1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: news Radio. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Good evening, everyone, and welcome on into a Tuesday night 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: edition at Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. Rob Brooks 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: is back. I really didn't introduce Rob appropriately last night. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: He's back from a few days off. I'm helping his family, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: a family member, get some things squared away. He didn't 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: have what you'd call a vacation, but he did have 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of a break from being in the 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: control room. So when you see him, be nice to Rob. 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: He's back back in charge tonight. All I do is 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: I just front the show. He's the guy that he's 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: the guy that makes the show work. My name is 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Dan Ray. I'm the host of the show. Here every 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Monday through Friday night from eight until midnight. We have 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: four really different and really interesting guests. Tonight, we'll talk 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: with a former NHL player who is about to be 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: inducted into the Massachusetts Hockey Hall of Fame. We'll talk 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: with a financial analyst and tell you which of the 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: states where Americans basically work the fewest work days to 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: pay for rent, food in a used car. These would 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: be the two states in which people actually live probably 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: better the best in Massachusetts, unfortunately style one of them 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: will talk also with sports reporter MLB columnist Peter Abraham 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: about the Red Sox opening day this Thursday, two days 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: less than two days for now, less than forty eight 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: hours from now in Cincinnati. First, however, we're going to talk. 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: We're getting getting close to the tick season, if we're 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: not already in the tick season. And with us is 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: doctor Sam Telford. He's a professor with the Department of 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: Infectious Disease and Global Health at the Coming School of 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: Veterinary Medicine and Tufts University. And we are going to 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: learn about something that is called alpha gal syndrome. And 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: it's not good, that is for sure, Doctor Telford, welcome 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: to night's side. This is not good news. Let's have 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: it go ahead. 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: Welcome, well, good evening. We do have a new tick 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 3: in the area. It's not really new. It was here 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: before colonial times and it's reinvaded. It's a subtropical tick, 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: the lone Star tick, and it's been found increasingly in 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 3: coastal areas in New England after invading Long Island, spreading 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: like wildfire through the nineteen nineties and two thousands and 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: it's now on Martha's vineyard, the south coast parts of 44 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: Cape Cod, and it is expanding its range. And it's 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: a very very aggressive tick, and it's linked with a 46 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: meat allergy. It's not an infection, but for some reason, 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: when it bites you, it causes your body to mount 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: a response to a sugar that is found on red meat. 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: Primates don't have this, see it as foreign, and in 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: fact deal with it for pretty much all of our 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: lives after drinking milk as a toddler. But for some reason, 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: the tick does something to make us look at it 53 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: as very very foreign and mount this food allergy. And 54 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: so it's like a regular food allergy, except that it 55 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: starts hours after you ingest red meat. So unlike something 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: like a peanut allergy where you can just sort of 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: sniff it and get hives and all of that right away. 58 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: You can wake up at midnight after eating at seven 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: and have the same allergic response. 60 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: So you would this would produce a skin response like hives. 61 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: Is that the way this allergy presents itself. 62 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: It has a wide spectrum of presentation. You can have 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: mild gut distress, severe gut distress. Those people who are 64 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: severely affected will get hives, swollen tongue. They could even 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: proceed to anaphylaxis, which is a life threatening condition. And 66 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: those people who are very, very sensitive, like most of 67 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: those with food allergies, may have to carry it EpiPen 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: or something similar. But yes, it is. It can be 69 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: very severe, but it may have been under a nose 70 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: for a long time as a mild or just sort 71 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: of moderate gut distress. 72 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: So I always thought the lone Star tick would be 73 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: associated with the Southwest, specifically the Lone Star state of Texas. 74 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: I never realized we had that type of tick up 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: in this area. 76 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they've become more common in New England, Massachusetts, 77 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: Rhode Island, Connecticut in the last ten years. The Lone 78 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: Star itself, the name refers to this white spot in 79 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: the middle of the female's body, and it's just sort 80 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: of a whimsical name, lone Star, but yes it is, 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: that's true. It is the major pest tick from now 82 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: parts of Massachusetts all the way over to Texas, through 83 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: the Midwest and down through Florida. 84 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: Now, one of the things that we know about ticks 85 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: is that they're not big unless they're obviously attached to 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: you and engorged with blood. I'm looking at a picture 87 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: of this tick out of the Boston Globe from Watch twentieth. Now, 88 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: I know it's sitting on some sort of a green leaf, 89 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: but this isn't This is a nasty looking tick. 90 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: I mean, the lone star tick is the devil spawn. 91 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: And you think deer ticks are bad deer ticks, You're right, 92 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: you cannot see them, but loan star ticks are actually 93 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: quite large, they move very fast, and they bite. Their 94 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: bite is painful, whereas most people don't even realize that 95 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: a deer tick has bitten them. Okay, so, and the 96 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: other thing is that all three life stages, the larvae nisen, 97 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: the adult, the baby, the teenager, and the adult will 98 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: attack people aggressively, unlike the deer ticks, which you know 99 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: you rarely see the larvae. The other thing that the 100 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: lone star tick is famous for are these tick bombs, 101 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: where you have thousands of baby ticks emerging from eggs 102 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: sitting in the little pile, and you can literally get 103 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: hundreds of them on yourself, and if you're unlucky enough 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: to be wearing shorts, they can all attach to you 105 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: and you'll have to scrape them off with a credit card. 106 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's that's gonna make me stay indoors this summer. 107 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: Oh, there's no reason to do that, nonstand. But the 108 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: way to protect yourself fight on Amazon. You can use 109 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: plain old repellents and always check yourself when you get 110 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: home and take a shower. 111 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: No, we've done many many shows on tick bites, and 112 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: we will continue to do them. But this is a 113 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: scary looking tick. Is this the sort of tick that 114 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: will literally climb up the side of a chair or 115 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: something if they want to bite you? Or is or 116 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: do you have to be you know, laying out on 117 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: a blanket somewhere and it sneaks up and you Deer 118 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: ticks they're they're almost imperceptible, and sometimes we know that 119 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: they go you know, to your armpits, the back of 120 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: your legs, they go to body crevices, and they're difficult 121 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: to discern. If this tick, which you see, I would 122 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: recognize this tick pretty obviously. Uh can you see? 123 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you describe if it's going to come. 124 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: Across across the room at you. 125 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 3: No, No, it has eyes. The deer tick is blind. 126 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: But the lone star tick and the dog tick both 127 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: have eyes and they can orient towards large objects, and 128 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: that the loan Star tike is very fast and it 129 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: can move across the room towards you. 130 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 4: Wow. 131 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for this heads up. This 132 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: is invaluable. We will do during the spring more shows, 133 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: not only with people talking about ways to protect yourselves 134 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: against tick. Keep those pant legs, you know, covered up 135 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: with socks and uh, and be careful if you're gardening, 136 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: if you're out in the woods. And we try to 137 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: tell people as much as as possible. But this was 138 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: the first time doctor Telford, we've ever talked about this, 139 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: this lone star tick, and this is this now is 140 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: something we're going to be very cognizant of and we 141 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: talk about that later this year. Thank you very much. 142 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: Fortunately, it's not all over Massachusetts. It's mainly the South 143 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: Coast Cape, caught in the Islands. 144 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Well, that's true, you live in the South Coast Cape, 145 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: cart in the Islands. I guess. 146 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: Uh. 147 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: Is there anywhere that people could get some information into 148 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: a website you could send listeners to who might be interested. 149 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: ABC has a great educational website. Uh. And and you 150 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: you you are doing great work in educating people through 151 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: your show. 152 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: Well, there's a there's a lot of people who have 153 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: been We have a fellow tick me and Dan, who 154 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: explains a lot to people about what happens. So we 155 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: have doctor Alfred Miller who's been a guest on this 156 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: program for many years, who's out of Texas, but he 157 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: is very, very aware of what's going on. So we 158 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: have a whole group of people over the years, a 159 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: kind of a coterie of guests that we have that 160 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: we've come up with. And I'm happy to have you 161 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: join us tonight and we'll get you back if that's okay. 162 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time this evening. 163 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for inviting me. 164 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: You're welcome. When we come back, hockey fans, Chris Nyland 165 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: will be here a West Roxbury's own Chris Nyland of course, 166 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Montreal Canadian and then a New York Ranger and Boston 167 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: brewin and he finished up in Montreal and he will 168 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: be inducted into the Massachusetts Hockey Hall of Fame. Well 169 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: deserved but a great honor. We'll talk with Chris Nyland 170 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: right after the break. 171 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio. 172 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: Well, I am delighted to welcome back a very close 173 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: friend and all so a great hockey player who will 174 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: soon be inducted into the Massachusetts Hockey Hall of Fame. 175 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: Lison Shadow my good friend Chris Nyland, formerly of the 176 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: Montreal Canadians. I'm sure he's at the Montreal Canadians game 177 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: tonight if I know him. They're playing the Hurricanes. Also 178 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: New York Ranger and Boston Bruin, but also by way 179 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: of Catholic Memorial High School in Northeastern University. Chris, congratulations, 180 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: what a great art you and your family. 181 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much, Dan, I appreciate it. Really, it 182 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 4: was such a surprise to me. 183 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 5: You know. 184 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: A few years ago a friend of mine from South Boston, 185 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: Franny Flaherty, his nephew Tom mcgrat, gave me a call 186 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: and said, geez, I'm trying to get you into the 187 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. And I'm like, Tom, you know, if 188 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: it happens, it happens. 189 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 5: What happened? 190 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: He said, no, no, you belonging there. And you know, 191 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 4: little did I know he worked on that for the 192 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: past four years. 193 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 5: And there's a new. 194 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: President and that Jeremiah told him, and he was pushing 195 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: for me to get in and they called me last week, 196 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: and it was it was such a big surprise, and 197 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: I'm really grateful. 198 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 5: That, you know, Tommy went out of. 199 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: His way like that and pushed for that because he 200 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: was he was just that he was a big fan 201 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: and more importantly involved in hockey. 202 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 5: You talked in. 203 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: Soap Boston uh for years and uh he's a vice 204 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: president there, and he just really he pushed me. So 205 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: it was a great surprise. 206 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: You know. 207 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: What it was really a surprise to me too, was 208 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 4: that you were two hundred and five pounds. 209 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 5: Man. 210 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: Why didn't you like why didn't you. 211 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: Try me at two old five? I was too old five? 212 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 5: You could have tried me. 213 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: Well, Chris, I've smart enough to see the video, okay, 214 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: And that's why I lost the late because they said 215 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: I never want to be the well you know up 216 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: to that that that area. Oh no, no, you know, Chris. Look, 217 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: I know that Boston fans didn't like you when you 218 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: played for the Indians. They loved you when you hear 219 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: it when you were here that one year. Mike Milbury 220 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: puts you on the NHL All Star Team. You have 221 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: a Stanley Cup ring, You've worked so hard. I loved 222 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: the story when you were I guess still at Northeastern. 223 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: You and a couple of your buddies bumped into some 224 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: Montreal Canadian players, including Gela Floor, after you had been drafted. 225 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: You were drafted, not a first round pick, but you were. 226 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: You were. You were drafted late in the draft, and 227 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: that is always propelled you to exceed expectations, not only 228 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: on the ice, but you've exceeded expectations off the ice too. 229 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: Tell us that story about you told these Canadian players 230 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 2: 're seeing training camp next year. Accept the story. 231 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: It happened. 232 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: I was wid I was had been drafted in seventy eight, 233 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: and the Canadians up playing the Bruins. It was seventy eight, 234 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: seventy nine and the halves were going for their ports 235 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: up in a row and Frannie I went and watched practice. 236 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: Franny Flowery friend of mine from South Boston. And we 237 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 4: come out afterwards and we pull around the corner and 238 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: there's three guys in the corner was Lafleur, La Maya 239 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 4: and Gil Lupian and we Franny said, hey, you want 240 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: to ride the hotel. We gave him a ride over 241 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 4: the hybrid and seeing Cambridge with his stand and on 242 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: the way over. Franny goes, see this guy right here's 243 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: going to be playing with you guys next year, the 244 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: Montreal right. So the three of them go really, and 245 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 4: Lemier goes, how are you going to do that? And 246 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: I said, well, I was drafted by you guys last year, 247 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: so I'm coming up next year to beat training camp. 248 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: I'll be up there. He said, oh really, when when 249 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: you drafted? I said, in the seventeenth round last year. 250 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: The three of them started laughing. I was all proud 251 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 4: and everything. I was seventeen. I didn't camp. I was 252 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: drafted first overall last It didn't matter. I was drafted 253 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 4: and I had an opportunity. So sure enough, you know, 254 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: I go up, we drop them off. I go up 255 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: to training camp and I'm sitting in the locker room 256 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: getting ready to go, and Dealer Flour is just staring 257 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 4: at me, looking at me, and why he looked. I 258 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: was nervous as anything, and he looked at me. He said, hey, 259 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 4: how about not get you the kid from Boston. You 260 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 4: said you were going to be I said, I told 261 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: you I was going to be here, And that kind 262 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: of loosened it up for me right away. When Gee 263 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: recognized me and you know, it made me relaxful. I 264 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: felt like, okay, but yeah, and then I bumped in 265 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: a loop end he said the same thing to me 266 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: and Jacques wa Mayer quite frank we never forgot that. 267 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: And Jacques wa Maya was such an important part of 268 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: my career up here. Him and Clodeuella two guys that 269 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: helped me develop into a full time NHL player. 270 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: You know, I listen, I had a lot of rough edges. 271 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, you had you had you scored, 272 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: you scored points. 273 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: Oh, but I had a lot of rough edges. 274 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: Those guys. 275 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: Those guys worked with me fundamental skating, pass and shooting 276 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: and everything and really helped me to to you know, 277 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 4: be able to play consistently at this level, not sitting 278 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: the bench and just fight, but become a hockey player. 279 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: And that's what I did. 280 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: And also lamiir had you joined him as an assistant 281 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: coach when he was a coach in New Jersey, which 282 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: is a lot of respect that he showed as well. Yeah, 283 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: and I love the question. The back end of that 284 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: story is that both you and Lemi and you and 285 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: Lafleura used to show up at the home games. You 286 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: were one of those guys that wanted to get to 287 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: the dressing room early, as was Lafleura. And so you 288 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: go from a guy you know who's drafted towards the 289 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: end of the draft and you're sitting there spending time 290 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: with Lafleur before the game, you know, really in a 291 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: one on one basis and understanding what he did to me. 292 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: You know, he was, you know, superstar and it's the 293 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: story kind of came full circle and that's what I 294 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: liked about it. Chris, And tell people, you're you're doing 295 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: a lot up in New Hampshire right now. You're you're 296 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: working with a company up there as an associate of 297 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: a very influential Canadian. You're doing you know, work obviously 298 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: with the Canadians a little bit as well. I assume 299 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: you're at the game tonight. My producers say, yeah, well 300 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: sounds like he's a game. 301 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. I am at the. 302 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: Game, and I'm in the alumni room right now. It's 303 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: quiet because everybody's out at the game. And Cowfield just 304 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: got his forty fourth goal of the season, so he's 305 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: doing pretty good. But and the Habs are up three too. 306 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: But that being said, what am I doing now? I 307 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: was named the ambassador with the Canadians. I'm the first 308 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: English ambassador and when I think about that, right, and 309 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: my dad was still alive when they named me, and 310 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: he was so proud of my father. And I mean, 311 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: I mean John Bellavo, You're talking about Gila Floor, Evan 312 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: colmay Uh, Henry Rashad, rocket Shod and just just in 313 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: a hall of fames that were ambassadors yet and there 314 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: was never an English guy and I get named. I 315 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: tell you it was such a problem moment for me. 316 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: And I also worked with the Lawrence Eddie. I'm an 317 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: ambassador of the Barrier F Lawrence Tti Foundation mental health 318 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 4: foundation here in Montreal. I do a lot of work 319 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: for them, go around and speak and go to different 320 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: events for them and try and raise money. So yeah, 321 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 4: it's it's been awesome. 322 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 5: Really. 323 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: When I got my life back together after the struggles 324 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 4: I had and moving back, I had opportunity in the radio. 325 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: I worked in the radio for quite a bit and 326 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: then ten years there and I lost that job because 327 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: I wouldn't get vaccinated. They fired me, which okay, and 328 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: again not. 329 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: My opinion that they made a mistake, but Chris, you 330 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: have it's back from from worse things. And yes, I've 331 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: been thank you for a long time as a friend, uh, 332 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: and as as a representative in the spirit of full disclosure, 333 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: and as someone who I really know and consider a 334 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: great friend. And I couldn't have been happier when you 335 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: called the other day and explained that you're going into 336 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: the Massachusetts Hockey Hall of Fame. So well dissout. 337 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Dan you it's such a good friend to 338 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: me all these years. 339 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 5: I'll never forget. 340 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: You told me when you've represented me as an agent 341 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: back in the day that Chris, I will be here 342 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: long after your hockey career is over. 343 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: And that statement has been so true. 344 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: And I'll never forget different agents when I established myself 345 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: wanted me to jump shift. 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 5: And come over to them. You'll make more money with me. 347 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 5: Get away from that. 348 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: Dan Ray And uh, you were loyal to me, and 349 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 4: I was loyal to you, and I always will these So. 350 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: It's been a great it's been a great friend. I 351 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: can always say that help guide the career of a 352 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: Hall of famer, So you are Hall of Famer. My 353 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: book is a person as well as a hockey player. 354 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: Crits go back and bring the Canadians home. If they 355 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: were down to one. I've been following the game as well. 356 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: They're up three too, and uh yeah, bring them home 357 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: and get them in the playoffs. There'll be some great 358 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: playoffs game playoff games maybe with the Bruins and the 359 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: Canadians this year. 360 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: You justice, that will be nice. 361 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: Once again, Give Jamie a big hug, Give Jamie a 362 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: big hug for me, and we'll talk soon. 363 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 5: Okay, pil all right, thanks so much. I have a 364 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 5: good night, my pleasure. 365 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: Chris Chris Nyland, Massachusetts Hockey Hall of Fame, well deserved, 366 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: my friend. When we get back, we're going to change 367 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: topics here just a little bit, and we're going to 368 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: talk about We're going to talk with the Fellows, a 369 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: financial analyst about a new survey that has come out 370 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: which has talked about which states your paycheck goes the longest, 371 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: or to put it a different way, which states do 372 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: you work the fewest days to you actually have a 373 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: decent lifestyle. It's a very interesting analysis and observation, and 374 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: I'm telling you in Massachusetts is not one of the 375 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: top states unfortunately. Matter of fact, most of them are 376 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: in the Midwest. We're back with Sam Borgie right after 377 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: the break. Here on Nightside, Here comes the news at 378 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. 379 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Boston's News Radio. 380 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Happy to bring back a guest who's 381 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: been here before. Sam Borgie. He's a financial analyst and 382 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: he's here to talk about a very interesting study that 383 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: was done by Investors Observer of the top ten states 384 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: where Americans trade the least work days for rent, food, 385 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: and a used car. That sounds a little confusing, However, 386 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: the way to describe it, I think Sam, is the 387 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: top ten states the states, the top states where Americans 388 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: work the fewest days every year to afford the basics rent, 389 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: food and the use car. And the states are virtually 390 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: all in the middle of the country Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska, Missouri, 391 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: North Dakota, Wisconsin, Kansas, Ohio, South Dakota, and Washington. How 392 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: significant do you think this study is in your opinion? 393 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 6: Thanks Dan for having me on again. 394 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 395 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 6: So, we wanted to We wanted to just track the 396 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 6: affordability crisis, and we try to do it in different 397 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 6: ways to kind of look at how Americans are trying 398 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 6: to make ends of me. And one of the ways 399 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 6: is by looking at how many workdays do you need 400 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 6: just to afford those basics that you mentioned, and all 401 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 6: those states that you mentioned, the average number of days 402 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 6: below the national average is about sixty six days. So 403 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 6: obviously there's a lot of benefits living in the middle 404 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 6: of the country from the affordability perspective, especially when it 405 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 6: comes to things like rent and even groceries, and that 406 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 6: changes drastically when you get to the coasts, especially in 407 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 6: your state, where it's the complete opposite. So it's interesting 408 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 6: to see where people are struggling the most, but also 409 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: where there's the most affordable places, and I think it's 410 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 6: in the middle of the country based on what we're finding. 411 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so if let us say, for example, a state 412 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: like Minnesota, you only have to work fifty three work days, 413 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: which I guess would be you know, in effect ten 414 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: weeks five week week being five days, you have more 415 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: disposable cash at the end of the year generally. Now 416 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: again they're using the as the standard rent, food and 417 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: the used car. And obviously this doesn't mean every person 418 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. There are some people in Minnesota who make less, 419 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: some people make more. How does Massachusetts and the other 420 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: New England states, But really focus on Massachusetts. If the 421 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: average workdays in order to pay rent, food and a 422 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: used car is sixty six, where does the Bay State, 423 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: that's our nickname, the Bay State, the Massachusetts Bay Calling, 424 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: Where do we stand in terms of that number. Minnesota's 425 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: fifty three, which is better than sixty six, lower than 426 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: sixty six. How high is. 427 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 6: Massachusetts Massachusetts is that's seventy six work days a year, 428 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 6: just for the basics, and that's actually an increase of 429 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 6: eleven days since two thousand and seven. So we compared 430 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 6: it to the trend before the financial crisis to look 431 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 6: at how things have changed, and over that period, people 432 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 6: in your state have to work an extra eleven days. 433 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 6: And the irony in that is that Massachusetts is one 434 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 6: of the highest wages in the country. Wages the average 435 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 6: hourly wage I think over forty two dollars, just close 436 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 6: to show you that even though people make more, doesn't 437 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 6: necessarily mean that they're saving more or that they have 438 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 6: more disposable income, because a lot more of that money 439 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 6: is going towards basic necessity, especially in a place that's 440 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: you know, has very higher ends, as you know the 441 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 6: greater Boston area does. 442 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And there's there's also a lot of taxes 443 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: involved here in Massachusetts. Things are more expensive in Massachusetts. 444 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: We have an outflow. We're losing a lot of residents, 445 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: long term residents, who are moving to some of the 446 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: some of the states that we've just mentioned here. I 447 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: guess some people would say, Okay, they have a better 448 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: They may have it may be a more reasonable financial 449 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: area to live, But we have so many better things 450 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts. And obviously it's all subjective. We have universities, 451 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: and we have hospitals and great medical care and all 452 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: of that, but it all comes, it all comes at 453 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: a cost. From your observations, it's it's sort of a 454 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: different lifestyle when you live in some of these states 455 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: that we're talking about in the middle of the country, 456 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: from again Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska, Missouri, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Kansas, Ohio, 457 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: South Dakota, and the state of Washington, which is the 458 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: only one that's on the coast, the West coast. You 459 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: can do more. You have more money in your pocket, 460 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: which then gives you an opportunity I guess, to one, 461 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: just be able to do more with the money you're 462 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: paid for your family and for yourself. You probably get 463 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: more in housing and right down the line. But it's 464 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: a different lifestyle, correct. 465 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 6: Correct, it's a much different lifestyle. I mean, people want 466 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 6: to live in Boston, they want to live in you know, 467 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 6: San Francisco, they want to live in New York. And 468 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 6: there's a reason why those are magnets, right There are 469 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 6: magnets for jobs, for culture, for lifestyle, for amenities. And 470 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 6: not to say the Middle Country doesn't have those, they 471 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 6: certainly do, but not to the extent that some of 472 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 6: these other West Coast and East Coast cities do. So again, 473 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 6: a lot of people now are starting to realize that, 474 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 6: you know, what may be the most important thing is, 475 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 6: you know, I get the bang for my buck, and 476 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 6: so they're starting to consider more Midwestern cities. I guess 477 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 6: the trade off though, is work opportunities. You know, you 478 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 6: go to some of these places Nebraska, Missouri, North Dakota, 479 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 6: for example, you're not going to find the same high, 480 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 6: high paying jobs as you're going to find elsewhere. So 481 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 6: again it's one of those kind of you know, chicken 482 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 6: or the egg things. You know, people move for work, 483 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 6: but if the work isn't there, what do you do. 484 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 6: You move to a place that has the work, and 485 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 6: you pay more, so every decision. They're very subjective. But 486 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 6: you know a lot of people who move to a 487 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 6: place like Boston, you know, a lot of them are 488 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 6: willing to absorb the cost if they can, and if 489 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 6: they can't, unfortunately they end up leaving. That's what we're seeing. 490 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 6: So that's kind of the trend that we're seeing over 491 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 6: the past I would say, ten years. 492 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 2: And there's also here in places like Boston and New 493 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: York there's a lot of additional stress. I assume that 494 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm just picking a state here. If you live in 495 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: in Nebraska or Missouri or North Dakota, the wide open spaces, 496 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's a little easier to get around and 497 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: a lot of the stress that you know, people spend 498 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: more time in Massachusetts and New York City in their 499 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: cars if they're driving to work. They have to live 500 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: far away, further away from the city in order to 501 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: you know, have a comfortable lifestyle. But they got to 502 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: get into the city to make that salary. And it's 503 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: a lot of time in autumn mobiles and we talk 504 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: about that a lot here on night Side, which results 505 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: in stress wear and tear. Do you guys do studies 506 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: as to life expectancy as a consequence of these more 507 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: laid back states versus the high stress taste states. Have 508 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: there been studies done in that regard. 509 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 6: I believe there have. We haven't dealt into that yet, 510 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 6: but we definitely will. We know that you know, sitting 511 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 6: in your car. We calculate the hours, days, years that 512 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 6: you spent sitting in your car commuting to work over 513 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 6: an entire career. It's actually mind boggling. And a lot 514 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 6: of these cities are actually getting a lot worse. So 515 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 6: if you take a look at a lot of the 516 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 6: downtown cores in every major city in the country, it's 517 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 6: getting even worse. And you know, public trends that doesn't 518 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 6: really get you much in terms of if you're traveling 519 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 6: long distances. So, yeah, we saw some of these, you 520 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 6: know trends in COVID where people who decided no, I 521 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 6: can work remotely now, so I'm going to leave, you know, 522 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 6: these high high cost regions and go to a place 523 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 6: that you know is more affordable. I can just work 524 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 6: from home. That's kind of been being pulled back now 525 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 6: as a lot of these work from home kind of 526 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 6: mandates have been disappearing. People find themselves now navigating back 527 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 6: to those cities, and with that comes with the stress 528 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 6: and as you mentioned, the wear and tear not only 529 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 6: on your on your car, but also on your your 530 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 6: life expectancy. If you're spending an hour and a half 531 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 6: a day, two hours a day just commuting, that's bound 532 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 6: to take a toll on you and your health for sure. 533 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Besides, instead to be able to spend that maybe 534 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: taking a walk or I'm spending some time in a gym. 535 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: In a gym, it's a more sedentary lifestyle if you're 536 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: sitting in your car. Massachusetts is losing people. I know 537 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: that Los the California is losing population, a lot of 538 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: people moving to low cost states. Are there other states 539 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: around the country that are having this outflow of residents 540 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: as Massachusetts and California are having. 541 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're seeing that trend also in New York and 542 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 6: New Jersey. I mean New Jersey is actually one of 543 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 6: the most unaffordable states, especially for rent, which actually really 544 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 6: surprised me. Places like AirLand, New Jersey are are are 545 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 6: really expensive and you're starting to see an exodus from 546 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 6: those regions as well. So I know everyone was flogging 547 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 6: to Florida for a while. You know, that kind of 548 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 6: bubble seems to have, especially with the with the real estate, 549 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 6: but you are seeing people move towards places like you know, 550 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 6: in like Tennessee and other places that have maybe lower 551 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 6: taxes and that are still considered more affordable than you know, 552 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 6: a Florida, which you know, those real estate prices kind 553 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: of kind of skyrocketed since COVID. Everything's coming back down though. 554 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 6: Rents are down really across a lot of the major cities, 555 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 6: even Austin, which was a you know, crazy rents we 556 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 6: saw during COVID, it's coming down now. So yeah, a 557 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 6: lot of it's again it's the coastal cities. That's where 558 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 6: the expensive you know rents are, where the higher taxes are, 559 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: and where people have been leaving and a lot of 560 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 6: them went south to the sun Belt. And now that 561 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 6: kind of has kind of cooled recently as the labor 562 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 6: market has been you know, a bit uneven. 563 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: Well, Sam, you guys are great spotting, identifying and and 564 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: focusing on trends. How can folks get a subscription or 565 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: what what? How can they get more information U this 566 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: Investors Observer you can subscribe to that. I mean, you 567 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: have some really good stuff that you guys do tell us, 568 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: tell us how folks can can get in contact with 569 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: you and with who you represent. 570 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 6: Absolutely, you can go to investors observer dot com. We're 571 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 6: a news publication. We cover our daily news, we do research. 572 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 6: I also have a daily newsletter before the opening bell. 573 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 6: Will kind of help you get understanding of what's happening 574 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 6: in the market today. You know, running a lot about 575 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 6: oil prices recently, as you can imagine, and what that's 576 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 6: gonna how that's gonna affect, you know, the price of 577 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 6: you know, groceries. So investor observer dot com sign up 578 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 6: to our newsletter and all of our content is free. 579 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 6: We would love to see you there. 580 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the the market had a great day yesterday. It's 581 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: it was down today. I don't know what they're looking 582 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: at tomorrow, you know, pre market training all of that, 583 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: but obviously it's being well. The market is I think 584 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: showing you it's going to be a positive day tomorrow. 585 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: I have no idea why, but we'll figure that out. 586 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the the the the projector the Dow 587 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: futures up four hundred points and the Dow up on 588 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: a full percentage point across the board. The Dow of 589 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: the futures, the S and P five hundred and the Nasdaq. 590 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: So maybe that means some good news in terms of 591 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: the Iran war. I don't know. I can't figure it out, Sam, 592 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: but it's great to be able to talk to you 593 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: every once in a while. 594 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, my pleasure. 595 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: Thanks dam talk again when we get back on to 596 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: talk about something that I'm really comfortable with, and that's baseball. 597 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: Going to talk with Boston Globe reporter columnist extraordinaire Peter 598 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: Abraham and talk about the Red Sox, who opened this 599 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: season less than forty eight hours from now in Cincinnati. 600 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: And I understand it's going to be a warm day 601 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati on Thursday, and I'll be watching it on TV. 602 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: Moving back at Night Side with Peter Abraham right after this. 603 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio. 604 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe. Peter, 605 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sure where you are, but I assume you're 606 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: getting out of What Myers heading to Cincinnati. 607 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 7: I was able to get out of Fort Myers last 608 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 7: night and came home for a day and heading to 609 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 7: Cincinnati tomorrow. 610 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: Oh Man I'll tell you nothing like the start of 611 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: the baseball season. It used to be, as you know 612 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: that Cincinnati traditionally was the first major league game every year. 613 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that that still exists. Will the Red 614 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: Sox and the Reds be the first on the clock. 615 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: It's a four o'clock start on Thursday? Correct? 616 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. 617 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 7: No everybody's playing, Well, there's actually a game on Wednesday, 618 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 7: but everybody else starting the season on Thursday. And I 619 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 7: know the Reds have a big parade through downtown. That's 620 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 7: one of their traditions. That's Opening Day in Cincinnati is 621 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 7: a pretty big deal. 622 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, So everybody wants to know. And of course 623 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: we read you all the time in the Globe, the 624 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: best sports page in the country as far as I'm concerned, 625 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: because of the writers, including yourself, you did a lot 626 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: in today's paper. Has this team, which well they won 627 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: eighty nine games year ago, is that the break even 628 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: point a year ago? 629 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? 630 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 7: I mean eighty nine and seventy three got them into 631 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 7: the playoffs, And I don't know that it would again 632 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 7: this season because you know, you look at what Toronto 633 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 7: did and Yankees last year, and you know, Baltimore improved. 634 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 7: There's some you know, good competition in the American League East, 635 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 7: and the Socks did some good things to improve the roster, 636 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 7: but they didn't kind of take that big swing that 637 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 7: everybody was expecting them to. 638 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah again everybody over the winter. I think that the 639 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: acquisition of the third basement from Milwaukee Durbin was kind 640 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: of a late surprise and a late move, which puts 641 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: Marcelo in my mayor over at second base. How is 642 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: the infield? Obviously it's you got Story at shortstops. So 643 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: the infield is going to be pretty good, not great, 644 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: but pretty good. Is that a fair analysis? 645 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. And defensively it should be a 646 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 7: lot better. They had some issues on infield last year 647 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 7: with their defense, but there is a very good defender. 648 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 7: He was when the walk he last year in third base, 649 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 7: and Marcela Meyer was a good shortstop and usually good 650 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 7: shortstops make good second basement and he did play well 651 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 7: defensively in spring training and seems to have good chemistry 652 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 7: with Story and Wilson conturists at first base. Has been 653 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 7: an above average first baseman since converting from being a 654 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 7: catcher when he was with the Cardinals. 655 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 6: So the socks. 656 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 7: You know, do have four good infielders, though. That part 657 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 7: of it is something Alex Corr has been talking about 658 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 7: for years, trying to improve their infield defense. And they 659 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 7: think they've done it, and I don't know, I don't 660 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 7: know that you can say they're going to be one 661 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 7: of the best defensive infields, but they're certainly going to 662 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 7: be a lot better than. 663 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 5: They were the last few years. 664 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: Okay, the outfield a there's a lot of talent. The 665 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: five major league outfielder's gonna have a lot problem with 666 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: playing time. 667 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 7: Right Yeah, you know, Alex Korr has the term he's 668 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 7: been used in all spring training was it's not a problem, 669 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 7: it's a luxury. And you know, there's certainly not an issue. 670 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 7: You can't have too many good players. But I think 671 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 7: it is going to be a challenge over the course 672 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 7: of the season for him to keep all five of 673 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 7: those guys happy, because all of them can say, you know, hey, 674 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 7: I should be in the lineup today and will be 675 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 7: you know, not outwardly upset, but certainly disappointed when they're not. 676 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 7: And you look at you know, Roman Anthony is a guy, 677 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 7: you know, the face of the franchise at this point, 678 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 7: he's you know, unless he needs a day off, he's 679 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 7: going to play every day. William Bray was one of 680 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 7: the big stars at WBC and a gold Glover in 681 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 7: right field. That Don Rafaela was a goal glover in centerfield. 682 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 7: So Jared Duran looks like somebody who's going to play 683 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 7: a lot of d H. And then what do you 684 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 7: do with Masatake Yoshida, who's one of their highest paid 685 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 7: players and doesn't seem to have a role on the 686 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 7: team beyond you know, DHG on occasion or being a 687 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 7: pinch hitter. So it's not necessarily a problem, but I 688 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 7: do wonder if they could have done something in the 689 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 7: off season to kind of better balance their offense. 690 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: And then let's go to the pitching staff. Crochet has 691 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: not looked like Crochet of last year, but he should 692 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: be okay, Sunny Grade is doing pretty well, Suarez a 693 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: little up and down, Bellow looked good in his last outing, 694 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 2: and Oviedo got lit up a little bit today. Things 695 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: you're still happy with that rotation? 696 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, they got to open up with Oviedo in the 697 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 7: bullpen and have Connelly early who started the playoff game 698 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 7: against the Yankees last year. In the rotation, and he 699 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 7: had a very good spring training. 700 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: So okay, that's a little bit of a late, an 701 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: eleventh hour change. 702 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was. 703 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 7: And I was surprised because they seemed to be leaning 704 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 7: towards Oviedo over much of camp. But he's he's somebody. 705 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 7: I think he's still going to figure into the rotation 706 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 7: over the course of time, but at least for now, 707 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 7: they wanted to put him in the bullpen and give 708 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 7: them some long relief options. I think the biggest thing 709 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 7: about the rotation is when they needed a starter last year, 710 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 7: whether it was because of injury or whatever it was, 711 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 7: they were scrambling around. They didn't have good depth in 712 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 7: a rotation. But this year they do. They have Connolly 713 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 7: early and Peyton Toley. They'll get Cutter Crawford back and 714 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 7: Patrick Sanderbal back relatively soon. They have four guys that 715 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 7: you wouldn't be worried about starting a major league game, 716 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 7: and last year there were a lot of bullpen games 717 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 7: and games when they were scratching around trying to find somebody. 718 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 7: I think over the course of the season that's going 719 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 7: to make a big difference that they'll be in a 720 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 7: lot more games than they were last year when they 721 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 7: had to kind of just you know, put something together. 722 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 5: At the last minute a lot of times. 723 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 7: So that part of it, I think is going to 724 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 7: be a strength that they have a number of starting 725 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 7: pitchers they can rely on. 726 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 2: Okay, So, Peter, I know that you guys all would 727 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: do in predictions, I think last Sunday in the Globe. 728 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: So where are you picking this team? 729 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 7: Well, I think they're a playoff team. I don't think 730 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 7: they're a division winning team, and with the three wildcards, 731 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 7: I think they can get one of those, but they 732 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 7: could finish third in the division and still make the playoffs. 733 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 7: I don't know that they're better than the Yankees or 734 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 7: the Blue Jays, but I do think they could be 735 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 7: better than the Oreos and the Rays. And I don't 736 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 7: know that you know, another one of the wildcard teams 737 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 7: would come from one of the other divisions. But the 738 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 7: American League is beare I mean, Seattle look at a 739 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 7: good de Troit's got a good team. You look at 740 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 7: the American League East, it's you know, whoever wins the 741 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 7: American League this year is certainly going to be a 742 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 7: I think, you know, a team that's gonna win ninety 743 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 7: four to ninety five games. It's you know, I don't 744 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 7: know that the Red Sox are a team that can 745 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 7: win that many games, but I think they're going to 746 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 7: be in the mix in terms of the postseason. 747 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 2: Okay, so, so is the magic number for you one 748 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: or two more wins than last year. I mean, that's 749 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: that's really the analysis here. If you if you come 750 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: off of last year with eighty nine and the team 751 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: has been improved, even though the division may have been improved, 752 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 2: I'm thinking ninety one games for the Red Sox this. 753 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 7: Year, maybe mo Yeah, ninety ninety one I think would 754 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 7: be enough to get into the postseason. When you know, 755 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 7: I mean you look at you know, they haven't won 756 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 7: the division since twenty eighteen, and that's kind of been 757 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 7: the standard over the years. You know, you expect the 758 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 7: Red Sox to be, you know, one of the best 759 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 7: teams in the American League East. But the way you know, 760 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 7: in so many teams making the postseason now, you certainly 761 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 7: can do damage coming from a wild card. Even though 762 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 7: they lost that series against the Yankees last year, that 763 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 7: they were good games and you know, they were right 764 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 7: in those games. So if they are a little better, 765 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 7: you'd like to think they could. 766 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 5: They could get to the second round of the playoffs 767 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 5: this season. 768 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: Peter Abraham, I don't know if you've got to Cincinnati 769 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: yet or whatever, but safe travels, and we'll be looking 770 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 2: forward to your your reports, not only on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 771 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: and the season will have begun and spring hasn't hit 772 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 2: Boston yet for real. But when the Red Sox finish 773 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: up in Cincinnati and Houston and they're head and back, 774 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: we'll we'll all be really excited. Hey, open up with 775 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 2: the padres. Peter, Thank you so much. Always great to 776 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: talk with that. I love baseball and I love talking 777 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: with you guys. 778 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Thanks very much. 779 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: Then, all right, when we get back, we're going to 780 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 2: talk about Governor Healy, who now wants to get rid 781 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: of the being on Sunday hunting. I think it's an 782 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: interesting conversation that we will have with a dear friend 783 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: of mine who is very much an animal rights activist 784 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,479 Speaker 2: all animals big and small. We'll be back on Night's 785 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: side with Assistant Dean Diane Sullivan of the New England 786 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: School of Law and also the founder of the Shadow Fund. 787 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 2: We will be back right after the nine o'clock news