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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. Follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Mark Madden X. The Steelers don't know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: The owner arn't Rooney, He's a Mark and Omar Kahn

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Speaker 1: ain't no football guy.

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Speaker 2: He's a bean counter. That's what's at the root of

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Speaker 2: all this.

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Speaker 1: Rocky Blyer, the all time great Steeler Vietnam Warvett, turns

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Speaker 1: eighty today. I'm proud to call Rocky a friend. Glad

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Speaker 1: to see he's keeping on keeping on. He's in good health.

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Speaker 1: I see him at Jimmy Kintelberger's my physical therapist on

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Speaker 1: Saturdays once in a while. So happy birthday to Rocky Blyer.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Jenna Harner and Shelby Casessi. Jenna promoted a

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Speaker 1: Channel eleven to sports director, the first woman to hold

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Speaker 1: that position in Pittsburgh TV, shall be promoted.

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Speaker 2: To full time at the station.

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Speaker 1: To quality performers and good for them.

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Speaker 2: Lou Holtz passed away. That was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Somebody called him a legend on Twitter, and Keith Oberman,

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Speaker 1: who was totally unhinged, called Holts a legendary scumbag. Keith

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Speaker 1: Oberman really does need help. In fact, I'd skip right

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Speaker 1: past help and go to the straight jacket, like we

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Speaker 1: talked about a moment ago. Buffalo made that big trade,

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Speaker 1: but Pareco declined to go to Buffalo six with six defensemen,

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Speaker 1: pretty good, inconsistent offensively, sixteen goals last year and only

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Speaker 1: won this year. But maybe Pareco did Buffalo a favor.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought Buffalo is close enough to make

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Although you hear they're also talking with

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis about Robert Thomas the center.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes the best deal is the one you don't make.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the case with Buffalo not getting Parako, although

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they were gonna give up. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the Penguins will make a big deal. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they need to. We'll see how it plays out. Toronto

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Speaker 1: traded Nicholas Roy the center, pretty good third line type

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Speaker 1: of guy to Colorado. That'll keep Trocheck for moving there.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is likely his best bet, but maybe not because

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Speaker 1: Billy Garrin, the Minnesota general manager, reportedly says that what

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Speaker 1: New York wants for Trocheck is too much. And I

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Speaker 1: think Vince would be happy to go someplace and win.

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be okay staying in New York as well,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the Penguins get him. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen, but if it came out of nowhere, it won.

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Speaker 2: One thousand percent surprised me.

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Speaker 1: And the Penguins don't necessarily need to make a deal

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Speaker 1: at the deadline at all, let alone a big one.

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Speaker 1: You look at the deals that Dupas has made. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it don't always got to be at the deadline to

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Speaker 1: change your team. Look at chinakof who we got a

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Speaker 1: couple months ago. And Arthur Shiloffs, who gets to start

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Speaker 1: tonight and go for the Penguins.

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Speaker 2: He's done great. He's awful on shootouts, but he's done great.

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Speaker 2: You know what I find out.

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Speaker 1: I wondered after watching that Seinfeld episode where George becomes

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Speaker 1: Latvian Orthodox in pursuit of a women. I wondered if

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Speaker 1: if Shilloffs was Latvian Orthodox. And I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I read the.

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Speaker 1: Latvian Orthodox Bible. They just don't think the shootout's important.

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Speaker 1: It's part of their faith. Blake Lazatte back in the

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Speaker 1: lineup tonight. That's good for the Penguins. Penguins against Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Hear all the extra right here on the X. Or

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Speaker 1: you can come watch the game with me at Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Brewing Company just off for twenty eight. That's in Creighton.

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Speaker 1: I got a ton of giveaways, including a bunch of

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Speaker 1: USA Hockey stuff. Before we go to break, let's talk

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Speaker 1: to Tommy Radio Tom John Smith get it cut is

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Speaker 1: not a surprise, I guess.

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Speaker 2: But who failed here? Were the Steelers as affected him?

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Speaker 3: I think there's a bit of failure on both sides,

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Speaker 3: but I think the Steelers more so failed him, failed

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Speaker 3: Firemoth as well, and have been failing Friarmuth for a

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Speaker 3: couple of years. And I wouldn't be surprised if John

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Speaker 3: new Smith goes somewhere else and plays decently well next year.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think there's a fit for him here

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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh anymore, because there's going to be one tight

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Speaker 2: Of the time.

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Speaker 1: How could there not have been under Arthur Smith? He

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Speaker 1: was such a great quai this tight ends guru and

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Speaker 1: dropped the ball with John U dropped the ball with mouth.

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Speaker 1: The only guy he got any good out it was

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Speaker 1: the fat kid, and that was mostly just as a blocker.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to look at Arthur Smith's tenures

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. OHC is just an utter embarrassment or.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers just bullied him as far as that was concerned,

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Speaker 3: and he didn't want John Smith on the field for

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Speaker 3: whatever reason. Didn't like Pat Friarmuth, like the big fat

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Speaker 3: going six to seven linemen. You started seeing that around

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Speaker 3: the league after we did that, Get the hell out

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Speaker 1: Well, Rogers thinks that everything reflects on him and has

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Speaker 1: to do with him, and he, like we talked about yesterday,

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Speaker 1: he talked about the under use of fire mouth. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're the guy that could have changed that, got him

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Speaker 1: on the field more, got him more targets, but you

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Speaker 1: didn Aaron Rodgers is a Carnie grifter bs artist, and

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Speaker 1: I get more tired of him every time he opens

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Speaker 1: his mouth. And he opened his mouth a ton on McAfee.

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Speaker 3: And then as far as the usage are concerned, now

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Speaker 3: the tight ends. Matt Williamson, our football grew, retweeted this

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Speaker 3: out when he was in Dallas when McCarthy threw the ball.

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Speaker 3: There was one tight end on the field seventy six

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Speaker 3: percent of the time, so you don't need three of them.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Smith, I think is lesser than Pat Fryarmouth. I

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Speaker 3: think Arnold Washington's going to be out of luck too.

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Speaker 3: He'll be in minimally, but not to the extent that

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Speaker 3: he was last year. It'd be interesting to see how

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Speaker 3: Rogers handles that if he's back, which he will be.

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Speaker 2: You know what I heard.

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Speaker 1: I heard a tape of McAfee trying to beat around

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Speaker 1: the bush asking Rogers if he was going to play

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Speaker 2: But it was so wimpy and spineless.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was like, well, gee, you know McCarthy and

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Speaker 1: that offense, are you comfortable?

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. You know what that traces back to.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if the punter has the number one

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Speaker 1: UH talk show in sports, he's gonna be afraid of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. He's gonna be thinking that I'm only a punter.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't be talking to the quarterback. How Mealy mocked

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Speaker 1: was that? I mean, like I watched Pat interview people.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe anybody thinks that crap's any good absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It's not just with Aaron Rodgers and that example that

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Speaker 3: you brought up that was extreme, it was, but all

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Speaker 3: the time, that's how he really sets up his questions.

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Speaker 3: It's like he's kind of answering his own questions throughout them.

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Speaker 3: Anybody that's a great interview you you know, Dan Patrick,

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Speaker 3: Howard Stern. It's short, it's short, and like I said

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Speaker 3: you first, it's short and sweet. Right, you got to

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Speaker 3: get to the question right away.

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Speaker 1: And you're not afraid of the guy. He's a direct

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers asked the question. There was a really good

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Speaker 1: description of the patch showing awful and ansting.

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Speaker 2: It said.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't interview people. He doesn't really do sports talk.

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Speaker 1: He just brows out with his bros. And that is

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Speaker 1: something that America wants, which is to America's detriment, and

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Speaker 1: not just when it comes to sports talk.

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Speaker 2: We got a jam Pack show today and.

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Speaker 1: One thing, if I said this, Tom, you know, I

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Speaker 1: always thought Pat show sucked. Okay, But when we were friends,

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Speaker 1: I didn't say it. And now that we're not, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell the truth. And I feel ashamed that I

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Speaker 1: cut him slack. You know, when we were friends, because

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Speaker 1: that's just as awful as my profession gets. But it's

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Speaker 1: also as successful as my profession gets. So hey, good

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Speaker 1: for Pat. I'd rather do it my way. We got

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Speaker 1: Josh Joey today, we got Paul Seiss, we got Steve

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Speaker 1: burn in studio, and we got Jenna Harner the new

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Speaker 1: sports director chen O eleven. It is one heck of

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Speaker 1: a day at sea here on the Mark Madden Show

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Speaker 1: one oh five ninety.

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Speaker 2: X Tonight at home.

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Speaker 1: If you can't make it to PPG here all the

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Speaker 1: with me at Pittsburgh Brewing Company just off Rout twenty

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Speaker 1: eight in Creighton Big Big Screen TV. Tom Dubus is

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to Malkins agent later, as in not right now,

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Speaker 1: which is what malk once a decision. Now, how is

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Speaker 1: Gino going to react?

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Speaker 4: I hope he reacts the right way.

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Speaker 3: And the only time he really spoke about it publicly,

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Speaker 3: I guess he'll be asked about it now moving forward,

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Speaker 3: so we'll have to speak on it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But just just don't rock the boat too much. Just

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Speaker 4: just get to the end of this season.

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Speaker 3: And I really really hope the booboo face doesn't trickle

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Speaker 3: over onto the ice because he's had such a phenomenal year.

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Speaker 3: He's gotten to a point where I think a front office,

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Speaker 3: as you said, wouldn't even want to entertain this at

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 4: Now almost has to.

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Speaker 1: He's got to a point where the notion of bringing

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Speaker 1: him back is reasonable yet. And I would bring Gino back,

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Speaker 1: as I've said, but there's no reason for the peng

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Speaker 1: was to decide now. And I know for sure that

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Speaker 1: keeping Gino passed this year was not part of the

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Speaker 1: plan moving forward until he played like he did, So

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Speaker 1: the logical thing to do is what see if he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Kyle touched a little bit on

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Speaker 3: that too in the GM Show last night where he said,

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Speaker 3: you know, a big part of a player at this age,

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Speaker 3: it's not just like you can get to the halfway

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Speaker 3: point of the season. You can't just get to you know,

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Speaker 3: has to be a bodies of work. You have to

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Speaker 3: see how that full season and hopefully the playoffs worked

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Speaker 3: for you. And then I feel like Gino wants to

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Speaker 3: play right, There's no question in his mind. This isn't

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Speaker 3: like I let me see how I feel after the

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Speaker 3: season ends, a notion like maybe I will hang it up.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if you have to wait for that,

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Speaker 3: but it kind of seemed like how I was, like

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Speaker 3: time's beneficial for both parties.

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Speaker 1: I think Gino's going to wind up playing four or

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Speaker 1: five years in the cave woo, you know from Metal Urge,

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Speaker 1: after he's done in the NHL. What's hard for marks

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Speaker 1: and fanboys to understand is, you know, the nerds with

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Speaker 1: their number seventy one jerseys, even producing like Gino is

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Speaker 1: doesn't make reupping him automatic. He's thirty nine. It's rebuilding.

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Speaker 1: It's not fantasy hockey. And nostalgia has to be a

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Speaker 1: minimal factor. Like if you make the playoffs but go

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Speaker 1: out in five games and Gino has faded by then,

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Speaker 1: that's enough reason to not keep them.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and something I.

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Speaker 2: Own if you collapse and missed the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And something I keep going back to that you have

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Speaker 3: brought up before is it's always beat better to take

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Speaker 3: a gamble and inject on a player a year too

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Speaker 3: where he's not gonna be as good as he was

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Speaker 3: this year. Next year, maybe he drags you back a

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Speaker 3: I mean business absolutely, But as long as that doesn't happen,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, he'll be a Penguin next year.

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Speaker 1: Quietly Sid's going to have a say. Although I would

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Speaker 2: Why would he even do that one year at a time?

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Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, you did earn it because

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Speaker 1: If he if he makes a stink over not getting

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Speaker 1: I'd drive him back to Middle Urge magneta Gorsk whatever

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Speaker 1: kind of souring on. Tom is the notion that Gino

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've always treated Gino like a cartoon character

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Speaker 3: then what's his name?

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Speaker 2: No, what was his name, Uri Herdina that they brought

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Speaker 3: No, it's the play on the ice and the chances

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Speaker 1: Now tonight versus Buffalo seems like a big game. You

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Speaker 3: And we said at the beginning of the week they

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Speaker 4: So no question about it. Tonight, it's a massive game

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Speaker 1: I'll be in Vegas to support him, Tom and to

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Speaker 1: Tom as I said at the top of today's program,

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Speaker 1: Andrew McCutchen signed a minor league deal with the Texas Rangers.

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Speaker 3: Then he's just like, hey, I guess I'll just go

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Speaker 1: Manim for playing elsewhere if the Pirates don't want him,

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Speaker 3: to mend that fence when it is all said and done,

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Speaker 3: Because the Pirates will accept it no matter what. They'll

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Speaker 3: be like, Yeah, they'll have Andrew McCutchen day, because that'll

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Speaker 1: Sit I think if Andrew McCutchen doesn't accept kind of

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Speaker 3: And like there's nothing for him there. You're right, So

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's a chance that cut Cuts needs

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Speaker 2: Does he does?

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Speaker 4: Does he ride the bus?

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Speaker 3: Like that would be insane for a former MVP to

438
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Speaker 3: instead of hanging up to actually ride the bus.

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be kind of funny. Now, the Rogers

440
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Speaker 1: stuff on McAfee is sunk in. It was like ninety

441
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Speaker 1: five percent Horseman. Or he is clearly going to keep

442
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Speaker 1: stringing along the Steelers like he did last year, and

443
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Speaker 1: something that Rogers wants more money because he said the

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Speaker 1: Steelers hadn't made an offer.

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Speaker 2: Do you sense that.

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Speaker 3: I do think he's gonna want more money, But I

447
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Speaker 3: don't think that that's the reason why he's going to

448
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Speaker 3: string them along. I think he's stringing them along because

449
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Speaker 3: he likes the attention of it, and he likes to

450
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Speaker 3: be in the spotlight like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, here's a guy who claims that when he's

452
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Speaker 1: done with football, he'll be what he said, Kaiser sows

453
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Speaker 1: that he's going to disappear, you'll never hear from the chance.

454
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Speaker 1: Yet he commissioned a documentary on himself and he's dated

455
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Speaker 1: nothing but famous women.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way that he's just going to fade

457
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Speaker 3: away into darkness, as he would like everybody to think

458
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Speaker 3: once he retires. So he just likes the attention of this.

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Speaker 3: I love too that you heard the same thing last

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Speaker 3: year with the Schefters and the Rapp reports. Remember like

461
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Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, Oh this is coming mid March

462
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Speaker 3: this time, it's not going to be as long.

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Speaker 1: Because that's coming from Rogers's camp again in the interest

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Speaker 1: of stringing the Steelers along. If I'm the Steelers and

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Speaker 1: if they've not made an offer, which is what Rogers

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Speaker 1: basically said, to which Pat should have said, did they

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Speaker 1: make an offer or not? But but Pat's just not

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Speaker 1: gonna But if I'm the Steelers, I wouldn't make an offer.

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Speaker 1: I'd want to know if Rogers definitely wants to play

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Speaker 1: before I talk contract.

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Speaker 2: Why would you waste time offering when you're not when

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Speaker 2: you don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But it just sucks completely that they're held hostage once again,

475
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Speaker 3: as legal tampering is gonna start on Monday. The new

476
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Speaker 3: league's gonna start on Wednesday, and Kyler Murray's of the

477
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Speaker 3: world are gonna go somewhere else, and someone's gonna strike

478
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Speaker 3: a trade with a mac Jones, who's kind of an

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Speaker 3: interesting option that I've seen thrown out there, and.

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Speaker 1: They rather have mac Jones, Rogers, anybody who's younger. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have mac Jones than Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: If you could strike that trade with San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's just gonna be other options that are

484
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Speaker 3: more attractive that are just gonna go by the wayside.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be deals struck that you're gonna go, Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's not that expensive.

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Speaker 1: The more attractive because people out there will debate that

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Speaker 1: out the Yin Yang. You're gonna be stuck with Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Stuck with with well Will Howard at this point starting

491
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Speaker 1: to look good just because of the either or either

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Speaker 1: find your guy out of nowhere or you go three

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Speaker 1: and fourteen and draft arts.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think it'll be as good as you're

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Speaker 4: stuck with Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: If Rogers does spurn yet mid May, Jeff Lacco, like,

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Speaker 3: I think you got to go to even further fun.

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Speaker 3: Cousins is going to go somewhere, Like I bet you

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Speaker 3: Minnesota might kick the tires on Cousins, some old familiarity

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Speaker 3: there and bring him in because there just seems to

501
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Speaker 3: be no interest as far as courting Rodgers is concerned there,

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Speaker 3: and Cousins isn't insane as far as being a person

503
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Speaker 3: is concerned. So it's easier to deal with.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers look so spineless again. Why won't the Steelers

505
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Speaker 1: walk away? You're not walking away from prime time Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: you're cutting ties with Grandpa game manager. And keep in

507
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Speaker 1: mind that Scarps Guy pointed this out on Twitter. Ben's

508
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Speaker 1: last two years were better than Rogers's. You know, these

509
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Speaker 1: past two years in courtings one with the Steelers. But

510
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Speaker 1: yet they made Ben quit and they're just hanging on

511
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Speaker 1: Rogers's every word.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why they won't walk away.

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Speaker 3: I think they had an easy excuse to say, like, oh,

514
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Speaker 3: there's just not that much out there that we like,

515
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Speaker 3: but that changed completely with Tyler.

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Speaker 1: It's really good at being a bully, which is what

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Speaker 1: he's doing when he does interviews like yesterday's. Whereas Ben

518
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Speaker 1: was the king of passive aggressive. Then again, maybe that's Rogers' game,

519
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Speaker 1: too passive aggressive, because he said almost nothing yesterday but

520
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Speaker 1: still got a few things through.

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Speaker 3: I mean, people are gonna say that this is wrong,

522
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Speaker 3: but Murray is, without a doubt, a better option than Rogers,

523
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Speaker 3: and you believe that as well. So because of that

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Speaker 3: now becoming a thing, it makes absolutely no sense that

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Speaker 3: they're not at least entertaining it or threatening that Rogers, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we're going to walk away if you don't decide by

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Speaker 3: this weekend to pursue others.

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Speaker 1: Well, Rogers actually said, and I quote, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens as we get into free agency. He kind of

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Speaker 1: declared himself a free agent. You talk about reading between

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Speaker 1: the lines. I don't think Minnesota is interested. But when

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Speaker 1: I hear Rogers say that, I think he's still angling

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Speaker 1: for Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Angling for Minnesota or maybe anything else, just any other

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Speaker 3: options that's out there that could possibly present itself that

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Speaker 3: he would maybe think is better than the Steelers situation.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just weary of all this. I'm weary of

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Speaker 1: Rogers fool me twice. Shame on me, and show shame

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Speaker 1: on the Steelers. Omark constt wouldn't be this way again

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Speaker 1: with Rogers, and it is.

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Speaker 4: It's exactly the same way.

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Speaker 3: And now I am wondering if this is gonna go

543
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Speaker 3: through May right like towards the end of May June

544
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Speaker 3: again with you.

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Speaker 2: Don't have a sack between them? Then again, what only

546
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Speaker 2: had seven?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna I put it this way,

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Speaker 1: My deadline would be the start of free agency. No,

549
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Speaker 1: it would be the start of campering on Monday.

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Speaker 4: It should be like Saturday. It should be like this weekend.

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Speaker 2: And it's not gonna happen by the chances.

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Speaker 3: No, no, there's no way Sunday at the latest. Yeah,

553
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Speaker 3: midnight on Sunday. You better tell us if you're playing

554
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Speaker 3: or not. They just are sure he's playing.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: I do think that there's a little bit of an

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Speaker 3: assumption done or maybe like a wink wink, nudge nudge,

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Speaker 3: where they feel like McCarthy's had, like, yeah, I got

559
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Speaker 3: the thumbs up, but we can't say it yet.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 1: I think McCarthy got the job because that was the

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Speaker 1: best bet to bring back Rogers. I wonder if they'd

563
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Speaker 1: have Buyer's remorse about hiring the fat guy from Greenfield

564
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Speaker 1: if Rodgers didn't come back. The course, he said yesterday

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Speaker 1: that the Steelers would be embarrassed to have a different

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback for a sixth year in a row, beginning

567
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Speaker 1: jerked around by Rogers.

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Speaker 2: That's no less embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: No less embarrassing, and in fact I would find it,

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Speaker 3: even though it would be your six different starting quarterback,

571
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Speaker 3: just to pull the example of Kyler Murray extremely refreshing

572
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Speaker 3: because there is a chance that there could be some

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Speaker 3: future there and he's just the modern age quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He's young, he's mobile. I just would love to see

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Speaker 4: that this year.

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Speaker 3: So sure, it's the sixth quarterback in whatever many years,

577
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Speaker 3: but it's at least something new and different and potentially

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Speaker 3: moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Rogers is nothing.

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Speaker 2: Who going to start a quarterback for the Steelers in

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Speaker 2: Week one?

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Speaker 4: Rogers?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think it's Rogers too. I think yesterday

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Speaker 1: on McAfee was showbuz. I think he already knows.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers know no, but I think no, no.

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Speaker 1: I think they might have a hunch, but I don't

588
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Speaker 1: think Rogers just said, hey, just play along with me.

589
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Speaker 1: And if he did say that, you know, play along

590
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Speaker 1: with me, I'm definitely playing then the Steelers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is such a logo in distretch they should turn

592
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Speaker 1: an upside down on their helmets.

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Speaker 3: I just also don't think, you know, the wife thing aside,

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Speaker 3: he would be, you know, work out like he said

595
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Speaker 3: he was. If he wasn't planning on at least coming

596
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Speaker 3: back and trying to play another season, Why would you

597
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Speaker 3: do that as you just recently retired.

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Speaker 1: He won Aaron Rodgers just some guy at singles night

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Speaker 1: at the local tgif nobody want to bang him. This

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Speaker 1: one read's critical mass when Rogers hasn't decided, and Murray

601
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Speaker 1: and Willis both signed elsewhere and mac Jones gets traded elsewhere,

602
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Speaker 1: and then if Rogers says no, it's Rudolph for Howard

603
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Speaker 1: or an oldie moldy like Cousins or Carr or Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: If Rogers ain't decided by the time those names were

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Speaker 1: off the board, then no matter what he does, it looks.

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Speaker 3: Utterly foolish completely, and I think we're headed down that

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Speaker 3: path again. And there was elements last year where it

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Speaker 3: looked foolish, right, like remember when the limits, Remember when

609
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Speaker 3: the Giants pulled out.

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Speaker 2: And he was then equivocally full.

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Speaker 3: They signed Jamis and they signed Russ and it was like,

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Speaker 3: we're pulling the shoot on Aaron Rodgers were done with that,

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Speaker 3: and the Vikings were like, yeah, we're good, We're gonna

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Speaker 3: move forward with JJ McCarthy. And you were just desperately

615
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Speaker 3: sitting there waiting, like staring at him, like please pick us,

616
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Speaker 3: We're the only one left, and then he finally did,

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Speaker 3: and it just feels again like the same. This is

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Speaker 3: the Steelers in a nutshell though, right, the same movie

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Speaker 3: over and over again.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Junior High Dance the kind of okay

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Speaker 1: looking girl is staring across the gymnasium at the starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback and he just ain't gonna decide.

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Speaker 2: Tom, what do we have for the trifecta?

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Speaker 3: I got a trifecta that has to do with the

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Speaker 3: Penguins and the Sabers matchup tonight.

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Speaker 4: Mark some stats that have to pertain to the game.

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Speaker 4: Number three.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows the Penguins since Christmas right sixteen four and four,

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Speaker 3: one of the hottest teams in the NHL. Buffalo is

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Speaker 3: one of the only teams that can claim that they're hot.

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Speaker 3: Done the Penguins since then, They're eighteen to five and two,

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Speaker 3: And I was pretty shocked to find out they have

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Speaker 3: now the most regulation wins in the Eastern Conference. They

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Speaker 3: just passed Tampa.

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Speaker 1: I'm concluding nobody in the leagues any good this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean truly an on Tampa, hind Tampi in the East.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Colorado out West, definitely, and that might be it.

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Speaker 2: That might be the list.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota is close Dallas with ten straight wins right now,

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Speaker 3: you think they're just right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And how about Colorado?

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Speaker 1: Uh In, Dallas and Minnesota all in the same division.

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Speaker 1: Two of those three are gonna be a first round

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Speaker 1: match up. But you know, I'm not one to say

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00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: they should change the playoff format. That's just tough crap.

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Speaker 1: And if I wasn't gonna make the final, I'd want

660
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: to lose in the first round, no doubt about that.

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00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: I like that call. And also as us as spectator

662
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: business department of my team would disagree with it.

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Speaker 3: As spectators, though, don't we want to see Dallas play

664
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: Minnesota and then the winner have to go up to

665
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: play Colorado? Like we guarantee those matchups now with the

666
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: format that they have.

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00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 1: You talk about rivalries, that's how you build rivalries in

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Speaker 1: divisions with teams getting playoff matchups against each other as

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Speaker 1: often as not.

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Speaker 3: Number two and this is a big key for this

672
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: game tonight is in special teams. The Penguins number three

673
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: power play versus the Sabers number six penalty kill. That's

674
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: gonna be a huge key in this game, I think.

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Speaker 2: And the Penguins power play was not great at Boston.

676
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: Well it was. It was rotten. Oh for four, It

677
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: did get some looks.

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Speaker 1: But but like I said, I thought swam it just

679
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: tend to put in the work in goal for Boston.

680
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: Not a Mandy Spectacler says. But the Penguins did hit

681
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: the iron. I think it was three times.

682
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Speaker 3: But like you said, with Boston, the power play, even

683
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: though it's still third in the league, struggled. It needs

684
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: to get back on track. It's a tough team to

685
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: get back on track on. And then my number one

686
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: trifecta stat here, you gotta avoid the shootout against Buffalo.

687
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: They've only been in three, but they're perfect three to

688
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: zero in the shootout and whoever's in that line or

689
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: lucan in they have stopped nine of ten shots that

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Speaker 3: both of them have faced.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got shilloffs in goal for the Penguins' still thanks.

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Speaker 4: He's awful.

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00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: So no matter who's in.

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Speaker 1: Goal for the shootout for Buffalo, it could be, you know,

695
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: a shooter tutor.

696
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: I'd bet on the shooter tutor against.

697
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: But these are actually good shootout goaltenders on top of that,

698
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: so they have to by any stretch of void getting

699
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: to a shootout in this game.

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Speaker 1: The Trifector brought to us by Danny's Petron Hogi's family

701
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: owned and operated since nineteen sixty. That's on Rude eighty

702
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: eight and Bethel Park. Tom here's something amusing. I hate

703
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: the Paul brothers because they're influencers who have who have well.

704
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: Logan Paul not as much because he's in WWE.

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Speaker 1: He's a fake. They specialize in fake and he's pretty

706
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: good at fakes. I give him credit. I don't like

707
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: Jake Paul because he's a celebrity boxer and made boxing

708
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: all about the celebrity not the actual quality. But getting

709
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: back to Logan, I gave him credit. He issued a

710
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: one millillion dollar challenge to fight anybody who's a current

711
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: NFL player one million dollars if they can beat him.

712
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: I think there are a bunch of NFL players that

713
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: could beat him, and I don't think any stars will

714
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: take him up on it because there's too much to risk.

715
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: But if I'm a below the line guy, if I'm

716
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: like a minimum wage guy, I try to kick his ass.

717
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he intends to actually fight anybody, as

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00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: witnessed by his decline when leveon Bell, who does do

719
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: some some you know that that lame mass marginal boxing

720
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Levyon Bell, the former Steeler, accepted Logan

721
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Paul's challenge and Logan Paul on Twitter and I don't

722
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: have it in front of it, but he eviscerated him.

723
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: Said you're not in the NFL anymore and there's no

724
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Speaker 1: money in fighting you.

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Speaker 2: Nobody would care, and.

726
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Speaker 1: Bell fired back, Yeah, you're just trying to not fight anybody,

727
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: which is true too, but boy, what a promo battle.

728
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Speaker 3: No, Bell's right that he's probably just duck in, you know,

729
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: because Bell would probably kill I don't know Bell, who

730
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: knows how about shape Bel's in right now, But it

731
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: is totally funny that he would just put Bell in

732
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: his place, like not you, okay, we're talking about current

733
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: NFL Logan Paul would beat his ass right now. He

734
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: might I think there's a chance Kurt NFL player, though,

735
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Speaker 3: I'd like to see it. And this is a boxing match, right,

736
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: is what Logan Paul's trying to talk about. Okay, man, well,

737
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Speaker 3: I'll give.

738
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Speaker 1: An example as well as James Harrison is I think

739
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: could kill Logan.

740
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Speaker 4: Oh, snap him in half?

741
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder, but you know, people would care about

742
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: James Harrison, an x NFL player, fighting Logan Paul, So

743
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: I wonder if he would issue that challenge what Paul's

744
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: excuse would be at that point.

745
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: But I hope you're right.

746
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: I hope a lower tier, you know, minimum wage guy,

747
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: maybe on a rookie deal that things. I'm gonna be

748
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: done anyway, like throw that out there and just say, hey,

749
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: you want to do this, let's do this. But he

750
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't accept it because there's no money.

751
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: In that Logan Paul.

752
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: He said, the guy he wants to fight, who also

753
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: isn't a current player is Tom Brady. But Tom Brady's

754
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: obviously not going to do that. Now, it's really easy

755
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: to challenge guys you know won't fight. I did that

756
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: when I was like a pro wrestling newsletter guy, you know,

757
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: like just the on the on the fringe, like doing

758
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: like the stuff that they used to mail out back then,

759
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: all the online stuff now for wrestling, like wrestler Zone

760
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: dot com, that sort of thing. I worked for a

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Speaker 1: publication called Pro Wrestling Torch. And when I was there,

762
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: Ole Anderson, who is this old timey, really tough wrestler

763
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Speaker 1: who was whw's booker at the time, he said he'd

764
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Speaker 1: give twenty five thousand dollars to anybody who had the

765
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Speaker 1: guts to get in the ring with them.

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Speaker 2: So I accepted.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a column, you know, for the for the

768
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Torch saying, Okay, I'll fight you for twenty five grand.

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Speaker 1: I want the twenty five grand up front, but I'll

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Speaker 1: do it. And of course he would have killed me,

771
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: killed me, but I knew he couldn't do it. I

772
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: knew TBS and could have let one of their executives

773
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Speaker 1: fight some guy from a dirt sheet.

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Speaker 2: So so Oie, you know, never responded. I got. I

775
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 2: got a letter from Mike Weber, who I later worked with.

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Speaker 1: He was like their media relations guy, saying Ollie couldn't

777
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: do it, and so I reprinted him declining and just

778
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: called him a dirty yellow coward, said he's a fake

779
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: He's always been a fake, never was in a real

780
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: fight in his life.

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00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: I talked to somebody later who worked with Olie.

782
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: He said Ollie was reading one of my articles and

783
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: he was so mad there were tears streaming down his face.

784
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: He was that angry.

785
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: God, Oh my god, he would have wanted to just

786
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: beat you to a pulp in that ring.

787
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: Well you know what couldn't happen to a nicer guy,

788
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: total ahole?

789
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just a piece of no to know Ollie

790
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: was to hate him and he was on my friend

791
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: Arn Anderson's fictional brother but not not blood because alike

792
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: thank Kevin's, although Arn was really tough as well. But yeah,

793
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: so so it's easy to challenge somebody you know won't accept.

794
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why Logan Paul is just gonna keep ducking.

795
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: I think anybody who he he And that's the challenge itself.

796
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: I don't know about anybody, but the challenge itself presents

797
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: like no one would accept it because what NFL player

798
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: is going to risk that and risk his team being like,

799
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: why are you fighting Logan Paul for.

800
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: A million dollars?

801
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: Tell you what he's really good in WB Logan really

802
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: good that's the path where the Paul in the ring

803
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: good promos.

804
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: Not boxing, not the real sport.

805
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: How can you say that when when Jake Paul's making

806
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: I guess tens upon hundreds of millions. It's just I

807
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: don't like it, but it works, kind of like the

808
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: McAfee show one oh five nine The X.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the X everywhere you go