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Speaker 2: I feel it's very important let everybody here, including those

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Speaker 2: I mean, if Joe Ryan heard that he'd probably joined

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Zoll my favorite GM. Alrighty, alrighty. It is now

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Speaker 2: post time for nine to noon at FM one hundred

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Speaker 2: point three kfam coming up here momentarily a head coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of the very hottest teams in the National

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if the big SA by Gus is

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Speaker 3: sitting the iron on Ki Darrel Montreal moments ago, get

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Speaker 1: Joe Hanson step Free favors it a load, Magnomas times

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Speaker 3: Game is tight thread Okay, us to the slot pushes

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Speaker 5: Their own time winners, the Wild top the Canadian car.

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Speaker 1: What play hoggy? Nearing time to drop the puck?

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Speaker 2: On nine to noon, it's time to drop the puck, heinsy, Well,

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Speaker 2: pup talk, sending out a metaphorical symbolic carrier pigeon.

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Speaker 5: Heinsy doing that now, heinsy, he talk, Well that signal, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They hook the Nashville Predators on KF this evening. It

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Speaker 2: is the final game before the Olympic break. I think

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Speaker 2: Italy for the Olympic festivities.

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Speaker 1: Which begin very soon. Heinz.

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Speaker 2: Part of the TimberTech What's on Deck setlist nine to

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Speaker 2: Nordo has been in ten of ten show organization mode

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Speaker 2: this week and the young Man the con do It.

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Speaker 2: The Surgi brother has been in touch with a man

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Speaker 2: named Gary Kubiak. Gary Kubiak for Super Bowl stories and

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Speaker 1: There, mister Nords, I believe it's nine to forty today.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Indeed, Gary Kubiak super Bowl stories with a four

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Speaker 2: time Super Bowl champion as a coach, and he also

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Speaker 2: And his son Clint Kubiak more than likely will become

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Speaker 2: the next head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders and

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Speaker 2: the former Minnesota Vikings offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak is the

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Speaker 2: The Star Tribune loving friend Ben Gasling. He'll stop buy

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Speaker 2: much more coming up in the final hour of nine

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Speaker 2: to noon. But first, let's play hockey, and let's begin

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Speaker 2: with John Hines coaches the Minnesota Wild when there's a

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Speaker 2: four consecutive and Victoria's fourteen times since Quinn Hughes joined

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Speaker 2: Coach also is a New England Patriots fan since childhood,

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Speaker 2: So let's get Super Bowl sixty out of the way first.

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Speaker 1: Coach.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, John, did you perchance enjoy some five music

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Speaker 6: having me on, But no, I didn't. I actually I

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Speaker 1: All right, super Bowl sixty.

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Speaker 2: I like your Pats to win, but everything about me

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Speaker 2: So let's seven, eight, nine, ten, So that's like what

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Speaker 2: is it like two thirty in the morning, Milon times.

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Speaker 6: To sacrifice a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's being the coach. You know, you

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Speaker 2: John Heinz, coach of the Minnesota Wild are you Are

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Carter said it on TV the other night.

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Speaker 1: How do you see it as a guy who coaches them.

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Speaker 2: And last time a lot of these familiar names got together,

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Speaker 2: In the twenty four he has played here, the Wild's

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Speaker 2: Lastly, as a head coach, John Hines won one hundred

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Speaker 2: Hey, man, if if the time works out, you think

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Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen has joined the Left Covenant. My ma'am,

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Speaker 1: And and if it's a lot like Who's looking good?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the world of uh. You think the NFL

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Speaker 4: it's fifty percent. Last year, North Carolina added seventy four

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Speaker 4: players brand new football players and Bill Belichick's first year

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Speaker 4: seventy four. You can't live like that, PA doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Work that way.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you can't win like that either, as they learned,

438
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Speaker 2: because I mean football like hockey, ultimate team games. I

439
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Speaker 2: mean a just just to get four yards, A has

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Speaker 2: to go to B, has to go to C, has

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Speaker 2: to go to question and if he messed up things

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Speaker 2: up as a tackle.

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Speaker 4: For loss, yep, yep, it's it's crazy. Sometimes it hits.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can get a culture shift, go in.

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Speaker 4: You get the right guys at coach Lee's Signetti probably

446
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Speaker 4: at Indiana the best example here recently and had success

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Speaker 4: with it. But he's different. That guy's a savant in

448
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Speaker 4: many ways. Kurt's done an unbelievable job there. I mean,

449
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Speaker 4: and I saw him where he coached at my school

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Speaker 4: at Elon and North Carolina for three years.

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Speaker 6: He was he was terrific.

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Speaker 4: But I think you've got to understand how volatile this

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Speaker 4: process is when you start wrapping your arms around it,

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Speaker 4: and I think we're going to see brand name struggle.

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Speaker 4: I think the brand names that we were accustomed to

456
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Speaker 4: ten fifteen years ago, some of those are going to

457
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Speaker 4: fade here in the next couple of years, and there's

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Speaker 4: some that are teetering right now, and I think it's

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Speaker 4: I think it's really tricky how you stay afloat, and

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Speaker 4: in some cases it's probably costing as much as forty

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Speaker 4: million dollars a year and paying players to do it.

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Speaker 1: Maine Man West Durham.

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Speaker 2: Fuck. He's calling a bunch of acc basketball games on

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Speaker 2: TV this week. And he also was the long time

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Speaker 2: played by play voice of the Atlanta Falcons. With the

466
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl on the horizon, Really the reason for the

467
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Speaker 2: call was was to start here that you're gonna love

468
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Speaker 2: Stefanski over the long haul. Kevin Stefanski, who go to

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Speaker 2: the Falcons and he'll probably coach the team for many years.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about all this?

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Speaker 4: To me, the whole reorg at the front has been

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Speaker 4: a positive for Atlanta. I think Matt Ryan coming back

473
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Speaker 4: as president of football, you're bringing the best leader of

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Speaker 4: the franchise has ever seen back in the building. And

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Speaker 4: you know this, You've We've all seen got who played

476
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Speaker 4: in the NFL come back to be administrators and depending

477
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Speaker 4: on their makeup, I think judges their success. And I

478
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Speaker 4: think math got the right makeup to be successful. You

479
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Speaker 4: can feel an energy in the building. I thought Kevin

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Speaker 4: was a terrific higher. They had to get a former

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Speaker 4: head coach in, a guy who has seen it kind

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Speaker 4: of at all levels, and I think he clearly fits

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Speaker 4: the bill. As you know there and then Ian Cunningham

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Speaker 4: announced yesterday as the general manager in his press conference,

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Speaker 4: and he hit all the right notes to me, you

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Speaker 4: value the draft picks and then you accentuate from there.

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Speaker 4: He says that with Atlanta only having five picks, but

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Speaker 4: as he reminded folks yesterday, a couple of years ago

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Speaker 4: in Chicago, they had five when the regular season ended

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Speaker 4: and they ended up in the draft with nine. I

491
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Speaker 4: think that means that, look, he's going to try and

492
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Speaker 4: build as much as he can through the draft, which

493
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Speaker 4: is smart because you know this, the volatility of the

494
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Speaker 4: cap kind of dictates what you can and can't do

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Speaker 4: with guys who are on expiring contracts. That's why it's

496
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Speaker 4: always interesting to meet people want you to make decisions

497
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Speaker 4: and referendums in October when you don't even know what

498
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Speaker 4: the CAP's going to be for the next year until January, right, So,

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Speaker 4: but I think the Atlanta Riorg has been successful so far.

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Speaker 4: I like the staff Kevin's putting together. I'm excited to

501
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Speaker 4: see what Tommy Rees brings to the table, and then

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Speaker 4: Jeff Albert keeping him as the defensive coordinaty PA. I

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Speaker 4: don't have to tell you Atlanta kind of got it

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Speaker 4: figured out on that side of the ball this year

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Speaker 4: and keeping Brick as the DC with some of that

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Speaker 4: young talent they had is pretty exciting for people in

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Speaker 4: our market.

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Speaker 2: How good do you think or expects Stafanski and Cousins

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Speaker 2: to be together?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think the Kirk Cousins situation with March thirteenth looming

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Speaker 4: Paul is a really really tough equation to work out

513
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Speaker 4: right now, wow, because I'm not sure it doesn't require no,

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Speaker 4: this is just me. I'm just not sure it doesn't

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Speaker 4: require some sort of reorganization of the contract.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: It's just so much money involved in Kirk's deal that

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Speaker 4: if you were to take him and say, okay, where

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Speaker 4: do we value Michael Pennix off the ACL and everybody

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Speaker 4: knows his injury history, Kirk has shown you the ability

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Speaker 4: to win games, and you got to remember you have

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Speaker 4: two things that most other guys don't have with this

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Speaker 4: quarterback equation. You have a show stopper at running back,

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Speaker 4: and in my opinion, you've got one of the top

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Speaker 4: five or seven receivers in the NFL at wide receiver

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Speaker 4: in Drake London. You've got an offensive line it's also

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Speaker 4: pretty good. So the Cousins thing has to be handled mathematically,

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Speaker 4: certainly the right way, but I think also it's got

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Speaker 4: to be handled not just as a twenty twenty six decision,

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Speaker 4: but maybe as one for the next two or three

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Speaker 4: years as well.

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Speaker 2: Not brilliant, well laid out up Step Stefanski is from

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Speaker 2: the North Turner tree. So yeah, tight ends and the

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Speaker 2: electrifying Bijon Robinson and other running backs, they're going to

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Speaker 2: get people excited, don't you think. I mean, Kevin's really

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Speaker 2: good with these tight ends and running games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's gonna be. I think we're gonna

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Speaker 4: have multiple three tight end sets. How's that you?

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Speaker 1: I think?

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Speaker 4: Also here's the other thing too, And you've seen this clearly,

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Speaker 4: we don't define the tight end as what the tight

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Speaker 4: end was, you know with John Mackey, right, I'm not

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Speaker 4: even sure the tight ends what Tony Gonzalez is. I

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Speaker 4: think you can have a tight end who's an inline blocker,

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Speaker 4: and you can have a tight end who is offset,

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Speaker 4: and you can have a tight end on the other

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Speaker 4: side who's actually on the line too.

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Speaker 6: So for me, it gets interesting.

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Speaker 4: And I think anybody who's got his kind of tree,

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Speaker 4: if you will, from an experience standpoint, and then add

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Speaker 4: kind of what Tommy did. And I went back and

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Speaker 4: just kind of googled some of his formation packages from

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Speaker 4: Alabama when he was the OC there, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's where the Robinson stuff starts to come into play,

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Speaker 4: because he ran a lot of eleven personnel at Alabama's success.

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Speaker 4: And I think with the wide receivers that Atlanta has,

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Speaker 4: plus the offensive line and you know Seven's ability to

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Speaker 4: make plays in space as we know, I think that

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Speaker 4: may be a recipe for success, whether Kirk Cousins, Michael Pennix,

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Speaker 4: or you or me or a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: How at wes How close is panis to returning?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's a I think it's an approximate best,

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Speaker 4: he told Zach Klein a WSBTV August. I think that's

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Speaker 4: for a November aclow and reconstruction.

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Speaker 3: PA.

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Speaker 4: I think that's aggressive, don't you. I mean, I just

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Speaker 4: don't see I just don't see August as being a

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Speaker 4: potential timeline.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Michael's a fast healer, maybe he's ahead of the

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Speaker 4: rehab right now, but August seems to be optimistic for me.

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Speaker 4: I would think at best, if I were operating in

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Speaker 4: the front office with Ian Cunningham, I'd be thinking about

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Speaker 4: mid October is potentially his earliest return. That would be

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Speaker 4: almost eleven months, and given the history he's had with

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Speaker 4: this type injury, I think that's probably the safest way

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Speaker 4: to play.

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Speaker 2: It right now. All right, last one, wester Or em

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Speaker 2: Elite NFL college basketball and football.

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Speaker 1: You're very kind.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, You're very kind to say that.

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Speaker 1: Oh you are.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're You're very good at what you do, man,

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Speaker 2: and you do it on on into many microphones with

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different sports.

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Speaker 1: That's hard to do. I think that's very good.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 1: Wesley.

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Speaker 2: You you guys lost a heartbreaker to New England and

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Speaker 2: like our beloved Vikings got dusted by the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Who who do you like in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: And why remember what I told you two years ago

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Speaker 4: about this time of year. Remember you called me I

595
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Speaker 4: was on. You asked me about the quarterbacks coming out

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Speaker 4: in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Drake May, Jayden.

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Speaker 4: Daniels, Caleb Williams, and I told you the best one

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Speaker 4: would beat Drake.

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Speaker 1: May, right that North Carolina. That's right. I'll never forget it.

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Speaker 4: That's who I'm going with Sunday right. As much as

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Speaker 4: I like the Seattle story, and I think, by the way,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you feel about the guy. I

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Speaker 4: think Mike McDonald is like the next guy.

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Speaker 1: He's fantastic and boy is he good.

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Speaker 4: Holy cal and Sam Darnold deserves a lot of credit.

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Speaker 4: I think you recognize that from having probably been with

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Speaker 4: him last year. What he's done this year in Seattle

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Speaker 4: is to be admired and respected for sure. But Drake

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Speaker 4: May's got the juice.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: That kid has done things in two years in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I didn't doubt his ability, or his acumen or his athleticism,

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Speaker 4: but he and Brabel have been a hell of a

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Speaker 4: max this year's He's really done a terrific job for them.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do you go to the NFL scouting combine because

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for a very very early guest inclusion before

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Speaker 2: I totally decide if I'm going.

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Speaker 4: I've never been to the Combine, believe it or not,

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Speaker 4: twenty two years of doing the Falcons. I'm hoping my

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Speaker 4: broadcast partner, Dave Archer gets to go. He'd love to

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Speaker 4: huddle up with you. You know that I got his

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Speaker 4: number two. Hey, I'm yeah, You're fantastic. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: the great messages. Love you very much, Buden. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: so yeah, man, you two b WELLPA always.

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Speaker 2: Fun seem that's West Durham. You're watching ACC basketball this evening.

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Speaker 2: He's in He's in Wolville and he's fantastic West Urham.

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Speaker 2: Don't leave home without him. Speaking of fantastic football immortality,

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Speaker 2: Gary Kubiak joins nine to Noon Next.

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Speaker 1: So super Bowl Stories yesterday with two.

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Speaker 2: Times Super Bowl champion NORV Turner, former offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: For the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: You can find that via podcasting at kfan dot com.

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Speaker 2: And nor was followed by Mike Holmgren, a three time

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion, including one with Green Bay and Mike

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Speaker 2: Holmgren had some wonderful, wonderful Super Bowl stories and conversation

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Speaker 2: about current the current state of offenses in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League, and how age old scenarios and or adages

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Speaker 2: ring true even in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League and involving tight ends and

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Speaker 2: running backs. And you know, he coached the Green Bay

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Speaker 2: team where Desmond Howard more known as a returner and

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Speaker 2: a special teams guy than a wide receiver. Despite winning

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Speaker 2: the Heisman in Michigan, Desmond Howard was the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: MVP the year Mike Holmgren won it coaching the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers, and Desmond's the only special teamer in the

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Speaker 2: history of the award to win Most Valuable Player in

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. I think he had a ninety nine

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Speaker 2: yard kick return as part of that Super Bowl victory.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Mike Holmgren, it just where as we

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Speaker 2: await the arrival of Gary Kubiak, it's you know, I

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Speaker 2: just went with West Durham. The Atlanta Falcons twenty two

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Speaker 2: year play by play voice also calls two or three

654
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: basketball games a week for ESPN and the ACC. You

655
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: know I mentioned I mentioned a wes that Kevin Stefanski is.

656
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: He's from the North Turner tree to a certain extent. Really,

657
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: the Brad Childress has a tree with limbs also, and

658
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: he brought to Minnesota in two thousand and six. But

659
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: when Kevin got his first position coach, his first coaching

660
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: job with a position, it was tight ends for the

661
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings, I believe in in twenty fourteen, and a

662
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: North Turner gave him that opportunity because he recognized Kevin

663
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: very smart, Kevin very calm, and Kevin cares very much

664
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: and tight ends are and were important to North Turner.

665
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: So he gave that spot to Kevin Stefanski his first

666
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: position coach job, and Kevin thus became a limb, so

667
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: to speak, on the North Turner tree. Well, Mike holm Grin,

668
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: if you I mean, I mean, we could go way

669
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: down the road on this with Mike hom Gren, I

670
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: don't have it in front of me right now. So

671
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: just top of the head. Like Steve Mariucci, he was

672
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: a limb on the Mike holm Grin tree. I believe

673
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: John Gruden was a limb on the Mike holm Gren tree,

674
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: as was Andy Reid. Where Andy as an offensive line

675
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: coach at Missouri.

676
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: All right, he had.

677
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: Coached college football for X amount of years, but he

678
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: knew coach Holmgren from their days together at Brigham Young University,

679
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: and so Therefore, Mike believed in Andy and he was

680
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: looking for an opportunity. And when the Green Bay Packers

681
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: won that Super Bowl with Desmond Howard is the MVP.

682
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: Far to the quarterback, I believe Dorsey Levins the running back,

683
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: and so on and so on. Maybe there were some

684
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: Donald Driver Daggers. But Andy Reid was an assistant offensive

685
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: line coach for Mike, and he also was offensive quality control,

686
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: which is generally a starting point for a lot of

687
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: coaches around the National Football League. And that's about thirty

688
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: years ago. So lo and behold Andy Reid from the

689
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: home groun tree. He is Cinch Hall of Famer, first

690
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. When when he's done coaching, and

691
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: and it all started with with Mike Holmgren. Now if

692
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: and or when we find Gary Kubiak, you know Gary

693
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: when he got here around twenty twenty he, I mean

694
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: Gary Kubiak from the from the the not McVeigh, but

695
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: the Shannan, Trey Shanahan, Yeah, Mike Shanahan, thank you, from

696
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: the Mike Shanahan tree. And then from that we have

697
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan, and we have Sean McVeigh, Kevin O'Connell, played

698
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: for it. He's kind of part of that with the

699
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: middle zone attacking and stuff like that. And and and

700
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: Gary Kubiaks, I mean, how about this, And you think we.

701
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 1: Were in peril here with Gary?

702
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 5: I think I think we got we might have some

703
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: blitdnikov home number terrorism here right now. Talked with Gary, texted,

704
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 5: called Gary. Everything seemed fine as of yesterday afternoon. And

705
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 5: so all right, I guess schedules might change. Yeah, well,

706
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: if he you were just praising me for putting the

707
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 5: schedule together. And now I'm trying to call literally Soaka's

708
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 5: fact line.

709
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: That's an elite job. I mean, he's done an elite job.

710
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna keep trying. Absolutely, But think about this

711
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: for one second. Clint Kubiak, Gary Son, offensive coordinator for

712
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, Gary has two other sons. One

713
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: is a scout for the Dallas Cowboys. I think his

714
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: name is Klein. But his other son, Clay, is the

715
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for the San Francisco forty nine ers. Oh wow,

716
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: so you got so just think of I mean, if

717
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: you're Gary, and if we get him, I'm going to

718
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: ask him about this. I mean, it's for whom do

719
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: you root if your dad and son is coordinating against

720
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: son offense offense, I mean, I guess you just root

721
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: for like a seventy two to sixty eight game.

722
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just some some sort of tie.

723
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: No, it is kind of interesting, And I know this

724
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 5: can devolve into like nepotism related conversations in terms of

725
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 5: XYZ high end coach and or player. You see their

726
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 5: sons finding their way through the coaching ranks and certainly

727
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: inside the fraternity.

728
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: That can be a part of a part of the talker.

729
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 5: But over the course of time, whether you're mentioning the

730
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: branches that kind of spread out from holme Grin's time

731
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: with the Packers and Andy Reid. To be honest, until

732
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 5: you chatted with Holgrin about it yesterday, I had no

733
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: freaking idea. I did not, So I didn't dig deeply

734
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 5: enough with mister Holmgrid. But Shanahan, Mike Shanahan. You know

735
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: there's a Belichick conversation going on right now about hof

736
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: and you think about Mike Shanahan and all those fantastic

737
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 5: years he had coaching. But Kubiak comes I believe he

738
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: not to mention backing up and playing and going to

739
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 5: Super Bowls, sadly, I believe losing them with Elway and

740
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: the Broncos in his playing days. I think he's the

741
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: QB coach mid early nineties. It would have been the

742
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 5: ninety four season when the Niners just absolutely thrashed the

743
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 5: Chargers and Stan Humphreyes and all those guys. But but

744
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: then finding his way back to back working with Mike

745
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 5: Shanahan again and now his kid. And you know, you

746
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 5: can tell me if I'm wrong on this, but from

747
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: Stefanski getting the job starting with the twenty twenty season

748
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 5: with the Browns, twenty twenty would have been Gary doing

749
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: some OC work slash assistant head coaching duties, you know, O,

750
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 5: they're just ancillary's. He's in the meeting rooms, certainly back

751
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 5: endo Zimmer's tenure. But then Clint the OC in twenty

752
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: twenty one. Yeah, it was he's too young. He's clearly

753
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 5: only got the job because Gary gave it to him.

754
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 5: Or doesn't talk enough. Yeah, he doesn't talk enough. He

755
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: doesn't He's not able to articulate the offense, all of

756
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 5: those things.

757
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: Clint's a still because I've watched some of his press conferences,

758
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: you know, over the last month in James as part

759
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: of him at least still a very soft spoken, underspoken

760
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: yet calculated koopiac.

761
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: It's just a very soft spoken guy.

762
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 5: Yeah he was, and so but then Zimmer's let go

763
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: at the end of the year, and all of that's

764
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 5: a wash and enter Kevin O'Connell. I always felt like

765
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: from Vikings fans in totality and just thinking about a

766
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 5: bad twenty twenty one that at one point even featured.

767
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: Manions back in passes over the middle incomplaint.

768
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: As bad as that year was, I think people were

769
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 5: excited like, Okay, Clint didn't have it, couldn't figure out

770
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 5: this offense, new regime, Let's wash our hands of it.

771
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 5: And I think Clint was kind of caught up in

772
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 5: that we're moving on from all of it. None of

773
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: it was good enough, et cetera. Yeah, but then you

774
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 5: fast forward again. He doesn't talk enough. I just thought, like,

775
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 5: listen to Sam Darnold here super Bowl Week talking about

776
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: Clint Kubiak in particular.

777
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's unbelievable.

778
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 7: Just the things that you know, the things that I

779
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 7: learned when I was with Clinton twenty three, just schematically

780
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 7: and then getting to learn from him as a coach,

781
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 7: as well and as a person, just the grit.

782
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, he wakes up at insane hours.

783
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 7: He gets to the facility at four four thirty in

784
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 7: the morning and he's there later than anyone.

785
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: He's just a he's a grinder.

786
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 7: He loves football and uh you know, he's he's very

787
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 7: honest and he's very uh forthcoming with his players. That

788
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 7: I think, you know, a lot of myself and a

789
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 7: lot of the guys really appreciate about him.

790
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: But first and foremost, just listen to the pop and

791
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: the joy and the clarity and articulation and annunciation and

792
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: joy and happiness in the voice of Sam, the man

793
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: who used to be on the fan.

794
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: Sam's in a really good spot right now. He's feeling

795
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: pretty good. I agree.

796
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: And and it's interesting, you know, with with with Darnold,

797
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: all right, the has the can he handle the heat?

798
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: Has that conversation completely come to a conclusion because we

799
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 2: have one left?

800
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: We got one left. There's a lot of heat, yeah,

801
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: a lot of heat in this one coming up. It's different.

802
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 2: It's I was thinking about this yesterday, you know, because

803
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago I was like fighter fairness

804
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: and Sam Darnald act all right, you know, I'll never

805
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: forget Week eighteen and Ford Field and the totality of

806
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: the day and the rumors that were bouncing around about

807
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: certain things, and then the game and the mist receivers

808
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: and you watch it back and you're like, well, I mean,

809
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: the moving company did everything right, and the kids and

810
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: Jefferson Naylor and all those guys did everything right. Awkinson

811
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: middle of the field, and you know, courtesy of what

812
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: seemed to be the hips, they just were missed right

813
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: in a very winnable game. I draw a line through

814
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: the Rams playoff game. Okay, Darnold probably held the ball

815
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: too long a few times, but sack nine times. That

816
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: ain't all on Sam.

817
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 6: I think.

818
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: I think that entire operation on that day just was

819
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: kind of ill faded out and where the state, you know,

820
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: where the game was, and just everything that went to

821
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: it went into it. So now you get to this

822
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: year for Sam, the man who used to be on

823
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: the van, and he led the National Football League and turnovers.

824
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean, that's fact about Sam Darnold. He had the

825
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: most turnovers of any player in the NFL, bumbles and

826
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: interceptions combined. Obviously, then he gets a crack against the

827
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: La Rams. You know, the the really the first kind

828
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: of major pressure moment type game he has donning the

829
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: colors of the Chickens, throws four picks, throws four interceptions. Yeah,

830
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, well, that's that's who they said

831
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 2: you were, and you know you're you're kind of it's

832
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: bearing fruit, that's who you are. And then he tries

833
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: to drive them down to win the game with a

834
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: very long kick from a Jason Myers, and they didn't win.

835
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: The game didn't work. But then we moved forward and

836
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: he has the obleaque, got a very big game against

837
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: San Francisco coming up, and that's Clint Kubiak coordinating the

838
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: Chickens and his brother Clay coordinating an injury riddle to

839
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: forty nine ers team. All right, and Darnald has no bleak,

840
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: so there's a built in excuse there if things go

841
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: pear shaped. He threw twelve times. He was seven of twelve.

842
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: So did they only let him throw twelve times in

843
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: that spot or was that what was required to win

844
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: a game like that? Yeah, the latter would be the

845
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: correct answer, and then you get the NFC title game.

846
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: He was fantastic. Yeah, he was unbelievable. It was fantastic.

847
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 5: So that's the key too, is he threw and he

848
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 5: threw another two picks in the second Rams matchup two

849
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 5: the prime time Wow, Darnald makes that late drive to

850
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 5: go ahead and just everyone's pumped.

851
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: I think that was a Thursday night game and they

852
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: hit Barner to win it.

853
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 5: Into that game against the Rams, the conversation is if

854
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 5: they can't run the Seahawks, if they can't run the

855
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 5: way that they have, and you're looking at they put

856
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 5: a Bucks seventy five on the Niners. Of course, he

857
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: only had to throw twelve times a buck eighty in

858
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 5: that season, the regular season finale against the Niners Bucks

859
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 5: sixty three, Bucks seventy one. You kind of get the hint.

860
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: How they were moving things with that Frey train. Charbonnet

861
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 5: at this time is healthy through all of that. I

862
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: wonder how that plays into the rushing attack.

863
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: But the idea of.

864
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 5: Sam rising to the occasion, I think what you saw

865
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 5: in that NFC title game has a lot of people

866
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 5: saying that it is over, that it is what we

867
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 5: are beyond that now, which leads you down foregone conclusion

868
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 5: road as we look ahead at the Super Bowl. I'm

869
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 5: not ready to get there, yet he does have one

870
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: more go do it.

871
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: Go finish it off. You have the better team and

872
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: you have the better weapons.

873
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 5: I think in totality you have more experience versus the

874
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 5: second year cat as good a year as Drake May's had.

875
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: Just now go win it, go finish it off. But man,

876
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 5: and I'm excited for him to have that opportunity. But

877
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: you hear it in his voice getting back to that audio,

878
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: how much he is connected with Clint during his short

879
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 5: time out there. He also had glowing things to say

880
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 5: about Minnesota during this process and everything, acknowledging what he

881
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: learned from Kevin O'Connell along the way. But he looks

882
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: at Clint, he looks at his time in San Francisco,

883
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 5: very very lovingly, and how important that was to him,

884
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 5: kind of turning this ship around in his career. And

885
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 5: and he has a terrific opportunity to close this thing

886
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: out and hoist the Lombardi and uh and we're just

887
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: gonna have to sit and be spectators and enjoy it

888
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: on Sunday here. So I wish I could have played

889
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 5: that for Gary. By the way, we might have time

890
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 5: zone terrorism now.

891
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: So here's the deal.

892
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: Let's see, uh, Gary's wife has texted me, Oh, Gary's

893
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: come down with the flu. I saw his phone was

894
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: blowing up a little bit. If he's better, maybe he

895
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: can call you guys tomorrow. But it's it's not a

896
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: good day. So sorry.

897
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: And that was nice.

898
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 4: That was nice.

899
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 5: I heard of text sorry uncle Gary coming down with

900
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 5: the bog.

901
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: Like who numbers that? Uh? Well, that all right?

902
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: Well maybe tomorrow for football immortality Gary Kubiek. But you know,

903
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: one one one thing I was going to bring up

904
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: with him is is Clint Kubiak his son. I mean,

905
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: just just think about you know you. I have a

906
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: twenty five year old son, twenty two year old daughter,

907
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: and have lived in the same home for about ten

908
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: or eleven years, and before that lived in another home

909
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: for quite some time. Nordo has three beautiful daughters.

910
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: What are the twins?

911
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 4: Ten? Ten?

912
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: Ten? The twins are ten, Hannah's two, two and a

913
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: half two. There we go.

914
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: Okay, lived in a western suburb house for X amount

915
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: of years now raising a family. And that's what a

916
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: majority of working world or working USA knows. I mean,

917
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: it's like kind of all we know. And I guess

918
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: some would say it's preferred now Clint. You know, he's

919
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 2: also a family man. How about the last half decade

920
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: for him? He was in Minnesota as offensive coordinator in

921
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, then each year from twenty twenty one,

922
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: he goes to Denver in twenty twenty two, then San

923
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: Francisco in twenty twenty three, then New Orleans as the

924
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in twenty four, then to Seattle this year.

925
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: I mean that's I mean, I just like, I don't

926
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: know does the family stay in Houston with the Koobiacs, Like,

927
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: how do you navigate that team's teams? They will, I

928
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: mean roll over and absolutely do their very best to

929
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: make sure things with your family is comfortable. You know,

930
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: they'll help you find places to rent, places to buy,

931
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 2: things like that. They get everything, if not most, things

932
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: set up for you spectacularly. And the Vikings over the

933
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: years have been really really good with that. With the

934
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: assistant Henry for the head coach Kevin or if it

935
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: was Mary working with a bunch of coaches before that,

936
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: they're just very dialed into knowing, Hey, this has been tough.

937
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 6: Man.

938
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: You were in Minnesota in twenty one, then Denver, then

939
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: San Francisco, the new Orleans. Now you're here, so let

940
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: us take a load off you so that you can

941
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: focus on what they hired you to do. So if

942
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: and or Winklin Kubiak becomes the head coach of the

943
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders, no guarantees there. It's kind of a

944
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 2: free spot on the Bengo card with those coaching jobs

945
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: that were open, and hopefully he can settle in there

946
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: for X amount of years. But just if everybody listening

947
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: or an order or you're surely if you just take

948
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: a step back and think what would it be like

949
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: with let's say six year old twins, and then you

950
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: have you have laughing crying baby in the equation and

951
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: you're in Minnesota. All right, Well, now Hannah's one where

952
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: we're going. We're going to Denver. Now Hannah's two where

953
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: we're going, and we're going to San Francisco, and then

954
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: we're going to New Orleans and then we're going to Seattle.

955
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean that, I just can't imagine. That's easy.

956
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 5: No, I think, what, well, I guess if I'm putting

957
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 5: myself in that position, that means my gal's not working.

958
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: So that kind of changes maybe day to day dynamics

959
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 5: in terms of what's happening at home.

960
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you probably saw it with your brothers and

961
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: your father and you know wife and or husband. I

962
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: mean a coach would know what they're getting into as

963
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: they look to ascend. Yeah, kind of somebody that.

964
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: Grew up like that is now actually on the managing

965
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: end of it. So there would definitely be some differences.

966
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 5: I honestly, I go, I think immediately to friendships and

967
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 5: relationships in season and just kind of what juggling okay,

968
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 5: new spot, what school are they going to go to,

969
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 5: and just trying to connect them. Maybe a lot of

970
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 5: their friends end up being you know, other kids as

971
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 5: part of coaching staffs and stuff like that. I just, yeah,

972
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 5: it sounds like it's difficult. It sounds like it's arduous.

973
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 5: Just I think all of us, in one way or

974
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 5: another one to plant our flag and have that home

975
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 5: base and so but hey, the life of a coach,

976
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 5: there are many frustrating angles of it. I think a

977
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 5: lot of people would say, hey, that's kind of a

978
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 5: blessed craft actually as well. So there's fun, there's a

979
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: lot of good things, and maybe managing and tackling that

980
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 5: scheduling and the chaotic part of it. You know, there's

981
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 5: there's I'm sure a lot of people out there would

982
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 5: be like, you know what, I'd be up for the challenge.

983
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: It'd be weird, it'd be different, but I'd be up

984
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: for that challenge.

985
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 2: Somebody up for a challenge of covering the Minnesota Vikings

986
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: for for a decade and change now is Ben Gesling,

987
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: And during the season it was courtesy of Standard Heating

988
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: and Air. We thank them very much for their inclusion.

989
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: The Scribe is going to join us around the corner

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Speaker 2: on KF A N