1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: The Friday Football Feast makes us return this Friday. You 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed Pa Nor No alec Lewis nine to now in Buffalo, 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: Allowings Monticello for Wings football and great prizes ahead of 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Vikings Eagles this Sunday, doors open at eight. Full details 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: KFA dot com, qub recounts. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: Standard Heating and Air. 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Standard Heeating dot com and we 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: welcome you to the nine to Noon Show where Ben Gesling, 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: scribe for the Star Tribune, joins nine to noon each 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: and every Tuesday. We are at Twin City's Orthopedics Performance Center, 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: Access Vikings Podcast, Don't forget about that the Friday newsletter 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: at Ben Gesling via Twitter. You can learn about all 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: of that via his Twitter feed and no regrets. I 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: would imagine skipping the week in London, right, Good morning. 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: Good morning, Yeah, it was. It was okay to have 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: a little bit of a breathfit from that. 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: I ended up. 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: Home a day later than I expect that it was 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: going to be because my connection from Dublin to Amsterdam 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: got delayed to the point where I missed the flight 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 4: from Amsterdam home. So had a free night in Amsterdam 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: and figured out how to get myself downtown and did 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 4: the bicycle thing and saw a little bit of Amsterdam. 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was otherwise, it was a little more of. 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: A relaxing week than it sounded like it might have 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 4: been in London for some people. 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: What does a good Christian kid like you do with 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: a full day in Amsterdam? 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: It was a couple hours in Amsterdam. 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: I think it was trying to figure out how to 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: use the train and read enough Dutch to understand how 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: to get off the train, and then figured out, you know, 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 4: they do the you know rent by the hour bike thing, 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: you know, like you would do with a scooter or something. 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: So found one of those places and just did the 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: bike around thing. Went to see some of the museums 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: and they were closed by that point. This is like 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: nine o'clock at night by the time I did this, 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, I took some pictures of that stuff and 40 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: looked like an American tourist probably riding the bike around. 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: But it was kind of fun just to see that. 42 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: I had never been there, so I figured to make 43 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: the best of it and then get back to the hotel, 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: finished running the story, sleep for three. 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: Hours four hours, and get on the flight home. Amsterdam's 46 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: actually really cool. 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 5: And there's the stereotype bits, right, but the canals, the museums, 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 5: there's like nine hundred thousand bicycles in town. I mean, 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 5: you're you're looking for bikes before you're looking for cars. 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 5: Amsterdam or just commute it's beautiful, man. Yeah, it is 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 5: a great city. It was fun to see a little 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 5: bit of it and a little bit of time. I figured, 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 5: let's just make the best of it when I'm delayed there. 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: Now, you know, with the even though you weren't in 55 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: London or at Hanbury manor or covering it, you know, 56 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: as you would cover as a beat rider. 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, normally week to week. 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: It just it doesn't mean you're not plugged into vibes, yeah, 59 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: or you're not either plugged in from those within the 60 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: Covenant or those covering the Covenant. The point being here 61 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: is the week and a half seemed it seemed to 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: eat its some but not everybody. When I talk with coaches, 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: end or players mostly did you get that vibe from Afar? 64 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: I thought it was a terrific experience. It did get long. 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, part of the part of the 66 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: game planning group or anything, but it seemed to eat 67 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: it some people. 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: Did you sense that, Yeah, it just it's a long 69 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: time to be out of your element. I mean, you're 70 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: doing all of these things. 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean. 72 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: NFL teams are so much creatures of habit. I mean 73 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: that they want things to be regimented and routine and 74 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 4: kind of predictable week to week. I think that's something 75 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 4: that they kind of thrive on, or at least get 76 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: so comfortable with it. 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: When you don't have that. 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: In the same way, it's hard so when you have 79 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: to fly in a tackle just to get through practice 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: because you don't have enough people healthy and active, and 81 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: you have to make sure he's got a passport and 82 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: make sure that you can get a uniform made up, 83 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: and you know, all of these extra things. I even 84 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: felt that in Dublin. It's just it was a reminder. 85 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: And I enjoy those international trips a lot, but there's 86 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: just always like a couple of things that you count 87 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: on working smoothly that don't. It's hey, the Internet isn't 88 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: working quite the way I want, or oh I need 89 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 4: this power converter. When I got laid over on answerdam, 90 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: It's like, all right, I have the one for the 91 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: UK and Ireland, but I don't have the one for 92 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: mainland Europe, so I got to find one of those 93 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: otherwise I can't get my story done. So it's just 94 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: those types of little things. And then when you're playing 95 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: in an NFL season where there's pressure and you're trying 96 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 4: to get things fixed, especially with injuries like they've had it, 97 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: I just imagine all those little things add up and 98 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: it just gets to be kind of grueling. I think 99 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: Jonathan Grenard said after the game, like I'm ready to 100 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 4: go home, ready to see my family, ready to be 101 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: on my own bed. I think when you take a 102 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 4: team out of its routine for that long and it 103 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: is going to wear on some people. Do do you 104 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: think it's time for the NFL to give the Vikings 105 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: a break from worldly escapades? 106 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: Well? 107 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: I had that conversation with a couple of people over 108 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: the course of this, and I did get a little 109 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: bit of a like. I mean, I think they enjoy 110 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: those things, but I think there was a little bit 111 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: of this was a lot, and this was something that 112 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: no one else has been asked to do before, So 113 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: I think there was maybe a little bit of a hope, Hey, 114 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: next year, for example, if the Rams end up on 115 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: the schedule and it's Hey, the Rams are playing that 116 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: game in Melbourne. Let's send the Vikings there because they 117 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: travel well and they do these things well they do 118 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: they activate and all these different kinds of things. I 119 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: think there's maybe a little bit of a hope of No, 120 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: we just sent them on a two week trip last year. 121 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 4: Let's give them a minute to breathe before we do 122 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 4: the next to one of these things. 123 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: Ko left QB one open for the Philly game, didn't 124 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: he he did? 125 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: Yep? What do you think? 126 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 4: Well, I think you know some of the things he 127 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: said yesterday about JJ McCarthy and some of the things 128 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 4: he said through the course of this process getting through 129 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: a whole week of practice. I don't know how you're 130 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: going to know that you know his fitness to start 131 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: until you see him go through it. So you know, 132 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: just common sense and this is not with any steam necessarily, 133 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: but common sense tells me that you probably want to 134 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: see him get through the full week, see how he 135 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: responds to a Wednesday practice, how he comes back. It's 136 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 4: hard to do that kind of prospecting. I guess it's 137 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 4: hard to do that speculatively where you're saying, Okay, let's 138 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: see if this guy's ready to go. That's not how 139 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: regular season practices work. As you guys know, you need 140 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: the reps to have the number one ready to play. 141 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: So I would imagine that they're going to take the 142 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: week to say, let's get him some work. Let's get 143 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: some extra work with quarterback coaches on the side, get 144 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 4: him some extra reps, kind of do some of those 145 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: things and see how he is physically, see how he 146 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: is kind of commanding the offense when he gets chances, 147 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: whether it's reps in practice or things on the side. 148 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: I would imagine it's that and you're looking at Carson 149 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: Wentz to start. But you know, if that changes and 150 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 4: he says, if they say, yeah, he's ready to go, 151 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 4: maybe you switch that up. I just think that's a 152 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: lot to ask for in a week when you could 153 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: use this week to say, let's have this be a 154 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: little bit of an incubator and see where he's at. 155 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 5: Tell tell me if I'm reading too much into it, 156 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: because it's tough where you know, we've joked about it 157 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: even nine to noon, where if Kevin O'Connell answers a 158 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 5: question at some point in that answer, the longer he talks, 159 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: you're going to start to get maybe some little morsels 160 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 5: and some little nuggets and clues. Sure, what's interesting to me? 161 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: And again, tell me if I'm reading too much into this. 162 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 5: At one point it was just there's an ankle injury. 163 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 5: Kid can't play, so we need to get them healthy 164 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: and get them back on the field. But in subsequent 165 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 5: conversations over the last couple of weeks, you've started to hear, well, 166 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 5: the footwork, well, the fundamentals and some other things that 167 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 5: you know, we were thinking maybe during training camp whether 168 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: or not it was perfected that kind of those conversations 169 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 5: that was in the past. It was the springtime conversation 170 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 5: throwing off platform, the mechanics of the of the position 171 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 5: and all of that. And then you felt that the 172 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: evolution being ready for week one at Soldier Field, that 173 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 5: this was no longer part of the conversation. Then we're 174 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: so now I'm deep in the weeds of well, how 175 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: much did the offensive line, you know, mash unit play 176 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 5: into what we saw the first few weeks. 177 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: Now he's hurt, but now I'm. 178 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: Starting to hear about footwork and some fundamentals and some 179 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 5: things again as part of the health and the rehabilitation. 180 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 5: You know, am I reading into much where it's like, 181 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 5: was there a regression? Was there specific issues that now 182 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 5: before he gets back on the field, I actually now 183 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: need to see that progress in practice as well, not 184 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 5: just his ability to go through reps in practice. 185 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 186 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: I mean he's said it enough that I don't think 187 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: that's an accident. I mean he's brought up the footwork 188 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: probably three or four times now, and I asked about 189 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: it again yesterday because I've been interested, Yeah, to see, 190 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: you know, kind of double click on this to say, okay, 191 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: what are we talking about specifically here? And he got 192 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: into a lot of things. I mean a lot of 193 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 4: coaching points you will hear Kevin O'Connell make with quarterbacks, 194 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: our base balance and body position. That's the thing you 195 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: hear him say over and over and over in tying 196 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: feet and eves together, all of those fundamental things. I 197 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: think those show up if they're not there and you 198 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: have that offensive line that they did where it is 199 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: a mass unit and you're not going to have as 200 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: many clean pockets. I think his point was, even when 201 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: you have dirty pockets, you have to get to those 202 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: places where you can throw from a solid platform and 203 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 4: then be able to make throws that hit people in stride, 204 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: hit people where that should. I mean all of those 205 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: things are tied together. And I think where the injury 206 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 4: comes in is that you're talking about his right ankle, 207 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: so it's his plant foot when he's throwing, and if 208 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: you don't feel good about the mechanics of it, and 209 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: then you throw in the injury, everything kind of just compounds. 210 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: If you're taking habits that they would like to still 211 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 4: be better, and you have an injury that he may 212 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: be compensating for. Just and this is how humans do 213 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: with injuries, right, We're going to have some compensatory patterns 214 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 4: when we have injuries that we're dealing with. And I 215 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: don't like how that feels, so let me kind of 216 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: adjust what I do. I think all of that stuff 217 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: kind of gets tied together. And when you're saying we 218 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: need to see this be clean, and we need to 219 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: see it especially be clean when it's an indication that 220 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: your foot is healed and that you're trusting your ankle 221 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: when you're pushing off, I think that's where a lot 222 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: of that stuff comes together. 223 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we talked about kind of just a coach's 224 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 5: commitment to a plan. Yeah, so whether in p brought 225 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 5: this up last week and we just kind of go 226 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 5: through it. It's like, because I want to read through 227 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 5: tea leaves and figure out when the heck the kid 228 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: QB is going to be back. Sure, he commits to 229 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 5: the first quarter suspension of Jordan Addison despite needing this 230 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 5: cat to be on the field help be productive for 231 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: your offense. He commits to the pitch count with your 232 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: left tackle. There, we're in a spot where justin school 233 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 5: is going one on one against Miles Garrett when we 234 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 5: absolutely need a touchdown to win that game. 235 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: Thankfully, it actually kind of worked out. 236 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 5: But with that said, committing to that idea that he's 237 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 5: got to be healthy, that only continually furthers my lean 238 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 5: that Carson and I'm still wondering about this shoulder. I know, 239 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 5: yeah I'm throwing, but if he's healthy enough to go, 240 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: I think that's I don't want to say it's obvious, 241 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 5: but it feels like that is the obvious answer. I 242 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 5: guess in the Sunday against Philly, yeah. 243 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: I think the only heade there is the shoulder. Like 244 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: you say, how bad is it and how effective is 245 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: he going to be if it's hit. 246 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then. 247 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: It's probably Brosmer If you don't feel like you're ready 248 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: with JJ desmin Ritter back yet, yeah. 249 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean you're figuring out all those things. 250 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: But the point about him not equivocating on things because well, 251 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: you know this isn't perfect, but we have to win 252 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 4: this week, so let's move off of the plan. You know, 253 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: whether it's Addison, whether it's the pitch count for Darresaw. 254 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: You have seen him say even if this is going 255 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: to possibly put us at a little bit of a 256 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 4: disadvantage in the short term, the long term, the overall 257 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: principle of what we're trying to do is the more 258 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: important thing here. And I do think their general approach 259 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 4: with McCarthy has been let's do these things when we 260 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: feel like he's ready to be sustainably successful, and you're 261 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: not going back and forth and I know, when he's 262 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: had the two games and then you're saying, well, on's 263 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: he going to go back in there? That can feel 264 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: like that, But I think some of it is okay, No, 265 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: there is something we need to get fixed, especially when 266 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: this injury comes into it and how that affects your 267 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: mechanics I think that all is part of it, where 268 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: you're saying the long term of this guy. I mean, 269 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 4: I just I wrote about this this morning that you 270 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: have quarterbacks across the NFL right now that were high 271 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: draft picks that washed out with their first teams, have 272 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: gone to a second or a third or a fourth 273 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: team in some cases, and are now some of the 274 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: best in the NFL. I mean, the top seeds in 275 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: each conference are quarterbacked by Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones, 276 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: two guys that were regarded to be busts in the 277 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 4: last year or two. I'm old enough to remember when 278 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: that was the case. Sam Darnold, the Force is playing 279 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: well in Seattle, and then Jared Goff. That's not new, 280 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: but Jared Goff has kind of gone through this reclamation too. 281 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: It's kind of a reminder we've seen it here in 282 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: two of those cases with Donald and Jones, that the 283 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: trajectory of this position takes longer than a couple of weeks. 284 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: And I think, as they are going through this, let's 285 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: keep the long term and the overall development of this 286 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: guy as the main thing. And that's I think where 287 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: some of these decisions come in. 288 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: Anybody ever get loud in your comments or responding to 289 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 3: a story excess Vikings newsletter or whatever. Anybody ever get 290 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: loud with the take that they should have paid Sam 291 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: Darnald and made McCarthy. 292 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, I've heard it. I mean I've never really 293 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: seen any of it. 294 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it hasn't it hasn't come up a 295 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: lot of heard it here and there. I mean you 296 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: get that occasionally, but I think everybody kind of knew 297 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: the plan. I mean when they're going to draft a guy, 298 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: and that got reinforced this offseason, when they don't pay Donald, 299 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 4: when they don't pay Jones, when they say thanks but 300 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: no thanks to Aaron Rodgers. I mean, they have been 301 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: committed to this idea of McCarthy, and then you know, 302 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: you can say, well, okay, why is that now leading 303 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: to all of these questions of when's he going to 304 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: go back in? Why don't you just play him and 305 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: put them on the field. But I think the overall, 306 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 4: you know, a week or two or three or four, 307 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 4: whatever it happens to be with Carson Wentz is different 308 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: than saying what's the long term. I think the long 309 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: term is still very much aj McCarthy and paying Donald 310 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 4: would have changed that trajectory. It's different to have Wentz 311 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: doing it for a couple of weeks as it is. 312 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: Donald gets three years, one hundred million dollars. I mean 313 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 4: that changes what you're doing over the course of a 314 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: couple of years. And I think when they looked at 315 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: it and said this is the guy for the next 316 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: in the life of this Rocky contract, at least that 317 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: was going to win out over anything else they might 318 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: have wanted to do. 319 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: Do you sense in any way they're the head coach 320 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: and or those around him are playing or having a 321 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: mental tug of war right now in that Yeah, we 322 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: can go on this kid and yeah, we can protect 323 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: this left shoulder here, the bad left shoulder where he 324 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: went nine for nine and won the game. Yeah, with 325 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: that bad shoulder. So therefore the tug of war would 326 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: be it's it's simply inherently from an experience factor. We 327 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: know what we're going to get here more than we 328 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: know what we're going to get here, and we're three 329 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: and two with a bunch of heavies in front of us. 330 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, is there a little little potential tuggle war taking place? Well? 331 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's always that question of you have 332 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: a guy that's won games. He was really effective at 333 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: the end of the game. You had to have even 334 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: with the shoulder, even with you know, missing what four 335 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: fifths of the offensive line that you want. I mean, 336 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 4: there are those things that come up in the short term. 337 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is. Yeah, I mean 338 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: we're talking about McCarthy and this level of development, this 339 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: level of Okay, we got to work on some mechanics 340 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 4: things here. We got to get him back from the 341 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: ankle in combination with the mechanics, I think, yeah, it 342 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: makes some sense to say Wentz is the guy for 343 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: the short term, and you know, you kind of get 344 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: McCarthy back when you feel like the time is right 345 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: to do it. But yeah, I mean there are always 346 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: those things of you're trying to win games. You're playing 347 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl champs this week. Then you have a 348 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: short week to go out to la in a tough 349 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: situation there, and then it's the Lions, and then the 350 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: Ravens have been a mess lately. But by that point 351 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: they probably have Lamar Jackson back, So the schedule is 352 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: still pretty formidable in terms of the teams you're going 353 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: to face. Yeah, you have to figure out all of 354 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: those things. And I think that's always the trick of 355 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: the trying to win a week to week league and 356 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: trying to have an overall development over the course of 357 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: you know, two, three, four, five years. 358 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 359 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: And you know this as well as anybody, and you know, 360 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: you have to be gifted for this, this maturation to 361 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: take place quickly. And what I'm talking about is Drake May. Yeah, 362 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: is Drake May last year, you know when when when 363 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: they dusted him off and went with him markedly different 364 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: than the Drake May who made some big plays at 365 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: New Orleans and bigger plays at Buffalo on Sunday night football. 366 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: Even the Drake May that we saw during the joint 367 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: practices where you know, there were times I watched him saying, 368 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: holy Cowie can't get his feet right and loops everything. Well, 369 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: that ain't the guy that we're seeing in the regular season. 370 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: It's clear that the confidence, his confidence in himself that 371 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: he can do it is meshing with the skill set 372 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: that led them to taking him that high. That should 373 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: be expected with McCarthy. I don't know when it's going 374 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 3: to take place, but when it does, that that's what 375 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 3: it should look like. 376 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah it is, And it's. 377 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 4: Worth noting because we're going to talk about Drake Bang, 378 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about Boeneck's just looking at this. 379 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: I mean, both those guys have had I think Nix 380 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 4: has had twenty three starts. May has had eighteen. You know, 381 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 4: that's different than two. So it does you go through 382 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: these growing pains. And the tricky part is this was 383 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: always going to be part of it. When they win 384 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: fourteen games last year, you are going to have this 385 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: this you know, balancing act of or tugle war, whatever 386 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: you want to call it of. We want to win 387 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: now because we have a veteran roster and we think 388 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 4: we can win with this quarterback. And it is going 389 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 4: to take a little bit of time to develop him, 390 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: so you know, I think the hope is you get 391 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: him to a point where he's at least playing complimentary football. 392 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 4: He's not deterring them or limiting them from winning. They're 393 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: not playing in spite of him, and I think you 394 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 4: could see him get to that point in the relatively 395 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: near future. I think a lot of it is he 396 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 4: hasn't played with Jordanatis, and he hasn't played with Christian Darrasa. 397 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I think all of those things will help 398 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: when he does get back out there, But there are 399 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 4: a lot of things to learn, There's no doubt about it. 400 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 4: And the confidence I think comes when you've had some success, 401 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: you've had those reps, you say there's some things in 402 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: the bank that I can lean on. 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End up Ben Gesling, Star Tribune, 429 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: Startribune dot Com. Thanks to standard heating and air joins 430 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: nine to new weekly on Tuesdays here at the team's facility. 431 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: Think of the Vikings defense through five. 432 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think you've seen a lot of moments where 433 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: they've come up with the plays they've had to have. 434 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, this offense has been trying to 435 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 4: figure it out. Having a defense that keeps you in 436 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 4: games tends to be a life preserver, right, and I 437 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: think you've seen that quite a bit. I mean, certainly 438 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: saw it in that game against the Browns, and I 439 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: think really against the Steelers to an extent, they got 440 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: run on in that game, and that's something they're going 441 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: to have to continue to get better at, especially with 442 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 4: this stretch of running backs they're going to see here 443 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 4: coming up, starting with Sakwon Barkley on Sunday. But yeah, 444 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 4: I think overall, their ability to get stops has been 445 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: one of those things that's allowed the Vikings to be 446 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: three and two, even though you've had all of these 447 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 4: quarterback changes, offensive line changes. Having that defense that can 448 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 4: preserve things and keep you in games is a necessary thing, 449 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: and that's been you know, that's a lot of the 450 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: reason they are where they are and not sitting you know, 451 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 4: two and three, one and four or something like that. 452 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: You watch games back, right, Yes, I do, every single one, ryep. 453 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: So there have been times this year where I've come 454 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 3: into like a radio week thinking about, you know, topics 455 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: for segments as the week goes on up to a game, 456 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: and there've been a couple of times where I've wanted 457 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: to jump into a segment saying they have to have 458 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: more from jay Von Hargrave, Okay, And then I would 459 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: watch back games and see how many times he's double teamed, yeah, 460 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: on almost every single play. Yeah, so okay, now, so 461 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: he's that's a high level of compensation for a double 462 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: drawing defensive tackle. He does have a couple of sacks, 463 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 3: but nevertheless, the question would be is if he's drawing 464 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: that attention, I don't know what the percentage is. Feels 465 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: like it's sixty sixty five percent of the time that 466 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: he's getting that double. 467 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: From whom do you need more? 468 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: And by not having Andrew van Genkole, Yeah, I mean 469 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: not having Gank it changes so much with this defense, right. 470 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it totally does. 471 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: I mean you saw it eight snaps and he had 472 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: two sacks in that and they just look different when 473 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: they have him. I think when you talk about defensive tackles, 474 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: you know they want pass rush from those guys. Yes, 475 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 4: and that's part of the reason Hargrave and Jonathan Allen 476 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 4: are here. But when you're getting doubles, one of the 477 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 4: benefits of that is you are if you can just 478 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: sustain and not let blockers get off, you know, neutralize 479 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: you and get to the second level, you are creating 480 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: space for linebackers to run free. I mean that can 481 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: be part of the job, especially in the three down 482 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 4: front where you have people trying to take on you know, 483 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: possibly two gaps and man things where they're able to 484 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 4: create space for those linebackers. So I think that's especially 485 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: where when you have Van Ginkel, you have Blake Cashman 486 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: who they could get back here. Those linebackers are the 487 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 4: people that probably stand to benefit from that the most. 488 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: When you have a tackle like that that's sucking up 489 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 4: that many blockers, sucking up that much space, even if 490 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 4: he's not getting home, that can still set up other people. 491 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 4: And yeah, I think that's where you see it is 492 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 4: you don't have the people that would probably be in 493 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: best position to take advantage of those things. And yeah, 494 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 4: I think you've certainly seen it, especially with no Van Ginkle, 495 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: they look a lot different. 496 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 5: Now we've talked about pitch counts for Christian Darisa. I'm 497 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 5: curious what the vibe is with Harrison Smith moving forward 498 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 5: and you know all these injuries. You know, you talk 499 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 5: about Van Ginkle and yeah, it'd be great to have 500 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: Cashman back. I'm just thinking about Harrison a little bit 501 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 5: where you know, we've been so used to him playing 502 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 5: ninety eight percent of the snaps. Floras himself like I 503 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 5: try to take reps off of them, but I just 504 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 5: I can't count too two off the field, different story 505 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 5: it appears here in twenty twenty five. 506 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: Does this feel to you. 507 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 5: Where it is similar where we're rebuilding this thing to 508 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 5: full strength, or is this potentially a situation where back 509 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 5: end of his career that we kind of have to 510 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: get used to kind of this new look where it 511 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 5: will be a lot more of Mettellus and Theo Jackson 512 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 5: and Harrison Smith. We're kind of picking our spots with 513 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 5: that man. 514 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would imagine that as we go, you're going 515 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 4: to see him get back to a level we're more 516 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 4: familiar with. I don't think this is the stretch where 517 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, we're just kind of in this honorary 518 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: role and not playing as much. I don't think that's 519 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 4: something that he would necessarily be in favor of. I 520 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: think he's saying, if I'm gonna go, I still trust 521 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: that my body's good enough that I can go right, 522 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: And I think it has been getting ramped up coming back. 523 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: I think the plan is to have him play more 524 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 4: as we get through the season here, and maybe it's 525 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: not a bad thing if you're talking about I guy 526 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 4: that's thirty six years old, that you take some snaps 527 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: off of him early, expecting that you're going to need 528 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: him making big plays in December and January, and they hope, 529 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: you know, well into January. But I think the plan 530 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 4: will be to get him more involved as we go. 531 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: I think you'll see that start to change. But yeah, 532 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: it has been a lot different. I mean, you know, 533 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 4: cover the guy every year of his career. My first 534 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 4: year on the beat was his rookie year, and seeing 535 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 4: him not on the field is not a common sight, 536 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: that's for sure. 537 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 3: What version of the Eagles do you think the Vikings 538 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: will get Sunday Noon, kfam. 539 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 4: I think they will get a version that is kind 540 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 4: of angry. I mean, after these couple of games, they 541 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: have to be coming in pretty hot and pretty ready 542 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: to prove a point. So you know, the question with them, 543 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 4: I think is the way they run the ball. Can 544 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: they do that well enough to control the game with Hurts, 545 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: with Barkley, I mean, you know, just all of the 546 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: ways that they like to play, I think gives them 547 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: a good chance against the team that has had trouble 548 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: against the run. I mean, I think that's you know, 549 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 4: when Kevin O'Connell knows is what it takes. Meeting tomorrow, 550 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 4: I'm sure that that's going to be one of the 551 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 4: principles that comes up pretty early, is trying to keep 552 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: that run game from commanding everything. You go back to 553 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 4: that game in twenty three when they played them in 554 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: Philly on a Thursday night and their Eagles ran for 555 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 4: you know, two hundred and thirty yards or whatever it was. 556 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 4: They were productive, but it was also the way that 557 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 4: they just controlled the game. That they possessed the ball. 558 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: I think close to forty minutes in that game, if 559 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 4: I remember right, and your offense just can't work in 560 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: the same facet as it would if you're holding the 561 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: ball for you know, twenty nine to thirty minutes and 562 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 4: you know, you go out from there. 563 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: They've had trouble with that. 564 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: The Vikings have had trouble with that getting enough plays 565 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: early in the season, the first couple of games when 566 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 4: they're talking about we only have forty five. 567 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: Plays or whatever it is. 568 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: The Eagles are a team that, if you're not careful defensively, 569 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: can put you in that type of a situation. I 570 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: think if they come out angry and looking to assert 571 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 4: themselves with the run game. That's what I'd expect to see, 572 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: and that's what the Vikings are gonna have to be ready. 573 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: For if if Cashman returns this weekend. Yeah, who do 574 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: you think steps back? I mean, is it absolutely Wilson? 575 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: Who? Yeah? Step back? Yeah? Or and it's just beating 576 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: around the bush a little bit. Yes. 577 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: I don't think Ivan paced Junior has been anything super 578 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: special this year. Now you've seen this too. The longer 579 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: the backups play, the more they regress, right, That's why 580 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 3: they're back, right. So I mean it's you know, do 581 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: you really want to put five six hundred plays on 582 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: Eric Wilson this year? 583 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean speaking about speaking a mental giant rate 584 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: right right, there is that balancing act there. 585 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: I agree that I've in Pace has not been probably 586 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 4: what the Vikings would want. I mean, we've seen moments 587 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 4: where he's aggressive. We see a lot of this with him, 588 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 4: but probably jumping gaps, getting out of spots that we've 589 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 4: seen some of those things happen in these first few games. 590 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: Eric Wilson has come in pretty capably and he gives 591 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: them a steady presence. But there is always that question 592 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 4: is if you play him more does that regression to 593 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: the mean happen where he is getting. 594 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: Exposed a little bit where it is six hundred snaps. 595 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: So I think you may see situations where, especially in 596 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 4: passing situations, you see Wilson a little more often. You know, 597 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 4: Pace has been effective as a blitzer, especially when Cashman 598 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: is there too. I think that's also worth considering how 599 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 4: those two play off of each other. But Wilson in 600 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 4: coverage I think gives them more than Pace does. I 601 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: wonder if it'll be, you know, kind of a mix 602 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 4: and match there, if it's going to be more drop 603 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: eight situations where you know, third downs like they'd like 604 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: to do. They've blitzed first, the second sometimes then the third, 605 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 4: it's rush three, drop eight. Maybe you see Wilson in 606 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: those settings a little more often. Good seeing you again, 607 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 4: my brother, to see you as well. 608 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 3: Anything we need to know about Access Vikings, the podcast. 609 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 4: Or the newsletter, it's all coming later this week. We'll 610 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: have the podcast, we'll typically record tomorrow, a new episode tomorrow, 611 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: mailbag episode Friday, newsletter also out Friday, and then Sunday 612 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 4: stories me this week, just looking at the cornerback that 613 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: the Vikings picked up from the Eagles, who has been 614 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 4: somewhat successful earlier this season. 615 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: I say it Rogers and Sundays, we hear you. 616 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: Vikings Football Sunday about lady twenty yep, forty minutes before 617 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: the game yep. 618 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: Generally yeah, right in there. I'll be in the in 619 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: the radio booth and we'll fire it up. 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First of all, yes, 645 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: per Valstett, I believe I pronounced that correctly. 646 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: Terrific. 647 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: In a shootout last night, finding the Minnesota Wild now 648 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 5: two and one to start the twenty twenty five twenty 649 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 5: six campaign. 650 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: It was a power. 651 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 5: Play bonanza in the first period's taking a three to 652 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 5: nothing lead for the Wild, Kings found their way back 653 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 5: in the third period. My sources, I e. Brett Blakemore, 654 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 5: we were arguing and well not really arguing, but he 655 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 5: fed Falstet were fantastic. I think maybe one of them 656 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 5: was a problem. But in the end they tie it up, 657 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 5: they go to Hei. There's no goals shootout takes place, 658 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 5: only one goal needed and Valstet with a big stop 659 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 5: sends the Wild into the winner's circle. Now with that said, 660 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 5: no rest for the winners in this particular case, they're 661 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 5: heading down, I believe, to Dallas this evening to face 662 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 5: the Stars. So a nice little division collision on a 663 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: Tuesday night for your two to one Minnesota wide double b. 664 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: Give us your best thirty seconds on what you think 665 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: of the first three Wild games, and good morning. 666 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: And good morning. Apologies for the voice. I'm very sick. 667 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed them. Obviously, you don't want to take 668 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: the foot off the gas like they did last night. 669 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 2: In the second period. 670 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: You got up three goals, they almost caught up four goals, 671 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: and then kind of let them back into the game. 672 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: I think the first goal was Wallstet could have done 673 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: much better, but the other two I thought he had 674 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: no chance on. But the resiliency, we love to talk 675 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: about it, the fight back. So we'll see what happens 676 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: on the back end of a back to back. But overall, 677 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: good things for the Wild. 678 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 5: Sweet dig that you're going to get to hear that 679 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 5: tonight on your home for a Wild Hockey the fan 680 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 5: and to the NFL, we will you know what, actually 681 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 5: I want to do this just a few minutes to 682 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 5: bounce around from a baseball standpoint I mentioned to you, 683 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 5: and I think we were in lockstep. We got to 684 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 5: get Softy from Seattle on the on the hotline at 685 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 5: some point this week because these ms, these Mariners might 686 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 5: be on a run. 687 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: They're two to nothing, they're up two. 688 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 5: Rip on the Toronto Blue in the ALCS and it 689 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 5: was cal Raley in a three to one effort in 690 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 5: Game one last night. The offense was coming from all 691 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 5: over the freaking place as Seattle beat Toronto in Toronto 692 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 5: ten to three. And they get a chill day today 693 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 5: because of travel. But other than that, early and often 694 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: you get the three run home run in the first 695 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 5: to get that three to nothing lead, Jays would tie 696 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 5: it up, but once it went to the bullpen, the 697 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 5: Mariners cruised their way with seven unanswered to find themselves 698 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 5: in the winner circle. And then on the NL side 699 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 5: of things, it was Dodgers and brew Crew last night. Brewers, 700 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 5: I think there was yeah, I think it was Freddie 701 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: Freeman with a single with a solo home run in 702 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 5: the sixth, they get the insurance run top of nine, 703 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 5: and the Brewers did score one and left the bases 704 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: loaded as it was a swinging strike three and the 705 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 5: Dodgers fined one in Milwaukee two to one. 706 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: They're up one nothing in the series. Game two is tonight. 707 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 5: But the championship series are sweet, man, And you know, 708 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: I've joked about it, like rob Manfred probably hasn't drawn 709 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 5: it up from a revenue standpoint, Like man, it'd be 710 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 5: sweet if the Brewers and the Mariners were in the 711 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 5: World Series. But with that said, both teams very game 712 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 5: Dodgers Brewers. Looks like it could be a long series, 713 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 5: and it's fun to see the Mariners on this little 714 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 5: run here. 715 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to see the bottom lines for each 716 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: team because just at first blush, I mean, it seems 717 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: from afar like the La Dodgers in a cap list game. 718 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 719 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: Well, they either choose to or can outspend all three 720 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: of the other teams combined. So it's you know, the 721 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: the La Dodgers have yet to lose a game in 722 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: the playoffs, and they kind of stumbled into the postseason 723 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: a little bit too. This completely looks like a team 724 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: that is so cocksure and so confident in itself. It's 725 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: the it's the push button mentality. You guys can all 726 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: trip on Mookie, guys can all trip on Munsey. Go 727 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: ahead and trip I'm the catcher, you know, Will Smith pitching, 728 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: Blake Snell, the whole thing. 729 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: When we pushed that button, you're all dead. That's it. 730 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: That's the end of the story. 731 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: Because we have the best players, we have the most money, 732 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 3: We're willing to spend the most money, and we're not. 733 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 2: Going to lose. 734 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a shame for what used to be 735 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: known as America's pastime. If they just continue to win 736 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 3: and win and win, and they just sweep their way 737 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 3: through the World Series, I mean, it'd be good for 738 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: Dodger fans, but just kind of grappy for the league though. 739 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 5: Well, I mean just even the matchup, for instance, the 740 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 5: Milwaukee Brewers. This is from I just scrambled on Google machine. 741 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 5: They're twenty third. I was talking so long I knew 742 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 5: what you were doing. USA today has the Brewers twenty 743 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 5: third with one hundred and fifteen million dollars payroll. 744 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 2: The LA Dodgers are number two at three. 745 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 5: Twenty one, behind the Mets. So behind the Mets at 746 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 5: three twenty three. So the Dodgers have almost tripled the 747 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 5: payroll and they're potentially in for a grind. 748 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: They haven't. 749 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 5: They haven't lost a game to your point, but they've 750 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 5: they've actually tripled. 751 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 2: Up almost the the team they're playing. 752 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, in the Seattle Mariners at a buck forty six, 753 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 5: where the Blue Jays at two thirty nine sore. Wow, 754 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 5: your cej are thirty nine. They're paying somebody over there. 755 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: So got a nice TV deal up there Toronto, way, 756 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: don't they? 757 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 5: Well? Orge Polanco with a three run shot off of 758 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 5: Louis Varland Twin on twin violence taking place in the 759 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 5: Alcs last thing for you, and then we're gonna get 760 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 5: to the head coach and pause. Josh Allen and the 761 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 5: Bills appear broken. Big part of their success a year 762 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 5: ago lack of turnovers. I think it was like eight 763 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 5: or nine as a team the whole season. The last 764 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 5: two games for them resulting in losses with the Patriots 765 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 5: in the and then last night the Falcons in Atlanta 766 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 5: just giving the ball to the other team. 767 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: It's a problem for them. 768 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: Bears found their way past a turnover laden Commanders team 769 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 5: last night too. 770 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: Ben beloved bj Ben Johnson got those Bears playing pretty 771 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: good right now. 772 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: They're in the NFC North. 773 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 3: The Vikings get them at home a month month and 774 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: change from now. Somewhere during that and to chat about 775 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 3: the Vikings schedule and current things transpiring with our favorite 776 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: football team, head coach Kevin O'Connell joins us for XES 777 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: and o's around the corner. 778 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: It's k F a M