1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Friday mornings here Scott Sloan on seven hundred WLW, so 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: this week and you're probably gonna spend a lot more 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: time in front of devices than you do during the week, 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: right just because you're not working hopefully and you yourself. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: On average, you have around twenty one devices which are 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: online in various places throughout the day, all of them 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: using data pretty much all the time. And with the 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: AI boom comes the need for more data centers. Thus 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: the debate so here in the Tri State, the debate 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: over regulations being fought tooth and nail. And if you 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: don't think this affects you, it's probably coming to your area, 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: no matter if you live in the city or in 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: the outlining area special rural areas Ohio. Right now we're 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: fifth nationally for data center development. We want to be 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: number one. The state. ESUS is an economic machine force 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: to get us on the technology well at the top 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: of the technology map. I guess City of Cincinnati's you 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 2: may or may not know, it's getting very proactive. They 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: just put a temporary moratorium on data centers in the 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: city while they do a zoning study. Adams County. Last 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: night there was another meeting over well, we really don't know. 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: This is probably the most interesting battle over data centers 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: is that adding the controversy over these plants comes a 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: plan here in Adams County that's completely secret because Economic 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Development director signed a non disclosure y agreement and nobody 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: really knows what it's going to be, where it's going 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: to go, and what it's going to do. Other than that, 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: everything's great. Alex shafers here, Alex is a resident and 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: he's proactive in the process of finding out if this 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: is right for his community, and he's out in Adams 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: County and the Monroe Township and joins the show this morning. Alex, welcome, 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: are you brother? Yeah, good to have you. So last 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: night there was a meeting and I know basically the 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: bottom line is you're not going to do a more 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: toim like City Cincinnati has, but you're going to make 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: sure there's some strict zoning regulations in place. So it's 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: it's progressing, it's moving forward. 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: It's progressing, it's moving forward. There's a lot of community 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: input last night, and essentially the role of the trustees 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: now within the township is they are going to work 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: with outside legal counsel to put in the framework for zoning, 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: you know, within these industrial areas within the township, because 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: everybody was on the same page where we have to 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: get more information, we have to have more facts, and 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: more importantly, we have to know even who these people 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: are that are wanting to come in and what they're 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: wanting to do. 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what raised the red flags for you about 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: these projects and what motive motivated you to get involved. 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: You know, these sites at Stewart and Killing Station, Killing 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: is in and Roe Township have been empty for roughly 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: eight years since the power plant shut down, and a 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: lot of that has to do with the site cleanup. 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: And those were the economic drivers of our county, and 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: Adams County is such a prideful, beautiful countryside, but those 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: were the economic drivers that really our community was built around. 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: So it is these are general generational issues that we 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: have in our county and we want to make sure 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: that we're doing the right things. So not only us, 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: but our children and our grandchildren are proud to continue 61 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: to live and remain in Adams County. 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: So this isn't completely going. Hey, we don't want a 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: data center, we don't want any of this stuff. Stay 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: the hell out of our town. 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: No, I would say everyone is of the mindset where 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: as I would akin these NDAs too that mister Worley 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: signed is you're essentially agreen to get married before you've 68 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: even seen who you're going on a date with. So 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: you know, we need to have more facts, and we 70 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: need to know exactly who these companies are. Are they 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: are they you know, companies based in the US, so 72 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: are they foreign based companies? And you know what exactly 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: the plans are because there's so many different variables that 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: come into play. 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: And I think that's a critical point because in this 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: particular case, and we'll get into the NDA battle in 77 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: just a second. And Paul Worley, I believe is the 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: Economic Development director for Adams County, he signed out with 79 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: a company. But you guys have no idea on you know, 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: the size and scope of the project, the exact location. 81 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you could kind of figure that out maybe 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: with EPA records, but if you don't know the company, 83 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: you don't know even if it's a data center or 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: the type of services they offer before this thing goes in. 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: So the projects that are being proposed in Spring Township 86 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: are a little bit further along, specifically, at Stewart seite, 87 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: and there's also Buck Canyon site which is across the 88 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: road too soon in Row is very much earlier on 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: in the process, which is very fortunate. And so that's 90 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: precisely it. You know, we we have to have more 91 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: information on this because they're I mean, it's just it's 92 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: a black hole right now for the county. 93 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So the Economic Development director signs this non disclosure 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: agreement with a couple of companies and says, we've got 95 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: to do this and they'll be transparency if the project 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: gets to a point. So, you know, how do you 97 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: respond to residents like yourself being asked to wait for 98 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: details until the deals are newly finalized. What point is 99 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: it too late for meaningful public input? 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: I think that starts at the time that you actually 101 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: signed the NDAs. You know, Paul Whorley executed two NDAs, 102 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: one in January of twenty twenty four, the other one 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: was in November of this year, and based on my 104 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: tracing them, it's my opinion that they are linked to 105 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: Amazon because the framework around the NDAs is the same 106 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: as what's going on in Mount War right now in 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: Brown County. And you know, to that point, and I 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: had raised this issue in discussions with some of the 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: commissioners on Monday. Is Paul Worley serves at the pleasure 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: of the Board of Commissioners in Adams County. So how 111 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: is the Board of Commissioners able to oversee Paul discharging 112 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: his job duties for the board and thus in the 113 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: best interest of the county if they cannot even monitor 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: what he is working on. Who is who he is 115 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: working with on these sites? 116 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: Sure, but from the company standpoint, be it Amazon or 117 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: whatever it might be, we don't know. At this point. 118 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: He's kind of like the conduit. So in these deals, 119 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: you get a guy like him, an economic development guy, 120 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: signs a non disclosure agreement with whoever's building this thing, 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: which is kind of standard practice because you know, they 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: want to keep the secret for as long as pass 123 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: from the competition because there's a lot of proprietary technical 124 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: information of all. But the people who don't sign it 125 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: would be the the elected lawmakers, right that would be 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: the county commissioners of Adams County. And so at some 127 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: point there's going to have to be a you know, 128 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: disclosure so that you can you can vote on this. 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: So based on that is this anything? Is this? Is 130 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: this different than how it's done elsewhere? Not that it 131 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: makes it right, but you know what I'm saying is like, 132 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: if this is standard practice, I get why Amazon or 133 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: whoever is trying to protect their interests here because you know, 134 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: you don't want all this information out there until you 135 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: get a deal kind of put together. 136 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: The debate on whether NDA is a standard practice or 137 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: not really dependent on who you ask. I can tell 138 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: you in certain areas and Columbus, which Columbus has over 139 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: one hundred data centers right now, is not the most 140 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: standard practice. And to your point about competition, that is 141 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: actually what NDAs specifically inhibit. My degree is in economics 142 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: from Ohio State University, and when you put an NDA 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: in place, that prohibits you from even looking at other 144 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: alternatives as to those sites and those developments, thus reducing competition. 145 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: What happens when you reduce competition, you harm the consumer. 146 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: Who's the consumer here, the residents of Adams County. 147 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get the argument, and you guys, you 148 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: definitely should have a hand in the process here. We 149 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: don't want government just going out. No, we know what's best, 150 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: and that's it doesn't work that way, county officials there 151 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: will switch to the jobs saying, they said, well, seven 152 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: hundred seven hundred jobs lost with the power plant closures 153 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: there in Adams County. Another five and a half million 154 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: from a school funding gets pulled off because as they said, look, 155 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: I've got hey, listen, this is going to help support 156 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: the tax space here. But as I understand it, data 157 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: centers are obviously exempt from property taxes because it's commercial. 158 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: What about the job creation now, So. 159 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: Job creation, the studies have shown that you have to 160 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: have roughly twenty million dollars of capital input costs to 161 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: create one full time job. So if you have a 162 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: billion dollar data center development, you are only going to 163 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: create roughly fifty jobs, Whereas if you look at other 164 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: industrial usages for that site that actually provide you know, 165 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: not only additional jobs and infrastructure and increase land value 166 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: for the community. You are actually specifically targeting a broader workforce, 167 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: the technical skill set of the workforce that we have 168 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: in Adams County. And it's also then benefiting the community 169 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: for people to work there and also the school districts 170 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: in terms of the generation of those taxes from the payroll. 171 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what about the element of what about then 172 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: this is you know, the t love the trades, but 173 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: there's been like over a thousand, around one thousand construction 174 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: jobs for up to five years, and some of those 175 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: would have to be in place for maintenance because a 176 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: minute you finished this huge project and to take you 177 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: three years, you're going to start having to refit some 178 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: areas that were done three years ago because it's technology 179 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: to change as rapidly. So some of the estimates say, 180 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, maybe one hundred million plus in local wages, 181 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: one thousand, two thousand workers, eighty percent of those will 182 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: be in radius of where you live. Those jobs are 183 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: nothing to some of your nose. 184 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: At there are nothing good. 185 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: Some of your knows that. 186 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: But I think you have to look at the actual 187 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: data in terms of the payroll. And I've talked about 188 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: this with David Gifford, the county auditor, who's a good 189 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: friend of mine. And you know, when people try and 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: say these auxiliary jobs that are created in the permanency 191 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: of them, the numbers simply do not support that in 192 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: the payroll records, and the auditor has that, and I 193 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: think you also overall, with these data centers in the 194 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: job creation, you have to look at what's happening in 195 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: the Greater Columbus area with Intel, where essentially Mike Dwine 196 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: sold the farm to Intel and we had and the 197 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: plants were supposed to open last year, and they were 198 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 3: all these financial incentives and benchmarks that were supposed to 199 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: be met by them. They have not might have the 200 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: option to enforce those agreement last year, and he basically said, no, 201 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: it's okay. You know, you can do whatever you want 202 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: here in Ohio. So what would make the situation any 203 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: different in appal Asha areas? 204 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 5: And now? 205 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, But at the same time, you look at it 206 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: and go, are there industries that are are knocking at 207 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: the door and trying to get their way into Adams 208 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: County right now? You know, you mentioned Columbus, Cincinnati, the 209 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 2: big cities. A lot of companies want to do business 210 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: in those areas. It makes a lot of sense for 211 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: reasons we don't The obvious reasons would be infrastructures are 212 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: ready in place. But you know, Adams County I lost jobs, 213 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: power plants. Is it kind of like you're turning your 214 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: nose up with a good thing or you're trying to 215 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: basically avoid a slam dunk here I mean, I think 216 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: people see this and go, well, it's Adams County. It's 217 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: not like and it's not being I'm not being derogatory. 218 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: It's just like, there are in companies that are looking 219 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: to knock the door down to Adams County at this point. 220 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: Are there. 221 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: No, I would disagree with that. The sites have been 222 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: looked at for a multiple for a multitude of different 223 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: sectors over the years. And again, I think it's important 224 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: for people to remember that once the power plans close, 225 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: it's not like you can just open up, you know, 226 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: a new enterprise there the next day. There's so much 227 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: environmental cleanup the head to be done with King Fisher 228 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: Partners to come in. 229 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: It's a brownfield, yeah exactly, precisely, yes, yeah, yeah, and 230 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: butt Okay, so there's some infrastructure there, but people are well, well, 231 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: I'd rather build something, you know. At the same time, 232 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: you know, these data centers take a lot of power, 233 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: so you know, put two and two together, it's pretty 234 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: obvious that you want to be near water, which you have, 235 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: and you want to be near you know, megawats of electricity. 236 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: They're easily accessible, correct, And we do have the power 237 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: grid there in place, and you know, this is something 238 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: that a big Ramaswami has discussed about the strain on 239 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: the power grid right now, and there's currently a House 240 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: bill in place, House built six forty six sitting in 241 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: the House Rules Committee in terms of actually setting a 242 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: thirteen member commission to study these data centers because of 243 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: the boom of them in Ohio, because of the strain 244 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: on our electrical grid. So I kind of akin it 245 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: to people as this is, how are we going to 246 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 3: can continue as a society to supply the power and 247 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: energy to these data centers because they are not they 248 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: are they are an energy input. They are they are 249 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: not an energy export if we do not have facilities 250 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 3: in place to actually generate that power for them. 251 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've talked about this a lot of my show 252 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: Well in the Future, And you know, you're in the 253 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: tech sector as well, So it's not like you know, 254 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: your lutt your scrim at the old man, scream at 255 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: the clouds and saying damn computers go away, right, I 256 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: mean you lean we all lean into it. We're all 257 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: and it's it's such a paradox, right, Alex, because we're 258 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: all guilty of this. We all have devices. I mean, 259 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: we're talking you know digitally. Right now I'm recording you digitally. 260 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: It's going into a cloud. And so we're guilty of 261 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: this ourselves right now. We have no choice but to 262 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: figure out a way we can all live with us absolutely. 263 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: And you know, my company uses you know, cloud servers, 264 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: and you know, we have to have them as socide 265 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: and we have to have them also in terms of 266 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: national intelligence and also being independent from you know, foreign control. 267 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: And I think we all saw what happened with COVID 268 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: when manufacturing shut down and the rest of the world 269 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: look that, you know, Oh my god, look how the 270 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: pendent we are upon China. So you know, that is definitely, 271 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: you know, a great point. And that's the thing I 272 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: think everyone's standpoint is we are not saying no to 273 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: data centers overall, but in terms of specifically the locations 274 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: and the phases in which you possibly would put those 275 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: in and where you would put those in at is 276 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: what the biggest concern is with not having any information 277 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: from these companies. 278 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: The number one of the biggest outside of transparency the 279 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: politics of it, which generally they tend to settle down 280 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: at some point. What's the biggest concern for residents would 281 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: you say there Alex Schaeffer and Adam's count over this. 282 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: I would say specifically where they're proposing it is, you know, 283 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: the landscape in you know, the southern part of Adams County, 284 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: the hills and the river and everything is what makes 285 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: Adams County beautiful. And also, you know, you know, the 286 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: side effects that you have from the data center's long 287 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: term is something that again we don't know about. So 288 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: if the state is at the process to where they're 289 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,479 Speaker 3: looking at creating a thirteen member committee to study those effects, 290 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: then us as Adams County should sit here and look 291 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: at it and say, okay, if this is a broader 292 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: issue at the state and obviously the national level, you know, 293 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: we don't have the ability as a small community to 294 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: fight this later on down the road. So we don't 295 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: want to make the wrong decision now that we look 296 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: back ten years and we're like, what did. 297 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: We do right? It's hard because you know, you're at 298 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: the tip of the spirit at this point. There are 299 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: not many other piers you can look at that have 300 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: been doing this for you twenty years and see what 301 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: the long term effects are. You got to make a 302 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,119 Speaker 2: decision that's going to impact the next hundred exactly. 303 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: And you know that's that's honestly the problem in society 304 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: with a lot of things, whether that's technology or medicine, 305 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: and you know, we have to continue to evolve and adapt. 306 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are unforeseen consequences that no one can predict. 307 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: And usually that's the case, we didn't we didn't think 308 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: of that, or we didn't see that coming. Because while 309 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: the world is always changing, for sure, so are the 310 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: next steps here. 311 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,119 Speaker 3: So from around township right now, they're in the process 312 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: of obtaining outside legal councils start trapped in the framework 313 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: for what they want to put in for zoning. Specifically 314 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: their sprig Sprig Township has a meeting I believe it 315 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: is February twenty third, and there there is going to 316 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: be some more information hopefully that'll come out about at 317 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: that standpoint. And so overall for the county, the commissioners 318 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: have promised to have more public input and a more 319 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: dedicated special meeting to this. But again I think it's 320 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: very important to point out, you know, in terms of 321 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: these developments, the Board of Commissioners has the option and 322 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: to direct mister Warley to recuse himself from these NDAs 323 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: and that prevents these companies moving forward with the speed 324 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: that they would like and garner that public input and 325 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: have these representatives come in and talk to the community, 326 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: talk to us about what their plans are and how 327 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: they want to integrate themselves into our county in a 328 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: way that we're proud of, just like General Electric has 329 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: done with their jet engine testing facility in. 330 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: People makes sense, you think Cincinnata has it right putting 331 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: the moratory monus. 332 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: It did, I do, and several other townships and Columbus 333 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: have done that. Jerome Township, Washington Township, and the City 334 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: of Dublin have done that. And they have data centers 335 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: kind of around the perimeter of the City of Dublin. 336 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: And because you know right now it's an arms race 337 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: for data centers, it truly is, and that stems from, 338 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: I believe, you know, a technological arms race with China. 339 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: So again, in order for us to properly look at 340 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: this for our future, and look at the side effects, 341 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: and look at where we want to see these things 342 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: in the landscape of our communities, we have to put 343 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: the pause button in place, get more information, get more facts, 344 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 3: and surely be able to make candidly a more educated 345 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: and informed decision. 346 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: Alex Schaeffer is a residence in Adams County and it's 347 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: certainly one of the more interesting cases because of NDAs 348 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: and land and not knowing what really is going to 349 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: go and who even owns the data center for that point. 350 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: But it's a great example to look at for the 351 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: rest of us because Alex, as a resident is getting involved. 352 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: He's being proactive in the process of finding out if 353 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: it's right for his community and where he lives and breathes, 354 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: he eats, and works. And that's a battles you hearing 355 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: this's going well, that's Adams County, but guess what it's 356 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: happening in Cincy. It's going to happen in not only 357 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: the city, but it's going to happen in maybe suburban areas, 358 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: but particularly rural areas, Butler County, Mount Orb. The list 359 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: goes on and on and on. So it's a battle 360 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: we're all going to have to face, or an issue 361 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: we're going to have to face, I guess, and figure 362 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: out how to to what the best practice is that 363 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: it's not going away, We're going to have to put 364 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: them somewhere. How do we coexist? I guess is a question. 365 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: It's a great case, Alex. We'll talk again in the future, 366 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 367 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 6: Man. 368 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on and shedding some light on this issue. 369 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Scott, you know on behalf of the people 370 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: of Adams County. Thank you for having me on to 371 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: allow us to raise our voice on your platform into 372 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 3: the greater Tri State area. We are truly and greatly 373 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: appreciative of all. 374 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, brother, and again we'll talk soon. Thanks again, 375 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: Thanks Scott. All right, there you go, Alex Schaeffer on 376 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: the show. Yeah you hear that, you go. It doesn't really, 377 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't concern it, does it concerned? We're the ones 378 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: doing it right. We use all this stuff as far 379 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: as information goes in data. We're using it right now. 380 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: You're using it right and we're all using it. We 381 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: have no choice. This is it is what it is. 382 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: It's the future too. So can we lean and make 383 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: money and make Ohio a more vibrant and improve our 384 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: economy because of Intel, because of AWS et cetera, et cetera. 385 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: But we also have to live where these plans are too. 386 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: So watching these guys, I think it's a great test 387 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: case for all of us. If you Will. 388 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, We'll continue to follow that. Scott's Loan Show continues 389 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: seven hundred WW. 390 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 7: Now a man who has entertainment reporting, of course through 391 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 7: his veins, which makes him a medical opity. He is ABC. 392 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 5: Will Gans from New York. 393 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: Hey, Will, good morning, Good morning. That sounded ominous. Good morning, Yeah, yeah, 394 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: you want to try it again? Three two one, Good 395 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: morning Will. 396 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 5: Hello. 397 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 6: Oh my god, what a Friday morning to be speaking 398 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 6: with you. 399 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: You're such a phony. 400 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 6: I you ask I deliver. You said more energy and I. 401 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: Hit the accelerator, or you just sound like I don't 402 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: know your cat got run over by a dog. All right, 403 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: so let's shuh, I get mad. I don't know if 404 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: this is uh for telling exactly what we're going to 405 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: talk about. Maybe there's just nothing good on to watch 406 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: this weekend. We're kind of lulled. 407 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 6: Now. 408 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: You've got a little college basketball going on, you know, 409 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: Baseball hasn't started yet, so it's kind of post Super Bowl, 410 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: and so like, okay, I want to catch up some 411 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: shows here. This one jumped out at me and I'm 412 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: not sure I want to get into it. And it's 413 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: on HBO Max and it has to do with the 414 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: world's worst neighbors and it's a documentary. 415 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a docu series. 416 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 6: Each episode focuses on a few different pairings of the 417 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 6: worst neighbors in the country. And so whether it is 418 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 6: a guy from the city who moved out to the 419 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 6: country and pisses off his neighbors because he put up 420 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 6: a fence and now the horses can't run the same 421 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 6: way that they used to, or it is folks down 422 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 6: in the Panhandle of Florida who some of them think 423 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 6: that you know, private beach, you know, private property extends 424 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 6: all the way down to the water at the beach, 425 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 6: and other people think, no, I can sit here with 426 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 6: my family and set up and a blanket and lounge 427 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 6: for the day. So it's all these different pairings of 428 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 6: people that are just in crazy disputes. 429 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 5: They hate each other's guts. 430 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 6: And it I mean, it is equal parts funny, aggravating, 431 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 6: sad sometimes. But like my main takeaway when I finished 432 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 6: the first episode was like, oh my god, I've never 433 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 6: been more grateful for my own neighbor. 434 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. It's my old analogy 435 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: about cops. It's like, why would you watch that? It's 436 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: because no matter how jacked up your family and your 437 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: life is at least you're not on that show. And 438 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: if you're featured on that show, kill yourself. 439 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a reminder that it could always be worse. 440 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 5: Whatever it is, it could be worse. 441 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't know what that dynamic is, but it sounds 442 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: a lot like that, Like, well, my neighbor's kind of 443 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: a jerk, you know, because he makes a lot of 444 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: but at least he's not doing. 445 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 5: This exactly exactly. 446 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 6: At least he's not on TikTok, you know, posting videos 447 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 6: of how, you know, me and my wife look in 448 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 6: the front yard or whatever like, and that's what some 449 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 6: of these people are doing. 450 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: It's just it's crazy. 451 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: Well because that's a whole category on you know, YouTube TikTok. 452 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: And said, insert these photos, these these videos of neighbors 453 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: who are out of their minds apparently, but every things 454 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: out of context. At least this has some context, I would. 455 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 5: Think, right right this you get the full story. 456 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 6: It's like we, you know, my husband and wife moved 457 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 6: here for you know, my wife and I moved here 458 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 6: from you know, Seattle, and we just wanted a little 459 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 6: more space and all of a sudden, the neighbors. 460 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 5: You know. 461 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, so this you get a backstory, You get both 462 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 6: sides of the story, which is pretty interesting. 463 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: You know that one of the things about this too. 464 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 6: I'm always like, I can't believe everybody signs up to 465 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 6: be a part of this, right, you know, like really, 466 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 6: but but they do. 467 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. There was one on I think 468 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: it was Netflix, and help me. I forget the name, 469 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: and you may recall it. 470 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: It was. It was in Florida. Everything good is Florida, Florida, 471 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 2: and this this woman, this older woman, just angry at 472 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 2: the world. And the kids would play like in an 473 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: open lot next to her house and make noise, and 474 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: then she would document and like take their stuff and 475 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 2: threaten them and and uh, you know, at one point 476 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: a mom went over because she was like physically touching 477 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: the kid or did something, took their iPad and threw 478 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: it or something like that. I mean, their kids, they're 479 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: playing football or whatever, and I'd rather have that than them, 480 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: you know, doing bad stuff. Anyway, she feels like they're 481 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: walking on her property and she's got lines up in 482 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: the camera and the whole thing. And then the mom 483 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: comes and pounds on her door because she's had enough 484 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: and this woman shoots her to death through the door, 485 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: and it's all the whole the whole narrative, and the 486 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: whole story's done on police body camps. 487 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 5: Wow, wow, crazy, I remember this show. 488 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: I don't remember the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was. 489 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: It's like times it's hard to watch because there's little 490 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: kids and she just like shoots us mom to death. 491 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: Crazy lady. So you think your neighbor's bad. But we 492 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: live in a what and we'll get to the other 493 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: stuff in the second world. But psychologically speaking, because you're 494 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: a psychologist, uh, why don't we Why do we watch this? 495 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: Because the world right now is so damn depressing. Everyone 496 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: complains that, you know, everyone's at each other's throats. There's 497 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: so much hatred and vitriol, and yet instead of going 498 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: and watching something uplifting, we watched stuff that makes us 499 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: more depressed. Does that make any sense? 500 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think, you know, there's a part 501 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 5: of it that. 502 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 6: I think is a little bit like you know, you 503 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 6: you do look at it and it's like a solvable 504 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 6: problem from a distance, right, It's like, Okay, if I 505 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 6: was in this situation, I would do this thing, and 506 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 6: you can think about, you know, how I would solve 507 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 6: this problem, and the stakes are non existent because you're 508 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 6: not actually in the problem. So I think that's probably 509 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 6: part of it. And I do think there might be 510 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 6: a part of it that's like, Okay, my life is bad. 511 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: But it's not that bad. Yeah, maybe I don't know. 512 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: It's just like and that because I'm like, I don't 513 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: want to watch any more depressing them around news all day. 514 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: It depresses the hell I mean, And then I'll go 515 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: and I'll watch I'll sit down and binge that this weekend. 516 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense, doesn't make any sense. Yeah, 517 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: as long as I'm not showing up on the show, 518 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: We're good, all right, We'll dance our ABC Entertainment expert 519 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 2: out of New York. This has my wife written all 520 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: over down FX. It's called Love Story. 521 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 6: Yes, it's a JFK Junior and Carolyn Bessett, And this 522 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 6: is not a docu theories, so this actors playing everybody involved. 523 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 6: And the first three episodes dropped on FX, which means 524 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 6: you could probably watch it on Hulu or Disney Plus 525 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 6: if you have that bundle. And it tells the love 526 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 6: story of JFK. Junior and Carolyn Bessett starting in the 527 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 6: early nineties all the way up through their death in 528 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 6: ninety nine. 529 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 5: And you know it is it's well acted. 530 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 6: While told, it has ninety percent on Rotten Tomatoes, so 531 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 6: critics are into it as well. And yeah, it's just 532 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 6: a fascinating you know, Look, it's not just a recreation 533 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 6: of the moments we know for media coverage. There's a 534 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 6: lot of backstory here too. And you know what we 535 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 6: were not seeing that was going on behind the scenes 536 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 6: as these two were falling in love. 537 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: Huh. And it ends with their ultimately their death And 538 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: is that like, is that a culminate that. 539 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah. 540 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: Which wasn't a pleasant way to go. But all right, 541 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: that's I mean, if you're you're I guess you're fastied 542 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: by the history of the Kennedys. 543 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: You don't really hear that much about I mean, it 544 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: was alive, you did, but you didn't really. I don't 545 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: think it got that much play when up until that 546 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: the time they died. You know, it's like one of 547 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: those stories, Oh yeah, John John Kennedy, but you don't 548 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: you don't really hear much about them. 549 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: I think it's maybe it's me, I didn't follow. I 550 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: don't know. 551 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think, you know, like all 552 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 6: these other you know, the way we did the crown 553 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 6: for the British royal family, I think now it's people 554 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 6: digging into some American royalty, so to speak. 555 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and that's on FX right, yes, okay, all right. 556 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: And of course the plane crash in ninety nine took 557 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: their lives, and it's a I guess, you know, if 558 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna go and you're in love, that is a 559 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: romantic way to go, I suppose, not that you know, 560 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 2: certainly is untimely and unfortunate, but you know, it's it's 561 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: a timely, it's it's romantic. And how they died, I suppose. 562 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: And then finally, Marty Supreme is available for rent, and 563 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 2: I recall that isn't that an wasn't that an Oscar 564 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: nominated Oscar winning film? 565 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 5: Yes? 566 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so it is nominated for several Oscars, including for 567 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 6: Timothy Shallomey, who plays this nineteen fifties sort of ping 568 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: pong prodigy who is willing to do whatever it to 569 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 6: get to the top. And so you know, there is 570 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 6: Pingpong in the movie, but there's a lot of like 571 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 6: wheeling and dealing in him, you know, doing whatever he 572 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 6: can to get money to go play in Japan, and 573 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 6: whether it's stealing somebody's dog and returning it for ransom 574 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 6: or lying about the ransom or whatever. It is high stress, 575 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 6: but it is a very entertaining movie. So it is 576 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 6: finally available to stream at home. You'll have to pay 577 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 6: to rent it. But if you're into want to be 578 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 6: into the Oscar conversation, you know, at work or whenever 579 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 6: the Oscars are next month, this is definitely worth checking out. 580 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: It's a busy shell man man, he's on a run. 581 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: He can't do any wrong. He just came out on 582 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: the seat and just took over one hundred percent. 583 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 6: He's the youngest person to have three Oscar nominations ever. 584 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: Which it's yeah, crazyright. 585 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: Prodigt y aah right, And I did not know that 586 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: was a theme in the movie. That sounds interesting to me, 587 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: so I'm might have to check that out again. Well, 588 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: gat tot ABC in New York, so HBO Max, it's 589 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: neighbors killing each other. Then you got the Kennedy's dying 590 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: in a plane crash, and ultimately it's Martin Supreme killing 591 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: people in ping pong. So it is a death Valentine's weekend. Well, 592 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: all the best, thanks for coming on. Appreciate your brother. 593 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: We'll talk next Friday. All right, I have a good one, 594 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: all the best. 595 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: We've get a news update here seconds away, quick time 596 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: out Scott's loan seven hundred wty other Scott's Loan seven 597 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: hundred wit Friday morning is here. 598 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: Whether it's looking good, rain moving intomorrowho cares. So it's 599 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: gonna be warm. Maybe it's gonna be warm or more warm, 600 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 2: and not just the romance? Am I right? All right? 601 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: So we've got news coming about six minutes here on 602 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: the show, and I'll get more into the government shutting 603 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: down again, stupidity of it all. But the Save Act 604 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: passed yay, But did we need it? I don't know. 605 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: We'll get into that coming up at the ten o 606 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: seven when it comes to non citizens voting in US elections, 607 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: which we know not to be happening on a large scale, 608 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: and yet we are passing laws to prevent that from happening. 609 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: Even more so, where's the harm? There to be the question, 610 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: and we'll get to that after a ten o six 611 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: today on the show. I know a little heavier for 612 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: a Friday generally light now, but don't worry. Alsten will 613 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: be here a little bit later on ten thirty six. 614 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little sports. I know, major League Baseball 615 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: making some rule changes, also a change in regime. Why 616 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: not really At the Reds, Phil Castellini will be taking 617 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: over for his dad Bob. We'll see what changes with 618 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: the Reds, what's expected and is this really that impactful 619 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: to us here in Reds Country awaiting Euenia Suarez and 620 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: the Reds who, by the way, first spring training game 621 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: is next week coming up. Already, here we go, here 622 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: we go, Here we go sometime next week on the show. 623 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: And I know for a lot of people it's a 624 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: long three day weekend, President's Weekend coming up, and I'll 625 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: probably do this maybe Tuesday or Wednesday. But you hear 626 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: the story. You hear stories all the time. This story 627 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: today's a matter of fact. We have this woman in 628 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: Goshen who is charged with stealing more than three hundred 629 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: thousand dollars I believe from residents over several years at 630 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: this nursing home she's working at. And you hear these 631 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: elder abuse in eldener neglect and elder exploitation stories all 632 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: the time, and it makes sense. You know, we're living 633 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: much much longer than our ancestors did, and that's a 634 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: wonderful thing. But there is also a downside to that. 635 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: And the downside, one of the many downsides, of course, 636 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: would be the fact that you know, you start to 637 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: maybe lose your cognitive functions and the like because your 638 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: physical bodies holding on at the mental element beat dementia, Alzheimer's, 639 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: those things. We start to see more and more of that, 640 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: and so we need in this day and age two 641 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: where we don't live, you know, near our parents anymore. Now, 642 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: if you're on the West Side, you don't have to 643 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: worry about that. You're probably still you know, they're probably 644 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: live next door, upstairs or whatever. Bay it's old school 645 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: on the West Side. But for you know, in America today, 646 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: we generally don't live near our parents, and that president's 647 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: a whole host of problems, meaning you have to farm 648 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: out their care when they can no longer care for themselves. 649 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: So chrase like this, for example, the other one and 650 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: I want to get this. I've got an attorney I'm 651 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: going to have on next week from the firm. Actually 652 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: is representing the family of Robert Meyer. Remember the story. 653 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago. He was eighty four years 654 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: old and he was at hospice and Blue Ash and 655 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: before that he was at in Forest Hills, and he 656 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: had about less than two months to live. And he 657 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: was there about two months and they trans from the hospice, 658 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: and hospice, as you know, only has one door and 659 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: that's in. 660 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: There's no out. You don't leave hospice. You die and 661 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: you're taken away from hospice, just the natural progression of life. 662 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: And so mister Meyer died and they attributed it to 663 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: the fact that was you know, ends life stage nutrition, 664 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: wasn't get enough calories and that happens. 665 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know when you pass you just you stop eating. 666 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: That's natural, that's part of the natural process. Well, I 667 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: guess his daughter or family members here and said he 668 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: was calling. He said, listen, they're not treating me. Well, 669 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: they're not treating me. Well, he had called nine one 670 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: to one. Long story short, she noticed some strangulation marks 671 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: around his neck, and smartly she took photographs of said 672 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: ligature marks and they said, no, it's just it's part 673 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: of the care. This is what happens when you get 674 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: old and you're close to death, and it's an ugly thing, 675 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: and no we understand it. So anyway, long story short, 676 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: she finally convinced someone to check this out, and it 677 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: turns out they exhumed his body. The hemliconic corner did 678 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: like Shemarco, exhumed the body and discovered it wasn't end 679 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: of life nutrition, it wasn't protein catalie mal nutrition. It 680 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: was actually physical elder abuse. The contributing cause of death 681 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: was filled her physical elder abuse and strangulation, and it 682 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: changed from natural causes to homicide. So the one may 683 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: ask is, how in the hell does a hospital or 684 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: in this case of foreself health care, how do they 685 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: not catch this? How does he go then to hospice? 686 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: The hospice doctor doesn't catch this. Hospice was just not 687 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: to sign off on the cause death and doesn't even 688 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: include the strangulation marks. And I think to a lesser degree, 689 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: maybe the funeral home no one knows there. And all 690 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: the three of these subjects are named in the civil 691 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: suit that the family has against those entities, and that's 692 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: shoot scheduality. It is like, well, what happens if you 693 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: know my mom and dad live out of state, and 694 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: I see them, you know, once in a while. I 695 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: can't fly to wherever it is every weekend and go 696 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: see them or spend time it go as much as 697 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: I can, but you know, maybe they're in care, and 698 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: I've got to trust that that facility has their best 699 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: interest at heart. And then of course you have countless 700 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: elder people who don't have kids or family members anymore, 701 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: and so or the indigent for that matter. We start 702 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: to wonder how often this happens, because the problem with 703 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: healthcare right now, as you know, is that there's compassion fatigue, 704 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: there's burnout, there's high turnover, because well, it's got to 705 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: be about private equity coming in, and it's more about 706 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: how many patients you shoot, the money you're generating, how 707 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: much money make it not about quality care, not about 708 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: standard of care. And there's a fine line between profit 709 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: and exploiting patients. And I think, I don't know if 710 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: that's the case here, but that's the problem right now 711 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: in healthcare, one of the problems in healthcare. So you 712 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: should say it's a fascinating stuy and a tragic one 713 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: at that. And it's almost like literally you never see 714 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: this happening before. I mean, how many times they exoom 715 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: someone and it's murder? It sounds you you think it 716 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: probably happens more often, it doesn't. Extremely rare, and that 717 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: happened right here in Cincinnati, and it's a it's a 718 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: sobering case for sure. Anyway, we'll get into that sometime 719 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: next week on the show. But I just it's almost like, 720 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: you know, talking to Will Gance, it feels like almost 721 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: a Netflix show or sadly you know, date line or 722 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: something along those lines. Crazy. 723 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: Let me get a news update in. We'll get into 724 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: the Save Act that just passed, and did we actually. 725 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: Needed what to do? And more importantly, what the reason 726 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: why we pass something that's to prevent something that's not 727 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: happening in the first place. Will make sense of it 728 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 2: next after news on the Home of the Red seven 729 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: hundred WWT Cincinnati. You know what politicians love. 730 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: Questions with no answers are correct answers. Here's your choice 731 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: this issue about illegals voting. 732 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: You either look at it, here's your worldview, here's your choices. 733 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: You either see it as Democrats just want to legal 734 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: people to vote largely for them because they'll give them 735 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: free stuff, or you look at it as Republicans just 736 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: want to keep people from voting. Those are your choices. 737 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: It's an issue of ballot security versus ballot access. Scottsland here. 738 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: I bring this up because the House of Representatives have 739 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: just passed the Save America Act, and as you know, 740 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: that prevent non citizens from voting in US federal elections, 741 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: and this is an updated version of that, adding another 742 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: layer to the other layers and other layers, this time 743 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 2: requiring federal proof of citizenship in your voter registration photo 744 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: ID for federal elections and also information sharing between state 745 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: and federal authorities so they verify the citizens on the 746 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: voter roles, which I think it's a good stab. We 747 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: often talk about lack of communication between government agencies, state 748 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: and federal in particular, and this helps rectify that, so 749 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: the communication between agencies, between the people doing the bidding 750 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: for us that we send to represent us are actually 751 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 2: talking to each other. We just had a great example 752 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: of a failure of that yesterday with the whatever happened 753 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: in El Paso with the FAA and the military, and 754 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: we're going to shut down this airfield for ten days 755 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: and then an hour or two later, I never mind, 756 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 2: We're good. Wait, what what just happened here? How can 757 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: that happen? Because people don't talk to each other. So 758 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: the reality of this is that it's been illegal for 759 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: non citizens to vote in federal elections for over a century. 760 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: It's an old law. But the question that is, okay, well, 761 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: our legal people vote. Are our legals voting and elections? 762 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: What's the danger? And what's the data? Show what? Show 763 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: me numbers, show me proof? Okay, here are the facts. 764 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: So progressive thing tanks and researchers have studied the evidence 765 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: these are progressives and looked at almost twenty four million 766 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 2: votes and determine that. And by the way, they also 767 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: did a number and a sizable number disproportion number. That 768 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: research was in areas of high populations non citizens. Is 769 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: that important? And out of the roughly twenty three to 770 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 2: twenty four million, they found thirty instances of suspected not actual, 771 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: but suspected non citizen voting. So that's like point zero 772 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 2: zero zero one percent, very very small. Okay, but that's progressive. 773 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 2: What doesive conservatives say? Okay? Well, conservative watchdogs study data 774 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: and they found seventy instances of illegals voting since well 775 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: two thousand, so over twenty five years, so somewhere between 776 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: thirty and seventy out of a country of you know, 777 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 2: three hundred and forty million people. I'd say that's pretty statistically, 778 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 2: that's pretty good. They also said, and this is again 779 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: this from Heritage Foundation, pretty conservative. Many of those cases 780 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: were actually lawful permanent residents who were pulled by a 781 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: government official or a voting authority that they were eligible 782 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: and they weren't. So they asked, and they said, oh yeah, yeah, 783 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: you can vote in terms that they couldn't vote. So 784 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 2: number of those cases of a seventy so there's an even 785 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,479 Speaker 2: an astrois next to that. The fact of the matter 786 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 2: is whether you're left, right or independent, it doesn't happen. 787 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: Statistically speaking, it doesn't happen, and certainly not enough to 788 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: swing an election. Okay, and both the left and the 789 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: right know that's true. So how do you get to 790 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: how does this actually become a thing. Well, it's you know, 791 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: a great example of the politics of exaggeration and confirmation 792 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 2: by So you ask yourself, is the risk of non 793 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 2: citizen voting significant enough to justify more documentation requirements that 794 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 2: may make registration harder for eligible citizens. He said, you 795 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: know your answer, and the onset depends on which concern 796 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: you see how you see what your world view is. 797 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: Do you see fraud prevention as the real danger or 798 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 2: do you see voting assets is a real danger. And 799 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: it's either you know, Dems want oh the Democrats, they 800 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: want to legals to vote, it helps them, or oh 801 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: the dead and Republicans, you know, they just want to 802 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: prevent people of color, people poor people from voting. So 803 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: depending on world view, that's your answer. And is there 804 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 2: a right answer to this? 805 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: Not really, because I look at it, going okay, well, 806 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: very very few, I said, statistically insignificant number of people 807 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: are doing this, and I'm sure people a right now. 808 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: We oh yeah, what about well there's a case where 809 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 2: I get right. You know, you can find cases and go, well, 810 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: this person did this, Okay, but it doesn't mean it's 811 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: rampant and politicians are really good at well, it's not 812 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: just everyone's really good at that as cherry picking, finding 813 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: someone and going well, here's your example. Okay, that's one 814 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 2: person out of how many and if sometimes in a 815 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: lot of cases it's a legitimate error on the part 816 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 2: of the people who handle the elections telling someone they're 817 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: eligible when they can't. Now me personally, I look at 818 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: it going. I think it's good that the States and 819 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: the FEDS are sharing information and data on people and 820 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: you know, to make sure that people aren't legally voting. 821 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: And the penalties are very extreme, you know, they're very 822 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: severe for what's going on here. So is this a 823 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: solution and sort of a problem. It really isn't, because 824 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, this is a great, I guess example of 825 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 2: human nature and us as Americans, how we operate like 826 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 2: woll okay, there's really no threat here. But it depends 827 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: on what your worldview is. 828 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: There's plenty of people that think illegals are voting in 829 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: every election and overthrowing election and certainly doesn't help in 830 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: The President says, yeah, twenty twenty was completely fraudulent, even 831 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: though you know, people still believe that that it was, 832 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: and there's at this point no convincing you otherwise you 833 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: have your mind made up and everybody's part of the 834 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: conspiracy who doesn't buy into it. You know, it's been 835 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: it's been six years, and if we're still waiting for well, 836 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: the MyPillow guy, for example, give us all this ov 837 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: it's just not coming out. 838 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you didn't see that. 839 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I've I've looked at this stuff and 840 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: said in the courts of agreed, FBI's agreed. It's like okay, 841 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: and now that at this point, what does that get you. 842 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a conspiracy to fix the twenty 843 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: to ring, the twenty twenty election, Trump got back in, 844 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: powered down pretty much undid everything. 845 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: So you know, how did he win a second term? 846 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 2: If the system is rigged, I guess it'd be well, 847 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 2: guess it would be Okham's razor. 848 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 6: Right. 849 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: Generally, the simplest explanation is usually the right one that 850 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: you just simply lost. But nonetheless, I'm gonna look at 851 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: this in gocation. We have safe and secure elections like 852 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: the border. Absolutely, but you know the idea that that 853 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, immigrants are somehow out there voting in these 854 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: huge numbers, but it could happen, it could have I think, really, 855 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: what's going on here, and this is a Democrat proposal 856 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: that this is the backfiring of things that you push for, 857 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: you know, on your agenda. One of the what I 858 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: think one of the key things here is you look 859 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: at I forget how it's like twenty to twenty twenty 860 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: two states or something like that that allows motor voter registration. 861 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: I remember when that was a debate for a while. 862 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: So the law says in these states that motor vehicle offices, 863 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: so the DMV can allow people to register to vote. 864 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: You know, we have it. You can go in and 865 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: do that, and and okay, that's good. It's like it's 866 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 2: easy to register to vote. We want people engage in 867 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: the process. But you wonder how many of these cases 868 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 2: where someone who's a in the states. As I said 869 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: that the twenty states were roughly that allow undocumented immigrants 870 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 2: to get a driver's license, that they go in and 871 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: because they don't speak the language linguish is their second 872 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: language or third language, and may have misunderstood and you know, 873 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: in understand not moving here. Some I think there's some 874 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: people to think that they come here specifically to vote 875 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: so they can undermine our system. And you got out 876 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: of your mind. You think, if somebody's going to do that, 877 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: just why you move? Why are you doing this? Why 878 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: you come here and legally unite it so I can vote? Yeah, no, 879 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 2: probably not happening, But I see what would happen here 880 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: is if you have these easy to register to vote boxes, 881 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 2: and again it's an affirmation, it's a checkbox. You check 882 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: that box and falsely thinking yeah, would you like to vote? Sure, 883 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 2: I don't know what the law is. 884 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: I don't okay, yes, yes, yes, or maybe I misunderstood 885 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: it and you register to vote. I mean that could 886 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 1: that's a plausible scenario, right, but that is something that's 887 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: done in behast of that worldview that No, my god, 888 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: the Conservatives and Republicans are making it so hard for 889 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: people to vote. So all we have to do is 890 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: make it easier to register to vote. And when you 891 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: make something easier and lower that bar, things like this 892 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: may happen, which gives for their ammunition to go. We 893 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: have illegals voting when they really aren't. And so I think, 894 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, you want to talk about conspiracy theories. I 895 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: think there's a collusion going on here in a sense 896 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: that they know they just play the game. They're trying 897 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: to get you to see their side of things and 898 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: support them and send them money because and in time 899 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: you go your vote is you know how many times 900 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: if you're a democh at scream when they lose elections 901 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: about voter intimidation, voter suppression. 902 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: Why did you lose? 903 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: It's voter suppression. Now your candidate sucks. Hillary lost? Why 904 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: because voter suppression be suppressing your vote. Gotta get your asked, 905 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: get off your ass and vote. It's easier to vote 906 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: than ever before. We need more ballot access. It's pretty 907 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: much easy. 908 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: You can mail you you have a month to mail 909 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: your battlement. If you give a damn. It's easy af 910 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: to vote. I mean, what's the next step. You want 911 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 2: someone coming to your house saying, hey, who are you 912 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: gonna vote for. 913 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 8: It? 914 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: It's easy to vote. It used to be hard to vote. 915 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday. You gotta take the day off. You 916 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: gotta go wait in a line. Now you didn't have 917 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: all other stuff to do. There wasn't TikTok and Instagram 918 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: and you know three thousand streaming channels. You actually have 919 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: put the effort in back in the day. Gotta get 920 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: your car, get on the bus, whatever it is, go 921 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: down and vote. Now it comes to you couldn't be easier. 922 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be easier and better for that matter, so 923 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: you can do more research and actually be an informed voter. 924 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: Because you're doing it at home. You're not in a 925 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 2: box somewhere or the curtain, sweating it out, going feel 926 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: like you didn't study for the exam. You open that 927 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: thing up and go, what the hell question is this? 928 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 2: Start having that high school or college flat bath flashback 929 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: nightmare where you forgot to study for the final exam. 930 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: What the judges? What ballot issue is it? 931 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 5: Now? 932 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: You can just look it up on your phone before 933 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: you vote. It's great, so voter suppression, like the voter suppression. 934 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 2: And then the other side, of course, is screaming about, 935 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 2: you know, ballot integrity and the elections are stolen and okay, 936 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 2: where's the evidence? We really don't have any. But that's 937 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 2: the cycle we are. I mean, it's you know again, 938 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 2: the theme here on my show anyway, is just kind 939 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: of thinking for yourself a little bit. I'm not the 940 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm not no rocket surgeon, 941 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: but I kind of have a good idea when somebody's 942 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 2: blowing smoke up my butt, like, what's your agenda, what's 943 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: the bottle? What's the BS? Cut through the bsking me 944 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 2: the facts? We don't have a There isn't rampant illegal 945 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: voting going on, it's handfuls of people across the country. 946 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 2: And is it a growing threat? No, it looks to 947 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 2: me but pretty consistent. 948 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: If you look at the evidence from the progressive resources 949 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 1: and the conservative resources pretty much pretty close thirty between 950 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: thirty and seventy over twenty five years. It's pretty find 951 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: me a more convincing stat I don't think you can 952 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: find one. But should we make sure our elections are secure? 953 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 954 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 2: The argument though, is that you know, these two sides 955 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 2: battle and go, hey, we got to make it easier 956 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 2: because we've got to protect people from having their vote suppressed. Okay, 957 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 2: well it's really easy to vote right now. You can't 958 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 2: make it any easier. How do you balance that out? 959 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: Maybe this is not that well thought, is that, Okay, well, 960 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: we've got to have the state in the FEDS cross 961 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: check and make sure you are who you say you are, 962 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: and you've got to have more evidence than ever before. 963 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: And largely what it does, I think is when you 964 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: have these government battles like this are party battles, I 965 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 1: guess it just makes it harder to live your life. 966 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: And that's probably the source of a lot of our frustration, 967 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: is it's just such a in the older you get 968 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: it's true too. Because you're younger, you take it for 969 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: granted as this is the way it is. And when 970 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: you're older and you and you're younger now and you're 971 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 1: listening that, you're going, okay, it makes sense. What happens 972 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: is you see kind of thing ways the way things 973 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: used to be. It used to be simpler. 974 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 2: Things get more complicated, and in a lot of ways, 975 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 2: things get easier in some other ways. And you also 976 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 2: are a touch to some degree with I guess the 977 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 2: modern quote unquote modern way of doing things. That makes sense. 978 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 2: That's why it gets like old people get bitter about stuff. 979 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 2: It's like, it's, man, how hard is this? And you 980 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 2: go back in the day where your grandparents would go 981 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 2: to I don't know, the pharmacy, the apothecary, whatever it was. 982 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: It's like, I need a bottle of mess. Here you go. 983 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 2: Here's a bottle. It's got a cork in it. Now, okay, 984 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 2: I get the same medicine. And I got to push 985 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: down in a cap, but I got a twist, and 986 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 2: then there's cotton and then there's a foil thing on top, 987 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: and it's in the sealed cavern and I get to 988 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 2: get a welder to break the box open so I 989 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 2: can get this. And what a pain in the ass. 990 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 5: You know. 991 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 2: Back in the day, we just open up, take a 992 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 2: cork off. 993 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: Now I've got a It's like the Arosetta Stone here. 994 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 2: It's the way life always is. Though every generation has 995 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So I see this and go out. 996 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 2: It's more of a pain than about ever to vote 997 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 2: if you want a register to vote. But if you're 998 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 2: young and new to the country, you think that's just 999 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 2: the way it always is. And I guess you know, 1000 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 2: they're really good at just finding ways to This is 1001 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 2: a great divisive issue for the country because there is 1002 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: no there's no answer to this question. It's it's you know, 1003 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 2: it's a puzzle. You're either all about ballot security or 1004 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 2: you're all about ballot access, and there's no little ground 1005 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 2: on this thing, and politicians absolutely love that. That's why 1006 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: it is such an exploitative issue in my opinion. Anyway, 1007 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 2: let me get time out in and more to follow 1008 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 2: ten thirty six. Austin Pops and Austin Elmore from ESPN 1009 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty We talk some sports this week. I'm gonna 1010 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: ask him coming up we have the Olympics. We also 1011 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 2: have news Red's news. By the way, I think major 1012 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 2: League Baseball. I hear it's making some changes again anyways, 1013 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 2: tweak the rules. See what that is about. But Phil 1014 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 2: Castellini now is the man in charge of your Cincinnati 1015 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 2: Red Legs. How are you feeling about that? You know, 1016 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 2: Phil is not the most controversial guy in the world. 1017 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 2: But also there's some baggage with Phil Castellini and as 1018 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 2: the steward of our Red Legs, Now, how do we 1019 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 2: feel about that? We'll get into that with Austin in 1020 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 2: a few minutes. We also have some Olympics stuff going. 1021 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: I gotta cat touch on the Olympics though. You feel 1022 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 2: almost obligated to mention the Olympics, especially the Americans doing 1023 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: as well as we are too. And I saw somebody 1024 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 2: online it's just again back to the polarization, so stupid, 1025 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 2: like they show too much American stuff. Why why aren't 1026 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: you showing the rest of the world, you know, the 1027 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 2: globalist kind of feel. It's like, yeah, because it's NBC, 1028 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 2: it's America. I don't really I don't really care about 1029 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 2: another I don't really care about what France is doing. 1030 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 2: And figure skating right how the Latvian team is getting screwed. 1031 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 2: In hockey, I care about the USA, Like for me, 1032 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: it's a USA v Canada because you know, I love hockey. 1033 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 2: Hockey's my sport. 1034 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: And I enjoyed watching the men when when yesterday afternoon 1035 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: is kind of predicted h two two goals called off, 1036 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: which is extremely rare to do, but yeah, it's kind 1037 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: of it's kind of fun to watch. And then we 1038 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: got the guy. 1039 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 2: I don't really watch a lot of figure skating, but 1040 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 2: I will watch this guy try to hit a quad 1041 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 2: during the Olympics, which is I mean, that's never been 1042 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 2: done before and this this level of competition, so we've 1043 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 2: got that going on as well. I'm also, you know, 1044 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 2: the the least interesting sports in the Winter Games here, 1045 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 2: what is your most interesting and least interesting? Like if 1046 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 2: it were on, you'd stop and watch it, or if 1047 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 2: it came on going, I'm out. You know, for me, 1048 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 2: I'm not really big in a figure skating. I do 1049 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 2: want to see the guy hit the quad, but like 1050 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 2: the pairs and all that, I don't really care. Ski 1051 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 2: jumping I will always watch because there's just you You're 1052 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 2: waiting for peril. The agony of defeat. There's a new 1053 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,959 Speaker 2: one called scheme mountaineering, which I don't know. I'm gonna 1054 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: lean on the I'll check it out. I will check it. 1055 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,439 Speaker 2: I'll try it anyon once food drink in this case 1056 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 2: Olympics new event where they ski and mountain climb. Like 1057 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 2: what so the biathlon is skiing and shooting. This is 1058 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 2: skiing and then climbing the mountain your skiing, which skiing 1059 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 2: generally means you're going downhill. I don't know where the 1060 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 2: up part comes into it? Is that more like cross country? 1061 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 2: I just I don't think could you get any more 1062 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 2: events in Neil Winter Olympics involving skis? 1063 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: That's the That's the other thing I lose is always 1064 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,479 Speaker 1: going to miss this guy going down on a bobs flood. 1065 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, we've all done that. That is the 1066 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 2: most approachable sport I think in the Olympics. To me 1067 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 2: is I get on a flying saucer. I'm Clark Griswold. 1068 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,439 Speaker 2: I get on this thing, I go down an ice 1069 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: tube and if you were to you go There's how 1070 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 2: much danger is there? Really? You don't see a lot 1071 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 2: of wipeouts and crashes with the luge because the way 1072 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 2: it's DESI it seems like it's it's almost like bowling 1073 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 2: with the bumpers up. Kind of takes a little challenge away, 1074 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 2: But you know me, you're going pretty damn fast on 1075 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: that thing. Looks just looks it's something you'd want to try, right, 1076 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 2: Like everyone, I could do that. What do you do? 1077 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 2: You lie there and it just goes like Pinewood Derby. 1078 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 2: You just put on the traps. You're gone very approachable sport. Hey, 1079 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 2: we'll talk to Austin about that. I got Olympics, he 1080 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 2: got Red's got a little Bengals news. It's all on 1081 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 2: the way here on the Scott Salan Show Friday morning, 1082 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW Slody here on SEVENW I Heart Media 1083 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 2: and seven hundra WW Salukee Cincinnati's own Procter and Gamble. 1084 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 2: We'd like to recognize Alexandra Grout at P and G. 1085 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 2: She is doing, in the words of my good friend 1086 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 2: Tracy Jones, you're doing a great job, a great job 1087 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: over there, Alexandra Grout. I like grout, Austin, do you 1088 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: like grout? I do? Grout is nice. You're doing all 1089 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 2: You're doing a great job. 1090 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: Can I give a shout out. Yeah, Now, this person's 1091 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: name isn't on the list, but he's a he's a 1092 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: huge deal over there at P ANDG deal. Shout out 1093 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 1: to Gregory Elmore, my guy, your guy. Shout out the 1094 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: cousin Greg over a P. I was gonna say, brother, No, 1095 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm an only child, which explains a lot, don't you think? 1096 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yep, yep, well we're good. Stop. 1097 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll never forgive them. 1098 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 2: What did we do? Austin's here, he's sharming me. SPN 1099 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 2: fifty third is a show with Tony Pike at noon. 1100 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 2: Over there, they talk all sports usually. 1101 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: Usually, but I actually do want to bring up a 1102 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,760 Speaker 1: topic today that I just saw. Have you seen there's 1103 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: a bar in New York at Hell's Kitchen for AI 1104 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: girlfriends and boyfriends. So if you are someone who is 1105 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: dating an AI girlfriend or boyfriend, yeah, this bar is 1106 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: for you. I don't know the details yet, but they 1107 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: can bring your you basically bring your phone along for 1108 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: a romantic evening just in time for Valentine's Day. 1109 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 2: God helpless, I might have to talk about. 1110 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: But there's some lady, because I my current trajectory and 1111 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: path in life would suggest that this is a. 1112 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,720 Speaker 2: Place for me, robot romances. 1113 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna end up dating an AI something off 1114 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: of my phone, right if the current trajectory continues. 1115 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because the technology is amazing in the fake 1116 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 2: human being sector right now, between A right, you got AI. 1117 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 1: You've got those prosthetic sex partners of the sex dolls, right, 1118 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about those things. You put those 1119 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,760 Speaker 1: two together. Yeah, it's over, leave the house. Yeah, anyways, 1120 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 1: you want to talk about sports, Yeah, let's let's can 1121 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 1: we keep it out of the gutter? 1122 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 5: Yeah? All right. 1123 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 2: The Olympic village has officially exhausted in just seventy two 1124 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 2: hours their entire supply of condoms. Knew you were gonna 1125 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 2: do that. I knew you were gonna go there. 1126 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like we hear this every single time 1127 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: the Olympics come around, right, but they're just the condoms 1128 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 1: just fly off the shelves over there, they really do. 1129 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,720 Speaker 2: And you know, I can't help. 1130 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: But think of that one Norwegian fellow who admitted the 1131 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: cheating on his girlfriend when he won the medal, and 1132 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,479 Speaker 1: you know the backlash since then. Has that maybe led 1133 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 1: to more young ladies being in his dms? Or maybe 1134 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 1: some other fellow Olympians that have sought him out, and 1135 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: maybe he's using some of that the gold medal get 1136 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: you get get you know, it means money, right, like 1137 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: you get a decent chunk of money late anyway, it's 1138 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: just like, do you get more piece of the metal. 1139 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: Probably get this man, right. I think there are some 1140 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 1: people out there that want to check it off their list. 1141 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: Slept with a gold medalist. Yeah, I mean I'm not 1142 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,439 Speaker 1: above that, right yeah, and then your first pick would 1143 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 1: be the curlers swan get yours anyway. Yeah, so seventy 1144 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: I don't have a thing in the bug in the corner, 1145 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: you know the time, you know when they do the 1146 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: splits at the time, he's uh huh do that with 1147 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 1: the condoms? 1148 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 2: Sure, like this is ahead of these Olympics. I like that. Yeah, 1149 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 2: wait seven too, it's seventy eight condoms ahead of a record. 1150 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: It's almost like like that bar in Omaha for the 1151 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,479 Speaker 1: College World Series where they track the fans that drink 1152 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: the most shot, right right right, yeah. 1153 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 2: Same thing, same same technology, same technology. All right, Now 1154 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 2: that we have no listeners left, let's I do want 1155 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 2: to talk a little Olympics in just a second or two, 1156 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 2: because tonight. There's only one undefeated team in all of 1157 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 2: college basketballs correct, and that would be the Miami RedHawks 1158 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 2: tonight against Tom Brenneman's Ohio University Bobcats. The Ohio the 1159 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: aaii A Ohio University Bobcats tonight at Mallett. 1160 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: Big game, national television game on ESPN. That's a big 1161 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: deal for Miami, and I'm fascinated to see how as 1162 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: they go along and the pressure continues to mount, how 1163 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 1: do they respond Because they've had some close calls, They've 1164 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 1: had some games that you could argue they probably shouldn't 1165 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: have won, but they found a way to win them. 1166 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 2: And just at team because I agree very hard. 1167 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: I agree, and going up against a team like Ohio, 1168 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: that's a rivalry. That's the battle of the bricks right there. 1169 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: And sometimes when the pressure is mounting, and when the 1170 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: lights are on and you're on national TV, you start thinking, Okay, 1171 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: you're tighten up a little bit there, and I'm curious 1172 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: to see how it goes. But Travis Steel and his team, 1173 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they are one of the best offensive teams 1174 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: in the country, and when they're able to marry that 1175 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: with some consistent defense, it hasn't always been good, but 1176 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: some consistent defense. 1177 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 2: They're fun to. 1178 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: Watch man and with the Bobcats love to knock off 1179 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: Miami and be the team they lose the finals of 1180 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, as Tom Braden would say, ut. 1181 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 2: Red spring training schedule, we are underway in goodyear. February 1182 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 2: twenty first, So what is that? Today is the thirteenth, 1183 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 2: So how many times have you looked at the Reds 1184 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 2: spring training schedule? But a week from today it's real 1185 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 2: they start playing games. It's not real. Yeah, they're really 1186 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 2: playing those those are fake games. Yeah, but they're really 1187 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: playing another team. 1188 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: Yes, So well you'll hear the jingle their ads are 1189 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: on and that's I guess that's rights. 1190 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1191 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of gone fast that all 1192 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden we've we've you know, the new year 1193 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 1: happens in boom. We're right about to start having spring 1194 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: training baseball games. And what's interesting about the team to 1195 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: me is that they're not interesting. They're kind of boring. 1196 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: The most interesting parts of this spring training are who's 1197 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna hit second in the lineup and who's the backup 1198 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: second basement. Pretty Much every spot is accounted for. Now 1199 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna see how refreshing is that. Yeah, I know, 1200 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 1: and and I think Terry Frank Coon was talking about 1201 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: this on the Hot Stove earlier this week, where it's 1202 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: like sometimes you go into camp with a lot of 1203 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 1: questions and you find out you don't have the answers. Well, 1204 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: now you're going into camp with a lot of answers 1205 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: and you find out what questions need to be asked. 1206 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: And that's a good spot for this team to be in. 1207 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: I think, especially after the run that they went on 1208 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: last year, they've slightly improved offensively. 1209 00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot of ifs. There's a lot of if. 1210 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: This has happens, then this will be good all over 1211 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: that roster, guys like Spencer Steeer, guys like Matt McClain 1212 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,959 Speaker 1: most notably. But when most of the spots are taken 1213 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: up and you know who's going to be where just 1214 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: about every day and you've been there and been to 1215 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs with that group, I think that gives him 1216 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence. 1217 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's you know, the questions will pop up. 1218 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 2: Ces is a question now he is injured. Injury set 1219 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 2: back for him. Now, grant you only had two O 1220 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 2: six last year, there's only one trajectory for him hopefully, 1221 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 2: and that is up. Yeah, And Terry said, ah, you know, 1222 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 2: he's kind of running through it and we'll see what happens. 1223 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 2: But I've heard this before and say it's gonna happen 1224 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 2: with him, but it's like, next thing, you know, it's 1225 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 2: he's going to miss Opening Day. 1226 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he's going to make this team, 1227 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: so I don't know that it's that big of a deal. 1228 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: But he's one of those guys where it's like, hey, 1229 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: if he has a nice spring, he could be that 1230 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: dude at the end of the benches, the backup infield, right, 1231 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: And I was kind of hoping to see that because 1232 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of Reds fans would say that 1233 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: that Cees is a likable guy, a guy that you 1234 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: want to see succeed. But it just feels like that 1235 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: something's always happened once he gets to the big leagues 1236 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: and he can't overcome it. I remember last year he 1237 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: finally got to the big leagues, had that awesome walk 1238 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: off home run and we're thinking, okay, ces is back 1239 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: and he was back in the minor leagues a couple 1240 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: of weeks later, and he wasn't even with the Big 1241 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: League Club on Christian and Carnassio and Strand Bobblehead Night 1242 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: later that season. Right, So yeah, he's one of those guys. 1243 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: It does seem like he's only gonna miss a couple 1244 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: of games, a couple of the spring games. Say he's 1245 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 1: on a running program. So hopefully it's not something that last. 1246 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: Good good, all right. 1247 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: The big news out today sports wise, speaking of the Reds, 1248 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Phil Castellini taking helm over from his dad Bob in 1249 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 2: Red's Country and resignation. We look at this, go, okay, 1250 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 2: when Phil Casteli we know the track. Should we care? 1251 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Is this? Does it matter? 1252 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 6: Uh? 1253 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 1: I do think Reds fans should care because Phil Castellini 1254 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: has greatly and repeatedly offended Reds fans over the years. 1255 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: He's made you feel like crap, He's made you feel 1256 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 1: like you don't matter. And now officially he's the guy 1257 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: that's in charge. Now, I'm willing to give Phil Castellini 1258 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 1: a chance. And you could say that since he's been 1259 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 1: in charge, which really was at the end of last year, 1260 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 1: they did make a run at Kyle Schwarber. Whether it 1261 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: was a serious run or not, they did, and they 1262 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: did spend more than their allotted budget to go and 1263 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: get Auohenio Surez. So I'm hoping that that is a 1264 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: sign of things to come in the Phil Castellini regime. 1265 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of Reds fans would be 1266 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: justified in saying I have my doubts about that actually 1267 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: being the case. 1268 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 2: And here's the guy who just got booed not long 1269 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 2: ago e Xavier. 1270 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not liked and there are plenty of reasons 1271 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 1: not to like him. Now, I'm not surprised by this. 1272 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: Nobody should be surprised by this. Who knows what it's 1273 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 1: going to look like, especially next year when there probably 1274 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 1: won't be any baseball. But I'm willing to at least 1275 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: give Phil a chance now that he's the guy who's 1276 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: in charge. 1277 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 2: And I think that's fair. I wish I hope more 1278 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 2: of Reds fans do that, because can he turn that page? 1279 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 2: And because all you need to do is win, I 1280 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 2: mean go to the playoffs, but advance. Yeah, and it 1281 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 2: fixes everything. 1282 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Right, Like you know, it's that I always talk about this, 1283 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: that famous quote from Paul Brown that says winning makes 1284 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: believers of us all. Phil Castellini can change his image, 1285 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: can be a hero in this town if he commits 1286 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 1: to building a winning team and not a money making team, 1287 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: and that's up to him to decide. And I personally 1288 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: don't know if that's something that he cares about. I'm 1289 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: not sure if that's something that he really worries about. 1290 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Are you say that there's this team in Cincinnati cares 1291 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 2: more about money than winning. 1292 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a team in the world 1293 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: who cares more about money than winning, or who cares 1294 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: more about winning than money. 1295 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so well here it's maybe a little more more. 1296 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Trey Hendrickson franchise Tager Now, no, thank you, 1297 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 2: move on hard pass, Yeah, move on a thousand with that. 1298 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 2: It's just there's no need for it. Yeah. 1299 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they think there's only been seven players in the 1300 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: last ten years or so, or maybe in the last 1301 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: fifteen that have actually been traded once they've been tagged. 1302 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not going to be easy. It's younger, 1303 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 2: and let's face it, it's yeah good. 1304 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would then have to negotiate with the other team, 1305 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: with the agent with a come up with something that 1306 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: makes sense. 1307 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 2: I just don't know if that's seven games too. It's 1308 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 2: like it's tough to it's just just move on. 1309 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 6: FC. 1310 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 2: By the way, it's that time of year ready, It's 1311 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 2: like NASCAR Fokker, isn't that. It's like there's hardly any 1312 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 2: offseason they ended that, they've ended their preseason now and 1313 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 2: they're in that kunka concat. It just rolls off the tongue. 1314 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 2: Uh as they get ready to play and they've got 1315 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 2: some new pieces in there and they're still trying to 1316 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:26,919 Speaker 2: figure it out. 1317 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to see what it looks like because 1318 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 1: it feels like it's been kind of a quiet off 1319 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: season for f C Cincinnati and maybe not as much 1320 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 1: done as they expected. But the the part about their 1321 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: season that's so so interesting in their schedule and their 1322 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: calendar is that there's a lot of time between now 1323 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and the stretch run to really build up, figure out 1324 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: what you have, and then I think what they've been 1325 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: really good at the last couple of years is finding 1326 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: that piece, maybe not at the start of the season, 1327 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: but early on or at the midway point that can 1328 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: come in and give them that jolt going into the 1329 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: stretch run. Now the calendar's changing a little bit, we're 1330 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna learn about that a little bit more today with 1331 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Tom Glaider on our show and figure out exactly what 1332 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: that means and what the difference will be. But they've 1333 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: shown an ability in the past to figure out what 1334 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: they have and plug in the right piece to get 1335 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 1: them to the postseason. Okay, good, So FC is starting 1336 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: to get fired up as well. 1337 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 6: Now. 1338 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 2: No one embraces the sports culture and certainly the sports 1339 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 2: haberdasherie than one Austin Elmore a haberdashery. He is always 1340 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 2: the word I've never heard, always dripped up wearing Bengals 1341 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 2: reds Ohio State Michigan. He wears pretty much just wearing 1342 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 2: a hat usually. But you got you got a Jordan's 1343 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 2: a sweatshirt on right, a Cruise shirt, you got the 1344 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 2: Bengals flack m on. You look good. Thanks, You're always 1345 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 2: well dressed. Okay, thank you. So no one leans more 1346 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 2: into gear than you do, I would say Sarah at 1347 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 2: least does. She's a front runner though with it well, 1348 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 2: I mean no doubt. I mean now, all of a 1349 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 2: sudden she's a Miami fan. Yeah, I mean gratituate. It's 1350 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 2: like I thought she went all these years. I thought 1351 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 2: you went to UC Yeah, no kidding. So he's up. 1352 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 2: You see suck Now she's on the Miami bandwagon. 1353 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 6: Uh. 1354 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, what do you make of the FC Seven Hills kit? 1355 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 2: I was about to ask you, can you name the 1356 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 2: seven Hills of Cincinnati? Sure? Okay, go now, go ahead. 1357 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: Well, according to Google, who knows this is a I 1358 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 1: so Mount Adams. There's Mount Adams, You got Mount Auburn, 1359 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: you go, Anut Hills, Dopey, Vine Street Hill, College Hill, 1360 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: fair Mount, and Mount Harrison which is now Price Hill. 1361 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, anyways, where's Mount Harrison? They're sick. 1362 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 1: I think they're my favorite uniform that c Cincinnati's ever made, right, 1363 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 1: and that includes the ones that they made for us 1364 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 1: and brought to us last year. I mean, white with 1365 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: the orange stripes, just a beautiful look. Kits every year. 1366 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Across in my less phone, and they're the kind of 1367 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: what do you call the zigzag stripes only their vertical 1368 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 2: for the seven Hills and their seven peaks. It's really neat. Yeah. 1369 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: I love that sort of creativity. A couple of years 1370 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: ago they did the orange one and it was kind 1371 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 1: of based off of the river, which I thought was cool. Yeah, 1372 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 1: and I love that their their ability to just kind 1373 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: of incorporate the city and the different elements of the 1374 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: city into each other. 1375 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 2: I want to see like next to the because every 1376 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 2: year they do new kid, the one that has like 1377 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 2: a tribute to chili where it's just like they have 1378 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 2: sauce just all over the uniform, you know what I mean, 1379 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 2: in the front of it, like I ay chili. 1380 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 1: You know, the Reds are supposed to update their City 1381 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Connect uniform soon. And you know we've seen teams like 1382 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Milwaukee they had a grill on theirs because they asked 1383 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: them for tailgate and fast feats and all that stuff. 1384 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I do wonder if there will be, yeah, some sort 1385 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: of a chili aspect, the Chili Connect Jersey, the Chili Connect. 1386 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 2: How about that? 1387 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you could make a lot of mone you 1388 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: really really could, or if they did. Now, last year 1389 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox did a Chicago Bulls style uniform. 1390 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 2: Could the Reds make a little dough on some origin 1391 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 2: black all right? Perhaps? 1392 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 6: Like it? 1393 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 2: All right, we'll find out partner would make you buy 1394 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 2: the stuff anyway, all right? Quickly? Then Olympics was teased 1395 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 2: here where we're not talking about condoms, are actually talking 1396 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 2: about play as you know, I am sick, sick sick 1397 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 2: for the puck last night watching the US women's by 1398 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 2: the way, which I normally don't watch with hockey. I'll 1399 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 2: tell you what. They're fun to watch because they're fast. 1400 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 2: You think there's twenty of them out there. It's awesome. 1401 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,520 Speaker 2: They beat Canada five nothing. I saw it on Wednesday. 1402 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 2: I watched yesterday the US men's team. Kind of a 1403 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 2: slow start here. They won five two of Latvia two 1404 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 2: just allowed goes to the US men's team. But I'll 1405 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 2: tell you what you want to talk about, like a 1406 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 2: dream situation, because if you played hockey, generally played like 1407 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 2: on the street or in your backyard or pond or 1408 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 2: something like that somewhere, and you played with your friends 1409 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 2: and your brothers and stuff like that. In this game yesterday, 1410 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Brady could Chuck scored a goal and the pass his 1411 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 2: assistant was from his brother Matthew. It's really cool. It 1412 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 2: was so cool and those guys. 1413 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 1: I remember it was at last fall when they the 1414 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: four an Asians face off, and to see them playing together, 1415 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: and now they've taken the Olympic break for this, it's 1416 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 1: just really cool. 1417 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:51,440 Speaker 2: It's fun to see. 1418 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: It was a bad day yesterday to be a Latvian 1419 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: and the Columbus crew goalkeeper who got roughed up Elvis 1420 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: guy named Elvis and had to take him out. 1421 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 2: They said, Elvis is the building. 1422 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 1: They had like two thousand shots on this poor guy 1423 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 1: was fun but I get it. Yeah, all this is out. 1424 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 1: He was he was struggling, was just getting we'll see later. 1425 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Elf elve Elf, the Elf Columbus goalie. 1426 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but. 1427 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 1: The hottest team in the NHL prior to the break. 1428 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 1: So they probably won't win a game for three months. 1429 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 1: It could be because he's gonna be nursing a sore growing. 1430 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 1: That's what happened to those I've never seen a goalie 1431 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,600 Speaker 1: taking knee. I mean he was getting he was just 1432 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 1: getting peppered, just peppered. And Rich Rahonan I think I'm 1433 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: saying the name right. The oldest Winter Olympian. They lost, 1434 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 1: the Americans lost of Switzerland. But a curler fifty four 1435 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 1: years old, the. 1436 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Oldest Olympians fifty medal. I don't think he's a medal event. 1437 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:58,600 Speaker 2: He took part in the Americans eight three loss of Switzerland. Loser. Yeah, but. 1438 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: That's the best old guys out there. Yeah, that's all right, 1439 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. How excited that you don't have 1440 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: to worry, don't have to worry about the condoms looking 1441 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 1: at mine? How excited are you for the NBA All 1442 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 1: Star Weekend coming up this week? I am not excited 1443 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 1: at all. Me neither used to be the best weekend 1444 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 1: of my childhood. I might have to get more in 1445 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 1: the NBA. I really want to. 1446 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,719 Speaker 2: I just like I have time to watch. 1447 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 1: I watch them like it's fun. I just never have 1448 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 1: a hot take. Lebron James legacy is that he killed 1449 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: All Star Weekend. I won't participate in the dunk contest. 1450 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,879 Speaker 2: Real quick. Olympic I wanted to ask you this, Yes, yes, 1451 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 2: least and most interesting sport Winter Olympics go least interesting 1452 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 2: I think is the loge really yeah? I think that's 1453 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 2: kind of boring. 1454 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 1: And then most interesting to me personally probably the curly, 1455 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,719 Speaker 1: just because it feels, I'm that really intense. Everyone seems 1456 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 1: to be dialed into the curly. 1457 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 2: That should be a question. What's guilty pleasure? Curling? Downhill 1458 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 2: skating is fun though, that's like that is risky. I'm 1459 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 2: not I'm not a big figure skating. I want to 1460 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 2: see the quad. God though, that that looks really cool. Yeah, 1461 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,799 Speaker 2: apparently tonight big night for him. That's pretty good. Obviously, 1462 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:16,800 Speaker 2: hockey's number one for me. 1463 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: But I used to really like speed skating back with 1464 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: your buddy Apolo Antonoo. Yeah, I mean those those skates 1465 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: that they wear. Yeah, you know what, I would change 1466 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 1: my answer. That's the most interesting, all right. That's I 1467 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 1: was watching the five thousand meter yesterday. Yeah, I mean 1468 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 1: that takes some serious it really does. It does skeleton, 1469 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 1: which is a belly down sled. I mean it's like 1470 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: I watch it and go I watch it because it's 1471 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,599 Speaker 1: like WestEd do it in the back. 1472 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,679 Speaker 2: Are you know? Yeah? Yeah, just become a mystique. Rowe 1473 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 2: by the way, US athlete. She hates roller coasters and 1474 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 2: is allergic to ice, she says, and she is our 1475 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 2: representing us on the sky. How did you get to 1476 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 2: where you are? I don't know. It's a great thing. 1477 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 2: I just want to watch it to see. 1478 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 1: That's as good of a story as Lindsay Vaughn. She 1479 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 1: overcame the elements. 1480 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,640 Speaker 2: I gotta get going Austin Almore today new and I 1481 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 2: EESPN fifty to thirty, Thank you, thank you shot or 1482 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 2: from now Willy is here and I'm sure either he 1483 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 2: or I don't know if it's Dan Carroll or Canbers. Anyway, 1484 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 2: they'll be complaining about why why the bath the Olympics 1485 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 2: is alonging biathletes and the biathlon, speaking of fifty four 1486 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 2: year old Olympians, got to explain to him to the 1487 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 2: biathlon is not what he thinks it is. 1488 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:23,879 Speaker 9: Seven hundred WW. Cincinnati got flown back on seven hundred WW. 1489 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 9: So what is a Christian? Hey, what what's a Christian? 1490 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 9: Most people answer, well, someone who believes in Christ. Dummy, Yeah, 1491 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,800 Speaker 9: but that's not really the whole answer. It's simply not 1492 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 9: just self identification. 1493 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 2: It's really if you are a Christian, the definition would 1494 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 2: be someone who has a complete commitment to Christ. And 1495 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 2: that's where we have a bite a problem. The cafeteria 1496 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 2: Catholic comes to mind, the cultural Christian. Of course, all 1497 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,560 Speaker 2: this then impacts what things like our election one of 1498 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 2: the reasons Trump got won and he did really, really 1499 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 2: really well, so much better than Democrats traditionally do, but 1500 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,760 Speaker 2: especially in this cycle with Christian conservatives, those on the 1501 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 2: far right, and and there's a problem of the cultural Christian, 1502 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 2: and that is someone well we'll get the definition of 1503 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,919 Speaker 2: what that is. Maybe you are that person. John Horvett 1504 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 2: is a religious scholar, researcher, educator and this joins the 1505 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,600 Speaker 2: show now to talk about it on seven hundred W 1506 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 2: Dowty John, good morning, how are you. 1507 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,519 Speaker 4: Good morning, Great to be on the show. 1508 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So define that. What is a cultural Christian is 1509 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,639 Speaker 2: that like a cafeteria Catholic is what we call them 1510 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 2: here in heavily Catholic Cincinnati. Someone who shows up for 1511 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 2: Easter and Christmas Mass, the Creasers and then you know 1512 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 2: pretty much does their own things. Has you know, white 1513 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,760 Speaker 2: spouses on birth control, you know all the things that 1514 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 2: you told you are not supposed to do. That's cafe 1515 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,120 Speaker 2: deia Catholic. It's the same thing. 1516 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 4: No, No, it's it's even much less much much less. 1517 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 4: You don't have to really do anything. You don't have 1518 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 4: to go to church, you don't have to believe in God, 1519 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 4: you don't have to believe in it anything. All you 1520 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 4: have to do is identify, I recognize the value of 1521 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 4: some Christian cultural thing. It's something that's nice that you enjoy, 1522 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 4: but has nothing actually to do with accepting Christ or 1523 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:04,440 Speaker 4: having faith in Christ or anything having to do with Christianity. 1524 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 4: As it's it turns religion into a culture identity marker. 1525 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's just how identify myself, and you know, 1526 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 4: it has it's a lot of the trapping, but when 1527 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 4: you try to dig deep inside, there's really nothing there. 1528 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,639 Speaker 2: Well, And the reason I bring this up is because 1529 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 2: I think that was reflected in this election. There's a 1530 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 2: lot of people that seem to be what you're defining 1531 01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 2: as a cultural Christian here that is like I look 1532 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,840 Speaker 2: at it and go, yeah, that's really not what Christ 1533 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 2: taught or what the belief of Christian is. But I 1534 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,640 Speaker 2: damn it, I'm I'm a Christian and I'm going to 1535 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 2: vote for well in this case, to President Trump, I 1536 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 2: think he did really really well with a cultural conservatives 1537 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 2: or cultural Christians you're. 1538 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,599 Speaker 4: Talking about, yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely you have some 1539 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,600 Speaker 4: overlaps there, but I mean we're talking like people like 1540 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,679 Speaker 4: Ellen Loss, Ellen Moss, Ellen Mosk. He is a self 1541 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 4: identified Christian book cultural Christian, whereby he doesn't have anything there. 1542 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 4: I mean, his life doesn't follow a moral code. It's 1543 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 4: just a very it's a very feel good thing. It 1544 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 4: certainly you know, it plays well on media, but it 1545 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 4: doesn't really have that that that's that uh that that 1546 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 4: depth that makes Christianity so powerful. It's just a stripped 1547 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 4: down version. 1548 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,679 Speaker 2: Well, I have a problem with Christians that are dictating 1549 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 2: what our policies are. These these folks have absolutely no 1550 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,680 Speaker 2: idea what Christian and mere being Christian means. And it's 1551 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,600 Speaker 2: a for those who are true Christians. It's a commitment 1552 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 2: and it's you know you are You're only answering to 1553 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 2: your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. There's no one else 1554 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,000 Speaker 2: there do you answer to. Now, you obviously, like anyone else, 1555 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 2: have certain things that you would favor, to be sure, 1556 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 2: but most people aren't making that commitment that you're talking. 1557 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 4: About, right exactly. I mean you have people like Joe 1558 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 4: Rogan who says I like Jesus and now he becomes 1559 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 4: a critic cultural Christian. You have people like Vive Karamasami 1560 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 4: who says God is real and he's not even he's 1561 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 4: a Hindu. I mean, it's just it's just crazy. How 1562 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 4: you know the media picks up on something, you make 1563 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 4: a comment or statement, and you've become a cultural Christian. Uh. 1564 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 4: You know, our face is much worth, much much more 1565 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 4: than that and much more powerful when we believe in 1566 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,479 Speaker 4: something and we we we practice Gods law. You know, 1567 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,160 Speaker 4: it's just a very important distinction. And these people are 1568 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 4: getting a lot of you know, getting a lot of press, 1569 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 4: they're getting a lot of uh, you know, credit for 1570 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:32,600 Speaker 4: something that they really don't have. 1571 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the problem. There is no universal agreement 1572 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 2: on who has the authority to define a Christian. There's 1573 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,760 Speaker 2: no true Christian identity. It's a It's certainly been an 1574 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 2: ongoing theological and philosophical debate longer than we've been here, 1575 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 2: longer than when we leave it this earth. That there 1576 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,840 Speaker 2: are different Christian traditions that have different answer that question, 1577 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 2: and even within those sects there can be debate about 1578 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 2: what constitutes authentic Christian identity. So if you can't have 1579 01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 2: a source, as it were, on what truly makes up 1580 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 2: a Christian, who are you to say, John Horrovett, Well, I. 1581 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,679 Speaker 4: Mean that is that is the point. It's not a Christian. 1582 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 4: We're not debating whether a person is Christian or not. 1583 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 4: It's just cultural Christians. They want to put Christianity into 1584 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,759 Speaker 4: a box and say it it's just part of culture. 1585 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter what you know, what you really are. 1586 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 4: Just keep it cultural and don't make it religious. And 1587 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 4: we'll be it will be all right with that. And 1588 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 4: I think that's where the big problem is. Just a 1589 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 4: vague sympathy for Christianity makes you Christian. It doesn't, obviously doesn't. 1590 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 4: And these people would probably be the first to say 1591 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 4: we're not Christian. But there's for example, Christopher Dawkins, excuse me, 1592 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,560 Speaker 4: Richard Dawkins. He said he's an atheist, but he identifies 1593 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 4: as a cultural Christian because he says, you know, the 1594 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,920 Speaker 4: culture has some nice things in it that you know 1595 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 4: has done, has done some good. Obviously, he doesn't want 1596 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 4: to be a Christian. He's just a cultural Christian. And 1597 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 4: and that causes a lot of confusion. And you know, 1598 01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 4: that's that's where I think the danger is. 1599 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 2: Who doesn't like I mean, Baby Jesus Land and the Manger. 1600 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 2: You've got, the frankincense, You've got the Mystery of the Chair, 1601 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 2: You've got you know, who doesn't like Christmas? Or crying 1602 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 2: out loud. I a friend, good friend of mine who's 1603 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 2: Jewish his whole life. He's put up a Christmas tree 1604 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 2: because he likes Christmas trees. 1605 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to be the first to say he's 1606 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 4: not a Christian. In these particular. You know figures are 1607 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:26,480 Speaker 4: you know, they're they're living on the they display the trappings, 1608 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 4: but they don't walk the walk. 1609 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 2: Is that so what's the damage? 1610 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 5: Then? 1611 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 2: Does that offend you? Because you're you're putting the I mean, 1612 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 2: you're putting the work in. You're going damn it. These 1613 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 2: people are getting credit for I'm working really hard to 1614 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 2: be a Christian here and these folks say there, but 1615 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 2: they're really not. Is that like more offensive to you 1616 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 2: than what's the damage? 1617 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 5: Lowers? 1618 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,880 Speaker 4: It lowers the bar and makes it makes you know, 1619 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,720 Speaker 4: Christianity something that makes it makes it a cultural thing, 1620 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 4: which for me is not a cultural thing. And I 1621 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 4: don't want to be put in that box. I think 1622 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 4: it it takes away from our the power of our message. 1623 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 4: I just think calling it something cultural and giving the 1624 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:02,879 Speaker 4: idea it is something cultural. 1625 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, Jim, I'll push back a 1626 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 2: little on Meko. Like John Mellencamp said, ain't that America. 1627 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 2: We take everything in debase it in our culture. We 1628 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:16,680 Speaker 2: take food, we take we we misappropriate things, and we 1629 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 2: twist it to our liking. Because we're Americans. We're the 1630 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 2: great melting pot and we unlike many countries have that 1631 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 2: going for still, where people from different nations come in, 1632 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 2: they assimilate, and we take their cultural gifts and we change. 1633 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm Italian, and you know the idea putting 1634 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 2: a ravioli in a can is offensive to a lot 1635 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 2: of Italians. But you know, God bless chef boy or 1636 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 2: d from Cleveland, Ohio who made a fortune in a 1637 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 2: household name overtaking Raviolian sticking a can Now it's sending 1638 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 2: close to real ravioli. But you can take that and 1639 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 2: do that with any culture and any religion and you 1640 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 2: have the same thing. And that is what America does. 1641 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 2: We take something and we homogenize it. 1642 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,519 Speaker 4: Definitely, you have that aspect that doesn't it doesn't detract 1643 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 4: from the fact that those those those real things do 1644 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 4: exist and are very important in life people and very 1645 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 4: important the lives of a culture to to you know, 1646 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 4: to proclaim a Christianity and to disregard the moral codes 1647 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 4: that go along with it. You know, it's a based 1648 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 4: It does debate that, and Christians have a right to 1649 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 4: fight back and say, no, that's not what I stand for. 1650 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,919 Speaker 4: You're you're completely misrepresented it. I mean, that's also very American, 1651 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,719 Speaker 4: is too right to get to get into these debates. 1652 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about people who would never otherwise engage, 1653 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,599 Speaker 2: but say, yeah, I just kind of identify with it. 1654 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 2: I also have a problem and this is going to 1655 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 2: piss a lot of people off, and I love it. 1656 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 2: It seems like the people who scream the loudest and 1657 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 2: show the rest of the world they are one hundred 1658 01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 2: percent about Christ almost always aren't. Uh, And I'm talking 1659 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,479 Speaker 2: about fake Christians? Is that you know, the well the 1660 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 2: cross and all the shirt, listen to the music even 1661 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,160 Speaker 2: though it's not that good. I'm not talking about like 1662 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,200 Speaker 2: you know, pop and Christian rock for example, and just 1663 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 2: because that's our culture because they but you know, behind 1664 01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,559 Speaker 2: the scenes, they're probably not as Christian as they would 1665 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 2: profess and project. Is that a problem as well? Is 1666 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:02,519 Speaker 2: that the same thing? 1667 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 4: Well, definitely not, because at least these people profess that 1668 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 4: faith and are trying. You know, these are people who 1669 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 4: have you know, who really have nothing to do with 1670 01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 4: the faith and are passed off as the faith. You know, 1671 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,760 Speaker 4: gets people like Jordan Peterson, who is a complete atheist, 1672 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 4: you know, he's a cultural Christian, or you know Richard 1673 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 4: Dawkins or or you know, just these these these figures, 1674 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,559 Speaker 4: these pop figures that are are just turning, you know, 1675 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 4: religion into a cultural identity identity marker and then and 1676 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 4: taking away from the actual powerful message that it's actually 1677 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:37,439 Speaker 4: actually there. 1678 01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I guess maybe because I've known a 1679 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 2: few people like what I was talking about there, and 1680 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 2: I've I've seen it firsthand. You know, go to a restaurant. 1681 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 1: Instead of leaving the tip, they leave a you know, 1682 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 1: some message about Jesus on this. 1683 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 2: Well, you had at a restaurant, you're expected to tip for 1684 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:51,840 Speaker 2: the service here. 1685 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 1: That's telling somebody about Jesus. 1686 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 2: Isn't exactly currency, right it. Those are the people I 1687 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 2: have a problem with, quite honestly, because then you hear 1688 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 2: stories where they're, oh, yeah, well they also happen to 1689 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,719 Speaker 2: be embezzling money from the church or they're taking money 1690 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,559 Speaker 2: from this because they think they're entitled to it because 1691 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 2: they are so Christian. And I guess that's two sides 1692 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 2: of the same coin. Jim Horvat is here, our John 1693 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 2: Horvat rather is here as religious scholar, researcher, educator, return 1694 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 2: to orders the book. We're talking about the emergence of 1695 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,639 Speaker 2: the cultural Christian and that is someone who says, yeah, 1696 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 2: I kind of like Christianity, but is really not a 1697 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 2: Christian and what impacts And we've seen that in election certainly, 1698 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 2: and the impact of the cultural Christian and kind of 1699 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,880 Speaker 2: debasing that one of the things that make up the 1700 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 2: core belief is a Christian here in America anyway, I 1701 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 2: don't know about other countries, but for a number of 1702 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 2: years and right now it's been this way for a while. 1703 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 2: Abortion seems to be the one issue for Christians. And 1704 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:44,800 Speaker 2: there's a lot of issues I can think of too 1705 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 2: that are big and important. But why did we get 1706 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,679 Speaker 2: to the point where abortion equals Christianity or I guess 1707 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,600 Speaker 2: anti abortion equals Christianity. 1708 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 4: It's a litmus point because obviously it is part of 1709 01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 4: the moral code. I mean, the tech commandments, the fist commandment, 1710 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 4: shad not kill, you know, it's very very clear. And 1711 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,280 Speaker 4: the belief in the in the that we are, you know, 1712 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 4: beings made an image and likeness to God, and that 1713 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 4: to destroy a human being in any in any point 1714 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 4: of its development will eventually. 1715 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,639 Speaker 5: To two worst things. 1716 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 4: So I think it's a it's a valid point. And 1717 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,959 Speaker 4: of course, you know, the cultural Christian would just sideline 1718 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 4: those kinds of things just as well. Those things aren't important, 1719 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 4: you know, the only thing important is that well. 1720 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 2: But I guess my point of that, John too, is 1721 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 2: that if you look back in history, for example, today, 1722 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,479 Speaker 2: it's it's very very clear what the Christian doctorate is 1723 01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 2: towards abortion, But if you go back to the what 1724 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 2: eighteen hundred and nineteenth century, it would be they're Christian leaders. 1725 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,960 Speaker 2: Some opposed abortion, but most said nothing about it. They 1726 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 2: looked at as a private decision. Most Protestants were pretty 1727 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,840 Speaker 2: nuanced about it, saying it was a private matter, and 1728 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,000 Speaker 2: that went all the way through even the nineteen fifties. 1729 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,519 Speaker 2: Christian religious identity and anti abortion activism came out largely 1730 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 2: in the seven and these as a political tool by 1731 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:07,680 Speaker 2: the Republicans. The Southern Baptists. Southern Baptist supported abortions up 1732 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,600 Speaker 2: in the end of the nineteen seventies, but near the 1733 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 2: end of the decade, in the eighties and the Reagan Revolution, 1734 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,639 Speaker 2: they went absolutely in the other direction. 1735 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,120 Speaker 4: I mean, abortion is an hypocritic ghost of the from 1736 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,240 Speaker 4: the Greeks. It goes back to the Greeks. You know, 1737 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,799 Speaker 4: you do not commit abortion. It's not something just recent 1738 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:26,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it's always been. 1739 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,680 Speaker 2: Not according to these not according to the church, as 1740 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 2: I just mentioned. And that's the thing is, you know, 1741 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 2: we're back to who decides what makes a Christian? And 1742 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,679 Speaker 2: I would say, certainly a Southern Baptists are Christians, Protestants 1743 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 2: are Christians, Catholics are Christians. But it wasn't until the 1744 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,280 Speaker 2: early nineteen eighties that abortion became the issue is today. 1745 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,640 Speaker 2: If religion is about tradition, when we go back in 1746 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 2: time to the dawn of time in. 1747 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,720 Speaker 4: The sixties, I know what the abortion issue was, OK, 1748 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 4: very hot back then, and it's been been a hot 1749 01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 4: issue because but it wasn't a hot issue because most 1750 01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 4: people did practice it. It was it was against the law. 1751 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,759 Speaker 4: So I mean it is obviously is not an issue 1752 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 4: if something's against the law. It was something very clandestine, 1753 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,240 Speaker 4: but it was it was always it was always considered 1754 01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,439 Speaker 4: against the law. Yeah, but at least from my Catholic tradition, 1755 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 4: I can see that. 1756 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not necessarily talking about Catholics in Generalrey, 1757 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,479 Speaker 2: We're talking about Christians as a whole here. And it's 1758 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 2: just interesting the shift that came in the nineteen eighties 1759 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 2: because prior to that they're like, Okay, well it's a 1760 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 2: private thing, and not that the Catholic Catholic Church was 1761 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,760 Speaker 2: certainly against that, and great point that it was that 1762 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,800 Speaker 2: it was illegal. But you know, there are plenty of 1763 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 2: Catholics and Christians that had backroom abortions. Some of them 1764 01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 2: didn't turn out well, but it wasn't n till it 1765 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,920 Speaker 2: was politicized, I guess, to the nineteen eighties. It's really 1766 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 2: became such the issue that is today where there's absolutely 1767 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,479 Speaker 2: no wavering out whatsoever. 1768 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can't mean, you can't take the 1769 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,560 Speaker 4: life of a human being. And that's that's a big problem. 1770 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 2: John Horbad on the show this morning on seven hundred 1771 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,040 Speaker 2: WW the rise of the cultural Christian we're talking about 1772 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 2: here too, and what about the societal impact on that. 1773 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,680 Speaker 2: I know you you certainly are a devout Christian, and 1774 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,200 Speaker 2: I think maybe this is personal for you, because yeah, 1775 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,880 Speaker 2: it's kind of like saying, who is the biggest Bengal fan? Right, 1776 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,639 Speaker 2: you couldn't have made that until you're blue in the face. 1777 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,240 Speaker 2: There's no way to measure it. I think that's the 1778 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 2: problem and a lot of people, unfortunately, as I mentioned, 1779 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 2: with the fake Christians that I've seen tend to measure 1780 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,760 Speaker 2: the more outward, the more you know, crosses that they wear, 1781 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,000 Speaker 2: and bumper stickers that they have, and shirts and hats 1782 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,080 Speaker 2: that they have that they tend to yell more loudly 1783 01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,639 Speaker 2: than most chriss I think the most christ Like people 1784 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,400 Speaker 2: that I know in my life, and I'm talking about 1785 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 2: people who are there to serve God and no one else, 1786 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 2: they tend to not be as forward with their belief 1787 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 2: as some. 1788 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,320 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you're obliged to witness to the faith. 1789 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 4: How you how you manifest itself. So I mean it's 1790 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,719 Speaker 4: not if you're hiding it. You have to absolutely show 1791 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,479 Speaker 4: it and defend the faith when it is attacked in 1792 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 4: the even in the public square. So I mean, it 1793 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 4: is how you do it. It's it depends upon you. 1794 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,120 Speaker 4: There are there are people and sinners who do it 1795 01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,479 Speaker 4: do it in ways it's obviously I would agree with. 1796 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,719 Speaker 4: But uh, the the cultural Christian is is someone who 1797 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,679 Speaker 4: was who just takes the bacon de lucids and even 1798 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,320 Speaker 4: goes contrary to it. I mean, you see a lot 1799 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,720 Speaker 4: of you see this in a lot of these very 1800 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 4: what they call hard right movements in Europe. You know, 1801 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 4: the the idea the alternatives for deutsch Land. You know, 1802 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 4: that's one of the big super rightous ones. They're cultural Christians. 1803 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,760 Speaker 4: They're they there, they have they have a lot of externals. 1804 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 4: But you look at their philosophies and there's someone to say, 1805 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 4: we're open openly pagans. We go back to our German mythology. 1806 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,760 Speaker 4: You look at the National Rally Party of France. You 1807 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 4: know they say that they with marine lapen. 1808 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:42,800 Speaker 7: Uh. 1809 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,160 Speaker 4: You know, they're being castigated as being super you know, 1810 01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,600 Speaker 4: super Christian. But if you look at their philosophies and 1811 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,799 Speaker 4: there and they also are pagan and they also uh 1812 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 4: you know, have very very strange ideas and they will 1813 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 4: defend of positions that in no way are defendable by Christians. 1814 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you are the silent majority and 1815 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 2: maybe that's majority of assilent minority when it comes to 1816 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 2: the faith, because you're very obviously very strong in that too, 1817 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,000 Speaker 2: and you'll profess it. But you know, we're like anything 1818 01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,360 Speaker 2: is the damage is done because it's become so homogeneous 1819 01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 2: that people just latch onto something cool and go, oh yeah, 1820 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm part of that group. I'm like, it's like being 1821 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,160 Speaker 2: a swiftye almost John Horvite, appreciate the time. Thanks so 1822 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 2: much for joining the show this morning. 1823 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 4: Really interesting, all right, great being on the show. 1824 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,240 Speaker 2: Thanks again for coming back on. As we get closer 1825 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,639 Speaker 2: to the high holy season here with lent fast approaching, 1826 01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm about to time out. News on the way in 1827 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,800 Speaker 2: just minutes, and of course we get the weekend rolling 1828 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,719 Speaker 2: with Ali Martin Local Loop. What to eat, drink, see 1829 01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 2: and do this weekend in Cincinnati with the weather warming up, 1830 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,679 Speaker 2: Gonna be nice for Valentine's Day tomorrow for sure. Scott 1831 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 2: Sloan Show, seven hundred WLW. The weekends coming on and 1832 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,560 Speaker 2: you need to make the most of that. Where to 1833 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:56,760 Speaker 2: go and what to do? 1834 01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,599 Speaker 3: She has that two percent insight to help you make 1835 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 3: it us super weekend, So listen up. 1836 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,360 Speaker 5: This is the Local Loop with Allie Martin on seven 1837 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 5: hundred w l W. 1838 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? Good morning, Thank you my new 1839 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 2: favorite person in the world. 1840 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 8: You are looking just so damn for this morning. 1841 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,000 Speaker 2: And I know Allie last week she brought me this 1842 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 2: sweatshirt that. 1843 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 7: Says Buffalo Bengals and it's like a mash up of 1844 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,680 Speaker 7: the logos blended in Yeah, and it's a great sweatshirtshirt 1845 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,040 Speaker 7: and it looks so good. 1846 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:26,800 Speaker 2: It fits good. 1847 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 8: Right, We went back and forth like are you a 1848 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:30,840 Speaker 8: larger large? 1849 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,679 Speaker 2: And we made it and excel top and but it's 1850 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:35,679 Speaker 2: like it fit great. 1851 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 7: And it's long, but it's narrow. It doesn't make you 1852 01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,040 Speaker 7: look like a potato? 1853 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 6: Right? 1854 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,160 Speaker 2: Where did you get it again? 1855 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 7: Actually, my friend, so it was a mutual friend, bought 1856 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 7: it for another friend and I'm like, I know them. 1857 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,560 Speaker 7: Another person who needs this sweatshirt. 1858 01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 2: There's two Buffalo bills. I'm sorry, Buffalo Bengals sweatshirts in Cincinnati, 1859 01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 2: and I have one of them. 1860 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,080 Speaker 8: So I think I think a lot of people would 1861 01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:58,560 Speaker 8: love it. 1862 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,280 Speaker 2: All right, well, put it up on your you should 1863 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,479 Speaker 2: sign her social at Allie martin Ate. And of course 1864 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 2: YouTube is a good drama to the whole episode on sweatshirts. 1865 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 2: What's going on Local Loop this morning? So what's it? 1866 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 2: Finally this time next week is gonna be seventy, which 1867 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:11,920 Speaker 2: is so Cincinnati. 1868 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,559 Speaker 7: I mean, heck, today's Friday, the thirteenth Valentine's Days, this weekend, 1869 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 7: this whole celebration's Marty Grass coming up. You missed a 1870 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,799 Speaker 7: fantastic Gallantine's paint and sip with tiff. 1871 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry I missed that. 1872 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,679 Speaker 8: Actually it was a really good time. Did I paint much? 1873 01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 8: Of course not. But I was there for the espresso 1874 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,680 Speaker 8: martini and vibes Gallantine? 1875 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 2: How many? How many people showed up to this? How many? 1876 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 8: It was a packed house? I mean yeah, yeah, she 1877 01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:37,760 Speaker 8: pretty much sold out, which was great. 1878 01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 7: A got a cute little spot called Frankie So if 1879 01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 7: you're looking for something a new place to check out, 1880 01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 7: Frankie's off Court Street is a good little spot. They 1881 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,679 Speaker 7: have killer aspresso Martini's. So we went from the sound 1882 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 7: bath to the paint and sip, which then we can't 1883 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,360 Speaker 7: forget because then I found out last week that you 1884 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 7: don't like asmr So that. 1885 01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're whispering out is pissing me off. I 1886 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,400 Speaker 2: don't whisper man, I don't like amna whisper. 1887 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,080 Speaker 8: That's an abusive power rude. 1888 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,880 Speaker 2: What I gotta be nicer? She got my shirt? 1889 01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,479 Speaker 1: Is it possible for women, right, okay, to just go, hey, 1890 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,879 Speaker 1: let's go have a drink, Let's go have a that's good, let's. 1891 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 2: Just go have it. Why you've got to always do stuff? 1892 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,599 Speaker 2: You can't just have a drink you have to either 1893 01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,720 Speaker 2: shop and buy stuff you don't need. 1894 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,920 Speaker 1: You got gourmet products, you got dildoze, you got all 1895 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 1: these things, or you go and I got Okay, So 1896 01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:36,880 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Yeah, I'm gonna get a 1897 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,960 Speaker 1: bottle of wine with my gal pals and we're gonna paint. 1898 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,680 Speaker 2: You're not, but why not? 1899 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:44,519 Speaker 8: Why not? And also can't you. 1900 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 6: Just have a drink? 1901 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 2: Is always going to be doing other stuff with it? 1902 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,640 Speaker 7: We do that too, but sometimes we want to go 1903 01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 7: and actually making an experience. 1904 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,080 Speaker 8: You're welcome, do you ever? We are the We are. 1905 01:30:54,120 --> 01:31:00,080 Speaker 7: Attention oriented, detail oriented. Things like Octoberfest happen because of 1906 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:00,479 Speaker 7: of women. 1907 01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:01,320 Speaker 5: Because we are. 1908 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:05,200 Speaker 7: Organized, we have foresight, we can plan yourself. 1909 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,680 Speaker 2: I gotta do it. We're gonna go. We are you 1910 01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,280 Speaker 2: gonna have a drink? Guys go? Hey, you want to 1911 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,719 Speaker 2: get some You want to go grab a beer, maybe 1912 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 2: some wing? Sure, let's go. But hey, I got it? 1913 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 2: How about this? Why don't we end up? Well? Paint? 1914 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:16,680 Speaker 8: How about this? 1915 01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 7: You men miss out on the experience of being a 1916 01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 7: woman going to the bathroom at a bar. We don't 1917 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,480 Speaker 7: want to be going that that alone. You make lifelong 1918 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 7: friends in the bathroom. I'm just saying you get the 1919 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,559 Speaker 7: most compliments. If somebody walks in wearing something, you're like, 1920 01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 7: oh my gosh, where did you get that top? Those 1921 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,439 Speaker 7: shoes are dorable. Yeah, let's be best friends. And then 1922 01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:39,960 Speaker 7: you know what you're doing. You're going out and you're 1923 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:40,719 Speaker 7: getting a drink at. 1924 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,400 Speaker 2: An xbox to right, No, no, you're not. When that person 1925 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,479 Speaker 2: leads a restroom, you're crapping out them because she's no, 1926 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:45,599 Speaker 2: she's such a slut. 1927 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 8: No. 1928 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,759 Speaker 7: And then if she was, I'd be like, yes, go 1929 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,479 Speaker 7: go live your life, have the most fun. 1930 01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:52,560 Speaker 8: We're supportive. 1931 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how you people live with yourselves. I 1932 01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,240 Speaker 2: really don't. You know what's going on this weekend? 1933 01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,439 Speaker 7: So okay, so today is Friday. We'll start with today 1934 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:00,519 Speaker 7: being Friday the thirteenth. 1935 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,800 Speaker 2: There's three of those, I believe in twenty twenty six. 1936 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,559 Speaker 2: The first of three, Friday the thirteenth. 1937 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,160 Speaker 8: Really is that good luck or bad luck? 1938 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:07,920 Speaker 2: Well? 1939 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,960 Speaker 8: This is so Friday the thirteenth tends to well. First 1940 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:11,599 Speaker 8: and foremost. 1941 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,559 Speaker 7: Krispy Kreme is giving away thirteen thousand glazed donuts at 1942 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,560 Speaker 7: their locations. So and it's all random. So if you 1943 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,560 Speaker 7: go to any other I don't even know where the nearest. 1944 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,840 Speaker 2: Christmas west Chester and Tyler's will lane on that So. 1945 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 7: It's random the way that they're handing them out. I 1946 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,920 Speaker 7: don't know how many they're handing out at each location. 1947 01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,200 Speaker 7: So if you're a donut fan, maybe just pop in 1948 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:31,640 Speaker 7: to a Krispy Kreme. But Friday the thirteenth tends to 1949 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,240 Speaker 7: be a really big day for flash tattoos. So if 1950 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 7: you are a tattoo person, check out, Hey, the parlor 1951 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,280 Speaker 7: that I go to my tattoo artists that I like, 1952 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 7: see if that parlor is doing some sort of a 1953 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 7: flash tattoo pop up, because that's really really common in 1954 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 7: the tattoo world, I know, Friday, Friday the thirteenth. 1955 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like dope smokers with four to twenty Sure, okay. 1956 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you don't have any tattoos? 1957 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:56,640 Speaker 7: Do you? No? 1958 01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,800 Speaker 8: What do you get talked about this? Yeah? I think 1959 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:01,760 Speaker 8: I'm going to get one at some. 1960 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 2: Point one of my teams wins the championship the tattoo. 1961 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 8: Or you can get the local on the shirt if. 1962 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,400 Speaker 2: I wear it long enough. I love this shirt so much. 1963 01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,920 Speaker 7: Right there, they just walk around. 1964 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,160 Speaker 2: You've got this topless. Yeah, it's good. 1965 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,439 Speaker 7: So there's an option any and I know some of 1966 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 7: them as the top of my head. North Side Electric 1967 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:25,879 Speaker 7: Tattoo in North Side, Hive Tattoo in Westchester, so closer 1968 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,479 Speaker 7: to where you are. And then Black Fern, which is 1969 01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:31,160 Speaker 7: one of my favorite tattoo shops off of Republic Street 1970 01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:34,040 Speaker 7: downtown throughout the day, so you know, check out, maybe 1971 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,200 Speaker 7: it up So I'm not, but it's funny that you 1972 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:38,920 Speaker 7: bring this up. 1973 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 2: I favorite tattoo shop because where. 1974 01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,639 Speaker 7: I want to go to get my tattoo. I want 1975 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:50,320 Speaker 7: to do a sunflower. It's on the side of my 1976 01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 7: I want to do it on the side of it to. 1977 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,120 Speaker 1: Shave, aren't you it's on the side of my hip. 1978 01:33:56,040 --> 01:34:04,519 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe a polar baron. Let me tell you. 1979 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 8: It's on the side of my hips. Come on. 1980 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:15,280 Speaker 2: Geographic anyway, okay, so Dalent so okay. 1981 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 7: Let's get into Valentine that we've been teasing it out 1982 01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,880 Speaker 7: the last two weeks because good luck, I've looked. Good 1983 01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,840 Speaker 7: luck getting reservation anywhere. So find your dive bar uh 1984 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,800 Speaker 7: even tickets for example, the Music Hall they're doing a tour. 1985 01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,240 Speaker 8: Nothing's no tickets remain. 1986 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,479 Speaker 7: So here's a fun little idea that you still could 1987 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,280 Speaker 7: go if you wanted to maybe pick up you know 1988 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,840 Speaker 7: how they have those date night cards, challenge cards maybe 1989 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,200 Speaker 7: to target today. 1990 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:41,120 Speaker 2: No, I have no idea what that. 1991 01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,479 Speaker 7: The way that you just guessed made it seem like, wow, 1992 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:49,600 Speaker 7: that's the greatest idea date night challenge cards. It's just 1993 01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:55,400 Speaker 7: activity driven, pre produced cards that you together. You open 1994 01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,320 Speaker 7: up and it's like you scratch it off and it's like, hey, 1995 01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,679 Speaker 7: go to you know, you're nearest waffle house. 1996 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,120 Speaker 8: Or something like that. That's just a little different that 1997 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,840 Speaker 8: allows you to just go, just go. 1998 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:05,880 Speaker 2: You don't have to think about it. 1999 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,360 Speaker 8: You don't have to overplan, but it still makes it 2000 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:08,040 Speaker 8: fun and it makes. 2001 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,719 Speaker 2: S We can get in a fight over just scratching 2002 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,040 Speaker 2: the cards off. This is just a bad idea. If 2003 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 2: you've been married for a long time and know what 2004 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, it's like you're getting it stuff all 2005 01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:14,639 Speaker 2: over the floor. 2006 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,479 Speaker 8: I just clean. That's what the dog is for. 2007 01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 2: Why are you using that? Use a quarter? 2008 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,560 Speaker 8: Why are you using your key? 2009 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,840 Speaker 7: All right, But this plan in this get up is 2010 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,920 Speaker 7: for those who maybe have not planned at all and 2011 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 7: you're like, I need a last minute something, something that 2012 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:32,599 Speaker 7: I know is gonna be sealed deal locked in all right, 2013 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:36,680 Speaker 7: mad Tree. They're doing a Valentine's Day bingo and I 2014 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:37,760 Speaker 7: am here. 2015 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:38,320 Speaker 8: For this number one. 2016 01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,120 Speaker 7: I'm always a fan of going to play a little 2017 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,720 Speaker 7: bingo at a bar because I'm ninety at hard. 2018 01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,599 Speaker 2: You're gonna be great. You're gonna be great, Old Lord God, 2019 01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,160 Speaker 2: I love it. I love and she eats. At four, 2020 01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:48,320 Speaker 2: she goes to bingos. 2021 01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:48,639 Speaker 8: I do. 2022 01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:48,920 Speaker 1: I love. 2023 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,320 Speaker 2: It's ninety in the studio. She's got a hat and 2024 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:52,800 Speaker 2: coat on right now, she's cold. 2025 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,280 Speaker 7: My Spotify playlist told me that I'm aged at the 2026 01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,160 Speaker 7: age of eighty six, so you're going to do great. 2027 01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 7: The math is math again, I guess take what I 2028 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,000 Speaker 7: say with a grain of salt. But if you're looking 2029 01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,800 Speaker 7: for something that's cheap, that's on the fly, then you're like, oh, 2030 01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,320 Speaker 7: I don't know what to do, but let's make it 2031 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,400 Speaker 7: a full day thing. Sure, why don't you start in 2032 01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,799 Speaker 7: the morning and go to Matri do this bingo. 2033 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:11,479 Speaker 8: It's from ten to noon. 2034 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,599 Speaker 7: It's only five dollars entry and guess what that five 2035 01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,200 Speaker 7: dollars also goes towards a drink. 2036 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 8: But yeah, it's doctor friendly drinking game. 2037 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,800 Speaker 2: It's a great enough If people don't hit alcohol, that'd 2038 01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,160 Speaker 2: be more inclined to play bingo. 2039 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,800 Speaker 8: And that's what this is. See Soldia, I have. 2040 01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:29,680 Speaker 2: Have all your one fee, you go and you get 2041 01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 2: the cards. 2042 01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,639 Speaker 8: Open bar open, Well, this is an open bar. 2043 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:34,640 Speaker 2: You do have to No, I'm just saying i'd be 2044 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:35,320 Speaker 2: a great idea. 2045 01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:36,200 Speaker 5: It would be. 2046 01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,519 Speaker 7: When the way that the way that I'm think when 2047 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,280 Speaker 7: you said open marm like, could you do bingo at 2048 01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:42,759 Speaker 7: a wedding? 2049 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,000 Speaker 2: That'd be fun, right you could shut yeah, because you 2050 01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:47,880 Speaker 2: generally there's a lot of sitting around talking to people 2051 01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:49,240 Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, keep a looking at your watch, 2052 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 2: give me something to do. 2053 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:51,960 Speaker 8: And people who don't like to dance like it. 2054 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:52,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2055 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, they're doing bingo. 2056 01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,000 Speaker 7: And they also matri if you didn't know, they do 2057 01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,280 Speaker 7: serve brunch and this is at the Oakly locate. They 2058 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:05,040 Speaker 7: do serve brunch, so you can get bronch beer, cider, wine, cocktails, 2059 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,400 Speaker 7: boozed up and his dog friendly. Yeah, so you know what, 2060 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,960 Speaker 7: or maybe maybe you do have a kid and you 2061 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:15,719 Speaker 7: want to bingo, still celebrate, go play bingo tomorrow and. 2062 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,960 Speaker 2: It's just madness to the list, Ali my funeral. 2063 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,639 Speaker 7: Can I host it? Can I host the bingo? As 2064 01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:23,439 Speaker 7: long as I can host it. 2065 01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,000 Speaker 2: We're good Bingo and Cornhole. 2066 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:26,920 Speaker 8: What are gonna be? 2067 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,320 Speaker 7: What are the prizes going to be? Your things that 2068 01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 7: you're trying to give away. 2069 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:31,760 Speaker 2: I gotta build this up. I gotta think it is 2070 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:32,920 Speaker 2: in my mind. I want it to be a thing. 2071 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:33,840 Speaker 8: Put it in your will. 2072 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:35,720 Speaker 2: The least serious funeral of all time. 2073 01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:36,800 Speaker 8: I like that. 2074 01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,080 Speaker 2: That's the only way I'll get people show up. 2075 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,040 Speaker 8: To Okay, man Bingo. 2076 01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:42,760 Speaker 2: He was a real a hole and I don't want 2077 01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,360 Speaker 2: anything to do with this guy. Okay, Well I got 2078 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:45,519 Speaker 2: a chance to win the door prize. 2079 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:51,679 Speaker 7: So you have to bribe people to open bar, open bar, Bingo, 2080 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:57,240 Speaker 7: corn hoole, maybe beer. I'm here, it's it's beer Olympics. 2081 01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,840 Speaker 7: Ye there you go, there, you baby. You also can 2082 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,200 Speaker 7: watch the Olympics this weekend too. 2083 01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,320 Speaker 2: You ain't drinking, you ain't coming next all right. 2084 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,360 Speaker 7: So after you go to Bingo and again this is 2085 01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:11,360 Speaker 7: for tomorrow, they are doing Marty Grass around the corner 2086 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,920 Speaker 7: Marty Gras at the park in Washington Park. 2087 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,479 Speaker 8: And this is a full day thing from noon to six. 2088 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,080 Speaker 7: It's supposed to be a little bit warmer, So get 2089 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,240 Speaker 7: your butt out of the house, get some steps in 2090 01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,000 Speaker 7: they're gonna have music all day and the different lineup 2091 01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,599 Speaker 7: of music throughout the day. We're gonna have like face 2092 01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,519 Speaker 7: painting and jugglers and stilt walkers and fire dancers and 2093 01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:30,519 Speaker 7: fortune tellers. 2094 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,719 Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like that's the party. It is a party. 2095 01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 2: It's just a vibe. It's not like you have to 2096 01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:41,040 Speaker 2: watch them. They're just around for the atmosphere. Decoration, human decoration, 2097 01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,960 Speaker 2: entertainment is what they like to call it. 2098 01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:44,639 Speaker 8: It's a vibe. 2099 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,479 Speaker 7: And they're gonna have a kin cake eating contest, endless 2100 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,479 Speaker 7: drinks so you can hang out at the porch. 2101 01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:53,760 Speaker 8: I'm a firm believer that Washington. 2102 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,640 Speaker 7: Park, that little porch area that they built out, that 2103 01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,320 Speaker 7: little bar area, it's just so fun. So add that 2104 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 7: to your lineup and it's affordable, right, And maybe while 2105 01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,040 Speaker 7: you're down there, maybe you want to swing over to 2106 01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,680 Speaker 7: Finlay Market and then this could be your time to 2107 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,880 Speaker 7: do a little stroll, get some dinner and maybe because 2108 01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,639 Speaker 7: if you didn't make a reservation, you just make dinner 2109 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,120 Speaker 7: at home, but you have day plans instead of night. 2110 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,559 Speaker 2: I gotcha. And when is this going down? 2111 01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:18,679 Speaker 8: This is happening tomorrow. 2112 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,840 Speaker 7: Okay, So if you didn't book a dinner, reverse your day, 2113 01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,639 Speaker 7: do stuff during the day and then maybe make a dinner. 2114 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,040 Speaker 2: And it's a little yeah, okay, got it. So it's 2115 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:29,920 Speaker 2: a little Marty Graff. Speaking of which, speaking Tuesday night, 2116 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,439 Speaker 2: I will be doing again with Sheila Gray, my queen, 2117 01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:34,320 Speaker 2: and Sarah's going to be there. 2118 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,639 Speaker 1: John John's going to be there from Kiss one o seven. 2119 01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:39,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brenneman, my boy's. 2120 01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:39,439 Speaker 2: Going to be there. 2121 01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,200 Speaker 1: This will be his first, his first Marty Graft for 2122 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,960 Speaker 1: homeless Kids at the Northern Kentucky Convention Center. So tickets 2123 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 1: available still at Marty Grot twenty twenty six dot Oregon. 2124 01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,240 Speaker 1: The money goes it's like one hundred bucks. Take one 2125 01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,639 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five for the VIP, which is an hour, 2126 01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,559 Speaker 1: get an extra hour drinking and eating nice and it 2127 01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,320 Speaker 1: all goes to feed homeless kids in Cincinnati north of 2128 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,000 Speaker 1: Kentucky for whole year, oh year of lunch. I love it. 2129 01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,439 Speaker 1: And you eat and drink and it's unbelievable. You're done 2130 01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,760 Speaker 1: by ten o'clock. So yeah, you can go home and 2131 01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 1: not ruin your day the next day unless you want 2132 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,559 Speaker 1: you or get a hotel across the street, take the 2133 01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:11,000 Speaker 1: day off. 2134 01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:12,880 Speaker 2: I ain't judging I think that's a great idea. Have 2135 01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,280 Speaker 2: done that before and it's a blast, it's it's and 2136 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:16,599 Speaker 2: you've been and it's fantastic. 2137 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the food is great. Yeah, I do actually all. 2138 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:23,280 Speaker 7: Right now with Tom this is his first year going. 2139 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:25,200 Speaker 7: Is he going to try to dethrown you or do 2140 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,560 Speaker 7: you feel that's good? And I don't feel does you 2141 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,640 Speaker 7: know you could get heat in the head with somebody. 2142 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:35,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't know that? Not that fancy. Yeah, he's gonna get haze, right, you. 2143 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,280 Speaker 8: Know, hopefully this power just doesn't get to your head and. 2144 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:38,360 Speaker 2: Trying it always does? 2145 01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,320 Speaker 8: It really does? It really does. What are you gonna wear? 2146 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:42,280 Speaker 7: Well? You have? 2147 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,599 Speaker 2: I always have the cape and the helmet? What does 2148 01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,240 Speaker 2: that call it? The crown? You should you should wear? 2149 01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,000 Speaker 2: I need help. I gotta dig out. I don't know 2150 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,840 Speaker 2: where it is my old hockey helmet with the visor 2151 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:54,760 Speaker 2: on it. Where you get that? 2152 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:55,920 Speaker 8: Oh that's funny? 2153 01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:56,679 Speaker 5: H Yeah? 2154 01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,519 Speaker 8: And so Marty grow up right? 2155 01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,120 Speaker 7: Speaking of Also at Filly Marching, they are doing a 2156 01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:05,360 Speaker 7: Marty Gras Brunch action on Sunday. So we've moved on 2157 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,720 Speaker 7: to Sunday and it's kind of an all day thing 2158 01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:11,599 Speaker 7: from ten to four o'clock. You can buy tickets ahead 2159 01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,000 Speaker 7: of time it's sample tickets, or you can buy them 2160 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 7: on site. And you want to talk about a slew 2161 01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:22,519 Speaker 7: of every possible you know, taste testing opportunity from Marty Girl, 2162 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:27,360 Speaker 7: Classics from Eli's Barbecue pro Yes, Taste the Belgium like everything. 2163 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:28,600 Speaker 8: And then they also have a line of. 2164 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:32,400 Speaker 7: Sweet treats, treats, sweat treats if he wants some sweat treats. 2165 01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 8: I do love kN cake. 2166 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,280 Speaker 2: I never I'll tell you what, I'm not a huge 2167 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,720 Speaker 2: fan of king cake because I've had It's like and 2168 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,760 Speaker 2: Servati does ours at the end, and they brought some 2169 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,240 Speaker 2: the other day. I had a huge piece. It was 2170 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,679 Speaker 2: so good. When it's fresh, it was amazing. It's the icing, 2171 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:50,679 Speaker 2: It's the icing. 2172 01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,599 Speaker 8: It's the There's just something about the king cake. 2173 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 2: You know they put it on because it's kind of 2174 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,680 Speaker 2: like they take like a gloved hand or maybe just 2175 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 2: the bare hand and they just scoop the cream up 2176 01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:02,760 Speaker 2: and just splat it all over the top of the 2177 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:03,679 Speaker 2: cake with our bare hands. 2178 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,120 Speaker 8: Is that yeah? Oh I didn't know that. 2179 01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, makes it just over the top of it. Their 2180 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,559 Speaker 2: hands all full of like kinkcake color. 2181 01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,320 Speaker 7: Honestly, that's probably that's very genius because I feel like 2182 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,679 Speaker 7: anytime I try to put icing. 2183 01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:19,000 Speaker 2: On, we're supposed to look all and then they dump 2184 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:20,920 Speaker 2: a ton of colored sugar on top of it too, 2185 01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,240 Speaker 2: so it covers it all. It fits the nooks and crannies. 2186 01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:24,639 Speaker 2: It's a whole time. It's a lot of sugar. 2187 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,640 Speaker 7: Sprinkles. Sprinkles are having a comeback. I'm just saying, all right, 2188 01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 7: so get yourself a cancake. Dial in on that. Just 2189 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,880 Speaker 7: some other quick things, real quick. Yeah again, if you 2190 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,640 Speaker 7: didn't plan last minute, here we go. You see the 2191 01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:42,160 Speaker 7: health ice rink downtown, Maybe look into going ice skating 2192 01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:43,800 Speaker 7: because as it worms up, who. 2193 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,559 Speaker 2: Knows reservation at this point? Good luck? 2194 01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:47,120 Speaker 8: Good luck? 2195 01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, we tried. We tried a couple of weeks 2196 01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:54,280 Speaker 7: in advance. Cobblestone and OTR they're doing this Cupid's Corner 2197 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,120 Speaker 7: pop up. I mean, Valentine's Day threw up in that 2198 01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:00,160 Speaker 7: bar and it looks great. Eaton Park, maybe take can 2199 01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,200 Speaker 7: stroll an eating park, get some takeout, favorite Chinese joint, 2200 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:03,760 Speaker 7: whatever it might be. 2201 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:04,639 Speaker 2: Why it's gonna be one. 2202 01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:06,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, and then also another thing that could be fun 2203 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,080 Speaker 7: a record store and like coffee shop combo if you're 2204 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:13,000 Speaker 7: music people. Maybe turn that into a date. Head to 2205 01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:14,639 Speaker 7: a coffee shop and then go to a record store. 2206 01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,280 Speaker 1: Sure you're gonna you're scribbing the bottom barrel. If you 2207 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,639 Speaker 1: didn't plan, now that's what you're gonna be doing. 2208 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:19,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, I try. 2209 01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,680 Speaker 2: It's gonna go to Speedway, get some beef, jerk in 2210 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,240 Speaker 2: a trucker, had Ali Martin, Local Loop at Ali Martin 2211 01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,240 Speaker 2: the number eight. Go see my shirt there, get one 2212 01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,360 Speaker 2: for yourself, Go Bills, Go Bengals, and of course the 2213 01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,920 Speaker 2: Local Loop with Ali Martin. Who's your channel on YouTube? 2214 01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,800 Speaker 2: Thanks appreciate you friend. Let's do a news update. Have 2215 01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 2: a great weekend. Back Monday at nine oh six on 2216 01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,559 Speaker 2: the Home of the Red seven hundred W Dowt Cincenati