1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Cincinnati Sports Station. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Yes said, I'm Awiger. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for listening. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: It's It's Friday at five poh four. You can't beat that, right, 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Hope your weekend is off to a great start. It's 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: a really nice looking Friday after noon. There's lots of 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: ground to cover between now and six o'clock. Fun sports weekend. 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: Lots of college basketball. Miami play tonight. The RedHawks are 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: one of the best stories in college basketball. We'll get 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: to that coming up here in just a bit. Can 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: I just pull the curtain back again really quick. I 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: am in the middle of typing out for the folks 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: on Twitter what's coming up this hour? And I was 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: almost done. So this is great radio when I do this, 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: but I don't want to leave it undone. We got 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: to get the folks on Twitter to listen on the 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. So hang on and doctor on the season 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: of the Emet bone injury. This is great radio. Listen 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: colon ESPN fifteen to thirty dot com slash Listen, which 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: will take you right to the iHeartRadio. 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: There we go. 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: We got that piece of business out of the way, 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: and now the sports talk radio presentation can commence the 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: week that was for the Bengals at the Combine. Coming 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: up in just about thirty five minutes, and we'll chat 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: with one of the experts from Ortho Sinsey about the 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: hammid bone injury, which has become a little bit of 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: an epidemic. I guess maybe that's not the right word. 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: It's not like it's contagious contagious, but there's a lot 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: of baseball players with hammid bone injuries. I'm also going 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: to ask about Lindsay Vaughn. We didn't talk a ton 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: about the Olympics beyond hockey on this show, but her 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: injury required four surgeries, and I guess there was the 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: possibility of amputation, which thankfully she avoided. And so we'll 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: get a medical experts opinion on what she went through 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: and so much more coming up in just a few minutes. 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: I was talking about this before the top of the hour. 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: By the way, I'll let you know that the Reds 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: are playing right now against the Angels. I got some 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: mean feedback from somebody who says, why are you updating 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: these Reds games that don't count? I don't know, because 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: people want to know what's going on in those games. 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: Sports fans, Reds fans who happen to be listening to 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: the show. It's four to two Angels through eight. Highlight 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: of the day, Red Louder's three innings of work hitless 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: is struck out three. We're talking before the top of 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 2: the hour. But the NFLPA report cards and like we 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: were making fun of the Steelers yesterday because they came 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: in dead last. Making fun of the Steelers for coming 50 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: in dead last with all the report cards, isn't about 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: the Bengals being great at everything, Clearly they're not. My 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: point was something I said about a month ago that 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: I think if you if you kind of forget about 54 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: like the Steelers brand and what that franchise has accomplished historically, 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: if you listen to people who talk about the Steelers, 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: cover the Steelers, who root for the Steelers, there's actually 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: more similarities between the two franchises than one might be 58 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: willing to and some of those similarities aren't that flattering. 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: And they were illustrated by the fact that with the 60 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: NFLPA report card there were complaints about facilities and the 61 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: field and stuff like that, and some of the same 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: stuff with the Bengals. Now, the Bengals got some really 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: high marks, got some really high marks with an A 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: minus for Zach Taylor got it really high marks with 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: the locker room, and the defensive coordinator and the offensive 66 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: coordinator Dan Pitcher got an A minus. Strength coaches got 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: an A defensive coordinator got a B plus. But what 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: stands out, and let's be honest, these are how report 69 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: cards work. I never failed a class in school, but 70 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: I remember in the sixth grade I got a D 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: in English. Every other class a's or b's. What's the 72 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: only grade my mom cared about the D. That's how 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: it works. Later on in high school pretty much a 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: C minus student. There were a's, but the C minuses 75 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: and d's Mom and dad cared about a lot more. 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: So that's how report cards worked then. That's how they 77 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: work now if kids actually still get report cards. Bengals 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: got an F minus for treatment of families. They got 79 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: an F minus for food and dining area. They got 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: an F for nutritionists slash dietitian. Now these are grades 81 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: based on player feedback and maybe like there are players 82 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: who have an axe to grind with the nutritionist, I 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: don't know, but it's hard to get an F minus. 84 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: If you have anybody who's like, actually, our families are 85 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: treated great in the grand scheme of things. Your perspective 86 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: may be, who cares about treatment of families, and that's 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: not an unreasonable perspective. I think what we're talking about 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: here is like amenities for kids daycare during games, perhaps 89 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: like special concession areas for players families. There was a 90 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: piece last year at ESPN dot com right around the 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: same time. Sarah Barshop was the writer, and she kind 92 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: of pointed out some of the things that fall under 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: the umbrella of treatment of families. Jesse Bates is quoted 94 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: in the piece where he's like, man, when I was 95 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: with the Bengals after games at home, I'd have to 96 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: go like into the parking lot to go meet up 97 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: with my family. And now at the Falcons in Atlanta 98 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: when games end, there's like a special waiting area for families. 99 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: And the Bengals in the story they acknowledge like this 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: is something we want to be better at. We've got 101 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: some plans, but apparently for this past season, players didn't 102 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: feel like they did enough. We're talking about meeting places, 103 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: we're talking about you know, family activities that some teams 104 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: engage in and some don't. Like one team has family 105 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: trick or treating for all the kids of the players 106 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: and coaches, and maybe the Bengals don't do that stuff. 107 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. Here's what I do know that there's 108 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: value in striving to do everything at the highest possible level, 109 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: at the highest possible level. I think in any business 110 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: that should be the goal do everything at the highest 111 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: possible level. Now, there could be things that restrict some 112 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: businesses from doing that. Maybe it's a budget, maybe it's personnel, 113 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: but the goal should always be to do things at 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: the highest possible level. And that goes for employees. It 115 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: also goes for employers. I once did my radio show 116 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: from outside an ice machine at the Super Bowl in 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: Santa Monica. Did I feel like we did that at 118 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: the highest possible level. No, That's why it was deeply frustrating, 119 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: completely candid didn't feel like we did that at the 120 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: highest possible level. So, if you're an NFL team, do 121 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: you do everything at the highest possible level? And it 122 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: might not matter to you that a player has to, 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, go out in the parking lot or go 124 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: somewhere that's not that convenient for him to meet up 125 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 2: with his girlfriend or his kids or his parents after 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: a game. And you might go, well, wait a minute. 127 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: You know, my job doesn't offer daycare, My job doesn't 128 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: offer amenities. My job they don't leave even acknowledge our families. 129 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: But you would feel different if your company's direct competitor 130 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: did those things in your company didn't like you would 131 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: feel different if there were other media companies that were 132 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: offering like, you know, these these incredible perks were like 133 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: there's an omelet station every Friday morning. I'd go, well, 134 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: wait a minute, how come we're not doing that. I 135 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: don't know why I came up with omelet station. Omelets 136 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: sound amazing right now. I would do the same, and 137 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: so would any one of my coworkers. So, like, this 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: stuff might sound like the complaints of rich, spoiled athletes, 139 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: but I think every single one of us we kind 140 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: of judge who were working for in our working environment 141 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: around you know, our company's competitors. That's all these players 142 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: are doing. By the way, there are other teams that 143 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: rank poorly when it came to family treatment, amenities stuff 144 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: like that. So the question is you have a choice. 145 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: You have a choice as a company. You have a 146 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: choice if you run a major professional sports franchise, are 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: we gonna do every single thing at the highest possible level, 148 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: or are we gonna do some of the things at 149 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: the highest possible level. The Bengals have apparently chosen to 150 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: not treat families, design a nutrition program, and have a 151 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 2: foonded dining area that is at the highest possible level. 152 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: That may have nothing to do with whether or not 153 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: they win games. The Bengals could win the Super Bowl, 154 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: and if they rank low in treatment of families and dietitian, 155 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: no one's going to care. But like all right, I believe, 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: and I think most would agree, that you have a 157 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: better chance of winning at the highest possible level of 158 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: having your team play at the highest possible level if 159 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: organizationally you do everything at the highest possible level. It's 160 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 2: about setting a standard. And so like all right, it 161 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: might not be a big deal to you that a 162 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: football player isn't thrilled with the dining area at the 163 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: facility that he works at. By the way, it's worth 164 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: mentioning locker room got a high grade training room, got 165 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: a high grade weight room, got a high grade like 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: really high grade. Weight Room got an A minus, Trading 167 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: Room a minus. So there's some really good stuff there, 168 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: really good stuff. But sure, man, if you want to 169 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: do if you want to win at the absolute highest level, 170 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: if you want to do everything that matters winning football 171 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: games at the highest possible level, then I think, and 172 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: I think anybody who runs a company would agree, then 173 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: we want to do everything at the highest possible level. 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: We want the best possible people, we want the best 175 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: possible facilities, we want the best possible stuff. We're gonna 176 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: set amazingly high standards everywhere, not just with a handful 177 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: of things. That's what this is about. To me. Some 178 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: will use this to just wail away on the Bengals, 179 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: and look, these results. They were not supposed to be publicized, 180 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: according to that one arbiter, but we all knew the 181 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: results were gonna be leaked in this particular regard the 182 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: Bengals have apparently chosen. We're not gonna do some of 183 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: this stuff, which ultimately may not resonate with many of 184 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: our fans. We're not going to some of this stuff 185 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: to the absolute maximum of our capabilities. We're not going 186 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: to do this stuff at the highest possible level at 187 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: some point as an organization. I wonder if I ran one, 188 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: like do I do? I want to do everything to 189 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: the best of my abilities at the highest possible level 190 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: for the Bengals some of this stuff, the answer is no. 191 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes after five o'clock, that's right. I brought up. 192 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: I brought up the Super Bowl shows, which like the 193 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: same thing. Like there are folks are like, dude, you 194 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: got a chance to do broadcast in the Super Bowl, 195 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like, hell, yeah, man, it was. 196 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: A dream come true. 197 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: Not sure was executed at the just absolute peak. And 198 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, we've learned lessons from it. Hopefully we get 199 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: another crack at it, We'll do better. 200 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: That's it. 201 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: Uh. 202 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: Five point three thirty is our phone number at Moeger 203 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: on Twitter. Thanks to Delta Dental, Delta Dental is building healthy, smart, 204 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: vibrant communities for all. Go to Delta Dental oh dot com. Uh, 205 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: it's the season of the Hammett bone in baseball, which 206 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: we're going to spend some time with one of the 207 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: experts from Ortho sincy On in just a few minutes. 208 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: But first, yes, yes, the Bearcats have a chance. And 209 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: the impressive thing about Miami to me coming up on 210 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Sports Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic. 211 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 5: One accident has been cleared away on southbound seventy five 212 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 5: that was between Western Avenue and Ezer Charles Drive. A 213 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 5: little bit of slow traffic still going through there. Lot 214 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 5: three lanes blocked from a vehicle fire southbound seventy one 215 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 5: seventy five approaching Kyle's Lane. I'm at Ezelic with traffic. 216 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: For more information about content with Tony and Austin. Looking 217 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: at Joelenardi's bracketology, I will admit to you that when 218 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: it comes to my bracketology, Joelnardi is not the first 219 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: place I go through. I have an extraordinary amount of 220 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: respect for him because I think few people have done 221 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: as much as he has over the last twenty years 222 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: and just you know, promoting something that a lot of 223 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: his love, which is trying to figure out who's going 224 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: to make the NCAA tournament. He's made a ton of 225 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: money off of it. He's been a guest on this show. 226 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: His book about bracketology is terrific. Just year in and 227 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: year out, it feels like there are people who are 228 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: just better at predicting who's going to make the tournament 229 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: and who's going to get which seed. But you know 230 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: he is the most well known guy. He lists his 231 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: latest bracket projection. He has Cincinnati not in it. That 232 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: would be stunning. He has Cincinnati not among the next 233 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 2: four out. I'm sorry, first four out. He has Cincinnati 234 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: seventy sixth. Which there you go. There's the argument for 235 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: expanding the tournament. Can they do it right now? 236 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: And now? 237 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: Again, this is one man's opinion. It's one man's pretty 238 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: educated opinion. So I feel two different things about this. 239 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: One is, where we were three weeks ago, we weren't 240 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: even entertaining the possibility. Now they have an extraordinary amount 241 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: of work to do. But I'm also reading bubble Watch 242 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: at the Athletic dot Com. There's a blurb on Cincinnati 243 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: like it feels like the door is open, not wide open, 244 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: maybe maybe not even like slightly a jar, perhaps slightly cracked. 245 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: Just this very much. They really didn't get docked for 246 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: losing to Texas Tech, but it was a huge missed opportunity. 247 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: They must win tomorrow. That's a Q three game, so 248 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: you're not really gonna get quote credit for it. But 249 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna be dinged heavily if you lose it. There's 250 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: a shan there's a chance. Now from a pure basketball perspective, 251 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: what you're asking this team to do, which they haven't 252 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 2: done all season long, is win at minimum five consecutive 253 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: games minimum. They haven't had a five game winning streak 254 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: this season. The most recent winning streak they had, which 255 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: was four games, included wins over Kansas State, which has 256 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: since fired its coach, and Utah. Kansas State and Utah 257 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: have a combined four conference wins. Oklahoma State is better 258 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: than both of those teams. Oklahoma State is not great 259 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: by any stretch five to ten in the conference, but 260 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: I feel like they're better than both those teams now. 261 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: Just as a quick aside for what it's worth. A Parsifala, 262 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: who averages a fourteen a game for Oklahoma State, suffered 263 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: a knee injury in their last game against West Virginian, 264 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: so he has done for the season. He has been 265 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: a double figure scoring college basketball for three years now. 266 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: That is a big loss for them. A guy who 267 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: shoots really well from the field, high percentage of shots. 268 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: That's a big loss for Oklahoma State. Still feel like 269 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: better than both k State and Utah. Cincinnati is gonna 270 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: have to beat Oklahoma State. They're also going to have 271 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: to beat a good BYU team, even without Richie Saunders formidable, 272 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: and that's putting it lightly. And then go to TCU 273 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: and TCU as a team that is scratching and clawing 274 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: its way into the tournament, that game is on the road, 275 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: plus when minimum two games in Kansas City. I feel 276 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: like the highest seed the Bearcats could possibly get realistically, 277 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: and I say this not emphatically, not with any certainty, 278 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: but I think it's a seventh seed. Like it from 279 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: a basketball perspective. All of their well established flaws, all 280 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: of their well established assets, and some of the things 281 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: they've done very very well recently all being taken into consideration. 282 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: For this team to make the tournament. Number one, they're 283 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: gonna have to go on a long winning streak. Their 284 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: longest winning streak this year is four games, done it twice. 285 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to be far more consistent on the 286 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: offensive end of the floor than they have been, and 287 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: you can't let your guard down the way they did 288 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: against Utah. They did win that game, but played poorly, 289 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: and they have to rebound better than they did against 290 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: Texas Tech. So purely from a basketball perspective, what we're 291 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: hoping they do is significant. Then, like, you have to 292 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: leap frog teams, and you gotta leap frog teams that 293 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: are going to get wins. So you're asking a lot here, man, 294 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: And that's the other part of this. It's like you 295 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: all right on one end, maybe you're in the conversation 296 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: if you win four or not four, five or six 297 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: in a row, But like, teams have to play themselves 298 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: off the bubble too. How many teams are gonna do 299 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: that when you have to leap frog a bunch. But 300 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: three weeks ago we weren't talking about this. Now we are, 301 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: and it will continue if they can get a win tomorrow. 302 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: Miami plays tonight, in fact, in about thirty five minutes 303 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: against Western Michigan. This is the thing that has stood 304 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: out to me over the last week or so about 305 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: the RedHawks. They have gotten and deserved a ton of attention, 306 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: and they're one of the best stories in college basketball. 307 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: They're one of the most interesting stories in college basketball 308 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: because of the argument about whether or not they should 309 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: make the tournament if they lose a game, specifically, if 310 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: they lose a game in the MAC Tournament, but they 311 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: still have three regular season games to go. I think 312 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: none of us would surprised if they lost one in 313 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 2: the regular season and then didn't win the MAC. If 314 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: they were on the outside losing in, I would still 315 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: believe there's a case they should get in, which means 316 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: they're taking the floor every night with a lot of pressure, 317 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure, a lot of eyeballs, a lot 318 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 2: of attention. And yet when you watch them play, and 319 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 2: I get it, finding Miami games is a little bit 320 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: more difficult than finding a UC or a Xavier gamer, 321 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: a Kentucky gamer, an Ohio State game. But when you 322 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: watch them, they don't look burdened. I remember in twenty 323 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: twenty one, the undefeated UC football team. They played a 324 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: game against Tulsa on the day that College Game Day 325 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: was at Nippert Stadium, and they won the game. They 326 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: didn't win it decisively, if I remember, they won the 327 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: game by a touchdown I think like maybe twenty seven 328 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: to twenty. And after the game, I remember hearing Luke 329 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: Fickle talk about the fact that he had to tell 330 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: his players it was okay to be happy that they won. 331 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: It was okay to celebrate a victory. They won that 332 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: game twenty eight to twenty to improve to nine to zero, 333 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: and there was something as that season went on where 334 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: you kind of felt like at times they were burdened 335 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: by having to be perfect style points, having to blow 336 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: everybody out. And they obviously finished the deal, got to 337 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff, went thirteen, and OHO won the 338 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: American Athletic Conference title, but there were times that year 339 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: where you kind of felt like they were burdened by 340 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: the pressure of having to be perfect. They overcame it. 341 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: Miami doesn't look like a team. I've watched Travis Steele talk. 342 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: I've seen him on shows, we've had him on ours. 343 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: He looks and sounds like somebody who's having a blast 344 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: coaching this team, and maybe he's doing that publicly to 345 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: kind of set a tone for his team. But they're 346 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: playing with the pressure of having to be perfect. Granted, 347 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: they still may make the tournament if they're not, but 348 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: it's going to open up the conversation entirely if they're not. 349 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: And by the way, they haven't closed out the MAC 350 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: title yet. Akron's still just one game behind. Obviously, Miami 351 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: wins the tiebreaker because they won the head to head. 352 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: But what's so impressive to me watching them play, listening 353 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: to Travis Steel talk, watching that program get attention. They 354 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: basically have to be perfect. They're being asked to be perfect, 355 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: and yet they don't look like or feel like they're 356 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: burdened by the need to achieve perfection. If Arizona was 357 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: undefeated right now, if Houston was undefeated right now, heck, 358 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: if you see r Xavier were undefeated right now, it 359 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 2: would be a story. But a loss wouldn't kill their season. 360 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: A loss wouldn't make people go, eh, you know what, 361 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: maybe not a tournament team. That's a lot of pressure 362 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: to play with. That's a lot of pressure to potentially 363 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: be burdened by having to be perfect. Miami thus far, 364 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: maybe it changes tonight doesn't seem burned. Twenty eight minutes 365 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: after five o'clock, we'll talk hammettbone injuries and how Olympia 366 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: and Lindsay Vaughn nearly lost her leg. 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It's gone final. 376 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: In Goodyear, Reds lost to the Los Angeles Angels of 377 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: Anaheim four to three. Ret Louder when three innings pitched 378 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: very well. Today's truck out three did not give up 379 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: a hit. He also struck out Jamer Candelario. That's right, 380 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 2: Jamer Candelario, Remember that dude. One of the worst free 381 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: agent signings in Red's history. He's with the Angels over 382 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: three two punchouts, kind of like he was with the Reds. 383 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: Julian Agiar gave up three runs in his two winnings 384 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: of work. Ultimately that's what cost him the game. Blede 385 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: had two hits, Travino had a couple of hits and 386 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: drove in a run. Blake Dunn hit his first home 387 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: run of the spring. Good for him, probably ran around 388 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: the bases really fast. Cincinnati takes on the Milwaukee Brewers tomorrow. 389 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: College hoops tonight beforementioned Miami RedHawks inaction in twenty five 390 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: minutes on the road against Western Michigan. Dayton takes on 391 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 2: George Washington in Washington. Tomorrow. Xavier host Georgetown at one thirty. 392 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: That game is on fifty five KRC. UC takes on 393 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State at two. That game is on seven hundred Wow. 394 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: Kentucky and Vanderbilt on ESPN fifteen thirty tomorrow. That is 395 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: going to be at two o'clock NKU and Wright State Tomorrow. 396 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: NKU hosts still have a chance to get a home 397 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: game in the Horizon League Tournament. Seven pm is your 398 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: tip off on ESPN fifteen thirty Senior Night, last regular 399 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: season game four. Darren Horn's team. Sunday, Ohio State battles Purdue. 400 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: Indiana takes on Michigan FC. Cincinnati at Minnesota Tomorrow. That 401 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: game is on the Project one hundred point seven and 402 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: one oh sixty three cyclone skate Tonight at Fort Wayne 403 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: Tomorrow at home for Kalamazoo. Sunday afternoon home for Kalamazoo 404 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: as well. After a brief post football season pause. We're 405 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: talking injuries as we do every week with one of 406 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: the experts from Ortho Sincy Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. The 407 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: great thing about Orthos Sincy is they have specialist locations 408 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: and services all over the Tri State, including walk in 409 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: orthopedic urgent care at five locations with extended evening and 410 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: weekend hours in Edgewood and Anderson. Learn more at orthosinc 411 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: dot com. That's Ortho ci Ncy dot com. Doctor John 412 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: Fridge from Orthosincy is with us. I'm going to ask 413 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: you about what's become a problem for a lot of 414 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: teams in baseball, that the hammett bone injury. We have 415 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: seen three high profile players, Corbin Carol, Francisco Lindor and 416 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: Jackson Holiday deal with this during the spring. So let's 417 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 2: start with the basics. What is a hammett bone? 418 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on the show. 419 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: Though. The hammate is one of the carpal bones, which 420 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: are the eight bones that make up your wrist. 421 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: It's on kind of the pinky side of. 422 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: The wrist, right in the bottom part of your palm. 423 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: Obviously, you can get hit by a pitch right because 424 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: you know your your hand is exposed. But this is 425 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: being called like a swing related type injury, where you 426 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: could literally hurt the injury and bust it by swinging 427 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: a bat. 428 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: How does that work exactly? 429 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: So, because the bone is prominent in the bottom part 430 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: of your palm, the people that are at risk are 431 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: people in gripping sports. So in baseball, you're gripping the 432 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: baseball bat, and the bat, the actual nod at the 433 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 4: bottom there kind of pushes up against the bone, so 434 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 4: that when you're striking something like the ball or hey, 435 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: if you're even checking the bat against the ground, it 436 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: can deliver that force directly to this little bone that's 437 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: in your palm and break it. 438 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: So how are these types of injuries typically treated. 439 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: I mean, in the average person oftentimes will monitor it, 440 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: immobilize it, allow it to heal, but it doesn't always heal. 441 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: And so oftentimes in professional athletes MLB players, they'll actually 442 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: get a surgery for this because it's a more predictable recovery. 443 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: The surgery for this, the little hook part that breaks off, 444 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: is to actually open it up and remove that and 445 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 4: then people can start the healing process and recovery. 446 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: What is the typical recovery time because we're talking about 447 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: I think, with all three of these guys, at least 448 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: the possibility that they could play, if not on opening 449 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: day soon thereafter. 450 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 4: Usually it's about six weeks, so the surgeries are pretty 451 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: straightforward procedure to remove that broken piece, They get sewn up, 452 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: they heal up. It's kind of a gradual process as 453 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: they're able to tolerate with the pain. But the hope 454 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: would be to have them return to play six weeks after. 455 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: Circ When can they begin rehab or as it's often 456 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: referred to as baseball related activities. 457 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: Immediately and so obviously not going directly into play, but 458 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: they're starting to rehab that Paul right away, having them 459 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 4: doing some sports specific exercises and kind of progressing them 460 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: based on. 461 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: Their degree of pain and where they're at. 462 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Lindsay Vaughan. So the 463 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: Olympics are over, but her road to recovery from the 464 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: injury she suffered in Italy is frankly just kind of 465 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: getting underway. And we could spend ten minutes just sort 466 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: of detailing the saga that she's been involved in. But 467 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: she suffered a tour acl during a World Cup event 468 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: in late January, and this was just prior to the Olympics. 469 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: Then she goes and competes in the Olympics despite the 470 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 2: ACL tear, and she suffers a catastrophic injury. The injury 471 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 2: doesn't appear to be related to the ACL tear, but 472 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: it's it's been a complete fracture left leg, tibia, fibular head, 473 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: tibio plateau. I'm reading some very clinical terms here, multiple surgeries. 474 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: I've read that like she was in danger of maybe 475 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: losing at least part of her leg. So there's so 476 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: much to unpack here. Let's start with this, How could 477 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: you even begin to compete at this level when you 478 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: have a tour ACL and you're a skier. 479 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And so I would say the average person like me, 480 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: for instance, if I tore my ACL, there's no way 481 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: I would be even getting around very easily. That just 482 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 4: speaks as to, I mean, just how an incredible athlete 483 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 4: Lindsay Bonn is. She is at such a level that 484 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: she tore ACL and you see these videos of her 485 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 4: days after doing box jumps and squats, and that just 486 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: speaks to her level of conditioning. I mean, you can 487 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 4: to some degree compensate for the instability of an acl 488 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: tear with better muscle strength and appropriateception. And I think 489 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: just because she's such a high level athlete, she was 490 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: able to compensate pretty quickly. 491 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: So she she suffers the injury at the Olympics, and 492 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: then before she can come back to the US, she 493 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: goes through four surgeries. Roll through this for me, like, 494 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: what are the different types of surgeries? Give me the 495 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: extent of this injury that she's been dealing with. 496 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 4: Of course, so in competition out in Italy, we of 497 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: course clip that gate and take this nasty fall and 498 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 4: didn't know the full details of it at that time, 499 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: but it's now come to light she did sustain a 500 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 4: very severe injury to her tibia, and so when she 501 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: had that twisting moment of the leg, she essentially shattered 502 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 4: the top part of her. 503 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: Tibia into the knee joint. 504 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: When they talk about a tibial plateau fracture, that just 505 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: means that she broke into the top part of her 506 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: tibia bone as it enters the knee joint, and those 507 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: are usually high energy, very complex injuries, meaning it's broken 508 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 4: into moldmultiple pieces, and looking at her X rays, that's 509 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 4: what happened to her as a result of an injury 510 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 4: like that, it's not only damage to the bone, but 511 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 4: to the soft tissues as well. And so when you 512 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: have that degree of breakage of your bone, it bleeds 513 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 4: into the area. Now, your muscles surrounding the tibia are 514 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: divided into different compartments. There's four different compartments of your 515 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 4: lower leg, and they function to help serve the muscle 516 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 4: to contract in those different compartments and perform the different 517 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: functions that you're like, well, those compartments don't really allow 518 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: much for swelling, and so when you break and they 519 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: bleed into that compartment, they get overly tight, and they 520 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 4: can get so tight that it cuts off blood flow 521 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 4: and oxygen too that compartment and the muscle can die 522 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 4: and that's when you have an emergency, which is what 523 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: she had. And so when they talk about compartment syndrome, 524 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: that's that bleeding and pressure into that compartment, and that's 525 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: an orthopedic emergency. They need surgery immediately to open the 526 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: leg up, open up that compartment to give the muscle 527 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: room to breathe so that it doesn't get cut off 528 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: and die. And so it sounds like she was rushed 529 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: into surgery to have fasciotomies, which is where we cut 530 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 4: open those compartments to allow the muscles to breathe, and 531 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 4: over time additional surgeries to continue, kind of gradually closing. 532 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: Those openings until she could get her fracture there. 533 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: At what point do they decide that she's okay to travel? 534 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: Because that's not a quick puddle jumper, that's a long flight. 535 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: Not at all, and so I'm sure they had to 536 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: arrange for specific medical transport on a flight and low 537 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: altitude because there's some risk of blood clots. My guess 538 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: is they got her to a point where the fracture 539 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 4: was stabilized with an external fixeror they were able to 540 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: close the skin finally to reduce her risk of infection 541 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: so that they could get her back to the States 542 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 4: for her more definitive procedure to fix her fracture. 543 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: She has stated a desired to compete again. I guess, 544 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: knowing what I know about Lindsay Vaughan, I would not 545 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: rule that out. But is that realistic? 546 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: Uh? For the Warner person. Probably not. 547 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 4: I think anything's possible, to be quite honest, Although she 548 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 4: had a severe, tremendous injury. I mean, she has demonstrated 549 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: time and time again. She has incredible recovery potential. I 550 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: think if she received the proper care, she got this 551 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 4: fixed appropriately. But it's a matter of healing and then 552 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: after healing kind of doing the appropriate rehab to return 553 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 4: normal function and high level function in her incidents. I 554 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: think it's a possibility, but only the future will tell. 555 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: That's awesome stuff. 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We'll have our guy from 592 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: the draft website, which I'm completely and totally blanking on 593 00:32:54,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: even though I absolutely love it, grinding Mox. I was 594 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: thinking gridiron grinding mox Ben Robinson. I forgot the name 595 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: of the website, but the interview was great. Lindsay Rhodes 596 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: from Sumer Sports was terrific as well. All of that 597 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: stuff is available on the iHeartRadio app podcast of this show, 598 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: or a service of long Neck Sports Grill. By the way, 599 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: if if you're looking for a place to have dinner 600 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: tonight but you know you can't eat meat, well guess 601 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: what They've got tons of hearty meatless favorites at long 602 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: Neck's Seafood Classics Tomorrow ten dollars weekend Brunch special which 603 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: is available tomorrow and Sunday from eleven am to one pm. 604 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: So take advantage of that. Three locations. You got Wilder, 605 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: you got rich Wood, and the brand new location in 606 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: Hebron which is definitely worth checking out. Oh and by 607 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: the way, tons of ice cold beer as well. Let's 608 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: see here. Jeff in Lexington has been hanging on for 609 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: a while. Jeff, it's been a while since we heard 610 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: from you. What's up? 611 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 6: What do you say? Moh, my fellow bourbon and cigar 612 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 6: loving friend, my. 613 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: Guy, what's going on? I'm great, man, Hey, listen. 614 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 6: Uh, I just got to say thank you real quick 615 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 6: because I know your rest of the time. About a 616 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 6: year ago, it calls you and you recommended a good 617 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 6: book about the old abah to me. You remember what 618 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 6: it was, loose. 619 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: Ball, Loose Balls r Balls. 620 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 7: Yes, man, I've been slowly getting my way through that thing, 621 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 7: and I've been reading it over the winner and of 622 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 7: course with that, Uh, what is the prime video four 623 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 7: part series? 624 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 6: Yes, about the age watching they Oh, I've watched every 625 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 6: bit of it. Yeah, man, And and it really goes 626 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 6: hand in hand too. I mean that it's it's pretty 627 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 6: much word for word, what the what's in the series. 628 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: The book is really good, oh. 629 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: For First of all, the book itself, Loose Balls by 630 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: Terry Pluto, one of the seminal books of my youth. 631 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 2: It's one of my five favorite all time sports books. 632 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: It might be even closer to the top, but Soul Power, 633 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: which is on Amazon Prime. It's a four part dot 634 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: documentary outlining the history, the rise, the history, and ultimately 635 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: the demise of the ABA is awesome. Like, I learned 636 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: more about that league than I even learned from reading 637 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: that book. It's been a while since I've read that book. 638 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: They get a ton of former players, they get a 639 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: ton of Bob Costas is a part of it. He 640 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: was the voice of the Virginia Squires. They have, you know, 641 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: guys like Charles Barkley. They have extensive interviews with doctor Jay. 642 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: The archival footage is awesome. In the last two weeks, 643 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: I've watched that and the Netflix eighty US Olympic Hockey 644 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: Team documentary. I don't think I'll watch a better sports 645 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: doc this year than either of those two. 646 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 6: No sir, No sir, But I really enjoyed that tremendously. 647 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 6: And I'm a little bit older than you. I kind 648 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 6: of grew up with the ABA, and I, of course, 649 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 6: when I was about ten, eleven, twelve years old, I 650 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 6: had to have. 651 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 3: A ball, you know, and yeah, right, white blue ball. 652 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, it brings by so much nostalgia. But I just 653 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 6: wanted to say thank you. That book has been amazing. 654 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 4: Man. 655 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: Well, I cannot recommend it enough. Jeff it's always nice 656 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: to hear from you. Loose Balls by Terry Pluto, which 657 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: is a wild and crazy romp through the American Basketball Association. 658 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: If that's not your jam, if you're looking for something 659 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: to watch this weekend, the ABA doc on Prime which 660 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: is called Soul Power Like, there's extensive coverage of some 661 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 2: of those great ABA Indiana Pacers teams, and they talk 662 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: to a lot of the former players. They tell the 663 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: history of the Kentucky Colonels. They also heartbreakingly so kind 664 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: of tell the story of what it took for a 665 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: lot of those ABA players to get medical coverage. You know, 666 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: there was a merger where not every ABA team moved 667 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 2: to the NBA, but obviously teams like the Nets and 668 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 2: Spurs and Pacers did and it wasn't until four years 669 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: ago that the NBA and the NBA PA started to 670 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 2: cover the medical benefits of some of those ABA players 671 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: from the early to mid seventies. And there's some heartbreaking stories, 672 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: but it's it's fun. They tell the story of the 673 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: two Saint Louis Hawks owners who when the Hawks dissolved. 674 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: When the NBA and ABA merged, they got into a 675 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: TV deal with the NBA that gave them a percentage 676 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: of all future national TV revenues and made those guys billionaires. 677 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: The Silinder brothers own the Saint Louis Hawks, and they 678 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 2: got paid for decades until the agreement. The NBA finally 679 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: got out of the agreement. I want to say, like 680 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 2: ten years ago. It's an awesome sports documentary, the eighty 681 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: US Olympic Hockey Team doc. And there's obviously been renewed 682 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: interest in that team because of the hockey success Americans 683 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: have enjoyed in the Olympics. That documentary for a team 684 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: that's had its story told a thousand times, they approach 685 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: it from a completely new perspective in many respects. That 686 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: is awesome. That is on Netflix, the ABA doc If 687 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: you love Basketball, if you love Basketball History. It's four 688 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 2: parts each an hour. You owe it to yourself. There 689 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: you go, and both Netflix and Prime can paign for 690 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: the free plug. We gotta go. Uh We're back Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, 691 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: three oh five. Did our did Matt learn anything? Is 692 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: he gonna come back? 693 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 3: I haven't scared him away. He's still here, all right, 694 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 3: very good, all. 695 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna teach him. And had a hard time 696 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: this is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 697 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 3: Race car drivers like NASCAR champion