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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday.

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Speaker 2: A beautiful Saturday morning would be a nice weekend. I'd

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Speaker 2: read the weather right.

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Speaker 1: Another short show today out of here at eleven because

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Speaker 1: of the UC Iowa State game. You see's really impressing

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Speaker 1: some people three and one and Iowa State is five

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Speaker 1: and oh their fourteenth ranks, So if you see can

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Speaker 1: knock them off, maybe they'll crack the top twenty top

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Speaker 1: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: But before I do anything, I would be.

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Speaker 1: Remiss if I didn't think and congratulate my beloved Elder

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Speaker 1: Panthers last night beat number one in the state, the

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Speaker 1: Molar Crusaders, always a tough opponent. Elder wins the GCL

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Speaker 1: South title for the first time in a while. This week,

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Speaker 1: Elder was sixth in the state ratings. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that they'll move up to one, but they should move

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Speaker 1: up quite a bit. But congratulations to the Elder Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Big victory at the pit last night. You know, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you for a little bit here.

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Speaker 1: Some shocking, at least shocking to me polling that I

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Speaker 1: saw this week with respect to people's opinion about socialism,

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's hard for me to believe when

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Speaker 1: I give you these numbers that they are what they are.

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Speaker 1: But let me give them to you first and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it. This is Gallop, and they measured American's

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Speaker 1: opinions of various economic systems, mainly socialism. They started doing this,

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Speaker 1: Gallup did in twenty ten, and they've done it. Let's

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Speaker 1: see repeated the question six times since then. Anyway, Democrats

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Speaker 1: and independence view capitalism less positively this year, each showing

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Speaker 1: eight percentage point declines. In twenty twenty one. For the

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Speaker 1: first time, less than half of Democrats forty two percent,

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Speaker 1: view capitalism positively, while a slight majority of independents fifty

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Speaker 1: one percent still do. Republicans' views not unsurprisingly, about seventy

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Speaker 1: percent support capitalism. But when you get to socialism, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is what really bothers me. Democrats positive view of socialism.

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Speaker 1: In twenty ten it was fifty percent. It is now

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Speaker 1: sixty six percent of Democrats view socialism positively. And it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: sixty six percent to forty two percent.

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Speaker 2: So and it's I don't know if I haven't.

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Speaker 1: The numbers of among young people are even worse. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's really disheartening when you see that, and you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes I ask myself, are we gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: dig ourselves out of this hole?

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Speaker 2: Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Thinking about it, it's not really surprising when you stop

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Speaker 1: to think that the indoctrination.

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Speaker 2: Begins now in grade school.

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Speaker 1: Used to be high school and then college, but it

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Speaker 1: begins in grade school now, which is not surprising when

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Speaker 1: you have a teachers union, actually two of them, who

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Speaker 1: could give one damn about students and how they're doing

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Speaker 1: at test scores. All they do is get involved in

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Speaker 1: political activity. Randy Weingartner, I think she's the president of

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Speaker 1: the American Federation of Teachers. I have never seen, and

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a while, I have never

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Speaker 1: seen a public statement from her that said, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: So it's really, I guess, no surprise that these numbers

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Speaker 1: are what they are. These kids they don't know what

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Speaker 1: socialism is, they have no idea, and you know, their

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Speaker 1: crap on it. Here's another just a brief part of

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Speaker 1: a poll May twenty twenty five Cato Institute you gov.

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Speaker 1: That poll found that sixty two percent of Americans aged

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Speaker 2: A favorable view of socialism.

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Speaker 1: So and again, to repeat what they just said, sixty

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Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons is, as I

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Speaker 1: never has and you know, the support of socialism in

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Speaker 1: spite of the fact that it has been tried and

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Speaker 1: it has failed in so many countries. That's the thing

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest example in my lifetime of a

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one, Thank you, Ronald Reagan. After decades

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Speaker 2: It just collapsed of its own weight.

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Speaker 1: So there would be an example for you, professor, if

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Speaker 1: you dare to teach your kids something like that. East

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Speaker 1: just like the USSR. That fueled dissatisfaction, which led to

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Speaker 1: the reunification in nineteen ninety. Venezuela, which was once the

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Speaker 1: severe shortages of food and medicine, mass emigration. So probably

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Speaker 1: the best example, going along with the Soviet Union. Ninety

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Speaker 1: The pended for years upon the Soviet Union to help

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Speaker 1: And from what everything that I have seen and read,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are really struggling. So you know, that's

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Speaker 1: another one. Professor, maybe you can teach your students about that.

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Speaker 1: But I ain't going to hold my breath. But again,

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Speaker 1: it's all about indoctrination, in doctrinating these young people to

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Speaker 1: is just nonsense.

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Speaker 2: And I got this.

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Speaker 1: From AI view supporting me in doctrination claim, but I

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Speaker 1: about ninety percent of the time I find that they

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Speaker 1: give it to you, right, They do give you both

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Speaker 1: But anyway, they go on to say, some commentators, often

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Speaker 1: from conservative and libertarians think tanks, attribute growing support for

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Speaker 1: a leftist bias in education in the media. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that exists leftist bias and education in the media.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the reasons why they talk

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Speaker 1: when they talk about indoctrination. The kids suck it up

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Speaker 1: Education critics claim the education system from high school through

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Speaker 1: fails to provide a balanced economic education. Lack of soft

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Speaker 1: lack of economic understanding. Critics also point to polls showing

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Speaker 1: that many young people cannot accurately define socialism or free enterprise,

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Speaker 1: suggesting their support is based on a superficial understanding rather

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Speaker 1: that's what you get, and that's why I think those

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Speaker 1: should frighten people. I mean, you've got the situation with Mondami.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be New York City's next mayor. You

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Speaker 1: a socialist. So you know, again with respect to Mandami,

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Speaker 1: he promises to make workers' lives better by raising the

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Speaker 1: want people to make as much money as they can,

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Speaker 1: fast food people, whatever. But that's unworkable. I mean, it's popular,

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Speaker 1: but it's just dumb and it's unrealistic. Last year, you

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Speaker 1: Listen to this, California fast food workers lost jobs.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen thousand of them lost jobs.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's a situation where young people think

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Speaker 1: it's good, but when you apply it, maybe not so much. Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: as I said, the vice president of the Minneapolis Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: City Council is a socialist.

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Speaker 2: She has said, where has socialism? Oh?

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Speaker 1: She was asked a question where his socialism ever worked?

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Speaker 1: She was silent and interminable nine seconds. Finally she said,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a fine job representing my community. Question where

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Speaker 2: There you go. I mean, this person is the vice

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Speaker 1: George Will call Umn this to who you haven't heard

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Speaker 1: much from in a long time, he said, And a

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Speaker 1: lot of people feel like this.

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Speaker 2: He says.

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Speaker 1: He wants Mondami to win because every years we need

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Speaker 1: of with George Will on this. I mean nothing against

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Speaker 1: they ought to teach it. They ought to teach it properly.

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Speaker 1: They ought to teach it fairly. But I ain't holding

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Speaker 1: DHS Secretary of Christian I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 2: This just shows you the pettiness of the left.

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Speaker 1: She was actually blocked from using a bathroom at an

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how petty the left can be. You know,

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Speaker 1: they don't like her. And boy, if you're watching that

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Speaker 1: only getting worse. I mean, it's just it's a bad

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Speaker 1: situation out there, and it's a situation where, you know, cops,

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Speaker 1: the Portland Police apparently are not covering over on runs

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Speaker 1: that the Ice agents have, you know, dangerous runs sometimes,

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Speaker 1: and that runs just the antithesis of what cops do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, cops back up cops, whether it's your department

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Speaker 1: or another department. But they have been ordered by their administration,

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Speaker 1: by the mayor.

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Speaker 2: Not to do that.

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Speaker 1: And that's not good. I mean, obviously it's not good.

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Speaker 1: It's not good for the police, it's not good for

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Speaker 1: the public. I mean, it's real simple. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's too simple. We have a federal law that

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Speaker 1: prohibits trespassing into our country, period, full stop, and it's

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Speaker 1: been on the books for a long time, so we've

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Speaker 2: That's ICE.

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Speaker 1: And now you have a situation where cops, Portland cops,

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Speaker 5: Thanks for taking the call.

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Speaker 4: My pleasure a little bit, Leary, and I want your

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you what would you have them do?

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Speaker 4: I would have some immigration some of these executive orders

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Speaker 6: They can have an excuse like, well, you know, it's.

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Speaker 4: It is a perfect opportunity for them to stand up

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Speaker 3: It's kind of milk toast.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of status quo.

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Speaker 3: That's what I see. No, it had done very little.

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Speaker 2: But I understand what you're saying. I got a ton

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Speaker 4: Sure, if we don't fight back at all with all

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Speaker 1: Well, let me do this. I'll answer your question. I

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Speaker 7: Hey, how's it going today?

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Speaker 2: I'm good man.

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Speaker 7: I've got two things for you.

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Speaker 7: Positive note, Even the younger twenty crowd knows that they're

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Speaker 7: Let me let me give you an example. Yesterday, as

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Speaker 7: Were laughing about it like it was a comedy routine,

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Speaker 2: I think they are.

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Speaker 7: But you know there are nuggets of hope out there.

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Speaker 7: How do you a broken Jack Lanner?

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Speaker 7: Here's a pumpkin patch.

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Speaker 1: Very good and it was clean thanks, Berry, appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: That was pretty good. Let me talk to Jeff and Zenia.

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Speaker 1: Hey Jeff, good morning, Hey.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to back up your idea.

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Speaker 8: But you know, the one question that I've always asked

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't either.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you ever like google it, you know

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Speaker 3: I'll give him a shot.

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Speaker 5: Hey, great show, Michael. Lets you get to other people.

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Speaker 1: think he was going to go to jail.

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Speaker 2: He thought he'd get time served. Well he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Just the horrific things that all you need to do

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Speaker 1: to know about that guy is just look at the

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Speaker 1: video of him beaten the living daylights out of that

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Speaker 1: woman in the hall. So I have no sympathy for him.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be a guest of the federal government

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Speaker 1: for a while, and I think that's appropriate.

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Speaker 6: I got a question for you, Mike, Yeah, well what

450
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Speaker 6: about to shut down? What do you think of no end?

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know. It's kind of a

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Speaker 1: game of scare down now. But to me looking at it,

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Speaker 1: it comes down to one thing, and I think you'll

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Speaker 1: get at least a lot of Republicans telling you this

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Speaker 1: one thing. The Democrats want to pay. I don't have

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Speaker 1: the figure in front of me, billions of dollars for

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Speaker 1: through I guess Obamacare for medical cost for illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: The Republicans do not want that in there, they don't

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Speaker 1: want to pay for it. Of course, the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: doing their slight hand on it. And if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: the Republicans need to hold out, and I kind of

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Speaker 1: think they are. And I think the Democrats, especially Schumer,

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Speaker 1: are looking real bad on this thing. And probably the

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Speaker 1: number two reason and that this should not be a

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Speaker 1: reason for it, is Chucky Schumer. He's got Aoz breathing

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Speaker 1: down his neck in New York.

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Speaker 2: I think she's gonna blow him away.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's got a cozy up to his

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Speaker 1: radical left.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just my thoughts on it.

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Speaker 6: Steve Yes, sir, thank you, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the Republicans win the pr war on this one.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how much farther it's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll get it done this week. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: and this might sound selfish, but since the government has

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Speaker 1: shut down, it hasn't affected my life at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the federal government shutting down. I mean what I think

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Speaker 1: of think of all the money that they're gonna save,

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Speaker 1: and it kind of he opens things for doge to

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Speaker 1: go in and look for savings. Yeah, and I like

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Speaker 1: when they say only essential workers have to come to work. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what is an essential worker?

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think so far in a PR battle, we're winning,

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Speaker 1: not by much and the Democrats are losing. But we'll

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Speaker 1: have to see. Hey, let's talk to Frank. Hey, Good morning, Franky.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Mike, how you doing.

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Speaker 6: I haven't talked to you in a while, sir, Thanks

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Speaker 6: for calling, absolutely so I in true form. You all

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Speaker 6: just have such great conversations. You have great callers. I

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Speaker 6: could speak about a million things with you. But taking

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Speaker 6: it back to this ignorance of socialism, I couldn't agree

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Speaker 6: with you more. I think the country as a whole

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Speaker 6: is kind of confused about what this means. So I'm

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Speaker 6: wondering why you and other Republican pundits aren't shouting at

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Speaker 6: the sky with the government taking a ten percent share

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Speaker 6: of Intel like Trump did, or taking a share in

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Speaker 6: the lithium a mining company like they are. Or it

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Speaker 6: looks like soybean farmers are getting crushed with his tariff.

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Speaker 3: And if you.

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Speaker 6: Remember from Trump one point zero, the same thing happened.

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Speaker 6: Farmers were getting killed so we cut them a huge

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Speaker 6: check billions of dollars. Why aren't we yelling about socialism

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Speaker 6: when Trump does it? Because that's a socialist policy.

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Speaker 2: And what was your first one that you talked about? Intel?

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Speaker 6: We have a ten percent stake in Intel.

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Speaker 1: Now you know what, I don't agree with that. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, we don't need to be involved

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Speaker 1: in that stuff. And I know Trump.

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Speaker 6: Where is the outrage about socialism? When Trump does it?

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Speaker 6: There's no outrage whatsoever. It's crickets but anything. It's Oh,

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Speaker 6: he's a genius what he did, He's a business genius.

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Speaker 2: What do you want us to do? Frank, get it

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Speaker 2: in the streets and riot like the other side. Does

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Speaker 2: you know? No?

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Speaker 1: I rank Sorry, listen, you'll never get that out of

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Speaker 1: a liberal ever.

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Speaker 2: I said, I think it's wrong to do that. I do.

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Speaker 1: But if you weigh it out with the other things

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Speaker 1: he's done, that scale goes way down. I mean, on

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Speaker 1: the side of the good things that he's done. I

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Speaker 1: get it, well, I get it, And there has been

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Speaker 1: some squealing about it.

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Speaker 6: But not only you're you're you're you're a free market capitalist.

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Speaker 6: But aren't tariffs The antithesis of capitalism, of free market capitalism.

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 6: I don't the protectionist policy. It's protectionist. I don't believe

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Speaker 6: that are all people to get from certain things.

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Speaker 1: Well, why shouldn't we have other countries be equal to

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Speaker 1: us with respect to tariffs?

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Speaker 6: I don't understand the archaistic it's a tax on us.

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Speaker 6: Tariffs are attacks on citizens, not on to anybody else.

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Speaker 6: We're the ones that pay that it triples down to us.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the first time I've heard the argument

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Speaker 1: that tariff's I know a lot of people don't like him.

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Speaker 1: I get that, but that they're socialism, So you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: One more, one more point. I know you've got a

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Speaker 6: lot of callers, but you said you know our side

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Speaker 6: never right. It's all points you in one specific January

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Speaker 6: January six.

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Speaker 2: Give me another one, will you please?

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Speaker 6: Well, how about the one when our capital was attacked

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Speaker 6: because sore losers didn't like?

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Speaker 2: Another one? Frank, you can't get.

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Speaker 6: The worst one in the history of the country. It's

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Speaker 6: the only time our capital is the uh crap smeared

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Speaker 6: on the walls and they all got they all got

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Speaker 6: part of officer.

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Speaker 1: Listen to me again. I'll tell you I hated that.

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Speaker 1: I hated watching that, but it was one occasion when

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Speaker 1: you got numerous occasions with the other sides.

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Speaker 2: I do appreciate the call, I really do.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Mike.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Let's talk to uh Keegan. Hey, good morning, Kagan, Hey,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Thanks for staying my call.

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Speaker 6: I'm calling to respond to the previous caller that just

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Speaker 6: got off the line. Yeah, numerous things.

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Speaker 3: That are out of day.

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Speaker 6: First off, with regards to J six, I love the

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Speaker 6: lack of momentary of the now exposed two hundred and

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Speaker 6: seventy five FBI eight and somewherebted and all of that.

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Speaker 6: Plus you have numerous people on the right and even

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Speaker 6: the middle that were immediately decrying all of it, alongside

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Speaker 6: with the left. So it was obviously a ridiculous thing

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Speaker 6: on its face, and you're getting no argument from that. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: all the BLM riots went, you know, completely unnoticed. I

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Speaker 6: guess when two billion dollars worth of damage was done

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Speaker 6: to property all around the United States. The other thing

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Speaker 6: is with regards to tiff Now, I'm no fan. I'm

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Speaker 6: a small business owner which deals with product on both

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Speaker 6: the domestic and international fronts. You know, he's mentioning the

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Speaker 6: soybean argument as if it's not directly affected by China,

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Speaker 6: who is, in all intents and purposes, our enemy. It's

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Speaker 6: a reality. They steal our ip left and right. It's

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Speaker 6: not like we're dealing with like Certainly, of course people

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Speaker 6: on the right are, you know, pro capitalism and free

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Speaker 6: market capitalism. But that conversation ends when you're one dealing

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Speaker 6: with an adversary and two dealing with an adversary that

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Speaker 6: is also not capitalistic and is stealing our property left

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Speaker 6: and right. So I think it's completely out of base

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Speaker 6: and intentionally, it's almost like guilt biomission. It's intentionally ignoring

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Speaker 6: crucial facts that doesn't paint the full picture.

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Speaker 1: Well, that sounds like what the left does. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for the call, Kegan, I really do tears. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he picked me up on that one,

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Speaker 1: and everything that he said is right with respect to

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Speaker 1: Jay six.

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Speaker 2: I watched that.

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Speaker 1: I was urinated off at obviously the people there and

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Speaker 1: Trump too.

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Speaker 2: I mean I hated it.

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Speaker 1: But when I asked him about three times, okay, give

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Speaker 1: me another one, Well there isn't because that's not what

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Speaker 1: we do anyway, Well, I got a lot of other calls,

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Speaker 1: but again, short show, so we got to take a break.

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Speaker 1: When we get back, we're going to talk to Attorney

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Speaker 1: James Bogan. Now, what's going on in some recent victories

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Speaker 1: in the whole war of men or women pretending men

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Speaker 1: pretending to be women in women's sports.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that when we get back. Mike.

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati football Fans, Regular Contracting is running the ultimate combo

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Speaker 6: play Bundle your.

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Speaker 2: New roof with seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen with hour two, which is the final hour

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Speaker 1: today Saturday midday because of the UC game.

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Speaker 2: I am out of here in eleven.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I tell you what, there's some good news continues

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Speaker 1: to be good news on the whole situation with men

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Speaker 1: pretending to be girls in girls sports. Here to talk

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Speaker 1: about it is a guy that keeps up on it

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Speaker 1: talking about Attorney James Bogan. You can hear him. He's

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Speaker 1: on this channel quite a bit, and he is a podcast.

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Speaker 1: It is a really good podcast called Past the Clock.

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Speaker 1: I know you can get it on iHeart, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you can get it on other platforms. James, thanks

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Speaker 1: for calling in this morning.

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Speaker 3: Mike, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's start with Bostock versus Clayton County, which is

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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty United States Supreme Court case. They kind

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Speaker 1: of looked at that and not made changes, but kind

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Speaker 1: of clarified some things.

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Speaker 2: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 3: That was the case that the Auto Pen Administration and

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Speaker 3: wrongly interpreted to say, hey, this means guys should be

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Speaker 3: allowed in girls' sports. But if you look at the

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Speaker 3: plain language of this opinion, the court expressly stated this

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Speaker 3: only applied to discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender

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Speaker 3: identity and nothing else in the workplace. Right, And they're

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Speaker 3: saying they specifically stated it doesn't apply to bathrooms, locker rooms,

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Speaker 3: or anything else of the kind. It only applies to

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Speaker 3: employment discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity, and

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Speaker 3: nothing else. Now, I don't know how you could read

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Speaker 3: the opinion in plain English and think it says, hey,

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Speaker 3: you should allow guys in girls' sports.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know how the left is and their attorneys

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Speaker 1: are the same way. They'll take any interpretation they can

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Speaker 1: to quote unquote win.

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Speaker 2: When do you think they'll.

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Speaker 3: Interpret two plus two equals sixth that it fits their purposes?

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Speaker 1: When do you think they'll rule on the marriage of

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Speaker 1: the case, or had they already done.

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Speaker 3: So no, they already did that. That's just the case

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Speaker 3: for the background, right. But you know what you've got here.

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Speaker 3: We've got two big things going on right now. We've

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Speaker 3: got that lawsuit by Riley Gaines and the nineteen other

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Speaker 3: plaintiffs that was filed in federal court in Atlanta last

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Speaker 3: year that just got past a significant hurdle, along with

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Speaker 3: that other case that the Supreme Court just took in

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Speaker 3: July about law in Idaho in West Virginia that banned

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Speaker 3: guys from girls' sports.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. You mentioned the Riley Gaines case.

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Speaker 1: I saw that too, James, tell my listeners what happened there,

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Speaker 1: and I guess it was a small loss, but a

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Speaker 1: pretty big win in other ways.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big win overall. Because the Title nine

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Speaker 3: claims against the NCAA's stay, they can go forward. The

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Speaker 3: plans can go forward on those because the judge, who

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Speaker 3: by the way, is an auto pen appoint he said

661
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Speaker 3: that the plaintiffs have plausibly alleged that the NCAA receives

662
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: federal financial assistance and is therefore subject to the requirements

663
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: that Title nine. But some other stuff got dropped, like

664
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Speaker 3: saying that they have not plausibly alleged a violation of

665
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: right to privacy. That's for the guys and girls locker

666
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: rooms part, and some other stuff, I mean, the title

667
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 3: nine stuff, that's the meat of it, right, But the

668
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: main goals of this lawsuit are to keep guys out

669
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Speaker 3: of girls sports and girls locker rooms and mandatory gender

670
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Speaker 3: testing because the NCAA does not have gender testing, And

671
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 3: contrary to the what the left says saying it's gonna

672
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: be invasive genital exams, it's actually nothing more than a

673
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: cheek swab maybe a blood test to test for chromosomes.

674
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 3: They don't look at anybody's junk.

675
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, And I'm glad you clarified that part.

676
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: It's just a situation where they're gonna twist anything to

677
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: fit with their narrative. But it looks like that one

678
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: is going to come to fruition at the Supreme Court

679
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: at some point, I mean, on the full case.

680
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Eventually, Yes, it will.

681
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: Do you have any idea when, uh?

682
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: No, I mean right now, it's still in the trial phase,

683
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: so it's gonna take some years. But you have that

684
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: Idaho in wet'st Virginia protecting women's sports laws that are

685
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court just took. And the funny thing is

686
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: the plaint if in the Idaho case is now trying

687
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: to dismiss her if. They're trying to dismiss their case

688
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: pretty much because they know they're going to get their

689
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: rear ends whooped when they when they're in front of

690
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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court.

691
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Speaker 1: YEP, I get that. Hey, James, I ask you this

692
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: question every time I talk to you. Are we still

693
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: winning this battle? It sure sounds like we are.

694
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: We are winning this I mean. The thing. The bottom line, though,

695
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 3: is here's the underpinning that the far left is trying

696
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: to make everybody forget. When guy someone goes through puberty

697
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: as a male, they gain certain permanent advantages that don't

698
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: go away from hormones and blockers. Yeah, bigger muscles, bigger

699
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: long capacity, bigger frame, stronger tenants, stronger ligaments, more muscle density,

700
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: and you see my better have. Shannon Campbell, she does bodybuilding.

701
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: If she was to start taking steroids, she wouldn't get

702
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: anywhere near to where I am. Because if women take steroids,

703
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: they don't suddenly become as good as men. That's where

704
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: you have to Title nine violation. But if men start

705
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: taking hormones, then they don't beat their ability does not

706
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 3: regress down the level of women. Men's and women's performances

707
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: differences about ten to twelve percent. And is you've heard

708
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: me mentioned before? Leah Thomas's time in the two hundred

709
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: yard freestyle only regressed by two point six six percent

710
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: after a year of hormones and blockers, went from being

711
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Speaker 3: number four hundred and sixty five mon college men to

712
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: number one mon college women. I mean, imagine if I

713
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Speaker 3: decided to get on stage and compete against Shannon and

714
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: her bodybuilding competition.

715
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, James, Can I tell you something?

716
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: I think she probably I think she probably could take you.

717
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: She could tell you or me together.

718
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: I think, oh, you know what all she needs to

719
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 3: do to kick our butts is start singing and we're done.

720
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 3: Remember I told you Persne's medieval torture, I'll put I'll

721
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Speaker 3: add this to it. You know how will Ealy jokes

722
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: about harambe right, if Harambi had not been shot dead

723
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: that faithful day, Shannon would have killed him with her singing,

724
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Speaker 3: and we'd be saying Shannon Campbell killed Harambe.

725
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Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, you're gonna get it when you get home.

726
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: You know you better watch.

727
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: Oh I gave her a head up, but yeah, she's

728
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: still gonna kill me, and you know what, I deserve it.

729
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: There you go.

730
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Speaker 1: Hey, let's move on too. We are gonna talk about

731
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Speaker 1: the Komy indictment. I'll tell you one thing, James, and

732
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Speaker 1: I'll ask you if you agree, this is, without question,

733
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Speaker 1: the shortest federal indictment that I have ever seen. I mean,

734
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Speaker 1: I guess it's not they didn't take it to the

735
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Speaker 1: grand jury. I guess it's in the nature of a

736
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: complaint two pages. Have you ever seen a federal case

737
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: in anything that is only two pages long in a

738
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: criminal case?

739
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: Might every drug case I've had in federal course been

740
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: a lot longer than this?

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

742
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: I think it seemed to me there's probably merit to it, James,

743
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, do you think they'll be able to

744
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: prove this thing beyond a reasonable doubt?

745
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: You know what they have to focus on the nuts

746
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: and bolts. Did he lie to set the Senate Judiciary Committee?

747
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: And if the answer is yes, focus on those nuts

748
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: and bolts clear through the smoke screen that the defense

749
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: is gonna do. I mean, here's here's the funny thing.

750
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: Komy has always urged prosecuting high level perjury cases. Remember

751
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: he was the lead prosecutor in Martha Stewart's case, and

752
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: he's basically now taking the approach rules for thee but

753
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: not for me. And this thing totally centers around the

754
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: fact that he lied to Congress about his role in

755
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: promoting the Russian collusion hopes, where he was pretty much

756
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: the one who spearheaded it after and you saw evidence

757
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: of that, more evidence of that from that document dump

758
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: that Tulca Gabbert did a couple months back that basically

759
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: showed that Comy was completely spearheading this thing. He's like,

760
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 3: I don't care what your investigation says we have. We're

761
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: dissenting from these findings quote based on some new guidance.

762
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: The new guidance was wanting to get Trump.

763
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Speaker 1: It's obvious to anyone that has ever looked into this,

764
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: and even superficially. But again, I just worry about proof

765
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt. Let me ask you this, where's

766
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: the venue for this? Is it DC or somewhere Virginia

767
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: somewhere or do you know.

768
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 3: It's in Virginia. I think, yeah, that it was that

769
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Speaker 3: that that's the US Attorney's office that's taking it.

770
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's better than DC, you know what, still not friendly,

771
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know what.

772
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the prosecutors. They're gonna need to focus on

773
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: the nuts and bolts.

774
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is pretty simple.

775
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, but again, getting twelve to agree on it,

776
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: and obviously, obviously I hope the man is convicted because

777
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: he deserves it, you know. And another thing, James, I

778
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: don't expect you to comment on this unless you want to,

779
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: because as a lawyer, maybe I shouldn't say it.

780
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: You know.

781
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: I heard somebody talking about these things one time and

782
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: says the process is the punishment. I mean, normally I

783
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. But and another, I mean, politics is

784
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: about payback. It's a big part of it. I don't

785
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: know if you want to comment on that, fine, if

786
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: you will, Well.

787
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: There is something be said about the idea. I'm not

788
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: going to sit there and say you should prosecute him

789
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: because the process is punishment. That's completely improper. But just

790
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: simple maths. Nobody likes being put through the process. Just

791
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: ask our president.

792
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, you know, and that's the thing. And I

793
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: agree with you from a lawyer's point of view on that.

794
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, you think about all the crap they

795
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: put Donald Trump through, and I get a kick out

796
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: of every time one of them starts squealing about something

797
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: like this. I mean, go back four years, Hell, go

798
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: back twelve years. And yeah, you peached the man twice.

799
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: Obviously the Senate didn't convict and lord knows how many

800
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: other criminal cases in civil cases. So from a citizen's

801
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: point of view, James Bogan, they're getting what they deserve.

802
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that as a lawyer though,

803
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: but anyway.

804
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me put it this way. I'm not exactly

805
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: wringing my hands about this.

806
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: But very very very well put Hey, let's talk about

807
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: mister p Diddy. Yesterday, the judge gave him four years.

808
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he thought that he was going to

809
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: prison or back to prison. I think he thought that

810
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: he was going to get time served. I saw some

811
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: reports somewhere James, within the last day or so where

812
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: he had gigs and all kinds of so called important

813
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: stuff up set up pretty close to when he would

814
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: have gotten out if the judge did give him time served.

815
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that he gets it yet, but I

816
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: don't know your thoughts on.

817
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: That that is complete where it was completely idiotic on

818
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: his part. Alan Dershwitz waited on this too, saying it

819
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: was a slap in the face and he couldn't imagine.

820
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine anything more stupid to do before sentencing.

821
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Speaker 1: I know.

822
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: That's just like when you tell a client these are

823
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: the things you do not say or do before sentencing,

824
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: and they go, gee, I think I'll do all of them,

825
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: and then wonder why they got it work sentence. Now, overall,

826
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: his sense of fifty months, which he'll probably he could

827
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: get up to fifteen percent off and be out by

828
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: April twenty twenty eight is still relatively not a bad sentence.

829
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Speaker 3: I mean, the prosecutors were arguing for eleven years to

830
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: try to save Faith for blowing around ten million of

831
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 3: our tax dollars for what was basically a glorified state

832
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: prostitution case. And the arguments they used that's sentencing about

833
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: how bad he is and so on for the with

834
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: based on the evidence they presented, which no doubt did

835
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: he's a dirt bag, okay, but you don't convict because

836
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: someone is a dirt bag. And those arguments clearly didn't

837
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: sway the jury on the more serious counts, but they

838
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: open up the door for the defense to have one

839
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: of issue on appeal saying that the court considered a

840
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: quitted conduct. I mean the court can also I mean

841
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: the defense can also argue improper guideline calculation, because I

842
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: bet some months back I might have told you this,

843
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 3: Mark garrett Goes, by the way, whose daughter was on

844
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 3: the defense game, Mark gerrat Goes, being h you know,

845
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: one of the biggest names in our profession. He had

846
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 3: calculated something to maybe about a year and a half

847
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 3: or so. And that's what I'm thinking.

848
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: Of it.

849
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's somewhere in that range. Yeah, he

850
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: was calculating something like that. And you know, but I

851
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: have a hard time, would have a hard time believing

852
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: that the judge did not consider that. Did he arrange

853
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: these stupid speaking engagements. He should have been focusing on

854
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: showing remorse. Yeah, the only thing he should have been

855
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 3: focusing on.

856
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: You know, And you described probably the most I guess

857
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: agreedious thing with defense attorneys visa VI their clients when

858
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: you tell them that don't do this. Don't do that,

859
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: you'll piss the judge off. Don't do this, and they

860
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: do it anyway, then they squeal when they don't get

861
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: what they thought they should have gotten.

862
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: It's just very frustrating.

863
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I'll just go out in a personal

864
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: store on that. A couple of years ago, I had

865
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: a client in Warren County who they had a gun

866
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: case and he fired it and he's sitting there saying

867
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: stuff like he was happy with what he did, and

868
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: he was playing to get another gun and basically completely

869
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: put his foot in his mouth, topped his wing into prison.

870
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: And even my lock up client who was at the

871
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 3: defense table what I got done, was watching us think

872
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: that was horrible. But even another inmate says, you're horrible.

873
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: It's like, you know how bad it is.

874
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean again, they pay you a good coin for

875
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: doing that. They ought to listen to what the heck

876
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: that you say I did? Here mentioned this morning on

877
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: some report that he's planning on appealing. You mentioned James Bogan.

878
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: You can appeal the guideline calculation. And just for listeners

879
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: who don't know the federal guidelines in a federal criminal case,

880
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: there are guidelines that the court. When it first came out,

881
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: they were mandatory. They are now advisory, but they're still important.

882
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: What do you think about the chances of appeal on

883
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: that issue in any other issue?

884
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm take a look and see what happens,

885
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: because overall, he got a pretty good sentence.

886
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: He sure did. I think he sure did.

887
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: He got to take that four years and run and again,

888
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: I think he was locked up about a year, wasn't he.

889
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, with the time off for good behavior,

890
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: he could be in for only maybe another two and

891
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: a half years.

892
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. They don't think that way.

893
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: And you know, the guy, the guy dodged a big

894
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: old bullet. And you know, sometimes you just got to

895
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: shut up and take what you're what you're given when

896
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: it's obviously a fair and, if anything, a light sentence.

897
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: But I appreciate your should.

898
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: He should stop buying baby oil and mass quantity too.

899
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably got a lot left he can bring

900
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: to prison with him, though.

901
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: James appreciates your playing in with us.

902
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: Bill.

903
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: Well, you're certainly welcome, Mike. It's always a privilege.

904
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you, Mike.

905
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, James, Bogan talking about P Diddy's case.

906
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, the guy got off pretty darn light,

907
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: so he ought to quit his whining and complaining do

908
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: his time. I don't know what kind of setup he's

909
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: got up in prison there, but federal prisons. I'll tell

910
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: you what I've been in federal and local, not local

911
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: state prisons. They are compared to a state prison. It's

912
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: like the holiday inn. So he probably ain't hurting too

913
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: bad in there. Hey, we got to take a break

914
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: butt when we get back. The last Reds report of

915
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: the season with our man David he Armbusher. Got a

916
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of questions for you, and we'll do that when

917
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: we get back. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. Hey we're

918
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: back Mike Allen, Saturday midday. Well, obviously, the red season

919
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: ended this week with two playoff losses to the LA Dodgers.

920
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: Just to give you an idea of how they did,

921
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: and this is according to a the batting stats for

922
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Reds hit two fifty their batting average eleven

923
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: hits at sixty four at bats. With respect to pitching,

924
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: I think it was a lot better than that, but

925
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to check it. Anyway here to talk

926
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: about it as our guy for all things Cincinnati Reds.

927
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: David Dye, Arm Brewster, yid your thoughts.

928
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 5: It's a bummer that had ended the way it ended.

929
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 5: It really is, because they had a good season and

930
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 5: then you go into LA and you get beat and

931
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 5: you know, both games were decided before the game was

932
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 5: even halfway old. That was that's the meat, just the

933
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 5: bummer part of it that they couldn't you know, couldn't

934
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: score enough early to keep that game in check, either

935
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 5: one of them, you know, and it just it's it

936
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 5: kind of hurts. I was really disappointed with the out

937
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: hunter green Head. Yeah, you know, you only end up

938
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 5: going three innings and giving up five runs and three

939
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 5: home runs, and those were just killers. You know, the

940
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 5: lead off home run to o Tiny That doesn't bother me.

941
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 5: That's fine, it's going to happen. But then he gives

942
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 5: up too in the next inning or the third inning,

943
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 5: whatever it was, and it just that just took the

944
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 5: air out of the balloon right there.

945
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: Do you think it was butterflies? He was nervous?

946
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 5: I hope not. I mean, that guy's pitched in a

947
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 5: you know, he's getting paid a lot of money for

948
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 5: a reason, right, I think I think everybody that goes

949
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: in there, as I would imagine, it's a little bit nervous.

950
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 5: But after you throw that first pitch, all that stuff

951
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 5: better go away, or you know, you're not a professional.

952
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: So I don't.

953
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 5: I don't think it was that. I don't. I guess

954
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 5: you know, his pitches where where they can hit him, basically,

955
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 5: So you know, that was just that was just disappointed.

956
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 5: Tell that a little better than night next night, but still,

957
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 5: you know, not enough. You got to hold that lead,

958
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 5: especially given the fact that the Dodgers' bullpen is not

959
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 5: very good. I don't think this team's that team's going

960
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 5: to go along and as good as they can hit,

961
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 5: that bullpen is very hittable, and the Reds proved that

962
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 5: in that first game.

963
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you look at the twenty twenty five

964
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: season stats.

965
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: Not too bad.

966
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Pitching, well, that's not that good. Eighty three seventy nine

967
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: wait minute stopped. Oh, they finished one to eighty three,

968
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 1: lost seventy nine, fourteen games behind the Brewers. Okay, the ninth,

969
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five batting average, two forty five, sixteen

970
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: home runs, they're twenty first out of thirty on that

971
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty six home runs six hundred and

972
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: seventy seven RBIs right in the middle of the pack.

973
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: But pitching, this won't surprise anybody.

974
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: They were twelve out of the thirty teams with a

975
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: three point eighty six ERA. And you know that pitching

976
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: staff is strong.

977
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 5: It is strong. It is strong. What it is not

978
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 5: is healthy. I mean, if those guys would stay healthy

979
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 5: the entire season, every one of them, Hunter Green missed

980
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: whatever two months, Habitt was out for a little bit,

981
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 5: Lodolo had the problem on his on his index finger.

982
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 5: Brady Singer, he was the star because he's the one

983
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 5: that went, you know, the longest, in the deepest, in

984
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 5: every game. You pitched a lot of it and he

985
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 5: didn't miss a start. And those end up, man, when

986
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 5: you're when you're starting pitchers are missing you know, three

987
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 5: or four, five, six starts. That's a lot considering you're

988
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 5: only you know, if you're if you're healthy the whole season,

989
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: you're only throwing thirty two games anyway, So I mean,

990
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 5: you know, you knocked that number down by five or

991
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 5: six and that hurts the team. And I think that

992
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 5: was part of it. I really do.

993
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the blogs are real busy.

994
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 6: Uh.

995
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: Francona has taken some hits by using lodolo in relief

996
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday, So I guess that would have eliminated him

997
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: as being the starter in game two. I mean, does

998
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: that make any sense to you? And I have no

999
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: complaints about.

1000
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 6: Now I have.

1001
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 5: I have no complaints either, because you have to win

1002
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 5: the game Sunday. You know you you worry about tomorrow tomorrow.

1003
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 5: You don't worry about tomorrow today if you have to

1004
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 5: win this game. So I have no complaints with that.

1005
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 5: I mean I've heard something where why didn't he keep

1006
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 5: lodolo in and at Uh? I can't remember first or

1007
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 5: second game when and he was pitching, well well, I

1008
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 5: mean he pitched the day before, so maybe that are

1009
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 5: two days before. Maybe that's the reason I can tell

1010
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 5: you this. I'm not questioning uh every move Hanry Francona.

1011
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 3: Uh pass.

1012
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 5: The guy has two World Series rings on for a reason.

1013
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 5: You know there there is, So I'm not going to

1014
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 5: nitpick on every one thing.

1015
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 3: You know.

1016
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 5: The bottom line to all this Reds need better players, Mike,

1017
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 5: They need better players, especially offensively.

1018
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

1019
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 5: If you if you want to compete. You saw how

1020
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 5: deep uh the uh Dodgers are. Now they're never going

1021
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 5: to get that deep because they don't have that kind

1022
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 5: of money. But boy, you got to have some depth,

1023
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: and you got to have some guys that can that

1024
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 5: can hit the balls. And the one home run or

1025
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 5: the home runs that you mentioned twenty first, twenty first

1026
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 5: out of thirty teams in the Great American Ballpark, that's

1027
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 5: that's sinful. You got to be better than that, exactly,

1028
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 5: have to. They have got somebody that can put the

1029
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 5: ball over the fence.

1030
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: And we've talked about that odd infin item.

1031
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you see this team doing over

1032
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: the break before we go back on opening Day?

1033
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Is there anyone out there?

1034
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh?

1035
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 5: I think there's people out there. I mean, I think

1036
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 5: you can get some of those maybe some of those

1037
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 5: young hairs. If you look at like the the the Athletics. Boy,

1038
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 5: they got some nice young bats on that team, and

1039
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 5: they could use some pitching. And you know you're going

1040
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 5: to have to. It's the old saying you got to

1041
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 5: give up something to get something, and I am. I

1042
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 5: am fine with them trading one of the starters. I mean,

1043
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: my guess is it's I would probably Hunter Green. He's

1044
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 5: probably gonna bring you the most, So do you do

1045
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 5: that maybe.

1046
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if you can get enough for him. I

1047
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: hate to see him go.

1048
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: He seems like a real fine young man and he's

1049
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: got a hell of a future, I think, despite what

1050
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: we saw in the playoffs.

1051
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: But you got to give up quality to get quality.

1052
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 5: There's no question. And I think that that has to

1053
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 5: happen with this team. And uh, you know you're gonna

1054
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 5: You're probably gonna lose Nick Martinez, he's one of them.

1055
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 5: I think Lattel is probably a free agent as well.

1056
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 5: So you're gonna are going to lose some starters in there,

1057
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 5: and then you got a factor in the injuries. I mean,

1058
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 5: I know we talked about it when Abbott struggled in

1059
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 5: the second half, when Lott Dola was down. You really

1060
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 5: you can't have enough starting pitching. So maybe they think otherwise,

1061
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 5: Maybe they think they can't afford to get rid of

1062
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 5: Hunter Green or one of the other starters. But I mean,

1063
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 5: you've got to score some You can't win if you

1064
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 5: don't score rounds, and this team has to have some power.

1065
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: You know.

1066
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of the blogs too, there's one from my think Thursday.

1067
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: It is in the blog red Machine Drew Cook six

1068
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: Reds players who definitely won't be back in twenty twenty six,

1069
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: and he lists, let's see, I want to make sure

1070
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: I get it right here. He lists Nick Martinez is one,

1071
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: Santiago Espinal, Zach Lttel. Who are the other ones here?

1072
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: Sam Maul, Austin Hayes, and Wade Miley. Your thoughts on that? Yeah,

1073
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: do you see those guys going?

1074
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 5: I think that. I think that's fairly accurate. Wade Miley

1075
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 5: may stick around, you know, that might be a mutual

1076
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 5: thing because the Reds did give him a chance to

1077
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 5: come back and gave him a second life, and you know,

1078
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 5: sat through his Tommy John surgery that he had as

1079
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 5: a brewer, so that he may be around. I'm not

1080
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 5: sure about that. The other ones. For sure, Martinez is gone.

1081
00:59:55,240 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 5: I think Amelia Pagan is gone. Oh personal, and because

1082
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 5: I I'm not sure his contracts that is. But I

1083
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 5: think he is a free agent. I think he might

1084
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 5: be one of them that is out of here. Now.

1085
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 5: We'll we'll wait and see. We'll know soon enough. I mean,

1086
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 5: it's not going to be very you know, a long

1087
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 5: way off, and they know what's going to happen, and

1088
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 5: I and I would hope that they make some of

1089
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 5: these deals. If they're going to go out and try

1090
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 5: to get a bat day, you know, it's not the

1091
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 5: last minute thing that when they get down there for

1092
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 5: the general managers meetings whenever that is in early December.

1093
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 5: I guess I think you go and go down there

1094
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 5: and make some moves. And I also think that Terry

1095
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: Francine is going to have a bit have a big

1096
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 5: hand and a big say and what they do in

1097
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 5: the off season, because you know, he's seen this team

1098
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 5: now for a year. You see him turned the course

1099
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 5: of his season kind of molded into what he wants,

1100
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 5: and I think that's just going to continue.

1101
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're crazy if they don't get his

1102
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: input into all that stuff. I mean, if you're looking

1103
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: for bright spots, and I think there were a lot

1104
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: of them this year, him being at the Helm is

1105
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: probably the biggest one. I you know, I'm not smart

1106
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: enough to guess second guess him on calls. I would

1107
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: never do that, but sure seems like he had the

1108
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: pieces put together the right way, don't you.

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01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 5: Think, Oh I do during the course of the year.

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01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 5: I mean, he made so many moves that, you know,

1111
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 5: during this little things, but you know, you know, he

1112
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 5: started the season with Matt McClean batting up in the order.

1113
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 5: Towards the end of the year, he was batting ninth.

1114
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 5: He finally moved Ellie Daily Cruise out of that third

1115
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 5: spot in new order, and I think, I mean, maybe

1116
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 5: you can say he should have done that sooner. Well,

1117
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 5: maybe he should have, maybe he shouldn't have. I mean,

1118
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 5: Ellie data Cruz is still a really good baseball player,

1119
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 5: but I think little things like that, and once he's

1120
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 5: you know, you got the trades that were made were

1121
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 5: good trades. Key Brian Hayes at third base, you start

1122
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 5: little five things a little bit.

1123
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Speaker 3: You know.

1124
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 5: I think they're still going to figure out what they're

1125
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 5: going to do with South Stewart. Where is he going

1126
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 5: to play? Because quite frankly, he's a liability defensively at

1127
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 5: third base? So does he play first? When you got

1128
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 5: Spencer steer over at first base, who, if they were

1129
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 5: being honest, should win the Gold Glove at first base.

1130
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 5: I don't think he will, but that's how well he

1131
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 5: played there. So do you take him off that and

1132
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 5: put him in the outfield? Just a lot of maneuvering

1133
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 5: that has to go on during this off t season.

1134
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 5: But the one thing with Francona, see likes guys that

1135
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 5: can play everywhere. I don't know that I'm a great

1136
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 5: big fan of that, but it seems to work. So

1137
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 5: that's the way the game is gone. And with Spencer Steer,

1138
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 5: that's what you have. You can put him pretty much

1139
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 5: any place you need.

1140
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: Him, you know.

1141
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of defensive problems, Elie de la Cruz, I mean,

1142
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: what does he do over the offseason to improve with fielding?

1143
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: Because I didn't check, but I think the last time

1144
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: you and I spoke, he had the most errors of

1145
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: anyone in Major League Baseball.

1146
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: What do they do? And I love the guy, I

1147
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: love him, I love watching.

1148
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: Him, but he's got I get he's got to get

1149
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: better defensively.

1150
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 5: Well, my opinion is come opening Day he's going to

1151
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 5: be in center field. Really, I really think that. I

1152
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 5: think it's I mean, you can put up when I've

1153
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 5: heard the argument after last season, well, Barry Larkin led

1154
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 5: the league, and Harris his first season, well he didn't

1155
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 5: in season number two, and Ellie did, I think it's

1156
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 5: time to move him off a shortstop. Look what it.

1157
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 5: It did wonders for Noelvi Martiete when they moved him

1158
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 5: off a third base and put him in the ray field,

1159
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 5: because his mind was freed up. He didn't have to

1160
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 5: worry about playing third base, and he goes out to

1161
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 5: right field and he's starting now. He slumped a little

1162
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 5: bit towards the end. I get that, but for the

1163
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 5: most part, he pitched, played really well and hit really

1164
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 5: well once they moved into the ray field. And I

1165
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 5: think that can be the same case with Ellie day

1166
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 5: La Cruz. I Mean, the one thing I worry about

1167
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 5: him is he plays so hard. I don't want him

1168
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 5: banging into the wall every other night, you know, and

1169
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 5: and hurting himself. So but I think you have to

1170
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 5: make that move. But defensively, I really do.

1171
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1172
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just way too many errors, and you know,

1173
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: you could tell just by looking at him they definitely

1174
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: got to him too. So I mean, I hope that's

1175
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: something that they can work on over the off season.

1176
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: Last question, you had this year team record eighty three

1177
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: seventy nine, fourteen games behind Milwaukee. Was it what you

1178
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: thought it would be better, worse?

1179
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: Or where do you come down on that.

1180
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 5: About the same when the season started. I thought eighty five,

1181
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: so eighty three they were close, and you give her

1182
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 5: you know, you can swing either way on that because

1183
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 5: you get lucky a couple of games and maybe you

1184
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 5: have those eighty five wins. So I think they were

1185
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 5: right about where everybody thought they would be, you know,

1186
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 5: in the division. I didn't think anybody think the Brewers

1187
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 5: would take off the way they took. Oh, I know,

1188
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 5: you know, you know, you just give it another year,

1189
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 5: and I think you can. I mean, I think you

1190
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 5: need to. I think this team needs to shoot for

1191
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 5: you know, eighty five wins won't be acceptable next year.

1192
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 5: I think you need eighty eight to ninety to make

1193
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 5: the postseason. And I think that's what they have to.

1194
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 5: They have to gear everything toward well.

1195
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: And you know, they kind of spoiled us with the

1196
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: eighty three and seventy nine. I didn't think they'd do

1197
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: that well, but obviously they did well. I'll tell you what.

1198
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: It's not that far away from opening day.

1199
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 2: It's uh.

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: They open with Boston on March twenty sixth, so we

1201
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: don't have too long to go, and.

1202
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: You'll probably be going down in Florida, all right, excuse

1203
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: me Arizona.

1204
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the first spring training game is normally

1205
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 5: the third Saturday in or yeah, February, so around the

1206
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 5: twentieth something like that will be the first spring training game.

1207
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 5: And since it's and I'm almost guaranteed it's going to

1208
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 5: be against the Guardians, since that's the first game they

1209
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 5: play every year for the past sixteen years.

1210
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, they share that they shared.

1211
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 5: Conn Day in February. Will be there and you'll hear

1212
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 5: it live and you'll probably maybe s work over some

1213
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 5: money and come down there too.

1214
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: I knew that was coming.

1215
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 6: It's funny that you've been at someplace.

1216
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm kind of thinking about it.

1217
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: Hey, you, I really appreciate all of your help and

1218
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: your wisdom over this past year and looking forward to

1219
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: talking to you again next year.

1220
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 5: I don't know how much wisdom there was, but I

1221
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 5: appreciate it. I love doing it, Mike. So we'll talk

1222
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 5: to you in February.

1223
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: Sounds good, buddy, Thank you.

1224
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: All right, David d Armbrus, you're on our Cincinnati Reds.

1225
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. I probably went to more games,

1226
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: and yes, yet I paid for most of them. I

1227
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: went to more games this year than I think I

1228
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: have since the Big Red Machine days. It's a fun

1229
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: ball team to watch, it really is, and the ambiance

1230
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere at Great American Ballpark it's hard to

1231
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: find anything that's better than that. So as far as

1232
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, very successful season, but as you had said,

1233
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: looking for more next year. Hey, I'm out of time,

1234
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: so I am out of here. Mike Allen seven hundred

1235
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: WLW