're pushing on Ice. 341 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: You can't. 342 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the part of it that just drives 343 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: me nuts. You know, we really need to start having 344 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: a conversation of what Ice is having to deal with. 345 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: That would be a good place to start. 346 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: Have you seen the video this crazy liberal woman who's 347 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: been posting videos online looking for riot dates. I'm not 348 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: kidding you. She's looking for dates with progressive dudes that 349 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: she can go and protest with. 350 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's upset. 351 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: Now because she allegedly went and rammed her vehicle into 352 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: an ice agent's car and what she calls a peaceful protest, 353 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: and now she's facing obstructing charges, and of course she's 354 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: all worried about this, you. 355 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 19: Know, a foh, hey, John, we all need to realize 356 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 19: that Paul Schnell reports to Tim Walls, and he's just 357 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 19: taking his marching orders from his boss. 358 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: And you and I both. 359 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 19: Know when your boss tells you to do something, you 360 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 19: generally do it or you're gonna get fired and you're 361 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 19: gonna lose your job. 362 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, You're right. 363 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I have no doubt these 364 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: individuals are true believers. All right, coming up your talk 365 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: back of the day, Well, ask the burning question of 366 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: the morning, when is it okay to compare aspects of 367 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: what's happening in Minnesota to Nazi Germany. 368 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm not asking that question. 369 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: An editorial columnist in the Minnesota Star Tribute is and 370 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: I pulled the relevant points of this piece out and 371 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: read it so that you didn't have to. You will 372 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: be not surprised to learn there wasn't a lot of 373 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: relevant points to pull out, so it'll be a rather 374 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: quick coverage of a lengthy article asking this burning question 375 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: about how Governor Tim Wallas made some analogies in relation 376 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: to ice and has been criticized for it. Did he 377 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: deserve it? We'll get to that and your talk back 378 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: of the day next here on Twin City's News Talk. 379 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: Final segment for a Thursday here on Twin City's News Talk, 380 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: light flew by today Spaitmans. 381 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 12: So I'm Smali. I'm proud to be Somali. 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Oh, 405 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: and I poked at it, and all this fluid port 406 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 4: it's a copy of me. 407 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bruce. 408 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: That is your talk back of the day, brought to 409 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: you by MINILEAF at minileiaf dot com. It does make 410 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: me wonder if whether or not Bruce was partaking in 411 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: some of the mini leaf fungummies or the spooky mini 412 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: leaf tonics. He gets a talk back of the day 413 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: to day because he was committed. He was committed to 414 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: the joke invasion of the body snatchers. For those that 415 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: hadn't got the reference to congratulations, what makes a person 416 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: forego his or her professional career to go and become 417 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: a professional on the street agitator, even in the midst 418 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: of when people are getting injured, Casey chalkin the federalist rights. 419 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: It's a question worthy of serious consideration given that more 420 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: than thirty four thousand Minnesotans have joined various agitator groups 421 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: to learn to be US Immigrations and Customs enforcement observers. 422 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: And that's an angle on this that deserves more attention. 423 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: And maybe we'll talk about it tomorrow. And what It's 424 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: not a representation of the majority of Minnesota by any stretch, right, 425 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: it still is a very law large invisible presence of 426 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: the disillusioned, the broken, and brainwashed. Casey goes on to write, 427 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: I think I know what James Burnham, one of the 428 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: most important, if today largely unknown American thinkers of the 429 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: twentieth century, would say about anti ice activism. Burnham would 430 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: probably say, it's a clear example of the Liberals' attempts 431 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: to accelerate the suicide of their own civilization. 432 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: Now, this is dovetailing off. 433 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Of something that I've been focused on the show about 434 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: something that jd Vance had just said recently to Megan 435 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: Kelly on her podcast, just talking about the state of 436 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party and how it really is just all 437 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 1: opposition to anything having being related to President Donald Trump 438 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: and Republicans, that's it. And certainly any visual or physical 439 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: example that they can use to push back on the 440 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: leader and those that follow the leader of the opposition party. 441 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: They will exploit, rules, morals, lies, it doesn't matter. 442 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: Here's what JD. Vance had to say on Megan Kelly's podcast. 443 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 20: Actually, ask yourself, what is it that unifies the Democratic. 444 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: Party in twenty twenty six America. 445 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 20: You know, you might say it's men and women's sports, 446 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 20: and okay, nobody really cares about that, or if they 447 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 20: do care about. 448 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: It, they hate it like we do. 449 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 20: Okay, you can't run a national party on men and 450 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 20: women's sports raising taxes on hard working Americans. A lot 451 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 20: of Democrats believe that you can't run a campaign on that. 452 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 20: The only thing that they have is they hate Donald Trump. 453 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 20: That's what unifies their party. They hate the Trump administration. 454 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 20: That's what unifies their party. And that's what their legislative 455 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 20: agenda would look like if we gave them power. 456 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: And as I've mentioned before, you cannot and this isn't 457 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: on Jdvans, but. 458 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: Take that and then you include it. 459 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: You include in that the way that individuals go and 460 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: reinforce their bias through the internet, through social media. 461 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: Prior to that. 462 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: You can have a conversation with your friends and you 463 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: could rationalize, and you could hear the facts, and you 464 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: could change of you and opinion even if on policy 465 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: got you disagree. 466 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Now, people are. 467 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: Way too quick and this is no there's no exclusivity 468 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: to party, but people are way too quick to try 469 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: to jump online to go and have their view that's 470 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: being challenged supported, or to refute something that they're hearing. 471 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: And that's when the thought bubbles, you know, and the 472 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: and the the group bubbles, and the group think begins 473 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: to form. Now getting back to this federalist piece, and 474 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: again this American thinker, James Burnham, he had published Suicide 475 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: of the West, the stallwart to anti communist by the 476 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: time he'd gone and published this, and it gets into 477 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: a history lesson of Burnham. His first book, Suicide of 478 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: the West, an Essay on the Meaning and Destiny of Liberalism, 479 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: back in nineteen sixty four, had already lived an extraordinary 480 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: life up until that point. Okay, so I'm giving a 481 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: little bit of background. It goes back quite a bit. 482 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: But by the time that he published a Suicide of 483 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: the West, stalwart anti communists, had become one of conservatism's 484 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: leading intellectuals. 485 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: Writing for William F. 486 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Buckley Junior's magazine National Review, Buckley labeled Burnham as the 487 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: number one intellectual influence on National Review since the day 488 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: of its founding. Now he died in nineteen eighty seven, 489 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: and as recently as twenty fourteen, all of his books 490 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: were listed out listed as out of print or being 491 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: of limited availability, Yet their relevance has only grown. In 492 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: Suicide Out of the West, Burnham censures those of the 493 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: West who hate their own civilization, readily excuse or even 494 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: praise blows struck against it, and themselves lend a willing 495 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: hand frequently enough to. 496 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: Pulling it down. Doesn't this all sound familiar? 497 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: The reasons left us do this in their beliefs about 498 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: human nature and society They originate there. They believe that 499 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: man's nature is not fixed, but changing, with an unlimited 500 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: or at any rate indefinitely large potential for positive good 501 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: favorable progressive development. Now Burnham contrasts this with the traditional 502 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: conservative position, which posits that human nature has a permanent, 503 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: unchanging essence and that man is partly corrupt as well 504 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: as limited in his potential. This of course goes back 505 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: to the theological doctrines of original sin, but I'm not 506 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: going to wipe out on that right now for the 507 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: sake of time. When it comes to citizen activists engaged 508 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: in relentless provocative confrontation with federal immigration enforcement, this is 509 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: all relevant. Those agitating against immigration enforcement have been indoctrinated 510 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: not in a patriotic love for America, but a cynical 511 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: rage toward it, epitomized in the celebrated a ridiculous comment 512 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: by musician Billie Eilish about how no illegal, no one 513 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: can be illegal on stolen land. This after Minnesotan's learned 514 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: that Samali migrants had fleeced taxpayers of an estimated nine 515 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: a billion through welfare schemes. And I want to get 516 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: back to that in just a moment, because there's a 517 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 1: change that needs to take place regarding when we talk 518 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: about particular communities. 519 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: I'll get to this in just a second now. 520 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: Because leftwi activists believe human nature is fungible and all 521 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: societal problems can be solved through political programs and social engineering. 522 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: It means individual people such as criminals and illegal aliens 523 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: cannot be held responsible. 524 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it all begins to make sense. 525 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: And because of that, right the leftist field the underlying 526 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: guilt that their race, gender, or religion somehow makes them 527 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: partly responsible for the suffering of the marginalized, which further 528 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: propels them to seek civic atonement. Left wing agitators think 529 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: they are saints and future martyrs, but the prophetic Burnham 530 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: could perceive what they truly were. Men and women who 531 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: schooled in an ideology of self hatred of their own 532 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: culture and civilization are deluded into hastening its demise. They 533 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: are to be pitted and prayed ford and prayed for. 534 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: That was again just a portion of this piece. Anti 535 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: Ice activision represents the suicide of Western civilization by Casey 536 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: Chalk and the Federalist. I heard some further commentary this 537 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: week made a really really interesting point talking about the 538 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: label of immigrant and how you know, typically an immigrant 539 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: would represent an individual who goes to another country and 540 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: then you know, seeks to use what is offered by 541 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: that other country to go and better themselves. 542 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: You are an immigrant. 543 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: You travel to another country because you want to better 544 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: your life, and you know that there are mechanisms in 545 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: place and means at which you can go and take it, 546 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: take advantage in a good way of what that country 547 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: has to offer, as you give back to that country 548 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: through work, through hard work, to benefit your own life. 549 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: That's a big differenfference from the person who comes into 550 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: the country, whether illegally or legally, and then suddenly decides 551 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: that they're just going to take advantage of all of 552 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: the social programs that are available to them, not bother 553 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: to assimilate and try to change the very nature of 554 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: the culture in which they are now a part of. 555 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: That's not an immigrant anymore. That's a transplant. That's not 556 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: a person who is seeking to go and appreciate and 557 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: value what it is that the place they now reside 558 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: has to offer. That's a person who seeks to take advantage. 559 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: Of all of it through fraud, through social programs. 560 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: A person who then aspires to go and get into 561 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: a position of power and change the fundamentals of what 562 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: then was founded upon, what made it great in the 563 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 1: first place, and the whole reason why they came here 564 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: to begin with. That's not an immigrant. That's a transplant. 565 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: And there's a big difference between the two. So you 566 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: couple that with what this individual is saying, and you 567 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: begin to see, at least I did a much better 568 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: picture of what's actually taking place right now and why 569 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: people are acting the way that they are, and the 570 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: difference between the immigrant communities that we have here in Minnesota, 571 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: and why we seem to be focused on one particular 572 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: community because factually that community has gone and perpetuated some 573 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: eighty if not more percent of the fraud taking place, 574 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: but that community, for the most part, are acting more 575 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: like transplants than they are immigrants. Because we have plenty 576 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: of examples of other immigrant communities here, especially in Minnesota, 577 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: that have done what a typical immigrant would go and do, seek. 578 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: The better life. Sought a better life. 579 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: Came to the country, worked hard, appreciated what the country 580 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: had to offer them, respected the laws of this country, 581 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: didn't come here illegally, didn't try to take advantage of it, 582 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: didn't go and commit crimes, didn't try to go and 583 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: fundamentally change the culture to suit wherever they came from. 584 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: They understood, no, I'm living here now, and if I'm 585 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: going to go and benefit from what this country has 586 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: to offer, then I'm not going to go and try 587 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: to change it. From within, big big difference. All right, 588 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: Before we get to when is it okay to compare 589 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: aspects of what's happening in Minnesota to Nazi Germany, I 590 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: want to go here a couple of clips. Tom Holman 591 00:34:53,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: was on Laura Ingram last night that he's on the 592 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: ground in Minnesota talking about the continued operations. Here's a 593 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: bit of what he had to say. 594 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 21: People are, I think understandably skeptical on the right and 595 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 21: many on the left, but the MAGO types don't back down. 596 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 21: Mass deportation is what Trump ran on, and now it 597 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 21: seems like it's we hear targeted raids and so that 598 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 21: it gives you know, a lot of his hardcore supporters 599 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 21: concern tonight, what can you tell us about that? 600 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 10: We're not back and dollar at all? I said today, 601 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 10: mass deportations will continue, and I said no if illegal 602 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 10: amies are not off the table. Look, the normal footprint 603 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 10: here is less than one hundred and fifty agents. We 604 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 10: got twenty four hundred bouten of ground here and we're 605 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 10: from continue to force the immigration law. I'm out there tonight. No, 606 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 10: we're forcing the immigration law. What we said from day one, 607 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 10: January twenty from day one, President Trump and nine the 608 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 10: people in administration said, we're going to prioritize the public 609 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 10: safety threats because that makes the most sense because they 610 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 10: pose the most danger. But we're not We've rest a 611 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 10: lot of the illegal ailins. Look at the numbers, over 612 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 10: seven hundred thousand deportations. What's your record for this agency. 613 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: He also had a direct message for both Walls and 614 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: Mandy be Mayor Jacob Frye. 615 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 10: But as far as mayor of Frying, Governor Wallas, now 616 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 10: it's time to do your job, and I said, we're 617 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 10: not going to do any further drawdowns. If to hate 618 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 10: the rhetoric and the attacks on ICE, the impediment and 619 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 10: interference doesn't cease. This is on you now. So you 620 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 10: say you care about public safety, you say you believe 621 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 10: ICE has a duty to do. You all say you 622 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 10: agree with removing criminals. Now's the time to take some action. 623 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 10: Do a public service announcement as and tell these agitators 624 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 10: to stop. Whether they're doing, stop attacking ICE officers. They're 625 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 10: not going to listen to me. I agree. I'm skeptical 626 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 10: too that the agitators are. 627 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 4: Going to stop. 628 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 10: This is where the governor and the can help. 629 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: But they're not going to do that, and he knows 630 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: they're not going to do that. 631 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: That would be counter to the cause. 632 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: Got to perpetuate the narratives, including attempting to justify the 633 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: over the top rhetoric David M. Perry and the Minnesota 634 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: Star Tribune. When is it okay to compare aspects of 635 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: what's happening in Minnesota to Nazi Germany? Governor Tim Wallas 636 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: has made such analogies in relation to Ice, has been 637 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: criticized for it. So he opens up with a musical 638 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: example of Billy Bragg, an English folk singer. 639 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: It's just relevant. 640 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: As we get further into the piece, you then get 641 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: a lot of history over Nazis, Nazi Germany pastors. None 642 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: of it relates to anything that's going on here. You 643 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: got to get four paragraphs into this piece before you 644 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: get to anything that even remotely has to do with 645 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: the subject of his piece. And it says the analogy 646 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: is not saying that the current situation is the same 647 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: as Nazi Germany, but that the types of choices and 648 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: actions are at least very similar, and so history and 649 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: poetry can be our guide. 650 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 2: The individuals that. 651 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: Are soaking up this Nazi language and using this terminology 652 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: against Trump and Republicans. They're not looking this deep. Give 653 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: me a break, They're not nuancing any of this. He 654 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: goes on to say the recent kerfuffle about Ann Frank 655 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: came after Walls talked about how many of us grew 656 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: up reading the story of Anne Frank. Somebody's going to 657 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: write a children's story about Minnesota, where, he says, Republicans 658 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: and their allies at the US Holocaust Museum protested this 659 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: wasn't the first time Republicans have gotten mad at Walls 660 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: for comparing them to Nazis. I too think about the 661 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: Gestapo when I see President Donald Trump's secret police marauding 662 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: through Minnesota. And then he puts in parentheses note if 663 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: the massed agents keep their identities secret, they are secret police. 664 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: No, they're not. 665 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: Secret police is specifically a government agency that is working 666 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: covertly for the government, like you don't even know that 667 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: they're there. It doesn't just mean wearing a mask. The 668 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: rest of the piece, there's nothing else even relating to 669 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: trying to justify any of this, because you can't. And 670 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: then he says, here's why where I am today. An 671 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 1: analogy can't just be about how it makes you feel, 672 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: but what you're driven to do. Billy Bragg, he's back 673 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: to the artist at the beginning of the piece, says 674 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: that first we learn the lessons of history, and then 675 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: when the fascists come, we get in their face. The 676 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is the real fascists are the 677 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: ones that are out there opposing ice at every turn. 678 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: Do you miss any portion of today's show, check out 679 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: the podcast. It'll be up on the iHeartRadio app. Thank 680 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: you to Devin and the Master Control Freedom Friday tomorrow. 681 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: You're on and off topic comments all morning long. You 682 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: can get those in overnight if you'd like. Grace Keathing 683 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: from American Experiments, Representative Max Reimer and RSC Committeeman Ak 684 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: Kamara all in studio. Have yourself a fantastic Thursday. Enjoy 685 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: these temps. I'll talk to you tomorrow. 686 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 16: Bye.