Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday.
Speaker 2: A beautiful Saturday morning would be a nice weekend. I'd
Speaker 2: read the weather right.
Speaker 1: Another short show today out of here at eleven because
Speaker 1: of the UC Iowa State game. You see's really impressing
Speaker 1: some people three and one and Iowa State is five
Speaker 1: and oh their fourteenth ranks, So if you see can
Speaker 1: knock them off, maybe they'll crack the top twenty top
Speaker 1: twenty five.
Speaker 2: But before I do anything, I would be.
Speaker 1: Remiss if I didn't think and congratulate my beloved Elder
Speaker 1: Panthers last night beat number one in the state, the
Speaker 1: Molar Crusaders, always a tough opponent. Elder wins the GCL
Speaker 1: South title for the first time in a while. This week,
Speaker 1: Elder was sixth in the state ratings. I don't know
Speaker 1: that they'll move up to one, but they should move
Speaker 1: up quite a bit. But congratulations to the Elder Panthers.
Speaker 1: Big victory at the pit last night. You know, I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you for a little bit here.
Speaker 1: Some shocking, at least shocking to me polling that I
Speaker 1: saw this week with respect to people's opinion about socialism,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's hard for me to believe when
Speaker 1: I give you these numbers that they are what they are.
Speaker 1: But let me give them to you first and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about it. This is Gallop, and they measured American's
Speaker 1: opinions of various economic systems, mainly socialism. They started doing this,
Speaker 1: Gallup did in twenty ten, and they've done it. Let's
Speaker 1: see repeated the question six times since then. Anyway, Democrats
Speaker 1: and independence view capitalism less positively this year, each showing
Speaker 1: eight percentage point declines. In twenty twenty one. For the
Speaker 1: first time, less than half of Democrats forty two percent,
Speaker 1: view capitalism positively, while a slight majority of independents fifty
Speaker 1: one percent still do. Republicans' views not unsurprisingly, about seventy
Speaker 1: percent support capitalism. But when you get to socialism, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is what really bothers me. Democrats positive view of socialism.
Speaker 1: In twenty ten it was fifty percent. It is now
Speaker 1: sixty six percent of Democrats view socialism positively. And it's yeah,
Speaker 1: sixty six percent to forty two percent.
Speaker 2: So and it's I don't know if I haven't.
Speaker 1: The numbers of among young people are even worse. It's
Speaker 1: just it's really disheartening when you see that, and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes I ask myself, are we gonna be able to
Speaker 1: dig ourselves out of this hole?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 1: Thinking about it, it's not really surprising when you stop
Speaker 1: to think that the indoctrination.
Speaker 2: Begins now in grade school.
Speaker 1: Used to be high school and then college, but it
Speaker 1: begins in grade school now, which is not surprising when
Speaker 1: you have a teachers union, actually two of them, who
Speaker 1: could give one damn about students and how they're doing
Speaker 1: at test scores. All they do is get involved in
Speaker 1: political activity. Randy Weingartner, I think she's the president of
Speaker 1: the American Federation of Teachers. I have never seen, and
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a while, I have never
Speaker 1: seen a public statement from her that said, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm really shocked about the test scores. We're going down
Speaker 1: the tubes and all of that. Never but boy, she's
Speaker 1: there when you want to talk about radical leftist politics.
Speaker 1: So it's really, I guess, no surprise that these numbers
Speaker 1: are what they are. These kids they don't know what
Speaker 1: socialism is, they have no idea, and you know, their
Speaker 1: professors when you get to the college level, probably high
Speaker 1: school two are filling their heads with a bunch of
Speaker 1: crap on it. Here's another just a brief part of
Speaker 1: a poll May twenty twenty five Cato Institute you gov.
Speaker 1: That poll found that sixty two percent of Americans aged
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty nine have.
Speaker 2: A favorable view of socialism.
Speaker 1: So and again, to repeat what they just said, sixty
Speaker 1: six percent of Democrats overall have a favorable.
Speaker 2: View of socialism.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons is, as I
Speaker 1: just said, they don't know what socialism is and they
Speaker 1: never has and you know, the support of socialism in
Speaker 1: spite of the fact that it has been tried and
Speaker 1: it has failed in so many countries. That's the thing
Speaker 1: that has me and a lot of other people scratching
Speaker 1: their head. If you want to go down the line.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest example in my lifetime of a
Speaker 1: failure of socialism is the Soviet Union when it collapsed
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one, Thank you, Ronald Reagan. After decades
Speaker 1: of economic stagnation, scarcity, and political repression.
Speaker 2: It just collapsed of its own weight.
Speaker 1: So there would be an example for you, professor, if
Speaker 1: you dare to teach your kids something like that. East
Speaker 1: Germany which of course was a Soviet satellite. They're gone
Speaker 1: now Germany is united. They had all kinds of economic problems.
Speaker 1: The economy lag behind of course their neighbor then West Germany,
Speaker 1: and they always had shortages and a lack of freedom,
Speaker 1: just like the USSR. That fueled dissatisfaction, which led to
Speaker 1: the reunification in nineteen ninety. Venezuela, which was once the
Speaker 1: wealthiest nation in South America. Their oil dependent economy collapsed
Speaker 1: under socialist policies of Hugo Chavez and Nicholas Maduro. Hyperinflation,
Speaker 1: severe shortages of food and medicine, mass emigration. So probably
Speaker 1: the best example, going along with the Soviet Union. Ninety
Speaker 1: miles off of the Florida Coast is Cuba. Since the
Speaker 1: revolution in nineteen fifty nine, Wen Castro got Batista out
Speaker 1: of office, it's been a one party socialist state period.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The pended for years upon the Soviet Union to help
Speaker 1: them out with food, medicines, things like that. When the
Speaker 1: Soviet Union collapsed, and actually a couple of years before that,
Speaker 1: they cut them off, and now they are on their own.
Speaker 1: And from what everything that I have seen and read,
Speaker 1: I mean, they are really struggling. So you know, that's
Speaker 1: another one. Professor, maybe you can teach your students about that.
Speaker 1: But I ain't going to hold my breath. But again,
Speaker 1: it's all about indoctrination, in doctrinating these young people to
Speaker 1: believe that socialism is a good alternative to capitalism, which
Speaker 1: is just nonsense.
Speaker 2: And I got this.
Speaker 1: From AI view supporting me in doctrination claim, but I
Speaker 1: agree with it. And you know, just for the hell AI,
Speaker 1: about ninety percent of the time I find that they
Speaker 1: give it to you, right, They do give you both
Speaker 1: sides of which I like, but they've been pretty good.
Speaker 1: But anyway, they go on to say, some commentators, often
Speaker 1: from conservative and libertarians think tanks, attribute growing support for
Speaker 1: socialism to what they see g listen to this as
Speaker 1: a leftist bias in education in the media. Do you
Speaker 1: think that exists leftist bias and education in the media.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the reasons why they talk
Speaker 1: when they talk about indoctrination. The kids suck it up
Speaker 1: and they don't get the true story. With respect to
Speaker 1: the media, there are some that argue that young people
Speaker 1: receive a bias view of economic systems from the media.
Speaker 2: I think that is absolutely true.
Speaker 1: Education critics claim the education system from high school through
Speaker 1: college promotes leftist ideas and fails to provide a balanced
Speaker 1: economic education. I'm going to read that sentence again because
Speaker 1: that is one thousand percent true. Promotes leftist ideas and
Speaker 1: fails to provide a balanced economic education. Lack of soft
Speaker 1: lack of economic understanding. Critics also point to polls showing
Speaker 1: that many young people cannot accurately define socialism or free enterprise,
Speaker 1: suggesting their support is based on a superficial understanding rather
Speaker 1: than a deep knowledge of economic principles. Again, that one
Speaker 1: is one thousand and one percent true. So I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what you get, and that's why I think those
Speaker 1: numbers as are as high as they are, and it
Speaker 1: should frighten people. I mean, you've got the situation with Mondami.
Speaker 1: He's going to be New York City's next mayor. You
Speaker 1: got Minneapolis, the vice president of their city council is
Speaker 1: a socialist. So you know, again with respect to Mandami,
Speaker 1: he promises to make workers' lives better by raising the
Speaker 1: minimum wage to thirty bucks an hour. You know, I
Speaker 1: want people to make as much money as they can,
Speaker 1: fast food people, whatever. But that's unworkable. I mean, it's popular,
Speaker 1: but it's just dumb and it's unrealistic. Last year, you
Speaker 1: remember this, California demanded that fast food workers be paid
Speaker 1: at least twenty dollars an hour. Yeah, of course the
Speaker 1: unions and the politicians cheered that, but and smart people
Speaker 1: knew this. When the companies have to pay beginners even
Speaker 1: twenty dollars an hour, they employ fewer people. Pizza Hut
Speaker 1: they had to lay off twelve hundred people because of
Speaker 1: it over the next year, while other states add a job.
Speaker 1: Listen to this, California fast food workers lost jobs.
Speaker 2: Eighteen thousand of them lost jobs.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's a situation where young people think
Speaker 1: it's good, but when you apply it, maybe not so much. Minneapolis,
Speaker 1: as I said, the vice president of the Minneapolis Minneapolis
Speaker 1: City Council is a socialist.
Speaker 2: She has said, where has socialism? Oh?
Speaker 1: She was asked a question where his socialism ever worked?
Speaker 1: She was silent and interminable nine seconds. Finally she said,
Speaker 1: I'm doing a fine job representing my community. Question where
Speaker 1: his socialism ever worked? Response, I'm doing a fine job
Speaker 1: representing my community.
Speaker 2: There you go. I mean, this person is the vice
Speaker 2: mayor of a big city. She doesn't know.
Speaker 1: George Will call Umn this to who you haven't heard
Speaker 1: much from in a long time, he said, And a
Speaker 1: lot of people feel like this.
Speaker 2: He says.
Speaker 1: He wants Mondami to win because every years we need
Speaker 1: to experiment and watch it fail. You know, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of with George Will on this. I mean nothing against
Speaker 1: New York City, but I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 1: He wants to give everybody free bus rides. I think
Speaker 1: free subway rides. That's great, that's fantastic. How are you
Speaker 1: going to pay for it? New York like California, probably
Speaker 1: not as bad as California. They're seeing a mass exodus
Speaker 1: of people. So I guess if that's what he wants
Speaker 1: and what they want, that's what they're gonna get. But
Speaker 1: they ought to teach it. They ought to teach it properly.
Speaker 1: They ought to teach it fairly. But I ain't holding
Speaker 1: my breath about that at all. Another thing that really
Speaker 1: got under my crawl this week that I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to you about that is the situation with the
Speaker 1: DHS Secretary of Christian I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: this or not.
Speaker 2: This just shows you the pettiness of the left.
Speaker 1: She was actually blocked from using a bathroom at an
Speaker 1: Illinois government building while all this stuff is going on. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how petty the left can be. You know,
Speaker 1: they're going to prevent her from using the restroom because
Speaker 1: they don't like her. And boy, if you're watching that
Speaker 1: mess out in Portland, that's not getting any better, that's
Speaker 1: only getting worse. I mean, it's just it's a bad
Speaker 1: situation out there, and it's a situation where, you know, cops,
Speaker 1: the Portland Police apparently are not covering over on runs
Speaker 1: that the Ice agents have, you know, dangerous runs sometimes,
Speaker 1: and that runs just the antithesis of what cops do.
Speaker 1: I mean, cops back up cops, whether it's your department
Speaker 1: or another department. But they have been ordered by their administration,
Speaker 1: by the mayor.
Speaker 2: Not to do that.
Speaker 1: And that's not good. I mean, obviously it's not good.
Speaker 1: It's not good for the police, it's not good for
Speaker 1: the public. I mean, it's real simple. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's too simple. We have a federal law that
Speaker 1: prohibits trespassing into our country, period, full stop, and it's
Speaker 1: been on the books for a long time, so we've
Speaker 1: got that law, we have an agency, a federal agency,
Speaker 1: to enforce that law.
Speaker 2: That's ICE.
Speaker 1: And now you have a situation where cops, Portland cops,
Speaker 1: will not go to the aid of a fellow police officer.
Speaker 1: I know, you know, they're not called ICE agents, are
Speaker 1: not called police officers, but they are police officers. They're
Speaker 1: enforcing the law. That's a pretty sad state of affairs.
Speaker 1: And I would love to talk individually it is some
Speaker 1: of those Portland cops and see what they think about it.
Speaker 1: Something tells me that they're probably none too happy, because again,
Speaker 1: it's want to rule one for being a police officer
Speaker 1: on the street. You back up your buddies, you back
Speaker 1: up your fellow officers. But you know, not in the
Speaker 1: age that we're in now. I mean everything has been
Speaker 1: stood on its head, and watching some of that stuff
Speaker 1: out in Portland, Antifa is rumored to be at the
Speaker 1: bottom of it. Trump is trying to put together a
Speaker 1: situation where a conspiracy you can charge them with a
Speaker 1: federal conspiracy. I'm sure the Justice Department is looking at it.
Speaker 1: But you know, when the left doesn't get what they want,
Speaker 1: they riot. When we don't get what we want, you
Speaker 1: know what. We may take it to court, but we
Speaker 1: when's the last time? When's did you ever see a
Speaker 1: group of conservatives rioting about anything? I mean, the obvious
Speaker 1: answer is you haven't because they don't. But again, the
Speaker 1: rules don't apply to many on the left.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I apologize for the kind of disjointed ramp this morning.
Speaker 1: Didn't have a lot of time, But I mean, the
Speaker 1: main thing I'm taken away from it is these young
Speaker 1: people that are saying they support socialism. Somebody, somehow, somewhere
Speaker 1: has got to teach them, number one, what socialism is
Speaker 1: and number two give them examples, the myriad examples where
Speaker 1: it has failed. But I'm not going to hold my
Speaker 1: breath on that anyway. That's what I think. I want
Speaker 1: to know what you think. Seven four nine, seven thousand, one,
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one are the numbers.
Speaker 2: Mike got nine thirty nine thirty.
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Speaker 1: Saturday Midday got a short show for you. As I said,
Speaker 1: we're out of here at eleven because of the uc
Speaker 1: Iowa State game. At ten o'clock, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: to Attorney James Bogan. He's going to fill us in
Speaker 1: on some really good developments on men pretending to be
Speaker 1: women in women's sports that's going our way. Probably ask
Speaker 1: him two about p Diddy and the Komi indictment. And
Speaker 1: at ten thirty the final REDS Report of the year
Speaker 1: with davidy armbrus here. Meantime, I want to get as
Speaker 1: many of these calls that I can. Who do we
Speaker 1: go to first? Let's talk to Thomas in Villa Hills. Hey,
Speaker 1: good morning, Thomas, Hey.
Speaker 4: Good morning Michael.
Speaker 5: Thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 4: My pleasure a little bit, Leary, and I want your
Speaker 4: opinion on the House Republicans and the Senate Republicans. It
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like they're doing much up there. I don't
Speaker 4: see any great movements on any Trump's executive orders. I'm
Speaker 4: kind of leery like they just kind of want the
Speaker 4: status quote because they don't want to upset the applecart
Speaker 4: that much, and they're more politicians than they are Republicans, And.
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: What do you think is going on up there?
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you what would you have them do?
Speaker 1: What are they not doing that you think they should be.
Speaker 4: I would have some immigration some of these executive orders
Speaker 4: looked at turning in.
Speaker 3: The falls without a doubt.
Speaker 6: Well knocks like Trump's doing it all.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is, let's just take immigration.
Speaker 1: It would be better if he didn't have to do
Speaker 1: that through executive orders, but it's not politically feasible for
Speaker 1: him to do it at this time.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know the budget. I know they're going back and
Speaker 2: forth over.
Speaker 1: That, but you know, to me, that's one thing that's
Speaker 1: real simple. The Democrats want a ton of money to
Speaker 1: give to illegal immigrants for medical costs, and Republicans say no,
Speaker 1: they don't want to do it.
Speaker 4: Well, it seems it seems to me like they almost
Speaker 4: would want to lose the mid terms. They can go
Speaker 4: back to status quo and not hit and much pressure
Speaker 4: on them to solve this, and.
Speaker 6: They can have an excuse like, well, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Kind of a split House and Senate and we just can't.
Speaker 6: Do do what we need to do right now.
Speaker 4: It is a perfect opportunity for them to stand up
Speaker 4: for the Americans and get something done here, and I
Speaker 4: just don't see it happening from re elected representatives.
Speaker 3: It's kind of milk toast.
Speaker 6: It's kind of status quo.
Speaker 3: That's what I see. No, it had done very little.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your point of view. I mean, we do
Speaker 1: have a majority in the House, but just barely. And
Speaker 1: the tradition is the party in power will lose seats
Speaker 1: two years after a presidential election. I hope that doesn't happen, obviously,
Speaker 1: and we do have a pretty solid majority in the Senate,
Speaker 1: not sixty votes, which would be great.
Speaker 2: But I understand what you're saying. I got a ton
Speaker 2: of calls here.
Speaker 6: Let me each you one other thing.
Speaker 4: Sure, if we don't fight back at all with all
Speaker 4: these democratic, riotous tactics and we just keep taking it,
Speaker 4: isn't it just going to continue? Don't we have any eat,
Speaker 4: any strength, any backbone. I'm not saying we hit the riot,
Speaker 4: but right if we're throwing them up front, we're going
Speaker 4: to do nothing about you know, we're not gonna write,
Speaker 4: We're just gonna let you have your way.
Speaker 3: When does that stuff?
Speaker 1: Well, let me do this. I'll answer your question. I
Speaker 1: appreciate your call. I got to get to some of
Speaker 1: these other calls, though. You know, from my point of
Speaker 1: view where I sit, I think things are going pretty
Speaker 1: good right about now, and there's really. One reason and
Speaker 1: one reason only for that is because our president has
Speaker 1: a pair of you know what, he doesn't care. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's going to do an executive order. If you don't
Speaker 1: like it, take it to court. If it's illegal, you know,
Speaker 1: it'll be dealt with in the court system. So I
Speaker 1: understand what he's saying. I mean, I'd like to see
Speaker 1: people do more. I mean, if we could ever get
Speaker 1: sixty senators to break the filibuster, we'd be in great shape.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think things are going pretty well, but I agree
Speaker 1: with them on one point. The midterms are crucial. We
Speaker 1: have to keep the majority and beef it up in
Speaker 1: the house. Hey, let me talk to let me talk
Speaker 1: to Barry in Miamisburg.
Speaker 7: Hey, how's it going today?
Speaker 2: I'm good man.
Speaker 6: What you got It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 7: I've got two things for you.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: Positive note, Even the younger twenty crowd knows that they're
Speaker 7: getting screwed by the education system. Do they got screwed?
Speaker 2: Berry? Do you really believe that?
Speaker 1: And if you do, and I think you probably do,
Speaker 1: tell me why because I sure ain't seeing that.
Speaker 2: I would hope that's the case, But why do you
Speaker 2: think that.
Speaker 7: Let me let me give you an example. Yesterday, as
Speaker 7: I was buying lunch at a local fish house that
Speaker 7: I won't name. Okay, some of the workers in the
Speaker 7: back line area, we're making jokes about lack of reading
Speaker 7: ability and laughing at it being because they want to
Speaker 7: the public schools. Really, yeah, I mean there comes a
Speaker 7: point where you know you were given eleven and there's
Speaker 7: nothing else you can call it.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I really do you know parents
Speaker 1: to what their kids are being taught. I'm sorry, go ahead, that's.
Speaker 3: Not all of them, I grant you, But you know they.
Speaker 7: Were laughing about it like it was a comedy routine,
Speaker 7: and yeah, they realized that something ain't right here.
Speaker 1: I hope you're right about that. I guess in the
Speaker 1: coming years we'll see. But boy, those numbers are frightening.
Speaker 2: I think they are.
Speaker 7: But you know there are nuggets of hope out there.
Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I agree. We just got to
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 7: How do you pick the broken Jack Lanner?
Speaker 2: What? What was that you?
Speaker 7: How do you a broken Jack Lanner?
Speaker 2: Boy? You got me on that one.
Speaker 7: Here's a pumpkin patch.
Speaker 1: Very good and it was clean thanks, Berry, appreciate the call.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. Let me talk to Jeff and Zenia.
Speaker 1: Hey Jeff, good morning, Hey.
Speaker 5: Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 7: How you doing.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to back up your idea.
Speaker 3: Just go through the Wall Street journals last week and
Speaker 3: on Monday they.
Speaker 8: Talked about the rise of the young socialists and what
Speaker 8: they said was dated back to was a two thousand
Speaker 8: and eight financial crisis about how that left a very
Speaker 8: lasting impression on people that were just coming into.
Speaker 3: The workforce as well as looking to buy houses.
Speaker 5: And when the house is.
Speaker 8: Tanked because of various reasons which are still unknown, that's
Speaker 8: where the socialism movement got.
Speaker 2: A big push.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you mentioned that because I get
Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. I read that exact story too,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I mean, if that's the reason
Speaker 1: that they're attracted to socialism, you know, the economy is
Speaker 1: up and down and they need to look at the
Speaker 1: bigger picture. But I mean, you know what high school,
Speaker 1: college aged kid is going to go out of their
Speaker 1: way to do it.
Speaker 2: You gotta get it at the kitchen table. I mean,
Speaker 2: absolutely true.
Speaker 8: But you know, the one question that I've always asked
Speaker 8: when I've never been able to get it answered. Is
Speaker 8: you know when all those people with the ninja loans
Speaker 8: and all these people that basically got loans that shouldn't
Speaker 8: had to have PMI. When you have PMI, basically that
Speaker 8: covers you know, the banks from losing money if you
Speaker 8: default on your loan. Right, if everybody had PMI, why
Speaker 8: was there a problem?
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I don't know the answer
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't either.
Speaker 8: I've never been able to get it either.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you ever like google it, you know
Speaker 1: what AI I think is pretty good. If AI can't
Speaker 1: give you an answer and they present both sides of
Speaker 1: the story too.
Speaker 3: I'll give him a shot.
Speaker 5: Hey, great show, Michael. Lets you get to other people.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Okay, Jeff, thank you. All right, let's
Speaker 1: talk to Steve. Hey, Steve, what you got man?
Speaker 6: Hey, Mike, what do you think of that p did
Speaker 6: he verdic?
Speaker 3: What you think he was fair?
Speaker 2: I think the verdict was fair, frankly.
Speaker 1: I mean, from what I saw, I'm surprised he wasn't
Speaker 1: convicted on more. He got four years yesterday. I think
Speaker 1: he's got about a year locked up or something like that.
Speaker 1: Credit judge has to give him credit for that. So
Speaker 1: if that's accurate, he'll be doing three years. And from
Speaker 1: what I read in one account, I forget which one
Speaker 1: he had scheduled. I don't know if concerts or whatever.
Speaker 1: He scheduled stuff for like next month because he didn't
Speaker 1: think he was going to go to jail.
Speaker 2: He thought he'd get time served. Well he didn't.
Speaker 1: Just the horrific things that all you need to do
Speaker 1: to know about that guy is just look at the
Speaker 1: video of him beaten the living daylights out of that
Speaker 1: woman in the hall. So I have no sympathy for him.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a guest of the federal government
Speaker 1: for a while, and I think that's appropriate.
Speaker 6: I got a question for you, Mike, Yeah, well what
Speaker 6: about to shut down? What do you think of no end?
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: game of scare down now. But to me looking at it,
Speaker 1: it comes down to one thing, and I think you'll
Speaker 1: get at least a lot of Republicans telling you this
Speaker 1: one thing. The Democrats want to pay. I don't have
Speaker 1: the figure in front of me, billions of dollars for
Speaker 1: through I guess Obamacare for medical cost for illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: The Republicans do not want that in there, they don't
Speaker 1: want to pay for it. Of course, the Democrats are
Speaker 1: doing their slight hand on it. And if that's the case,
Speaker 1: the Republicans need to hold out, and I kind of
Speaker 1: think they are. And I think the Democrats, especially Schumer,
Speaker 1: are looking real bad on this thing. And probably the
Speaker 1: number two reason and that this should not be a
Speaker 1: reason for it, is Chucky Schumer. He's got Aoz breathing
Speaker 1: down his neck in New York.
Speaker 2: I think she's gonna blow him away.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's got a cozy up to his
Speaker 1: radical left.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just my thoughts on it.
Speaker 6: Steve Yes, sir, thank you, Mike.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the Republicans win the pr war on this one.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how much farther it's gonna go.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll get it done this week. But you know what,
Speaker 1: and this might sound selfish, but since the government has
Speaker 1: shut down, it hasn't affected my life at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: the federal government shutting down. I mean what I think
Speaker 1: of think of all the money that they're gonna save,
Speaker 1: and it kind of he opens things for doge to
Speaker 1: go in and look for savings. Yeah, and I like
Speaker 1: when they say only essential workers have to come to work. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what is an essential worker?
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think so far in a PR battle, we're winning,
Speaker 1: not by much and the Democrats are losing. But we'll
Speaker 1: have to see. Hey, let's talk to Frank. Hey, Good morning, Franky.
Speaker 3: Hey, Mike, how you doing.
Speaker 6: I haven't talked to you in a while, sir, Thanks
Speaker 6: for calling, absolutely so I in true form. You all
Speaker 6: just have such great conversations. You have great callers. I
Speaker 6: could speak about a million things with you. But taking
Speaker 6: it back to this ignorance of socialism, I couldn't agree
Speaker 6: with you more. I think the country as a whole
Speaker 6: is kind of confused about what this means. So I'm
Speaker 6: wondering why you and other Republican pundits aren't shouting at
Speaker 6: the sky with the government taking a ten percent share
Speaker 6: of Intel like Trump did, or taking a share in
Speaker 6: the lithium a mining company like they are. Or it
Speaker 6: looks like soybean farmers are getting crushed with his tariff.
Speaker 3: And if you.
Speaker 6: Remember from Trump one point zero, the same thing happened.
Speaker 6: Farmers were getting killed so we cut them a huge
Speaker 6: check billions of dollars. Why aren't we yelling about socialism
Speaker 6: when Trump does it? Because that's a socialist policy.
Speaker 2: And what was your first one that you talked about? Intel?
Speaker 6: We have a ten percent stake in Intel.
Speaker 1: Now you know what, I don't agree with that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, we don't need to be involved
Speaker 1: in that stuff. And I know Trump.
Speaker 6: Where is the outrage about socialism? When Trump does it?
Speaker 6: There's no outrage whatsoever. It's crickets but anything. It's Oh,
Speaker 6: he's a genius what he did, He's a business genius.
Speaker 2: What do you want us to do? Frank, get it
Speaker 2: in the streets and riot like the other side. Does
Speaker 2: you know? No?
Speaker 1: I rank Sorry, listen, you'll never get that out of
Speaker 1: a liberal ever.
Speaker 2: I said, I think it's wrong to do that. I do.
Speaker 1: But if you weigh it out with the other things
Speaker 1: he's done, that scale goes way down. I mean, on
Speaker 1: the side of the good things that he's done. I
Speaker 1: get it, well, I get it, And there has been
Speaker 1: some squealing about it.
Speaker 6: But not only you're you're you're you're a free market capitalist.
Speaker 6: But aren't tariffs The antithesis of capitalism, of free market capitalism.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 6: I don't the protectionist policy. It's protectionist. I don't believe
Speaker 6: that are all people to get from certain things.
Speaker 1: Well, why shouldn't we have other countries be equal to
Speaker 1: us with respect to tariffs?
Speaker 6: I don't understand the archaistic it's a tax on us.
Speaker 6: Tariffs are attacks on citizens, not on to anybody else.
Speaker 6: We're the ones that pay that it triples down to us.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the first time I've heard the argument
Speaker 1: that tariff's I know a lot of people don't like him.
Speaker 1: I get that, but that they're socialism, So you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: One more, one more point. I know you've got a
Speaker 6: lot of callers, but you said you know our side
Speaker 6: never right. It's all points you in one specific January
Speaker 6: January six.
Speaker 2: Give me another one, will you please?
Speaker 6: Well, how about the one when our capital was attacked
Speaker 6: because sore losers didn't like?
Speaker 2: Another one? Frank, you can't get.
Speaker 6: The worst one in the history of the country. It's
Speaker 6: the only time our capital is the uh crap smeared
Speaker 6: on the walls and they all got they all got
Speaker 6: part of officer.
Speaker 1: Listen to me again. I'll tell you I hated that.
Speaker 1: I hated watching that, but it was one occasion when
Speaker 1: you got numerous occasions with the other sides.
Speaker 2: I do appreciate the call, I really do.
Speaker 6: Thanks Mike.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Let's talk to uh Keegan. Hey, good morning, Kagan, Hey,
Speaker 2: good morning. Thanks for staying my call.
Speaker 6: I'm calling to respond to the previous caller that just
Speaker 6: got off the line. Yeah, numerous things.
Speaker 3: That are out of day.
Speaker 6: First off, with regards to J six, I love the
Speaker 6: lack of momentary of the now exposed two hundred and
Speaker 6: seventy five FBI eight and somewherebted and all of that.
Speaker 6: Plus you have numerous people on the right and even
Speaker 6: the middle that were immediately decrying all of it, alongside
Speaker 6: with the left. So it was obviously a ridiculous thing
Speaker 6: on its face, and you're getting no argument from that. Meanwhile,
Speaker 6: all the BLM riots went, you know, completely unnoticed. I
Speaker 6: guess when two billion dollars worth of damage was done
Speaker 6: to property all around the United States. The other thing
Speaker 6: is with regards to tiff Now, I'm no fan. I'm
Speaker 6: a small business owner which deals with product on both
Speaker 6: the domestic and international fronts. You know, he's mentioning the
Speaker 6: soybean argument as if it's not directly affected by China,
Speaker 6: who is, in all intents and purposes, our enemy. It's
Speaker 6: a reality. They steal our ip left and right. It's
Speaker 6: not like we're dealing with like Certainly, of course people
Speaker 6: on the right are, you know, pro capitalism and free
Speaker 6: market capitalism. But that conversation ends when you're one dealing
Speaker 6: with an adversary and two dealing with an adversary that
Speaker 6: is also not capitalistic and is stealing our property left
Speaker 6: and right. So I think it's completely out of base
Speaker 6: and intentionally, it's almost like guilt biomission. It's intentionally ignoring
Speaker 6: crucial facts that doesn't paint the full picture.
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds like what the left does. Thank you
Speaker 1: for the call, Kegan, I really do tears. Okay, well
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he picked me up on that one,
Speaker 1: and everything that he said is right with respect to
Speaker 1: Jay six.
Speaker 2: I watched that.
Speaker 1: I was urinated off at obviously the people there and
Speaker 1: Trump too.
Speaker 2: I mean I hated it.
Speaker 1: But when I asked him about three times, okay, give
Speaker 1: me another one, Well there isn't because that's not what
Speaker 1: we do anyway, Well, I got a lot of other calls,
Speaker 1: but again, short show, so we got to take a break.
Speaker 1: When we get back, we're going to talk to Attorney
Speaker 1: James Bogan. Now, what's going on in some recent victories
Speaker 1: in the whole war of men or women pretending men
Speaker 1: pretending to be women in women's sports.
Speaker 2: We'll do that when we get back. Mike.
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Speaker 1: Mike Allen with hour two, which is the final hour
Speaker 1: today Saturday midday because of the UC game.
Speaker 2: I am out of here in eleven.
Speaker 1: Hey, I tell you what, there's some good news continues
Speaker 1: to be good news on the whole situation with men
Speaker 1: pretending to be girls in girls sports. Here to talk
Speaker 1: about it is a guy that keeps up on it
Speaker 1: talking about Attorney James Bogan. You can hear him. He's
Speaker 1: on this channel quite a bit, and he is a podcast.
Speaker 1: It is a really good podcast called Past the Clock.
Speaker 1: I know you can get it on iHeart, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you can get it on other platforms. James, thanks
Speaker 1: for calling in this morning.
Speaker 3: Mike, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's start with Bostock versus Clayton County, which is
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty United States Supreme Court case. They kind
Speaker 1: of looked at that and not made changes, but kind
Speaker 1: of clarified some things.
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?
Speaker 3: That was the case that the Auto Pen Administration and
Speaker 3: wrongly interpreted to say, hey, this means guys should be
Speaker 3: allowed in girls' sports. But if you look at the
Speaker 3: plain language of this opinion, the court expressly stated this
Speaker 3: only applied to discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender
Speaker 3: identity and nothing else in the workplace. Right, And they're
Speaker 3: saying they specifically stated it doesn't apply to bathrooms, locker rooms,
Speaker 3: or anything else of the kind. It only applies to
Speaker 3: employment discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity, and
Speaker 3: nothing else. Now, I don't know how you could read
Speaker 3: the opinion in plain English and think it says, hey,
Speaker 3: you should allow guys in girls' sports.
Speaker 1: Well, you know how the left is and their attorneys
Speaker 1: are the same way. They'll take any interpretation they can
Speaker 1: to quote unquote win.
Speaker 2: When do you think they'll.
Speaker 3: Interpret two plus two equals sixth that it fits their purposes?
Speaker 1: When do you think they'll rule on the marriage of
Speaker 1: the case, or had they already done.
Speaker 3: So no, they already did that. That's just the case
Speaker 3: for the background, right. But you know what you've got here.
Speaker 3: We've got two big things going on right now. We've
Speaker 3: got that lawsuit by Riley Gaines and the nineteen other
Speaker 3: plaintiffs that was filed in federal court in Atlanta last
Speaker 3: year that just got past a significant hurdle, along with
Speaker 3: that other case that the Supreme Court just took in
Speaker 3: July about law in Idaho in West Virginia that banned
Speaker 3: guys from girls' sports.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. You mentioned the Riley Gaines case.
Speaker 1: I saw that too, James, tell my listeners what happened there,
Speaker 1: and I guess it was a small loss, but a
Speaker 1: pretty big win in other ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big win overall. Because the Title nine
Speaker 3: claims against the NCAA's stay, they can go forward. The
Speaker 3: plans can go forward on those because the judge, who
Speaker 3: by the way, is an auto pen appoint he said
Speaker 3: that the plaintiffs have plausibly alleged that the NCAA receives
Speaker 3: federal financial assistance and is therefore subject to the requirements
Speaker 3: that Title nine. But some other stuff got dropped, like
Speaker 3: saying that they have not plausibly alleged a violation of
Speaker 3: right to privacy. That's for the guys and girls locker
Speaker 3: rooms part, and some other stuff, I mean, the title
Speaker 3: nine stuff, that's the meat of it, right, But the
Speaker 3: main goals of this lawsuit are to keep guys out
Speaker 3: of girls sports and girls locker rooms and mandatory gender
Speaker 3: testing because the NCAA does not have gender testing, And
Speaker 3: contrary to the what the left says saying it's gonna
Speaker 3: be invasive genital exams, it's actually nothing more than a
Speaker 3: cheek swab maybe a blood test to test for chromosomes.
Speaker 3: They don't look at anybody's junk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, And I'm glad you clarified that part.
Speaker 1: It's just a situation where they're gonna twist anything to
Speaker 1: fit with their narrative. But it looks like that one
Speaker 1: is going to come to fruition at the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: at some point, I mean, on the full case.
Speaker 3: Eventually, Yes, it will.
Speaker 2: Do you have any idea when, uh?
Speaker 3: No, I mean right now, it's still in the trial phase,
Speaker 3: so it's gonna take some years. But you have that
Speaker 3: Idaho in wet'st Virginia protecting women's sports laws that are
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court just took. And the funny thing is
Speaker 3: the plaint if in the Idaho case is now trying
Speaker 3: to dismiss her if. They're trying to dismiss their case
Speaker 3: pretty much because they know they're going to get their
Speaker 3: rear ends whooped when they when they're in front of
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: YEP, I get that. Hey, James, I ask you this
Speaker 1: question every time I talk to you. Are we still
Speaker 1: winning this battle? It sure sounds like we are.
Speaker 3: We are winning this I mean. The thing. The bottom line, though,
Speaker 3: is here's the underpinning that the far left is trying
Speaker 3: to make everybody forget. When guy someone goes through puberty
Speaker 3: as a male, they gain certain permanent advantages that don't
Speaker 3: go away from hormones and blockers. Yeah, bigger muscles, bigger
Speaker 3: long capacity, bigger frame, stronger tenants, stronger ligaments, more muscle density,
Speaker 3: and you see my better have. Shannon Campbell, she does bodybuilding.
Speaker 3: If she was to start taking steroids, she wouldn't get
Speaker 3: anywhere near to where I am. Because if women take steroids,
Speaker 3: they don't suddenly become as good as men. That's where
Speaker 3: you have to Title nine violation. But if men start
Speaker 3: taking hormones, then they don't beat their ability does not
Speaker 3: regress down the level of women. Men's and women's performances
Speaker 3: differences about ten to twelve percent. And is you've heard
Speaker 3: me mentioned before? Leah Thomas's time in the two hundred
Speaker 3: yard freestyle only regressed by two point six six percent
Speaker 3: after a year of hormones and blockers, went from being
Speaker 3: number four hundred and sixty five mon college men to
Speaker 3: number one mon college women. I mean, imagine if I
Speaker 3: decided to get on stage and compete against Shannon and
Speaker 3: her bodybuilding competition.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, James, Can I tell you something?
Speaker 1: I think she probably I think she probably could take you.
Speaker 1: She could tell you or me together.
Speaker 3: I think, oh, you know what all she needs to
Speaker 3: do to kick our butts is start singing and we're done.
Speaker 3: Remember I told you Persne's medieval torture, I'll put I'll
Speaker 3: add this to it. You know how will Ealy jokes
Speaker 3: about harambe right, if Harambi had not been shot dead
Speaker 3: that faithful day, Shannon would have killed him with her singing,
Speaker 3: and we'd be saying Shannon Campbell killed Harambe.
Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, you're gonna get it when you get home.
Speaker 2: You know you better watch.
Speaker 3: Oh I gave her a head up, but yeah, she's
Speaker 3: still gonna kill me, and you know what, I deserve it.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's move on too. We are gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the Komy indictment. I'll tell you one thing, James, and
Speaker 1: I'll ask you if you agree, this is, without question,
Speaker 1: the shortest federal indictment that I have ever seen. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it's not they didn't take it to the
Speaker 1: grand jury. I guess it's in the nature of a
Speaker 1: complaint two pages. Have you ever seen a federal case
Speaker 1: in anything that is only two pages long in a
Speaker 1: criminal case?
Speaker 3: Might every drug case I've had in federal course been
Speaker 3: a lot longer than this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it seemed to me there's probably merit to it, James,
Speaker 1: But I mean, do you think they'll be able to
Speaker 1: prove this thing beyond a reasonable doubt?
Speaker 3: You know what they have to focus on the nuts
Speaker 3: and bolts. Did he lie to set the Senate Judiciary Committee?
Speaker 3: And if the answer is yes, focus on those nuts
Speaker 3: and bolts clear through the smoke screen that the defense
Speaker 3: is gonna do. I mean, here's here's the funny thing.
Speaker 3: Komy has always urged prosecuting high level perjury cases. Remember
Speaker 3: he was the lead prosecutor in Martha Stewart's case, and
Speaker 3: he's basically now taking the approach rules for thee but
Speaker 3: not for me. And this thing totally centers around the
Speaker 3: fact that he lied to Congress about his role in
Speaker 3: promoting the Russian collusion hopes, where he was pretty much
Speaker 3: the one who spearheaded it after and you saw evidence
Speaker 3: of that, more evidence of that from that document dump
Speaker 3: that Tulca Gabbert did a couple months back that basically
Speaker 3: showed that Comy was completely spearheading this thing. He's like,
Speaker 3: I don't care what your investigation says we have. We're
Speaker 3: dissenting from these findings quote based on some new guidance.
Speaker 3: The new guidance was wanting to get Trump.
Speaker 1: It's obvious to anyone that has ever looked into this,
Speaker 1: and even superficially. But again, I just worry about proof
Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt. Let me ask you this, where's
Speaker 1: the venue for this? Is it DC or somewhere Virginia
Speaker 1: somewhere or do you know.
Speaker 3: It's in Virginia. I think, yeah, that it was that
Speaker 3: that that's the US Attorney's office that's taking it.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's better than DC, you know what, still not friendly,
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the prosecutors. They're gonna need to focus on
Speaker 3: the nuts and bolts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is pretty simple.
Speaker 1: I mean, but again, getting twelve to agree on it,
Speaker 1: and obviously, obviously I hope the man is convicted because
Speaker 1: he deserves it, you know. And another thing, James, I
Speaker 1: don't expect you to comment on this unless you want to,
Speaker 1: because as a lawyer, maybe I shouldn't say it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I heard somebody talking about these things one time and
Speaker 1: says the process is the punishment. I mean, normally I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. But and another, I mean, politics is
Speaker 1: about payback. It's a big part of it. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you want to comment on that, fine, if
Speaker 1: you will, Well.
Speaker 3: There is something be said about the idea. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to sit there and say you should prosecute him
Speaker 3: because the process is punishment. That's completely improper. But just
Speaker 3: simple maths. Nobody likes being put through the process. Just
Speaker 3: ask our president.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, you know, and that's the thing. And I
Speaker 1: agree with you from a lawyer's point of view on that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you think about all the crap they
Speaker 1: put Donald Trump through, and I get a kick out
Speaker 1: of every time one of them starts squealing about something
Speaker 1: like this. I mean, go back four years, Hell, go
Speaker 1: back twelve years. And yeah, you peached the man twice.
Speaker 1: Obviously the Senate didn't convict and lord knows how many
Speaker 1: other criminal cases in civil cases. So from a citizen's
Speaker 1: point of view, James Bogan, they're getting what they deserve.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that as a lawyer though,
Speaker 1: but anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me put it this way. I'm not exactly
Speaker 3: wringing my hands about this.
Speaker 1: But very very very well put Hey, let's talk about
Speaker 1: mister p Diddy. Yesterday, the judge gave him four years.
Speaker 1: I don't think he thought that he was going to
Speaker 1: prison or back to prison. I think he thought that
Speaker 1: he was going to get time served. I saw some
Speaker 1: reports somewhere James, within the last day or so where
Speaker 1: he had gigs and all kinds of so called important
Speaker 1: stuff up set up pretty close to when he would
Speaker 1: have gotten out if the judge did give him time served.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he gets it yet, but I
Speaker 1: don't know your thoughts on.
Speaker 3: That that is complete where it was completely idiotic on
Speaker 3: his part. Alan Dershwitz waited on this too, saying it
Speaker 3: was a slap in the face and he couldn't imagine.
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine anything more stupid to do before sentencing.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: That's just like when you tell a client these are
Speaker 3: the things you do not say or do before sentencing,
Speaker 3: and they go, gee, I think I'll do all of them,
Speaker 3: and then wonder why they got it work sentence. Now, overall,
Speaker 3: his sense of fifty months, which he'll probably he could
Speaker 3: get up to fifteen percent off and be out by
Speaker 3: April twenty twenty eight is still relatively not a bad sentence.
Speaker 3: I mean, the prosecutors were arguing for eleven years to
Speaker 3: try to save Faith for blowing around ten million of
Speaker 3: our tax dollars for what was basically a glorified state
Speaker 3: prostitution case. And the arguments they used that's sentencing about
Speaker 3: how bad he is and so on for the with
Speaker 3: based on the evidence they presented, which no doubt did
Speaker 3: he's a dirt bag, okay, but you don't convict because
Speaker 3: someone is a dirt bag. And those arguments clearly didn't
Speaker 3: sway the jury on the more serious counts, but they
Speaker 3: open up the door for the defense to have one
Speaker 3: of issue on appeal saying that the court considered a
Speaker 3: quitted conduct. I mean the court can also I mean
Speaker 3: the defense can also argue improper guideline calculation, because I
Speaker 3: bet some months back I might have told you this,
Speaker 3: Mark garrett Goes, by the way, whose daughter was on
Speaker 3: the defense game, Mark gerrat Goes, being h you know,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest names in our profession. He had
Speaker 3: calculated something to maybe about a year and a half
Speaker 3: or so. And that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's somewhere in that range. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: was calculating something like that. And you know, but I
Speaker 3: have a hard time, would have a hard time believing
Speaker 3: that the judge did not consider that. Did he arrange
Speaker 3: these stupid speaking engagements. He should have been focusing on
Speaker 3: showing remorse. Yeah, the only thing he should have been
Speaker 3: focusing on.
Speaker 1: You know, And you described probably the most I guess
Speaker 1: agreedious thing with defense attorneys visa VI their clients when
Speaker 1: you tell them that don't do this. Don't do that,
Speaker 1: you'll piss the judge off. Don't do this, and they
Speaker 1: do it anyway, then they squeal when they don't get
Speaker 1: what they thought they should have gotten.
Speaker 2: It's just very frustrating.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I'll just go out in a personal
Speaker 3: store on that. A couple of years ago, I had
Speaker 3: a client in Warren County who they had a gun
Speaker 3: case and he fired it and he's sitting there saying
Speaker 3: stuff like he was happy with what he did, and
Speaker 3: he was playing to get another gun and basically completely
Speaker 3: put his foot in his mouth, topped his wing into prison.
Speaker 3: And even my lock up client who was at the
Speaker 3: defense table what I got done, was watching us think
Speaker 3: that was horrible. But even another inmate says, you're horrible.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know how bad it is.
Speaker 1: I mean again, they pay you a good coin for
Speaker 1: doing that. They ought to listen to what the heck
Speaker 1: that you say I did? Here mentioned this morning on
Speaker 1: some report that he's planning on appealing. You mentioned James Bogan.
Speaker 1: You can appeal the guideline calculation. And just for listeners
Speaker 1: who don't know the federal guidelines in a federal criminal case,
Speaker 1: there are guidelines that the court. When it first came out,
Speaker 1: they were mandatory. They are now advisory, but they're still important.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the chances of appeal on
Speaker 1: that issue in any other issue?
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm take a look and see what happens,
Speaker 3: because overall, he got a pretty good sentence.
Speaker 2: He sure did. I think he sure did.
Speaker 1: He got to take that four years and run and again,
Speaker 1: I think he was locked up about a year, wasn't he.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, with the time off for good behavior,
Speaker 3: he could be in for only maybe another two and
Speaker 3: a half years.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. They don't think that way.
Speaker 1: And you know, the guy, the guy dodged a big
Speaker 1: old bullet. And you know, sometimes you just got to
Speaker 1: shut up and take what you're what you're given when
Speaker 1: it's obviously a fair and, if anything, a light sentence.
Speaker 2: But I appreciate your should.
Speaker 3: He should stop buying baby oil and mass quantity too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably got a lot left he can bring
Speaker 1: to prison with him, though.
Speaker 2: James appreciates your playing in with us.
Speaker 1: Bill.
Speaker 3: Well, you're certainly welcome, Mike. It's always a privilege.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, James, Bogan talking about P Diddy's case.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, the guy got off pretty darn light,
Speaker 1: so he ought to quit his whining and complaining do
Speaker 1: his time. I don't know what kind of setup he's
Speaker 1: got up in prison there, but federal prisons. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I've been in federal and local, not local
Speaker 1: state prisons. They are compared to a state prison. It's
Speaker 1: like the holiday inn. So he probably ain't hurting too
Speaker 1: bad in there. Hey, we got to take a break
Speaker 1: butt when we get back. The last Reds report of
Speaker 1: the season with our man David he Armbusher. Got a
Speaker 1: lot of questions for you, and we'll do that when
Speaker 1: we get back. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. Hey we're
Speaker 1: back Mike Allen, Saturday midday. Well, obviously, the red season
Speaker 1: ended this week with two playoff losses to the LA Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Just to give you an idea of how they did,
Speaker 1: and this is according to a the batting stats for
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Reds hit two fifty their batting average eleven
Speaker 1: hits at sixty four at bats. With respect to pitching,
Speaker 1: I think it was a lot better than that, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to check it. Anyway here to talk
Speaker 1: about it as our guy for all things Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 2: David Dye, Arm Brewster, yid your thoughts.
Speaker 5: It's a bummer that had ended the way it ended.
Speaker 5: It really is, because they had a good season and
Speaker 5: then you go into LA and you get beat and
Speaker 5: you know, both games were decided before the game was
Speaker 5: even halfway old. That was that's the meat, just the
Speaker 5: bummer part of it that they couldn't you know, couldn't
Speaker 5: score enough early to keep that game in check, either
Speaker 5: one of them, you know, and it just it's it
Speaker 5: kind of hurts. I was really disappointed with the out
Speaker 5: hunter green Head. Yeah, you know, you only end up
Speaker 5: going three innings and giving up five runs and three
Speaker 5: home runs, and those were just killers. You know, the
Speaker 5: lead off home run to o Tiny That doesn't bother me.
Speaker 5: That's fine, it's going to happen. But then he gives
Speaker 5: up too in the next inning or the third inning,
Speaker 5: whatever it was, and it just that just took the
Speaker 5: air out of the balloon right there.
Speaker 2: Do you think it was butterflies? He was nervous?
Speaker 5: I hope not. I mean, that guy's pitched in a
Speaker 5: you know, he's getting paid a lot of money for
Speaker 5: a reason, right, I think I think everybody that goes
Speaker 5: in there, as I would imagine, it's a little bit nervous.
Speaker 5: But after you throw that first pitch, all that stuff
Speaker 5: better go away, or you know, you're not a professional.
Speaker 3: So I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think it was that. I don't. I guess
Speaker 5: you know, his pitches where where they can hit him, basically,
Speaker 5: So you know, that was just that was just disappointed.
Speaker 5: Tell that a little better than night next night, but still,
Speaker 5: you know, not enough. You got to hold that lead,
Speaker 5: especially given the fact that the Dodgers' bullpen is not
Speaker 5: very good. I don't think this team's that team's going
Speaker 5: to go along and as good as they can hit,
Speaker 5: that bullpen is very hittable, and the Reds proved that
Speaker 5: in that first game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you look at the twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: season stats.
Speaker 2: Not too bad.
Speaker 1: Pitching, well, that's not that good. Eighty three seventy nine
Speaker 1: wait minute stopped. Oh, they finished one to eighty three,
Speaker 1: lost seventy nine, fourteen games behind the Brewers. Okay, the ninth,
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five batting average, two forty five, sixteen
Speaker 1: home runs, they're twenty first out of thirty on that
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty six home runs six hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy seven RBIs right in the middle of the pack.
Speaker 2: But pitching, this won't surprise anybody.
Speaker 1: They were twelve out of the thirty teams with a
Speaker 1: three point eighty six ERA. And you know that pitching
Speaker 1: staff is strong.
Speaker 5: It is strong. It is strong. What it is not
Speaker 5: is healthy. I mean, if those guys would stay healthy
Speaker 5: the entire season, every one of them, Hunter Green missed
Speaker 5: whatever two months, Habitt was out for a little bit,
Speaker 5: Lodolo had the problem on his on his index finger.
Speaker 5: Brady Singer, he was the star because he's the one
Speaker 5: that went, you know, the longest, in the deepest, in
Speaker 5: every game. You pitched a lot of it and he
Speaker 5: didn't miss a start. And those end up, man, when
Speaker 5: you're when you're starting pitchers are missing you know, three
Speaker 5: or four, five, six starts. That's a lot considering you're
Speaker 5: only you know, if you're if you're healthy the whole season,
Speaker 5: you're only throwing thirty two games anyway, So I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, you knocked that number down by five or
Speaker 5: six and that hurts the team. And I think that
Speaker 5: was part of it. I really do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the blogs are real busy.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Francona has taken some hits by using lodolo in relief
Speaker 1: on Sunday, So I guess that would have eliminated him
Speaker 1: as being the starter in game two. I mean, does
Speaker 1: that make any sense to you? And I have no
Speaker 1: complaints about.
Speaker 6: Now I have.
Speaker 5: I have no complaints either, because you have to win
Speaker 5: the game Sunday. You know you you worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
Speaker 5: You don't worry about tomorrow today if you have to
Speaker 5: win this game. So I have no complaints with that.
Speaker 5: I mean I've heard something where why didn't he keep
Speaker 5: lodolo in and at Uh? I can't remember first or
Speaker 5: second game when and he was pitching, well well, I
Speaker 5: mean he pitched the day before, so maybe that are
Speaker 5: two days before. Maybe that's the reason I can tell
Speaker 5: you this. I'm not questioning uh every move Hanry Francona.
Speaker 3: Uh pass.
Speaker 5: The guy has two World Series rings on for a reason.
Speaker 5: You know there there is, So I'm not going to
Speaker 5: nitpick on every one thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: The bottom line to all this Reds need better players, Mike,
Speaker 5: They need better players, especially offensively.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: If you if you want to compete. You saw how
Speaker 5: deep uh the uh Dodgers are. Now they're never going
Speaker 5: to get that deep because they don't have that kind
Speaker 5: of money. But boy, you got to have some depth,
Speaker 5: and you got to have some guys that can that
Speaker 5: can hit the balls. And the one home run or
Speaker 5: the home runs that you mentioned twenty first, twenty first
Speaker 5: out of thirty teams in the Great American Ballpark, that's
Speaker 5: that's sinful. You got to be better than that, exactly,
Speaker 5: have to. They have got somebody that can put the
Speaker 5: ball over the fence.
Speaker 2: And we've talked about that odd infin item.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you see this team doing over
Speaker 1: the break before we go back on opening Day?
Speaker 2: Is there anyone out there?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: I think there's people out there. I mean, I think
Speaker 5: you can get some of those maybe some of those
Speaker 5: young hairs. If you look at like the the the Athletics. Boy,
Speaker 5: they got some nice young bats on that team, and
Speaker 5: they could use some pitching. And you know you're going
Speaker 5: to have to. It's the old saying you got to
Speaker 5: give up something to get something, and I am. I
Speaker 5: am fine with them trading one of the starters. I mean,
Speaker 5: my guess is it's I would probably Hunter Green. He's
Speaker 5: probably gonna bring you the most, So do you do
Speaker 5: that maybe.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you can get enough for him. I
Speaker 2: hate to see him go.
Speaker 1: He seems like a real fine young man and he's
Speaker 1: got a hell of a future, I think, despite what
Speaker 1: we saw in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: But you got to give up quality to get quality.
Speaker 5: There's no question. And I think that that has to
Speaker 5: happen with this team. And uh, you know you're gonna
Speaker 5: You're probably gonna lose Nick Martinez, he's one of them.
Speaker 5: I think Lattel is probably a free agent as well.
Speaker 5: So you're gonna are going to lose some starters in there,
Speaker 5: and then you got a factor in the injuries. I mean,
Speaker 5: I know we talked about it when Abbott struggled in
Speaker 5: the second half, when Lott Dola was down. You really
Speaker 5: you can't have enough starting pitching. So maybe they think otherwise,
Speaker 5: Maybe they think they can't afford to get rid of
Speaker 5: Hunter Green or one of the other starters. But I mean,
Speaker 5: you've got to score some You can't win if you
Speaker 5: don't score rounds, and this team has to have some power.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the blogs too, there's one from my think Thursday.
Speaker 1: It is in the blog red Machine Drew Cook six
Speaker 1: Reds players who definitely won't be back in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: and he lists, let's see, I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I get it right here. He lists Nick Martinez is one,
Speaker 1: Santiago Espinal, Zach Lttel. Who are the other ones here?
Speaker 1: Sam Maul, Austin Hayes, and Wade Miley. Your thoughts on that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you see those guys going?
Speaker 5: I think that. I think that's fairly accurate. Wade Miley
Speaker 5: may stick around, you know, that might be a mutual
Speaker 5: thing because the Reds did give him a chance to
Speaker 5: come back and gave him a second life, and you know,
Speaker 5: sat through his Tommy John surgery that he had as
Speaker 5: a brewer, so that he may be around. I'm not
Speaker 5: sure about that. The other ones. For sure, Martinez is gone.
Speaker 5: I think Amelia Pagan is gone. Oh personal, and because
Speaker 5: I I'm not sure his contracts that is. But I
Speaker 5: think he is a free agent. I think he might
Speaker 5: be one of them that is out of here. Now.
Speaker 5: We'll we'll wait and see. We'll know soon enough. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's not going to be very you know, a long
Speaker 5: way off, and they know what's going to happen, and
Speaker 5: I and I would hope that they make some of
Speaker 5: these deals. If they're going to go out and try
Speaker 5: to get a bat day, you know, it's not the
Speaker 5: last minute thing that when they get down there for
Speaker 5: the general managers meetings whenever that is in early December.
Speaker 5: I guess I think you go and go down there
Speaker 5: and make some moves. And I also think that Terry
Speaker 5: Francine is going to have a bit have a big
Speaker 5: hand and a big say and what they do in
Speaker 5: the off season, because you know, he's seen this team
Speaker 5: now for a year. You see him turned the course
Speaker 5: of his season kind of molded into what he wants,
Speaker 5: and I think that's just going to continue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're crazy if they don't get his
Speaker 1: input into all that stuff. I mean, if you're looking
Speaker 1: for bright spots, and I think there were a lot
Speaker 1: of them this year, him being at the Helm is
Speaker 1: probably the biggest one. I you know, I'm not smart
Speaker 1: enough to guess second guess him on calls. I would
Speaker 1: never do that, but sure seems like he had the
Speaker 1: pieces put together the right way, don't you.
Speaker 5: Think, Oh I do during the course of the year.
Speaker 5: I mean, he made so many moves that, you know,
Speaker 5: during this little things, but you know, you know, he
Speaker 5: started the season with Matt McClean batting up in the order.
Speaker 5: Towards the end of the year, he was batting ninth.
Speaker 5: He finally moved Ellie Daily Cruise out of that third
Speaker 5: spot in new order, and I think, I mean, maybe
Speaker 5: you can say he should have done that sooner. Well,
Speaker 5: maybe he should have, maybe he shouldn't have. I mean,
Speaker 5: Ellie data Cruz is still a really good baseball player,
Speaker 5: but I think little things like that, and once he's
Speaker 5: you know, you got the trades that were made were
Speaker 5: good trades. Key Brian Hayes at third base, you start
Speaker 5: little five things a little bit.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I think they're still going to figure out what they're
Speaker 5: going to do with South Stewart. Where is he going
Speaker 5: to play? Because quite frankly, he's a liability defensively at
Speaker 5: third base? So does he play first? When you got
Speaker 5: Spencer steer over at first base, who, if they were
Speaker 5: being honest, should win the Gold Glove at first base.
Speaker 5: I don't think he will, but that's how well he
Speaker 5: played there. So do you take him off that and
Speaker 5: put him in the outfield? Just a lot of maneuvering
Speaker 5: that has to go on during this off t season.
Speaker 5: But the one thing with Francona, see likes guys that
Speaker 5: can play everywhere. I don't know that I'm a great
Speaker 5: big fan of that, but it seems to work. So
Speaker 5: that's the way the game is gone. And with Spencer Steer,
Speaker 5: that's what you have. You can put him pretty much
Speaker 5: any place you need.
Speaker 2: Him, you know.
Speaker 1: Speaking of defensive problems, Elie de la Cruz, I mean,
Speaker 1: what does he do over the offseason to improve with fielding?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't check, but I think the last time
Speaker 1: you and I spoke, he had the most errors of
Speaker 1: anyone in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2: What do they do? And I love the guy, I
Speaker 2: love him, I love watching.
Speaker 1: Him, but he's got I get he's got to get
Speaker 1: better defensively.
Speaker 5: Well, my opinion is come opening Day he's going to
Speaker 5: be in center field. Really, I really think that. I
Speaker 5: think it's I mean, you can put up when I've
Speaker 5: heard the argument after last season, well, Barry Larkin led
Speaker 5: the league, and Harris his first season, well he didn't
Speaker 5: in season number two, and Ellie did, I think it's
Speaker 5: time to move him off a shortstop. Look what it.
Speaker 5: It did wonders for Noelvi Martiete when they moved him
Speaker 5: off a third base and put him in the ray field,
Speaker 5: because his mind was freed up. He didn't have to
Speaker 5: worry about playing third base, and he goes out to
Speaker 5: right field and he's starting now. He slumped a little
Speaker 5: bit towards the end. I get that, but for the
Speaker 5: most part, he pitched, played really well and hit really
Speaker 5: well once they moved into the ray field. And I
Speaker 5: think that can be the same case with Ellie day
Speaker 5: La Cruz. I Mean, the one thing I worry about
Speaker 5: him is he plays so hard. I don't want him
Speaker 5: banging into the wall every other night, you know, and
Speaker 5: and hurting himself. So but I think you have to
Speaker 5: make that move. But defensively, I really do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just way too many errors, and you know,
Speaker 1: you could tell just by looking at him they definitely
Speaker 1: got to him too. So I mean, I hope that's
Speaker 1: something that they can work on over the off season.
Speaker 1: Last question, you had this year team record eighty three
Speaker 1: seventy nine, fourteen games behind Milwaukee. Was it what you
Speaker 1: thought it would be better, worse?
Speaker 2: Or where do you come down on that.
Speaker 5: About the same when the season started. I thought eighty five,
Speaker 5: so eighty three they were close, and you give her
Speaker 5: you know, you can swing either way on that because
Speaker 5: you get lucky a couple of games and maybe you
Speaker 5: have those eighty five wins. So I think they were
Speaker 5: right about where everybody thought they would be, you know,
Speaker 5: in the division. I didn't think anybody think the Brewers
Speaker 5: would take off the way they took. Oh, I know,
Speaker 5: you know, you know, you just give it another year,
Speaker 5: and I think you can. I mean, I think you
Speaker 5: need to. I think this team needs to shoot for
Speaker 5: you know, eighty five wins won't be acceptable next year.
Speaker 5: I think you need eighty eight to ninety to make
Speaker 5: the postseason. And I think that's what they have to.
Speaker 5: They have to gear everything toward well.
Speaker 1: And you know, they kind of spoiled us with the
Speaker 1: eighty three and seventy nine. I didn't think they'd do
Speaker 1: that well, but obviously they did well. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: It's not that far away from opening day.
Speaker 2: It's uh.
Speaker 1: They open with Boston on March twenty sixth, so we
Speaker 1: don't have too long to go, and.
Speaker 2: You'll probably be going down in Florida, all right, excuse
Speaker 2: me Arizona.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the first spring training game is normally
Speaker 5: the third Saturday in or yeah, February, so around the
Speaker 5: twentieth something like that will be the first spring training game.
Speaker 5: And since it's and I'm almost guaranteed it's going to
Speaker 5: be against the Guardians, since that's the first game they
Speaker 5: play every year for the past sixteen years.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they share that they shared.
Speaker 5: Conn Day in February. Will be there and you'll hear
Speaker 5: it live and you'll probably maybe s work over some
Speaker 5: money and come down there too.
Speaker 2: I knew that was coming.
Speaker 6: It's funny that you've been at someplace.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of thinking about it.
Speaker 1: Hey, you, I really appreciate all of your help and
Speaker 1: your wisdom over this past year and looking forward to
Speaker 1: talking to you again next year.
Speaker 5: I don't know how much wisdom there was, but I
Speaker 5: appreciate it. I love doing it, Mike. So we'll talk
Speaker 5: to you in February.
Speaker 2: Sounds good, buddy, Thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, David d Armbrus, you're on our Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. I probably went to more games,
Speaker 1: and yes, yet I paid for most of them. I
Speaker 1: went to more games this year than I think I
Speaker 1: have since the Big Red Machine days. It's a fun
Speaker 1: ball team to watch, it really is, and the ambiance
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere at Great American Ballpark it's hard to
Speaker 1: find anything that's better than that. So as far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, very successful season, but as you had said,
Speaker 1: looking for more next year. Hey, I'm out of time,
Speaker 1: so I am out of here. Mike Allen seven hundred
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