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Speaker 1: You don't want to be an American, all right, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Do it.

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Speaker 3: A lot happening over the weekend, as you know here

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Speaker 3: at Scott Flown on seven hundred WLW week follow what's

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Speaker 3: happening in Iran with a lot of interest obviously too

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Speaker 3: is we have some casualties now on the American side.

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Speaker 1: More on that in a bit.

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Speaker 3: First all a little bit closer to home or a

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Speaker 3: lot closer to home. We had nine people shot inside

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Speaker 3: of Cincinnati's one of our largest music venues overnight at

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Speaker 3: Riverfront Live. A gunman got past mel detector somehow opened

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Speaker 3: with a handgun and shot a bunch of people. Nine injured. Fortunately,

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Speaker 3: everyone is going to recover. This happened about one am

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Speaker 3: Sunday morning on Kellogg Avenue in the East End. Non

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Speaker 3: life threatening gunshot wounds. Everybody's stable condition, but some people

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Speaker 3: were trampled leaving the venue in indegurery that way. Still

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Speaker 3: no one has been arrested in this case. She is

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Speaker 3: a member of the Public Safety and Governance Committee and

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Speaker 3: joins the show this morning, and that's Council Member Anna

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Speaker 3: Alby on seven hundred W All, Good morning, how are you,

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Speaker 3: how's your weekend?

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Speaker 4: Good morning. Well, I appreciate being here today. I wish

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Speaker 4: it was under better circumstances.

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Speaker 3: As always got right right, you know it is. It's

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Speaker 3: a story, is oldest time. We're going to have a

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Speaker 3: lot of people together and you're gonna get knuckleheads with

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Speaker 3: a gun.

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Speaker 1: Nothing new there.

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Speaker 3: But I think what's interesting here, Anna, is the gunman

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Speaker 3: got pasted, a pat down, a wand a walk through

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Speaker 3: metal detector maybe all three. And as a lawmaker, what

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Speaker 3: does that tell you about the limits of private venue security?

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Speaker 3: But more importantly, we know that a lot of I

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Speaker 3: don't know a lot maybe, but at least a handful

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Speaker 3: of CPD off duty officers were there as part of

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Speaker 3: the security detail, and yet this happened.

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Speaker 1: That that's pretty disturbing, it is.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I music venue, h you know, I've

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Speaker 4: it's one of those instances where it just hits close

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Speaker 4: to home because we all want to be able to

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Speaker 4: go out and have these types of events in our city, right.

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Speaker 4: We want to be able to welcome, you know, performers

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Speaker 4: and have these concerts. And to think that even with

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Speaker 4: what sounds like all the right security things in place

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Speaker 4: that something so tragic can still happen. I'll be honest

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Speaker 4: with something like this. It truly leads me, you know,

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Speaker 4: a little speechless almost because to your point, there were

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Speaker 4: was you know, metal detectors. So at some point we

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Speaker 4: have to say, come on, like, we need responsible gun owners.

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Speaker 4: We need people who know how to deal with their

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Speaker 4: issues without pulling out a deadly weapon.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but these are pretty clearly I'm going to

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Speaker 3: go on and look, I'm a I'm a gunner. Ninety

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Speaker 3: nine percent of people are law abiding gun owners. This

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Speaker 3: isn't someone being responsible, irrespond, This is just someone who

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Speaker 3: you know a man child or woman child generally as

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Speaker 3: a man child. That this has nothing new with gun owners,

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Speaker 3: responsible gun ownership. This and I'll go on record as

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Speaker 3: saying I'm gonna I'm gonna bet the person that let

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Speaker 4: I don't know that that's information that's still you know,

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Speaker 4: under investigation, I.

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Speaker 3: Say, and I'm gonna bet that that person should not

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's true, and it's so you know, are we

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Speaker 4: work closely through the Grime Crime Gun Intelligence Center with

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Speaker 4: off the streets for that very reason. Right, So I

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Speaker 4: think you and I agree here, like if people shouldn't

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: So whatever we can do locally to make sure that

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Speaker 4: But we know more broadly, we are seeing already this

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Speaker 4: year multiple situations where frankly, alcohol en firearms don't Mixinitely,

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Speaker 4: We've had multiple shootings now that are in the content

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Speaker 4: leave the guns at home, Leave the guns at home. Right,

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Speaker 4: We want you, you and everyone else to be safe

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Speaker 4: and Also again, people are just lacking the ability to

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Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, it's not even that, it's just like

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Speaker 3: people just don't know that. There's whole Semmens society does

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Speaker 3: not know how to settle an argument or debate maybe

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Speaker 3: Probably was pretty something stupid as well. But this is

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Speaker 3: a long like someone this is like deliberately walked in

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Speaker 3: because they were on camo and everything else. So how

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent, I think how they get through, how

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Speaker 4: and understand how this can happen. You know, I will

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Speaker 4: highlight in the state statute because I looked this up yesterday.

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Speaker 4: You know, guns are allowed in bars unless a private

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Speaker 4: venue takes all those steps which we saw done. To me,

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Speaker 4: there should just be a blanket wall that says no

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Speaker 3: Well, there are right, you're not allowed to have a

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Speaker 3: so it's but but that's why they had metalt it.

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Speaker 3: The policy was no guns, and this one got through security. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you go back to what was it, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: So it goes to show you, you know, that knuckleheads

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Speaker 1: But it cameo.

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Speaker 3: The story was that if you had a VIP entry

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Speaker 3: And that's the disturbing part of cameo was like we

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Speaker 3: maybe some things violating liquor laws or liquor licenses on

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Speaker 3: safety prior safety concerns at We're Front Live and whether

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Speaker 4: That's a great question. The answers know that this is

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Speaker 4: not a nuisance property. There hadn't been repeated issues, so

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Speaker 4: I think again that that speaks the fact that from

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Speaker 4: They had the CPD detailed, they had security, they had

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Speaker 4: more broadly, I think all the city is taking all

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Speaker 4: So that's why taking swift action was in between with

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Speaker 4: other nightclubs and bars previously, we have taken a firm

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Speaker 4: steps necessary. That's why we're here, you know, doing everything

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Speaker 4: just kind of encourage people, Hey, when you're going out

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Speaker 4: leave a gun at home. You know what, I will

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Speaker 4: even take leaving it in a lock box in your car, right,

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Speaker 4: like even that much. Just be relaunchable, be a smart

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Speaker 3: Well, we know that you should. You know that, like

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Speaker 3: we need another ordinance. I guess if people don't buy.

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Speaker 3: But we know that the main reason people young people,

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Speaker 3: on what I've seen so far, it seems like that

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Speaker 3: to bring my handgun in and concealed carry anna. Quite honestly,

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Speaker 3: I hear this and go, should I be carrying in

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Speaker 3: valid question for the For people who are lawful gun owners,

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Speaker 3: it make you illegal. But guess what I got to

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Speaker 3: fight and chance?

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Speaker 1: Then does this?

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Speaker 1: No, but well, isn't that. But isn't that the idea

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Speaker 1: that you carry a gun?

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Speaker 3: You're telling me, okay, gotta leave your gun in the car,

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Speaker 3: I gotta leave you Okay, great, I lock it up.

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Speaker 1: I don't bring my weapon.

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Speaker 3: All it takes is one person who, by the way,

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Speaker 3: That makes me want to bring my gun more.

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Speaker 4: I do not want to turn Cincinnati into the wild

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Speaker 4: West here, right, you know, I probably over it already.

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Speaker 3: But literally, people getting trampled and everything else in the

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Speaker 3: Can you tell me, because you were on public safety

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Speaker 3: Been sharing, So we wouldn't say if an arrest is imminent,

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Speaker 3: that far. Gotcha. She is a council member. Ann Holby

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Speaker 3: Just you know, it makes you frightened, you know, and

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Speaker 3: and this is what happens. She's Anna Alby. Thanks again

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, appreciate ITAA.

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Speaker 3: we'll continue talking about this topic here. So, yeah, a shooting.

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Speaker 3: You know with DJ you're probably not gonna be in

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Speaker 1: He deliberately leave your.

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Speaker 3: Gun in there. He brought in the there deliberately to

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Speaker 3: I was talking to Annaho a Bee minutes ago public

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Speaker 3: guns into a facility, a building like this. Yeah, yeah,

437
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 3: we know that. But I don't think there's a responsible

438
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 3: gun owner. As I said, I'm willing to bet the

439
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 3: farm that this individual had priors it prevented them from

440
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 3: having a weapon like this in the first place. Called

441
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 3: weapons or disability and disability is that you're convicted already

442
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 3: of something, a felony that would prevent you from having

443
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 3: that weapon. Man, you think somebody just woke up one

444
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,479
Speaker 3: day and said, Okay, I'm gonna go in there. I mean,

445
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,640
Speaker 3: I could be wrong about that. I've been wrong about

446
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: things in the past. But it just feels me with

447
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 3: the environment at the time of night and all that,

448
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 3: that this person probably already had things happening in their past.

449
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: They shouldn't have had that gun in the first place.

450
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 3: That's not a responsible gun owner. Now, you could become

451
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 3: an irresponsible gun owner and bring a gun into a

452
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 3: venue like that and not pull it out and have

453
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 3: it on your person just in case something happens. Yeah,

454
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 3: and that makes you. That makes you a lawbreaker, right,

455
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 3: it makes your criminal, sure does.

456
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

457
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 3: I look at Austin, Texas. Two people killed, fourteen wounded.

458
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 3: A guy opens fire outside of buyer early yesterday. The

459
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 3: FBI said that there's indications of terrorism. The guy they

460
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: had tirewell, he's dead now. But fifty three year old

461
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: Singhalis Men, allegedly wearing a T shirt with an Iranian

462
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 3: flagun at screaming out of lockbar, was responsible. He drove

463
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: around the neighborhood multiple times in an suv before he

464
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: fired out the window with people at the bar, and

465
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 3: then he parked the car nearby and started shooting at

466
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 3: pedestrians and the police got there. And killed the guy,

467
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: and ems responded to the shooting I think within fifty

468
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 3: seven seconds, which is incredible, but still too dead and

469
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 3: fourteen wounded. Okay, he's not a responsible gun owner. That's

470
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: it sounds like it's a terrorist, is what it sounds like.

471
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 3: Retaliating for Iran, And we're probably sadly going to see

472
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 3: in the realities, we're going to see more of that

473
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 3: belong to this drags on. Okay, that's part of living

474
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: in society today. We're always at risk. The minute you

475
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 3: leave your houll you know, obviously say leave your house,

476
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: but the minute you meant you wake up in the morning,

477
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 3: if you wake up, there's a chance that something bad

478
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: could happen. It's a very very very small chance. Shouldn't

479
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: live our lives in fear. But I think my points

480
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 3: vowed were, Hey, look, if you know I go to

481
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 3: a bar or a restaurant or a game, whatever it

482
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 3: might be, and you know there's a number of people around.

483
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: I know the sign says gun for z own, you're

484
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: not allowed to bring it in there. And this place

485
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: even had metal detectors crying out loud, you'd probably be

486
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 3: pretty dumb to try and bring a gun in, which

487
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: makes you think that maybe he knew somebody at the

488
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 3: door or got you know, a kind of got like

489
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: a side door opened in the past, like with Cameo.

490
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: We don't know yet. We'll find out.

491
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: But my point is I just I assume you just

492
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: assume in there that okay, it's a gun for his zone.

493
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: No one has a gun. Well guess look what just happened.

494
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not suggesting, you know, And I don't think

495
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: my life is at risk in any time when I

496
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 3: go out, and sometimes I carry, depending on the situation,

497
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: sometimes not, but largely not because it's just the pain

498
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: I'm about to have to lock the gun up and

499
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 3: everything else. But here's an example where at least at

500
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: this nightclub, maybe you had a chance. Although there are

501
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: a lot of people around. I don't think it's a

502
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 3: good idea to open fire with thousands of people around.

503
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 3: But who knows what the what the situation was, and

504
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: the investigation will find out whether or not there's an

505
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 3: opportunity there.

506
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: And I get it.

507
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: These are things that make good people want to break

508
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: the law and care of their guns, what I'm saying.

509
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: And we've been innudated with this and Hallett is just

510
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: the beginning the first hours of March, and we've already

511
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: had shootings too numerous dimension in January February when we

512
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: had extreme cold through the area. And this is what

513
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: scares me about things getting warmer and how much worse

514
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: it might get this summer. I hope that's not the case.

515
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: I certainly hope that that is not the case. You know,

516
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: we go I don't know the details all of this thing,

517
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: and it's just coming up, but it seems like we

518
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: really better for backwards to go back in history and

519
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 3: look for stuff to be offended about.

520
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: I bring this up because a.

521
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: Founding Senior Crossroads Church pastor, Brian Tom has been suspended.

522
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 3: They're doing an independent investigation into inappropriate physical humor. Speaking

523
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: for everyone in radio and entertainment, I don't think there's anything.

524
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I'm trying to think of a definition

525
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: of inappropriate. Physically, I think all physical humor is very appropriate.

526
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: Might have been at the wrong time. Maybe I am

527
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: pro physical humor. So there's an independent review of what

528
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: they called inappropriate conducted and label from a I guess

529
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: a video shoot from twenty to fifteen. So we're going

530
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: back over a decade ago to twenty fifteen. They looked

531
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 3: into this two years ago and I guess their spiritual

532
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 3: bored or the whoever investigates such things, and they had

533
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: a conversation with Pastor Tome and reminded him that he

534
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: is the leader of the church and kind of admonished

535
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: him somewhat and slapped him on the rest and said,

536
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: you just need to keep kind of be mindful. It

537
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: wasn't anything to get fired over. Having a big investigator

538
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: criminal nothing criminal wrongdoing with suggestion here. I don't know

539
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 3: what the inappropriate physical humor was during a video shoot,

540
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: but maybe caught up in the moment and certainly is

541
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: a man, you know, a moral man but also mortal.

542
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, you just want a little otside of

543
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 3: what a pastor should be done, fair enough, and he

544
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: got a slap by the rest of it. You probably

545
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: need to be more mindful this thing. So why are

546
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 3: we opening this again? We're doing this again. So the

547
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 3: same community member, church member contacted the church about the incident.

548
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: So they're now going to bring in an independent investigator

549
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: to look into this thing. And maybe there's something to

550
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: do with the staff member that was fired in January.

551
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: I think this creep had I think it was videoing

552
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: women working out a crunch and Oakley right across the street.

553
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the whole situation, but it's like, you know,

554
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: how far back do you go and you look at

555
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: someone's record, going, Okay, it was ten years ago and

556
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: already knew this about you and whatever punishment there was,

557
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: and it really wasn't much punishment.

558
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: It was more like.

559
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: A correction of behavior and it didn't rise to him

560
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: being suspended or fired or anything like that. So but

561
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: now we've got to look at it a second time.

562
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: It's just a weird it's a bizarre stories. What it

563
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 3: is very very bizarre, very very bizarre. You know, it

564
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: fell off the face of the earth since we had

565
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: all this big news is trying to figure out what

566
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: happened with the boat from Florida that went to Cuba

567
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: and got these guys got killed here anything else about that,

568
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: And now that we've attacked Iran and you know there's

569
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: some terrorists. I just I don't know what to make

570
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: of this whole thing. It's just one of those stories

571
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: that kind of felt like it's like Savannah Guthrie's mouth.

572
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: Nancy Guthrie. It's gonna fay off all off the face

573
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: of the earth because while we're in a new news

574
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 3: cycle now we've got shooting here, but more part nationally speaking,

575
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 3: it's Iran, and that's gonna take a lot of oxygen

576
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: jump in the in the media newsroom. I'm just not sure.

577
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what happened that whole I just wanted

578
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 3: to put that out there.

579
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 6: Go.

580
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you remember that Cuban boat? Somebody will asking

581
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: about that in a couple of months ago. Hey, remember

582
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: that those people that took the boat to Cuba and

583
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: they got shot killed? What what the hell was that about?

584
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 3: Not sure if the Florida, if the state of Florida

585
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 3: or someone from Florida decided that they were gonna go

586
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: in and start war war in Cuba, gonna go free

587
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 3: Cuba or something like that. They're in a little bay

588
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: of piglet. Bay of piglets is what we'll call this thing.

589
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: We'll call it the Bay of piglets. Uh, it's five one, three,

590
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: seven thousand, real quick here, let me get to Brett

591
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: and Mason here on the big one.

592
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 5: Brett, how you doing good? I just want to I

593
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: just want to talk about you know, I was listening

594
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 5: to that in the conference with the mayor and all

595
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 5: that stuff. Yeah, and you know, look, man, everybody wants

596
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: to have talked about responsible gun ownership, gun ownership, responsible

597
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: this you know, guns. This this is not about guns.

598
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 5: This is about a culture and about morality and about

599
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 5: the way these people are brought up and raised. Uh,

600
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: it's much deeper than guns. This is a cultural thing, okay,

601
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 5: where they decide to use guns instead of other things, right,

602
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, arguing, I don't know whatever whatever

603
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 5: they can use besides guns. But this, this is not

604
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 5: a gun thing. And you know the talking about love,

605
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 5: teach your guns, you know, locked up, don't let them

606
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 5: steal guns out of your cars. Well, how is it

607
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 5: my in my responsibility is for some reason, and I'm

608
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 5: unlucky enough to have a firearm stolen from me. Now

609
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 5: I'm the problem. I'm the reason that these people got shot.

610
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 5: I think it's very irresponsible to continue to point the

611
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 5: finger at inanimate objects or whatever you want to say,

612
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 5: right because the guy could add a knife and knife

613
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 5: incisee nine people up.

614
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: But I don't to get right about that. I mean,

615
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: we have lost the ability. It seems like we've lost

616
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: in our culture the ability to have a debate, to

617
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: be reasoned. And I think it's even true for the

618
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: intellectual class. I mean, you know, we just spend all

619
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: the time, look at political rallies and everything else. People

620
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: spend time just shouting everyone else down. A student, you

621
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: got a college campus, and you have to have an

622
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: area where it's a safe zone because I'm allowed to

623
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: exercise my First Amendment rights but you're not. And of

624
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: course this fits in the d on a bunch of

625
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: the things as well, and you're right, it's it's and

626
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: now society has course, and at least in this way anyway,

627
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: in many ways we're much better. But where people will

628
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: just pick up a gun where they used to use

629
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: their fists of their mouth, and it's it's the fault

630
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: into that, and so you know, putting the bonus back

631
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: on responsible. Look, I brought it up a few times, going, look,

632
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: if you bring a gun with you, If you have

633
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: a gun and you're like, I'm not going to bring

634
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: it in there, you should have a lock box, right,

635
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: you should if you can afford the gun, in the

636
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: in the ammunition, have it secured in a safe somewhere

637
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: and I don't know if an ordinance helps with that

638
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: or not. Probably not, but I you know, i'd like

639
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: to think that responsible gunners go, Okay, well I've got

640
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: a trigger lock, I got a safe. I need one

641
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: of my vehicle in my trunk wherever, so I could

642
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: at least make an attempt to do that, because so

643
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: many people are just sticking in the console under the

644
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: seat that people are breaking in and stealing it.

645
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that solves.

646
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 5: Come on, I mean, we both know how easily you know,

647
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: guns are available, and it doesn't matter if somebody steals

648
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 5: one of they're gonna get They're going to get a gun.

649
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 5: But you know, the bottom line. And see, I talked

650
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 5: to these folks. I've talked to these young kids, these

651
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 5: young black kids, and I act them straight up. I said, hey,

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Speaker 5: you know, why, why why guns? What's with the gun?

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Speaker 5: But why can't you guys get out into the street,

654
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Speaker 5: do some fistic cups, yell at each other, settle your differences,

655
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Speaker 5: you know. And and he's like, they just don't want to, man,

656
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Speaker 5: because they just don't want to. They just think that

657
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Speaker 5: using a gun is the way, it is the way

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Speaker 5: to go. And and and so it's it's a cultural thing, man.

659
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Speaker 5: It's a subculture of folks that just think that guns

660
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Speaker 5: are the answer to any argument or any disagreement.

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Speaker 7: And that's what I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not bright, I'm not I'm not saying that, Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's our fault because we live our guns in our

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Speaker 3: car unlocked. I'm saying, is it used to be people

665
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Speaker 3: breaking the windows to steal change out of your you know,

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Speaker 3: out of your console or find and then it was like, oh,

667
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Speaker 3: I got you got a nice stereo. I'm ripping that

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Speaker 3: off the number ringers. And now that young people are

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Speaker 3: doing this and such, and we saw this with the

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Speaker 3: hinting thing is that they they think there's a gun

671
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Speaker 3: in there. They're looking for weapons as well as other

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Speaker 3: valuables too. So it is the reality. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they should put more burden not legal gun owners

674
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Speaker 3: like ourselves. But I'll tell you what, more these things happen,

675
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Speaker 3: the more I want to become like the criminals and

676
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Speaker 3: carry with me when I shouldn't. I'll be honest with you,

677
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Speaker 3: what's the whole point of self defense if I'm leaving

678
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Speaker 3: my gun in the car.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's true too, but in the support systems. Where's

680
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Speaker 5: the punishment?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 5: I I as part of as part of anyway I was.

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Speaker 7: I was in a.

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Speaker 5: Courtroom in Cincinnati about a month ago, and there was

685
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Speaker 5: there was somebody got in front of the magistrate and

686
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Speaker 5: he was I don't know, menacing or something. He says, now, okay,

687
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Speaker 5: I need you to come back. Well wait a minute,

688
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 5: wait a minute. You've you've you've missed. You've missed court

689
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Speaker 5: sixty three times. And I sat there and talked to myself.

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Speaker 1: What's the thing.

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Speaker 5: He's like, sixty three times, Scott, he did not show

692
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Speaker 5: up for court with zero ramifications. And he goes, well,

693
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Speaker 5: how do I know you'll show up this time and

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Speaker 5: it won't be sixty four?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I promise you will go again.

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Speaker 5: Let him go again sixty three times? I about. We

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Speaker 5: all kind of looked at each other, you know, in

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Speaker 5: the courtroom. I'm like, did he send sixteen? And oh?

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Speaker 5: He argued? He's like, no, no, you're honor. That's it's

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Speaker 5: only twenty three.

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Speaker 7: He said.

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Speaker 3: You know, we really got to go to the three

703
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Speaker 3: strikes in your eye. It's like you know when you

704
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Speaker 3: cut an ankle, monitor off. It's okay, we'll get him

705
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Speaker 3: when we get a chance. No, that should be that

706
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Speaker 3: should be brought up immediately, go hey, you know what,

707
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Speaker 3: we push you to the front of the list. We're

708
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Speaker 3: gonna come get We're gonna come snatch you up because

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Speaker 3: you're not doing something legally. You're cutting the ankle Monder

710
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Speaker 3: off to go commit a crime. No one's cutting it

711
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Speaker 3: off and then going oh God, I'm gonna go to

712
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Speaker 3: UDF and get a get a Sunday. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 3: to cutting it off because.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to church. Don't You're gonna go

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Speaker 1: out and shoot somebody.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Brett Bewell Man, I appreciate the call of five one, three, seven, four, nine,

717
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Speaker 3: seven thousand. Uh, I'm the Brian Tilam thing Tony, what's up?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Uh, just just clarify Scott the the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: Ten years ago, a parishioner goes into Brian's office. Heed's

720
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Speaker 6: an award on Brian's desk, ask about it. Brian picks

721
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Speaker 6: up the award, does something inappropriate with the ward, and

722
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Speaker 6: the parishioner reports him, Okay, they have an investigation. The

723
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Speaker 6: parishioner says they're satisfied with the investigation, they admonish Brian.

724
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Speaker 6: And now same parishioner comes in a year later and

725
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Speaker 6: or two years later and brings this up again. There's

726
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Speaker 6: no new evidence, no new nothing, and now they're bringing

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Speaker 6: uh independent counsel in.

728
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Speaker 3: I wonder why we're bringing that, Why this is an

729
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Speaker 3: issue now when a second time for the people who

730
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Speaker 3: are happy with the outcome the first time. I don't

731
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Speaker 3: know if it's tied to the Oakley, but you know,

732
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Speaker 3: if he's doing I don't know if the statue is

733
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Speaker 3: in Inny or an Audi he was in because it's

734
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Speaker 3: gonna be a It's going to be a crotch joke,

735
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Speaker 3: is what it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's all a.

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Speaker 3: Physical humwhere you're kind of restricted in what you can

738
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Speaker 3: do with there's only somebody gags you can do. But

739
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Speaker 3: you know, if it looked phallic or it looked otherwise. Yeah,

740
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Speaker 3: but you know again it's okay, we investigated, you probably

741
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Speaker 3: shouldn't do that. God that I'm a pastor, I should

742
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Speaker 3: be better at that kind of stuff. Okay, got it.

743
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Speaker 3: That seems to be enough for most people, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think the whole thing is way have a proportion.

745
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Speaker 1: I forget how it was.

746
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Speaker 3: It was athletes who did this for a while, and

747
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Speaker 3: it hasn't happened well, but like they'll go back. People

748
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Speaker 3: go back and they'll sign an athlete somebody to sign

749
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Speaker 3: up a contract, or they'll get drafted, and then they'll

750
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Speaker 3: go find something on Twitter that they wrote when they

751
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Speaker 3: were twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: You know, I got there's a statute of limitations.

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Speaker 6: Here, right, yeah, I mean, and not only the statue

754
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Speaker 6: of limitations, but it's already been investigated, and the parishioner

755
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Speaker 6: was satisfied two years ago, and now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: the same parishioner is not satisfied.

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Speaker 3: But how about this, Go find a new church. People

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Speaker 3: do it all the time. There's like five thousand deities

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Speaker 3: out there. Pick another one, go to a different church,

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Speaker 3: go to different bread, go to it. And there's plenty

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Speaker 3: of strip mall churches out there if you're gonna pick

762
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Speaker 3: those kind of things. Like why we were visiting this

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Speaker 3: little I have no idea, And maybe there's a lot

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Speaker 3: more there than we know at this point that could

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Speaker 3: very well be going on, but yeah, it just seems

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Speaker 3: punitive at this point. All Right, we got a news

767
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Speaker 3: update in here. Momentarily the latest on the shooting I

768
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Speaker 3: just had. I'll be on at nine. If you miss

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Speaker 3: that on the podcast, be the iHeartRadio app. Of course,

770
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Speaker 3: take that wherever you go, and we're portable to spring

771
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: your earbuds or reasonable facsimile of thereof, and you take

772
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Speaker 3: us wherever you go. Of course, the latest on a

773
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Speaker 3: RAN will get you updated as well. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 3: President Trump will speak at eleven o'clock this morning eleven

775
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Speaker 3: am for a press conference and a speech from President Trump.

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Speaker 3: Will care that live here on the Nation station seven

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Speaker 3: hundred W DOWD Cincinnati. I want to be an American

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Speaker 3: Indio got flown on seven hundred w W. So much

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Speaker 3: going on mass shooting in Cincinnati on early Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: We also have the war in Iran right now.

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Speaker 3: The very latest three F fifteen shot down by Kuwaiti

782
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Speaker 3: friendly fire. All kroumbers rescued there. Unfortunately, three service members

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Speaker 3: are killed five wounded in attacks on US basis. Pete

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Speaker 3: Hegseth SEC Defense was just talking earlier this morning.

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Speaker 1: You heard their news.

786
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Speaker 3: US and Israeli forces launch massive strikes in Iran Saturday morning.

787
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Speaker 3: It's Operation Epic Fury and here we go again. One

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Speaker 3: of the guys coming out in support of this, surprisingly

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Speaker 3: as a Democrat, is Representative Greg Lansman on the show, Congressman, welcome,

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Speaker 3: how are you. I'm good, I'm doing fine. Too much

791
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Speaker 3: news and too much bad news at that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, I was young enough to remember seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: Uh didn't know you because I was a kid, but

794
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Speaker 3: I remember hearing about that, going wow, we got hostages

795
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Speaker 3: in the embassy. And here we are now in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six and Iran Supreme Leader Ayatola Kamanian was killed

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Speaker 3: and a bunch of other top offishes as well, and

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Speaker 3: so we have regime change underway and Iran, which generally

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Speaker 3: are bad at you said you believe for decades the

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Speaker 3: region would have peace without regime. This regime toppling the

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Speaker 3: past administrations, including once you support it, chose not to

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Speaker 3: act militarily, and you're supporting this. So what change and

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Speaker 3: why is now the right moment?

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Speaker 7: Greg Landsman, I've always thought that you had to stand

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Speaker 7: up to Iran. Iran has caused enormous mayhem, chaos, violence, death.

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Speaker 7: You know, Kamania is responsible for more death than been

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Speaker 7: ladden by you know, tax right, and at some point

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Speaker 7: you have to stand up to this regime and say

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Speaker 7: enough enough the mayhem and the bloodshed can't continue, and

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Speaker 7: we want peace. We want a Middle East. And you're

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Speaker 7: seeing the golf other golf states jumping in. They want

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Speaker 7: in Middle East without war, out this violence, without this chaos,

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Speaker 7: without this mayhem mayhem, which has proved impossible with this regime.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're the largest sponsor of state terrorism and so

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Speaker 3: if you cut that hat off, that's the idea here.

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Speaker 3: They're in chaos right now. But you called this, I

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Speaker 3: think you said this was the best outcome for national security.

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Speaker 3: But the FBI is now elevated terrorism alert for US

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Speaker 3: and Iranian proxies are targeting American bases across the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: So how's that a good outcome for.

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Speaker 7: Security because it will hopefully lead to peace in the region.

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Speaker 7: And ultimately when this dies down, you know, you won't

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Speaker 7: see this ongoing threat. You know, at some point, again,

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Speaker 7: you had to deal with this, and you know, for

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Speaker 7: too long, you know, there has been an attempt to

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Speaker 7: just sort of contain the regime, which has not worked.

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Speaker 7: And we've seen what they've done in Lebanon with Hesbela

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Speaker 7: just up you know, completely upended that country and its

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Speaker 7: ability to govern itself. You've seen what they've done in

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Speaker 7: Gaza with moss and and and the awful war it started. Uh.

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Speaker 7: And you know uh Yemen. I mean, the number of

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Speaker 7: lags lost, you know, because of the Hutines and what

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Speaker 7: Iran's done there is staggering. And then they killed you know, thousands,

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Speaker 7: tens of thousands of their own people during you know,

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Speaker 7: the protests a couple of weeks ago, right, And so

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Speaker 7: my hope and what I support, to be very clear,

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Speaker 7: is very targeted strikes on Iranian military assets. So get

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Speaker 7: rid of their you know, their their their missiles, the rockets,

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Speaker 7: any attempt at achieving a nuke uh and uh and

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Speaker 7: you know the high command. Uh. However, if this is

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Speaker 7: going to be a protracted war, you know, regime change

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Speaker 7: in in the sense that you send boots on the

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Speaker 7: ground is not a good idea. And my hope is

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Speaker 7: that the administration is not doing that, it's not preparing

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Speaker 7: to do that. That Ultimately, this is on the Iranian

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Speaker 7: people to sort out. And there's an inside game obviously

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Speaker 7: with the Supreme leader gone, to sort out who's going

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Speaker 7: to run the country. That could lead to somebody who

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Speaker 7: will work with the world. The IATOTA refused to work

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Speaker 7: with the world. Now they're diminished or depleted or destroyed

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Speaker 7: military capabilities does mean that the chaos blend that mayhem

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Speaker 7: should end. That's what I support, a protracted military operation.

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Speaker 7: The President would need to come to the United States Congress,

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Speaker 7: make his case and get the support, get the funding.

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Speaker 7: I wish he's not done yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Congressman Greg Landsman from Washington this morning on seven hundred

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Speaker 3: WLW with the latest on what's happening with Iran. He

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Speaker 3: is backing it, breaking with a lot of Democrats on this.

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Speaker 3: Your colleagues on the left as well as MAGA Republicans

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Speaker 3: too are against this thing. And you know we mentioned

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Speaker 3: is this the right moment? I would say, you know,

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Speaker 3: student uprising and the level of people number killed and

864
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: incarcerated because of that uprising, as well as the fact

865
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: that you know, let's face it, there's few and few

866
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: people alive today that remember what life was like in

867
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: Iran pre nineteen seventy nine. And I think there's an

868
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: opportunity here that's waning. As opposed to just looking at

869
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: something in the history book, you have people said no,

870
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: it was much better. We're democratized, women were going to

871
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: university and we're free. And that's what the glory days

872
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: were like. And we've seen generations that were just raised

873
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: on oppression, and so I think in that context with

874
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: the student uprising, I really think that that was the

875
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: catalyst for this to happen.

876
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 7: Agree, Yeah, I mean, you know the fact that they

877
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 7: went and it wasn't just a crackdown. They murdered, Yes,

878
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 7: you know, tens of thousands of people in the works

879
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 7: of a couple days. And you know, if the world

880
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 7: justs back and says we're not going to do anything,

881
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 7: We're gonna We're gonna let them continue to not just oppressed,

882
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 7: but murder their own people and fun terrorism all over

883
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 7: the region, that's the problem. I mean, what does that

884
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 7: say about us? Yes, this is a very hard decision.

885
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 7: This is uh, you know, a very difficult moment, and

886
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 7: and people are are nervous, scared, frustrated. I get that.

887
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 7: I do think though, that you you have to uh

888
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 7: take these moments and and do what you think is best.

889
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 7: And in this case, I think the military and I

890
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 7: trust the generals, I trust our allies are saying this

891
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 7: is a moment to end the the the chaos of

892
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 7: this regime. And uh, you know, I I hope that

893
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 7: is what ultimately happens. I would like to understand to

894
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 7: be clear what the full plan is. We get a

895
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 7: briefing classify briefing by partisan briefing on Tuesday. That will

896
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 7: be very important. And uh, and I think the administration

897
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 7: the present needs to say this is what will happen now. Uh,

898
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 7: it has not been as clear as it needs to

899
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 7: be that in fact, what we're doing is destroying their

900
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 7: ability to destroy right there. We're going after the bombs

901
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 7: and the missiles and and and they are military infrastructure. Uh.

902
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 7: And here's how we believe this will end. That is

903
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 7: that is something that the American people need to hear.

904
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 7: The United States Congress needs to hear and and and

905
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 7: Congress does have a a big role. We declare war,

906
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 7: we have to fund it. And so if this is

907
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 7: anything more than targeted military strikes, they have to come

908
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 7: to the United stund.

909
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: Greig Glenn, do you think that Trump and the administration

910
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: had the constitutional authority to do just that without getting

911
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: a war declaration?

912
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, so the laws as that you know, the administration,

913
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 7: the president can can engage for up to sixty days

914
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 7: without you know, before getting a vote on Congress. If

915
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 7: it goes beyond that, he needs a vote, and I

916
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 7: agree with that. You know, they can't, they can't operate

917
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 7: outside the constitution. We are a constitutional democracy and and

918
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 7: you know, going after this repressive, you know, destructive, violent

919
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 7: regime is I think the right move. Working within the

920
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 7: constitutional democracy and going to Congress is also the right call.

921
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 7: I would do that if it were me, I would

922
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 7: be in front of Congress making the case, making the

923
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 7: case united the American people and getting the support I need.

924
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 7: I would be doing both. He needs to do both.

925
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: Should we have done that one in Venezuela. I don't

926
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: think most people care about that now in hindsight too

927
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: or is that different?

928
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 7: You know, Venezuela is uh I thought a award choice.

929
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 7: I don't think this is a ward choice, I think

930
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 7: or military action of choice, right, you know, I know

931
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 7: he wanted to get a dureau he got Maduro. It

932
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 7: is an incredible thing what the military did. There's no question,

933
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 7: but nobody thought Venezuela was posing a threat to the

934
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 7: United States of America militarily. There was obviously drugs and

935
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 7: other things that needed to be dealt with, and and

936
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 7: you know, I am all about you know, getting the

937
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 7: Sentinel and all this stuff out of the country. Iran

938
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 7: has obviously presented a grave threat to the region and

939
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 7: to the world for decades. There's no question about that.

940
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 7: And no one's arguing that this is not this is

941
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 7: not something that you know, that we could continue to avoid.

942
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 7: But I thought the the you know, going after Venezuela

943
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 7: the way he did was not the right move, right.

944
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: You know, do you think what I'll giving them too

945
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: much credit here, Greg Lansman, do you think it was

946
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: pre contextual in that it's like, well, if we get

947
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: to Venezuela, get Maduro out of part of that, that helps.

948
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: But also, we have a supply of oil now, and

949
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: we're bringing the oil over, and now we go in

950
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: week top we tackle I ran and it just so

951
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 3: happens this is months after we've got a steady supply

952
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: of oil coming in the United States for Venezuela, because

953
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: we know the straight of horror moves is going to

954
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: be closed off and gas prices are going to go out.

955
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 6: Now.

956
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if they offset each other or what

957
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: the you know, I'm not smart enough to be able

958
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 3: to figure that out. But if you believe in pre

959
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 3: contextual things and plans and plots and conspiracies, those two

960
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 3: things sure fit together.

961
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 7: I do believe that the Venezuela was but oil, which

962
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 7: I don't like and most Americans don't like don't go

963
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 7: to work for oil. I do not believe that one

964
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 7: was done to set up the other. I think Iran

965
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 7: has been a big question for every president as to

966
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 7: whether or not you can and negotiating and and and

967
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 7: does diplomacy work or do you have to finally, uh,

968
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 7: you know, fight back. And I believe Iran responds to strength.

969
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 7: You know that they they they they they don't want

970
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 7: what's happening right now.

971
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

972
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 7: They want to continue to sort of I think, aff

973
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 7: scape and and and build out their capacity to continue

974
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 7: to terrorize the region and ultimately go after the United States.

975
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 7: That's their ga Uh yeah, you know, So they they

976
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 7: they're they're not you know, uh, they may be shady

977
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 7: about how they build their stuff, but they're not, uh

978
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 7: you know, shady about what they're intented. They're intended to

979
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 7: kill us. So look, I I think this is uh,

980
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: you know, the right move in the sense that you know,

981
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 7: we're finally standing up to this brutal regime and the

982
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 7: goal has to be not about anything other than peace.

983
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 7: I really do believe that like this is this is

984
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 7: a moment in history where the Middle East could fundamentally

985
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 7: be transformed. And you look at Saudi Arabia and Bahrain

986
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 7: and the UAE and others, and they're saying, look, we're

987
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 7: trying to participate in the world. We're trying to bring

988
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 7: the world here. We can't have you know, war and

989
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 7: chaos and violence and terrorism. And we're saying, yeah, we agree,

990
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 7: we want to be part of a renewed, transformed Middle East.

991
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 3: In that regard, there's no transition plan here, there's no

992
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: nation building framework. You know, we'd be headed. We took

993
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: the head off the beast, but our diplomatic relations with

994
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: Iran have not been existing since what nineteen eighty? All right,

995
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 3: so we do this for a few weeks, the bomb

996
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 3: stopped falling. We're really bad at nation building, We're really

997
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: bad at regime change. Greg, how does that change this summary?

998
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: And does it?

999
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 7: Well, that's yeah, and that would change my position. I

1000
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 7: mean that that was never anything I've supported. I mean,

1001
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 7: I you know, the for me is, you know, continue

1002
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 7: to undermine its ability to cause violence and mayhem and

1003
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 7: and and and war. Right, so go after, you know,

1004
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 7: to completely destroy their ability to uh, you know, to

1005
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 7: mess with others in the region. I mean, cut off

1006
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 7: their lines to these terrace networks. Uh, destroyed the ballistic missiles,

1007
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 7: their their their capabilities around a nuke, et cetera. And

1008
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 7: you know, now that the aetola is gone, there is

1009
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 7: a there is a mechanism within the you know, Iranian

1010
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 7: regime to elect a new supreme leader. It's it's three

1011
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 7: it's three people, as I understand it, who now convene

1012
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 7: the council and they will decide. Now what happens there, uh,

1013
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 7: you know, could lead to some change where we now

1014
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 7: have of somebody in charge that we can work with.

1015
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 7: You are right that putting troops on the ground and

1016
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 7: and and doing nation building is a mistake that I

1017
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 7: would never support. Continuing to go after these military assets

1018
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 7: until they're gone, uh and then pulling back and seeing

1019
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 7: if we have a chance at peace, to me, is

1020
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 7: the right the right move.

1021
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: Okay, But some of the insiders say, well, what the

1022
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: regime is going to look like is far worse than

1023
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: we have with the COMNI because in that environment we

1024
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: have totalitarianism. Uh, it's all the generals, it's all the military,

1025
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: the autocrats. They take over power, and you wind up

1026
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: with a worse leadership role in Iran than you did

1027
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: before because it's all going to be about getting back

1028
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: to the United States and Israel and all the nations

1029
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: that that led the war in Iran. That's the danger there.

1030
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: We've seen it before, we'll see it again, probably Afghanistan,

1031
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: the latest version of that.

1032
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 7: M Yeah, I don't know if we'll see it here.

1033
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 7: You know, the fact is that uh, you know, they

1034
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 7: will have very little hopefully at the end of this

1035
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 7: uh limited operation. Uh. And it's hard to imagine anyone

1036
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 7: being worse than in the ietolah than a theocracy. This

1037
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 7: is a This is a guy that believes that he

1038
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 7: is uh believed that he was sent by God to

1039
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 7: destroy those who were were not like him. And so

1040
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 7: it doesn't get much more dangerous than that.

1041
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: Greg Landsman, your face and voters in the district. Polling

1042
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: is pretty broad, and we're also very skeptical on military

1043
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: intervention at this thing. There's a political consequence there for you,

1044
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: and and also point out that oil prices presumably, Well

1045
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: they're going to go up here. We don't know how high,

1046
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: but they are going up starting today probably if not

1047
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: sooner it did, And and people already you know stretched.

1048
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: Then is there fear that politically speaking, they turn around

1049
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: to blame Trump, but they also blame you, going, well,

1050
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: you supported the war and now I've got to pay

1051
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: for four dollars a gallon plus?

1052
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: Is there an implication there?

1053
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 6: There may be.

1054
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 7: I mean I think that you know, you you've got

1055
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 7: to always do what you think is right as Cornyes,

1056
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 7: that may sound. I do believe like if you believe

1057
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 7: that something is right, you got to say it and

1058
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 7: you got to act on it, period, regardless of the

1059
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 7: consequences and politically, and so you know, I think in

1060
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 7: the end, because this is not the first time I've

1061
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 7: I've sort of bucked the party or I've done, you know,

1062
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 7: something that wasn't necessarily at first, it's something people agreed with.

1063
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 7: People do appreciate not everyone, but but but a lot

1064
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 7: of people do appreciate the fact that they can trust

1065
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 7: that that that I'm leading with convictions, that I'm I'm

1066
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 7: doing what I believe is right, that I'm not playing

1067
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 7: politics and in this day and age, that's a rarity.

1068
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 7: I think people do like the fact that you know, hey,

1069
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 7: this is an independent guy who does does what he

1070
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 7: thinks he thinks is right, and takes tough positions. He takes,

1071
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 7: you know, he makes the tough calls like that's leadership,

1072
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 7: and uh, you know, I think ultimately that's where folks

1073
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 7: will be. But you know, I can't. I can't work

1074
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 7: through that calculation in something like this. It's either you know,

1075
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 7: if it's something I would have done, I would have

1076
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 7: done targeted strength. I would have intervened and said enough

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Speaker 7: is enough. Now he's going to lose me, to be clear,

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Speaker 7: that's fun. He's gonna lose me if he keeps if

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00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 7: he keeps at this and and and continues to talk

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00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 7: about regime change and continues to do so without Congress,

1081
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 7: he will lose me. And and quite frankly, you know,

1082
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 7: I don't trust Trump. I don't. I don't trust him. However,

1083
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 7: I trust the general rules, uh, and and I trust

1084
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 7: our military, and I trust our allies. And so you know,

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00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 7: my hope is that this is limited, that they go

1086
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Speaker 7: in you know, over the course of several days, hopefully

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00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 7: not weeks. Days and they they destroy the regime's ability

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00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 7: to continue to destroy lives. Yeah, that's what that's what

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Speaker 7: I want.

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Speaker 1: That's the hope there.

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Speaker 3: What real quick, what role does Congress have in a

1092
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Speaker 3: new regime there or what what should the framework be

1093
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 3: for you guys in the legislature.

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00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 7: Well, the United States Congress have to be involved in this.

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00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 7: You know, I was glad that the administration resumed this,

1096
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 7: you know the process of informing congressional leaders, Democrats and Republicans.

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00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 7: They did not do that with the Venezuela. Their argument

1098
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Speaker 7: was it was it was so, you know, top secret,

1099
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 7: and they thought that somebody would lead and blah blah,

1100
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 7: blah blah. This is not the same thing. They have

1101
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 7: to stay fully engaged with us. I'm glad that there

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Speaker 7: is a full congressional classified briefing on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And I do think Congress has to send a message

1105
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 7: to the president, Look, you have got to work with us.

1106
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 7: You have got to come here and and participate in

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00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 7: this constitutional democracy which says we make this call too.

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Speaker 7: So you know, there is this war Powers resolution. You know,

1109
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 7: on one hand, it sends the message, hey, you got

1110
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 7: to work with us. On the other hand, it says

1111
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 7: you know it says, look, you got to you know, yes,

1112
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Speaker 7: you got to pull out the asset out of the region.

1113
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 7: I think that's a mistake, but I do think sending

1114
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 7: that message you have to get a yes from us

1115
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Speaker 7: is very important.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: He is a Congressman, Greg Landsman from here in Cincinnati,

1118
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: waiting to get word from the White House at some

1119
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Speaker 3: point and their role in regime change. And this will

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Speaker 3: continue and hopefully you know, this is maybe one we

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Speaker 3: get right. I'm a little leary. I'm a little nervous

1122
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: about Regie without a plan, and we don't have a

1123
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Speaker 3: plan right now. You get three. I think a body

1124
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Speaker 3: of three individual decide who the new Supreme leader is.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that won't matter. Greg, all the best, Thanks again,

1126
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: be well, Thanks running late as always. Here we'll get

1127
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Speaker 3: a news update in. We'll switch it up. Julie H's here.

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Speaker 3: It's Mental Health Monday. Next on the show, talk about

1129
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Speaker 3: the death of Romance. The debt is Romance Dead. We'll

1130
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: discuss coming up on seven hundred.

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Speaker 8: W Everyone needs help every now on then, and she's

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00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 8: here to help us get our heads right. This is

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Speaker 8: Mental Health Monday with mental health expert Julie Hattershire with.

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Speaker 1: What's going on in Iran and of course the mass shooting.

1135
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: With the President speaking by the way at eleven o'clock

1136
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: this morning, we have it for you live here on

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00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: the Nation station seven hundred w do. But he's part

1138
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: of a Medal of Honor ceremony. Will be offer some

1139
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: words about what's happening the action Iran right now. We

1140
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: certainly need a mental health break now more than ever.

1141
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 3: Joining the show, licensed mental health therapist Julie Hattershare Mental

1142
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: health Monday in the Scotsland Show.

1143
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: How are you?

1144
00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 5: Uh?

1145
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 3: Oh uh oh, we got a bad connection here stand

1146
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 3: by there we go, there we go, there we go.

1147
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: You charge your earbuds or what you forgot to do that?

1148
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm actually holding my phone so I

1149
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: don't know.

1150
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: What the deal with I don't know either. First of all, welcome.

1151
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: Secondly, something like thirty seven percent of single adults under

1152
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 3: the age of thirty report no interest in dating, no

1153
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: interest whatsoever for almost four and ten of young people

1154
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: under thirty. And we need those people because if you're

1155
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: a grandma or a grandpa or a mom or dad,

1156
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: you nag them into having children. Of course, that is

1157
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: an age, old adage, and we also need them to

1158
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: get together, fornicate and produce young taxpayers to keep our

1159
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: old asses going.

1160
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Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing. What is in it for me?

1161
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: So if there's no romance, there's no taxes. Does that

1162
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: make sense?

1163
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfectly, that's a great that's exactly threw there.

1164
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Speaker 1: That's what we need. We need babies, and we need taxperts.

1165
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: Now and workers to pay our taxes.

1166
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Speaker 3: I know, well, a lot of people, well I know

1167
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: a lot of people under thirty the same thing that

1168
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: they're right. It's like, yeah, you know, we might connect

1169
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: down on a half or something like that, but you know,

1170
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: largely it's like women hate men and men hate women

1171
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: at this point.

1172
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Speaker 1: It's interesting.

1173
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big part of what's going on. The

1174
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: younger generation is pretty polarized around sort of the culture

1175
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: in our world right now, the politics, but also what

1176
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: men's roles should be, what women's roles should be. And

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Speaker 2: it's really surprising the numbers. So I did a little

1178
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: research in baby boomers, seventy eight percent of them had

1179
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: a boyfriend or a girlfriend.

1180
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Speaker 7: In high school.

1181
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Speaker 2: For Gen X, seventy six percent had a boyfriend or

1182
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: girl's friend in high school for gen Z only fifty

1183
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: six percent did. That's a significant drop. And part of

1184
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: the problem is is in high school and early adulthood

1185
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: that's when you learn your relationship skills, so that by

1186
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: the time you find the person that you want to

1187
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: pair off with long term, you kind of know what

1188
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: you're doing, and if you don't, things often don't go well.

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Speaker 7: So this is this is a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it may be the root of this

1191
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: thing is certainly not always the cause, but the root

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Speaker 3: of it, July would be the reliance on social media

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 3: to socialize. Is that you're looking at a screen and

1194
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Speaker 3: you can't at some point that does not translate to

1195
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: human interaction.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do think that's a big part of it

1197
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: is so many of our interactions now are online. And

1198
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Speaker 2: it's not just social media, it's you know, I can

1199
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Speaker 2: chat with my doctor, I don't actually have to go in.

1200
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: You can order a pizza online without actually having to

1201
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: speak to a person. So the interpersonal conversational skills seem

1202
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: to be falling by the wayside in younger and younger

1203
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: generations because they don't have to actually talk to people.

1204
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: So many classes are online, line my son's getting a

1205
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: master's degree largely online. He doesn't even really have to

1206
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: interact with people except via his screen. So so many

1207
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: of these things are growing digital and people are losing

1208
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Speaker 2: the skill set of actually having conversations, meeting people, figuring

1209
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: out how to interact socially, hanging out with their friends,

1210
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: and finding a person they find attractive in another.

1211
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Speaker 7: Group and going up and approaching them.

1212
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Speaker 2: All those things that we did when we were kids.

1213
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Speaker 2: The younger people today.

1214
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Speaker 1: Are not able to do.

1215
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Speaker 3: And what the yeah, I mean the advent of digital

1216
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: technology it makes it and I throw AI in there

1217
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: as well, is like you look at it, goinga I,

1218
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: you know, do I really need to socialize outside of

1219
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: the digital world because I can get pretty much anything,

1220
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 3: But you do need human context. As a licensed mental

1221
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 3: health therapist, there's a need there, right, you have to

1222
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 3: have human interaction.

1223
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: You have to. We do. We have to have human interaction.

1224
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: We are designed to be touched, so we have to

1225
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: have physical touch in order to thrive. Babies who aren't

1226
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: touched physically, babies and orphanages in third world countries or

1227
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: the Eastern Block, back when that was a really big deal,

1228
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: weren't touched and they didn't thrive. And that is a

1229
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: piece of what we need. We need face to face interaction,

1230
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: we need partnership, we need friendship, we need human connection.

1231
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: And not all of that has to be with your

1232
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: long term mate or with a.

1233
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 7: Boyfriend or a girlfriend, but some.

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01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: Of that needs to be because we are designed to

1235
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: be communal and we.

1236
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: Are designed to pair off.

1237
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: That's what we're wired for.

1238
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Speaker 1: This is the most.

1239
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: This is the most anxious generation we've ever had in America.

1240
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 3: Question that also makes it that almost it harder to

1241
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 3: get a relationship right. So it's like this, it's a

1242
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: self fulfilling prophecy.

1243
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're anxious, and they're not terribly resilient, and so

1244
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: a setback or a bounce back, or some friction between

1245
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: one another really causes them a higher level of distress

1246
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: than in generations before. So they don't want to and

1247
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm using air quotes here settle for someone, and the

1248
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: options are so seemingly limitless on social media and dating

1249
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: apps and such that it's very easy for them to

1250
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: just keep swiping and looking for the perfect person who

1251
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: will never cause them any distress, who will never disagree

1252
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: with them, who will never annoy them, and as we know,

1253
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: having been in relationships for a long time, it's not

1254
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 2: like that. That's just not realistic, no question, But that's

1255
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: their version of it. Yeah, And social society creates.

1256
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: Problems and it doesn't.

1257
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: And it drives a preference for dating apps, right, because

1258
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: that's a part of a digital filter. But that also

1259
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: carries its own harm.

1260
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Speaker 2: Well, it carries its own harm because as anybody who's

1261
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: ever been on a dating app will tell you, you

1262
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: carefully curate your profile, just like you do on social media,

1263
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: and it shows the aspects of you that you think

1264
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: would be most attractive to someone you would want to attract.

1265
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: But that's not all of you. And eventually you have

1266
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: to get off the app and meet at some point

1267
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: in time if you're going to take things any further.

1268
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: And I can't tell you the number of times my

1269
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: kids are in their thirties, I can't tell you the

1270
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: number of times that they've been in conversation with someone

1271
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: and then that person just ghosts and flakes out. And

1272
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: my guess is that they have done that too. I'm

1273
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 2: not going to say they haven't, but to actually get

1274
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: to the point where you meet someone and engage in

1275
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: conversation and do things together and spend time together. Sometimes

1276
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: that feels overwhelming, and so there are a lot of

1277
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: the younger generation who are talking on dating apps but

1278
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 2: not actually meeting people in person to do anything. And

1279
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: as time goes on and you continue down that path,

1280
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: it becomes more and more overwhelming to think about doing

1281
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: that because you haven't developed a skill set in your

1282
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: younger years to be able to operationalize that as you age.

1283
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: Is it more about self consciousness, embarrassment? Is it overthinking it?

1284
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: Is it the paradox of choice where you're thinking that

1285
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 3: no one is going to be good enough because you

1286
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: meet people on an app but it doesn't work out.

1287
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: But you do that in real life, you probably don't

1288
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: keep score that way, but in an app, it's like,

1289
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 3: oh man, I'm zero for thirty here now and I

1290
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Speaker 3: just can't meet the and you just go, man, maybe

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Speaker 3: there's just no one's out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving up on it. Is that kind of what's happening?

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Speaker 2: To tell you, that's a big piece of it is.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that I hear from a lot

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Speaker 2: of my clients and a lot of my friends who

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Speaker 2: are single, there are no good people out there. The

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Speaker 2: men say there are no good women. The women say

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Speaker 2: there are no good men. The reality is that's not true.

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Speaker 2: There are plenty of good people out there. But what

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Speaker 2: is I think true, is that there's nobody who's ideal

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Speaker 2: and who's perfect and who might measure up to what

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Speaker 2: we have.

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Speaker 7: In our minds that we're looking for.

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Speaker 2: And when we have so many potentially perfect options available

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Speaker 2: to us at the swipe, it's really easy to keep

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Speaker 2: looking for that versus really investing in a flawed, fragile

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Speaker 2: human in front of you.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, Julie Hatters share our license mental health therapist.

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Speaker 3: It's Metal Health Monday on the Scott's lun Show, seven

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Speaker 3: hundred WW ten minutes roughly from now, give or take

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Speaker 3: President Trump's going to speak, we'll carry that live for you.

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Speaker 3: Relative to Iran, right now, we're talking about gen z

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Speaker 3: ors younger people under thirty almost four and ten single

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Speaker 3: adults in that cohort report no interest in dating whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: And that's just the ones that stop dating. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there's ones on the brink going well. I kind of

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Speaker 3: dabble in a bit of any good and there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of reasons for that. We're chopping it up this

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Speaker 3: morning with Julie on seven hundred WLW. You think part

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Speaker 3: of this is also perfectionism because the anxiety loves are

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Speaker 3: high because we demand kids to be perfeme know the

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Speaker 3: mistakes we made, the dumb stuff we did't were kids

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Speaker 3: are not tolerated anymore by their parents, and so there's

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Speaker 3: a lot more pressures, more academic pressure, there's so Sovidre's

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Speaker 3: dating pressure. All this coming to a head right there.

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Speaker 3: But is this part of our perfectionist culture.

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Speaker 2: I think that's partly yes. And you mentioned parents, and

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Speaker 2: I think parents have a huge role to play in

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Speaker 2: this because I think that parents now of younger children.

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Speaker 6: Are so.

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Speaker 2: So hovering and so overly supervisory of their kids, and

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Speaker 2: dating and connecting in that way doesn't happen under parental supervision.

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Speaker 2: But when kids are so overscheduled, they have every last

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Speaker 2: minute of their day accounted for, they don't really have

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to go and hang out and find someone

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Speaker 2: you find attractive at the movie theater and go up

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Speaker 2: and talk to them. You don't have the same opportunity

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Speaker 2: to do that as we did when we were kids.

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Speaker 2: And on the one hand, as a parent, I understand

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Speaker 2: that you want your children's lives to be productive and

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Speaker 2: you want to set them up for success. But what

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Speaker 2: I think people miss is that the flirting and the

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Speaker 2: dating that you do in your teenage and your young

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Speaker 2: adult years, high school, college and shortly after is the

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Speaker 2: stuff that gives you the skills, and gives you the experience,

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Speaker 2: and gives you the confidence, and helps you know what

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Speaker 2: you're looking for in a partner, who you like and

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Speaker 2: who you don't like, qualities and characteristics appeal to you,

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Speaker 2: and which ones don't, so that when you are serious

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Speaker 2: about looking for your lifelong partner, you have a database

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Speaker 2: of information. You have experience, you have confidence, you know

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Speaker 2: what you bring to the table, you know what you're

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Speaker 2: looking for from somebody else, and you're not trying to

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Speaker 2: figure all of that out when the stakes are really high,

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Speaker 2: when you're in your late twenties and thirties and you're

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Speaker 2: looking at wanting to have children, and for women, the

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Speaker 2: biological clocktics more than for men, So you figure this

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Speaker 2: out earlier on right, and then by the time you

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Speaker 2: get to that age, you know what you're looking for and.

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Speaker 7: What you bring to the table.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Julie, when you talk to younger people like this

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Speaker 3: is clients and we know there's this I don't know

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Speaker 3: that this growing hostility in the world. You know it's

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Speaker 3: left and right and up and everyone's fighting with everybody.

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Speaker 3: That there's hostility between the saxes, right, men and women,

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Speaker 3: not just in couples. We see that online rhetoric has

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Speaker 3: played a lot of this. We have the anti patriarchy crowd, right.

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Speaker 3: We also have the red pill crowd too as well.

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Speaker 3: When you're in that circle, is that really just story

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Speaker 3: aring how you see potential partners?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. It. It sets the expectation for what

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Speaker 2: you're looking for. So in the last decade plus, women

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Speaker 2: have tended to become much more liberal than their same

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Speaker 2: age male counterparts have, and men have tended to become

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Speaker 2: much more conservative than their same age female counterparts have.

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Speaker 2: And not only in terms of politics, but in terms

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Speaker 2: of what you view men's and women's roles in relationships

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Speaker 2: as being what you're looking for from a potential mate.

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Speaker 2: And obviously we're talking about heterosexual here, but what men

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Speaker 2: are looking for from women and what women are looking

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Speaker 2: for from men is becoming increasingly.

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Speaker 7: Polarized as well.

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Speaker 2: And of course you are if you are part of

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Speaker 2: the you know, with the Epstein files and all of

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Speaker 2: the men, not all men, but it's always a man

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Speaker 2: rhetoric out there. Women become very very cautious around them,

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Speaker 2: and then the men have the trad wife kind of

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Speaker 2: rhetoric out there, the red till crowd as you call it.

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Speaker 2: They become very cautious around women. Women are only after

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Speaker 2: one thing. Men are only after one thing. And it's

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Speaker 2: not true interpersonal relationships, but it seems to be true

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Speaker 2: in the aggregate in our culture right now that that's

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Speaker 2: what people believe.

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Speaker 3: Got it, And I'm sure therapy can help with this,

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Speaker 3: but it's pretty scared. The four and ten just simply

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Speaker 3: don't want to date. People under thirty are out of

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Speaker 3: the dating game, which is frightening. She's July Hatters here,

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Speaker 3: a licensed mental health therapist. Do you want to reach

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Speaker 3: out to her for a question and maybe future topic.

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Speaker 3: It's he Julie at Bconnected dot Care, practicing out of Clifton,

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Speaker 3: licensed mental health therapist.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again for the time, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you talk soon, beck area.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day.

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Speaker 3: We've got news on the way. The President's have to

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Speaker 3: speak in just minutes. We'll have it for you live,

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Speaker 3: talking about Iran doing a Medal of Honor ceremony. We'll

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Speaker 3: be talking about the conflict there and what to expect

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Speaker 3: to answer them some questions, and we'll cover that for

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Speaker 3: you here. When he breaks in, we will break our

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Speaker 3: programming and cover that coming up in a full news

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Speaker 3: update minutes away here on seven hundred WW Cincinnati,