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Welcome back. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:53.200 It's Petrosen Money on M five seventy l A Sports 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:58.440 home of your back to back World Series champion LA Dodgers. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.800 They took it to him the last couple of years. Yeah, 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.240 I sure did. Now you're getting it. Now you're getting 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:05.640 the hang of it. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:06.320 Don yep. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.199 You know they took it to him every night, every 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.800 damn night, kept taking it to it when it mattered, 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:12.840 they took it to him. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:13.120 Yep. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.280 And you can listen to our show on the iHeartRadio apps, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:21.360 stream it live, or podcast it later. We've got a 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.680 lot of play by play Clippers Lakers tonight, we got 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.400 nothing tomorrow full show, but a triple header on Thanksgiving 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.680 Day of NFL and then the Bears and Eagles NFL 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:37.039 on Black Friday Saturday. We are gonna take it to him. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.560 That's where this all started, when we called Woody Hayes 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.000 and we got that great message on his phone. Even 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.319 though he's dead, we were able to call Woody Hayes. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.200 And then we did the bo Sham Beckler sound to 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:53.240 make it even, to even it up right, And then 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.040 we played only Teams win by my Dad, and then 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:01.920 we played Jerry McGuire's mentor Dicky, and then we played 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.280 Dan Lanning, Yeah, yelling at organ about how line Art 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.680 is not walking through the tunnel and if he did, 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:14.120 he'd be grand Old. So we had a real inspirational 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.200 first hour of the show. And you were mocking us, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.920 You're mocking our enthusiasm. Don I'm not saying you're gonna 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.240 take it to him. And all this cause we got 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.000 Ohio State Michigan not Am kickoff on m five seventy. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.120 Can't wait to go to bed tonight. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.600 See, I know you're not being honest because I know 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.000 that that's not your way. You're very laconic and wooden 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.680 in many ways, and that is not in your nature. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.360 It's never too old to turn over a new leaf. Pete. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:42.760 I guess you're right. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:48.119 Hey, sometimes it just hits you. And what it really 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.760 got you really struck a chord in your in your heart. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.560 All right, Well, that there has been scheduled talk, oh 0:02:53.960 --> 0:03:01.120 more scheduled talking. Monday, Matt and I are going to 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:05.000 be in Downey at the BJS at one o'clock. We're 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.360 going to take it to him for a Petrosen money 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.160 Power lunch and we're going to keep taking it to 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.320 you all the way until three thirty, right one to 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.040 three thirty, taking it to you. And that is the schedule. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.360 A lot of play by play on the station. Tomorrow's 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.520 our last show of the week. We'll be back on 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.600 Monday at one o'clock taking it to him at the 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.400 BJS in Downy Sedule. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:36.320 Short all right, I'm not done with the coaching platitudes. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.280 His word the word of the day. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.920 Today's word of the day is Mormons nobody. Yeah, because 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.120 you know, you never want to play a pregame speech 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.080 because they might swear. But you know, I didn't know 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.640 if whatdy Hayes was going to swear when we called him. Right, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.880 we really walked the plank and we were like, what's 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.960 going to happen? And it paid off for us. Don 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.600 changed our whole philosophy, my whole life. Right. The schamn 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.840 Beckler had a piano behind it. You know he probably 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.560 wasn't gonna swear. But we know that our friend from 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.400 b YU actually a great coach and a very inspirational man, 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.240 and all these all these people are every night, but 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:23.120 I'd like to hear from Kalani Sataki, former b YU 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:27.200 full back and the head coach of the BYU Cougars 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.280 who just won a big game at Cincinnati. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.360 We build a firm and awesome foundation, the foundations, you guys, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.080 and if you build it, you will not fail. Dave 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.919 no Dog's nice statement over nice no no no to me. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:05:01.000 They don't know. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.800 He forgot to take it to him. Well, but can 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:01.400 he forget that? 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.279 I do say that though, like in my mind before 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.599 the show starts every day, because no one knows what 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.880 we're gonna do. And I say, in my mind, they 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.839 don't know, but the show's gonna come on and guess 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.600 what they're about to find out. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.679 We build the firm and call some foundation foundations, you guys, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.400 and if you build it, you will not fail day. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.000 No dog's nice statement, no nice no, no, no, up 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:24.240 to me. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:31.520 They don't know about the the. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.359 Hey, that was a pretty good You like that one better? 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:47.000 Absolutely not like that was okay, that was what he hates. Okay, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.720 thank you, Okay, because what he hates is gonna take 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.279 it too. I will say I was on a zoom 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.679 call once with Klani is one of my favorite people 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.760 in football. I got to know him and he was 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.880 a coordinator at Utah and then he was a coordinator 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.359 decordinator even though he's a fullback and a coordinator at 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.520 Oregon State and then he got that job and he's 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.960 doing a great job. But I was on a zoom 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.720 call with him and he said, Okay, I'm gonna get 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:13.240 off the call. I'm gonna go eat. They got dinner 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:14.880 upstairs for us, petress. I said cool. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.640 He goes, yeah, I'm gonna have a salad. I said, great, coach, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.080 and he goes, yeah, right. You know what I'm gonna eat. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.120 I'm eate everything they got it? 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:28.839 Okay, coach, make way for by? 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:33.320 You say, hey, it's me? 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.520 Why you just inspire you? Hey? 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:37.159 What's the day? 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:38.320 Is it dead lyne day? 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:38.599 Oh? 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.320 No, gotta go log on right, oh way, and I'll 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.560 be the first on my block to click apply. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:44.960 Tell me you've never heard this? 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:46.120 Here? 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:48.160 Let me Hey they sent me. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.440 I gotta reply, b Why yea? 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:51.400 Here's my debut? 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:52.679 Isn't this lovely? 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:53.359 Come on? 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:53.680 God? 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.839 Here you'd reaject, but that proved in correct? 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:56.919 So glad you want me? 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:02.559 He built up so much morement to my mom. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.800 I couldn't contain my excitement. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:10.120 No, Surrey, why you what I do? Had you rejected me? 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.960 All right? You don't like that? We had so much 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.040 momentum going. It just came to a crashing halt. Dates 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:18.040 are you calling what he hats? 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:18.840 Gamble? 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.360 Oil down to three things? 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:22.680 Here? We got three things. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.440 Number one, the team that hits the hardest and the longest, 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.600 the team that starts the fastest, and the team is 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.320 too damn smart to make mistakes. That's too smart to 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.480 make mistakes, and that team will win without any question 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:37.080 if you. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:37.920 Take it to them. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:38.480 There we go. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.080 You don't make mistakes, and you keep taking the tellers. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.440 No question who will win, no question, who will win. Now, 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:46.240 let's go out and do it. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:46.600 Let's go. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:54.800 Let's keep taking it to him. Man, All right, fine, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.960 here's my number. Number of the days, number of the days. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:05.120 Three point four million. Pirates pitcher Paul Skeins is grossly 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:10.320 underpaid National League Rookie of the Year National League Cy 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.280 Young this year, and he's still on his rookie contract. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.520 This year he made eight hundred and seventy five thousand. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.440 There's still a lot of money, but not for him. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.520 For winning the Cy Young Award, it was announced stay 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:26.760 that schemes received a three point four million bonus from 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.120 a pre arbitration money pool that MLB set up for 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.000 young players who have big seasons on the field but 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:37.000 are still under rookie contracts. He won't be eligible for 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.880 salary arbitration until after next season. He's in scheduled to 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.760 be a free agent until twenty twenty nine. Imagine if 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.040 he keeps doing what he's been doing, what will he 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.199 get tim in twenty twenty nine? A billion dollars? 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.559 I mean at least a half a billion right, they're 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.079 gonna pull up that shipwreck from Yamamoto. Right now is 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.400 the highest paid pitcher in baseball twelve years, three to twenty. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:08:59.680 Five I believe. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:08:59.960 Wow. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:04.120 Oh that's in five years, four years from now. Bet 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.160 you he gets topped. Yeah, he'll get five hundred. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.840 Million after next year. He is arbitration eligible. But that 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.719 also has limits on there is how much he can 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.679 make year to year. It's not like next year he 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.640 can just go and sign, you know. I mean he 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.520 can if they wanted to rip up his contract and 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.560 agree to a long term deal, which they can't do. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.440 But Pittsburgh is not gonna do that. Yeah, they can't 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:22.760 pay it. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.720 He's just wasting away in Pittsburgh. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.520 I wouldn't say he's wasting away, but. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.080 Yeah, less some of this cool Pittsburgh song and my 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.760 dad recording, He's not going to finish his career in Pittsburgh. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.000 His numbers this year were unbelievable. His e r ray, 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.680 his strikeouts near the top in baseball, best in the 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.920 National League. He was a ten and ten pitcher, and 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.400 that's reflective of what he's at. He's a Pittsburgh Pirates 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.800 starting pitcher. They don't win, they're not going to go 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:56.920 to the postseason. Yet he's gonna put up stupid numbers individually, Well, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:57.959 waven talent. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.880 He's probably supplementing it with money off the field. I 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.480 would imagine he's in that one commercial where he turns 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.480 with the bottle it. Well, he's got a girlfriend that 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:08.679 like all the young kids like. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.280 Yeah, not just young kids, you know, there's a lot 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.280 of adults that want to take it to him. Yeah, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.200 when it comes to her, she's an adult. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.920 Yeah. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.360 I try to think the equivalent of an NBA player 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.559 who's just buried on a team that's so bad and 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.200 is probably the best player or close to the best 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.120 player in basketball. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.960 But he's probably getting paid for it though, Like you 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.800 hit free agency so much faster in basketball than you do. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.200 Baseball, baseball six years. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.160 Here's the dumb answer from like the dumbest people that always, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.120 and with all due respect to this text us or 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:55.640 somebody always writes this. He gets to see Livy Dune naked, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:01.840 So I think he's fine. There you go, gets to 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:06.520 see her naked in Pittsburgh. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:15.560 Yeah, sweet, I've got displayed. I don't know. The only 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:21.640 thing I do know calling card take it to him. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.120 Wait, till it hits the air and my dad's song, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.960 maybe that will inspire schemes you know about Pittsburgh to stay. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.520 You know, Shoeyo Tawi comes out to Michael Bublay now 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:33.679 is his walk up song. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.000 Yeah, but it's a horse crap version of that song. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:36.800 I'd like to see. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.920 I'd like to be the ninas Mon version. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:40.640 Come out to your dad's I have a home in Pitch. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:41.720 I would like to see that. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:42.360 To my point. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.920 Speaking of music, this is the song of the day. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:53.640 Sweetish electronic band Little Dragon, fronted by the lovely and 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.880 talented Yukminagano, performs our song of the day called best 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.000 Friends because today, sitting in for Matt Smith on a 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.400 busy Thanksgiving week is one of the best friends that 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:10.320 anyone can have. He's a UCLA basketball legend, FS one 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.680 and Big ten network analyst, and we are thankful for 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.559 his friendship to the Petros and Money Show, and he's 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.480 here to take it to him fulfilling a four hour 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.640 commitment to great sports Talk. It's the great Don McLean, 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:24.960 Great Sports Talk. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.440 Hello Don, and you know what, Ronnie, thank you, And 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.880 it's going to be even a better friendship now that 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.880 I'm taking it to him even more. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.960 Like, I can't wait till the next week. I'm complaining 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.280 that Shamnbeckler. I want to play the Shambeckler, so you 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:39.719 get to take it to him out of your hand. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:40.280 Believe it. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:41.840 I'm bringing sham Becker back. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.320 No, yes, no, all day. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:51.080 We'll be right back with Scott Wolf. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.560 We've made it even easier to take LA Sports with 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:03.000 you this summer or your favorite AM five seventy LA 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.600 Sports podcast, a preset on the iHeartRadio app using Apple 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.960 CarPlay or Android Auto road Trip all summer with LA Sports. 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.079 It's poping. Everybody, Welcome back. 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:16.520 It's Patterson Money on AM five seventy LA Sports. The 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.520 only college football game we have on the dock. It 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.360 is the big one, not SEUCLA because nobody really cares 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.839 about it anymore. It feels like unless the teams are hot, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.319 and they are not Ohio State Michigan, We've got it. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.640 At nine am on A five seventy, Don McClain is 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.040 in for Matt Smith. Matt and I will be back 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:40.000 on Monday together at the BJS in Downey. And that 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.760 is a one o'clock kick for the Petroson Money Show. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.640 The Petroson Money, Power Lunch. Don't forget to podcast the 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.360 show on the iHeartRadio app. Joining us right now on 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:54.600 your Southern California Toyota Dealer Celebrity Hotline. Is the greatest 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.760 beat rider to ever live, at least in the city 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:01.360 of Los Angeles. Nobody held us accountable in his way 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:08.960 like Scott Wolf, and he still does at Inside SoCal 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:09.560 on Twitter. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.200 No were Wolf for the Chinese menu in his hand? 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.400 The one and only Scott Wolf the whit do your 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:20.360 wins on the Petros and Money Show. There's just so 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.040 much that happened in the USC Oregan game, in and 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.520 around it that I felt like we had to check 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.120 in with Wolf in Rivalry week. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.640 Here is he watching the Trojans basketball team while he's 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:32.480 doing this interview. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:37.880 Wolfe, are you watching the Maui Invitational? Nope, Well it's 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.560 going down to the wire seton Hall's down to the 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.280 USC's eighty to seventy eight with twenty four seconds left 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:50.480 against the Pirates. Does that tickle your fancy? No? Okay. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.120 Scott Wolf is our guests and he is a single 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.040 minded man when it comes to this situation. Now, a 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.720 lot of people got very excited about USC. This season, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.000 and you can't say Scott that they had not improved. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.040 They certainly did improve. But was it wishful thinking that 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.600 they could go to Oregon and win that football game 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.440 and get into the playoff picture, which they've never been in. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:15.920 Well, first of. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.920 All, I don't know why everyone got so excited about 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.240 beating Iowa, who was like a ten point underdog in 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.000 that game, and they acted like it was the greatest 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.840 thing ever and it proved they belong in the Big Ten. 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.080 And then the following week they got to go to 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.240 Eugene where they couldn't win during the Pac ten days. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.360 So no, I never felt they were going to win 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.080 that game because I thought Dan Lanning was going to 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:44.520 out coach Lincoln Riley. So yeah, no, I never thought 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.680 the USC had a chance at an upset. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.400 You where do you look to this season? Do you 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.520 say it was a success Do you say I mean 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.320 Lincoln Riley's being paid a lot of money to be 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.120 pretty mediocre, and I know they've improved this year, but 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.880 there's no there's no there's no end to the way 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.400 they are. In my mind, They're never going to develop 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.240 the front, They're never going to dominate teams the way 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:13.400 they need to to be nationally relevant. This is exactly 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.280 what you're gonna get year in in, year out. Is 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.680 that good enough for today's Obviously the landscape in LA 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.200 has changed when it comes to football. Is this good 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.560 enough for USC football? They're paying this guy one hundred 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:25.160 million dollars? 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:28.360 Well, how is it good enough? 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:28.960 You know? 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.920 All these homers say that the defense is much better. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.880 They gave up thirteen hundred yards and three losses. They 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.960 gave up five hundred yards to Illinois. Notre Dame rushed 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.320 for over three hundred yards. That's not good enough. And 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.360 what I don't understand. And you know you you know this. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.480 You were at SC a year in and year out. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.080 The expectations have always been high, no matter what, whether 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.720 it was justified or not. And all of a sudden, 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.960 now there's a group of fans, some of them pretend 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.600 to be media, and they say three losses is great 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.879 and great progress. I mean, are they watching Indiana with 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.480 a coach in year two who won in Eugene last 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.879 month and he doesn't have all the tradition and the 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:18.320 media market and everything that USC has. So I've never 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.240 heard of a three loss season being called a success 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.359 at USC. I mean, it's better than last year, no 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.040 doubt about it. But it's not great. It's not college 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.800 football playoff worthy and it's not worth paying a guy 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.840 eleven million dollars a year, and I. 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.480 Agree completely with that. So what do they end up doing. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.680 I mean, you know that they have a huge buyout. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.840 I don't know if there's a donor like Rick Caruso 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.320 who's willing to come in and try to save them 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.680 like they did from Clay Helton. This is very much 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.800 like the Clay Helton era, very reminiscent of the Clay 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.600 Elton era in a lot of ways. So what is 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.639 the next step for us? He is it just Lincoln 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.080 Riley purgatory until he goes back to the South. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.760 Well, he is in some ways holding the program hostage. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.239 You know, they're there in debt, they haven't raised all 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.600 the money on this football Taj Mahal that he's forcing 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.760 them to build for his program, and everybody's focusing on 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.000 this recruiting class for next year, which is fantastic. But 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.159 you know, if everybody on the same page that the 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.959 GM was hired by Jen Cohen, he's above Lincoln Riley, 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.800 So she really didn't believe in Lincoln Rioley. She was 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:36.560 forced to inherit him from Mike Bone. So I don't 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:41.160 I think the program is still sideways. You know, there's 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.920 going to be issue a recruiting classes isn't going to 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:45.360 come in next year and all of a sudden turn 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.520 them into a top five program. 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:51.440 Not in the transformal era, especially not an edny aere No. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.400 And they're saying they want to back off the transfer 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.440 portal now all of a sudden, while other schools seem 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.960 like they want to focus more on it. But I 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.399 don't know. I just I don't see them getting to 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:07.560 that level that Ohio State is at and Oregon is at. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.040 And to me, that's the bottom line. Either you're in 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.560 the College Football Playoff on a regular basis, or you're 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.080 not getting it done when you have all the resources 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.480 USC has. And he just doesn't strike me as a 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.160 guy that's going to get it done. And I think 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.159 the schedule is going to be harder next year than 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.919 it was this year, even if he weasels out of 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:29.199 the Notre Dame game was. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.360 Pretty favorable this year. Now, I do have to ask 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.119 you about that Wolf, because nothing bothers me more, not 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.200 that it matters if I'm upset about something, I'm generally 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.960 upset about everything. But the way they've handled the Notre 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:46.160 Dame thing is I just can't. I never thought i'd 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.639 see the day that this would be the case. Is 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.520 this just a lost cause for us old heads? And 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.280 they're really going to mess with the Notre Dame ratheralry 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:55.960 to the point where it's not recognizable. 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.840 Well, there's still a part of me that things, you know, 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.520 maybe some of these former players of the past that 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:07.800 are big time guys, maybe some of the donors are 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.720 going to put their foot down and force them to 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.359 keep the rivalry going. But then, you know, there's also 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.480 a part of me that sees Lincoln Riley whining like 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.600 a little baby to Jen Collin and telling her he 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.640 can't go to the playoffs if he has to play 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:27.240 Notre Dame. And what galls me about this is, you know, 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.040 this guy won't be here in ten years, right, So 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.800 it's so the rivalry is dead and gone in ten 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.960 years because a guy from Muleshoe, Texas decided he can't 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:41.640 beat Notre Dame. I mean that's horrible. I mean, how 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.080 do you hire a coach? Would us he ever hire 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.600 a coach that says he can't beat Notre Dame. I 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.280 mean that's a good standard to me when you interview 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.959 a coach, do you think you can be Notre Dame? No, 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.560 Well then go somewhere else and coach. I mean that's 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.720 he doesn't want to compete. I mean, how do you 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.600 be at USC as the head coach to not want 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.440 to compete? It's ridiculous. 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.160 I agree with that. What about next year? 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.480 Would Jade and Mayava and mckaye, Lemon and Lane be 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.640 on the Heisman list or and the twenty twenty six 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.280