1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: So Michael, you're moving to nine to twelve five days 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: a week, and ten to one on the sixth day. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: More money because it's the big bloat torch and you're 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: not really going to be getting home until two two 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: thirty in the afternoon six days a week. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Now, let me get this right. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: Your wife retired, so she has the house all alone 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: and a bigger checking account. Ha insert Napoleon Dynamite lucky. 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: I like how they think that we're getting a race 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: if we move over to the other station. Wait, yeah, wait, yeah, 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: wait what what? 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: I don't know what, m oh I knows what I 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: was told, but I also know where I worked. It's 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: so I'll believe it when I see it. 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: It's true. 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Now you pointed out that we have what we've got 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: five hours over here, and then I look on the text. 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: Line this time slot yes, and this time slot yeah. 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: Why no, we may we may just have five hours 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: left too. 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: We don't know, yah, dude, yeah, true. 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: I mean they may come to their senses sometime between 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: now and Monday morning. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: It's close enough to Christmas. It's about that time. 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Uh zero nine nine zero wants to know, Mike, 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: why don't the ads mentioned the Kowai station number. 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: Do we have do we do? We have station numbers 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: ninety four one FM. 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: So do they? Here's what I We had a meeting yesterday. 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: We had a big meeting, you know. 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: I the offices that they have for well, not those offices, 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: but where our poor program director sits. His office is 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: not big enough for a meeting. It's not big enough 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: at all for a meeting. 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: True, two people could not sit at his desk. 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: There are there are three chairs in there, his chair 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: behind his l shaped desk, and then two chairs on 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: the front side of his desk pushed underneath. So I'd 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: beat you there, and I pull a chair over to 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: where you ended up standing. And then before you got there, 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: teper had to go to the bathroom. So then I 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: had to stand up and move so he could get 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: out to go to the bathroom. So that's why I thought, well, 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: this is stupid, so I moved the chair over to 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: against there must be a fire. 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: There's a little filing cabin, yeah. 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: File cameras something back there. So I got back in 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: that corner as far as I could to give you 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: room to put your fat ass in the chair, But 50 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: then you would be I would be behind you. 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: We'd be touching each other, and we don't know would not. 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: We would not. That was not gonna happen because I 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: had made s I'd already gotten the tape measure out 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: and measured that. You know, no, I will not be 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: touching him. 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: We barely tolerate each other being in separate. 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: Rooms, separated by glass, which I think will be bulletproof 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: over there. But you would not sit in that chair. 59 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: You refused to sit in that chair because I was 60 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: going to be behind your back. 61 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: And I have to I'm practically touch you. 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: That's not I've already I already have your back, but 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: you wouldn't let me sit behind your back. And then 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: the meeting went was interminably long. He wouldn't shut up. 65 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 2: He's so excited about this, and we're just like, we're 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: moving across the hole. 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: Have we changed nothing? 68 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: We emphasized that what you think a thousand times that 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: one out many times, many many times. Now are you sure? 70 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: In fact, we even brought up taxpayer relief shots and 71 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: it was like, yes, absolutely, that's all we want. 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: The textpay release shots will be Friday, the last hour 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: of the show. 74 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: Friday at eleven a Fridays just. 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: Like it is here, but it's just a few hours later, yes, 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: last hour on Friday. 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: So we need to get everyone now because I've had 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: some text messages, and we know that when you make 79 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: a change that some people are happy about it, some 80 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: people are unhappy about it. If you go over during 81 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: one of the breaks this morning, I know that a 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Rod had put something up on Instagram. So I was 83 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: over just looking at some of the comments, and it 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: was I hate Michael Brown. 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: I love Michael Brown. You're gonna look at the comment section. 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: Never look at the comment section. 87 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: Well, because I get because the person who said I 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: hate Michael Brown, I liked their comment, because I'll throw 89 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: them off because they'll be like, oh, somebody like somebody 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: liked my comment, and they'll say they'll look down see 91 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: who liked their comment and be oh, he liked my comment, 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: and then we'll see if they delete their comment or not. 93 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: It's so much. The thing is because that we had 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: that text here asking why don't we say the numbers 95 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: for the station? There's no real need to. 96 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: Which is what I wanted to get to. Are we 97 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: certain about this about what exactly on streaming or podcasting? 98 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? And Even if you tell your device like play 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: eight to fifty or play KOA on iHeart Radio, you 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: don't need to say eight to fifty. You don't need 101 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: to say ninety four one. Even when you're talking to Alexa, Hey, Alexa, 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: play KOA on iHeart Radio. You don't need to say 103 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: anything else. That's all you need. 104 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: It's all you need is KOA. 105 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: It's one of the big the three letter, three call 106 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: letter stations. 107 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: It's you know how many three call letter stations are 108 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: left in the country. 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, less than a half a dozen, I think. 110 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very few. Kf I koah, I gotta 111 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: lose track. 112 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. So that's 113 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: all you need. If you if you're talking to your device, 114 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 3: why I do is say play KOA. 115 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah now sat KOA is a preset on your device 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: also of course. 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 118 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll do that. 119 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: Delete k W. 120 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: As your as your presets. 121 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: Not sure if the bosses really want us to sit 122 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: there and say delete k W because this is still 123 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: a station known by the same company. We're just going 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: across the hall. But yeah, you don't want to listen. 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: Going across the hall. We must be going across the 126 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: interstate to the western Slope or to LA or somewhere. 127 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: It may just any thirty feet, but it's like it's there. 128 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: It's a different zip code over there, exactly. The demographics 129 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: over there a little different then the podcast. If you 130 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: already subscribe to the podcast, it will continue to be 131 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: fed to you. That doesn't the RSS feed does not change, 132 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: so you will still get the situation with Michael Brown. 133 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: You'll just get the three hours on KOA and so 134 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: the four hours on kh ow W, So that doesn't change. 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: We did get somebody email asking to make sure that 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: the website Michael says go here gets changed over and 137 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: that well, uh, the only other problem that they mentioned, 138 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: which we have no control over whatsoever because it's the 139 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: corporate back end stuff that they want to make sure 140 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: that the text line number changes. Again, we have no 141 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: control over that whatsoever. Chances are it may be Koa's 142 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: text line. 143 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: I'll email or today and make sure she can get 144 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: that done. If anybody can get it done, OI can 145 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: get it. 146 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: Well, we'll try, but no promises. 147 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: Well, it will get done eventually, no promises will be 148 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: done by Monday. Well, kind of like the bathrooms were repaired, 149 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: and now we find out the bathrooms really aren't repaired. 150 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: Twelve weeks. 151 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh, twelve weeks. 152 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: That's what it is. 153 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: Just saying yes, and so I can go number one 154 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: on number four, but I can't. I have to use 155 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: the little boy. 156 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: Urinal correct and I still would not go number two 157 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: on the fourth floor here. I'm concerned about the flushing 158 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: capabilities of those toilets. 159 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: By the way, if you don't believe us about the 160 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: perpetual flush, Dragon has it up on his Instagram, so 161 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: you can go watch the. 162 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: Your morning's in. It flushed for well over a minute. 163 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: Oh it finally did stop. 164 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: But right, yes, oh okay, because. 165 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: When I when I looked at it, I don't how 166 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: long I watched it, but it didn't seem to me 167 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: like it was slowing down whatsoever. Uh So, anyway, that KLZ, 168 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: you know, that's coming up fast when we think of it, 169 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: you know, it seems like a long time ago that 170 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: we started talking about this. They've been talking about it 171 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: for a long time, unbeknownst to us. 172 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: That's creepy. 173 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: It's very creepy because this was not just a local decision. 174 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: There was also a corporate decision and two of the 175 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: corporate guys that were in on that decision. I happen 176 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: to know both of them. One of them I know 177 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: very well. Actually one of my actually considered to be 178 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: a friend. The other one I just know in passing 179 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: and we've had conversations together before. But then it freaks 180 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: me out to think that for a year, they've been 181 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: listening to you and me. They've been listening to you 182 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: and me for a year, and they still want to 183 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: go do this. 184 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, what did we say that? It makes me a 185 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: little nervous. It's like, I'm not sure if everything I 186 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: said was kind. 187 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just setting us up for failure, right, but 188 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: we pretty well know failure anyway. Yeah, pretty much. We're 189 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: just a couple of losers that can't get work anywhere 190 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: else and just do this for the hell of it. 191 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: Have you ever used like I used one one time? 192 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why I did. 193 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: Oh it was a firm. 194 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: There's a firm, there's Klarna. I think PayPal is actually 195 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: doing this now too, after pay and then well, Affirm 196 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: is the one that I'm I want to focus on 197 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: for a moment. It was founded I don't know a 198 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: decade ago by the PayPal co founder Max Levchin, But 199 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: when he first started a firm, he was only used 200 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: on high purchases by a small handful of merchants. So, 201 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: if you're a small merchant, you've got somebody that wants 202 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: to buy a high dollar item. They don't want to 203 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: put it on their credit card. They don't want to 204 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: you know, pay interest or whatever. It was one of 205 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: these buy now, pay later services. Now, when I was 206 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: growing up, my mom would put stuff on layoway. Did 207 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: your mother have put stuff on layaway? 208 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, of course, and I did Christmas almost every year. 209 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, you go in and you just say like I 210 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: want to buy that, I want to put it on 211 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: the layaway. And then every week or every month or something, 212 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: you go into. 213 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: That store and you would put a little more cash down. 214 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: No more cash now. And then if you timed it 215 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: out right, Christmas came, you got it picked up, it 216 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: was already paid for. Get your Christmas paid for, and 217 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: you did not go in debt deferred gratification. So, prior 218 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: to the lockdowns, that buy now, pay later service, particularly 219 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: a firm, was pretty much obscured. Now you actually see 220 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: them advertising on television. I think I've seen klarn and 221 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: some of the others advertise on TV. Well after the 222 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: lockdowns in twenty twenty, when our money became even weaker, 223 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: suddenly they got partnerships with Apple pay Amazon. There was 224 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl ad and an IPO, an initial public 225 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: offering that brought a firm and the entire buy now, 226 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: Pay Later scheme to public and to a public. Debt 227 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: is already in debt. What I say in my American 228 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: financing spots that Americans own more than a trillion dollars 229 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: in credit card debt. Well, those who have now gone 230 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: off the well are still paying their minimum amount on 231 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: their credit card debt, are now still buying stuff and 232 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: not using defer gratification, And now they're using a firm 233 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: because if you pay within the timeline that you select, 234 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: if it's a short enough timeline, you don't pay any interest. 235 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: If you do pay over, I don't know what it is, 236 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: six months or twelve, I don't know, but you do 237 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: end up paying some interest, but you get your item now. 238 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: It's crazy. The first year that they went public, a 239 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: firm saw more than a four hundred percent increase in 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: people using buy now, Pay later services. But the problem 241 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: was they weren't buying like some big ass gift, you know, 242 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: like to get to get the kind of gift that 243 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: missus Redbeer deserves for Christmas. I might need to use 244 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: a firm because I just don't have enough cash to 245 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: pay for what she deserves putting up with him. But 246 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: now people are using it to buy essentials, groceries, gas, 247 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: even paying their utilities. Now I haven't looked at my 248 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: most recent Excel bill, but I got to say that 249 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: if Excel offers me the option to pay my monthly 250 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: electric bill over time, there's really something wrong with this. 251 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: And then starting last year, guess what a firm did. 252 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: They started rolling out a new requirement for bio metric ID. 253 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: So once again the old fashion problem reaction solution scheme 254 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: is getting used because it's being used under the guise 255 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: of safety and fraud prevention. By now pay Later is 256 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: going to soon require I bet they all require this 257 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: pretty soon, some sort of biometric ID. And then Visa 258 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: will be following close behind. Visa launched a payment pass 259 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: key last year. Now I haven't found it. Maybe it's 260 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: been offered to me and I've just rejected it. I 261 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: don't know. Which allows you to voluntarily make purchases with 262 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: your phones built in biometrics. Now I've got Apple Pay, 263 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: I've got my Apple cards set up on Apple Pay. 264 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: I've got a couple of credit cards, but I rarely, 265 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: if ever use it, and I don't know why. Some 266 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: people say it's more convenience. Some people say it's more secure. 267 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: I guess I'm just in the old boomer habit of 268 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: using a credit card. 269 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: Just like using my front pocket instead of my back pocket, 270 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: because my phone's in the front, my wallet's in the back. 271 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: If I already got my phone out Apple Pay, done, 272 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: but you. 273 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: Still have with Apple then make sure I got this right. 274 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: With Apple Pay, you pull up the cards you're going 275 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: to use, but you still have to use your face ID, right. 276 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: I just double clicked the side button and it, you know, 277 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: already opens up the wallet. Cards ready there, holding near 278 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: the reader. 279 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: Done, but you But all you have to do is 280 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: double click to. 281 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: Use it, Double click the side and make you know, 282 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: do the whole face ID on me. 283 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: Too, face ID double click at the same time. 284 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: No, no, no, just double click the side and you know, 285 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: then face ID then it opens up my wallet. 286 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: Okay, but then do you have more than one card there? 287 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: Yes? But you can set up primary. 288 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: Card primary cards, right right, Okay, so. 289 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: I've got to set that that card and you can 290 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: scroll through those two. 291 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: But if you're going to Taco Bell, how do you 292 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: do the face ID and still put the phone over 293 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: by the reader? 294 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: I don't do it through this mainly for like the 295 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: gas stations and uh king supers. 296 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, because it's just right there in front. 297 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: Of It's just right there in front of me, and 298 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: I've already got yeah. 299 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well again, I think it's the problem 300 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: reaction solution. The in fact VISA, according to some reports 301 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal and other places, wants to 302 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: make biometric first a requirement by twenty twenty six. In 303 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: other words, the old tap and pay, which we finally 304 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: got from Europe over here where you can just tap 305 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: your card, we finally got that, and now the international 306 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: banking cartels made it clear that this is where we 307 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: are headed. It's the only way the crypto AI control 308 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: grid can function. 309 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: Now. 310 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people will see it as 311 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: a major upgrade for tyranny and maybe an affront to 312 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: human free will. But I think a lot of people 313 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: are perfectly content with an authoritarian state that probably scares 314 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: me more than Mandani. You know, Zoefram himself are the 315 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: people who are cheering and screaming for all of this 316 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: control over every aspect of our lives. And the twenty 317 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: twenty lockdowns I think was the beginning of that really 318 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: rapid progress, the twenty twenty lockdowns. According to James Corbett 319 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: over the Corbett Report, tyranny and authoritarianism doesn't always look 320 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: like what we think it looks like. They can go 321 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: to the nineteen eighty four jack booted thugs with the 322 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: boot on the face of tyranny, or they can go 323 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: to all this Huxley break New World drugging people with soma, 324 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: making them love their servitude kind of tyranny, and either 325 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: one is bad. But at the very least, when you 326 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: have the nineteen eighty four you know, police state, big 327 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: brother kind of police state, at the very least people 328 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: know there is a tyrant and they know that the 329 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: boot is on their face. He writes, I think there 330 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: probably is a point at which you've invested your identity 331 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: so much in a certain political propaganda line that it 332 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: would be very difficult for you to come back from it, 333 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: which is why I think the COVID conversation basically disappeared 334 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: so quickly, I would add parenthetically. And that's why I 335 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: keep bringing it up, because so many people probably understood 336 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: intuitively that we had been had, but no one wants 337 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: to talk about. There was an FAA waiver that got 338 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: issued last March that made it legal for government agencies 339 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: and local police to do something. 340 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: Drag. 341 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: It's not going to go number two on the fourth floor. Dragon, 342 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: don't go number. 343 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: Two on any floor. Uh toilet? 344 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: My god, dragon, such an animal. 345 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 3: You can't tell me what to do. You're not my 346 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: real mom. Man. 347 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: Man, By the way, we got a new rule of engagement. 348 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: It just came across the transom, and it's it's pretty 349 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: darn good. It's less than it's less than fifty seconds. Yeah, yeah, 350 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: it's pretty good. Pretty good. So in fact, we'll just say, 351 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: let me look here. 352 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm titling that one flamethrower. 353 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: Flamethrower, Yeah, flamethrower that came to us from Richard. So 354 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: the rest of you shouldn't be Richard's and get your 355 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: rules of engagement in. 356 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: Now. 357 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: This is I shouldn't even say this because a lot 358 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: of you procrastinators will put it off, but we'd like 359 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: to have, you know, a really nice deep bank of 360 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: these to choose from, because remember, we have to train 361 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: that audience over there. Yes, now, I know that most 362 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: of you are going to follow me over there, which 363 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: is good because we've got the payroll all set up. 364 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: We went to ADP, We got it all set up 365 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: to make sure you continue to get paid. But we'll 366 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: cancel those checks in a New York minute if you 367 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: don't so. 368 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: And trust me, you want to do the rules of 369 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: engagement over Michael, because you're going to keep it under 370 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: a minute. Michael is going to take eight or nine 371 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: minutes if he has to do the rules of engagements. 372 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: That's why this whole thing started with you guys doing 373 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: the rule engagement because you're better at it than he is. 374 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: Is that necessary? 375 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: Yes? 376 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, biometric consent a new digital ID, but 377 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: nobody cares. I'm telling you a story today that nobody 378 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: cares because we all just go along with it and 379 00:19:52,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: we're all really happy to right. And the FAA Way 380 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: Waiver was issued last March that made it legal for 381 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: government agencies and local popo to operate drones beyond a 382 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: visual line of sight. Over large crowds of people in 383 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: the United States and since then, accompanied by the name 384 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: of Skydio Skydo Skydio is now deploying their quad copter 385 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: drones in just about every major US city. The drones 386 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: they've got thermal imaging cameras. They are operated without a 387 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: human user. They were developed and deployed by Israel starting 388 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: back in October twenty twenty three to track, trace, and 389 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: go after tens of thousands of Palestinians so called Palestinians 390 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: or Gosins or Amas or whatever. So the very same 391 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: drones used by the Department of Wards to surveil our enemies, 392 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: the same drones used by Israel to go after Hamas 393 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: or whomever, are now being launched every day in most 394 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: major US cities to track and trace every individual. And 395 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: then you have, on top of that the new financial 396 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: system now ready to be born out of the ashes 397 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: of the old, and all that will be required in 398 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: order to buy and sell will be your consent to 399 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: the biometric digital ID. A digital ID can be used 400 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: as a locator necessary for both AI or government run AI. 401 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: The second is the digital ID is well, you know 402 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: you got a Nazi concentration camp id by developed by A. 403 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: Hollerth and back then IDN. So it's part of this 404 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: AI war that we're living in. And while AI has 405 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: made my job somewhat easier, probably made other job easier. 406 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: It's also leading to the readily acceptable idea of just 407 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: giving up more of your biometrics so that they can 408 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: what track you further? Yeah, I think so. Moving on Trump, 409 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: the tariff man is he likes to call himself. Everybody 410 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: went ballistic yesterday because of the US Supreme Court's oral 411 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: argument about how to interpret a law from nineteen seventy seven. 412 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: It's called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act IPA IEEPA. 413 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: On April second, the Liberation Day, remember that the Trump 414 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: administration declared a national emergency, and when they did, they 415 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: imposed a ten percent baseline or global tariff on imports 416 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: from nearly every country. And the problem is they cited 417 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 2: the International Emergency Economic Powers Act as the legal basis 418 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: for doing so. Now that law empowers potus to quote, investigate, regulate, direct, 419 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: and compel any property in which any foreign country has 420 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: an interest. The words tariffs or duty does not appear 421 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: anywhere in that law. So the Trump administration points to 422 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: a president set by Richard Nixon. Because Nixon in nineteen 423 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: seventy one admit a trade dispute with Japan over currency 424 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: values imposted a ten percent duty on all imports coming 425 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: into the US from Japan. But that was nineteen seventy one. 426 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: I EEPA was enacted in nineteen seventy seven, and it 427 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: was enacted in nineteen seventy seven precisely to cut back 428 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: presidential power which Congress at the time really believed had 429 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: been abused by presidents under all the preceding law, mainly 430 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: the Trading with the Enemy Act, which dated all the 431 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: way back to nineteen seven and which had been passed 432 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: to regulate commerce with enemy powers during World War One. 433 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: So the Trump administration's legal case that the IEEPA the 434 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: International Emergency Economics Powers Act. Their legal case argues that 435 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: that law grants presidents effectively unlimited power to impose teriffts 436 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: tariffs regardless of existing trade treaties and without ratification or 437 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: approval by Congress, and I think that's weak. Already two 438 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: lower federal courts have rejected those arguments. So here's what 439 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: happened in the oral arguments yesterday in the Supring Court. 440 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: A lot of the justices obviously seemed skeptical. Amy Comy Barrett, 441 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: Trump appointee, asked this question. Quote and so is it 442 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: your contention that every country needed to be tariffed because 443 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: of threats to our defense and our dusty real base, 444 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: I mean, Spain, France. Pretty legitimate question. Justice gor Such, 445 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: another Trump appointee whom I very much admire, Warren quote 446 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: of a one way ratchet toward the gradual but continual 447 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: accretion assumption of power in the executive branch and away 448 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: from the people's elected representatives. Gore such, I think is telescoping, 449 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: much as Amy coming Barrett. Amy Comie Barrett is telescoping that. 450 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: I don't think this is what the law intended. And 451 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: Gore such is telescoping that. Oh, I think the way 452 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: you're interpreting this law violates the separation of powers, and 453 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: you're accumulating too much power in the presidency. So I 454 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: think the skepticism legitimately arises from the fact that Trump 455 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: is the first president to invoke the i ee PA 456 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: to imposed tariffs. If you go back to Trump's executive order, 457 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: the emergency that was required to trigger this law is 458 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: the problem of chronic us trade deficits were just we're 459 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: in a trade deficit with like everybody, and as Trump 460 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: likes to say, they've been stealing from us for years, 461 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: taking away our jobs, taking away our manufacturing, selling his 462 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: cheap crap and return blobbh. And he's right about that. 463 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: But his diagnosis, while controversy on legal terms, does tap into, 464 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: I think a political bipartisan belief. I think it's I 465 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 2: think this is truly bipartisan, that our long run prosperity 466 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: and security had been undermined by all these decades of 467 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: de industrialization, by all the decades of the unfair trade 468 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: practices by partners like China, and of course the obvious 469 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: offshoring and manufacturing under deals like NAFTA and the World 470 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: and the WTO. But but even if you describe decades 471 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: of de industrialization, even if they are described appropriately as 472 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: a national emergency, that doesn't follow that imposing a ten 473 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 2: percent tariff on all imports and potting on additional misname 474 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: reciprocal tariffs on specific countries that obviously were improvised at 475 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: the last minute on the basis of some bizarre formula 476 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: that we still to this day don't know that somehow 477 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: that adds up to a rational strategy for reshoring critical 478 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: American industries. But that's the political issue, that's not the 479 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: legal issue. Because it is one thing to argue that 480 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: our manufacturing and our defense base must be protected against 481 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: the dubbing of Chinese steel or autos it should be. 482 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: It's another thing to argue that national security and our 483 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: own reindustrialization require tariffs on Canadian dairy or Brazilian coffee. Indeed, 484 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: when you look at the Republican majority in the US Senate, 485 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: they've already pushed back as they voted to end the 486 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: national emergency that Trump used to impose those tariffs on Brazil, 487 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: and they passed a resolution against the levies on Canada. 488 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 2: But here's the bottom line. Both moves are symbolic unless 489 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: the Republican House follows suit. So, just in simple terms 490 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: of public policy, the best outcome, I think would be 491 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: for the court to rule that the president's authority to 492 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: impose tariffs under IEEPA, if it exists at all, should 493 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: be limited to specific strategic industries or to specific foreign 494 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: countries based on a legitimate national security concern. Got it? 495 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: That would be my preference for a court decision. Kind 496 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: of leaves most of them intact, take some of them away. 497 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: But what if some of them get taken away. That's 498 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: where we lose sight of the entire issue. Because even 499 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: if the Trump administration loses outright, court says no, you 500 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: can't do this at all, and so all of those 501 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: are rolled back. Guess what, And this is what bugs 502 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: the crap out of me, is that the cabal won't 503 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: tell you this. He could still impose tariffs based on 504 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: other laws which have more qualification than safeguards. He could use, 505 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: for example, the Trade Act of nineteen seventy four, which 506 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: fights against unfair foreign trade practices. He could use the 507 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: Trade Expansion Act of nineteen sixty two, which deals with 508 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: national security threats. So as the world economy kind of 509 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: fragments into rival military industrial blocks, terariffs will have to 510 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: be a part of the arsenal of every great power. 511 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: So Trump might lose this battle, but don't worry, he 512 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: can still win the war. I think they just picked 513 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: the wrong law to choose to impose the tariffs. And 514 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 2: I know they were probably all scrambling to find something, 515 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: but nobody really really dug around and said, oh wait 516 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: a minute, maybe we should do it here. Maybe we 517 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: should do particular tariffs under the Trade Act of nineteen 518 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: seventy four, which deals with unfair foreign trade practices, and 519 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: some of the others, like against China. We ought to 520 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: use a Trade Expansion Act of nineteen sixty two, which 521 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: specifically allows for national security threats. So all is not lost, 522 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: despite what everybody on cable news has been trying to 523 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: tell you for the past forty eight hours. 524 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: Now that Michael's hours are cut, he'll be now yodling 525 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 4: at this on the street corners with his ten cup 526 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: for extra money. 527 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: What do you mean now I do that? Now, that's 528 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: not going to change. 529 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever heard you yodel. Hey, I 530 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: don't think you ever will either. Yeah. I probably don't 531 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: want Yeah, you don't want to hear that? 532 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 2: Uh goobitter two three eight Michael, Every time I hear 533 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: that promo where you say you love us, I throw 534 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: up a little bit in my mouth. Please take it down. Oh, 535 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: trust us, we throw up a little bit too, because 536 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: you know that's not how we believe. We don't believe that. 537 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: What's we don't feel that way whatsoever. We can't stand 538 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: you guys. But we have a really nice production guy. 539 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: Who's incredibly busy. He not only just does production, but 540 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: he also works with the Broncos, and the Broncos are 541 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: doing really well right now, so he's really busy, really 542 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: really busy. 543 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah he's not like he's working for the Rockies, where 544 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, I like Jesse just you know, sleeps 545 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: through half the game. So yeah, AJ's really really busy. 546 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: And he probably heard that and thought, oh, that's really 547 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: nice for Michael to say. 548 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: That, right, because I don't think he's a p one 549 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: over here that listens to Yeah, I do not. 550 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: In fact, I would bet you all the next year's 551 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: salary that AJ is not a p one listening on 552 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: this station at all. So that's that's how that got 553 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: put in there. And just so you know, just like you, 554 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: we throw up a little bit every. 555 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: Time we hear it, too, but we also think it's 556 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: funny because it's right, so wrong. 557 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: Because it is so wrong. And then goober number forty 558 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: four to. 559 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: Sixty, we're not discrediting AJ's work. What's no, no, no, no, 560 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: he does fantastic work, trust what he does. 561 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: Right. In fact, we listened to it, you know, the 562 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: show opens remaining the same, but he's got you know, 563 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: the KOA, he's got everything fixed. It sounds really good. 564 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: We're really happy with that. Everything, all of that, all 565 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: my branding stuff will stay the same. But then forty 566 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: four sixty seven rights, Michael. You guys, some people still 567 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: have an antenor radio in their cars, and we need 568 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: to know the numbers eight fifty AM or ninety four 569 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: point one FM. Now that's during the weekday. Now during 570 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: the weekend seven sixty AM ninety three point seven FM 571 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: for the weekend program. That's freedom. If I'm thinking, uh, oh, no, 572 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: I've got I mean, I've got I've got radio on 573 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: both my cars. I think it shows. I think it 574 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: shows the call letters too. 575 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: Oh. It depends on how old your car is, too. 576 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're like me and driving around in 577 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, no, I just it just pops 578 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: up with the numbers. Numbers. 579 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: Okay, eight fifty AM, ninety four point one 580 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 3: Of them, all right, that's it.