1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Good morning, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: my friend, and welcome home. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: I am Dean Sharp, the House Whisper, custom home Builder, 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: custom home Designer, and of course every week your guide 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: to better understanding that place where you live. Whether home 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: for you is a castle or cottage, matters not to me. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: You know why, because luxury does not a great homemake. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: It is design that matters most. And that is what 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: we set out here every week to help you understand 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: better and to give you the advantage of transforming that 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: place where you live. Good design makes all the difference, 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: my friend. Every house deserves it, every house should enjoy 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: it because the power of good design. Once it is 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: at work in your house, then your house has a 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: path forward toward become truly, truly great home. We're gonna 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: have some very very interesting things to talk about this weekend. 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: Of course, today it's an all calls Saturday morning, so 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: I await your calls. Anything you want to talk about 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: regarding your house. Whatever's got you scratching your head about 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: your home? Design, construction, DIY, inside stuff, outside stuff, landscape, decor. 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: I got you. We will put our heads together, we 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: will get it figured out, and everyone will enjoy hearing 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: the answers as we go, because that's what it's all about. Here. 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: Eight three three, This is the number to reach me. 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: Eight three three two, ask Dean. A three three the 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: numeral two, Ask Dean. It's just that simple. A three 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: three to ask Dean. The phone lines are open right now, 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: and I will sit here and sip my coffee and 30 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: wait for the first call to roll in. How about that? 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: Just in silence. No, we won't do that. But normally 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: this is when I say, sitting across the table from me, 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: my design partner, my better half, my best friend in 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: all the world, Tina is here, except I'm not exactly 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: sure where she is. Tina's a little mia this morning. 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: She's around here somewhere. She will be here shortly, I 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: am sure. In the meantime, let's say hi to Sam. 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: Hey Sam, how you doing, Bud? I'm good? How you doing? 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: Dean? 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: I'm good? Sam? Is wrangling? Are not so? Live studio audience? 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: They sound chipper this morning, all working. They got good energy. 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: They always bring good energy, they do. They sometimes bring 43 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: babies and lasers, but they bring good energy, and strangely enough, 44 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: they bring the exact same amount of energy every week. Yeah, 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: consistency is what we need in this world. They really are. 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: They are super consistent. The pre recorded audience members, I'm 47 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: telling you. Somebody who is not pre recorded is Heather Brooker? 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: Definitely not. 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: We are live? Whoa we are live? That was aggressive, Heather. 50 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Good morning, Los Angeles. 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: We are. 52 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: Wake up everybody. 53 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: It's not for the news. 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm good, I'm good. 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 4: Happy to be here. I feel like I haven't talked 56 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: with you guys in a in a while over the holidays. 57 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: And then how were your holidays? Good? Good time? 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: The holidays were great, goods were great. And I just 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: had a birthday and Tina earlier this week snuck me 60 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: off to a surprise destination just to spend a couple 61 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: three days. Where did you go? Is it was it Fresno? 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: I was not fred you know, and I you know, 63 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: I didn't make a big deal that it wasn't Fresno 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: because I didn't want to look too disappointed. But you know, 65 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: people are listening in Fresno right now saying, Hey, what's 66 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: the deal, Sam, Why we get it, you said a 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: surprise location. I'd be surprised if someone just picked me 68 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: up and took me to Fresno. That your if your 69 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: birthday party was in Fresno. That's probably true. I'm surprised. No, 70 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: she told me. I'm like, so what should we pack? 71 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: And and she said, okay. I kind of figured it 72 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: out because she said, all right, walk around stuff walk 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: just regular walk around, warm weather clothes, bring your bathing 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: suit and also snow gear. What what? And then I thought, oh, okay, 75 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: are we going to And yeah, it's true. We went 76 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: to Palm Springs. Oh nice. And I'll tell you. Do 77 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: you know why the snow gear applies in Palm Springs? 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: Did you go up on the tram up? 79 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Palm Springs Aerial Tramway. And for those of 80 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: you who haven't been and done this, you gotta do it. 81 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: You gotta do it. It's so great. She knows that 82 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: I love a nice hike through the mountains. And so 83 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: you're out there in the desert at I don't know, 84 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: five hundred feet above sea level in Palm Springs and 85 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: then you, you know, drive up into the heart of 86 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: this canyon here because Palm Springs is just on the 87 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: east side and the southeast side of the San Jacinto 88 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: Mountain Range. And if you've never gone on the Palm 89 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: Springs Aerial Tramway, you totally should. They've got new cars 90 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: too that rotate as they go up the mountain. Last 91 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: time we went, that wasn't the case. So ten minutes 92 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: you get in this tram. Ten minutes later you go 93 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: from five hundred feet above sea level to eighty two 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: hundred feet above sea level. You're in the forest. There 95 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: was snow and ice on the ground all around us. 96 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: And then we spent you know, a couple three hours 97 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: just trapesing around up there, and it was awesome. Plus 98 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: the place where we stayed in Palm Spring, well, I 99 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: have to tell you about it, but i'll tell you 100 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: about it during the next break because we're right up 101 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: against it so and we've got calls on the board 102 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: and when we come back, so, well, that's how really nice. 103 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: I'm glad you guys. 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: Got to go do that. Yeah, thank you, thank you. 105 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: It was a great bird. More on my Palm Springs adventure. 106 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: When we come back, you are home with Dean Sharp, 107 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: the house whisper Dean Sharp, the house whisper here to 108 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: help you make your home something truly, truly extraordinary, help 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: you take it to the next level. Hey, welcome to 110 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: the program. I'm glad you're with us on this early 111 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: Saturday morning. It is an all calls Saturday morning. The 112 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: number to reach me about anything that you want to 113 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: talk about or ask about regarding your home. Eight three 114 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: three two Ask Dean eight three three the numeral two 115 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: ask Dean. I am happy to talk to you more 116 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: about my Palm Spring's birthday adventure. If I actually want 117 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: to tell you about the the lodge, the hotel that 118 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: we stayed at, because we stayed at this place once before. 119 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: I love it. It's called the Sparrow's Lodge. But guess what, 120 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: I'm just going to leave you dangling about it right 121 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: now because we got calls on the board and we 122 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: got to get to the phones, do our job, and 123 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: then we will reward ourselves a little talk about my 124 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: birthday adventure. So without any further Ado, let's talk to 125 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: George Ann. Hey, George Anne, welcome home. 126 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, good morning. OK. It takes about three or 127 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: four minutes to get hot water to running the hot 128 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: water to get it hot in the kitchen. You told 129 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: a caller a while back, there were two things you 130 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: can install underneath the kitchen sing itself to get hot 131 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: water almost immediately. Can you repeat that, and this time 132 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: I'll write it down. 133 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yes, I will get this question a lot. 134 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: And it's something still relatively new to a lot of folks. 135 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: Although this well one of the versions of what I'm 136 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: about to tell you, it has become such a significant 137 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: change and provement that it is part of the California 138 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: Building Code now for all new houses and major remodels. 139 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: It's literally a code requirement. So here's the thing. The 140 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: reason why it takes forever to get hot water to 141 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: certain parts of the house is simply this non use 142 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: of the hot water line. So you've got hot water 143 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: sitting in the hot water line. It's away from the 144 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: water heater. Now it's all the way over by your 145 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: kitchen sink. And you know, then you walk away and 146 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: you haven't been in the kitchen for an hour or 147 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: half an hour, or how you know, more than that 148 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: a couple hours, and so when you go back to 149 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: the fosce and this holds true whether it's the kitchen 150 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: sink or whether you're in the primary bathroom, you know, 151 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: your bathroom just off your bedroom, and you turn on 152 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: the foss you turn on the shower, you turn on 153 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: the kitchen faucet, and it's cold water. Well, the hot 154 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: water that was in the hot water line has been 155 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: lay in there in the pipe for a long time 156 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: and it's cooled off. Okay, is this a problem, Well, 157 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: it's an inconvenience for sure, and it also for a 158 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: state that is doing everything it can to conserve water 159 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: and should be, it is a problem because we lose literally, 160 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: just in southern California, we lose billions of gallons of 161 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: fresh water down the drain simply from waiting for the 162 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: water to turn hot. So what is the answer to that, Well, 163 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: there are a couple of ways of going about it. 164 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: One is, if you're building a new home, you could 165 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: always plumb your hot water line on a circuit on 166 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: a loop instead of just the end of a tree branch, 167 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: which is how most plumbing is done. You can take 168 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: your hot water line and plummet on a loop and 169 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: have a recirculation pump back at the water heater, so 170 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: the water heater just keeps moving the water in the 171 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: hot water line through this pump, and therefore it's all 172 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: always hot near the faucet, and when you turn the 173 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: faucet on, boom, there's hot water. Now, unless you're repumping 174 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: your house, repiping your house, you don't have that option 175 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: because your sink, your kitchen sink in your case, George Anne, 176 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: is at the end of like a branch of a tree. 177 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: The hot water is all the way back in the 178 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: root ball of the tree, and you're at one of 179 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: the tippy branches at the end. So there is a device, 180 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: two devices. Actually, one is a recirculation pump that goes 181 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: underneath the sink. Okay, sorry, I just got tongue tied there. 182 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: It's a small pump. You'd have to have electricity under 183 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: the sink, or you bring electricity into the sink, which 184 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: most kitchen sinks do because of the garbage disposal already, 185 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: you would install this little recirculation pump under the sink. 186 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: Now you're thinking, okay, but you just said you'd have 187 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: to have a loop. Well, here is the loop that's made. 188 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: There is an ingenious little invention called a bridge valve. 189 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: Bridge valve. It doesn't have to have you don't have 190 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: to tear out the wall or open this up and 191 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: do it and the inside plumbing. This installs on the 192 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: outside of the wall where your angle stops are the 193 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: valves that lead to the kitchen sink. That bridge valve 194 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: allows it's a one way valve, one direction valve, just 195 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: a one way street. It allows hot water on the 196 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: hot water side to move through it and be pushed 197 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: into the cold water line. And that's what that pump 198 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: is for. The pump activates when it detects that the 199 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: water in the hot water line drops below ninety degrees 200 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: and when that happens, it actually pulls the water through 201 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: the hot water line, shoving it into the cold water. Yes, 202 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: there's tons of room in the cold water line for 203 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: this to happen, and the pump is there to pressurize 204 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: it and push it through. So what's happening is the 205 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: pump is actually drawing the hot water as if the 206 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: faucet was running for you, drawing it closer to the sink, 207 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: and instead of that water going down the drain and 208 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: out and away from your house where it is now wasted, 209 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: it's still in your house. It just pushes that cold water, 210 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: or that lukewarm tepid water into the cold water line 211 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: where it will be there for you to use. It 212 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: conserves massive amounts of water, which is good, and it's 213 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: also good because the hot water is almost almost instantly 214 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: right there, no long waits. And the cool thing is 215 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: you can do this under your kitchen sink. It proves 216 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: out to be fantastic. You can also do it in 217 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: your bathroom under your bathroom sinks, and that gets hot 218 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: water closer to the shower, closer to the tub is 219 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: not instant like you know, turn it on and it's 220 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 2: just boom, instantly hot, but instead of waiting two or 221 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: three minutes, George, and you're waiting maybe five to ten seconds. 222 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: And that's something that everybody has no problem with, generally speaking. 223 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: So it is a recirculation pump and a bridge valve. 224 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: You can find these cities on the shelf at big 225 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: box stores like home depot. The whole thing for the 226 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: equipment about three hundred dollars, and then you get somebody 227 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 2: to install it for you. And installation happens if you've 228 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: got electricity down there, very very quickly, just one day, 229 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: not even a whole day, just you know, a couple hours, 230 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: do it and you're good to go. 231 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: Perfect. Thank you so very very much. 232 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: You are so very very welcome. Thanks for the call, 233 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: George Anne. All right, more of your calls when we 234 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: return your Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. 235 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 236 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. 237 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: Dean Sharp the House Whisper here to help you transform 238 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. Thanks for joining 239 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: us on the program today. The sun isn't up quite yet, 240 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: but I see a little light in the sky. It's 241 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: coming up. I'm glad you're up. I'm up, and we're 242 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: talking all things your home today. Yes, earlier, at the 243 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: beginning of the week, Tina snuck me away to Palm Springs. 244 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: Palm Springs, and you know what I got to tell you, 245 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: I'm not a particular desert guy. I'm not drawn to 246 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: the desert. That's not what I'm about. You know. I 247 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: love all things nature, but the desert is not my 248 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: jam really, Okay. But there's a lot of fun things 249 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: to do in Palm Springs. And I don't mean the 250 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: golf in the tennis, because I don't do golf or tennis. 251 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: But there are still a lot of fun things to 252 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: do and it's fascinating place and it's a great place 253 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: to get away. I don't know, Sam, Heather, did you 254 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: do you guys know anything? Have you ever heard about 255 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: the two hour rule? 256 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: Is? 257 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a five second rule, the 258 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: one where you could pick food up off the floor. Yeah. No, 259 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: not that one. That one. No, I haven't heard the 260 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: two hour rule. What is it that one? Well, the 261 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: two hour rule actually is is really responsible in a 262 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: lot of ways for Palm Springs existing the way it 263 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: does today. I mean for its history. The two hour rule. 264 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: It was something within the Golden Age of Hollywood when 265 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: the studios, you know, back in the Golden age, the 266 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: studios would have actors and actresses under contract, and their 267 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: contracts literally read that they had to live or stay 268 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: while a movie was being shot within two hours of Hollywood, 269 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: of the studio in case they get called back for 270 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: quick reshoots or anything during the editing process after primary 271 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: photography was done on the film. Okay, And as a result, 272 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: Palm Springs became this just conveniently just two hours away 273 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: from the studio's retreat. That attracted people like Lucille Ball 274 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: and Frank Sinatra to build homes there because they were 275 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: just within the two hour rule boundary of their contracts, 276 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: but they were outside lay. And this is where Palm 277 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: Springs became this retreat right because of the studio. And 278 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: the reason I brought that up is because the lodge 279 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: that we stayed at the hotel it looks like a 280 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: little motel. Actually, it's called the Sparrows Lodge. It was 281 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: built in nineteen fifty two by you know, like everything 282 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: in Palm Springs was because it's a modernist, you know, 283 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: kind of haven out there. Postmodern, I mean a post modern, 284 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: mid century monitor. But it was built by an actor 285 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: by what was his name, Oh, Don Castle, kind of 286 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: a kind of a B movie Errol Flynn kind of guy. 287 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: Don Castle built this lodge as a retreat for his 288 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: fellow actors out in Palm Springs. In fact, there was 289 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: a while where you had to literally have a sagcard 290 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: in order to get into the lodge. Now that's not 291 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: the case. It's just it has gone through like three 292 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: or four name changes and owners. But back in twenty thirteen, 293 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: run down and kind of neglected as it was, new 294 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: owners picked it up and they refurbished the place. They 295 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: didn't radically change it. They just kind of brought it 296 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: back to its glory and is the coolest little boutique motel. 297 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: There's twenty rooms and and it's adults only. It's twenty 298 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: one and over, so there are no kids jumping in 299 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: the pool or anything like that. It's just quiet, calm. 300 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: They have a Michelin restaurant on the grounds. Anyway, it is, 301 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: It's not I wouldn't call it swanky in any ways. 302 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: It's just because it's really rustic. But it's really really, 303 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: really a fun experience. And it doesn't even really have 304 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: a sign on the street. There is a sign, but 305 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't have any words. There's just a picture of 306 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: two sparrows on the sign. And you just got to 307 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: know what you're looking for. And there it is. Anyway, 308 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: that's where we stayed. I stayed there once before, and man, 309 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: what a great place. You guys got to check it out. 310 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: Look at you. 311 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: Do you like like the desert escape vibe or is 312 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 4: that which you not one of your favorite like parts 313 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: of Palm Springs are like do you like kind of 314 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 4: that isolation of the desert or no? 315 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: I like the like, I like the quiet of it all, Yeah, 316 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: but not the desert. I'm not a you know, I'm 317 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: not drawn to the desert. I do you know backpacking, hiking, 318 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 2: multi day trips, never have ever once tempted to do 319 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: that out in the desert environment. There are some really 320 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: beautiful hikes though around Palm Springs that people wouldn't really 321 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: realize are there. And like I said, you take the 322 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: tram up, and now I'm up where I really thrive, 323 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: up in the mountains and the alpine stuff. And so anyway, 324 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: I just wanted to waste an entire segment telling you 325 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: about the Sparrow's Lodge because everybody should look it up. 326 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: Google it right now. When we go to break and 327 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: then we come back, guess what, I'll get back to 328 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: my job and take another call. You are home with 329 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. Dean Sharp, the house Whisper 330 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: here to remind you every home deserves great design, especially yours. 331 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: Why because you live there, my friend. And great design 332 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: is what transforms a home and makes it an amplification 333 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: of your best life. That's what homes are for. That's 334 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: what the alters are for. That is the history of architecture. 335 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: By the way, did you know that, well you think 336 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: it through. It makes perfect sense shelter. Where we find 337 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: shelter is what makes life easier, the first and most 338 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: fundamental thing apart from food, that makes life easier for 339 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: human beings because you know what, we lost all of 340 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: our fur and all of our other outside just hang 341 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: around survival stuff. The bigger our brains grew the more 342 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: technology we introduced into our lives, and so as a result, 343 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: we need a home. We need a place, a roof 344 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: over our head, a place to stay warm, a place 345 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: to stay cool. And not only is that basic need 346 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: what architecture is essentially about, but also our emotional and 347 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: mental needs as well. And that's what great design is 348 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: all about. And that's why I'm here to help you out. 349 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: It is an all call Saturday morning. I want to 350 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: go back to the phones. I want to talk to 351 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: Let's talk to Dave. Hey, Dave, welcome home. 352 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 5: Hi, Hi Dane. How you doing today? 353 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: I am doing great? How are you, sir? 354 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 5: Real good? I have a two part question. I bought 355 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: a new house about two years ago, and I took 356 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 5: pictures as they were building. But when they got to 357 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: the foundation, I took pictures. They had all these steel 358 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: rods going through and I understand that they stretch them 359 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 5: or whatever. I don't know, they do it before they 360 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: do the concrete or afterwards, and then stamped in the 361 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 5: garage and not drill into the slab or whatever. And 362 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 5: my other part is what happens one of those breaks 363 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 5: or they had to go underneath to get to the plumbing. 364 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so a brand new home. Where's your 365 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: home map by the way, Lancaster. Okay, so new homes. 366 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: A lot of new homes, not all of them, but 367 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: a lot of builders are utilizing what are called post 368 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: tension slabs. It's a thing. It's been around for a 369 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: few decades now, and that's what you've got. If you've 370 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: got a plaque or a stamped sign embedded usually in 371 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: the floor of the garage or some or in the 372 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: garage that says do not drill, that is because you've 373 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: got a post tension slab. Now, what is a post 374 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: tension slab. The difference between a post tension slab and 375 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: what we would typically call a traditional slab. A traditional 376 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: slab has rebar in it, reinforcement bar. Rebar just lays there. 377 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: It's tied off in you know, depending on the structural 378 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 2: needs of the slab and whatever the structural engineer has 379 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: required for the soil conditions. You know, rebar is laid 380 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: out in every eighteen inches on center in both directions 381 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: in a grid, or every twenty four inches on center sometimes, 382 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: and it's just laying We've all seen it's laying there. 383 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: It's a mat that lays in there, and then we 384 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: pour the concrete around it, and the concrete envelops the rebar, 385 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: and the rebar helps give the the It gives tensil 386 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: straight to the concrete. Concrete has a tremendous amount of 387 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: of compressive strength. In other words, you can put a 388 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: lot of heavy loads on top of it just sort 389 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: of dead or live weight. But concrete is brittle, and 390 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: so using reinforcement steel inside the concrete is what helps 391 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: the concrete not crack and not snap and all of 392 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Now, the difference between rebar and 393 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: post tension is that post tension is slabs are made 394 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: up of cables. They're not rebar, they're cables, steel cables, 395 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: and those steel cables are less frequent in the slab 396 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 2: because they don't have to because technically it's a stronger slab, 397 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: they don't have to be every twenty four inches. Most 398 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: post tension slabs have their cables running every three feet 399 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: to four feet so and you would think, whoa, that's 400 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: what's going on with that. And what happens is the 401 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: concrete is poured and as it starts to set up, 402 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: then those cables which extend outside the forms that the 403 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: concrete was used to form the concrete. We then grab 404 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: those cables and we tighten them. We tighten The best 405 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: way to describe it is like we tighten the cables, 406 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: like we tighten it and tune aquitar string. Okay, that 407 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: puts it under tension. Now it's post poor. It's the 408 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: post it's after the poor of the concrete, and it's 409 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: tensioning the concrete. So it's a post tension slab. Your 410 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: slab is under tension with these drawn up, tuned up, 411 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: tightened cables and as a result, that slab compressively is 412 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: uh is quite a bit stronger than a traditional rebar 413 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: slab with one caveat in that slab, and that is 414 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: this a regular rebar slab. Since none of the rebar 415 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: is under tension, you could drill down. You could hit 416 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: one of the pieces of rebar, drill through. It doesn't 417 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: matter because it's just laying there doing its job. You 418 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: could cut the concrete to run you know, you know, 419 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: plumbing lines through it and just patch in little bits 420 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: of rebar into the epoxy them into the cut and 421 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: patch it up again. But a post tension slab, that 422 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: one cable, every cable on that slab runs from one 423 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: side of the house all the way continuously to the 424 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: other side of the house. And if we cut it, 425 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: if we drill through it and nick it, not only 426 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: could it be dangerous, could it could actually erupt through 427 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: the cement. That sounds like you're living in a dangerous situation. 428 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: You're not. But if we cut it, the worst case 429 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: is that that once we've cut that cable, all of 430 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: that tension has been released from that slab all the 431 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: way across your entire house. Now, they can be repaired, 432 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: but it's a whole thing. Let me tell you, it's 433 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: a whole thing. So that is why there's a plaque 434 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: that says do not drill. It's a little misleading, by 435 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: the way, Dave, because my friend, that just because you 436 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: have a post tension slab does not mean that you 437 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: can't cut that slab open and do some plumbing work. 438 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: Or access something, or move a plumbing fixture like a 439 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: toilet from one side of the bathroom to another. It 440 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that at all. But what it does mean 441 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: is that as opposed to willy nilly just cutting wherever 442 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: we want, not worrying about what rebar we cut through 443 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: when we, you know, move something, we need to map 444 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: out where those cables are and cut around them and 445 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 2: avoid them. Okay, And so that's very important information for you, 446 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: and it means that whenever we run into a post 447 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: tension slab or a slab that we suspect might be 448 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: post tension, the very first thing we do is we 449 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: have a scanning service come out and they just run 450 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: their scanners over the slab and they will literally mark 451 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 2: out where the cables are. We'll locate them within you know, 452 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: half an inch of where they are. We'll locate all 453 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: the cables, and then we make our cuts very very carefully, 454 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: and we simply and sometimes we even pose the cable 455 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: because you have to, but we don't touch the cable. 456 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: We don't nick the cable, we don't cut the cable 457 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: because that relieves that that doesn't just damage the slab 458 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: right there, but all the way across the house. It 459 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: is a fantastically strong slab that you will have little 460 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: to no problems with for the life of the house. 461 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: Dave. 462 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: So I don't want to poopoo it and make it 463 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: sound like it's a problem, but by the nature of 464 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: what it is, just think of your slab as being 465 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: having you know, guitar strings running in both directions underneath 466 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: it that are under tension. We don't just willy nilly 467 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: drill down into the slab or cut down into the 468 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: slab anywhere we want for whatever it is that we're doing, 469 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: because we could ruin that system. And so that is why, 470 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: my friend, your slab is stamped with that warning, and 471 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: it's why you should know. Unfortunately, builders should better educate 472 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: people who are living on post tension slabs, because there 473 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: have been more more than my share of times in 474 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: which I get a call saying, up, something really went wrong, Dean, 475 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: and then it's a whole thing. Does that make sense, Dake. 476 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 5: Uh, yes it does. I really appreciate it. 477 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: All right, my friend, thanks for calling. I appreciate the call. 478 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: And yeah, so, now, how do you know you're living 479 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: on a post tension slab? You don't. There may be 480 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: a plaque in the garage. There may be something stamped 481 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: in the garage floor. Sometimes quite often there isn't. But 482 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 2: if you have a newer home, newer meaning like you know, 483 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: post tension slabs got really popular in the late eighties 484 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: early nineties. If your home is older than nineteen eighty, 485 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: you don't have a post tension slab. If it's newer 486 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: than you might and so better if you're gonna plan 487 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: on tearing up the slab, better to check, better to 488 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 2: have a scanning service come and check. They'll be able 489 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: to tell you within like two minutes whether they find 490 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 2: rebar or post tension cables, and then you know what 491 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: you're working with, and then you can proceed. And it's 492 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: just that easy, all right. More of your calls after 493 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: the top of the hour. 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