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Speaker 2: So with the Texans and the New England Patriots, the

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Speaker 1: It's forty and a half. Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Again, if the I'm still compelled to taste that under right,

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Speaker 3: it feels like yeah, But I think this is key.

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Speaker 2: The Texans have one sixteen consecutive when they score at

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Speaker 2: twenty against New England? I think that's a keithasset. They're

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Speaker 2: not gonna have Nico Collins. I don't think either.

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's a massive part of this. And

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Speaker 3: it's not just Nico Collins and whatever relationship in the

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Speaker 3: same way we would talk about justin Jefferson, it's about

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Speaker 3: what he does on the field that potentially, even if

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Speaker 3: you're focused on Nico, what opportunities exist for others. And

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Speaker 3: it's the Iowa State young Cats. I know one of

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Speaker 3: them's Higgins. I forget what Jaylen Nowe? Are they both

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Speaker 3: Jalen or Jaden maybe? And then and then even you

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Speaker 3: look at Dalton Schultz. I just think I've seen in

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Speaker 3: pressure spots. I think it's really tough to predict and

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Speaker 3: then in the end, I'm going to lean towards tough

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Speaker 1: Stroud making enough plays to make that happen. So very fair.

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Speaker 3: How productive can what he Marx be on the road?

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Speaker 3: That's a factor in the end. I like Drake may

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Speaker 3: too much to believe that he can't manage the game,

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Speaker 3: mitigate turnovers and just be more efficient in spots. And

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Speaker 3: then you let that that two headed running attack kind

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Speaker 3: of salt this thing away in a low scoring, underwhelming affair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that pick.

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Speaker 4: I will say Christian Kirk looked pretty intriguing the other night.

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Speaker 1: Kirk's good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked pretty good. I was kind of I

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Speaker 4: was like, I kind of forgot he was on the Texans.

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Speaker 4: But he's catching passes in open space and creating run

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Speaker 2: So interesting. But yeah, I mean, I just on.

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Speaker 4: The interior of the Texans offensive line going up against

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Speaker 4: is another talented pass strusher on the interior, and I

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Speaker 4: think you know Mike Smith who coaches Edges over there,

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Speaker 4: who is it with Minnesota? For me, is really really

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Speaker 2: I just I have a lot of faith in the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: The under is I'm with you Nordo Brac title game

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Speaker 2: in turnovers for me, Stroud was all over the place

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Speaker 2: the other night in the game. And if he looks

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Speaker 1: Just see no way.

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Speaker 2: But I I mean, you cannot say enough about what

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Speaker 2: Vrabel has done from a cultural shift for that team

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Speaker 2: in that program. They are they actually digs. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: They are scary kind of like you fear the physicality

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Speaker 1: Year, yes, sir impressive.

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Speaker 2: Alec has a mail bag at the Athletic the Athletic

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Speaker 2: dot com and there was a question that came into

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Speaker 2: his mail bag that was very, very fascinating.

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Speaker 1: You want it for a second.

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Speaker 2: Actually may talk about it a little bit here than

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Speaker 2: gravy training a little bit next week for some talkbacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gravy training.

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Speaker 2: If if you could add one former Viking to the

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Speaker 1: Who would it be and why? Current player? Or am

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Speaker 2: Okay yeah, ever, all right, I got it. Now do

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Speaker 2: Friend Tarkenton, Okay, and you think about Fran, you think

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Speaker 1: Sure, what about you guys. Yeah, the Tarkenton thing is fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I we talked, I really think O'Connell

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Speaker 1: His deep ball was the bomb. So like Dante could

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Speaker 3: I want ninety eight Randy Moss back in my life.

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Speaker 3: I would love it. But I'm thinking, like, what would

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Brilliant that you said that. That was my answer.

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Speaker 1: He's no Kiris Tom true to true to that point,

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Speaker 3: At twenty seventeen, Kevin Williams, I think would make Hay

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Speaker 1: That's like Jeremiah Love.

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Speaker 2: Nobody was bringing Percy down on that first tackle. I

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Speaker 2: Percy Arvin was the bomb man. Yeah, that would be one.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe he's in the Ring of Fame.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: he is. He probably is. That's searching in now give

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he I mean, he's the best cornerback in

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Speaker 1: Who else is on that list? All right?

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Speaker 2: So Vikings Ring of Honor we got Jared Allen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I amating to the w's Antoine Winfield. I'm not seeing

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Speaker 2: No, what are you looking at, Alec, I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: I like John I really like Jonathan Buller's past rushing

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Board, John.

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Speaker 2: Bullard, bro when everybody know last year, when everybody was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I still I still just think it's Dreamy Tarkenton,

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Speaker 2: One hit one NFC North related tidbit that I do

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Speaker 2: a week. But the question is are the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 2: I do really believe what Ben Johnson is and will

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Speaker 1: The receiver has really come on. What if they win

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Speaker 4: If they win this one, yeah, I mean it'll be harder,

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Speaker 2: The Vikings still have a lot of talent. It's just

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Speaker 1: I just I've thought a lot about it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this Vikings team needs some trends. If

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Speaker 1: Offense here, let's not go to so I don't.

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Speaker 2: If you get a quarterback or JJ McCarthy develops into

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Speaker 1: This is the.

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Speaker 2: Last time we will see you before the National championship game.

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Speaker 2: College football matters a lot to you, it does, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: what'd you say they were favored by yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Something like eight and a half? Yeah? Crazy? Whoa crazy?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that one?

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Speaker 4: Miami's trenches are really good. If they can get pressure

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Speaker 4: and bother Mendoza, they probably have a chance. But Indiana

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Speaker 1: So it's really hard to pick against them.

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Speaker 2: These coaches Signetti and Crystal baul and and program turnarounds

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Speaker 1: It takes both.

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Speaker 2: But this specific team is a lot of Signetti where

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Speaker 2: Control the line of scrimmage and then execute consistently like

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if we had that conversation Nico, you're

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Speaker 1: Great and a half.

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Speaker 2: I the only way I could bet this game is

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Speaker 2: if I found one of those small guards from Kennesas

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Speaker 2: everybody else can have everything else I have.

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Speaker 1: I just need that kid. You're fantastic. Have a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was a blast.

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Speaker 2: on Monday?

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Speaker 1: In on Monday?

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