1 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: This radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in for the 2 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Great American Willie Cunningham. 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Bill will be back on Monday. I'm told. So you 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: got me today, and. 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: I tell you I was in earlier in the week 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and I'm still dealing with this whatever the heck I am. 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: I guess it's a cold. 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm told it's not contagious, so it's not going to 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: seep through the airwaves and get you. But a bit 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: of a struggle. But I'm happy to be here. Well, 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I mean. There's always something breaking, 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: it seems like. On my way out here today, news 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: came on over the radio that the United States Supreme 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Court has decided the Trump tariff case. And this is 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: a big one, folks. I mean, it really is a 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: lot of money, major policy issues involved in this one. 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: It did not go for President Trump. It went against him. 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: And it's interesting you look at the breakdown. It was 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: a six to three decision, and the justices that wrote 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: the or joined in the majority decision was Chief Justice 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: John Roberts. He wrote it that's usually the way it works, 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: not always, but the Chief Justice wrote the majority opinion 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: was also affirmed by Judge Sonia so To, Mayor Elena 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Justice Sona Soda, Mayor Justice Kagan, Justice Gorsuch Agustus, Justice 25 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: Amy Coney Barrett, and Justice Katanji Brown Jackson. So so 26 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: much for Donald Trump as the United States Supreme Court 27 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: in his back pocket. 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Couldn't be more further from the truth. 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: The dissenters were Justice Cavanall, Justice Thomas, and Justice and 30 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: it goes from what I understand. It's like one hundred 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: and seventy page decision, which you know in some appellate courts, 32 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: not the Supreme Court, but sometimes he's appellate court judges 33 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: when they write opinions, they write it to impress their 34 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: fellow judges and lawyers, and it's a little bit wordy 35 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: when it doesn't have to be. 36 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: I haven't even looked at this thing yet. 37 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: I do not so in the United States Supreme Court, 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they're it. You just know there's no work around. 39 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that I've just heard 40 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: early on that the President supposedly has a work around 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: to this thing. But you know, you don't work around 42 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: the United States Supreme Court. But you know who knows 43 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: also was just advised a few minutes ago that he 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: is going to address the nation President Trump. They're saying 45 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: around one o'clock one point thirty. But those things never 46 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: start on time, so we might have to jump to 47 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: that at some point just to let you know that. 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: But as fate would have it, I. 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Had former Hamilton County common Please Judge Kurt Hartman. He's 50 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: also a constitutional scholar. I had him coming on at 51 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: twelve thirty to discuss something else. So we're going to pivot, 52 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: as they say, I'm going to ask Judge Hartman about 53 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: this case. And he has appeared in argued cases before 54 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: the United States Supreme Court. I've never had the honor 55 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: of doing that. I think it'd be pretty cool. But 56 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: anyway I asked him. I said, hey, can you just 57 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: like text me a few major points of this thing 58 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: because I'm not going to be able to have time 59 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: to read it here it is in kind of a nutshell. 60 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: And again at twelve thirty, unless the President comes on, 61 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: we will be talking to Judge Hartman about this, okay, 62 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, one hundred and seventy page opinion. The 63 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: four major points. According to Judge Hartman, the power to 64 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: tax is constitution given to Congress which is absolutely unequivocally right. 65 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean it is tariffs are a little bit different, 66 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: but tariffs are a form of taxation. This is again 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: from the opinion the statute which the president claims authority 68 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: to impose the tariffs did not clearly and unambiguously give 69 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: him this power. And that's there's an acronym for. 70 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: That law that they're talking about. 71 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: I just don't remember what it was, but it's a 72 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: it's a newer, well newer, you know, is a relative 73 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: term when you're talking about the Supreme Court. But President 74 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: Nixon during his term I don't know when, during his term, 75 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: of course, he was from nineteen sixty eight till he 76 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: resigned in seventy two, President Nixon did something similar to this, 77 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: and it went to the Supreme Court, United States Supreme Court, 78 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: and they affirmed the president. So I don't know, But 79 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: then there was a law in did I believe because 80 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: of that case, and that's what President Trump and the 81 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: DJ was hanging their heads on. So, you know, you 82 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: got three justices, three of the justices that were in 83 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the majority, they kind of indicated that in their minds, 84 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: I guess. And again this is from Judge Hartman. What 85 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: about and this is a big, big question. I don't 86 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: know how they get around this or how they address it. 87 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: What about the money that's already been paid in in 88 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: terrace And I've heard estimates just in the last half 89 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: hour or so anywhere from one hundred and forty billion 90 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: to one hundred and seventy five billion. I don't know 91 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: how you get that two paste back in the in 92 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: the container. You just don't. So Reuters is saying it's 93 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: in excess of one hundred and seventy five billion dollars. Again, 94 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: a major major test of executive power. President Nixon did it. 95 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: He was not overturned. So again, I can't say this enough. 96 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: And there's always political elements to all this stuff. What 97 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: you heard from the Democrats, Chucky Schumer at all and 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: the rest of him whenever they get a decision the 99 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: left or the Democrats won, and the same that is 100 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: from the Supreme Court that does not go the way 101 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: they wanted to go. Trump's got the He's got the 102 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: Supreme Court in his back pocket. 103 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: You know that we got to do something. 104 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: We got to and Schumer said this and some others too, 105 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: we have to expand the court to get around that. Well, 106 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: you know what, if you're a student of history, you 107 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: know FDR tried that. I'll tell you he pretty much 108 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: got about anything he wanted when he was digging us 109 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: out of the depression. But Supreme Court said nope, we're 110 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: not doing that. So that didn't happen. Well, I guess 111 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: it was Congress that said no, we're not doing that. 112 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: So I guess the point I'm trying to make is, 113 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: I seriously doubt if you're going to hear any Republicans saying, oh, 114 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: this is this is just not right, this is a travesty. 115 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. We're going to have to 116 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: pack the courts. No, that's the other side that does that, 117 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: not Republicans and not the right. It will be interesting 118 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: to see how this plays out. It's going to be 119 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: interesting to see what the President has to say. As 120 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: I said earlier, not today, but I don't know. Some 121 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: time ago, someone reporter asked, he answers any question that's 122 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: asked to him, and as far as I'm concerned, that's 123 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: in his credit. 124 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: He said something about, well, you know, we'll find a 125 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: work around. 126 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Like I said, it's 127 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: the top court in the land, and it's a little 128 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: bit difficult to work around. So we shall see. Hey, 129 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's just take a brief break. We'll 130 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: come back for a little bit, and then hopefully at 131 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: twelve thirty will have Judge Hartman. He can lay it 132 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: all out for us. Mike Allen In for Willie, seven 133 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: hundred WLW, FOREL twenty six News Radio, seven hundred WLW, 134 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: Mike Allen In for the Great American. We're waiting to 135 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: find out what the President's going to do about speaking 136 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: to the nation. I presume it has to be about 137 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: the tariff case. But you know he'll stand up there 138 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: and answer any question that they throw at him, which again, 139 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: like him or not. I mean I heard something not 140 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: too long ago where he did more press conferences and 141 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: I guess the first five or six months of his 142 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: second term than Biden did in all of his term. 143 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: And you know, again, I know a lot of people 144 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: don't like the guy, but he lets the American people 145 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: know what he's thinking and what he's going to do, 146 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: and I think you have to give him props for that. Listen, 147 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be upfront about this. Put my cards on 148 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: the table. The tariff issue. I don't know enough about it. 149 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: I should know more. Frankly, issues like this that deal 150 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: with the economy. Sometimes my eyes just kind of glaze over. 151 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: But obviously it's extremely important and it's going to be 152 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see what goes on after this, how it 153 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: works out, how they give the money back. I think 154 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: somebody said, and we'll ask Judge Hartman this that one 155 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: of the justices in the opinion, the affirming opinion addressed, 156 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: how do you you know? The question is how do 157 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: you give the money back, which obviously infers that they 158 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: think that that should happen. But was talking before the 159 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: break here about President Nixon doing something very similar. Not 160 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: sure when it was, but they did. Congress did pass something. 161 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: And this is what I was referring to when I 162 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: said that something happened after Nixon did it. It is 163 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: the Internal Emergency Economic Powers Act of nineteen seventy seven. 164 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: They refer to it, of course, as the IEEPA, and 165 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court in this case found in Trump's case, 166 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: found that the power to regulate importation under a national emergency. 167 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: And that's right. The president declared a national emergency. And 168 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, courts are so generous with what constitutes in 169 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: a national emergency or not. I guess it's kind of subjective, 170 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: But the Supreme Court found that the power to regulate 171 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: importation under this under the national security national emergency does 172 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: not include the power to tax. You know, then you 173 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: have the argument, I guess, well, it's not a tax, 174 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: it's a tariff. But I think the Supreme Court sees 175 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: it differently. Chief Justice Robert he wrote for the majority, 176 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: wrote that the Constitution explicitly grants Congress, not the President, 177 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: the power to lay and collect taxes. And far be 178 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: it from me to disagree with the Chief Justice, but 179 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right about that. So, I mean, there are 180 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: some legitimate issues in this thing. Yeah, And some people say, well, 181 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: why are we worried about it? Because the foreign countries, 182 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: they're the ones paying the tariffs? 183 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: Who cares? 184 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: And honestly, it's kind of the way I thought about it. 185 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to do a little bit deeper 186 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: dive though. Contrary too, and this is from AI, which 187 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: again I've found to be accurate and fair. Supposedly that's 188 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: the deal that it is not necessarily that I just 189 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: was advised that we got to get going. Hey, listen, 190 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: we got to take a break for the news. But 191 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: when we get back, hopefully we will have Kurt Hartman, 192 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: Judge Kurt Hartman, former judge, and we'll have him lined 193 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: up to talk about this thing. 194 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: We get back. 195 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back, 196 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for the Great American who will be 197 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: back on Monday talking about the Supreme Court decision on 198 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: tariffs that went against President Trump. All the experts are 199 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: trying to dissect it. From what I understand, it's a biggie. 200 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: It's one hundred and seventy something pages, and that's probably 201 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: just the main case. I don't know if that includes 202 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: the descent or not. I was originally going to have 203 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: Judge Hartman on to talk about something else, but this 204 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: thing came down, I don't know, a couple of hours ago, 205 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: and he's been kind enough to call in and give 206 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: us his opinion on it. Judge Hartman is in private 207 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: practice now, and he's also a constitutional lawyer, having argued cases. 208 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: I believe he'll tell us before the United States Supreme Court. Judge, 209 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us, Mike, always glad to 210 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: be with you. And you have practice in front of 211 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Correct, I have practice? Not I did 212 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: not do the argument. Another lawyer did the argument. Okay, 213 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: you have had cases at the Supreme Court. 214 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but. 215 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: That as a very yes. 216 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: And you know, one hundred and seventy page decision comes 217 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 4: out today and. 218 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: That decision includes the dissent. 219 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 4: But what the interesting thing is, you know, usually on 220 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: these cases, you get an opinion from the court and 221 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 4: you get a dissenting opinion, right one one justice or 222 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: another might add to chime in a little bit. In 223 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: this case, including the major opinion, seven of the justices 224 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: wrote about the case, so that we're concurring opinions, two 225 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: dissenting written opinions. So, uh, a lot of them chimed 226 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: in on this case. And so there's a kind of 227 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: a lot to absorb. But you know, in the time 228 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: we've had to kind of go through it. You know, Yeah, 229 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: it comes across really a simple analysis, I would say, 230 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 4: for the most part, and just kind of summarize it 231 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: with for you and the listeners. Essentially the court the 232 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: majority he said, you know, the power to tax, the 233 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: power to raise revenues is a power in the legislative 234 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: branch of government, that is the power in the Constitution 235 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: given to Congress, and that tariffs are a form of taxation, 236 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 4: so that's within the power of Congress. 237 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: Well, can I ask you, is that a leap of 238 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: faith on the Court's part or do you essentially agree 239 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: with it? 240 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: I know what's in the constitution. Yeah, on a face, 241 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: it sounds like that's right, that is absolutely right. 242 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: I mean it goes back into even British history, you know. 243 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: I mean England had their Civil war over the power 244 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: to lay taxes because the king had to call Parliament in. 245 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: To raise taxes. 246 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: Right that the king couldn't raised taxes, Parliament raised taxes. 247 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: So the fact that the raising of taxes or the 248 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: imposition of taxes is a legislative power, you know, predates 249 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: are republic so that that's not that controversial. And you 250 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: know the taxes coming they say, is a tax, and 251 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: I think that's a fair assessment. You know, it's being 252 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: levied on the product. And so the final question kind 253 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: of in the final conclusion, they said, so, you know, 254 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: the President claimed authority to impose the tariffs under a 255 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: law of the International Emergency Economic Act, the i e e. 256 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: A he said, you know, and hey, it gives me 257 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: the power and emergencies to regulate these imports. 258 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: And so the President was. 259 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: Trying to say that includes imposing these type of teriffs, 260 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: and the majority said, no, that's not a regulate. Imposing 261 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: taxes is not a regulation. It is distinctly different. The 262 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: descent said, you have the power to regulate, you have 263 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: the power to impose taxes, okay, And then the three 264 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: of the justices, uh, yeah, basically, and that being being 265 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: Chief Justice Roberts right writing the decision, basically said this 266 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: also goes into what they call the major Questioned doctrine 267 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: that the Court has developed. Basically, if there is a major, 268 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: major issue and the question is whether Congress actually empowered 269 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: the president or an agency to do something, Congress has 270 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: to be clear, not ambiguous about it, that they are 271 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: clearly giving this significant power to the agency or to 272 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: the president. And they said, ah, it's not as clear 273 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: as it needs to be, right, So well, and then 274 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: what hopefully that was simple and hopefully that was simple 275 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: on the thumb thumbnail sketch. 276 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: It is it is, uh, And frankly, and put my 277 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: cards on the table. I didn't really pay a lot 278 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: of attention to this because it's just not something that's 279 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: an exciting issue to me, a very very very important issue, 280 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I leave it to smart guys like 281 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: you to figure these things out. But what you're talking about, 282 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: I think judge correct me if I'm wrong. President Nixon, 283 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what year, but obviously sometime during his 284 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: term he from what I'm reading, he did something very similar, 285 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: went to the Supreme Court. 286 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: Supreme Court affirmed it. 287 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: Then Congress enacted this International Emergency Economic Powers Act in 288 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, which I guess, and I haven't read it, 289 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: I guess kind of does what you were just talking about, 290 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: basically laying down the law if you will, that this 291 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: is Congress's purview, right, you know. 292 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: On the basis that the and the Court seemed to 293 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: be a little skeptical as to whether there's really created. 294 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 4: Was it a quote unquote emergency under the Act to 295 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: necessitate its implementation? Even right the emergencies was either the drugs, 296 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 4: the flowing of drugs into this country, or the significant 297 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 4: trade deficit that was occurring with the country and our 298 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: trading with our foreign partners. 299 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: You know, the problem is these acts that Congress passes. 300 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: They're very broad in general, right. 301 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: They really don't give good parameters what is an emergency, 302 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: what's not right emergency? 303 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: And so that's how we've operated, especially since. 304 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: You know, the New Deal age, and I think the 305 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 4: Supreme Court, not in this case, in other cases recently, 306 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 4: has really been more constraining and saying, you know what, Congress. 307 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: You've got to step up to the plate. 308 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: Congress, right, you know, for forty for sixty seventy years now, 309 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: we've had Congress kind of really abrogate its responsibility to 310 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 4: legislate and kind of throw it off onto these administrative agencies. 311 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: Right now, I get it. 312 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: You know, if you're going to give them power, you've 313 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: got to be clear what power you're actually giving to them. 314 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: These agencies. 315 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: He's unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, can't be in a position to 316 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: start changing the wall just because. 317 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: Congress didn't want to make the tough decision. 318 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because you're just you probably 319 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: had an occasion to rule on something like this as 320 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: a common please trial judge. Aren't courts generally very I 321 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: don't know, kind of lenient, I guess might be the 322 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: right word on whether something is quote an emergency or not. 323 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, city council seem to me just about every 324 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: damn thing they do they declare an emergency. 325 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: Courts. Courts are pretty uh lenient on that. 326 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: Are differential. They're differential. Yeah, they're defferential really to the 327 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: legislative bodies and the other bodies of government, you know, 328 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: not to be second guessing. 329 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: You know, uh, you know. 330 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 4: What happens in Ohio with the municipalities. If they pass 331 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: legislation as a quote unquote emergency, then it is not 332 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: subject to referendum. People can't go out get petitions and 333 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: ultimately vote on it. And so you get a lot 334 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: of governments, a lot of municipalities passing legislation by quote 335 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: unquote emergencies. And the court just said, you know what, 336 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: We're not going to go in and start second guessing 337 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: the legislative determination. 338 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: Is this an emergency? Is this not an emergency? They said? 339 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: The courts say, the resolution there is elections. 340 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 4: You don't like all these emergencies or city councils declaring 341 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: get a new city council, gotcha? 342 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: So and you know that's you don't want court. 343 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: The problem is, you know, on the other hand, though 344 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: you we seen more recently with the Trump administration, all 345 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 4: these federal judges coming in micromanaging, really, what are clear 346 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 4: executive powers? You know what the trying to regulate ice 347 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: officials of how they what they can do, what can 348 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 4: they use, what force they can use they can't use, 349 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 4: and you know, second guessing the administration. Sure, a lot 350 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: of these liberal judges and you know, and the conservatives 351 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: have been decrying that as well. And yeah, we don't 352 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 4: want that happening either. So someone it's good for the deuce, 353 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: is good for the gander. But I think at the 354 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: end of the day, it is the right, uh situation 355 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: that you don't want. We don't want a government of judges, understand. 356 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: You know, if if we have got judges ruling and 357 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 4: making the decisions, both the executive, legislative and judicial decisions, 358 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: we don't have a republic. 359 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: We don't have separation of powers anymore. 360 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you this. 361 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: If you are so inclined to opine on same, do 362 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: you think this was the right decision? And if you 363 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: want to take a dive on that, I understand. Oh 364 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: let me let me use the caveat. 365 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: I have not had the full opportunity a thread one 366 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy pages. 367 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: I got you, and that's that's fair enough. 368 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: But I think it is I think it is a 369 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 4: subject up to fair debate. I don't think it was 370 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 4: so one side it one way or the other. 371 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: Gotcha, Hey, are you surprised though, by the breakdown? I mean, okay, 372 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: for the descent you got. You got the Chief Justice, No, 373 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: that's he's in the majority. But you got the three. 374 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: Kavanaugh, Thomas and Justice Alito? 375 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: Alito? 376 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, were you? 377 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: Were you surprised by that? Because those those are Trump people, 378 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: if you will. 379 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 4: Well, those were the descents. They wanted to uphold the tariffs, 380 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 4: right right, So you know, so that didn't surprise me. 381 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 4: And you know what, and honestly, the fact that the 382 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: Chief Justice and Amy Komy Barrett went against the president 383 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: on this, uh, not too surprising. 384 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we knew where the three liberals were gonna end 385 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: up on the court. 386 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 5: You know. 387 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: Justice Gorsage I think was a tuss up unfairly. I 388 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 4: think he's he's got enough of an independent streak. Not 389 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: that they none of them don't, But I just think 390 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: Gorson is probably the most independent of the justices and 391 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 4: kind of the striving you know, I think they strive 392 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 4: to get the right answer. But the break let me 393 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: say that it's the breakdown that the sets and three 394 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 4: that the sendate didn't surprise me that they came out 395 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: where they did the three Liberals where they came out 396 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 4: there and surprised me in fact, that comp Parrot and 397 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 4: Roberts came out this way. No, Gorciach, I couldn't have 398 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: guessed either way. I could have seen them going either way. 399 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how many times I've heard Chucky 400 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: Schumer say every time a decision that's unfavorable to the 401 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: Democrats and or the Left, which are the one and 402 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: the same, you know, oh, we got to pack the court, 403 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: we need more justices, blah blah blah. I would venture 404 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: to guess, judge, you're not going to hear any Republicans 405 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: saying that now. And it just goes to show that, 406 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: like yourself, I was a judge, you check your politicals 407 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: at the door, and you divide the case and decide 408 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: the case on the law, And that would appear that's 409 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: what they did. 410 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: No, and lawyers can have disagreements on the law, you know, 411 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 4: it's not that it's all every decision is a nine 412 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: oh decision. 413 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: Now. 414 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: Surprisingly, what most people don't realize is this a significant 415 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 4: number of decisions from the US Supreme Court are unanimous decisions, right, 416 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 4: but we never hear about that. 417 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, that's right. 418 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this and then we'll move on 419 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: to what we were supposed to talk about. 420 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: I heard some. 421 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Expert or whatever referring just a couple hours ago to 422 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: how are they going to pay this money back? And 423 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: the estimates I've seen is anywhere from one hundred and 424 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: forty to one hundred and seventy five billion dollars. Do 425 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: you have any idea how they will do that? Because 426 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: that could take years. 427 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: Well, well, but one point is the Supreme Court did 428 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 4: not address that issue. Okay, how convenient, how convenient to 429 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: rule one way, and hey. 430 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: What happens there? 431 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: It happened, right, So they did not obviously did not 432 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 4: address that that. That's the next issue. It's gonna be 433 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: you know, worked out in the lower courts. It may 434 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: work the appeals again, but yeah, there's gonna have to 435 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 4: be something, some assessment in terms or some figure out 436 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: figuring out how you know, these people, these companies that 437 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 4: have paid the the teriffs, you. 438 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: Know, can they do it, and you know, and I'm 439 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 3: not sure. 440 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: And the other question may be, is are there other 441 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: ways to justify these terrors? Right? We looked at the 442 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: way because this was a statutory question, was a question 443 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: of what does the law provide? And so some of 444 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: these terrafts may have been imposed other than through this 445 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: act that the. 446 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: President relied upon. 447 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: Here, I got you and trying to. 448 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: The lawyers are gonna be the lawyers are gonna be 449 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 4: busy for the next several years. 450 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: On this question. 451 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and of course you know they won't forget 452 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: the bill either, you know, absolutely, let me ask you 453 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: this last question. I lied, I did have one more 454 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: question about this thing. I mean, where do you see 455 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: it going? I know it's over because it's the United 456 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: States Supreme Court, But and again Trump has said he's gonna, 457 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: he's gotta He's got a workaround thing. 458 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: How do you think it eventually ends up? I mean, 459 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: it is what it is at this point. 460 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, you know, And you know, and in theory, 461 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: the thing that to correct the Supreme Court decision when 462 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: it's based upon the statute is Congress corrects the statute. 463 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: You know. 464 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, with the way they operate the filibuster in the Senate. 465 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: You don't even have to talk anymore. You don't even 466 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: have to talk anymore to philibuster. I'm sorry, I'm old 467 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: school for good. Get on the floor and keep talking 468 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 4: and wear them down. But you know now, it's just 469 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: the threat of a filibuster, and that's no way for 470 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 4: the Senate to operate. 471 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 3: So so well, Congress correct the law and enact the law. 472 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 4: No, because you know the Democrats will hold anything hostage 473 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: that might benefit Oh, of course we couldn't have that. Yeah, 474 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: so that's where it goes from here. Yeah, I said, 475 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 4: I think, just think right now. The next stage is 476 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: gonna be the years of litigation trying to figure out, 477 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: you know, what refunds are due, et cetera. 478 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Got you, Hey, we got a couple of minutes left here. 479 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: Earlier in the day, you sent me an article and boll, 480 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: I tell you, I read it, and I said, great. 481 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: Three hundred and three students were suspended from the Prince 482 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: William County Schools in Virginia because they did and unauthorize walkout. 483 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: They left, apparently recording to the story, they left the 484 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: school grounds. Of course, the walkout was I'm sure their 485 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: teachers are fill them full of crap. It was about 486 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: ice and this principal or whoever made the call, they said, 487 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: the hell that we're. 488 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: Going to suspend them. 489 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: Now we've had this locally, I'm sure you know, we 490 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: had Walnut Hills, although I don't think they left the premises. 491 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: I may be wrong. 492 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: Just found out a little bit ago. Uh, North College 493 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: High School had something like this, and there was Turpin. 494 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: I think it was so. I mean, this just happened 495 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: all over the country. 496 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: But I mean your thoughts on that that's not free 497 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: speech in my opinion, no. 498 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: It is not, and that these local school districts. 499 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: I live in the Forest Hill School district where Turpin is, 500 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: you know, and the idiots with the administration, Well, this 501 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: is the students exercising their First Amendment rights. 502 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 503 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 4: Students do not have the right to walk out of 504 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: school in the middle of school and disrupt the educational process. Right, 505 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 4: that is not exercise. And so but you know, we 506 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: get into this, and so you just empower them. Whether 507 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: they leave school grounds or not does not matter. You know, 508 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: you talk about the Prince William County school case. There 509 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: was another there's a video out on Twitter with the 510 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: principal up in I think Pennsylvania basically telling the students 511 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: either get back into class now or you're going. 512 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: To be suspended. 513 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: And the look on these students' faces, they were like terrified, boy, 514 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: what do we do? But you know, but that's it. 515 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: We disrupt the school process. You walk out in the 516 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 4: middle school. There should be consequences, not this enabling by 517 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: the school officials, whether or not they formally ratified or 518 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: they kind of coordinate how you're going to do it. 519 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: That's wrong. The school officials should simply be you're here 520 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: to learn. 521 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 4: You don't stay in school. If you leave, you're disrupting 522 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 4: the school. You're going to be suspended. And the other 523 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: point that I think it gets lost in all of 524 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: this debate is the taxpayers. 525 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: That's right. 526 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 4: We are paying our taxes to have our children or 527 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 4: our neighbors children's educated. We're not paying them for the 528 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: school to kind of help out these social justice protests 529 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 4: in the middle of the school day, right, And there's 530 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: no respect to the taxpayers. You know, So taxpayers next time, 531 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: next time they come for a levee, question, why are 532 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 4: you allowing these pro Why are you not saying students. 533 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: If you want to do this, fine, but you will 534 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: be suspended. Well yeah, I mean, you know what, none 535 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: of that would happen, none of these protests. 536 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, you're right if you look where these 537 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: things are happening. I don't know anything about the Prince 538 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: William School District in Virginia, but I thought I heard 539 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: that even in Wilmington, some school up there they did it, 540 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: North College Hill. I mean, these aren't necessarily at least 541 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think bastions of liberalism. And you know what 542 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: it is, Judge, because you've been around. It's the gosh 543 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: darn teachers filling the students with all this crap. And 544 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: that's fine, but one thing that they will never do. 545 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: It's just like a college professor. By god, whatever you do, 546 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: don't give the kids both sides of an issue. And 547 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad at least someone seems to be cracking down 548 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: on this because we're seeing a lot of it. Yeah. 549 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there was actually a Jonathan Alder High 550 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: School here in Ohio up north. Their principal came out 551 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: and said, you're going to be suspended if you do it. 552 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: That's the only place here in Ohio that I've heard 553 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: that's happened. 554 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: What they're doing as you're. 555 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 4: Teaching, you're teaching the kids no responsibility or no consequences 556 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: for their actions. 557 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: Yep, Hey, Kurt, we're. 558 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: Out of time. 559 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you so much for calling in, 560 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: and stay tuned. 561 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: The President's going to address this supposedly soon. 562 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: Very good. 563 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. Hey, listen, we got to take a break, 564 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: but interestingly enough, when we get back, we are, unless 565 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: the President decides to talk, We're going to talk to 566 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: a fellow by the name of Josh Hammer about the 567 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: First Amendment and does that trump freedom of speech trump 568 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: freedom of religion? Really thought provoking discussion. We'll do that 569 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: when we get back. Mike Allen in for Willie, seven 570 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: hundred wl W, the Nation station seven hundred w l 571 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: W and Mike Allen in for Willie, who will be 572 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: back on Monday. Let me ask a question here. Wouldn't 573 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: you think that the airlines would guarantee that parents be 574 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: seated with their young kids? When you think that I would, well, 575 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: apparently not all of them here to talk about that 576 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: and many many other things. Is I Heeart aviation expert 577 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe, Jay, thanks for joining us. 578 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 6: Anytime, my friend, anytime. 579 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I wanted to ask you first day traders. 580 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: You got a dreat day trading student over there in Rome, Italy? 581 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: Is that person over there for the Olympics or yeah? 582 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: I think he is. 583 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 6: And he sent me a picture today saying, hey, Jake, 584 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 6: this is my view today as I use Wall Street 585 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 6: is a business for an hour or. 586 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: Two, so beautiful. 587 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 6: I've got students all over the world, and when it's 588 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 6: really cold here they send me those annoying warm pictures 589 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 6: for retribute and in other places, and I'm like, come on, 590 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 6: stop that. But yeah, it's great that we can. We 591 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 6: can do what we do from wherever we choose to be. 592 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: Brother, that's right, that's right. Sounds like it's going good. 593 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 4: It is. 594 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 6: And as long as people follow the rules, my students, uh, 595 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 6: you know, keep me from being too stressed out there. 596 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: You go. I hear that. 597 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, what is the deal with kids? I thought 598 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: for sure that would just be automatic, that they'd see 599 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: them together. 600 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: You talk about little Toddler. I guess, yeah, yeah. 601 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 6: The you know, when when the Biden administration was in power, 602 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 6: one of the things the only thing that that I 603 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 6: liked what they did was they really tried to hold 604 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 6: airlines accountable with regards to some of the customer service standards. 605 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 6: And once President Trump was elected, which I was thrilled 606 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 6: to see, you could see a lot of that starting 607 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 6: to slacken, where some of the accountability was kind of 608 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 6: pushed back and and really bothered me because you know, 609 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 6: the airline is lined up to donate I think it 610 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 6: was a million dollars apiece to the Trump Inaugural Fund. 611 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 6: Even Boeing was standing in line with their million dollars 612 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 6: as well, and I'm thinking, oh, I just don't like 613 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 6: how this looks. But there is a story that's gone viral, 614 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 6: and the headline is misleading mic because it talks about 615 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 6: mom and dad and two kids, two small kids that 616 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 6: are flying. They get to the airport and they chose 617 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 6: not to pay for the seat assignments and as such, 618 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 6: you show up and you have the agent take care 619 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 6: of it. It's an automated process with the computer basically 620 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 6: assigned seats for you. Now the problem is if the 621 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 6: flight is full or close to it. Now, remember Southwest 622 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 6: Airlines has assigned seats. Now you show up and if 623 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 6: there's not four seats together, I mean you're going to 624 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 6: be seated in four different spots. And what happened was 625 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 6: the mom and dad and the two kids toddlers are 626 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 6: four different seats. Well, the paars throw fit and say 627 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 6: there's no way that the airline should keep me for 628 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 6: my toddler, and then they demand people on the airplane 629 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 6: to change seats to a commody. Well, there was a 630 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 6: group of people on the plane very understanding said, look, 631 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 6: totally understand, I'll get out of my window seat so 632 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 6: I can sit in a middle seat so you can 633 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 6: sit with your children. Ye, But yet other people saying 634 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 6: time out here. You could have paid a few extra 635 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 6: dollars to make the seat assignment so all four of 636 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 6: you are together. You chose not to do that, and 637 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 6: now you're demanding that I move out of my seat 638 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 6: to accommodate you because you chose not to do what you. 639 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 3: Should have done. 640 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 6: So, you know, it was something that when it was 641 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 6: looked at, it you know, either the parents did not 642 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 6: know this or they really could care less, because that's 643 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 6: what happens. A lot of times they say I'm not 644 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 6: going to pay that, I'll get to the airport and 645 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 6: they'll work it out. Well, you know, sometimes they can't, 646 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 6: and that really becomes a problem. So you know, that's 647 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 6: why sometimes the expectations of people at the airport a 648 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 6: little bit sometimes not as realistic as we would like. 649 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 6: And in this case, look, you know, I don't know 650 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 6: the circumstances, but I do know that you can't get 651 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 6: on an airplane and demand people to change their seats 652 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 6: to accommodate you. Sure, and certainly if you had the 653 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 6: opportunity to make the seat assignments and pay for that 654 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 6: in advance, that's exactly what you should have done. 655 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 3: But you know, this is the type of. 656 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 6: Story that people that are not liking Southwest Airlines moving 657 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 6: to assigned seating. This is the type of story that 658 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 6: they push and try to make go viral because it's 659 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 6: kind of the shot across the bow saying, see, I 660 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 6: told you Southwest shouldn't be going this route. We should 661 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 6: go back to open seating the way it was before. 662 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: No, we should not. 663 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 6: You no longer have twenty nine or forty wheelchairs boarding 664 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 6: ahead of time when of them don't need them with 665 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 6: all their family. You don't have the Black Friday boarding 666 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 6: process where it's a lot more controlled now. And I 667 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 6: like that, And yes, it's going to make Southwest Airlines 668 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 6: a little bit more money, but they're simply doing what 669 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 6: other carriers have done. And look, I'm glad for it, 670 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 6: because they're putting in these freemium seats where you've got 671 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 6: the extra leg room. They may end up throwing in 672 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 6: a first class down the road, And I think all 673 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 6: of these improvements for Southwest are very good things. 674 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, in the case of that. 675 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 6: Story, I certainly believe, at least from what I'm seeing, 676 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 6: I'm siding on the side of Southwest Airlines on that 677 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 6: because the parents had the opportunity to make sure their 678 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 6: family was together and just chose not to. 679 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: And I think from what you're saying, Jay, is they 680 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: will say the ticket wherever you get the tickets. Hey, 681 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, are any of these kids that you're traveling 682 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: with toddlers? Is that the case? Did they actually ask 683 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: them or you got to tell them? 684 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 6: Well, I mean in the reservation, you're going to put 685 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 6: the age of the people that are traveling. But look, 686 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 6: if I buy a basic economy seat on Delta United, 687 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 6: it's out any of them. The typical arrangement is I'm 688 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 6: paying the least amount of anybody on the airplane, but 689 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 6: that comes at a cost. Sometimes I have a carry 690 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 6: on bag that must fit underneath the seat in front 691 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 6: of me. I'm not allowed to put bagging the overhead 692 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 6: storage compartment. I'm given my seat assignment at the very 693 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 6: last minute, which means my butt's going to be in 694 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 6: a middle seat. Most airlines, I'm not even going to 695 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 6: accumulate any frequent flyer miles because I'm paying such a 696 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 6: basic price for my feet. But look, that's the trade off. 697 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 6: Some people are alike. I just wanted the cheapest fare 698 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 6: to get from here to point A to point base right, 699 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 6: and I'm willing to, you know, to sit in the 700 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 6: middle seat and just kind of endure it for two 701 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 6: or three hours because it's going to save me two 702 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 6: hundred dollars. 703 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: Last question on this, do you happen to know what 704 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: the extra fee is for doing that? 705 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: If you don't, that's what. 706 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 6: It depends on the airline, and it depends on how 707 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 6: many people that you've got. But Mikey might be looking 708 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 6: at an extra fifteen to twenty dollars per person on that. 709 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 3: And that's the. 710 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 6: Temptation for depending on the airline. For a lot of 711 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 6: people saying, look, I'm not going to pay that one 712 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 6: hundred bucks for the family. I'll just get there in essence, 713 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 6: throw myself on the mercy of the agent to work 714 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 6: things out and to move people around. Well, I'm sorry, 715 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 6: sometimes that's possible and sometimes it's not. And when you're 716 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 6: in this era that we are now, where those silver 717 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 6: revenue tubes are dispatched on time, regardless of what I mean, 718 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 6: they're gone. The last thing you can do is expect 719 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 6: to show up and delay a departure. It'll be like, Hey, 720 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 6: you stand over here, let's get this airplane out and 721 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 6: we'll work on your problem for the next flight that leaves, 722 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 6: because we're not going to let you delay this departure 723 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 6: because in essence, you showed up at the gate unprepared 724 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 6: to take the flight or with issues that need to 725 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 6: be done. The problem is, Mike, if they've got check luggage, 726 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 6: most of the time that those bags have to come off, 727 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 6: the flight's going to be delayed anyways, because when you've 728 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 6: got to go and find two or three or four 729 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 6: bags amongst hundreds, you're certainly going to delay the flight 730 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 6: big time. 731 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: Hey, I wanted to ask you this Boeing seven eighty 732 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: seven that is a beautiful aircraft. There's a situation now 733 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: where I get the Dreamliner. It's built to detect and 734 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: actually respond to possible turbulence. 735 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: How in the heck do they do that? 736 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: And that's kind of a technological feet, isn't it? 737 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 3: Oh? 738 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 6: Absolutely it is, because when you've got a situation where turbulence, 739 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 6: we can't predict where turbulence is going to be. So 740 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 6: as a result, it's most of the time the crew 741 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 6: flies through it and then they relay it to the 742 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 6: air traffic control who then has the people behind them 743 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 6: climb to a higher altitude or drop to a lower 744 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 6: one so that they can kind of get away from it. 745 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 6: But the Dreamliner has a vertical gust suppression system. In essence, 746 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 6: it kind of monitors the air data around the aircraft 747 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 6: and when it picks up changes in pressure, they actually 748 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 6: have an automated system that coordinates the elevator and the 749 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 6: flaps to try to reduce or dampen the turbulence and 750 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 6: trim the vertical acceleration. 751 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: They call it. 752 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 6: Before it's a vault in the cabin, and the thought 753 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 6: is if they can reduce this vertical motion by sixty 754 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 6: to seventy percent, it doesn't eliminate the turbulence, but it 755 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 6: certainly gives the passengers a smoother ride. And the problem 756 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 6: is it's kind of been a last minute type of thing. 757 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 6: But look, the bottom line is anything that we can 758 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 6: do from a technological standpoint to give people a passengers 759 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 6: a more smooth ride, that's exactly what we. 760 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 3: Want to do. 761 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 6: Now, obviously, you can't detect turbulence from a distance. A 762 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 6: lot of times you have to get right on it. 763 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 6: If it's severe or even moderate turbulence, you're going to 764 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 6: feel it. There's no suppression system that's going to prevent 765 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 6: that from happening, which is why anytime we fly you 766 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 6: always need to keep that seat belt fastened about you because, look, 767 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 6: I have to talk about there's probably fifty times a 768 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 6: year that we have people seriously injured that these people 769 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 6: wouldn't go around the corner to UDF without putting their 770 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 6: seat belt on to get a gallon of milk. But Mike, 771 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 6: they climb onto an airplane's coming five hundred and some 772 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 6: miles an hour, they take that seat belt off first 773 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 6: chance again, And I'm thinking, may you hit some turbulence 774 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 6: where you know you drop fifty or hundred feet you're 775 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 6: going to kissing that ceiling, and that's really something you 776 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 6: can avoid by doing what the pilots do. Just keep 777 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 6: that seat belt fastened, even loosely about you to prevent 778 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 6: any problems in the event, you know that unexpected turbulence occurs. 779 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 6: And again, turbulence by itself is not dangerous when you're 780 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 6: at altitude, although severe turbulence can be described as the 781 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 6: pilots temporarily losing control of the aircraft. But all in all, 782 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 6: it is it's an inconvenience. But you know, if you're 783 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 6: an altitude it's not really that big of an issue 784 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 6: unless you don't have your seat belt on, and that's. 785 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: When it becomes one. Gotcha. 786 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: You know, you and I over the past couple of 787 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: years have talked a lot about Boeing and their problems 788 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: this Dreamliner. Is it pretty much online now? And is 789 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: it thought that perhaps that will turn Boeing around? I 790 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: thought I saw something somewhere where Boeing is doing well. 791 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: Now, oh they are. 792 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 6: They are, in fact for the first time and I 793 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 6: think a decade. They delivered more airplanes to customers last 794 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 6: year than they ever had and coming into this year, 795 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 6: and Mike forgive me because my memory is going to 796 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 6: fail me here. But I think Boeing delivered or took 797 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 6: orders for one hundred airplanes, and Bow and air Bus 798 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 6: maybe took orders for thirty or forty maybe, but I 799 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 6: mean it was almost a two for one. And as 800 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 6: far as airplanes delivered, again, Boeing had a much better 801 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 6: January delivering aircraft than did Airbus. So they are turning 802 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 6: things around, and they certainly have got a ways to go. 803 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 6: But they've got a new CEO that took over. He's 804 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 6: very hands on, he walks the floors, he does a 805 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 6: very good job. But he's been there for just over 806 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 6: a year. And as you see Boeing start to make 807 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 6: some changes, it's great. And you've got more of these 808 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 6: airlines who are given the option what kind of power 809 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 6: planter engine you want to put on there. More of 810 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 6: them are leaning to the GE engines, the gen X engines, 811 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 6: great fuel efficient, ultra quiet type aircraft engines. And that's 812 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 6: great too because now you've got more Boeing airplanes being built, 813 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 6: more GE engines attached to them. Right, look great for 814 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 6: the country, great for the city, great for g e 815 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 6: I love it because they continue to make some incredible 816 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 6: advancements that make aviation more planet friendly because those aircraft 817 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 6: engines are certainly more fuel efficient, and that's exactly what 818 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 6: you want to see. 819 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: Would it be safe to say, Jay Ratt Liffin, would 820 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: you say Boeing is back or they're not there yet? 821 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 2: They're getting there? Fair state? 822 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 6: They may be, Yeah, but I'm scared to say it 823 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 6: because you know, six years ago when they went the 824 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 6: Boeing Max thing, we had two crashes, three hundred and 825 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 6: forty six lives lost by Boeing covering things up. Boeing 826 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 6: promised to learn from their mistakes, We'll never do this again, 827 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 6: blah blah blah, and I believe them like an idiot. 828 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 2: Five years later, a door falls. 829 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 6: Off of a last airline's flight and we find out 830 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 6: they're using spare parts that failed but where they ran 831 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 6: out of parts, and they're putting the best failed part 832 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 6: back on an airplane to keep it moving. We learned 833 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 6: that through a lot of whistleblowers. So I will defer 834 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 6: to answer that eagerly, but it's going to be three 835 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 6: years or so because I need them to. 836 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: Prove that they mean it this time. 837 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 6: Sure, because I believed them last time and it was 838 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 6: like having an old and dear friend you find out, well, 839 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 6: they've kind of been lying to you for the last 840 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 6: ten fifteen years. He kind of leaves a sour taste 841 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 6: in your mouth. So they're going to have to prove 842 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 6: it over an extended period of time before I'm going 843 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 6: to jump up and down on the Hey Boeing has 844 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 6: actually turned it around train. 845 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: There you go. 846 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I gotta this one's kind of a duh thing. 847 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: But not in a year twenty twenty six. I guess 848 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: FAA orders airlines to certify merit based pilot training or 849 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: face investigation. I guess that's a new thing through Sean Duffy, 850 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: the Transportation Secretary. 851 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, and Mike. A lot of it stems from when 852 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 6: United Airlines, who's kind of leading the DEI charge among 853 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 6: the airline industry, they said that they're gonna have to 854 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 6: hire five thousand new pilots and they wanted fifty percent 855 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 6: of those to be women or pilots of color. Which 856 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 6: those are great aspirations, but the problem is women in 857 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 6: aviation is like less than five percent. Minorities is even 858 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 6: less than that. So what you have is United saying 859 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 6: we're going to have a goal for the next the 860 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 6: rest of this century till twenty thirty to hire fifty 861 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 6: percent of our pilots from a pool that is extremely 862 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 6: low as far as the number. 863 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 2: Of available pilots. 864 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 6: So if you're really going to press to make that happen, 865 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 6: and you're running short on your quota, and you've got 866 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 6: a pilot that, let's just say a white guy or 867 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 6: woman that is a white man that has got fifteen 868 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 6: thousand flight hours, and then you've got a woman that 869 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 6: has three thousand flight hours. Both are qualified. But United's 870 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 6: going to say, well, we need to hit our goal here, 871 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 6: so they're going to hire the least qualified pilot and 872 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 6: they're going to go with the woman. And what the 873 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 6: FA is saying, look, just hire the most qualified person 874 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 6: and stop trying to fill these types of things, which 875 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 6: makes great sense. Now United and other carriers have said, 876 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 6: wait a minute, there's no safety issue here, There's no 877 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 6: you know, these pilots are both very well qualified. 878 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: Well, excuse me. 879 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 6: If I can get on airplane A that's got a 880 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 6: pilot has fifteen thousand flight hours or B somebody's got 881 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 6: three thousand, you know which one I'm getting on. And 882 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 6: every time you've got a situation like Sully with the 883 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 6: miracle on the Hudson, or Tammy Joe Schultz, the former 884 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 6: Navy fighter pilot that was a captain of the Southwest 885 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 6: flight that had the engine malfunction and a passenger die 886 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 6: when they got sucked out. These people are incredibly qualified individuals. 887 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 6: Those of the men and women we want on the 888 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 6: flight deck. The idea of hiring, you know, just for 889 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 6: the sake of trying to increase your diversity, which is 890 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 6: a great goal, but if it if it dictates the 891 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 6: direction you take in hiring, that's a bad thing. And look, 892 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,439 Speaker 6: there's a lot of organizations I like the Legacy Flight 893 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 6: Academy in Chicago is one that tries to teach minority 894 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 6: kids that the wonders of aviation in hopes that a 895 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 6: lot of those will get involved in aviation and become pilots, 896 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 6: because look, the shortage is going. 897 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 2: To be there. 898 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 6: We need as many pilots as we can, and I 899 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 6: would love to see more women and more, you know, 900 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 6: minorities get involved because it's a great aviation field and 901 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 6: the need is going to be there, and we need 902 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 6: to be better represented than what we are right now. 903 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 6: That should not dictate the directions that we make when 904 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 6: we're in the actual hiring process. 905 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 2: I hear you, Jay, Hey, unfortunately we're out of time. 906 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: As always, very very informative and thank you for taking 907 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: time out of your Friday afternoon for us. 908 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 6: Emmie Seim Brother, talk to you later. 909 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you? All right, Yeah, you don't mess around 910 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: with the airline pilot's qualifications. Give me the best one 911 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: that they have. Hey, we got to take a break, 912 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: but we'll be back. Mike Allen in for Willie seven 913 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: hundred wlw O. 914 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 7: Albert Pastor Teller the Fatsmen. 915 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 2: Or over time there the United States. 916 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 5: Let hello, hello, quiet, no skulls, I'm broadcasting. 917 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 2: Oh right, we're seeing some wipeouts there. 918 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're in the finals now, Micah the halfpipe competition 919 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 7: and Largsburg, Indiana's uh Nick Yepper right now sits third 920 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 7: in the finals, so he is yet to make his 921 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 7: final run, so we'll see what happens. He's scoring after 922 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 7: that elusive gold medal there. I think he's got a 923 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 7: couple of silvers and a bronze or two or silver 924 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 7: and two bronze. I'm not sure it can't, but he's 925 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 7: going for his fourth medal in the Olympics, and. 926 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 2: He's right there. A couple of guys have fallen, so 927 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 2: that's not good. 928 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: Sure, that's a big deal though. Man for Cincinnati and Yep, 929 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,919 Speaker 1: perfect North. Do you gotta think he spent some time there? 930 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 2: I can imagine. I can imagine probably lives there. 931 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 7: I think he lives right near there, really, Mike, The 932 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 7: Stoote Reporter is a proud service of your local temp 933 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 7: Star Heating inter Conditioning dealers. Temps are Quality, Kidfield in 934 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 7: Northern Kentucky, Gault, Johnson Heating and Cooley eight five nine 935 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 7: four seven to two sixty to fifty one. Thank you, Roxy. 936 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 7: We also want to thank Lear's Prime Market. They're Lenton. 937 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 7: They're famous, world famous Lenton Fish Sandwich, hands down the 938 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 7: top beer battered Hannock fish sandwich and Cincinnati. Huge portion 939 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 7: served on marble ride, tartar sauce on the side, huge 940 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 7: helping of string fries, simply magnificent. Fifth sandwich available Fridays 941 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 7: through Lent at Lear's Prime Market. 942 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 2: Always a cut above and one of those earlier. I 943 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 2: love Mercy Sandwich. Mercy. Let's see men's hockey. 944 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 7: They were just about rated about twenty minutes away from 945 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 7: USA and Slovakia in the semi finals earlier today, Canada 946 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 7: rally from a two to nothing deficit in the first 947 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 7: period of edge Finland three to two. The Canadian scored 948 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 7: the game winner with thirty six seconds to go, so 949 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 7: they move into the gold medal game on Sunday mornings, 950 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 7: Cincinnati time against either the USA or Slovakia. That was 951 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 7: what you heard there at the beginning was Kenny Albert's 952 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 7: call on NBC of the Megan Keller scoring the thrilling 953 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 7: overtime win yesterday two to one over Canada as the 954 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 7: USA women won gold. 955 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 2: How about that? That was gold? There you go right there. 956 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: Now. 957 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 7: We also want to say May was making his Olympic 958 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 7: debut today. Cincinnati naive of Connor cart Kerran fell short 959 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 7: in the medal round with his two jumps in his 960 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 7: first Arials final on today. He attended sharon Ville Elementary 961 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 7: School Princeton City Middle School before moving to New York. 962 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 7: So Connor Kerran was fifth overall after a couple of jumps, 963 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 7: but didn't make it. Didn't have enough points to make 964 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 7: it to the medal round. But you know, first Olympics, 965 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 7: I just you know, it's not bad. That's exactly right. 966 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 7: So I'm sure he learned a lot. Let's see what 967 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 7: else do we got here. Let's see college basketball. Give 968 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 7: the orchestra a second college basketball and I sold out. 969 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 7: Mallett Hall is the site for the twenty six and 970 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 7: oho Miami RedHawks, hosting Bowling Green at eight thirty tonight. 971 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 7: Reports are the Travis Steele, the Miami head coach, has 972 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 7: been offered a contract extension through the twenty thirty three 973 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 7: to thirty four season. 974 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,760 Speaker 2: Serious chat. They don't want him to go anywhere real well, 975 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 2: you know, don't blame him. We'll see what happens. Let's 976 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 2: see tomorrow. 977 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 7: In college basketball, Cincinnati Bearcats at number eight, Kansas twelve 978 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 7: thirty here on seven hundred, WLW Xavier and Butler one 979 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 7: o'clock on fifty five KRC Kentucky and Auburn at seven 980 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 7: on ESPN fifteen thirty. College football news, Kurt Signetti has 981 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 7: agreed to a new deal with Indiana that pushes his 982 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 7: annual annual salary now to thirteen point two million dollars. 983 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 2: Wow, that's not that's not a surprise. I could make 984 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 2: that work. 985 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 7: Soccer FC Cincinnati's MLS opener tomorrow afternoon against the Atlanta 986 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 7: United at TQL Stadium four o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty. 987 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 7: The Reds open up Cactus League Baseball action tomorrow against 988 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 7: those Guardians. Chase Burns will get to start for Cincinnata 989 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 7: two thirty five of the Ardell Carriers inside Pitch on 990 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 7: Fox Sports thirteen sixty Reds and Mariners Sunday here on 991 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 7: seven hundred WLWA Thank you Hockey. The Cyclones open a 992 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 7: two game weekend series tonight at Iowa College. Action Hawkser 993 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 7: is going to be packed tonight. Mallett Hall is going 994 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 7: to be jammed. Steve Katie Arena, the hockey arena is 995 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 7: going to be jammed as twentieth rated Miami takes on 996 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 7: number four Minnesota Duluth tonight and tomorrow. 997 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 2: Something tells me some beer will be sold at Oxford. 998 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 7: They better yeah, they better have them on trucks just 999 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 7: lined up of twenty seven. Also, the Minnesota Vikings has 1000 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 7: signed former Bengals assistant Kyle Caski as an offensive assistant. 1001 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 7: So Caskie's back in the National Football League. So other 1002 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 7: than that, Mike, I think we got everything going. We're 1003 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 7: just waiting to see what Nick Gepper does this is 1004 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 7: the finals are live on TV, so yeah, we'll see 1005 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 7: what see what happens here, get paid to watch the Olympics. 1006 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad. 1007 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 7: Remember years ago when they were in Japan and all 1008 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 7: that stuff. We us, we used to get hate calls 1009 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 7: in the newsroom for people that you know, we would 1010 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 7: tell them who would win. Okay, they taped it and 1011 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 7: they wanted to watch it that night, you know, and 1012 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,720 Speaker 7: they got all over us. And now forget it. Social 1013 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 7: media you get results like that. I mean, there's no 1014 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 7: there's no waiting around for eight hours or nothing like 1015 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 7: I remember the late great Gary Burbank says, now when 1016 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 7: you do the Olympic reports, turn your radio sideways and 1017 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 7: so you don't know. And I'd go out and tell 1018 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 7: who won, and then he go, okay, you can turn 1019 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 7: it back right side up now, and you know, but 1020 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 7: I don't know. 1021 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 2: Yes, it's the way I mean, it's the way the 1022 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 2: world is today. 1023 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,720 Speaker 1: Well, what I used to like is the reds turning 1024 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 1: down the TV sound and get Marty and Joe right, 1025 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: I go back to Jim and Joe McIntire. 1026 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 2: Jim McIntyre, Yeah, he can't do it now, it's not. 1027 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 7: Sing no no, the TV doesn't worry about radio. 1028 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 2: No, hell no, no. So we're gonna have you know. 1029 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 7: So, I don't know, but it's pretty exciting, you know, 1030 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 7: the with the Olympics and stuff, and hopefully Nick Gepper 1031 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,919 Speaker 7: gets his gets a some kind of Uh, it's gonna 1032 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 7: be one color I hope for mister Gepper here out 1033 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 7: of out of Lawrensburg, Indiana. And maybe one of these 1034 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 7: days they'll put a statue up of him in that 1035 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,240 Speaker 7: fine city. 1036 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,280 Speaker 1: Hey, man, he wins a gold, that's probably what I'll happen. 1037 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: He's going for his fourth Olympic medals. 1038 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 2: Not too bad. When's he up? 1039 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 1: Do you know? 1040 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 7: He's number three on the BIB. I think he's coming up. 1041 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 7: He might be coming up after this guy. Okay, so, 1042 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 7: but there's been a couple of guys that have fallen 1043 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 7: real bad. Yeah, a couple of guys just haven't been 1044 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 7: able to on this half pipe go back and forth 1045 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 7: and twist and turn and everything else. 1046 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: And that just I don't know, it amazes me, seg 1047 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean, just the sheer grace and elegance. 1048 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 2: Thing and doing it. 1049 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 7: The areols were going on this morning and man, and 1050 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 7: they just go down like a half mountain straight, go 1051 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 7: up a ramp and they end up like four or 1052 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 7: five stories high, turning around, twisting around, and then they 1053 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 7: come back down on their skis and I'm thinking, I. 1054 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 2: Know, you're gonna hit hard if you're that high. 1055 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 7: And a couple of those guys went face first in 1056 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 7: but the snow and the snow and those areoals that 1057 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,879 Speaker 7: the where the landing is a soft but still, I mean, 1058 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,240 Speaker 7: you're going face first into the end of the snow. 1059 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 7: That's not easy, and that's not that's not that's gonna 1060 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 7: mess you up a little bit. 1061 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: I would say, So I wouldn't want to take that hit. 1062 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1063 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 7: These these guys would do the flips and the twists 1064 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 7: and the turns. 1065 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't do that. I don't know. I couldn't 1066 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 2: do that at all. I don't know. 1067 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: Do you think we'll ever get to the point where 1068 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 1: we pay the Olympians. 1069 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 7: I'm sure so some countries pay them, you know, because 1070 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 7: you know the model the medals they win. If a 1071 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 7: guy wins at gold and maybe he gets so much 1072 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 7: or a silver or bronze, I don't know. 1073 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,240 Speaker 2: I'm surprised it doesn't. 1074 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 7: They don't have more sponsors in the snow. Yeah, painted 1075 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 7: in the snow and all that stuff. 1076 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 2: They haven't. I don't know. 1077 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 7: I guess NASCAR exactly, but yeah, they you know, the 1078 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 7: Olympics are the Olympics. So it's rather interesting that they 1079 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 7: don't go for the big commercial stuff that they just 1080 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 7: leave it like it is. And then the closing ceremony 1081 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 7: is Sunday. And then in four years they're they're headed 1082 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 7: off to the French Alps real for the I don't 1083 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 7: know what town is going to be in France, but 1084 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 7: the the next Winter Games are going to be somewhere 1085 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 7: in the French Alps. When do we get them? Not 1086 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 7: the Winter Games, but I mean the Summer Games are 1087 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 7: going to be in l A. Okay, that's gonna be 1088 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 7: a that's gonna be nuts. 1089 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. 1090 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 7: You're gonna have to get there at uh, you know, 1091 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 7: stay overnight at one of these ventus, some of these venues, 1092 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 7: just for the traffic and the thousands of people that 1093 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 7: are coming in there. 1094 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: Gavin, I's gonna have to get all the crap off 1095 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: the sidewalks too. 1096 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 7: That's true, you know, right about that. Hopefully no fires 1097 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 7: at all or nothing like that. Goodness, gracious, or earthquakes 1098 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 7: or landslides or anything. 1099 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,959 Speaker 1: It's always something out there. It seems like that's for sure. 1100 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 2: So have you ever seen a ballgame at Shiven's remained? No? 1101 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: Oh man, that's cool. That's what I hear. That's why 1102 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 2: I hear. It's really nice. 1103 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 7: Yep, that the Wallpark's been what fifty some years in business, 1104 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 7: fifty or sixty years in business or something, and it 1105 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 7: looks like and it looks like it looks like it's 1106 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 7: just it was built just yesterday. 1107 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Fenway on my bucket list. 1108 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 2: I've done the Chicago a number of times. Okay, some places, 1109 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 2: some places are real nice. 1110 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I mean la Is, you know, 1111 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 7: probably the ultimate role We're Wrigley Field is too sure, 1112 00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 7: and a few other. 1113 00:58:59,120 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 2: Ones here and there. 1114 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: But you know old Candlestick Park, Yeah yeah, wind blew in. 1115 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, could have been eighty degrees at five o'clock and 1116 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 7: four thirty five at eight. 1117 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 2: So now they hit him into that. What is it 1118 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 2: McCovey cove I. 1119 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 7: Think yep, exactly, people out there in kayaks getting baseballs 1120 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 7: and yeah they might have that well they I don't 1121 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 7: know they if the Reds would have gotten Kyle Schwarber. Yeah, 1122 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 7: I bet you somebody would have been out there in 1123 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 7: the river because he probably would have. 1124 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 2: Put a few in the the good old Ohio. 1125 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 7: It would have cleared, it would have cleared right field 1126 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 7: there and it would have cleared the Marring Way and 1127 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 7: then right into the drink. 1128 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 1129 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So who hit the longest home run at GABP 1130 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: so far? 1131 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm just curious. That was Adam Dunne. He hit that one. 1132 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 7: It was the uh it was the the paddlewheel boat 1133 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 7: wasn't there yet, Yeah, and he hit one that way. 1134 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 7: It bounced off of Marringway, rolled down the public landing 1135 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 7: and about maybe oh, it couldn't have been more than 1136 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 7: maybe two feet away. The ball got stopped by a 1137 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 7: piece of driftwood. 1138 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Oh how cool. 1139 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 7: That's I think that's the farthest one at least, I 1140 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 7: mean it's got to be. I mean he hit it 1141 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 7: completely out, bounced off of Marringway onto public landing. They 1142 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 7: thought it went into the river, but it got there 1143 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 7: was a piece of driftwood there. The ball just hit 1144 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 7: probably no more. It couldn't have been more more than 1145 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 7: one or two feet away from the water. 1146 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 2: So somebody recovered it they. 1147 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 7: Went down there and found Oh yeah, I think they 1148 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 7: got it probably. I think they got it in the 1149 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame. Wow, Red's Hall of Fame down he 1150 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 7: was a monster man. 1151 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 2: Well you're not kidding. He could hit he could hit him. 1152 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 7: So we're just kind of waiting around and see what 1153 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 7: old Nick Dick Kipper does at thirty one years old. Here, 1154 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 7: so he should be uh yeah, I think this is 1155 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 7: him here. 1156 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 2: There he is. 1157 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 7: We'll see what happens with the play by play here, 1158 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 7: we'll see what We'll see what happened. I don't know 1159 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 7: what he's doing. He's twisting turns at uh that that. 1160 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 7: My back hurts every time these guys start doing this stuff. 1161 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 7: So it amazing, you know, but it's really, it's really 1162 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 7: But he's sitting third right now. So he's got a 1163 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 7: he's got a bronze medal. So let's see if he 1164 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 7: can maybe keep. 1165 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 2: That or get one a little higher. There you go, 1166 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 2: if you can get a good, a. 1167 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 7: Perfect run here and steal that gold medal away for Lawrenceburg. 1168 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: He looks determined. There he goes. You got the call. 1169 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 2: He's leading it out. 1170 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 7: So we'll go down the half pipe and see what 1171 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:45,919 Speaker 7: old nick does here. 1172 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, but that looks like 1173 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 2: it's pretty good. 1174 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 7: Here comes another one, clicking around about six seven times. 1175 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Keep on it now he's looking good, man, looking real good. 1176 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 2: There you go. I think he's got one more to 1177 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 2: go backwards. Uh oh, look like he turned Oh ouch. 1178 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 7: Oh man, he hit right off the top of the 1179 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 7: h the half pipe. 1180 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 1: That's gotta hurt. I I've never seen anybody do that, 1181 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: seen him white. I hope he's okay. He looks like 1182 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: he is. 1183 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 2: Damn boy. He had a perfect run too. 1184 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: It sure seems like it. Oh what a heartbreaker is this? 1185 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 1: He's slow getting up here. 1186 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 7: Well, he took a hit right on the edge of 1187 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 7: that half pipe, like if you've got like a like 1188 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 7: like he got it right in the Uh yeah, guys. 1189 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 2: They're bringing out a stretcher. 1190 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Foul man. You know, you know more about it me, 1191 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: But that that run looked good until that. 1192 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 2: Looked really good. Man. He hit hard. 1193 01:02:53,680 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people are concerned here. Oh no, so yeah, 1194 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: they're taking them off on the sled. 1195 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 2: Here he comes up on the top of the half pipe. 1196 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 7: He just doesn't look like he gets he gets the 1197 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 7: height and everything, but does loses where he is and boom, 1198 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 7: his uh his knee is his knee hits on top 1199 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 7: of the half pipe, and is the rest of him 1200 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 7: hits on a little bit of the the of the 1201 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 7: just at the just at the edge. 1202 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh good, he's standing up. 1203 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 7: So well, let's see he needs some help to get 1204 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 7: it and let's see what are they gonna do here? 1205 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 7: He's walking off there, he goes, all right, they're good, 1206 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 7: they're tough. 1207 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 2: Mike say, does he get another shot? Or is that? 1208 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 2: This is it? This is the finals. He's done, that's done. 1209 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 2: Just to be there, boy, that was something else. 1210 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:57,439 Speaker 4: Wow? 1211 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: And when if that's his girlfriend and wife. 1212 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 2: Looks like he's okay, looks like he's okay. 1213 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 1: So yep, all right, listen, we are out of here. 1214 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for that that call. 1215 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 2: Sack Dan Mike. 1216 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 7: We everybody have a good weekend, go USA. We leave 1217 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 7: you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report. 1218 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 5: The Highway Patrol story next week is a very unusual one. 1219 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 2: We hope you'll be with. 1220 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Us until then. 1221 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 2: Remember the clowns. 1222 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 6: At the circus are real funny, but on the Highway 1223 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 6: their murder. 1224 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 2: This is Robert Crawford saying, see you next. 1225 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: Week, profound, profound, yes, sir. All right, well listen, we're 1226 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: out of here. I'm back tomorrow for Saturday midday, nine 1227 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 1: to noon. Will He's back on Monday. Mike Allen's seven 1228 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: hundred WLW