WEBVTT - 01/07/26 - Hour 1

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no bs on the game, Billy and sorry and

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<v Speaker 2>with you waking up on a beautiful morning in the

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<v Speaker 2>good Land as bears packers. We continues and we try

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<v Speaker 2>to get over the hump with you. We'll do it

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<v Speaker 2>at eight seven seven seven nine four seven three through

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<v Speaker 2>some horrendous tech to start, but we will be able

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<v Speaker 2>to dominate the airwaves together over the next four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>At eight seven seven seven nine four nine seven three.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Billy Schmidt alongside my main man Arm and Sarian.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's up, Billy? Good morning? Is it good?

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<v Speaker 3>And there you get you got some uh how's your

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<v Speaker 3>mic doing it? There?

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<v Speaker 1>You can sound good?

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<v Speaker 2>Horrendous. I I don't believe the mic is good. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe the headphones are good. But guess what, we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the air. And after some incredible alarm melfeasans by

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<v Speaker 2>your boy, I have now been awake for thirteen and

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<v Speaker 2>a half minutes. But we've all been live on the

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<v Speaker 2>radio at six oh one, which is a hell of

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<v Speaker 2>a start.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's impressive work by you actually to get here

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<v Speaker 3>as quick as I. We've all been there, you know

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<v Speaker 3>in our radio life. I have been I think I've

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<v Speaker 3>been woken at one point four minutes before the show

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<v Speaker 3>or six. Obviously couldn't get there in that time. But

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<v Speaker 3>there have been some moments like that where you do

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<v Speaker 3>have those panic moments, and those are the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the ones you uh you remember. I remember I almost

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<v Speaker 3>slept in for my last final in college, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was as I was running down Wisconsin Avenue in the

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<v Speaker 3>rain with.

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<v Speaker 1>I did have clothes on. I mean, I luckily was

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<v Speaker 1>awaken up to remember to put clothes on.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have one of those moments where I did,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was running through the rain, thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always gonna remember this, like I'm always gonna be able.

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<v Speaker 1>To about this. At some point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna laugh about this. At some point, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>tell this story one day. I will say this. I

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<v Speaker 3>felt prepared for the exam. Probably why I was so

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<v Speaker 3>tired because I was studying all night, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Well, that's diligent. I'm just a diligent student, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I was up studying all night for the exam, and

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, I remember to myself, I think I lived

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<v Speaker 3>like as far as I could away from the building,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a Murphy's Law thing, and I said

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<v Speaker 3>to myself, I'm gonna remember this one that I remember

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<v Speaker 3>running through the rain on Wisconsin Avenue in my new

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<v Speaker 3>balanced sixth seventies. Whatever I was wearing, I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like just sprinting in the rain. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I get there. But you know what, Yeah, in college,

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<v Speaker 3>you had two hours for a final, right, and who

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<v Speaker 3>used the full two hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Back then?

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<v Speaker 3>We had blue books. Now I heard their blue bringing

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<v Speaker 3>blue books back. Blue books were the things you had

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<v Speaker 3>to write in, you know, for finals you need get

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<v Speaker 3>to write to answer the questions in the essays. By

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<v Speaker 3>the way, I heard they're bringing those back. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if you used blue books, as you're a little

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<v Speaker 3>younger than me in college when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Went to Carroll College.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't. Can't say. At Carroll University we were

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<v Speaker 2>using many blue books.

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<v Speaker 3>Were awesome because because you couldn't cheat in those ais. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I hear what you're saying. Yes, okay, I get that,

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<v Speaker 3>But they're trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To prevent AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Now kids are using AI for their finals like stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that, like their chat gpting, like their finals and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I read a whole thing about this Billy, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you know, there's I would have been able to

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<v Speaker 2>read the same story. It feels like a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like the return of blue books.

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<v Speaker 3>And then so it was basically if you were a

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<v Speaker 3>gen xer or even like me, an elder millennial which

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<v Speaker 3>I hate call myself money elder millennial okay, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was like reality for a while, you didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be associated millennials now gen z. But like for elder millennials,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh wow, I feel seen blue books are back.

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Books are back.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've seen Tommy Boy with Chris Farley, he was,

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<v Speaker 3>uh right at the beginning of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in the doing using a.

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<v Speaker 3>Blue book for his final for his final exam the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of the movie, so one of the classics, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>But Billy, I've been there. We've all been there.

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<v Speaker 3>No problem, no harm, no foul.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on the air.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna be talking about many things since it is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hump Day and is Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually good one.

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<v Speaker 2>And listen, like, I actually didn't have the panic moment

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<v Speaker 2>that you did where I start thinking about all that. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>actually I said, my wife just hit me in the

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<v Speaker 2>arm and say, hey, it's five forty eight, it's time

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<v Speaker 2>to go. Don't You're supposed to be here, And luckily

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<v Speaker 2>definitely wasn't supposed to be here, but by the grace

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<v Speaker 2>of God and by no snow, which is we're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of aided by by the weather, as cold as it

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<v Speaker 2>was and as rain soaked as the state is, with

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<v Speaker 2>this not being snow and it not being five to

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<v Speaker 2>seven degrees colder across the state, and this being an

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<v Speaker 2>insane ice storm, that would have been a heck of

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<v Speaker 2>a time to roll, and that would have been a

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous time. As Danny p and the Shaw says Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen and a half minutes haul into work. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually haven't even taken my jacket off, nor did I

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<v Speaker 2>change when waking.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, So I actually got out of bed straight to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Door, luckily for the one time in i'd say my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that might be a tick dramatic for

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<v Speaker 2>the maybe the first time this year, it said it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit lower for the last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually did hang out the keys. That's nice. You didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to spend extra time speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes at least a minute and a half to

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<v Speaker 2>find the keys. That's a big folks there already prompt

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time, you have like fumbling around with

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<v Speaker 2>socks because you're probably wearing crocs. I haven't seen yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you rocking the crocs?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I I got shoes. Let's go, let's going. I

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't change at all, Like I big win.

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<v Speaker 2>I usually don't sleep in socks, but here I am

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping in the socks and already rolling in with them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a blessing and a lesson here. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The one is like, you know, you had somewhere to

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<v Speaker 3>go this morning, and John Harbaugh didn't like our careers

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<v Speaker 3>lasted long as Jim John Harbaugh. That's a Jim John Harbaugh.

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<v Speaker 3>Our careers lasted longer than John Harbaugh. I gotta say

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty proud of that. I mean, that might be

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<v Speaker 3>something that I one day put on my greatest accomplishments,

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<v Speaker 3>like out like, you know, outlasted John Harbaugh at his job.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't really think I would do that at

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<v Speaker 3>some points.

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<v Speaker 1>In my life. You've been here for eighteen years, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Not at this station. No, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in a bit, But you didn't out last him

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<v Speaker 1>longer than that.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, because I'm still working. Well, he's been sure,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my point. That's a hell of a way. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a hell of a way to change it when he

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<v Speaker 2>had a twenty year head start on you. But I like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I like it a lot. You lost this job before

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I mean, that's impressive work to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, it's hard to be at one spot

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL that long, right anyway, It's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>be at one spot anywhere in life that long. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>any job. I mean, you know, these aren't really the

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<v Speaker 3>days anymore where people are working jobs for like thirty

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<v Speaker 3>and forty years. So it'll last that long in one job,

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<v Speaker 3>especially coaching, especially in the National Football League, like you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, unless you're like Jerry Pettigue, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>keep a city, you know, you don't last in that

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<v Speaker 3>long usually one spot. So that's why kind of Billy,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll get into it, I'm sure more as the

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<v Speaker 3>day goes on. It was kind of a shock to

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<v Speaker 3>see that, just because you always expected him to be

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<v Speaker 3>there like he was kind of you know, him and

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<v Speaker 3>my Tamlin, like those guys are like the standard bearers

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<v Speaker 3>of their position in terms of staying entrenched in one

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<v Speaker 3>spot for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was thought it was pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, you know, we outlastd we at

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<v Speaker 3>aasked John Harball, that's pretty big.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not gonna use the week you can.

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<v Speaker 2>You can use the outlasted shot Harbaugh because he got

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<v Speaker 2>that job when I was in middle school. So I

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<v Speaker 2>mean like, there's there's a lot of years and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of bank equity on John Harbaugh. And whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not it ends up being the right decision is still

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<v Speaker 2>one that time will tell, because as you leave after

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen seasons, sometimes a message gets sale, sometimes things change.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you just simply need a little bit different voice.

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<v Speaker 2>And frankly, that's kind of what it sounded like reading

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<v Speaker 2>some of Bushatti's comments yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand it and I don't because when when an

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<v Speaker 2>owner has to make that decision and fire out the fancy,

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<v Speaker 2>fancy letterhead and give a big statement a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>it again, like Kevin Stefans, we'll never forget his six

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<v Speaker 2>years here, Well, yeah, because they're you're also six years

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Berry with your hands covered in the entire roster,

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<v Speaker 2>which actually is getting better, so that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of understand the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best team that they've had, they thought roster

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<v Speaker 2>wise in a decade or so. However, when your quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>goes down for the majority of the season, you start

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<v Speaker 2>one in five. I get that there could be some

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<v Speaker 2>coaching that you feel like was preventing this, but it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like there was going to be a divorce between

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback and the coach, and it's a lot easier

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<v Speaker 2>to fire the coach than the quarterback. Even though Lamar

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have any guaranteed money in his final two years

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<v Speaker 2>of his deal, they've already broached the conversation of a

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<v Speaker 2>potential extension. Apparently those talks kind of got shut down

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly. It's still easier to fire the coach that

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<v Speaker 2>at the top end, top into the market is making

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen to twenty million dollars when your quarterback is in

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty million dollar ring.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's a good point too, Billy, is

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<v Speaker 3>that a lot of coaches aren't aren't staying in one

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<v Speaker 3>place so long, even though starting salaries are hard and

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<v Speaker 3>they've ever been to be making that much money, So

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be making sure you know you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of return on your investment if you are

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<v Speaker 3>the organization. I mean, it's easy to just to say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there's endless amounts of money in the league now,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a you know, obviously the money's infinite, and

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<v Speaker 3>coaching salaries don't count for a cap, right, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>not worried about.

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<v Speaker 1>That part of it. But you're like, all right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>paying a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot for a head coach. We have one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>We think we do.

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<v Speaker 3>But if ownership feels like the team's plateaued and a

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<v Speaker 3>change is necessary, and you it's very very easy to

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<v Speaker 3>start talking yourself into these things when you haven't won

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<v Speaker 3>a championship in long enough with a team that you

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<v Speaker 3>believe has a lot of talent.

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<v Speaker 1>And no matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>People teams, the industry, everybody, you'll always think it'll always

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<v Speaker 3>be intuitive to think that a special athletic talent is

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<v Speaker 3>much more at a premium than a coach, right because

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<v Speaker 3>the thought is like their coaches being made every day,

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<v Speaker 3>and coaches are it's you know, the coaching position is

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<v Speaker 3>something you do with your mind. The coaching position is

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<v Speaker 3>something you do with your body or soul. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>not an athletic endeavor, So it's always going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the coach, not the player.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always going to be It's like, if you really

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<v Speaker 1>believe Lamar is one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of those special guys in that position, and you believe

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<v Speaker 3>Derek Henry's that special guy at that position, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>are we just gonna you know? Right? Like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>it's much easier to fire coach than a whole team.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very easy to convince yourself of that. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what we're plateauing. The message is getting stale, even

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<v Speaker 3>though it's been great, even though, like objectively, it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to think of ourselves as getting a better coach than

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<v Speaker 3>John Harbaugh. Maybe there's a new fresher coach, a new

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<v Speaker 3>fresher voice, new ideas. It's very easy to convince yourself

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<v Speaker 3>of that. And I think that sometimes that's true. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember Dennis Green used to say it, nine years is

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<v Speaker 3>the limit, Like nine years is too much for one

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<v Speaker 3>voice to get stale. And it doesn't mean he's not

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<v Speaker 3>a good coach, doesn't mean he's not one of the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest ever, doesn't mean he's not gonna still get other jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think they I think people fall into the

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<v Speaker 3>trap of well, if so and so will get offers,

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<v Speaker 3>And we're going through this little bit of Matt Lafleur

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<v Speaker 3>right now with the word with kind of the rumors

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<v Speaker 3>about him gett an extension like would other teams be

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<v Speaker 3>interested if so and so coach would get other opportunities. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 3>that means you can't fire him or you can't move on,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think both can be true. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>people fall into that trap a lot, thinking, well, look,

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<v Speaker 3>if other teams want him, then we should want him

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<v Speaker 3>to If other things teams think he should be their

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<v Speaker 3>head coach, then that means you you can't make a

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<v Speaker 3>move and get better. And I don't think that's always

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<v Speaker 3>the case, but I think people follow to that trap sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well okay, yeah, I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to figure out where you where you actually

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<v Speaker 2>sit on the take because what you said is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Both things kind of can be but one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is going to take over. And too many times we

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<v Speaker 2>think different is better, we just simply assign different to better.

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<v Speaker 1>How many better coaches are there in the NFL than

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<v Speaker 1>John Harber.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not many I can think of objectively, Right, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't you don't think to yourself, all this gotta be

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<v Speaker 3>like and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think the Ravens might find that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, Like I mean this is this there's a

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<v Speaker 2>time when you realize, like y'all don't always go from

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<v Speaker 2>good to great. Sometimes you go from good to average. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you go from good to not good. And then

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<v Speaker 2>what that does to the organization over the next five

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<v Speaker 2>to seven years is drop it completely down into you

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<v Speaker 2>were one of the best organizations in the league to

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<v Speaker 2>swimming in a massive pool of mediocrity. Now, I also, again,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm too maybe I'm too cautious with this. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I do think players end up determining the outcome of games.

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to agree on that now.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, coaches are an important part of the game. I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes, like you said, arm and they're too easily

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<v Speaker 2>identified as well. They lost, that's coaching. They didn't score

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<v Speaker 2>on their first two drives, that's coach. They were consistently

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<v Speaker 2>lined up wrong, Well, that's coaching. Well, the coaching is

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<v Speaker 2>still lining them up every single day correctly, consistently knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what in harping on the fundamentals as to where you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to line up. But it is a game played

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<v Speaker 2>by humans and they're still gonna be able to make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm interested to find out where Baltimore goes. And

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<v Speaker 2>I liked Brian Harlan, John Harbaugh's agent right away in

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<v Speaker 2>the story, saying seven teams reached out within forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hold on one second, one Arizona, New York. There's

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<v Speaker 3>seven openings. You're one of them. So what was the

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<v Speaker 3>mystery seven team? Right that reached out to John Harbaugh? Immediately, packers,

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<v Speaker 3>fans heads are swirling, crazeackers.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to reach out. The packers are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get John Harbaugh. The backers are.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say it once again, Matt Lafleur's just the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>and discourse more around Matt Lafleur, in my opinion is

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<v Speaker 2>does he get a two year extension or a three

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<v Speaker 2>year extension? Not does he get moved on from If

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<v Speaker 2>somebody moves on from somebody the way it sits right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be more of Matt Lafleur.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, there's well that's probably taken it, take it,

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But Harmon when you say odds are that would be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first times that's happened in the NFL. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you look at Packers history, because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people have wanted to go back to the standards and

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<v Speaker 2>the precedent and what Green Bay had always been, what

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<v Speaker 2>it had done well. Its first Super Bowl winning head

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<v Speaker 2>coach in thirty years left because you weren't gonna pay

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<v Speaker 2>him as much and he wanted a bigger job.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct and eventually that job went to somebody else, So

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<v Speaker 3>he could have given him that job.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have give him that job, right, that didn't because

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't want to, because you didn't want to change

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<v Speaker 2>your philosophy for one individual and then the next and

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<v Speaker 2>then the next Super.

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl winning head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>It took two losing seasons and multiple frustrations and angers

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<v Speaker 2>uh and and back channel conversations and rumors swirling around

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<v Speaker 2>your building. So this thought that well, they've got they've

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<v Speaker 2>moved on from coaches because of the standard in Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay before. Well, Ray Rhodes at eight to eight is

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<v Speaker 2>the only one that's the only one that would have

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat comparable situation because if you start looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>coaches in the past, there's been a lot of leash given.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot of leash unless you bottom out

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<v Speaker 2>and the furthest thing that this Green Bay Packers team

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<v Speaker 2>has done. One thing they have not done is bottom out.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, this this tech in the headphones is an absolute

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<v Speaker 3>disaster area.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna take a quick time out. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read Knvene.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna join you back on the other side here

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<v Speaker 2>on the beautiful ten seventy of the game and on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube where Mike Witt and Leon Sarion are fired up

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<v Speaker 2>this morning waking up with us, and you can wake

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<v Speaker 2>up with us as well on YouTube and x on

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook as well, we'll get our daily Dolphin with our

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<v Speaker 2>friend Scott Dolphin from FF one OZH six to one

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<v Speaker 2>as well. On the other side, Arman Sarian's right there

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<v Speaker 2>on Billy Schmid, it's Nobs on the game. Welcome back, Nobs,

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with you on the game, enjoying a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>day in the good land. And Polly g just hit

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<v Speaker 2>us up on Twitter and said, at Bill Schmid, what

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<v Speaker 2>got you so mad at the end of the segment,

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<v Speaker 2>Just whip the headset, Paulie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you exactly what it was. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, your boy got in here two minutes before the

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<v Speaker 2>start of the show, because, as Scott Dolphin of F

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<v Speaker 2>one o six to.

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<v Speaker 1>One award winning morning show host is absolutely never done.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah golf, I I may or may not have that

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<v Speaker 2>means did accidentally put a five instead of a four

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<v Speaker 2>on the alarm today? Oh that happens and there and

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<v Speaker 2>my wife ended up waking me up as the baby

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<v Speaker 2>woke her up for I think like the fifteenth time

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the night. Uh, I don't think you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be here, like with an open hand slap. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was using a bad pair of headphones that I was

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<v Speaker 2>unable to hear much of and kept giving me a

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<v Speaker 2>ringing and a spiking kind of into my ear.

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<v Speaker 1>So your boy got hot at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>year and sitting right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's uncomfortable feeling there, guys, because you want to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure it's the headphones and not like some tonight

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<v Speaker 3>is that's popping up or some weird ring in the ear.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, doing what you guys do is hard enough.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't need technical difficulties on top of it. It

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<v Speaker 4>was hard, But the waking up light thing, dude, is

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<v Speaker 4>that your your days, you're gonna be behind the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the day up. That's that's the biggest problem right there.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's no worse feeling as somebody in broadcasting if

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<v Speaker 4>you do mornings and now I've been doing it for

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how many decades, but you wake up

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, for me, is there wood in here?

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<v Speaker 4>Hasn't happened in a long damn time, But when it does,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh God, oh God, what am I gonna do?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna make up an excuse? And the first thing

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<v Speaker 4>or something right now? Your first thought?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now? I got yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And And immediately as I'm like feverishly, uh, following behind

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<v Speaker 2>three individuals are very much going above the speed limit

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<v Speaker 2>but wondering why on earth is.

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<v Speaker 1>On their butt? That would have been it?

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily, as I told Arman, And and you know, every

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<v Speaker 3>once in a while you plan for your own ignorance.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Is I actually hung the keys up this time?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the amount of times right by the door? They yeah, jacket?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they in the other jacket that I leave them somewhere?

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<v Speaker 2>And they're the couch?

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<v Speaker 1>You're not thinking right right?

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<v Speaker 3>We had a moment like that, you and I you

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<v Speaker 3>you had to you had to kind of chip in,

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<v Speaker 3>do you remember that it was happened for Caddy. It

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<v Speaker 3>was for like the golf tournament, and they were no

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<v Speaker 3>one's was scheduled, and I came in as one of

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<v Speaker 3>my best memories of the Dolf working together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lett tell you this.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk more about this off the air, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>it was a funny story. I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 3>all this, the funniness of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So for years I would fill in at the golf

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<v Speaker 4>course during Caddy Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Caddy Day.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm starting back to I remember Ted and I

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<v Speaker 4>did a couple of shows up there. But then yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember all the details, but I remember it

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<v Speaker 4>was that particular day. Butch he joined via was on

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<v Speaker 4>the laptop and so he did an hour. But we

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<v Speaker 4>just had to scramble together.

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<v Speaker 3>The detail was nobody was scheduled, Bruce, Okay, that was

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<v Speaker 3>the detail.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what everyone remember to schedule everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like my mouth, it was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>what my character was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well I was supposed to act, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I was supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We want you to be a little bit more excitable there.

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<v Speaker 1>Like those type of things.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember all to plan all that was that the day

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<v Speaker 4>of the Bucks Championship, uh parade to.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that was a different day because Billy came in

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<v Speaker 3>to work for me because you knew how much I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I was pissed that because I had to be a

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<v Speaker 4>caddy day. I remember that that morning I was a caddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Right there was. But I think that was a different

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<v Speaker 3>year of the year. Yeah, I think it was. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was because I remember I was in not

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible mood because I was going to Vegas that night,

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<v Speaker 3>so I was like, whatever, let's just get through that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was on vacation that day, so that starting up

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<v Speaker 3>the Batchel. I think this was a different year. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pretty sure it was all the fun year just run together.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't. If you

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<v Speaker 3>were upset that morning, it never showed. Armin I was

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<v Speaker 3>there with I was saying, you're the first face I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>How can I be upset?

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<v Speaker 1>Though? That's where we were talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're probably talking about headlines and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>What was what was it in June July July? What

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<v Speaker 4>were we talking about? We were probably talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Brewers and camp starting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely absolutely, talking about another firing in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And and it really does remind you that even

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<v Speaker 2>though life in general is a lot better in July

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<v Speaker 2>than it is in January, sports talk radio sures heck

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<v Speaker 2>isn't better in July is in January?

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<v Speaker 1>It's never better than this week.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, have you seen the weather that now

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<v Speaker 4>it's early, it's only Wednesday that they're calling for snow

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<v Speaker 4>and wind at Soldier Field on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be interesting, should really be interesting how that

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<v Speaker 3>affects things.

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<v Speaker 1>If it does at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, both these teams obviously are used to playing

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<v Speaker 4>in the elements.

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<v Speaker 1>It came up on our show this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Is you know this? Oh well, you know, does that

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<v Speaker 4>really affect you? Really want a warm weather team to

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<v Speaker 4>come to your city? Again, Cole, It really doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 4>that much. I haven't looked at the numbers, but does

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<v Speaker 4>it matter that much?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not in terms of just like the the end results,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least the vibe, the feel, I would think.

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<v Speaker 2>And again maybe this was some will sound may make

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<v Speaker 2>that sound a little bit of defeatist. I think it

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:19.480
<v Speaker 2>favors the Bears for the kind of game that Chicago

0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 2>probably should and wants to play game of a run game,

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.199
<v Speaker 2>a physical punishing game, where those two games were as

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<v Speaker 2>physical of NFL games as you've seen the last time,

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<v Speaker 2>the two times they've met in the last four weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>that that's gonna be the way that this thing's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be won. And our friend Leon said, when's the last

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<v Speaker 2>time the Bears and Packers played three times in a season? Well,

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.440
<v Speaker 2>it would have been twenty ten when they played in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFC title game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only happened. This is only the third playoff game

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<v Speaker 1>that they've had.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think even stranger Dolph is that it's three

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<v Speaker 2>times in five weeks, in that long three times in

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<v Speaker 2>a season.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the Packers last win was against the Bears.

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.959
<v Speaker 4>The Bears last win was against the Packers. Crazy, how

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<v Speaker 4>about that one. It was a quirk in the schedule

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<v Speaker 4>that right away.

0:21:58.720 --> 0:21:59.040
<v Speaker 1>You saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>When we all the excitement leading up to the first

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<v Speaker 3>game for Packers Bears, I remember thinking, the interesting undercurrent

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:05.879
<v Speaker 3>is we're gonna be right back in the soup in

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks. Little did I know we were not doing

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.919
<v Speaker 3>it again three weeks, three weeks. It was like the

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<v Speaker 3>old days in the thirties, and forties when you had

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<v Speaker 3>like four teams you played and everybody was in the

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<v Speaker 3>same region because you had to take trains and buses.

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Or in the sixties when they would play a preseason

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.399
<v Speaker 4>game at County State that they would play a preseason game.

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<v Speaker 4>They hated each other and they would still play a

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<v Speaker 4>probably for charity.

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<v Speaker 1>They was most convenient game to play.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, take the train out and there were

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<v Speaker 3>six preseason games back then. Was that the old TRIPLEI

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<v Speaker 3>Shrine game? The original the Shiners? Yeah, the Shiners game.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember.

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<v Speaker 4>George Hallis was not a fan of County Stay. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember reading about that. He didn't like the layout, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and because it wasn't on the same side.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, well, it wasn't a great football layout, and one

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 3>corner of the back of the end zone was basically

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<v Speaker 3>the back pilot was basically the stands like there really

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't much buffer, so to spare.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember my first couple of years here. They still

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 4>play those games at County Stadium. I got here in

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<v Speaker 4>ninety four, so maybe that was the last year year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember armand it was one of my more embarrassing moments

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<v Speaker 4>in radio. I hosted that year the Olive Garden Kick

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.239
<v Speaker 4>for Cash at County Stadium, So I go out there

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<v Speaker 4>with the microphones.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like an electric event, but it was outstanding, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he was ahead of Pat.

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he was years ahead of Pat. You were kicking

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<v Speaker 1>for kick for.

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<v Speaker 4>Cash, so we somebody would a fan would get out

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<v Speaker 4>there and try to kick a thirty or forty yard

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 4>field goal. And I don't remember what the money was,

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:31.920
<v Speaker 4>but if they didn't hit it, they gotta they gotta

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:33.360
<v Speaker 4>get certificate for dinner at all.

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course get the bottless possible, right. The super

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 3>salad was.

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<v Speaker 4>The winner right there. But my very first game was

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<v Speaker 4>probably in the preseas. I know they're playing in Miami,

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<v Speaker 4>and I get out there with my mic I'm ready

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 4>to go. Well, what I didn't realize was as soon

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 4>as start talking, three seconds later that big speaker tree

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 4>in center field, Yeah comes right back at you ten

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<v Speaker 4>times tenfold, you know, And I'm like, Hi, doing ascott

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 4>bla blah blah blah, and I froze.

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<v Speaker 1>I shop.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know what to do, So every time after

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 4>that I wore earplugs because I was so confused.

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I looked like such a new biout.

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<v Speaker 2>That is such a good heady move because, uh it

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 2>is one of a tale as old at time when

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<v Speaker 2>there's an on site college game day, which most of

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>my life that has been, but once they go into

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the stadium, like they had Brian Bosworth on for the

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma Alabama game, and I felt so bad for Boz

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 2>because you can tell he is not on television much

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>right now, and the earpiece is rolling through and they're

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:39.439
<v Speaker 2>saying things in an air and he's going through and

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 2>they're like, hey, guys, it's okay, keep rolling, keep rolling,

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and uh, he was having himself a brutal time where

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you could tell somebody just said, hey,

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 2>why just take that out and just start talking, you know, kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Bosworth back in the day was the meanest, baddest, hated,

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 4>most hated. It's a player in college football, and then

0:24:57.840 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 4>kind of fizzled out in the NFL. Now you know

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 4>him as the county sheriff and the Doctor Pepper commercials.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely absolutely, And that's a great thirty fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, fan, that's him. That's the Boz. Yeah thirty

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:10.239
<v Speaker 1>for thirty. Great on him.

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<v Speaker 4>If you haven't seen it, I haven't but I remember

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 4>that character was the biggest damn thing on earth back

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 4>in the day, the bos and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really was character, right, like a oh yeah, a full

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>on wrestling character sitting there in the middle of a defense.

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 4>He was he was he was a heel uh and

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 4>loved it and gore it was just great at it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he gets to Seattle and he'll and sadly

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 4>for him, he'll always remembered this guy, that Bo Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of was symbolic even though I don't think,

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:38.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, he had some injury issues. You look at

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 3>the tellt career wasn't terrible, but there was there was

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 3>like the hype and the character of Boz that was

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 3>built into something that was more than reality that became

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 3>once he got once reality humbled in with the Bo

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Jackson imagery. Yeah, and both told him next time I

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 3>had buzzfair. I think that's that's what he told me.

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Was a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Would it almost be like a Reggie White or not

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 2>a Reggie White sorry Reggie Bush situation where he was

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 2>just such an amazing college player that like he had

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 2>a good NFL career, ran played ten years, ran for

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of thousand yards, won a Super Bowl, but

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't that guy once he got to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, And that's a lot of guys you know from college,

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 4>whether it's injury or you just you know, you just

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 4>don't adjust to the league. Think about the number of

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 4>quarterbacks that dominated at the college level and then get

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 4>to the big leg Johnny Manziel for example.

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Manzell's a great one. Dolf.

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 2>No, we got a great question here from our friend

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Mike Quit, who is is one of the more just

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 2>gives us a lot of good content ideas that we

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>can fire in here on the YouTube channel. He said,

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>why don't you guys ask Scott if the Packers should

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>move on from Matt Lafleur if they lose on Saturday.

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't I think that there's more of a conversation.

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Does Matt Lafleur get a two year with an option

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>extension or a three year with an option extension?

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Right now?

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like they're debating money more than merit for

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Matt Lafleur. Dolph as a Bears fan, where what do

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you hear when you hear Packers fan say, well, he

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 2>might be coaching for his job coming up this week?

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>As he's made the playoffs six of the last seven years.

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.479
<v Speaker 1>I get it because that's today's NFL.

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 4>You see that there's not a lot of patients and

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 4>if you don't win, I mean, you can make the playoffs.

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we heard that those two coaches on Sunday

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Night Football were probably playing for their job, and one

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 4>of them lost their job in John Harball. So that's

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 4>just today's culture in the NFL because of a field goal.

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so yeah, I get that.

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 4>But then we also hear talk inside the packer organization

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 4>that they're already working on, you know, keeping the GM

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 4>and the head coach around.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>They're both gonna be around, and frankly, I think they

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 2>both have like elevated statuses then both being put on

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>more of a hot seat. But it's tough because we

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.959
<v Speaker 2>see it for years and no doubt about it. It's always, well,

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>if you're not good, then let's hire somebody that's good.

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's hire somebody that's great.

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 2>You can't just go to great coaches r us and

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 2>find one off the shelf and be like, well, this

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 2>guy is going to take us to the next level.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Then sometimes it does work and you're like, okay, we

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 2>go from a good coach to a very good coach

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and maybe elevate. But most times I feel like you

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>end up being like a team after you fire Lovey Smith,

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.360
<v Speaker 2>because you're just nine and eight, went to a Super

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Bowl and also and you're like, what are we doing here?

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, they were ten and six and fired Lovey

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that year.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 4>So there's so many great coaches out there or really

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 4>good coaches, but you still got to have the players,

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 4>don't you Look at the Look at the you know,

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 4>look at Andy Reid going to Kansas City and being

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 4>blessed with Patrick Mahomes for all those seasons.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Is a great example.

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 3>I saw someone saying, well, what would have happened if

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 3>the Eagles had just not given up on Andy Reid

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 3>and stuck it out, they could have won. I'm like, well,

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm not really sure because they wouldn't have gotten Pat Mahomes.

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, Andy Reid is a great coach, but

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 3>he was a great coach in my opinion in Philadelphia too,

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 3>even though he didn't win all those accolades, but you know,

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>he went to five Nantsy Championship games, but they didn't

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 3>win a Super Bowl because you know, McNabb was good,

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 3>but he wasn't one of the all time greats like

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes is. And that's a lot of times what it

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 3>comes down to when you're judging player, players and coaches

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 3>by their ultimate prize, which is what we do in

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>ring culture, what we do in this sport, what we

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 3>do in commentary, you judge him by the ultimate prize.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 3>It takes a lot and it takes great, great talent

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 3>to win those prizes.

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 4>It's amazing in today's culture in the l that you

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 4>see guys like John Harball lasting as long as he did,

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 4>or that's the thing, or Mike Tomlin or Andy Reid

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 4>now in Kansas City. I mean, that's just an anomaly

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 4>those guys are. That's not the norm. Was Jerry Glanville said,

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 4>the NFL means not for long unless you win and

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 4>everybody wears out there, welcome eventually. I mean, Mike McCarthy

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 4>won a ring and wasn't that many years later he.

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Was out right during the season two, during the season

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 3>of vaulting.

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it ended up being you know, eight years, and

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 2>that's a tough thing of where you probably twenty sixteen

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>ended up saving McCarthy for a longer time because of

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 2>just how good and how hot they ended up getting it.

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 2>And it's a it's a different one for Harbaugh because

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, if they don't steamroll over the Packers,

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>and if all of a sudden the Browns don't get

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the most improbable five wins on their schedule

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>against the Steelers, he could have been eliminated a week

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 2>and a half before.

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Or uh, you know, if Tyler.

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Loop didn't have his four engagement photos just getting absolutely Lambay,

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Harbor would be preparing for a game right now. Instead,

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 2>his agent is fielding calls from set teams. Yeah, that's

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a great flex. Six openings. I heard from seven teams.

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 4>New York Giants next head coach of the New York

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Giants possibly probably.

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Did he say did he say NFL teams, Billy, because

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I thought about that too, Like, you know, it could

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 3>be feeling college.

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Jobs LOWFL jobs.

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, college college coaching, I mean exists.

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's just not there's not many college

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>jobs available at right now, so I mean, like unless

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>and and this would be the interesting one that I

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 2>saw somebody throw out there yesterday. Now is Mike Tannenbaum,

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>who is one of the former NFL general managers. Also

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 2>a reason why we're not a current NFL general manager?

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh said, uh, well, who's who's gonna hire Kert Signetti?

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't because you're gonna you're gonna take, You're gonna

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>take for Nando Mendoza. Why would you not grab kurtz

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Signetti and run him to Las Vegas, Dolf?

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Why would he kirk? He want to leave to go anywhere? Right, anywhere?

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Can correct.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 4>They're gonna pay him as much at Indiana that he

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 4>could probably make in the NFL.

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Right that, well, that's the tough thing right now.

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Where the conversation you talk about the financials with the

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 2>floor contract is that when he first got the job,

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>they gave him a counter track that was close to

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>like five million bucks low end of height of college

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>or head coaches in the NFL. And there was a

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 2>slight bump, but it still appears that he is significantly

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 2>lower than like Ben Johnson, first time head coach getting

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>thirteen million last year. Yeah, that's which is say money,

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>it's just top end of college coach.

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Also, what if he wins it all? I mean you

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 3>can make the argument, I have nothing left for me

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 3>to do here in Indiana. I can only go downhill

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 3>from here, get out before the posse gets in, before

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I have four underd performing years and they start getting mad.

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>That's all goes though in this sport. I mean, that's

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>what it is. We mentioned earlier.

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 4>It takes the players, and it certainly has it Indiana

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 4>the last two years. But that dude is different. I

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 4>love the line I just went you know, I just

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 4>win googled me and he did.

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>It a jmu. He did it at lower levels.

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 4>The guy is a winner, and he's got a system

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 4>that really freaking works, and guys.

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Want to play for him.

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 4>If you look at the recruiting classes he did fourteenth

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 4>left Ole Miss Indiana, Oregon in Miami, they're by far

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 4>the worst bunch of three star dudes and transfer portal guys,

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 4>and they've turned it into what should be a national

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 4>championship and they are.

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.959
<v Speaker 2>Dominating the portal right now. Badger's close second in portal

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>work right now.

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen pickups.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen Pickups got some big time visits coming up here today,

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>like Wendell Gregory visiting from Oklahoma State.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Now they've pillaged Oklahoma State. I mean, they did grab

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of Cowboys.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 4>Only Iowa State had more defections than Oklahoma State.

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And now what is this like for an Iowa fan

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>because you had no opt outs, not really any transfers.

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 4>They've had a couple actually hot for them, higher profile

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 4>defensive players leave the program Kane Andredger, who was a

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 4>team captain, announced yesterday that he's entering the portal, which

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 4>leads me to believe now they also lost a really

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 4>good assistant coach in LeVar Woods, who's is going to

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 4>Michigan State. Okay, I wonder if a couple of these.

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 4>I think the punter is leaving Iowa. The Aussie punter

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 4>is not Tory Taylor, the guy who want to go

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 4>punt others. I assume he's going to Michigan State to

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 4>punt for his guy. So they've lost a few players,

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 4>but they've also Iowa is great at getting guys from

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 4>fcs or lower level D one schools really good players.

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 4>They picked up a kid yesterday that had twelve sacks

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 4>for one of the school Carolina. Sure, okay, and the

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 4>twelve sacks super fast, you know. And they have a

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 4>way of coaching these guys up well.

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.719
<v Speaker 2>And when Kronoski comes in and plays the way he

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 2>did from FCS to Dakota style. Grab another one from

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>a jack Rabbit. Let's go see we can get a

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Montana State bobcat in here.

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Maybe Mark Karnowski, the winningest quarterback in college football history,

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 4>went fifty eight or fifty nine wins.

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 2>And he won a lot of folks a lot of money.

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 2>If you would have met Mark Kronowski or Diego Poppys

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 2>in the in the playoff game or in the bowl game,

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 2>which one were you rolling with? I'm rolling with the winner,

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>of course, I'm not rolling with theo Van's boy.

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yea, Theovon. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Dolve Always appreciated, brother, and we cannot thank you enough

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 2>for all the wisdom, knowledge and grace that you give

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>us on a daily basis.

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm full of them, are full of it. Appreciate a lot.

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 3>More of it.

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Coming up tomorrow, there's Scott balfdegging out with this year

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>on nobs.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear from the head coach. Some people say

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>he would be full of it.

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna hear from him coming up in the seven

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour. You on the other side, it's eight seven,

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>seven seventy nine four one nine seven.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Three, No BS on the game, No BS on the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back Billy Schmid, Arman Sarian with you at eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven seven nine four one nine seven three.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Chris and Lodi.

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Said, Uh, if the playoffs weren't expanded, green Bay would

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>have missed the playoffs last three years. Here's the difference, Chris.

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 2>They were expanded and they made the playoffs.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Here we go, here we go.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the goal with this statement is,

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 2>because then if you do want to go back with it,

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.240
<v Speaker 2>they would have had the sixth and fifth best records

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>in those years and also would have the six best

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 2>record this year. So from just that standpoint, they then

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 2>would have been able to qualify.

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 2>So if you don't believe, if you think that these

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>are some kind of fraudulent playoffs, then then don't watch.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, I don't know, Armin, like, I don't

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.760
<v Speaker 2>know what to do with that. I'm just stating a fact. Okay,

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 2>But you say the fact because you want it to

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 2>mean something. So what do you think it means? Do

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>you think it means that they don't deserve to be

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs? Do you think it means that they

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.240
<v Speaker 2>have not gotten better? Do you think that it means

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 2>that the players that are on the field have not

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 2>seen any progression throughout it?

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Make your point, Make the point. Make it.

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Don't just say it and say I don't mean anything

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.720
<v Speaker 2>by it. I'm just throwing it out there. Say something

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>about it. Then you can't just say I just I'm just.

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Throwing it out.

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just saying say

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 2>it for a reason. So what do you mean by it?

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you mean that it doesn't count? Do you mean

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 2>that Matt Lafleur is a fraudulent head coach because he

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 2>doesn't get playoff division title victories? Or we would like

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 2>to be the three seed? I get it, I totally

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>get it. Let's add some context here.

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Last year was the most wins any two teams had

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 3>played in a week seventeen or a later game in

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 3>the regular season, those both teams were in the division.

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You won eleven games.

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, if we're gonna go and pluck from

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 2>different years, well in twenty thirteen, that would have won

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the division by three games. We're not trying to win

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 2>that twenty thirteen NFC title, NFC North Championship. We're not

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>trying to make the playoffs in twenty eighteen where there

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>were six teams. You're playing now in twenty four and

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty five where there are seven teams.

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 3>It's been a while now, we and Chris.

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 2>It's not you only, No, it's totally not just Chris.

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>That's very much is the first one that I saw.

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 2>So that's where I love You're You're just the deer

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>that you're just. Yeah, we love Chris. Don't like a

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.439
<v Speaker 2>lot of the people that I see this with their

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 2>which is commonality online. Right, Well, I just don't think

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that that's the standard. Okay, I don't. I don't know

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 2>what standard you are thinking you're living up to. I

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know what standard you believe was set forth because

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 2>actual Packers history does not validate that.

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chris, you're just the latest line Chris mccos on here,

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 3>because this is something we keep hearing over and over

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 3>and over.

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Mediocrity is what got Mike McCarthy fired. No, it was

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 2>not mediocrity. It was back to back losing seasons when

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.479
<v Speaker 2>they lost double digit games. It was losing winning nine

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>games did not get Mike McCarthy fired. Get that part

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 2>out of the repertoire. That is just not factual. Nor

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>did it get Mike Hombern fired. Hey didn't even get fired.

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Good God, Okay, No, I just didn't want to.

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Get on your float. They Now the definition of mediocre

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>is another.

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 3>One that we could get into for years if we

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 3>wanted to.

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 2>The thing is, this is not the first winning a

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 2>championship might be what some people mediocre?

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, I agree, it's ring culture.

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Now. This is not the first time the NFL's expanded either, Billy, Like,

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 3>were we saying this in seventy eight when the NFL

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 3>expanned the playoffs again? Or were we saying this in

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.720
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety when they expanded again?

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we could go.

0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing about this, like or I like, I

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 3>like you cod It's been a long time now. It

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 3>was before COVID we expanded playoffs. I don't remember. I

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 3>don't remember Packer fans listen, I was young. Maybe they

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 3>were somewhere in some in some bar across Wisconsin complaining

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 3>that the Packers were a wildcard team in ninety three

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 3>to ninety four because they had just expanded in nineteen

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 3>ninety You know, eighty nine Packers should have made the playoffs,

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 3>they were ten and six, but they weren't. No expansion yet,

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 3>that's just the reality of it, all. Right, go ahead,

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 3>you were gonna read a text because I like this

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 3>one from Jeffrey.

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, with that logic, the Packers only made the playoffs

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>because they expanded a seven. Well, the Brewers should have

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>been in a world series. Yeah, they would have never

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>expanded the playoffs. We got screwed.

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.720
<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about expanded playoffs being a problem,

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Now we're talking.

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And this is from a guy I don't really like.

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really like the idea of expanded playoffs, but

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 3>it does exist, so you can't take away the accomplishment.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, here's another fair point, Billy. If the playoffs

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 3>never I don't even want to belabor the point. But

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 3>if the playoffs ever expanded to seven, the Packers wouldn't

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 3>have clinched two weeks ago. So their modus operandi is

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 3>at the right. I would say it would have been

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 3>totally different the last two weeks, right, would have been

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 3>totally different, probably, So you don't know what they would

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 3>have done it try and win some more.

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Mode of operations from twenty twenty four is the biggest one.

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean they had it locked up for three weeks. Okay,

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 2>sure are they gonna play them as strangely they did

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Agatin the Saint's probably not like I just I struggle

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>with it that way and Jake and Waukeshaw I just

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 2>woke up and opened the app. Why is Billy yelling?

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Because I get so angry when it just becomes well, actually,

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 2>this is just not the standard.

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You're telling on yourself.

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 3>You're one thousand percent telling on yourself because that that

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 3>is just not factual through all of Packer's history reed

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:43.959
<v Speaker 3>Cliff Crystal's book.

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love this multiple books.

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, because because I really appreciate that. Now we

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of online historians.

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<v Speaker 1>Well a lot of online historians. You know me, Billy,

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about that? Nineteen thirty one too?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when we used to have standards in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>You used to have standard, we said, used to have standards.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like, I'm maybe we could maybe we follow

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<v Speaker 2>two totally different teams. Maybe we talked to two totally

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<v Speaker 2>different groups.

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<v Speaker 1>Now a gat, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be and should be competing for championships

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<v Speaker 2>and try to There were nine to three and bleeping

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<v Speaker 2>one and the odds on favorite to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl. They lost their best defensive player. Injuries happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally get it, Yeah, totally get it. Kind of depends

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<v Speaker 2>on when injuries happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you start pointing to the San Francisco forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine ers, which definitely helped, there is that stuff happened

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<v Speaker 3>back in October and you are able to develop.

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<v Speaker 2>Some continuity and the guys on the field. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're starting to see some of that for the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see, and all could be moot.

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<v Speaker 2>They get blown out by thirty this week, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think some conversations will be had because that is a

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<v Speaker 2>jarring different result. But if status quo goes and this

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<v Speaker 2>is a one score game, I got bad news.

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<v Speaker 1>For everybody that thinks that there's gonna be a change. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>like so that part of it is, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Is eye opening, because it's just that just doesn't change

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<v Speaker 2>Austin and Springer up. Maybe Packers fans need a decade

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<v Speaker 2>of actual losing seasons to realize how spoiled Well, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something to that you never want that I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>me as a Packer fan also, I don't want that either.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have long thought, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>get hungry to be grateful again, So sometimes that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say we're entitled town or anything, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but but I'm just saying that that is the that

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<v Speaker 2>is sometimes the reality of the way we live. We've

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of good things to put ourselves in

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<v Speaker 2>a position where we can say being in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>which in my opinion, Billy is sorry about that is

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<v Speaker 2>competing for a championship.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're in the playoffs. You're competing for a championship.

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<v Speaker 3>We're being in the playoffs is somehow not good enough,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So we all want to advance in the

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs obviously, But like you said, what is the point

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<v Speaker 3>of the seven seed conversation? Exacerbating itself over and over?

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<v Speaker 3>So actual losing is different than the mediocrity.

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<v Speaker 2>Teddy the Welder, you know how many teams wish they

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<v Speaker 2>were good enough to make the expanded playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the point. Those are the teams that have

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<v Speaker 1>been He goes out, take that all day log.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where we were ninety That's why we weren't so

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<v Speaker 3>angry that we did make those wild card teams. When

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs did get expanded, I think the Reds arete ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>The Reds were saying, well, you know what, we we

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<v Speaker 2>only made the playoffs because they were expanded first time

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<v Speaker 2>in twelve years. For only made the playoffs, becase and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they probably celebrated and enjoyed it. But would

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<v Speaker 2>you feel better if we were a two seed and

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<v Speaker 2>lost those years too?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I don't get. The results. The results, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good one as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris and Load, I said, up wild Billy Glad, I

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<v Speaker 3>could give you the contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris. We love you man. He also said, love the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you Chris, we love all the interaction at

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven seven seven, nine, four seven three, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get more of it. On the other side, it's no

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<v Speaker 2>BS hour twos next