WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 10/4/25

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday.

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<v Speaker 2>A beautiful Saturday morning would be a nice weekend. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>read the weather right.

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<v Speaker 1>Another short show today out of here at eleven because

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<v Speaker 1>of the UC Iowa State game. You see's really impressing

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<v Speaker 1>some people three and one and Iowa State is five

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<v Speaker 1>and oh their fourteenth ranks, So if you see can

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<v Speaker 1>knock them off, maybe they'll crack the top twenty top

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>But before I do anything, I would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Remiss if I didn't think and congratulate my beloved Elder

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers last night beat number one in the state, the

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<v Speaker 1>Molar Crusaders, always a tough opponent. Elder wins the GCL

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<v Speaker 1>South title for the first time in a while. This week,

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<v Speaker 1>Elder was sixth in the state ratings. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that they'll move up to one, but they should move

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<v Speaker 1>up quite a bit. But congratulations to the Elder Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>Big victory at the pit last night. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you for a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 1>Some shocking, at least shocking to me polling that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this week with respect to people's opinion about socialism,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's hard for me to believe when

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<v Speaker 1>I give you these numbers that they are what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me give them to you first and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. This is Gallop, and they measured American's

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<v Speaker 1>opinions of various economic systems, mainly socialism. They started doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>Gallup did in twenty ten, and they've done it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see repeated the question six times since then. Anyway, Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>and independence view capitalism less positively this year, each showing

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<v Speaker 1>eight percentage point declines. In twenty twenty one. For the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, less than half of Democrats forty two percent,

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<v Speaker 1>view capitalism positively, while a slight majority of independents fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one percent still do. Republicans' views not unsurprisingly, about seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent support capitalism. But when you get to socialism, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what really bothers me. Democrats positive view of socialism.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty ten it was fifty percent. It is now

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six percent of Democrats view socialism positively. And it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six percent to forty two percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So and it's I don't know if I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers of among young people are even worse. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's really disheartening when you see that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I ask myself, are we gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>dig ourselves out of this hole?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking about it, it's not really surprising when you stop

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<v Speaker 1>to think that the indoctrination.

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<v Speaker 2>Begins now in grade school.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to be high school and then college, but it

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<v Speaker 1>begins in grade school now, which is not surprising when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a teachers union, actually two of them, who

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<v Speaker 1>could give one damn about students and how they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>at test scores. All they do is get involved in

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<v Speaker 1>political activity. Randy Weingartner, I think she's the president of

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<v Speaker 1>the American Federation of Teachers. I have never seen, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this for a while, I have never

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<v Speaker 1>seen a public statement from her that said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really shocked about the test scores. We're going down

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<v Speaker 1>the tubes and all of that. Never but boy, she's

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<v Speaker 1>there when you want to talk about radical leftist politics.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really, I guess, no surprise that these numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are what they are. These kids they don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>socialism is, they have no idea, and you know, their

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<v Speaker 1>professors when you get to the college level, probably high

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<v Speaker 1>school two are filling their heads with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>crap on it. Here's another just a brief part of

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<v Speaker 1>a poll May twenty twenty five Cato Institute you gov.

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<v Speaker 1>That poll found that sixty two percent of Americans aged

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to twenty nine have.

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<v Speaker 2>A favorable view of socialism.

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<v Speaker 1>So and again, to repeat what they just said, sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six percent of Democrats overall have a favorable.

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<v Speaker 2>View of socialism.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think one of the reasons is, as I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, they don't know what socialism is and they

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<v Speaker 1>never has and you know, the support of socialism in

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<v Speaker 1>spite of the fact that it has been tried and

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<v Speaker 1>it has failed in so many countries. That's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that has me and a lot of other people scratching

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<v Speaker 1>their head. If you want to go down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest example in my lifetime of a

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<v Speaker 1>failure of socialism is the Soviet Union when it collapsed

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety one, Thank you, Ronald Reagan. After decades

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<v Speaker 1>of economic stagnation, scarcity, and political repression.

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<v Speaker 2>It just collapsed of its own weight.

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<v Speaker 1>So there would be an example for you, professor, if

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<v Speaker 1>you dare to teach your kids something like that. East

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<v Speaker 1>Germany which of course was a Soviet satellite. They're gone

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<v Speaker 1>now Germany is united. They had all kinds of economic problems.

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<v Speaker 1>The economy lag behind of course their neighbor then West Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>and they always had shortages and a lack of freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the USSR. That fueled dissatisfaction, which led to

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<v Speaker 1>the reunification in nineteen ninety. Venezuela, which was once the

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<v Speaker 1>wealthiest nation in South America. Their oil dependent economy collapsed

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<v Speaker 1>under socialist policies of Hugo Chavez and Nicholas Maduro. Hyperinflation,

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<v Speaker 1>severe shortages of food and medicine, mass emigration. So probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best example, going along with the Soviet Union. Ninety

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<v Speaker 1>miles off of the Florida Coast is Cuba. Since the

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<v Speaker 1>revolution in nineteen fifty nine, Wen Castro got Batista out

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<v Speaker 1>of office, it's been a one party socialist state period.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The pended for years upon the Soviet Union to help

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<v Speaker 1>them out with food, medicines, things like that. When the

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union collapsed, and actually a couple of years before that,

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<v Speaker 1>they cut them off, and now they are on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>And from what everything that I have seen and read,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they are really struggling. So you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another one. Professor, maybe you can teach your students about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I ain't going to hold my breath. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about indoctrination, in doctrinating these young people to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that socialism is a good alternative to capitalism, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got this.

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<v Speaker 1>From AI view supporting me in doctrination claim, but I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with it. And you know, just for the hell AI,

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<v Speaker 1>about ninety percent of the time I find that they

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<v Speaker 1>give it to you, right, They do give you both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of which I like, but they've been pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, they go on to say, some commentators, often

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<v Speaker 1>from conservative and libertarians think tanks, attribute growing support for

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<v Speaker 1>socialism to what they see g listen to this as

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<v Speaker 1>a leftist bias in education in the media. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that exists leftist bias and education in the media.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's one of the reasons why they talk

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<v Speaker 1>when they talk about indoctrination. The kids suck it up

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't get the true story. With respect to

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<v Speaker 1>the media, there are some that argue that young people

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<v Speaker 1>receive a bias view of economic systems from the media.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>Education critics claim the education system from high school through

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<v Speaker 1>college promotes leftist ideas and fails to provide a balanced

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<v Speaker 1>economic education. I'm going to read that sentence again because

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<v Speaker 1>that is one thousand percent true. Promotes leftist ideas and

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<v Speaker 1>fails to provide a balanced economic education. Lack of soft

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<v Speaker 1>lack of economic understanding. Critics also point to polls showing

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<v Speaker 1>that many young people cannot accurately define socialism or free enterprise,

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting their support is based on a superficial understanding rather

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<v Speaker 1>than a deep knowledge of economic principles. Again, that one

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<v Speaker 1>is one thousand and one percent true. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you get, and that's why I think those

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<v Speaker 1>numbers as are as high as they are, and it

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<v Speaker 1>should frighten people. I mean, you've got the situation with Mondami.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be New York City's next mayor. You

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<v Speaker 1>got Minneapolis, the vice president of their city council is

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<v Speaker 1>a socialist. So you know, again with respect to Mandami,

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<v Speaker 1>he promises to make workers' lives better by raising the

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage to thirty bucks an hour. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want people to make as much money as they can,

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<v Speaker 1>fast food people, whatever. But that's unworkable. I mean, it's popular,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just dumb and it's unrealistic. Last year, you

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<v Speaker 1>remember this, California demanded that fast food workers be paid

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<v Speaker 1>at least twenty dollars an hour. Yeah, of course the

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<v Speaker 1>unions and the politicians cheered that, but and smart people

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<v Speaker 1>knew this. When the companies have to pay beginners even

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<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars an hour, they employ fewer people. Pizza Hut

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<v Speaker 1>they had to lay off twelve hundred people because of

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<v Speaker 1>it over the next year, while other states add a job.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to this, California fast food workers lost jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen thousand of them lost jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's a situation where young people think

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<v Speaker 1>it's good, but when you apply it, maybe not so much. Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, the vice president of the Minneapolis Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>City Council is a socialist.

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<v Speaker 2>She has said, where has socialism? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>She was asked a question where his socialism ever worked?

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<v Speaker 1>She was silent and interminable nine seconds. Finally she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a fine job representing my community. Question where

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<v Speaker 1>his socialism ever worked? Response, I'm doing a fine job

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<v Speaker 1>representing my community.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. I mean, this person is the vice

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of a big city. She doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>George Will call Umn this to who you haven't heard

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<v Speaker 1>much from in a long time, he said, And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people feel like this.

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<v Speaker 2>He says.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants Mondami to win because every years we need

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<v Speaker 1>to experiment and watch it fail. You know, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of with George Will on this. I mean nothing against

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, but I mean, you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to give everybody free bus rides. I think

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<v Speaker 1>free subway rides. That's great, that's fantastic. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to pay for it? New York like California, probably

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<v Speaker 1>not as bad as California. They're seeing a mass exodus

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<v Speaker 1>of people. So I guess if that's what he wants

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<v Speaker 1>and what they want, that's what they're gonna get. But

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<v Speaker 1>they ought to teach it. They ought to teach it properly.

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<v Speaker 1>They ought to teach it fairly. But I ain't holding

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<v Speaker 1>my breath about that at all. Another thing that really

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<v Speaker 1>got under my crawl this week that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about that is the situation with the

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<v Speaker 1>DHS Secretary of Christian I don't know if you saw

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<v Speaker 1>this or not.

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<v Speaker 2>This just shows you the pettiness of the left.

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<v Speaker 1>She was actually blocked from using a bathroom at an

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois government building while all this stuff is going on. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's how petty the left can be. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to prevent her from using the restroom because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like her. And boy, if you're watching that

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<v Speaker 1>mess out in Portland, that's not getting any better, that's

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<v Speaker 1>only getting worse. I mean, it's just it's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>situation out there, and it's a situation where, you know, cops,

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<v Speaker 1>the Portland Police apparently are not covering over on runs

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<v Speaker 1>that the Ice agents have, you know, dangerous runs sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that runs just the antithesis of what cops do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, cops back up cops, whether it's your department

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<v Speaker 1>or another department. But they have been ordered by their administration,

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<v Speaker 1>by the mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not good. I mean, obviously it's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not good for the police, it's not good for

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<v Speaker 1>the public. I mean, it's real simple. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's too simple. We have a federal law that

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<v Speaker 1>prohibits trespassing into our country, period, full stop, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been on the books for a long time, so we've

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<v Speaker 1>got that law, we have an agency, a federal agency,

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce that law.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ICE.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you have a situation where cops, Portland cops,

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<v Speaker 1>will not go to the aid of a fellow police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, they're not called ICE agents, are

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<v Speaker 1>not called police officers, but they are police officers. They're

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<v Speaker 1>enforcing the law. That's a pretty sad state of affairs.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would love to talk individually it is some

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<v Speaker 1>of those Portland cops and see what they think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Something tells me that they're probably none too happy, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's want to rule one for being a police officer

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<v Speaker 1>on the street. You back up your buddies, you back

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<v Speaker 1>up your fellow officers. But you know, not in the

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<v Speaker 1>age that we're in now. I mean everything has been

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<v Speaker 1>stood on its head, and watching some of that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>out in Portland, Antifa is rumored to be at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of it. Trump is trying to put together a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where a conspiracy you can charge them with a

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<v Speaker 1>federal conspiracy. I'm sure the Justice Department is looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when the left doesn't get what they want,

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<v Speaker 1>they riot. When we don't get what we want, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what. We may take it to court, but we

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<v Speaker 1>when's the last time? When's did you ever see a

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<v Speaker 1>group of conservatives rioting about anything? I mean, the obvious

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<v Speaker 1>answer is you haven't because they don't. But again, the

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<v Speaker 1>rules don't apply to many on the left.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize for the kind of disjointed ramp this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't have a lot of time, But I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>main thing I'm taken away from it is these young

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<v Speaker 1>people that are saying they support socialism. Somebody, somehow, somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>has got to teach them, number one, what socialism is

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<v Speaker 1>and number two give them examples, the myriad examples where

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<v Speaker 1>it has failed. But I'm not going to hold my

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<v Speaker 1>breath on that anyway. That's what I think. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what you think. Seven four nine, seven thousand, one,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred, the big one are the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike got nine thirty nine thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Six News Radio seven hundred ufter year w Mike Allen

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Midday got a short show for you. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're out of here at eleven because of the uc

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa State game. At ten o'clock, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Attorney James Bogan. He's going to fill us in

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<v Speaker 1>on some really good developments on men pretending to be

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<v Speaker 1>women in women's sports that's going our way. Probably ask

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<v Speaker 1>him two about p Diddy and the Komi indictment. And

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<v Speaker 1>at ten thirty the final REDS Report of the year

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<v Speaker 1>with davidy armbrus here. Meantime, I want to get as

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<v Speaker 1>many of these calls that I can. Who do we

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<v Speaker 1>go to first? Let's talk to Thomas in Villa Hills. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning, Thomas, Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning Michael.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for taking the call.

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<v Speaker 4>My pleasure a little bit, Leary, and I want your

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<v Speaker 4>opinion on the House Republicans and the Senate Republicans. It

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't seem like they're doing much up there. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>see any great movements on any Trump's executive orders. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>kind of leery like they just kind of want the

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<v Speaker 4>status quote because they don't want to upset the applecart

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<v Speaker 4>that much, and they're more politicians than they are Republicans, And.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think is going on up there?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask you what would you have them do?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they not doing that you think they should be.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have some immigration some of these executive orders

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<v Speaker 4>looked at turning in.

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<v Speaker 3>The falls without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 6>Well knocks like Trump's doing it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you're saying is, let's just take immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be better if he didn't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>that through executive orders, but it's not politically feasible for

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<v Speaker 1>him to do it at this time.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the budget. I know they're going back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth over.

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<v Speaker 1>That, but you know, to me, that's one thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>real simple. The Democrats want a ton of money to

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<v Speaker 1>give to illegal immigrants for medical costs, and Republicans say no,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it seems it seems to me like they almost

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<v Speaker 4>would want to lose the mid terms. They can go

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<v Speaker 4>back to status quo and not hit and much pressure

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<v Speaker 4>on them to solve this, and.

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<v Speaker 6>They can have an excuse like, well, you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of a split House and Senate and we just can't.

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<v Speaker 6>Do do what we need to do right now.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a perfect opportunity for them to stand up

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<v Speaker 4>for the Americans and get something done here, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't see it happening from re elected representatives.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of milk toast.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of status quo.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I see. No, it had done very little.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your point of view. I mean, we do

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<v Speaker 1>have a majority in the House, but just barely. And

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<v Speaker 1>the tradition is the party in power will lose seats

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<v Speaker 1>two years after a presidential election. I hope that doesn't happen, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do have a pretty solid majority in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>not sixty votes, which would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>But I understand what you're saying. I got a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of calls here.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me each you one other thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, if we don't fight back at all with all

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<v Speaker 4>these democratic, riotous tactics and we just keep taking it,

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<v Speaker 4>isn't it just going to continue? Don't we have any eat,

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<v Speaker 4>any strength, any backbone. I'm not saying we hit the riot,

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<v Speaker 4>but right if we're throwing them up front, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to do nothing about you know, we're not gonna write,

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<v Speaker 4>We're just gonna let you have your way.

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<v Speaker 3>When does that stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me do this. I'll answer your question. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your call. I got to get to some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other calls, though. You know, from my point of

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<v Speaker 1>view where I sit, I think things are going pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good right about now, and there's really. One reason and

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<v Speaker 1>one reason only for that is because our president has

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of you know what, he doesn't care. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to do an executive order. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it, take it to court. If it's illegal, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be dealt with in the court system. So I

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<v Speaker 1>understand what he's saying. I mean, I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 1>people do more. I mean, if we could ever get

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<v Speaker 1>sixty senators to break the filibuster, we'd be in great shape.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think things are going pretty well, but I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with them on one point. The midterms are crucial. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep the majority and beef it up in

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<v Speaker 1>the house. Hey, let me talk to let me talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Barry in Miamisburg.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, how's it going today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good man.

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<v Speaker 6>What you got It's a beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 7>I've got two things for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>Positive note, Even the younger twenty crowd knows that they're

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<v Speaker 7>getting screwed by the education system. Do they got screwed?

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<v Speaker 2>Berry? Do you really believe that?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you do, and I think you probably do,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me why because I sure ain't seeing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope that's the case, But why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me let me give you an example. Yesterday, as

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<v Speaker 7>I was buying lunch at a local fish house that

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<v Speaker 7>I won't name. Okay, some of the workers in the

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<v Speaker 7>back line area, we're making jokes about lack of reading

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<v Speaker 7>ability and laughing at it being because they want to

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<v Speaker 7>the public schools. Really, yeah, I mean there comes a

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<v Speaker 7>point where you know you were given eleven and there's

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<v Speaker 7>nothing else you can call it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're right. I really do you know parents

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<v Speaker 1>to what their kids are being taught. I'm sorry, go ahead, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not all of them, I grant you, But you know they.

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<v Speaker 7>Were laughing about it like it was a comedy routine,

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<v Speaker 7>and yeah, they realized that something ain't right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're right about that. I guess in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming years we'll see. But boy, those numbers are frightening.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they are.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know there are nuggets of hope out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, you know, I agree. We just got to

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<v Speaker 2>keep going.

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<v Speaker 7>How do you pick the broken Jack Lanner?

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<v Speaker 2>What? What was that you?

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<v Speaker 7>How do you a broken Jack Lanner?

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<v Speaker 2>Boy? You got me on that one.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's a pumpkin patch.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good and it was clean thanks, Berry, appreciate the call.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty good. Let me talk to Jeff and Zenia.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Jeff, good morning, Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, Mike.

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<v Speaker 7>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to back up your idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Just go through the Wall Street journals last week and

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday they.

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<v Speaker 8>Talked about the rise of the young socialists and what

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<v Speaker 8>they said was dated back to was a two thousand

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<v Speaker 8>and eight financial crisis about how that left a very

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<v Speaker 8>lasting impression on people that were just coming into.

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<v Speaker 3>The workforce as well as looking to buy houses.

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<v Speaker 5>And when the house is.

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<v Speaker 8>Tanked because of various reasons which are still unknown, that's

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<v Speaker 8>where the socialism movement got.

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<v Speaker 2>A big push.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny you mentioned that because I get

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall Street Journal. I read that exact story too,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. I mean, if that's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that they're attracted to socialism, you know, the economy is

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<v Speaker 1>up and down and they need to look at the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture. But I mean, you know what high school,

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<v Speaker 1>college aged kid is going to go out of their

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta get it at the kitchen table. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, the one question that I've always asked

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<v Speaker 8>when I've never been able to get it answered. Is

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<v Speaker 8>you know when all those people with the ninja loans

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<v Speaker 8>and all these people that basically got loans that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 8>had to have PMI. When you have PMI, basically that

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<v Speaker 8>covers you know, the banks from losing money if you

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<v Speaker 8>default on your loan. Right, if everybody had PMI, why

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<v Speaker 8>was there a problem?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question. I don't know the answer

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I don't either.

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<v Speaker 8>I've never been able to get it either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you ever like google it, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what AI I think is pretty good. If AI can't

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>give you an answer and they present both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the story too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give him a shot.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, great show, Michael. Lets you get to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Okay, Jeff, thank you. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Steve. Hey, Steve, what you got man?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Mike, what do you think of that p did

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<v Speaker 6>he verdic?

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<v Speaker 3>What you think he was fair?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the verdict was fair, frankly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, from what I saw, I'm surprised he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>convicted on more. He got four years yesterday. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's got about a year locked up or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Credit judge has to give him credit for that. So

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<v Speaker 1>if that's accurate, he'll be doing three years. And from

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<v Speaker 1>what I read in one account, I forget which one

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<v Speaker 1>he had scheduled. I don't know if concerts or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He scheduled stuff for like next month because he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think he was going to go to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>He thought he'd get time served. Well he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the horrific things that all you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>to know about that guy is just look at the

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<v Speaker 1>video of him beaten the living daylights out of that

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<v Speaker 1>woman in the hall. So I have no sympathy for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be a guest of the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and I think that's appropriate.

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<v Speaker 6>I got a question for you, Mike, Yeah, well what

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<v Speaker 6>about to shut down? What do you think of no end?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I don't know. It's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>game of scare down now. But to me looking at it,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down to one thing, and I think you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get at least a lot of Republicans telling you this

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. The Democrats want to pay. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the figure in front of me, billions of dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>through I guess Obamacare for medical cost for illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 1>The Republicans do not want that in there, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to pay for it. Of course, the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>doing their slight hand on it. And if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans need to hold out, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>think they are. And I think the Democrats, especially Schumer,

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<v Speaker 1>are looking real bad on this thing. And probably the

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<v Speaker 1>number two reason and that this should not be a

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>reason for it, is Chucky Schumer. He's got Aoz breathing

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>down his neck in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's gonna blow him away.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he's got a cozy up to his

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<v Speaker 1>radical left.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just my thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 6>Steve Yes, sir, thank you, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Republicans win the pr war on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know how much farther it's gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully they'll get it done this week. But you know what,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 1>and this might sound selfish, but since the government has

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>shut down, it hasn't affected my life at all. I mean,

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the federal government shutting down. I mean what I think

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of think of all the money that they're gonna save,

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of he opens things for doge to

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<v Speaker 1>go in and look for savings. Yeah, and I like

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>when they say only essential workers have to come to work. Well,

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what is an essential worker?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so far in a PR battle, we're winning,

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>not by much and the Democrats are losing. But we'll

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>have to see. Hey, let's talk to Frank. Hey, Good morning, Franky.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Mike, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't talked to you in a while, sir, Thanks

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 6>for calling, absolutely so I in true form. You all

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 6>just have such great conversations. You have great callers. I

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 6>could speak about a million things with you. But taking

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 6>it back to this ignorance of socialism, I couldn't agree

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 6>with you more. I think the country as a whole

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 6>is kind of confused about what this means. So I'm

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 6>wondering why you and other Republican pundits aren't shouting at

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 6>the sky with the government taking a ten percent share

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 6>of Intel like Trump did, or taking a share in

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 6>the lithium a mining company like they are. Or it

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 6>looks like soybean farmers are getting crushed with his tariff.

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 3>And if you.

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 6>Remember from Trump one point zero, the same thing happened.

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 6>Farmers were getting killed so we cut them a huge

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 6>check billions of dollars. Why aren't we yelling about socialism

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 6>when Trump does it? Because that's a socialist policy.

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 2>And what was your first one that you talked about? Intel?

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<v Speaker 6>We have a ten percent stake in Intel.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know what, I don't agree with that. I'm sorry,

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, we don't need to be involved

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>in that stuff. And I know Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>Where is the outrage about socialism? When Trump does it?

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 6>There's no outrage whatsoever. It's crickets but anything. It's Oh,

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 6>he's a genius what he did, He's a business genius.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>What do you want us to do? Frank, get it

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>in the streets and riot like the other side. Does

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<v Speaker 2>you know? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I rank Sorry, listen, you'll never get that out of

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a liberal ever.

0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I said, I think it's wrong to do that. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you weigh it out with the other things

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>he's done, that scale goes way down. I mean, on

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the side of the good things that he's done. I

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>get it, well, I get it, And there has been

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>some squealing about it.

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 6>But not only you're you're you're you're a free market capitalist.

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 6>But aren't tariffs The antithesis of capitalism, of free market capitalism.

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>They are.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't the protectionist policy. It's protectionist. I don't believe

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 6>that are all people to get from certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, why shouldn't we have other countries be equal to

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>us with respect to tariffs?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't understand the archaistic it's a tax on us.

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 6>Tariffs are attacks on citizens, not on to anybody else.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 6>We're the ones that pay that it triples down to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is the first time I've heard the argument

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that tariff's I know a lot of people don't like him.

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I get that, but that they're socialism, So you know,

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>One more, one more point. I know you've got a

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 6>lot of callers, but you said you know our side

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 6>never right. It's all points you in one specific January

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<v Speaker 6>January six.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me another one, will you please?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, how about the one when our capital was attacked

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 6>because sore losers didn't like?

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<v Speaker 2>Another one? Frank, you can't get.

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<v Speaker 6>The worst one in the history of the country. It's

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 6>the only time our capital is the uh crap smeared

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 6>on the walls and they all got they all got

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 6>part of officer.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to me again. I'll tell you I hated that.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I hated watching that, but it was one occasion when

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you got numerous occasions with the other sides.

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate the call, I really do.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you. Let's talk to uh Keegan. Hey, good morning, Kagan, Hey,

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 2>good morning. Thanks for staying my call.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm calling to respond to the previous caller that just

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 6>got off the line. Yeah, numerous things.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>That are out of day.

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<v Speaker 6>First off, with regards to J six, I love the

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 6>lack of momentary of the now exposed two hundred and

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 6>seventy five FBI eight and somewherebted and all of that.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 6>Plus you have numerous people on the right and even

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 6>the middle that were immediately decrying all of it, alongside

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 6>with the left. So it was obviously a ridiculous thing

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 6>on its face, and you're getting no argument from that. Meanwhile,

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 6>all the BLM riots went, you know, completely unnoticed. I

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 6>guess when two billion dollars worth of damage was done

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 6>to property all around the United States. The other thing

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 6>is with regards to tiff Now, I'm no fan. I'm

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 6>a small business owner which deals with product on both

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 6>the domestic and international fronts. You know, he's mentioning the

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 6>soybean argument as if it's not directly affected by China,

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 6>who is, in all intents and purposes, our enemy. It's

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 6>a reality. They steal our ip left and right. It's

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 6>not like we're dealing with like Certainly, of course people

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 6>on the right are, you know, pro capitalism and free

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 6>market capitalism. But that conversation ends when you're one dealing

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 6>with an adversary and two dealing with an adversary that

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 6>is also not capitalistic and is stealing our property left

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 6>and right. So I think it's completely out of base

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 6>and intentionally, it's almost like guilt biomission. It's intentionally ignoring

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 6>crucial facts that doesn't paint the full picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that sounds like what the left does. Thank you

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>for the call, Kegan, I really do tears. Okay, well

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what he picked me up on that one,

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and everything that he said is right with respect to

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<v Speaker 1>Jay six.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched that.

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I was urinated off at obviously the people there and

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<v Speaker 1>Trump too.

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean I hated it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I asked him about three times, okay, give

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>me another one, Well there isn't because that's not what

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>we do anyway, Well, I got a lot of other calls,

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but again, short show, so we got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get back, we're going to talk to Attorney

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>James Bogan. Now, what's going on in some recent victories

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>in the whole war of men or women pretending men

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>pretending to be women in women's sports.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do that when we get back. Mike.

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.000
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0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen with hour two, which is the final hour

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>today Saturday midday because of the UC game.

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I am out of here in eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I tell you what, there's some good news continues

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to be good news on the whole situation with men

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>pretending to be girls in girls sports. Here to talk

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>about it is a guy that keeps up on it

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about Attorney James Bogan. You can hear him. He's

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>on this channel quite a bit, and he is a podcast.

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>It is a really good podcast called Past the Clock.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I know you can get it on iHeart, and I'm

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 1>sure you can get it on other platforms. James, thanks

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>for calling in this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, thanks for having me.

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Hey, let's start with Bostock versus Clayton County, which is

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a twenty twenty United States Supreme Court case. They kind

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of looked at that and not made changes, but kind

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>of clarified some things.

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Is that accurate?

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 3>That was the case that the Auto Pen Administration and

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 3>wrongly interpreted to say, hey, this means guys should be

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 3>allowed in girls' sports. But if you look at the

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 3>plain language of this opinion, the court expressly stated this

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 3>only applied to discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:52.479
<v Speaker 3>identity and nothing else in the workplace. Right, And they're

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 3>saying they specifically stated it doesn't apply to bathrooms, locker rooms,

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 3>or anything else of the kind. It only applies to

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 3>employment discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity, and

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 3>nothing else. Now, I don't know how you could read

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 3>the opinion in plain English and think it says, hey,

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 3>you should allow guys in girls' sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know how the left is and their attorneys

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>are the same way. They'll take any interpretation they can

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:21.919
<v Speaker 1>to quote unquote win.

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 2>When do you think they'll.

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Interpret two plus two equals sixth that it fits their purposes?

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<v Speaker 1>When do you think they'll rule on the marriage of

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the case, or had they already done.

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 3>So no, they already did that. That's just the case

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 3>for the background, right. But you know what you've got here.

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 3>We've got two big things going on right now. We've

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 3>got that lawsuit by Riley Gaines and the nineteen other

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 3>plaintiffs that was filed in federal court in Atlanta last

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 3>year that just got past a significant hurdle, along with

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 3>that other case that the Supreme Court just took in

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<v Speaker 3>July about law in Idaho in West Virginia that banned

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 3>guys from girls' sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. You mentioned the Riley Gaines case.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that too, James, tell my listeners what happened there,

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and I guess it was a small loss, but a

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty big win in other ways.

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a big win overall. Because the Title nine

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 3>claims against the NCAA's stay, they can go forward. The

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 3>plans can go forward on those because the judge, who

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 3>by the way, is an auto pen appoint he said

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:37.720
<v Speaker 3>that the plaintiffs have plausibly alleged that the NCAA receives

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 3>federal financial assistance and is therefore subject to the requirements

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 3>that Title nine. But some other stuff got dropped, like

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 3>saying that they have not plausibly alleged a violation of

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 3>right to privacy. That's for the guys and girls locker

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.240
<v Speaker 3>rooms part, and some other stuff, I mean, the title

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 3>nine stuff, that's the meat of it, right, But the

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 3>main goals of this lawsuit are to keep guys out

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 3>of girls sports and girls locker rooms and mandatory gender

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>testing because the NCAA does not have gender testing, And

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 3>contrary to the what the left says saying it's gonna

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 3>be invasive genital exams, it's actually nothing more than a

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 3>cheek swab maybe a blood test to test for chromosomes.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 3>They don't look at anybody's junk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, And I'm glad you clarified that part.

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just a situation where they're gonna twist anything to

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:32.439
<v Speaker 1>fit with their narrative. But it looks like that one

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>is going to come to fruition at the Supreme Court

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>at some point, I mean, on the full case.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually, Yes, it will.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any idea when, uh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean right now, it's still in the trial phase,

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 3>so it's gonna take some years. But you have that

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Idaho in wet'st Virginia protecting women's sports laws that are

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Court just took. And the funny thing is

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 3>the plaint if in the Idaho case is now trying

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 3>to dismiss her if. They're trying to dismiss their case

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 3>pretty much because they know they're going to get their

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 3>rear ends whooped when they when they're in front of

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Court.

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>YEP, I get that. Hey, James, I ask you this

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>question every time I talk to you. Are we still

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>winning this battle? It sure sounds like we are.

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 3>We are winning this I mean. The thing. The bottom line, though,

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.919
<v Speaker 3>is here's the underpinning that the far left is trying

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 3>to make everybody forget. When guy someone goes through puberty

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 3>as a male, they gain certain permanent advantages that don't

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 3>go away from hormones and blockers. Yeah, bigger muscles, bigger

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 3>long capacity, bigger frame, stronger tenants, stronger ligaments, more muscle density,

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 3>and you see my better have. Shannon Campbell, she does bodybuilding.

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 3>If she was to start taking steroids, she wouldn't get

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 3>anywhere near to where I am. Because if women take steroids,

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 3>they don't suddenly become as good as men. That's where

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 3>you have to Title nine violation. But if men start

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 3>taking hormones, then they don't beat their ability does not

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 3>regress down the level of women. Men's and women's performances

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 3>differences about ten to twelve percent. And is you've heard

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 3>me mentioned before? Leah Thomas's time in the two hundred

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 3>yard freestyle only regressed by two point six six percent

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>after a year of hormones and blockers, went from being

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 3>number four hundred and sixty five mon college men to

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 3>number one mon college women. I mean, imagine if I

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 3>decided to get on stage and compete against Shannon and

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 3>her bodybuilding competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what, James, Can I tell you something?

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I think she probably I think she probably could take you.

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>She could tell you or me together.

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 3>I think, oh, you know what all she needs to

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 3>do to kick our butts is start singing and we're done.

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:59.399
<v Speaker 3>Remember I told you Persne's medieval torture, I'll put I'll

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 3>add this to it. You know how will Ealy jokes

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 3>about harambe right, if Harambi had not been shot dead

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 3>that faithful day, Shannon would have killed him with her singing,

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.879
<v Speaker 3>and we'd be saying Shannon Campbell killed Harambe.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Hey, buddy, you're gonna get it when you get home.

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 2>You know you better watch.

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh I gave her a head up, but yeah, she's

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 3>still gonna kill me, and you know what, I deserve it.

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Hey, let's move on too. We are gonna talk about

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>the Komy indictment. I'll tell you one thing, James, and

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you if you agree, this is, without question,

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the shortest federal indictment that I have ever seen. I mean,

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's not they didn't take it to the

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>grand jury. I guess it's in the nature of a

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>complaint two pages. Have you ever seen a federal case

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>in anything that is only two pages long in a

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>criminal case?

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 3>Might every drug case I've had in federal course been

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot longer than this?

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it seemed to me there's probably merit to it, James,

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, do you think they'll be able to

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>prove this thing beyond a reasonable doubt?

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 3>You know what they have to focus on the nuts

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 3>and bolts. Did he lie to set the Senate Judiciary Committee?

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 3>And if the answer is yes, focus on those nuts

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 3>and bolts clear through the smoke screen that the defense

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 3>is gonna do. I mean, here's here's the funny thing.

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Komy has always urged prosecuting high level perjury cases. Remember

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 3>he was the lead prosecutor in Martha Stewart's case, and

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 3>he's basically now taking the approach rules for thee but

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 3>not for me. And this thing totally centers around the

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 3>fact that he lied to Congress about his role in

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 3>promoting the Russian collusion hopes, where he was pretty much

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 3>the one who spearheaded it after and you saw evidence

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 3>of that, more evidence of that from that document dump

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 3>that Tulca Gabbert did a couple months back that basically

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 3>showed that Comy was completely spearheading this thing. He's like,

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't care what your investigation says we have. We're

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 3>dissenting from these findings quote based on some new guidance.

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 3>The new guidance was wanting to get Trump.

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It's obvious to anyone that has ever looked into this,

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and even superficially. But again, I just worry about proof

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>beyond a reasonable doubt. Let me ask you this, where's

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the venue for this? Is it DC or somewhere Virginia

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>somewhere or do you know.

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:38.760
<v Speaker 3>It's in Virginia. I think, yeah, that it was that

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 3>that that's the US Attorney's office that's taking it.

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's better than DC, you know what, still not friendly,

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think, you know what.

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're the prosecutors. They're gonna need to focus on

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 3>the nuts and bolts.

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it is pretty simple.

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but again, getting twelve to agree on it,

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and obviously, obviously I hope the man is convicted because

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>he deserves it, you know. And another thing, James, I

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>don't expect you to comment on this unless you want to,

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>because as a lawyer, maybe I shouldn't say it.

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I heard somebody talking about these things one time and

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>says the process is the punishment. I mean, normally I

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say that. But and another, I mean, politics is

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 1>about payback. It's a big part of it. I don't

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>know if you want to comment on that, fine, if

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you will, Well.

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 3>There is something be said about the idea. I'm not

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 3>going to sit there and say you should prosecute him

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 3>because the process is punishment. That's completely improper. But just

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 3>simple maths. Nobody likes being put through the process. Just

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 3>ask our president.

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really, you know, and that's the thing. And I

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>agree with you from a lawyer's point of view on that.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you think about all the crap they

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>put Donald Trump through, and I get a kick out

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 1>of every time one of them starts squealing about something

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>like this. I mean, go back four years, Hell, go

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>back twelve years. And yeah, you peached the man twice.

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Obviously the Senate didn't convict and lord knows how many

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>other criminal cases in civil cases. So from a citizen's

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>point of view, James Bogan, they're getting what they deserve.

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not saying that as a lawyer though,

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 1>but anyway.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me put it this way. I'm not exactly

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 3>wringing my hands about this.

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>But very very very well put Hey, let's talk about

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 1>mister p Diddy. Yesterday, the judge gave him four years.

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he thought that he was going to

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>prison or back to prison. I think he thought that

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>he was going to get time served. I saw some

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>reports somewhere James, within the last day or so where

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>he had gigs and all kinds of so called important

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff up set up pretty close to when he would

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 1>have gotten out if the judge did give him time served.

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he gets it yet, but I

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:11.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know your thoughts on.

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 3>That that is complete where it was completely idiotic on

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 3>his part. Alan Dershwitz waited on this too, saying it

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 3>was a slap in the face and he couldn't imagine.

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't imagine anything more stupid to do before sentencing.

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 3>That's just like when you tell a client these are

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 3>the things you do not say or do before sentencing,

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 3>and they go, gee, I think I'll do all of them,

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 3>and then wonder why they got it work sentence. Now, overall,

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 3>his sense of fifty months, which he'll probably he could

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 3>get up to fifteen percent off and be out by

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 3>April twenty twenty eight is still relatively not a bad sentence.

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the prosecutors were arguing for eleven years to

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 3>try to save Faith for blowing around ten million of

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:57.720
<v Speaker 3>our tax dollars for what was basically a glorified state

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:03.240
<v Speaker 3>prostitution case. And the arguments they used that's sentencing about

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 3>how bad he is and so on for the with

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 3>based on the evidence they presented, which no doubt did

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 3>he's a dirt bag, okay, but you don't convict because

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 3>someone is a dirt bag. And those arguments clearly didn't

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 3>sway the jury on the more serious counts, but they

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 3>open up the door for the defense to have one

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 3>of issue on appeal saying that the court considered a

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 3>quitted conduct. I mean the court can also I mean

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 3>the defense can also argue improper guideline calculation, because I

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 3>bet some months back I might have told you this,

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 3>Mark garrett Goes, by the way, whose daughter was on

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 3>the defense game, Mark gerrat Goes, being h you know,

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest names in our profession. He had

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.240
<v Speaker 3>calculated something to maybe about a year and a half

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.879
<v Speaker 3>or so. And that's what I'm thinking.

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Of it.

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, that's somewhere in that range. Yeah, he

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 3>was calculating something like that. And you know, but I

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 3>have a hard time, would have a hard time believing

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 3>that the judge did not consider that. Did he arrange

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 3>these stupid speaking engagements. He should have been focusing on

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 3>showing remorse. Yeah, the only thing he should have been

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:19.359
<v Speaker 3>focusing on.

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:23.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, And you described probably the most I guess

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 1>agreedious thing with defense attorneys visa VI their clients when

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you tell them that don't do this. Don't do that,

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 1>you'll piss the judge off. Don't do this, and they

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 1>do it anyway, then they squeal when they don't get

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 1>what they thought they should have gotten.

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 2>It's just very frustrating.

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh you know, I'll just go out in a personal

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:46.839
<v Speaker 3>store on that. A couple of years ago, I had

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:50.320
<v Speaker 3>a client in Warren County who they had a gun

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 3>case and he fired it and he's sitting there saying

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 3>stuff like he was happy with what he did, and

0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 3>he was playing to get another gun and basically completely

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 3>put his foot in his mouth, topped his wing into prison.

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 3>And even my lock up client who was at the

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.399
<v Speaker 3>defense table what I got done, was watching us think

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 3>that was horrible. But even another inmate says, you're horrible.

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know how bad it is.

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean again, they pay you a good coin for

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 1>doing that. They ought to listen to what the heck

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that you say I did? Here mentioned this morning on

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>some report that he's planning on appealing. You mentioned James Bogan.

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You can appeal the guideline calculation. And just for listeners

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 1>who don't know the federal guidelines in a federal criminal case,

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>there are guidelines that the court. When it first came out,

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they were mandatory. They are now advisory, but they're still important.

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the chances of appeal on

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 1>that issue in any other issue?

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 3>You know what, I'm take a look and see what happens,

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:05.760
<v Speaker 3>because overall, he got a pretty good sentence.

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 2>He sure did. I think he sure did.

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:11.399
<v Speaker 1>He got to take that four years and run and again,

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he was locked up about a year, wasn't he.

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and yeah, with the time off for good behavior,

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 3>he could be in for only maybe another two and

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 3>a half years.

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what. They don't think that way.

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the guy, the guy dodged a big

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 1>old bullet. And you know, sometimes you just got to

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 1>shut up and take what you're what you're given when

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it's obviously a fair and, if anything, a light sentence.

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 2>But I appreciate your should.

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 3>He should stop buying baby oil and mass quantity too.

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's probably got a lot left he can bring

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 1>to prison with him, though.

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 2>James appreciates your playing in with us.

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Bill.

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, you're certainly welcome, Mike. It's always a privilege.

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you, thank you, Mike.

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, James, Bogan talking about P Diddy's case.

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, the guy got off pretty darn light,

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>so he ought to quit his whining and complaining do

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.439
<v Speaker 1>his time. I don't know what kind of setup he's

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:16.399
<v Speaker 1>got up in prison there, but federal prisons. I'll tell

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you what I've been in federal and local, not local

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 1>state prisons. They are compared to a state prison. It's

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 1>like the holiday inn. So he probably ain't hurting too

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>bad in there. Hey, we got to take a break

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:34.359
<v Speaker 1>butt when we get back. The last Reds report of

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the season with our man David he Armbusher. Got a

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of questions for you, and we'll do that when

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:44.879
<v Speaker 1>we get back. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. Hey we're

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 1>back Mike Allen, Saturday midday. Well, obviously, the red season

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:55.800
<v Speaker 1>ended this week with two playoff losses to the LA Dodgers.

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Just to give you an idea of how they did,

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:02.279
<v Speaker 1>and this is according to a the batting stats for

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, Reds hit two fifty their batting average eleven

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:12.320
<v Speaker 1>hits at sixty four at bats. With respect to pitching,

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a lot better than that, but

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't able to check it. Anyway here to talk

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.280
<v Speaker 1>about it as our guy for all things Cincinnati Reds.

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 2>David Dye, Arm Brewster, yid your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a bummer that had ended the way it ended.

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 5>It really is, because they had a good season and

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 5>then you go into LA and you get beat and

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, both games were decided before the game was

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:40.920
<v Speaker 5>even halfway old. That was that's the meat, just the

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 5>bummer part of it that they couldn't you know, couldn't

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 5>score enough early to keep that game in check, either

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 5>one of them, you know, and it just it's it

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 5>kind of hurts. I was really disappointed with the out

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 5>hunter green Head. Yeah, you know, you only end up

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.359
<v Speaker 5>going three innings and giving up five runs and three

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 5>home runs, and those were just killers. You know, the

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.799
<v Speaker 5>lead off home run to o Tiny That doesn't bother me.

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 5>That's fine, it's going to happen. But then he gives

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:07.959
<v Speaker 5>up too in the next inning or the third inning,

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:11.239
<v Speaker 5>whatever it was, and it just that just took the

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 5>air out of the balloon right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it was butterflies? He was nervous?

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:18.320
<v Speaker 5>I hope not. I mean, that guy's pitched in a

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's getting paid a lot of money for

0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 5>a reason, right, I think I think everybody that goes

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 5>in there, as I would imagine, it's a little bit nervous.

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 5>But after you throw that first pitch, all that stuff

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 5>better go away, or you know, you're not a professional.

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 3>So I don't.

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it was that. I don't. I guess

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, his pitches where where they can hit him, basically,

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 5>So you know, that was just that was just disappointed.

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.880
<v Speaker 5>Tell that a little better than night next night, but still,

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, not enough. You got to hold that lead,

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 5>especially given the fact that the Dodgers' bullpen is not

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 5>very good. I don't think this team's that team's going

0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:58.279
<v Speaker 5>to go along and as good as they can hit,

0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 5>that bullpen is very hittable, and the Reds proved that

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 5>in that first game.

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, you look at the twenty twenty five

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 1>season stats.

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Not too bad.

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Pitching, well, that's not that good. Eighty three seventy nine

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:16.919
<v Speaker 1>wait minute stopped. Oh, they finished one to eighty three,

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:22.479
<v Speaker 1>lost seventy nine, fourteen games behind the Brewers. Okay, the ninth,

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five batting average, two forty five, sixteen

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 1>home runs, they're twenty first out of thirty on that

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty six home runs six hundred and

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven RBIs right in the middle of the pack.

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 2>But pitching, this won't surprise anybody.

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>They were twelve out of the thirty teams with a

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 1>three point eighty six ERA. And you know that pitching

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 1>staff is strong.

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 5>It is strong. It is strong. What it is not

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:55.640
<v Speaker 5>is healthy. I mean, if those guys would stay healthy

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:59.720
<v Speaker 5>the entire season, every one of them, Hunter Green missed

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 5>whatever two months, Habitt was out for a little bit,

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 5>Lodolo had the problem on his on his index finger.

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.399
<v Speaker 5>Brady Singer, he was the star because he's the one

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 5>that went, you know, the longest, in the deepest, in

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 5>every game. You pitched a lot of it and he

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 5>didn't miss a start. And those end up, man, when

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 5>you're when you're starting pitchers are missing you know, three

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:23.839
<v Speaker 5>or four, five, six starts. That's a lot considering you're

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:26.720
<v Speaker 5>only you know, if you're if you're healthy the whole season,

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 5>you're only throwing thirty two games anyway, So I mean,

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, you knocked that number down by five or

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:33.759
<v Speaker 5>six and that hurts the team. And I think that

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 5>was part of it. I really do.

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, the blogs are real busy.

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:38.439
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Francona has taken some hits by using lodolo in relief

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, So I guess that would have eliminated him

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 1>as being the starter in game two. I mean, does

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that make any sense to you? And I have no

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 1>complaints about.

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 6>Now I have.

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 5>I have no complaints either, because you have to win

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 5>the game Sunday. You know you you worry about tomorrow tomorrow.

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 5>You don't worry about tomorrow today if you have to

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.879
<v Speaker 5>win this game. So I have no complaints with that.

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean I've heard something where why didn't he keep

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.400
<v Speaker 5>lodolo in and at Uh? I can't remember first or

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 5>second game when and he was pitching, well well, I

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 5>mean he pitched the day before, so maybe that are

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 5>two days before. Maybe that's the reason I can tell

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:27.880
<v Speaker 5>you this. I'm not questioning uh every move Hanry Francona.

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:29.240
<v Speaker 3>Uh pass.

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 5>The guy has two World Series rings on for a reason.

0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 5>You know there there is, So I'm not going to

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 5>nitpick on every one thing.

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:41.960
<v Speaker 5>The bottom line to all this Reds need better players, Mike,

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 5>They need better players, especially offensively.

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 5>If you if you want to compete. You saw how

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:52.719
<v Speaker 5>deep uh the uh Dodgers are. Now they're never going

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 5>to get that deep because they don't have that kind

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 5>of money. But boy, you got to have some depth,

0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 5>and you got to have some guys that can that

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 5>can hit the balls. And the one home run or

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 5>the home runs that you mentioned twenty first, twenty first

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 5>out of thirty teams in the Great American Ballpark, that's

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 5>that's sinful. You got to be better than that, exactly,

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 5>have to. They have got somebody that can put the

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:15.880
<v Speaker 5>ball over the fence.

0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 2>And we've talked about that odd infin item.

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you see this team doing over

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the break before we go back on opening Day?

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Is there anyone out there?

0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 5>I think there's people out there. I mean, I think

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 5>you can get some of those maybe some of those

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:42.240
<v Speaker 5>young hairs. If you look at like the the the Athletics. Boy,

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 5>they got some nice young bats on that team, and

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 5>they could use some pitching. And you know you're going

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 5>to have to. It's the old saying you got to

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 5>give up something to get something, and I am. I

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 5>am fine with them trading one of the starters. I mean,

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 5>my guess is it's I would probably Hunter Green. He's

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.120
<v Speaker 5>probably gonna bring you the most, So do you do

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 5>that maybe.

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you can get enough for him. I

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 2>hate to see him go.

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>He seems like a real fine young man and he's

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 1>got a hell of a future, I think, despite what

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:15.440
<v Speaker 1>we saw in the playoffs.

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 2>But you got to give up quality to get quality.

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 5>There's no question. And I think that that has to

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.880
<v Speaker 5>happen with this team. And uh, you know you're gonna

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 5>You're probably gonna lose Nick Martinez, he's one of them.

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 5>I think Lattel is probably a free agent as well.

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:32.919
<v Speaker 5>So you're gonna are going to lose some starters in there,

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 5>and then you got a factor in the injuries. I mean,

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:39.040
<v Speaker 5>I know we talked about it when Abbott struggled in

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 5>the second half, when Lott Dola was down. You really

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 5>you can't have enough starting pitching. So maybe they think otherwise,

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 5>Maybe they think they can't afford to get rid of

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 5>Hunter Green or one of the other starters. But I mean,

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 5>you've got to score some You can't win if you

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.240
<v Speaker 5>don't score rounds, and this team has to have some power.

0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the blogs too, there's one from my think Thursday.

0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>It is in the blog red Machine Drew Cook six

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Reds players who definitely won't be back in twenty twenty six,

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and he lists, let's see, I want to make sure

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I get it right here. He lists Nick Martinez is one,

0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Santiago Espinal, Zach Lttel. Who are the other ones here?

0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Sam Maul, Austin Hayes, and Wade Miley. Your thoughts on that? Yeah,

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 1>do you see those guys going?

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 5>I think that. I think that's fairly accurate. Wade Miley

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:39.640
<v Speaker 5>may stick around, you know, that might be a mutual

0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:42.280
<v Speaker 5>thing because the Reds did give him a chance to

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 5>come back and gave him a second life, and you know,

0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 5>sat through his Tommy John surgery that he had as

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 5>a brewer, so that he may be around. I'm not

0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:55.080
<v Speaker 5>sure about that. The other ones. For sure, Martinez is gone.

0:59:55.240 --> 1:00:01.440
<v Speaker 5>I think Amelia Pagan is gone. Oh personal, and because

1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:04.960
<v Speaker 5>I I'm not sure his contracts that is. But I

1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 5>think he is a free agent. I think he might

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:09.960
<v Speaker 5>be one of them that is out of here. Now.

1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 5>We'll we'll wait and see. We'll know soon enough. I mean,

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:14.640
<v Speaker 5>it's not going to be very you know, a long

1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:16.560
<v Speaker 5>way off, and they know what's going to happen, and

1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:18.720
<v Speaker 5>I and I would hope that they make some of

1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:20.320
<v Speaker 5>these deals. If they're going to go out and try

1:00:20.320 --> 1:00:22.160
<v Speaker 5>to get a bat day, you know, it's not the

1:00:22.240 --> 1:00:24.080
<v Speaker 5>last minute thing that when they get down there for

1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:28.120
<v Speaker 5>the general managers meetings whenever that is in early December.

1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:30.840
<v Speaker 5>I guess I think you go and go down there

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:34.919
<v Speaker 5>and make some moves. And I also think that Terry

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:37.040
<v Speaker 5>Francine is going to have a bit have a big

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.160
<v Speaker 5>hand and a big say and what they do in

1:00:40.200 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 5>the off season, because you know, he's seen this team

1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:45.560
<v Speaker 5>now for a year. You see him turned the course

1:00:45.600 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 5>of his season kind of molded into what he wants,

1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:50.880
<v Speaker 5>and I think that's just going to continue.

1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, they're crazy if they don't get his

1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:56.640
<v Speaker 1>input into all that stuff. I mean, if you're looking

1:00:56.680 --> 1:00:58.520
<v Speaker 1>for bright spots, and I think there were a lot

1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of them this year, him being at the Helm is

1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:06.080
<v Speaker 1>probably the biggest one. I you know, I'm not smart

1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:08.520
<v Speaker 1>enough to guess second guess him on calls. I would

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:11.440
<v Speaker 1>never do that, but sure seems like he had the

1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:13.680
<v Speaker 1>pieces put together the right way, don't you.

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<v Speaker 5>Think, Oh I do during the course of the year.

1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:19.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he made so many moves that, you know,

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:23.240
<v Speaker 5>during this little things, but you know, you know, he

1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:26.320
<v Speaker 5>started the season with Matt McClean batting up in the order.

1:01:26.560 --> 1:01:28.360
<v Speaker 5>Towards the end of the year, he was batting ninth.

1:01:28.400 --> 1:01:30.720
<v Speaker 5>He finally moved Ellie Daily Cruise out of that third

1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:35.000
<v Speaker 5>spot in new order, and I think, I mean, maybe

1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:37.160
<v Speaker 5>you can say he should have done that sooner. Well,

1:01:37.240 --> 1:01:39.080
<v Speaker 5>maybe he should have, maybe he shouldn't have. I mean,

1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:43.480
<v Speaker 5>Ellie data Cruz is still a really good baseball player,

1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:47.080
<v Speaker 5>but I think little things like that, and once he's

1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:49.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, you got the trades that were made were

1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:52.200
<v Speaker 5>good trades. Key Brian Hayes at third base, you start

1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:53.880
<v Speaker 5>little five things a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:56.640
<v Speaker 5>I think they're still going to figure out what they're

1:01:56.640 --> 1:01:58.240
<v Speaker 5>going to do with South Stewart. Where is he going

1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 5>to play? Because quite frankly, he's a liability defensively at

1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:04.520
<v Speaker 5>third base? So does he play first? When you got

1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:08.360
<v Speaker 5>Spencer steer over at first base, who, if they were

1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:11.480
<v Speaker 5>being honest, should win the Gold Glove at first base.

1:02:11.520 --> 1:02:14.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he will, but that's how well he

1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:16.480
<v Speaker 5>played there. So do you take him off that and

1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:20.600
<v Speaker 5>put him in the outfield? Just a lot of maneuvering

1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:22.600
<v Speaker 5>that has to go on during this off t season.

1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:25.000
<v Speaker 5>But the one thing with Francona, see likes guys that

1:02:25.040 --> 1:02:29.840
<v Speaker 5>can play everywhere. I don't know that I'm a great

1:02:29.880 --> 1:02:31.720
<v Speaker 5>big fan of that, but it seems to work. So

1:02:31.800 --> 1:02:34.360
<v Speaker 5>that's the way the game is gone. And with Spencer Steer,

1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:36.760
<v Speaker 5>that's what you have. You can put him pretty much

1:02:36.800 --> 1:02:37.680
<v Speaker 5>any place you need.

1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Him, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of defensive problems, Elie de la Cruz, I mean,

1:02:41.800 --> 1:02:46.800
<v Speaker 1>what does he do over the offseason to improve with fielding?

1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't check, but I think the last time

1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you and I spoke, he had the most errors of

1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:54.720
<v Speaker 1>anyone in Major League Baseball.

1:02:54.720 --> 1:02:57.320
<v Speaker 2>What do they do? And I love the guy, I

1:02:57.360 --> 1:02:59.120
<v Speaker 2>love him, I love watching.

1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Him, but he's got I get he's got to get

1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:02.320
<v Speaker 1>better defensively.

1:03:03.560 --> 1:03:06.400
<v Speaker 5>Well, my opinion is come opening Day he's going to

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:10.160
<v Speaker 5>be in center field. Really, I really think that. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's I mean, you can put up when I've

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<v Speaker 5>heard the argument after last season, well, Barry Larkin led

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<v Speaker 5>the league, and Harris his first season, well he didn't

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<v Speaker 5>in season number two, and Ellie did, I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>time to move him off a shortstop. Look what it.

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<v Speaker 5>It did wonders for Noelvi Martiete when they moved him

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<v Speaker 5>off a third base and put him in the ray field,

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<v Speaker 5>because his mind was freed up. He didn't have to

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<v Speaker 5>worry about playing third base, and he goes out to

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<v Speaker 5>right field and he's starting now. He slumped a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit towards the end. I get that, but for the

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<v Speaker 5>most part, he pitched, played really well and hit really

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<v Speaker 5>well once they moved into the ray field. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think that can be the same case with Ellie day

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<v Speaker 5>La Cruz. I Mean, the one thing I worry about

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<v Speaker 5>him is he plays so hard. I don't want him

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<v Speaker 5>banging into the wall every other night, you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>and hurting himself. So but I think you have to

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<v Speaker 5>make that move. But defensively, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just way too many errors, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell just by looking at him they definitely

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<v Speaker 1>got to him too. So I mean, I hope that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that they can work on over the off season.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question, you had this year team record eighty three

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine, fourteen games behind Milwaukee. Was it what you

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be better, worse?

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<v Speaker 2>Or where do you come down on that.

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<v Speaker 5>About the same when the season started. I thought eighty five,

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<v Speaker 5>so eighty three they were close, and you give her

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you can swing either way on that because

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<v Speaker 5>you get lucky a couple of games and maybe you

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<v Speaker 5>have those eighty five wins. So I think they were

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<v Speaker 5>right about where everybody thought they would be, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in the division. I didn't think anybody think the Brewers

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<v Speaker 5>would take off the way they took. Oh, I know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know, you just give it another year,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think you can. I mean, I think you

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<v Speaker 5>need to. I think this team needs to shoot for

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<v Speaker 5>you know, eighty five wins won't be acceptable next year.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you need eighty eight to ninety to make

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<v Speaker 5>the postseason. And I think that's what they have to.

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<v Speaker 5>They have to gear everything toward well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, they kind of spoiled us with the

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three and seventy nine. I didn't think they'd do

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<v Speaker 1>that well, but obviously they did well. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that far away from opening day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They open with Boston on March twenty sixth, so we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have too long to go, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll probably be going down in Florida, all right, excuse

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<v Speaker 2>me Arizona.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean the first spring training game is normally

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<v Speaker 5>the third Saturday in or yeah, February, so around the

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<v Speaker 5>twentieth something like that will be the first spring training game.

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<v Speaker 5>And since it's and I'm almost guaranteed it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be against the Guardians, since that's the first game they

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<v Speaker 5>play every year for the past sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they share that they shared.

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<v Speaker 5>Conn Day in February. Will be there and you'll hear

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<v Speaker 5>it live and you'll probably maybe s work over some

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<v Speaker 5>money and come down there too.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that was coming.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny that you've been at someplace.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you, I really appreciate all of your help and

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<v Speaker 1>your wisdom over this past year and looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you again next year.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how much wisdom there was, but I

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<v Speaker 5>appreciate it. I love doing it, Mike. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 5>to you in February.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds good, buddy, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, David d Armbrus, you're on our Cincinnati Reds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you one thing. I probably went to more games,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, yet I paid for most of them. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to more games this year than I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have since the Big Red Machine days. It's a fun

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<v Speaker 1>ball team to watch, it really is, and the ambiance

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<v Speaker 1>in the atmosphere at Great American Ballpark it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>find anything that's better than that. So as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned, very successful season, but as you had said,

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<v Speaker 1>looking for more next year. Hey, I'm out of time,

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<v Speaker 1>so I am out of here. Mike Allen seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>WLW